FIBA Rule Updates/Changes

[Urban Legend]

Will there be any FIBA rule updates or changes after the Olympics this year?

[Unregistered]

There always is. The only time rules get reviewed are after world championships and olympics. I would say they would get implemented in the NBL and accross the associations next year.

[Unregistered]

the new rules are out. basically FIBA is moving to the NBA rules.

NBA 3 point line, NBA keyway, NBA style shot clock resets, NBA style back court rule, NBA style circle under the basket. nba style breakaway unsportsmanlike foul etc etc

if only they would bring back the jump ball.

[darkjedi]

Are out where exactly?

There's nothing listed on the FIBA website as yet....

{edit} google to the rescue though.. Source
(http://news.xinhuanet.com/english/2008-04/26/content_8057157.htm)
I'm wondering if this only applies to international FIBA competitions (champs/olympics) - As there's potential to severely piss off a number of associations who have to get their 3-pt arcs re-painted..

BEIJING, Aprll 26 (Xinhua) -- International basketball competitions after 2009 will have longer range three-pointer arc and several major changes on the court as the world basketball governing body announced on Saturday here.

A Central Board Meeting of the International Basketball Association (FIBA) was held during an international women's basketball competition here and top officials released the decision after two-day meeting on Saturday.

The range of the 3-pointer arc to the basket is extended, from the current 6.25 meters to 6.75 meters, which leaves only three-quarter-meter distance from the 3-point line to the side line at the position paralleling to the basket.

"Players need not to change the shooting skill when the 3-pointline is half a meter away from the current one. But if we change it to the distance that the NBA matches are using, it might cause big problems," FIBA General Secretary Patrick Baumann said on Saturday.

The farthest position of the 3-point line in the NBA is 7.25 meter away from the basket. It is on the top of the arc.

"We must take more levels of competitions into account. Not all the players are as good as the NBA players. We have lots of U-19s and U-17s who need time to make adjustment to the changes," Baumann added.

The restricted area, or three-second area, reshaped from a trapezoid to a rectangle.

A no-charge semicircle is introduced into the international games. The distance of the inner edge of the semicircles is 1.25 meters from the center of the basket.

A charging foul should never be called if the contact by the offensive player is with the defensive player standing within the no-charge semicircle.

If 13 seconds or less are displayed on the 24-second device when the game is stopped, it will be not reset to another 24 seconds but to 14 seconds to the offensive team. If 14 seconds or more left, the 24-second device will not be reset and the time remains the same.

"I'm sure these changes will make the game more watchable, encouraging teams to attack more and to have high scorings," FIBA President Bob Elphinston said during a news conference at Wukesong Arena.

All these changes will not come into effect until October 1, 2010, after the 2010 FIBA World Championship, and the deadline is October 1, 2012 to lower level FIBA competitions and to competitions of national federations after the 2012 London Olympics.

[Unregistered]

source: FIBA
http://www.fiba.com/pages/eng/fe/08/olym/wom/news/presRele/p/newsid/24352/arti.html

[Urban Legend]

OFFICIAL BASKETBALL RULES 2008:

All below-mentioned rules will come into effect as of 1st October 2008, i.e. after the Beijing 2008 Olympic Games.

Art. 4.3 Uniforms

The provision that T-shirts may be worn by players under their game uniforms is not valid anymore.

Art. 25.2.3 Player falling on the floor

It is legal when a player falls and slides on the floor while holding the ball.

Art. 28.1.3 Ball goes into team’s frontcourt

The ball goes to the teams’ frontcourt when, during the dribble from backcourt to frontcourt, both feet of the dribbler and the ball are in contact with the frontcourt.

Art. 30.1.2 Ball returned to the backcourt

It will not be a violation anymore if a player, who jumps from his frontcourt, establishes a new team control while still airborne and then lands in his team’s backcourt.

Art. 31 Goaltending and interference

If a player reaches through the basket from below and touches the ball, it is an interference (and not a simple violation) with all the relevant rule consequences.

Art. 36.1.4 Unsportsmanlike foul

If a defensive player causes contact with an opponent from behind or laterally in an attempt to stop a fast break and there is no opponent between the offensive player and the opponents’ basket, then the contact shall be judged to be unsportsmanlike.

Art. 38.3.1 Technical foul

A technical foul can be called on a player for excessive swinging of elbows (without contact).


OFFICIAL BASKETBALL RULES 2010:

The below mentioned rule amendments will come into effect as follows:

• For high level competitions/Level 1 (main FIBA official competitions: i.e. Olympic Tournaments, World Championships for Men and Women, U19 and U17 World Championships for Men and Women and Zone/Continental Championships for Men and Women): as of 1st October 2010, i.e. after the 2010 FIBA World Championship.

• For medium level competitions/Level 2 (i.e. all other FIBA official competitions and the high level competitions of the national federations): as of 1st October 2012, i.e. after the London 2012 Olympic Games.

Art. 2.2.3 Free-throw lines and restricted areas

The restricted areas shall be the floor rectangle areas marked on the playing court.

The restricted (three-second) area shall be a rectangle (not anymore a trapezoid) as per Diagram 1 below.

Art. 2.2.4 Three-point field goal area

The distance of the three-point line shall be 6,75 m (and not 6,25 m as present).

Art. 2.2.6 Throw-in side lines

The two (2) small lines shall be marked outside the court, on the opposite side of the scorer’s table and the team bench areas, with the outer edge at the distance of 8,325 m from the inside edge of the end lines; in other words, level to the top of the three-point line.

During the last two (2) minutes of the game and of the extra period, following the time-out granted to the team that has been entitled to the possession of the ball from its backcourt, the subsequent throw-in will be taken on the opposite side of the scorer’s table from the “throw-in side line” and not as presently from the centre line extended.

Art. 2.2.7 No-charge semicircles

The no-charge semicircles shall be marked on the playing court, under the baskets. The distance of the inner edge of the semicircles shall be 1,25 m from the centre of the basket (on the floor).

A charging (offensive) foul should never be called if the contact by the offensive player is with the defensive player standing within the no-charge semicircle.

Art. 29 Twenty-four seconds

If the throw-in is to be administered in the backcourt, if required by the respective rules, the 24 second device shall be reset to 24 seconds.

If the throw-in is to be administered in the frontcourt, if required by the respective rules, the 24-second device shall be reset as follows:

- If 14 seconds or more are displayed on the 24-second device at the time the game was stopped, the 24-second device shall not be reset and shall remain the same.

- If 13 seconds or less are displayed on the 24-second device at the time the game was stopped, the 24-second device shall be reset to 14 seconds.

[phenom_54]

its getting to nba but i can live with a couple of the changes like the unsportsmanlike foul rule also the no charge line i find it will be more benifical in teaching younger players i just hope they dont bring in defensive 3 seconds realy dont like the tech foul for elbowing its a contact foul not a techenical foul to me no contact is no call they may as well bring the nba techenical foul rule

[darkjedi]

Whilst I'm not too sure on the swinging elbows bit either, I actually like what they've changed with some of the other rules. I'm going to have fun with the "no t-shirts under uniform, full stop" rule :)

[Veteran]

So for the 'ball in frontcourt' bit, if a player for example puts both feet into the frontcourt but is still dribbling in the backcourt, then runs into the backcourt completely, it's no longer a back over half violation? I don't really agree with that. I like the current rule, as soon as one foot is on the line and you are in control of the ball, you are considered to be in the frontcourt and must only go forward to avoid violation.

[Unregistered]

its getting to nba but i can live with a couple of the changes like the unsportsmanlike foul rule also the no charge line i find it will be more benifical in teaching younger players i just hope they dont bring in defensive 3 seconds realy dont like the tech foul for elbowing its a contact foul not a techenical foul to me no contact is no call they may as well bring the nba techenical foul rule

A tech foul is for non contact situations

Think of this as preventative officiating. A swinging elbow can do a lot of damage so why not nip it in the bud so to speak.

[Unregistered]

So for the 'ball in frontcourt' bit, if a player for example puts both feet into the frontcourt but is still dribbling in the backcourt, then runs into the backcourt completely, it's no longer a back over half violation? I don't really agree with that. I like the current rule, as soon as one foot is on the line and you are in control of the ball, you are considered to be in the frontcourt and must only go forward to avoid violation.

Actually the centre line is part of backcourt

[Squawky]

Actually the centre line is part of backcourt

Correct.

Vetran - My reading of the rule is that the change will be in that you have to get both feet in the front court to be considered in the front court. So in essence the rule becomes about having completely left the backcourt, and then returning to the backcourt, as opposed to having the emphasis on the front court part of the player's actions (if that makes sense).

I don't mind the rule for the situation where a player (as the progress the ball up the court) runs laterally across the court - towards a sidline, with one foot either side of the half-way line. They're not physically moving in either an offensive or defensive direction, but according to the current rules this is a back court violation.

However, i don't like the idea that this can provide a release for offensive players who get trapped by good defence on the sideline and happen to have a foot in both the front and back court. A pass to the back court in this situation would undo a lot of the good work that was done by the defensive team.

Just my take on that particular rule change.

[Squawky]

its getting to nba but i can live with a couple of the changes like the unsportsmanlike foul rule also the no charge line i find it will be more benifical in teaching younger players i just hope they dont bring in defensive 3 seconds realy dont like the tech foul for elbowing its a contact foul not a techenical foul to me no contact is no call they may as well bring the nba techenical foul rule

With the no charge line, and changed 3 point line and keyway dimensions, this is only for tier 1 and 2 competitions. This is FIBA tournaments, FIBA Junior Championships, and the NBL. So it won't be at local, rep, state or QABL level. Which is just as well because associations would not be able to afford the costs associated with it.

[Mr bEn]

I've been out of the loop with line-ball calls .... here's a situation I just saw on the box.

Kobe gets double-teamed at the top of the keyway. His choice is to pass the ball off the backboard (in a shooting motion) straight back to himself for the alley-oop lay-in.

A spectacular play indeed, but would it be legal in the QABL?

[Unregistered]

If it was deemed to be a shot, yes it's legal. It'd look ugly but it would be legal as long as it looks like a shot.

[Unregistered]

Hmmm, "no charge arc".... I can see a lot of barging and pushing through the defence. or will the call just be changed to a pushing foul on the offencive player, which could now result in shots..???

[Unregistered]

I think you will find it will be a foul on the d-fence because the whole idea is to encourgae them to play d early and get outside of that line, or try to block the shot, not stand there n take a charge. Try to have a look at an NBA game on how they play with it. Think highlight real is more important than good fundamentals and trapping the offence.
It is unfortunate that if the D play's good D and get's hit while in there they will not get the call, but it looks like FIBA wants to be like the NBA, Offence focused. It must put bums on seats.

[darkjedi]

Hmmm, "no charge arc".... I can see a lot of barging and pushing through the defence. or will the call just be changed to a pushing foul on the offencive player, which could now result in shots..???

How could it result in shots? If a foul results in a change of team control, there can never be shots (unless it's a tech/DQ/Unsportsmanlike of course).

[Unregistered]

If a team is over the limit (4 team fouls) then you usually get shots for every foul, except charges. In this case (a pushing foul) it would/could result in shots now. No..??

[darkjedi]

The original comment was "I can see a lot of barging and pushing through the defence. or will the call just be changed to a pushing foul on the offencive player", right?

You're implying that the offensive team is still in posession of the ball (ie. Team Control) when they're "barging and pushing" through the defence? If so, it's going to be deemed a team control foul if the Offense gets pinged for pushing the defensive player, right? Which means it's an offensive foul so no free throws will be forthcoming (unless it's a DQ/Tech/US of course).

[Unregistered]

So what is the difference between an "offensive foul" and a "charge"..??

Are you saying if the offense comes barging through the defense (inside the arc) then there will be no call..? Or is that call now being called an "offensive foul" instead of a charge, but with the same outcome..??

[darkjedi]

Any foul commited by the team in control of the ball is classed as an offensive foul. Be it a charge, illegal screen or offensive player pushing a defender out of position etc.

[Squawky]

So what is the difference between an "offensive foul" and a "charge"..??

Are you saying if the offense comes barging through the defense (inside the arc) then there will be no call..? Or is that call now being called an "offensive foul" instead of a charge, but with the same outcome..??

The no charge arc is a rule that is currently in place in the NBA. Contact between offence and defence within this circle (even that which would conventionally be called a charge on any other part of the court), will be called against the defence. Therefore, if you "take a charge" from within this circle, then it will be called a block.

[Unregistered]

Therefore, if you "take a charge" from within this circle, then it will be called a block.

That is also the way I understood it, hence the question: what is to stop someone from posting up on the arc and then just dropping the shoulder or barging through the defence to get to the hole..??

Normally that would be called a charge.

[Unregistered]

At the Elite level it will not be an issue.

At ABA and below it will.

[Squawky]

At the Elite level it will not be an issue.

At ABA and below it will.

Well, you'll notice that the rule is only coming in at Tier 1 and 2 (FIBA and NBL), so the ABA won't be affected.

[Unregistered]

Well, you'll notice that the rule is only coming in at Tier 1 and 2 (FIBA and NBL), so the ABA won't be affected.

Therefore why worry. There must be nmore pressing issues to talk about

[Mark Jessup]

just felt like leaving a random comment. nothing to say.