D League

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The Southern Districts Basketball Association will be establishing a second women’s team this year to support the SEABL program.

Head coach will be Steve Lennon and he is requesting athletes, coaching staff and supporters interested in the team attend a planning work shop this Wednesday at 7:30pm at the stadium. We will use Spartans room.

If we do not get enough interest the plane for the team will be scrapped so do not leave it up to someone else to be there.

Things to be discussed are :-

1. Competition. Will we play GBL which is mid week or D League which will be played on week-ends.
2. Training
3. Team commitments
4. Team goals.
5. Other issues which may arise.

Remember if we do not get a good attendance then again we will not have a team. It is up to you the athletes and others to make this happen.

Management
SDBAL

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Apologies but that should read the 13th February for meeting, not this week.

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So how are teams shaping up for D -League so far? Is it going to be teams similar to last year or is there a few players playing elsewhere...who will the favorites be?

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keen to hear a bit of chat about dleague this year...
whos hot and whos not?

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Looking a bit stronger than last year a few ex qabl players choosing to play. Be more competitive at least.

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any names?

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not sure but team list is posted on QABL website

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Any chance of news about the Tropical Youth League going in here or a new thread? Would be interesting to hear how the northern young men and women are going.

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any results from dleague's weekend?
i know ipswich got over toowoomba by about 10

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suns over mdore by 38 in the men

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Coast beat Brissy by 30 odd , Brissy with a very young team in it for first 2 quarters but were always under maned. Strange to look at both teams with the youngest player for Coast older than all of Brissy.

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names of who did and didnt play? Brisbane look fairly unstopable on paper?? Its a shame teams will win and lose games depending on where the first team plays..

Coast beat Brissy by 30 odd , Brissy with a very young team in it for first 2 quarters but were always under maned. Strange to look at both teams with the youngest player for Coast older than all of Brissy.

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Gold Coast beat Northside on the sunday by 4 in the men, was a good game, both teams fairly evenly matched, Dave Lydiard got into abit of foul trouble, but managed to stay in the game, Gold Coast looks fairly strong again, but Northside will shake afew teams up

South West beat Logan by about 20 in the end. Southwest running a very young team, i saw most of them up at U/18 classics, very disiplined team, runs a great press and will all game, Logan played a rather big, fairly mature team, but not finding a way to match the enthusiasm of South West. Was quite even for most of the game, but South West ran out the final quarter.

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Up north the comp is very one side and only 4 teams this year.. Townsville are the favourite and havent lost a game in 2 years but due to the new rule, many players arent allowed to play for them. Chris Cedar, Mitch Boyce, Max Murray and Steve Costanzo are playing for tville, Mackay have Josh Jenkins and Jake Patterson would be better if Blanchfield played and most the under 18's team. Cairns are always tough with George Coe, James Comino, Chris Whelan and Michael Chittman.. The other team is Mulgrave with some alright players but not that competitive.. From what i heard Mackay lost both games this weekend to Cairns by 3 and Townsville by 30 or so..

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Up north the comp is very one side and only 4 teams this year.. Townsville are the favourite and havent lost a game in 2 years but due to the new rule, many players arent allowed to play for them. Chris Cedar, Mitch Boyce, Max Murray and Steve Costanzo are playing for tville, Mackay have Josh Jenkins and Jake Patterson would be better if Blanchfield played and most the under 18's team. Cairns are always tough with George Coe, James Comino, Chris Whelan and Michael Chittman.. The other team is Mulgrave with some alright players but not that competitive.. From what i heard Mackay lost both games this weekend to Cairns by 3 and Townsville by 30 or so..

What are the new rules and are team lists available anywhere?

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Gold Coast beat Northside on the sunday by 4 in the men, was a good game, both teams fairly evenly matched, Dave Lydiard got into abit of foul trouble, but managed to stay in the game, Gold Coast looks fairly strong again, but Northside will shake afew teams up

South West beat Logan by about 20 in the end. Southwest running a very young team, i saw most of them up at U/18 classics, very disiplined team, runs a great press and will all game, Logan played a rather big, fairly mature team, but not finding a way to match the enthusiasm of South West. Was quite even for most of the game, but South West ran out the final quarter.

How do you mean mature for the Logan team? as in the style of play or the age of the team?

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How do you mean mature for the Logan team? as in the style of play or the age of the team?

I mean they were abit older, abit more physical, hopefully further down the track they can play abit more mature... i mean they were fine once they got past the press, used there size to there advantage, but the South West guards set there press to perfection, very disiplined. Logan also put up some ordinary shots up early in the shot clock, but looking at the way they played they should gain from this, and like last year finish strongly. From what i have seen and heard Gold Coast are the team to beat.

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gold coast beat runaway bay by 4 points in a pretty close game, bay were up by 10 at half time. gold coast just slowly got ahead and managed to keep bay from scoring in the final minutes.

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another solid win for ippy force on the weekend. logan played well first half but couldnt manage to finish the job. ippy up by ten for their second win

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Suns beat Goldie by 22 at goldie..was 32 at one stage..suns played well, waves didnt. Great team work from the suns with not much from any of the gold coast team.

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Goldy have been looking good what gives.

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Goldy were missing their coach, and it looked like the coach they had on their bench, who I'm assuming is their assistant, had no real idea of what was going on.....didn't call one time out that I saw. Gold Coast have a talented squad, just need to pick it up. Suns shot unbelievable most of the game....couldn't really miss. Look for Waves to turn it around next week.

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Goldy were missing their coach, and it looked like the coach they had on their bench, who I'm assuming is their assistant, had no real idea of what was going on.....didn't call one time out that I saw. .
Lachlan Miller scored 25 in D League (with sprained wrist) after 6 rbds and 2 pts in QABL against Rocky the night before. Top point scorer and rebounder of the U/18 Classics. State coach doesnt rate him. Maybe it wasnt the assistant you were watching ?

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Goldy smashed Neers by 40 had a new coach and a couple different players, they sure looked good.

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Goldie up by 20 V Ippy always looked to strong but had to put in hard to pull away. Ippy got some good young players but Goldie to strong across the court. Two gaurds for Goldie had big games.

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who were the guards that played well for goldy i just saw a good team effort and only one of the guards benny i think it was had a good game and ty davidson have a dominant game other then that eveyone else had a mediocre game

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ippy were without three of their better players with injury and aba
could have been a very different game

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Ippy will come back to reality..havnt played the bay or the suns yet...goldie was just the first of the top 3..In saying that tho who knows who will be playing due to other commitments and also qabl commitments...dont see Ippy being there at thend of the season tho..Should be Brisbane, Runaway Bay, Caboolture and Gold Coast. Thoughts??

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brisbane... not too sure about them
i suppose like any team it will depend on who they have available

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Toowoomba V Northside / Northside by 10
Maroochydoore V Logan / Maroochydoore by 8
South West V Gold Coast / Gold Coast by 20 odd
Runaway Bay V Ipswich / Runaway Bay by 15 - 20
Caboolture V Logan / Caboolture by 8 - 10
Northside V Ipswich / Northside by 10
Brisbane V Gold Coast / Gold Coast by 8

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Toowoomba V Northside / Northside by 7
Maroochydoore V Logan / Maroochydore by 15
South West V Gold Coast / Gold Coast by 9
Runaway Bay V Ipswich / Runaway Bay by 22
Caboolture V Logan / Caboolture by 18
Northside V Ipswich / Ipswich by 1
Brisbane V Gold Coast / Gold Coast by 3

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Brisbane ABA are on a road trip this weekend so will have none of their players. Gold Coast by 50 odd

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Ipswich V South West / Ipswich by 6
Logan V Northside / Northside by 4
Toowoomba V Gold Coast / Gold Coast by 20
Northside v Caboolture / Caboolture by 20
Brisbane v Ippswich / Depends on who plays for brissy if they have a team Brisbane by 20 if not Ipswich by 10
Maroochydoore v Toowoomba / Maroochydoore by 8
Runaway Bay v South West / Runaway bay 20

Any thoughts?????

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Does anyone know who number 4 from the South West Metro D-League mens team?

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Go Ipswich D league girls. The combination of youth and experience is working well!!!!

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does anyone know what happened to runaway bay? how did they lose to South West? Richards with only 14 or something?? What happened?

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Toowoomba not gettin any luv....ppl tip them to lose to Northside and Clipper but where able to come up with wins....they could be the dark horse come end of the season

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I mean they were abit older, abit more physical, hopefully further down the track they can play abit more mature... i mean they were fine once they got past the press, used there size to there advantage, but the South West guards set there press to perfection, very disiplined. Logan also put up some ordinary shots up early in the shot clock, but looking at the way they played they should gain from this, and like last year finish strongly. From what i have seen and heard Gold Coast are the team to beat.

A Bit? 2 U16 players, 2 U 18 players, Heck they younger than any other team

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Northside V Maroochydore Maroochydore by 10
Toowoomba V Caboolture Caboolture by 8
Gold Coast V South West Gold Coast By 6
Runaway Bay V Brisbane Runaway bay by 8
South West V Toowooomba south west by 6
Brisbane V Logan brisbane by 6

Any thoughts!!!

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With The D League introducing a MVP voting system this year who are the faviorates for taking it out?

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I got
Northside V Maroochydore Maroochydore by 8
Toowoomba V Caboolture Caboulture by 15-20
Gold Coast V South West Coast by 15-20
Runaway Bay V Brisbane Bay by 10-15
South West V Toowooomba South West by 1 (at southwest right??)
Brisbane V Logan Brisbane by 10

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cmon guys lets get some updates from the games coming...

Only one I know is Toowoomba down by about 25 to Suns..Toowoomba weakish defense and there press was easily broken down by the point guard...Zone wasnt too strong either but Piok hit a few bombs from wayyy out!!

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Wizards got their second win with a win over maroocydore by bout 3-5 i think.

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Goldy over SW by 40 game over by quarter time with goldy up by 20. Few cheap shots getting thrown around kept it interesting but gold coast to strong all over the court . Cant see any goldy boys winning MVP to even they will take votes off each other.

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ipswich coming off the bye now have their full quota of players...
might look good for a few more wins now

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Who's got who winning this weekend come give the D League some love pretty close comp in the top 4 or 5...

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i wish that aba coaches didn't take away players from their d league team to have them just sit on the bench and leave their d league team with no players and have them struggle and lose their strong hold on a certain top 2 position. this now is in jeopardy which is so unfair on all the girls as they worked very hard to get where they are and now and with selfishness on the aba coaches behalf this has now been taken away from them. just one more point why does a certain player who all she does hold onto the ball un no ontil the shot clock has run down to just a few seconds then pass the ball and when they don't score she has a go at them. wake up coaches and stop giving her court time as she unfit (fat) too slow and a complete ball hog and wouldn't know what it is like to be a team player plus the fact no one likes her. do the team a favour and step aside for the TEAMS sake

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I thought ABA was more important than D League, and that D League was a feeder program of sorts to the ABA.

Now I realise its all about D League. Hopefully your ABA coaches and your association realises this too.

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I thought ABA was more important than D League, and that D League was a feeder program of sorts to the ABA.

Now I realise its all about D League. Hopefully your ABA coaches and your association realises this too.

Yeah, that's how it works as far as I know. If affects everyone at different times so I think it evens out over the season. As for just sitting on the bench in QABL, well, I'd assume the players can learn a lot from that. You hear the advice and input of different coaches at time-outs etc and you can talk to more senior players on the bench to learn more about the game.

That's the way it works.

As for attacking an individual player, well I have no idea who you are talking about, or which team you're talking about. Its up to the coach to sort that out and criticising someone like that on the internet is poor form. Deal with it in-house. Berating someone on a web site won't achieve anything

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all i was trying to say was that if they don't look after some of these players in the d league there will be no players left to play aba and especially when young girls leave the sport very disappointed and frustrated with coaches and associations. can't there be some sort of compromise here to keep these girls in the game. as for critisicing a particular player i will not take back what i said because it is how the d league and aba teams feel. just telling how it is.

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[QUOTE=Unregistered;7133]Yeah, that's how it works as far as I know. If affects everyone at different times so I think it evens out over the season. As for just sitting on the bench in QABL, well, I'd assume the players can learn a lot from that. You hear the advice and input of different coaches at time-outs etc and you can talk to more senior players on the bench to learn more about the game.

That's the way it works.

well that shouldnt effect d league unless the aba team is away on a double header and just needs to complete the bench.

this statement says to me that teams talked about like like this are 6 or 7 deep and rather than develop the bench the stars are being played and the bench sits there of course thsy are going to screw up especaly if they have been put in that position by a superstars coach.

d league = devolepment use the whole team even when the stars are there the first 30 mins are a lot of time to rotate players.

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Toowoomba V Logan - Toowooba by 4
South West V Northside - South West by 10
Ipswich V Caboolture - Caboolture By 15
Maroochy V Brisbane - Brisbane By 8
Gold Coast V Runaway Bay - Runaway Bay 10

Any thoughts??????????

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Suns up by 6 in a close one

Ippy played tough with what looked like an extremley young team...played tough but suns with a lil more experience down the stretch to pull the win out

Should be interesting next week when they play again (I think :S:S:S)

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Runnaway Bay had the coast covered the whole game ,the score flattered GC a bit. Great guard and better big men. If thats the best the Coast has got they won't be a danger in the finals.Some of their subing was weird but full credit to the Seahawks they are looking good.

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Runnaway Bay had the coast covered the whole game ,the score flattered GC a bit. Great guard and better big men. If thats the best the Coast has got they won't be a danger in the finals.Some of their subing was weird but full credit to the Seahawks they are looking good.

Sounds like you think you have won it??? If GC cant challeng who do u expect to?? You guy dealt with Suns fairly well both times according to the scores..and i wouldnt expect Ippy, Briso, or Mdore to come close..unless Brisbane decide to let the ABA guys play..Personally think GC and Suns can come close but as of now yeh ur porlby right in saying the bay is the favorite..although i woulda said GC if the result went the other way last week...

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But the ever amazing Gold Coast just keep finding ways to win!
This weeks Womens D League they have Maroochydores D League women (half the ABA team) scheduled to play at exactly the same time as the ABA women on the opposite side of town. Very impressive, surprised the Emu isnt crowing about it.

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heard mdore went 1 - 1 in d league today..girls win and guys lose.

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With 1 week to go in round games who has who winning this weekend and who thinks who will be in the finals and make it right through to the grand finnal?

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top four will be:

runaway bay
gold coast
caboolture
ipswich

i think if cab and ips can field full strength teams (given that boys who play aba will be in caboolture that weekend squaring off), the teams from down the coast could find themselves in a bit of trouble...

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Well no supries on the top 4

Who has who winning the first round of finals

Gold Coast v Ipswich

Runaway Bay v Caboolture

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A few weeks back i would have put Runaway bay and Goldcoast as sure things but now i'm not so sure.

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I think Suns may have the edge in this one. With pretty much all there top 6 close to avg. double figures i think that they have the better alround game.

Runaway are strong and have a massive squad, but unless Richards catches fire (which he's pretty much done all season) this game could be much closer than some people think. And the hopes of an all Gold Coast final could be changed.

Suns by 6 in a nail bighter

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I think Suns may have the edge in this one. With pretty much all there top 6 close to avg. double figures i think that they have the better alround game.

Runaway are strong and have a massive squad, but unless Richards catches fire (which he's pretty much done all season) this game could be much closer than some people think. And the hopes of an all Gold Coast final could be changed.

Suns by 6 in a nail bighter



Look for Hayden Reed to be matching up Against Richards too....should be a good battle

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Go Suns Men And Women For Finals!! Woo!!

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Who is Hayden Reed?? Why do they call him Lloydd.?????

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Tips for the weekend:

Goldie to beat Ipswich.

Gold Coast just has too many weapons for ipswich to handle and their defence is possibly the best in the competition. With ty on the inside ipswich wont be able to pound it in with as great results as they have seen all season.

Look for copeland to try and keep ippy in this one but once goldie makes the switch and puts shepherd on copeland it will be much tougher for him and could mean the end of ipswich.

Close game for 3 quarters with goldie pushing the gap out to around 10-15 and cruising the rest of the 4th.

Suns over Runaway Bay.

Runaway has a great combo in Richards and mills and it will be up to those two to try and beat the run and gun, team oriented style of ball the suns have played all season. Will be a close one and alot will come down to how well the suns play on richards and if they can stop mills getting the others involved. Big size advantage to the bay (from what ive seen suns are small?)

Will be a close game but i think that the suns with their balance on offence and scrappy defence close this one out in a very close one. Suns by less than 5.

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Who is Hayden Reed?? Why do they call him Lloydd.?????

Is it just one person continually asking who Hayden is, or is it multiple people? I think the answer has been given previously, how about going out to a suns game and watching it, then you'll know who Hayden is.

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sun's win by 21. Runaway with only 6 in the first quarter. Sun's played best game i've seen for them. Looks like the final will be good

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Bay had a shocking first quarter, gave the suns a 20 point lead going into the first break. Pretty much went basket for basket after that, suns defence too good didnt let them build up any momentum. Refs made some bad calls, but they didnt deserve the amount of crap the bay bench gave em either. Bay couldve killed them if they used the post, they had the height advantage with some big boys on the bench, but they kept going for long bombs and pressure jump shots that just werent going in.

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a big congrats to coastal suns d league and former aba player and junior coach alicia turner announced that her and her husband joel are expecting their first child in february.alicia was a very tough defender who gave her all on and off the court and was very well respected by her team mates. we wish alicia and joel all the very best for there new role role as parents and hope to see you back at the basketball very soon.

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Who will win??????????????????

Gold Coast V Caboolture

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Where is the final being played?

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Gold Coast!!!! not sure which stadium though

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Caboolture in a close by less than 7

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Gold Coast!!!! not sure which stadium though

Coast finished higher, so they get the home final I beleive?

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Yeah coast finnished higher so thye do get the final at home but yeah not sure which stadium thye will play it at???????

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Grand Final is being played at TSS at 6pm on Saturday night!!!!

Gold Coast V Caboolture

Who will win do you think?????????????????/

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Grand Final is being played at TSS at 6pm on Saturday night!!!!

Gold Coast V Caboolture

Who will win do you think?????????????????/


CABOOLTURE... GO BOYS, DO US PROUD...
Will be a great game...

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FEEL THE HEAT!!!!!

Caboolture by 10

Go SUNS!!!!

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Great game for the final last night.Goldy jumped away to a16 point lead at quarter time on the back of some great shooting from their point Benny but Suns showed great heart in the second to be within 2 at the half.Goldy's height and strength started to show in the 3rd and kicked to a14 point lead which they held and run out by 20. For a young team the Suns never gave up and the score didn't reflect how close it was.For the Coast an all round team effort with the scoring with Benny leading the way.Every time a Suns player started to score Brent seemed to be given the job of shuting him down.Suns showed the talent and youth to be a force from now on,a mention for David L who had a great finals and picked up player of the finals.

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Great job by 'Bradman' Sheppard and the Coast guys to take this out. Resilience and application in the face of all the other things that can occupy the psyche of guys in this age group won out. (Plus the fact they can play!)
What's the general feeling on the way forward for this division in Mens and Womens to benchmark it as the high quality important league it should rightfully be?
Could there be a rethink on scheduling to allow the better guys serving apprenticeships with their ABA teams to be able to compete every week? I know first hand of potential major sponsors keen to have their branding associated with the 18-23 youth market who are adopting the wait and see approach to how and where the league progresses before committing. Sure Netball is the sponsors dream package right now but their one gender factor leaves basketball still ahead with a chance.
Perhaps a Committe of experienced Association heads independant of BQ to set up and administer the league as a user friendly and attractive proposition for post adolescent athletes?

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unfortunatly i saw the game and had no part in the win. all he did was stand on the court and pass the ball. the real players were benny there point guard he successfully kept the big 20 point buffer for gold coast through his determination and shooting ability. another mention goes to number 13 david he won the award for mvp of the finals and as always worked hard from the first whistle to the last. in my honest opinion the team would have been better off the keep brent out of the starting line up and put brett in. as soon as brett came on the court he made an impact and also has a better ability then brent to shoot and attack the basket. bigger threat better defender really a no brainer in my book.

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What's the general feeling on the way forward for this division in Mens and Womens to benchmark it as the high quality important league it should rightfully be?

The issue is that it is nowhere near any standard of greatness to begin with, and the structure needs a total overhaul.

Open the competition up to all ages, and let it be a true 'reserve' grade to the QABL. Kids playing kids is something we can watch at Classics and Premier League, let them test their mettle against the bigger boys.

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what rock have you been hiding under the competition was called under 23's then was renamed to development league. throught the league this year there was many teams with more than there fair share of older players playing. prime example gold coast one of the youngest was brad who was 16 and then brent 18 then the ages went up from there.

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Funny starting 5 up by 18 changes made back to even, lucky you were only watching not coaching.They already had plenty of shooters on the court,i always thought that help D blocking out and assists were part of the game.Apparently Not.I thought they had a good balance , including the bench this is why its a team game.

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The issue is that it is nowhere near any standard of greatness to begin with, and the structure needs a total overhaul.

Open the competition up to all ages, and let it be a true 'reserve' grade to the QABL. Kids playing kids is something we can watch at Classics and Premier League, let them test their mettle against the bigger boys.
Its not reached its potential as yet thats for sure. I think managing the league to make it accessible to all players in the general age group would be a good step in the right direction. If the likes of Teys, Massey, Phillips, Bairstow, Olah, Kenny etc etc were available every week and the League grew some profile (i.e. sponsorship, jobs, Uni fees and the like) then 'greatness' could be just around the corner. Was anybody excluded this year on the basis of age? I think the problem criteria is availability isnt it?

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unfortunatly i saw the game and had no part in the win. .
Well thats pretty obvious! So why do you feel you can bag one of the players who DID have a part in the win? Funny thing about Brent Sheppard but...for all his "just standing around passing the ball" there's an uncanny coincidence that the teams he just stands around passing the ball for, seem to win big basketball games! Good job Coast.

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Its not reached its potential as yet thats for sure. I think managing the league to make it accessible to all players in the general age group would be a good step in the right direction. If the likes of Teys, Massey, Phillips, Bairstow, Olah, Kenny etc etc were available every week and the League grew some profile (i.e. sponsorship, jobs, Uni fees and the like) then 'greatness' could be just around the corner. Was anybody excluded this year on the basis of age? I think the problem criteria is availability isnt it?

1. Why would you even consider Teys, Massey, Phillips etc for a second-tier competition when they are more than capable of playing solid first grade minutes? Heck an argument could be made for Teys being the best player on South West's roster. The fact is this standard of young talent will never be playing second-tier ball.

2. Yes, players are excluded on age. Only a certain number (2?) of 'over-agers' can play. Certainly doesn't add much to the standard of play. There is a STACK of mature talent at centres like Maroochy, Brisbane, Northside and Gold Coast who can all contribute to improve the talent pool if given the opportunity.

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ok so moving on from this who will win the game gold coast vs. towny should be a close one any opinions

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ok so moving on from this who will win the game gold coast vs. towny should be a close one any opinions

towny in a close one...well rounded team...anyone know what stadium its being played at??

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towny will get this one.. unless vanderjagt has already gone back to the states but still think they will be to strong with Reece, Heuir and tudehope..

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1. Why would you even consider Teys, Massey, Phillips etc for a second-tier competition when they are more than capable of playing solid first grade minutes? Heck an argument could be made for Teys being the best player on South West's roster. The fact is this standard of young talent will never be playing second-tier ball.

2. Yes, players are excluded on age. Only a certain number (2?) of 'over-agers' can play. Certainly doesn't add much to the standard of play. There is a STACK of mature talent at centres like Maroochy, Brisbane, Northside and Gold Coast who can all contribute to improve the talent pool if given the opportunity.
Apologies. Different perspectives here bloke. The business model and sponsorship proposal I saw had nothing to do with a second tier competition in Qld. More to do with a National Youth League capitalising on the popularity and likely Australian EMU's prominence in the World Youth Championships next year. This proposal to B.A. and the A.B.A. involves major brewing $$$, NCAA sanction and TV coverage. The likes of Teys/Massey/Phillips and all young players of the appropriate standard would be frothing to play in it though it doesnt really cater to post 23y.o.'s who havent made ABA standard yet or are on their way back down. Those older guys with proper experience would be sought after as coaches to pass their experience along. Mature talent simply wouldnt cut it at this level as players.

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Havent seen the townie side but have watched Heuir play and the kids got game,should be some good match ups.Still think Goldie at home will be to strong,to much depth.

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damon will do nothing against gold coast. i was at the school boys championship last year and saw him get shut down by brent and didnt do anything.

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damon will do nothing against gold coast. i was at the school boys championship last year and saw him get shut down by brent and didnt do anything.

damon did'nt play enough games, none infact so he aint playing...although his older bro jared is.

damon can hoop tho...saying he would'nt do anything is plain silly!...the kid is only 17 and he would be a starter in the towny team.

towny in a close one.

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nah damon heuir is no good he only was top scorer and assists leader at the nationals this year. also was the top rebounding gaurd with like 6 boards a game. since wen does school basketball rate a mention??? the most unorganised and pathetic level of basketball in the world.. how many kids u see make nbl by just playing school basketball?? none... the classics and nationals is where it counts and damon lead scoring at both.. i think someone needs to get their facts straight wen saying he would do nothing if he played...

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nah damon heuir is no good he only was top scorer and assists leader at the nationals this year. also was the top rebounding gaurd with like 6 boards a game. since wen does school basketball rate a mention??? the most unorganised and pathetic level of basketball in the world.. how many kids u see make nbl by just playing school basketball?? none... the classics and nationals is where it counts and damon lead scoring at both.. i think someone needs to get their facts straight wen saying he would do nothing if he played...

Mate whole heartdly agree with your sentiments about school ball.

Heuir is class and has improved tremendously. He did in fact avg 6 rebounds and lead the assit total at nationals. However he was the 3rd highest scorer, not the leading scorer at the Nationals. That honour went to Jason Cadee from NSW Metro, who dropped 38 on the North boys in the bronze medal game to snatch the scoring title from Damo and Luc Simpson from Taz.

You got most of the facts straight except for that little error. Damo is all class and IMO a lock to back up Jorden Page in his hometown at the U/20 nationals in Feb.

[Emu]

The game is being played at Tallebudgera on Saturday 6th at 2.00 pm

Coast by 3!

Ben Harris top scorer and MVP.

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Goldy to strong to many options as long as they play as a team.Not sure who Townie will bring but have seen favs get beaten before.

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All depends on who Townsville send down. The T'ville player who won game MVP against SW in the u23 final two years ago had played less than 5 mins total all season in the D-League side, played all year in the QABL team. He and a few others were allowed to play a minute a game for the 4 games needed to qualify. Was sad to see the regular players who got the job done all season riding the pine in the big one.

A similar stunt here is not beyonf Townsville, if they don't think they can win straight up, better to win another way hey.

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ty will dunk on all 3 , 6'10 fags

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has ty dunked on anyone this year??

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t'ville are shit there is no way they will win gold coast has this one in the bag , gc is 2 fast ,dave,ty,ben.h,brett and brent on at the same time no change

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Big call. Big call.. Why dont u leave all the talk to the game becuase who knows what can happen til then.. but it should be a good game i have seen townie play and i rate them as the best in the state.. GC will put up a fight but wont have enough to sstay with Vanderjagt,Tudehope,Reece and Ferguson..

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t'ville are shit there is no way they will win gold coast has this one in the bag , gc is 2 fast ,dave,ty,ben.h,brett and brent on at the same time no change

in the bag ey! silly comment.

its funny how few people have said GC are givens to win, meanwhile have no idea who townie have.............................................. not smart.

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the whole statement in whihc the person previously was trying to say about gold coast is no matter who towny have. they will always be second best to south queensland. the caliber of players in which south queensland will put on the floor at the start of the game and coming of the bench is a unit in which goes ten deep. where on the other hand with regard to townys team there is a doubtful cloud of non unity with players just sloting into positions "when they are avaliable". bottom line is that it will be a good game however i think with the versitliy of gold coast they will have the edge. with the big men running the floor. only doubt is winning the boards as seeing townsville play they are a HUGE TEAM however are slow so should be interesting to see what the winning margin for gold coast is.

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Wow big call... How many national titles have the south won in the last decade. i beleive none. north BEAT the south in the u18 national final in 2004. south also lost the girls final that year (chock artists wen in the big time 0 from 2). north (Cairns, Rocky in the men and townsville in the women) has won a total of 5 aba national championships. the only title south can claim would be the 2 u20 titles won in the men and women except both teams were dominated by North players with the likes of Michale cedar, Aaron Baynes, Nathan Jawai, steve Weigh and Kerry Williams. so i think North rite now has the dominance over the south wen it comes to national titles. South may produce some good individual players but how many rite now r in the nbl or actually made it. i think rhys martin and brad williamson. should i list the north players.. i think nathan jawai and toronto raptors should be greater then any south player.

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the whole statement in whihc the person previously was trying to say about gold coast is no matter who towny have. they will always be second best to south queensland. the caliber of players in which south queensland will put on the floor at the start of the game and coming of the bench is a unit in which goes ten deep. where on the other hand with regard to townys team there is a doubtful cloud of non unity with players just sloting into positions "when they are avaliable". bottom line is that it will be a good game however i think with the versitliy of gold coast they will have the edge. with the big men running the floor. only doubt is winning the boards as seeing townsville play they are a HUGE TEAM however are slow so should be interesting to see what the winning margin for gold coast is.


1. no matter who towney have - WRONG!
2. always be second best to south queensland - WRONG!
3. why are you referring to GC as south queensland?
4. tville team is'nt that huge. (missin some bigs)
5. Tville bigs are quick and mobile

charlie doyle ball time!

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All hail the spirit and father figure of Basketball in Townsville. Have not heard his name for a while.
You are a legend Charlie!

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the whole statement in whihc the person previously was trying to say about gold coast is no matter who towny have. they will always be second best to south queensland. the caliber of players in which south queensland will put on the floor at the start of the game and coming of the bench is a unit in which goes ten deep. where on the other hand with regard to townys team there is a doubtful cloud of non unity with players just sloting into positions "when they are avaliable". bottom line is that it will be a good game however i think with the versitliy of gold coast they will have the edge. with the big men running the floor. only doubt is winning the boards as seeing townsville play they are a HUGE TEAM however are slow so should be interesting to see what the winning margin for gold coast is.

I'm not involved with either team but I hope Townsville win because of dribble written by the GC people. Making comments like that without having seen Townsville play is just plain dumb. Show a bit of class and a lot of brains or say nothing.

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All hail the spirit and father figure of Basketball in Townsville. Have not heard his name for a while.
You are a legend Charlie!
Was coached by him and I'm 50+!!!
(Didnt like his style at the time but your right...legend!)
South Queensland for all it's resources and geographical advantages for more competition still seems to "slip" once the kids leave U/18 and progress to the Youth and Senior ranks.
I mean they are traditionally stronger U/14's to 18's (geographic advantage/Premier League etc) but once the Northern kids enter the Taipans/Crocs development programs, and the majority of South kids go into a basketball vacuum, the gap widens in the other direction. Imagine the 05 QLD 20's team with a now NBA draftee coming off the bench behind Aaron Baynes and Pat Donald?!! Reece Martin was the starting point with Mick Cedar the SG and Kerrie Williams the rotation for both. Dual Staunton medal winner Stevie Weigh the 3 man. Only one Sth guy in the starters with that successful outfit but the balance looks to have reversed with this years likely squad (on paper anyway)
There's a whole different culture to basketball in the North and there are definately lessons there for the South. Thinking Townsville might just be a bit polished for GC this weekend however GC have a very cohesive outfit capable of great things on their day.

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Wow big call... How many national titles have the south won in the last decade. i beleive none. north BEAT the south in the u18 national final in 2004. south also lost the girls final that year (chock artists wen in the big time 0 from 2). north (Cairns, Rocky in the men and townsville in the women) has won a total of 5 aba national championships. the only title south can claim would be the 2 u20 titles won in the men and women except both teams were dominated by North players with the likes of Michale cedar, Aaron Baynes, Nathan Jawai, steve Weigh and Kerry Williams. so i think North rite now has the dominance over the south wen it comes to national titles. South may produce some good individual players but how many rite now r in the nbl or actually made it. i think rhys martin and brad williamson. should i list the north players.. i think nathan jawai and toronto raptors should be greater then any south player.

According to NBL. Com today, here is the breakdown of "North and South" NBL players

Please note that Weigh and Williams have not played an official NBL game to date.


NORTH SOUTH
Kelvin Robinson John Riley
Mike Cedar Steve Broom
Dwayne Vale Scott Cook
Steve Weigh Rhys Martin
Peter Crawford David Cooper
Kerry Williams Brad Williamson
Greg Vanderjagt Tim Behrendorff,
C J Bruton
Chris Goulding
Cam Tragardh

Bullets won the NBL National Championship in 06/07.

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Bullets Dont Even Exist.. Townsville Also Go Ten Deep.. Probably Even 12 Deep And Will All Be Back Next Year To Do It Again... Charlie Doyle

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According to NBL. Com today, here is the breakdown of "North and South" NBL players

Please note that Weigh and Williams have not played an official NBL game to date.


NORTH SOUTH
Kelvin Robinson John Riley
Mike Cedar Steve Broom
Dwayne Vale Scott Cook
Steve Weigh Rhys Martin
Peter Crawford David Cooper
Kerry Williams Brad Williamson
Greg Vanderjagt Tim Behrendorff,
C J Bruton
Chris Goulding
Cam Tragardh

Bullets won the NBL National Championship in 06/07.

who are the bullet's?

charlie doyle.

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[QUOTE=chock artists wen in the big time 0 from 2. [/QUOTE]

Ouch.

I was a member of the 2004 South mens team and I have to disagree with you when you say we were 'choke artists'. I'm sure if you ask anyone on either team they would tell you it was one of the hardest, most memorable games they have ever been a part of and that the better team won on the day. There is no shame in losing a national final and I proudly display my team photo, silver medal and piece of net (given to me by my best mate, who played for North) in a frame that hangs on my wall.

It was a heart-breaking game to lose, but when we sat down at the end of the game exhausted, and looked around the room at eachother we were all stoked to just have a medal - no matter the colour - hanging around our necks. How often do you get to be second best in the country? Looking at the team on paper, back then we probably should not have been in the top 4, but we worked our bums off to get to the final.

I am glad that it was North Queensland we lost to, I wouldn't want it to be anyone else, and am proud that some of my best mates earnt the right to wear the gold.

Can't we be proud that Queensland managed to get three teams into national finals and congratulate them rather than ripping on them?

I can't wait to play the Townie guys on Saturday. It will be a cracker of a game and a big night of catching up afterwards.

David Lydiard

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Spoken like a true champion,looking forward to the game myself if Townie are as big as they say it will be interesting watching. Goldie has a very mobile team but you cant do much if you dont get the boards.

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its lucky tville wont have steve C, boyce, duncan. 3 of the biggest humans ever lived. (fact)

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Towny 100 GC 78. Guess that puts to bed all the dribble about superior southern basketballers. Southern have quantity and some quality but Northern also have more than their fair share of quality as well. Their were some other serious players that didn't come as well. The guys making the dumb comments about Towny during the last two weeks need to have some respect for Northern players, the whole basketball world doesn't evolve around Sth Qld.

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Seriously, the whole North vs South debate has become quite a joke. Can't we all just be happy that QLD is producing some high level basketball and leave it at that??? Whoever wants to argue which end is better is up to them, but for me, Im just happy with the way that QLD has produced some good talent to the state, and represented QLD at a high and competitve level. I play for Gold Coast, and though I thought we played with all that we had, Towny were just a class act all the way through, and played a great game. Congrats to all involved.

Bennie Harris

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Word. your my boy B.Harris. Congrats to townie to tough for us.

Brett Arnull.

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Great game on the weekend like i said rebounds could make the difference.Townie have some class players , that big is going places played inside and out.Gutsy effort from the coast but to big to strong to good.

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what a game that was played on saturday. it was filled with individual brilliance controvercy combacks and overall a great game. close at the start with david v playing at an NBL level unstoppable with the other big from towny playing very well. congrats to brent he played and outstanding game both offencively and deffencicly. eventual MVP with must controversy bennie harris played well however question should be posed as to many shoots is to many shoots from the land of plenty. david l played consistant as always with ty d playing well however jad lapses at both ends. overall towny with the better team. i enjoyed watching from the side lines.

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Don't kno which game u were watching mate but im guess u must be brent sheppards bf. he was terrible. couldnt shoot or dribble uses a lot of effort and goes no where. the best players for gold coast and with no controversy of mvp was ben harris, david lydiard and number 12 i think it was. all three were the best for goldy. Ben harris is a shooter he aint going to be a shooter if he dont shoot. thats how it goes. with a shot like his i as a coach would get him at least 20 shots a game. i did feel like though mvp should go to the winning team and i felt like dave deserved it he made some big plays for us.
Townsville player.

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Don't kno which game u were watching mate but im guess u must be brent sheppards bf. he was terrible. couldnt shoot or dribble uses a lot of effort and goes no where. the best players for gold coast and with no controversy of mvp was ben harris, david lydiard and number 12 i think it was. all three were the best for goldy. Ben harris is a shooter he aint going to be a shooter if he dont shoot. thats how it goes. with a shot like his i as a coach would get him at least 20 shots a game. i did feel like though mvp should go to the winning team and i felt like dave deserved it he made some big plays for us.
Townsville player.

Brent had a shocker. Consistant turnovers.. but made some steals to get it back straight after.

Ben harris played awsome, loved his like 12 point burst in the 3rd. They both should have had more minutes on together though, but supercoach (riches) kept putting that other guard on. He had NO defence, shockin' ball handeling and if it wasnt stripped off him in the first 20second of the clock, he'd jack it too. I don't know how he gets minutes along side people who have trouble letting go of the ball like brent, ty, ben and brett.

Dave lynard is a gun.

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good game. tough. crowd was narly! nothing better then playing when the crowd is involved.

MVP should of easily, easily gone to dave as he was cash at both ends of the floor and he was on the winning team....it should only go to the loosing team if the player has an absolute blinder (scores a million)....yeh B harris caught fire as shooters do but he did miss the majority of shots...although he did get GC back in the game....as a shooter the only way to catch on fire is to keep putting them up...there is a line tho.

our bigs dave and matty reece won us the game. boards / blocks / inside game

i dont know who made the previous comment about gold coast being 10 deep cause past there starting 5 they were thin, very thin.

gold coast team seemed like good blokes. cheers
tville player.

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isnt it funny how people decide that the game of basketball comes back to shooting the ball. brent had a few points and really got the coast of to a good start. he had more steals than anyone in the game and never gave up. however is fat and unfit should look for another hobby. it is crap that dave did not get mvp as bennie had to start hitting some shots after throwing up over 20 odd. dave had a quite game tough position to play again a 7' footer. once again ty got shown up his moves require him to use athletisism against players who are smaller than him and in this game it didnt work as they were huge. the other big from towny was a major key second best player on the court in my opinion. coast played the worst game that i have seen and it is about time they got taken of the high horse

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With regards to the MVP i dont know who picks it but they should be ashamed of themselves. The big from Townie (Dave) was miles in front the other big in second.This is nothing against Ben but is does tarnish the award.Hows the clown that says a kids put on some weight so he needs to find another hobbie,so if he cant pass a skin fold test he can no longer play in some second grade comp.you my man are a joke

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With regards to the MVP i dont know who picks it but they should be ashamed of themselves. The big from Townie (Dave) was miles in front the other big in second.This is nothing against Ben but is does tarnish the award.Hows the clown that says a kids put on some weight so he needs to find another hobbie,so if he cant pass a skin fold test he can no longer play in some second grade comp.you my man are a joke

Yeah that last bit is pretty slack. We can all remember the Shep from u/18s, sid mines running his ass off, made 2 state sides. He was in reasonable shape then, maybe wasnt extreamly quick, but strong, balanced and smart. If he gets back into shape, I can see him being a role player for an aba side.

Brents skills and smarts + ty davidsons athletism.

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When does the next D league season start?

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Does anyone know who is coaching which D League teams this coming season?

[TG]

Wouldn't it be nice this next season if someone had something to talk about other than Brent Sheppard/Runaway Bay/Gold Coast and some banter was made about lots of different players week in week out so everyone gets to know the league a bit better?

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definantly...considering this is, to an extent, the future of our number one state league...I unfortuantly have nothing to offer though haha

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When does the next D league season start?

Does anyone know if the D League draw will try to avoid possible clashes with U18 Classics?

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Does anyone know if the D League draw will try to avoid possible clashes with U18 Classics?

And what about U18 Premier League season clashes.......

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Basketball shoes for sale - please see Ballers, Etc thread at end of Mr Ben's Nike Air Max 360s posts

Also basketball singlets, shorts (large sizes) and Huffy spring release portable hoop.

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D-League is where kids play to mature as a player for 2 seasons before they jump right in to ABA, The likes of GC, Cab, Ips did well cuz they were basically all young guys playing hard week in week out!! All these people talking shit dont no anything about the game!!

D-League should be capped at 22 with 2 players older than that MAX!!


Interested to see this season which teams will be strong!!

Any ideas??

[Mr bEn]

If the D-League were a true development league, then there would be no restrictions on who can play. Having young blokes play against themselves is merely a glorified BQJBC competition, and does little to prepare them to play against the big boys in state league.

Let the kids mix it with those who've been there and done that to give them a real taste of what senior competition is like.

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there shouldn't be a cap in D league....
D league its for the development of those who aren't at the ABA level in order to have them ready by the time they make the step for their ABA teams. with the inclusion of u20's comp in Junior there should a reason to cap D league.. if they are 18 or 24 shouldn't make a difference. if they aren't ready to make contribution or hold their own in ABA they should be allowed to play D league. which in return strengthen our ABA competition by having the player coming up ready to ABA standard.

Game

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D League is not only a great comp for the transition of juniors to senior basketball- but now with the NCAA enforcing the restriction on College players playing QABL, you would expect that D League is the only comp they will be eligible to play- think it will end up a lot stronger than people think.

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it will good for those boy that wanna play college to play against some good player not same junior they play against in under 18.... i agree no cap

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if you want d-league to be an underage comp then change it to be part of the normal bqjbc structure.

if you want it to be a true second tier to the qbl then the only restriction should be a limit on the number of minutes you can play in the qbl.

if there was an age limit where would associations like logan and harvey bay and runaway bay play to get up to qbl standard ?

regional centers have been leaving bq at an alarming rate as they don't see any benifit in being affiliated. having a true second tier comp would mean they would have somewhere to play their rep teams.

but for gods sake change the name from development-league to something a bit less demeaning. It is hard enough to attract sponsorship at the top level but when you are trying to market the league you are playing in as more than just a junior comp the name development kinda stands in the way.

bring back the cup !!!!

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it is also interesting that the victorians have just signed an agreement to set up a youth league where the limit is U23 + 2 others.

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Just to let you know what happens in other States

18th January 2009

SEABL Development League – A Pathway Created

SEABL Development League Director Ben Turner announced the formation of a new Development League for both men and women to commence in the 2009 Season. The SEABL Development League will be sponsored by Crazy John’s as part of their continued involvement with community based basketball programs.

Turner said “that following requests to the Board from Victorian SEABL member clubs, and working with Basketball Victoria and the Big V, the Crazy John’s D League has been formed. The Crazy John’s D League will enable those Clubs the opportunity to create a consistent pathway for players, coaches, administrators & officials. The Crazy John’s D League provides a straight line development pathway for Clubs from the VJBL to senior basketball while continue to hold a strong connection to community grass roots basketball The Crazy John’s D League will provide a high standard of competition while providing both fiscal and marketing benefits to member clubs.

Turner said “the Crazy John’s D League would be administered from the SEABL Office and will be run in conjunction with the Senior SEABL Men’s and Women’s Competitions with a view to allowing our future Boomers and Opals players the opportunity to gain experience training and playing with their Senior program.”

“Initially the Crazy John’s D League will consist of Victorian based clubs, but the Office will be working with our interstate members to assist them in developing their own youth development programs and it is envisaged that in future year these teams will participate in invitational tournaments throughout the season” Turner said.

Crazy John’s is excited to be involved as Naming Rights sponsor for both the “Crazy John’s SEABL Championship” and the “Crazy John’s D League.” Matt Scriven, Head of Marketing for Crazy John’s, said “Crazy John’s was keen to sponsor the sport at a grass-roots level as part of the business’ commitment to supporting the local communities in which it operates.”

The sponsorship arrangement between SEABL and Crazy John’s is also reflective of the shared values of both organisations, with both SEABL and Crazy John’s dedicated to delivering a superior product for their members and customers and a strong organisational culture for their staff.

For further Information
Mark Chivers – 0418 206 623

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If the D-League were a true development league, then there would be no restrictions on who can play. Having young blokes play against themselves is merely a glorified BQJBC competition, and does little to prepare them to play against the big boys in state league.

Let the kids mix it with those who've been there and done that to give them a real taste of what senior competition is like.
Good concept but at least have some standards criteria that the older players need to have to be able to play in the league. Otherwise the kids can get enough rough and tumble against unfit unathletic blokes in their Associations A grade comp.

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who will be the gun teams in the comp this year???