U14 Girls Premier League

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Purpose-built for discussion.

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Teams Qualifying in Under 14 Girls

Maroochydore
South West
Brisbane
Ipswich
Logan
SD Spartans
SD Titans
Runaway Bay

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div 2
coastal suns beat noosa 72-6
any other results

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who are the top 5 teams in under 14's

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Logan
Districts
Runaway Bay
Maroochydore
Ipswich

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Ipswich girls maybe the dark horse in this comp staying in the game against the spartens until mid way through third quarter when team got in to foul trouble. With only eight players they contained kimi but had no one to contain tiarn.I pswich only went down by 18. Good job ipswich girls

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Logan and Districts the top 2 sides with Maroocydore the only realistic dark horse in this competition.

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Couldn't disagree more about the U14 girls being a 3 horse race. Ipswich played very well on the week end and really tested Spartans.

Maroochydore are always competitive and Runaway Bay have also shown some promise. Being a good side now doesn't mean a lot when classics are still over 6 months away. Brisbane are always tough during classics, in any age group, and anyone that discounts them this early in the season is foolish.

To suggest that Logan, Spartans and Maroochydore are the only chances in this age group may be the demise of some teams.

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Logan v Districts this weekend will decide the top ranked team.

Logan to win by 12 with the home court advantage.

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Logan v Districts this weekend will decide the top ranked team.

Logan to win by 12 with the home court advantage.
Logan get up in a close one by 3.

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Ipswich girls had a good win against marchydore on Saturday. Ipswich had two players that stood out number 11 in the first half who rebounded both offensively and defensively. Number 12 had a great second half. Number 12 played 30 mins and was only subbed off at the end of the game and had a 10 point quarter with her defence her biggest assest. This team may upset a few teams, I am sure Marchydore thought they would put them away like they did two weeks before. Good luck

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What has happened to the Brissy team this year. Seem to be lacking numbers in the first team, but have three teams in Under 14 girls. I noticed the second team have been undefeated but stayed in Southern Cup. Seems they could have given the first team a run for their money. Hve they got some players injured or something?

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Logan girls training harder than ever will remain undefeated for the rest of the season and win premier league easily.

Look out opposition teams as the Thunder is getting bigger and better.

Coach Larry is a legend!

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Coach Larry is the difference between these 2 teams. His experience and record with coaching girls in this age group is the best.

Logan to beat up Districts this week by 20 points.

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Go Logan Go Logan Go Logan Go Logan Go Logan.

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[QUOTE=Unregistered;3132]Go Logan Go Logan Go Logan Go Logan Go Logan.[/QUOT

Larry and the girls off to Club Nationals AGAIN maybe or is that tournament scrapped?

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On in early October at Gawler, South Australia

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megan trinder is the best player i have ever seen she has the braines the skill and th speed she is the best

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oi who won out of ipswich and run away bay?????????

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Runaway Bay won by 56 to 43. Not sure who Ipswich number 12 was but she kept Ipswich in the game. She would of had to score close to 25 points. There was no player in the Runaway Bay team that was able to contain her. Good Luck Runaway Bay in the finals!!!!!!!!!

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[QUOTE=Unregistered;3132]Go Logan Go Logan Go Logan Go Logan Go Logan.[/QUOT

Larry and the girls off to Club Nationals AGAIN maybe or is that tournament scrapped?

still a lot of basketball to be played, i wouldn't be talking it up just yet. classics aren't til july and there are always surprises when they come around

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Who is number 12 for Ipswich does antone know

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Interesting final - Runaway Bay Vs Districts. Any predictions? Obvioulsy Runaway Bay are playing well under their new coach.

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how come they have a new coach?

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All I heard after last weeks game when Runaway Bay played Logan was that Shane Heal is now coaching the Runaway Bay team and his daughter shot the lights out.

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All I heard after last weeks game when Runaway Bay played Logan was that Shane Heal is now coaching the Runaway Bay team and his daughter shot the lights out.

WOW SHANE HEAL!!!!
omg well good luck to run away bay i hope u guys win
a change from the spartans just winning!
hahah yeahh good luck and play hard

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Interesting final - Runaway Bay Vs Districts. Any predictions? Obvioulsy Runaway Bay are playing well under their new coach.

spartans wil win so just get ova it!
but try ur hardest'!!!!!

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All I heard after last weeks game when Runaway Bay played Logan was that Shane Heal is now coaching the Runaway Bay team and his daughter shot the lights out.

shot the lights out????
what does that mean she shot good
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Yes it means she shot very well

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good to see that rbay beat the all mighty logan on the weekend, and logan with coach obree will b watchin the game this weekend, cancelled ur flights to nationals i take it hahah

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Great to see someone like Sane Heal getting back to grass roots level and coaching his daughters team, well done Shane, but sadly some low class parent from Logan who is also one of their so called elite coaches throwing trash at Shane and his daughter,.......very classy Logan.

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Dissapointing that this sort of trash is written for all to see.

Let them sort out their differences behind closed doors not on an open forum such as this.

Logan will rebound and take care of Runnaway Bay nect time they happen to meet.

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Dissapointing that this sort of trash is written for all to see.

Let them sort out their differences behind closed doors not on an open forum such as this.

Logan will rebound and take care of Runnaway Bay nect time they happen to meet.

It's even more disappionting to hear that this happened in the first place!! These are 11,12 and 13 year old children for goodness sake!! I find it dissapointing that you would show the behaviour that unfortunately; is becoming common place out at Lgan, by your last line.... They are CHILDREN, not superstar players here for your enjoyment!! Who really cares if they "take care of Runnaway Bay nect time they happen to meet". I hope that the lesson they learn is one of enjoyment, compettion and fair play. Then they could possibly teach some of their parents and supporters some of these valuable lessons!!

I have every confidence that Mark Dalton and crew will make the culprits responsible for this allegedly cowardly act accountable for their actions.

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Who is number 12 for Ipswich does antone know

shes not that god man

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good to see that rbay beat the all mighty logan on the weekend, and logan with coach obree will b watchin the game this weekend, cancelled ur flights to nationals i take it hahah

hahahah nahh logans still the best!
with spartans and maroochy behind

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It's even more disappionting to hear that this happened in the first place!! These are 11,12 and 13 year old children for goodness sake!! I find it dissapointing that you would show the behaviour that unfortunately; is becoming common place out at Lgan, by your last line.... They are CHILDREN, not superstar players here for your enjoyment!! Who really cares if they "take care of Runnaway Bay nect time they happen to meet". I hope that the lesson they learn is one of enjoyment, compettion and fair play. Then they could possibly teach some of their parents and supporters some of these valuable lessons!!

I have every confidence that Mark Dalton and crew will make the culprits responsible for this allegedly cowardly act accountable for their actions.

What a load of crap! Theres always 2 sides to every story and your obviously not a supporter of Logan. The 2 people in question are both passionate about their basketball, coaching, supporting or otherwise, this is competitve sport for godsake of course theres going to be clashes you only need to read any of the forums on bendoes. This is representative basketball not club or social. So long as squabbles such as these remain between coaches/parents is the main thing. Which I am positive these 2 advocates of basketball are well aware of.

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What a load of crap! Theres always 2 sides to every story and your obviously not a supporter of Logan. The 2 people in question are both passionate about their basketball, coaching, supporting or otherwise, this is competitve sport for godsake of course theres going to be clashes you only need to read any of the forums on bendoes. This is representative basketball not club or social. So long as squabbles such as these remain between coaches/parents is the main thing. Which I am positive these 2 advocates of basketball are well aware of.

Another fine example of Logan Logic!!

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Districts beat Bay in final

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Districts beat Bay in final

Congrats to districts, you are definitely the team to beat come classics time!

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Great final between 2 tough sides.

Runaway Bay have been the big improvers in this competition and will make an impact at classics if thay can continue to improve.

Districts are a very solid side loaded with quick guards who are in your face the whole game. Lack a good big but continue to win despite this.

Logan will bounce back strongly after upset loss in premier league semi final. Coach Larry will no doubt have this team peak for classics.

Maroochydore can beat anyone on their day and just need to find some consistency in their game.

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Great final between 2 tough sides.

Runaway Bay have been the big improvers in this competition and will make an impact at classics if thay can continue to improve.

Districts are a very solid side loaded with quick guards who are in your face the whole game. Lack a good big but continue to win despite this.

Logan will bounce back strongly after upset loss in premier league semi final. Coach Larry will no doubt have this team peak for classics.

Maroochydore can beat anyone on their day and just need to find some consistency in their game.

Oscar and twiggy and mayb ralphy lol = its obvious that the chyks competition is not as exciting as the boyz under 14 i meen common you've got the best in the whole league performing here including north are shit by da way lol were was i o yeah south or should i say qld under 14 boys have,,,, ralphy,regan,cody.oscar,and mitch r the tru competetors in the league

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in the under 14 girls they have some great girls players : Logan Megan and Sarah, Brisbane Olivia and Ashleigh, Runaway Bay Ashleigh and Alicia, Ipswich Tyler and Lori, South West Kellie, Southern Districts kimmie and Tiarn and Marchydore has the young girl of Page and another big, Its not all just about the boys the girl comptition has had some great games and at the classics any team could win any game.

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Oscar and twiggy and mayb ralphy lol = its obvious that the chyks competition is not as exciting as the boyz under 14 i meen common you've got the best in the whole league performing here including north are shit by da way lol were was i o yeah south or should i say qld under 14 boys have,,,, ralphy,regan,cody.oscar,and mitch r the tru competetors in the league

Boys you have your own thread stop trying to invade the girls' with your over inflated egoes

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hahahah nahh logans still the best!
with spartans and maroochy behind

Sorry, but I believe that Maroochydore beat Logan. Any way as I was explaining earlier this trash has to stop! Serious conciquences will be applied if it continues.

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would anyone know who the best player for ipswich is???

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Congrats to districts, you are definitely the team to beat come classics time!


Ipswich only lost to spartens by 3. I think that if ipswich are on they can beat any team!!!!

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If the top 4 in no particular order are Spartans, Ippy, Logan and Runaway Bay....could be similar ending to last years U14 classics where under-dogs Logan beat South West in the semi-final, finishing top 2 then off to club nationals. Looks like dejavu maybe?

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If the top 4 in no particular order are Spartans, Ippy, Logan and Runaway Bay....could be similar ending to last years U14 classics where under-dogs Logan beat South West in the semi-final, finishing top 2 then off to club nationals. Looks like dejavu maybe?

Aren't you forgetting that teams from north queensland also attend the classics!

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Ipswich girls had a good win against marchydore on Saturday. Ipswich had two players that stood out number 11 in the first half who rebounded both offensively and defensively. Number 12 had a great second half. Number 12 played 30 mins and was only subbed off at the end of the game and had a 10 point quarter with her defence her biggest assest. This team may upset a few teams, I am sure Marchydore thought they would put them away like they did two weeks before. Good luck

What ever

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If the top 4 in no particular order are Spartans, Ippy, Logan and Runaway Bay....could be similar ending to last years U14 classics where under-dogs Logan beat South West in the semi-final, finishing top 2 then off to club nationals. Looks like dejavu maybe?

maroochy came third ???

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maroochy came third ???

THAT means nothing in premier leauge. Ippy coaches left their best 4 players of for 1 and half auarters for some games thats were ippy lost the for and against. If ippy coaches thought smarter ippy girls could have been in the finals. i have watched ippy play they need to work as a team

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Hope Ipswich can back up their talk with results on game day as Logan, Maroochydore, Runaway Bay, Districts, Townsville & Cairns are all training hard and will be ready to play you.

Results on game day are all that count not what could of happened.

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Hope Ipswich can back up their talk with results on game day as Logan, Maroochydore, Runaway Bay, Districts, Townsville & Cairns are all training hard and will be ready to play you.

Results on game day are all that count not what could of happened.

i agree !!! ispwich girls haven't had much training run . Wonder waht will happen at classics

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I Hope every one has been training hard. Now there's a little more incentive.

Read the message below that is now on the BQ website:

2 Extra Teams for the Under 14 National Club Champ
Due to changes in the format of the Under 14 National Club Championships, Queensland will now be able to nominate 2 more teams to the National Club Championships each year. This means that Queensland will have three teams competing at both the girls and boys tournaments.

At the Under 14 State Classics; rather than the two teams who compete in both the boys and girls grand-finals representing Queensland at the National Club Championships, the team who wins the 3/4 play-off will also be going. This makes the 3/4 play-off a very important game for those teams.

Basketball Queensland will continue to provide $2,000 to each team competing in the National tournament, even though there will be an additional 2 teams competing.

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Boys you have your own thread stop trying to invade the girls' with your over inflated egoes


haha u callin ma egoe inflated bahahahha girls girls just dont understand huh??

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Does anyone know how a team PWP Waikato (NZ) get to qualify for the Queensland State Championships. Makes a bit of a mockery of the tournament as a state championship when anyone can enter. It really is just an invitational tournament.

Does the Kiwi team get to qualify for Nationals? Are all the players the correct age?

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I hope they enter teams in the next lot of classics as well gives a change of faces the kids seem to play year in and year out. Im sure they are the qualifying age otherwise BQ wouldnt have let them enter in the first place. Its great to have them. They attend the Nationals in 16s, 18s and 20s as well. Best thing for both BQ and NZ I say.

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Simple, they applied to BQ and BQ accepted them. All ages were verified and passed before they even got accepted, so sour grape talk like that should cease. They also had to get permission from NZ Basketball to play.

And don't worry, no they can't represent QLD at nationals. They aren't from QLD. But the QLD teams should appreciate the competition, so they don't get slapped in the face when they do get too nationals.

I don't think it makes a mockery at all. IF anything it shows QLD what it needs to do to get in shape for greater competition.

The mockery is when sore losers start complaining. Such as spartan parents at tonights game, when it was obvious they were going to get beaten.

Congratulations to the NZ team who are all the right age and have played hard and with great sportsmanship. Even giving little gifts to all the teams they play. Has been exciting watching them. MOST players and others there appreciate them in the comp too.

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I have been to U14 nationals and saw the kiwi team playing spartans tonite both teams would go alright but neither would take out the title.

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I have been to U14 nationals and saw the kiwi team playing spartans tonite both teams would go alright but neither would take out the title.

Both teams lack quality bigs to win nationals.

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Both teams lack quality bigs to win nationals.

I would just hope that the NZ teams supporters show a bit more sportsmanship during their games than they have showed in their games so far.

You have a great team with amazing talent and win no doubt win this tournament by as many points as your coach wants to, just show some respect to the opposition during the games is all I ask.

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Please give me one example where the ref has gone off her nut at the bench at the refs at the anyone .. all she's interested in is the team and doing well. Also the supporters are just like every other supporter. The team has paid their own way to this competition and parents have come with them. Just like every other parent who is there. Actually it seems that whatever team is not on the court playing NZ is barrracking for them. Especially as many of the local teams know each other and already do not like each other. Whoever made the above comment sounds very one eyed. All the noise isn't just coming from Waikato family members.
I am not sure if either team would do well at nationals. But hopefully the local teams will use this opportunity too step up their game as they have a little bit of a taste of what it will be like.
PS ever seen the crowd at nationals .. haha .. one year for U14 boys one of the teams had a full on band, was awesome. Totally put the boys off but was awesome.

I'm sure it's all parents making the comments here anyways. We should relax and let the girls and their coaches do their thing.

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I would like to resond to the Logan Parent. Firstly, the supporters 'showing' sportsmanship. You are kidding right! Fans of the Waikato Team behaved appropriately, and in a manner you would find at any QABL game......Why are you insisting that the 'coach' is insisting that her team go out and obliterate the opposition... Obviously, you have not been following the Pool A games, or you would have found out that Spartans showed no mercy on an opponent and scored 91 vs 30sh. Wake up !!! this is State Classic and you need every point you can get.. I say good on the kiwi team, and it shows how much they are loved by family members coming with them, and attracting a wider fan base over the last 2 days........

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Someone raised a vaild point in the U12 Classics forum that the QLD classics is suffering from an identity crisis. ie. what is the purpose of the classics. Is it to crown an NZ team QLD State Champion? Similar thing happened 2 years ago in U16 Boys when Darwin smashed every team in DIV 2 to be crowned Div 2 Champions.

Is this a QLD state championship or is it just another tournament??

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Be grateful for the competition the Waikato team brings as others have posted it can only help improve the qld teams. I have been to so many classics with 3 kids having coming through the qld programme its good to see some new faces and competition.

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Given that NZ can bring a team in what is to stop say a Sydney or Melbourne based associations bringing in teams to compete in the QLD championships.

They would not be able to win but ........

It is always dangerous to set a precedant no matter how good the intentions.

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Someone raised a vaild point in the U12 Classics forum that the QLD classics is suffering from an identity crisis. ie. what is the purpose of the classics. Is it to crown an NZ team QLD State Champion? Similar thing happened 2 years ago in U16 Boys when Darwin smashed every team in DIV 2 to be crowned Div 2 Champions.

Is this a QLD state championship or is it just another tournament??

Not sure if my memory serves me right but didn't the U16 Boys Div 2 championship go to the team who came second as the Darwin team were not from Queensland?

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Simple, they applied to BQ and BQ accepted them. All ages were verified and passed before they even got accepted, so sour grape talk like that should cease. They also had to get permission from NZ Basketball to play.

And don't worry, no they can't represent QLD at nationals. They aren't from QLD. But the QLD teams should appreciate the competition, so they don't get slapped in the face when they do get too nationals.

I don't think it makes a mockery at all. IF anything it shows QLD what it needs to do to get in shape for greater competition.

The mockery is when sore losers start complaining. Such as spartan parents at tonights game, when it was obvious they were going to get beaten.

Congratulations to the NZ team who are all the right age and have played hard and with great sportsmanship. Even giving little gifts to all the teams they play. Has been exciting watching them. MOST players and others there appreciate them in the comp too.
At a guess I'd reckon this came from someone whose team plays in the other pool and didnt get knocked out (both physically and out of the competition) by the marauding Kiwi team. Does your team actually get a leg up by not having to play one of the better teams eliminated by this group? Can understand why your impressed with their lovely little gifts and stuff. Anyway, when Queensland teams have to play a qualifying tournament for the privledge of playing DIV 1 and having their parents drive them all around SEQ for 20 weeks paying and paying some more along the way, it just isnt right that a team from whatamatabro or wherever can turn up and make a mockery of Queensland Basketball's State Championships.
There's plenty of invitational and streetball tournaments down south and even on the Gold Coast for random teams to enter in if they need the competition. Certainly no other State allows them to supercede the paying membership of their State Association at State Championships time.

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Give these kiwi kids a break they are the same sizes and age as the rest of the kids competing in the classics. So their winning all their games, I watched them play and they are beatable with the right coaching tactics played against them. Its the parents whinging not the coaches....

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Thats exactly the point. Every other team had to qualify.

No other state would allow their state championships to be tarnished like this. Certainly not fair to the teams who are trying to qualify for Nationals.

It is great to have new teams etc playing, but that what carnivals are for. Classics are now clearly a carnival/fund raiser.

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Teams dont have to qualify for classics they nominate and get accepted! But teams have to qualify for nationals and I know teams can nominate to play in any of the Australian states classics, whether their nomination is accepted is the thing. Classics is a tournament that you nominate to play in not qualify for. doh

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Teams dont have to qualify for classics they nominate and get accepted! But teams have to qualify for nationals and I know teams can nominate to play in any of the Australian states classics, whether their nomination is accepted is the thing. Classics is a tournament that you nominate to play in not qualify for. doh
Get your facts right Homer! Ever heard of the wildcard challenge?...you know the one where the final 2-3 spots for Div 1 at classics are decided by teams from Div II playing off aginst each other? That is, teams who pay registration and game fees for a whole season dutifully taking their place in QUEENSLAND's Junior basketball league, developing and hoping to qualify for Div I. m I going too quick for you with all the numbers and things...? Teams dont just nominate for Div I Classics Homer, they earn their spot through qualification in Queenslands competition. Ask any of the Nthside/SWM/Districts/GC/R Bay/Twmba/Mdore kids who are playing Div II if they would have liked their shot in Div I. Let the Watamatabro team play in an invitational or streetball tournament somewhere else, bring all the reli's and have a hungi, whatever...if BQ are so desperate for the dough that they have to let them in then make it DIV II (save the Div I spots for QLD kids to develop), check their birth certificates, have the coaches and parents abide by the BA codes of ethics and dont award them any points for games won and all local teams that play them get automatic bye points. Next we'll have NZ teams and stacked interstate "club" teams qualifying for nationals by winning the Queensland State Classics. Gees! We got Homer giving advice and Mr. Burns running the show!!!

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Hang on!

Didn't Spartans U14 Boys play in the Victorian Classics in Melbourne a few weeks ago!

Sounds like double standards to me!

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Just face the facts the team was allowed to enter they are here thrashing all the teams your kids arent crying about it only you are. I hope your not voicing your opinions you have expressed on here in front of your child your not only making a spectacle of yourself you are embarrasing your child and your association. Its for the kids benefit and fun not yours.

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Hang on!

Didn't Spartans U14 Boys play in the Victorian Classics in Melbourne a few weeks ago!

Sounds like double standards to me!
Its an invitational club championships. Not their state titles. Teams to represent Victoria at Nationals are not determined at this tournament. Matter of fact why didnt the Kiwis go to that one instead?

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Facts: only 1 team from the same pool as NZ will get a chance to compete for the 3 spots available for qld teams at the nationals. 2 teams from the other pool will get a chance. how is that fair?

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Well then you will be saving your money wont you if your team doesnt make it to nationals someone complained implied on here the Waikato team not paying there dues. Besides, would you really be happy to pay thousands to send your kid to nationals only to have them place at best 15th out of 28/30 odd teams. If a group of kids from a province in NZ are thrashing Qlds 'elite teams.What chance have the Qld teams got against the Victorians who have thousands of kids turn up for rep trials. Be happy to save your money

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I think that this is one of the worst decisions ever by BQ. It is so blantantly unfair to the QLD u14 girls teams who have been training for 9 months or longer for this tournament, only for a team who didnt go through the qualifications, placed into the tournament.
Potentially the 2nd or 3rd best team from Qld may get relegated from the chance to play at Natioanals.

The u14 Nationals is the only opportunity that many players will get to go to a Nationals. The elite players will get to play in many State teams, but for some of the players who arent athletic or tall enough to be make u16, u18 state teams this is their chance.

U14 Nationals are not about winning the tournament, sure it is a goal, but the winning is in being part of that tournament.

Just because I have an opinion on a matter also doesnt mean that I have a vested interested in one of the teams, my child is missing out, my team lost the game, or that I have point to prove, or that I hate someone, or that it is politics, or that I have an agenda.

I think it is great that teams from other states or countries want to play in qld.

The fact remains that most ppl in QLd regards the Classics as the State Championships, whilst BQ just see it as a fundraiser / participation tournament, and the second part is the BQ have rules and then they just ignore them. (ie teams do have to qualify for Div 1), and the 3rd part is that no one at BQ is ever accountable for such decisions.

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Facts: only 1 team from the same pool as NZ will get a chance to compete for the 3 spots available for qld teams at the nationals. 2 teams from the other pool will get a chance. how is that fair?

Here is an update: Due to the all the hype/ focus/ and sour grapes from some people. Games have been rescheduled in order to have 2 Qld teams from Pool A still crossover with pool B (even though the NZ team is currently overall leader on the ladder) this will still allow the opportunity for them to still and try to quallify for Nationals birth. However, NZ will be still in the running for overall Classic Champions if they win their game tomorrow.

I would just like to say, if I were an outsider, I can really feel the love.....Good on the team, hopefully it is an eye opener to everyone, if they honestly think that any of our Qld teams have a hope of becoming National Champions.

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Matter of fact why didnt the Kiwis go to that one instead?

Probably because parents in the NZ team have come from QLD and were the ones who brought forth the idea .

The thing is noone expected these kiwi kids to do as well as they have, if they were losing there would be no questions at all about their presence in the tournament. ALL teams have known they would be playing from the outset of the draw and the NZ team never hid the fact that they were district and age champions. Waikato is about the size of Mackay, if that, so if a place of that size in NZ can pull out a team such as this, it shows that anyone can, with the right development and coaching.

There would be complete silence on this forum if they were losing.. which is why all those whining are hypocrites.

The coaches and players have absolutely no problem with them being here and have welcomed them tremendously, openly at games and in meetings. So if any coaches are on this forum complaining they are also hypocrites. I highly doubt that any are though, or if any actually read this trash.

And just for a sidenote, don't be surprised when other teams do choose other comps to play in. And your kids will miss the opportunity too improve their game. There's a reason QLD basketball is so far behind the other states. Parents won't let it get any better.

Good on BQ for extending the invitation and for sticking by their guns. And for the coaches too also support the NZ team for being here. Sad that parents are always the ones who ruin anything to do with kids sports.

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Here is an update: Due to the all the hype/ focus/ and sour grapes from some people. Games have been rescheduled in order to have 2 Qld teams from Pool A still crossover with pool B (even though the NZ team is currently overall leader on the ladder) this will still allow the opportunity for them to still and try to quallify for Nationals birth. However, NZ will be still in the running for overall Classic Champions if they win their game tomorrow.

I would just like to say, if I were an outsider, I can really feel the love.....Good on the team, hopefully it is an eye opener to everyone, if they honestly think that any of our Qld teams have a hope of becoming National Champions.
How Wrong Wrong Wrong and self serving you are!
You just dont get it that people pay big money and time to develop their kids through the State's peak body system only to see those opportunities given away to random wildcatters by a manager who is clearly out of his depth. Just what does/has/will the Waikato basketball club contribute to junior basketball in queensland either financially or by way of provision and training of volunteers, officials, scoretable personnel? Just where did they pay their dues to be allowed to take a Div I spot away from Queensland kids at theirown state championships?
Anyhow one gets a headache arguing with a post and thankfully BA with the prompting and representation of some pretty high profile ex players and people with basketball pedigree have stepped in to smooth over this latest debacle from Mr. Burns and Homer. Wonder how much longer he can last and how soon we can get the high profile people with knowledge and pedigree in the game into his job?!

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I have 3 kids happily go through the Qld rep programme and a 4th looking interested in basketball as well and I know there are 100s of families out there living the exact same scenario as myself year after year culminating in the Qld State Classics Titles. There is that old saying if aint broke dont fix it. However I do feel the current format has become a bit stale and needs some type of rejuvenation and this NZ spark at the U14 girls classics seems to have been a great fire starter of ideas. In recent years Qld have had great success with State teams performance at national champs and record numbers of Aussie reps lets give BQ a chance to try new things. Lets move forward and try keep in step or even step ahead of the other states. I know we parents spend thousands of dollars every year but it keeps our kids healthy, off the streets and most of all they love it and so do we thats why we do it.

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nyhow one gets a headache arguing with a post and thankfully BA with the prompting and representation of some pretty high profile ex players and people with basketball pedigree have stepped in to smooth over this latest debacle from Mr. Burns and Homer.

actually BA and BQ both sanctioned the team to come in the first place. Without the blessing of both they would not have been able too.

There is no debacle. If anything look in the mirror for where the debacle is coming from, yourself for being so closed minded too seeing what both BA and BQ were trying too accomplish.

The only smoothing over that needed to be done was to stop "parents' from cyring ..and I'm guessing no matter what .. parents will always cause a 'debacle'. IF NZ weren't here it would have been something else.

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How Wrong Wrong Wrong and self serving you are!
You just dont get it that people pay big money and time to develop their kids through the State's peak body system only to see those opportunities given away to random wildcatters by a manager who is clearly out of his depth. Just what does/has/will the Waikato basketball club contribute to junior basketball in queensland either financially or by way of provision and training of volunteers, officials, scoretable personnel? Just where did they pay their dues to be allowed to take a Div I spot away from Queensland kids at theirown state championships?
Anyhow one gets a headache arguing with a post and thankfully BA with the prompting and representation of some pretty high profile ex players and people with basketball pedigree have stepped in to smooth over this latest debacle from Mr. Burns and Homer. Wonder how much longer he can last and how soon we can get the high profile people with knowledge and pedigree in the game into his job?!

What a sad opinion you have, trying to squash an obviously well trained, disciplined team from extending their talent here. How priviledged are we here-- to have this team look and WANT to participate in this competition, allowing our Qld u14 girls teams to play against them. Haven't the teams that have played the Waikato team gained anything from the experience? Let these teams come to Qld to help promote and develop basketball. With the crash of the Bullets we need all the promoting and support with our beloved bball in Qld. Get behind the sport, stop being so selfish -don't kill it. "Where is the love"

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At a guess I'd reckon this came from someone whose team plays in the other pool and didnt get knocked out (both physically and out of the competition) by the marauding Kiwi team. Does your team actually get a leg up by not having to play one of the better teams eliminated by this group? Can understand why your impressed with their lovely little gifts and stuff. Anyway, when Queensland teams have to play a qualifying tournament for the privledge of playing DIV 1 and having their parents drive them all around SEQ for 20 weeks paying and paying some more along the way, it just isnt right that a team from whatamatabro or wherever can turn up and make a mockery of Queensland Basketball's State Championships.
There's plenty of invitational and streetball tournaments down south and even on the Gold Coast for random teams to enter in if they need the competition. Certainly no other State allows them to supercede the paying membership of their State Association at State Championships time.

SOUR GRAPES bringeth the fall. Sounds like you're a parent that shouldn't be in this team sport. That teaches sportsmanship, self discipline, sacrifice, teamwork, along with many other lost traits in todays society. Get a grip on reality and follow your kids' example make a friend or two at the games and you'll be a much happier individual. "CHEERS BO"

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All in all i think its a joke (on bq's behalf) if an NZ team wins the QLD State Championship. Imagine it, State champions for qld is a NZ team. Makes a mokery out of what most teams are chasing all year and why most teams are competing at the classics. For bq's sake i hope townsville or someone can beat them.

We obviosuly need some clear indication from bq as to what exactly the purpose of the classics is. Actually it is probably written somewhere??

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What a mockery this will be the first time in history that a country repeat country will be going for gold against a queensland team in queensland state classics. What a Joke!!!!!!!!!!!!
If thats what they saying it is a privilege its not our queenslanders play in BQ for 4 months to train for this for what so they can take the gold away from us.

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Congratulations to the Logan girls for making nationals. Moving forward in leaps and bounds for such a young association. Well done to Mark Dalton especially in securing a wnbl license for Logan City.

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Congratulations to the Logan girls for making nationals. Moving forward in leaps and bounds for such a young association. Well done to Mark Dalton especially in securing a wnbl license for Logan City.

Please this is a gag statement, Logan needs to toughen up, the team made third possie because noone else was good enough. Give the wnbl line a break, we're all over it. And we're not that 'young' an association anymore.... we've past the teething stages.

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The Logan girls are tough its their skills and shooting they need to work on you idiot.

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I think it is great that the NZ team is in the competition. How can teams improve if they play the same people all the time. I understand that some people's noses are out of joint because their team did not get the chance to play in the final. To be the best, you have to play teams that are better than you and strive to beat them. Southern Districts lost to this team in the round. They no doubt will try to reverse this outcome in the final. Instead of whinging and whining about the unfairness of BQ's decision to allow NZ in the competition, be grateful that your girls have had the opportunity to play them and hopefully learn something.

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I think it is great that the NZ team is in the competition. How can teams improve if they play the same people all the time. I understand that some people's noses are out of joint because their team did not get the chance to play in the final. To be the best, you have to play teams that are better than you and strive to beat them. Southern Districts lost to this team in the round. They no doubt will try to reverse this outcome in the final. Instead of whinging and whining about the unfairness of BQ's decision to allow NZ in the competition, be grateful that your girls have had the opportunity to play them and hopefully learn something.
Yeh sure. After all the standard of NZ basketball is so much higher than in Australia....??? If they are so good why didnt they just nominate and play at the Australian U/14 Nationals? (Maybe BA have more respect for their paying membership? Maybe they couldnt slip under the age requirement radar?)
The Coffs Harbour Invitational and the Melbourne Invitational plus any of the other invitational tournaments and Horizon tours are the place to play if you feel you need to play teams from other countries without proof of age. Not at the Queensland State Championships.

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Grow up your sooks, maybe like the Wallabies you need a kiwi coach for your kids haha

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Probably because parents in the NZ team have come from QLD and were the ones who brought forth the idea .
Sad that parents are always the ones who ruin anything to do with kids sports.
Then register, contribute and play in the State competitions like all the other teams have to before qualifying for Classics. What happened to the old "players must be registered members of Basketball Queensland" and teams must qualify for Div I through the wildcard challenge? Did they have to supply refs and scoretable people like the QLD Associations? Yep you NZ parents who "come from QLD" certainly have tainted U/14 basketball for a number of Queensland kids, coaches volunteers and parents.

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Are you for real. How can we expect to be competitive with the other states in Australia if we can not beat a NZ team. 3 teams are going to Nationals to play where they will compete against girls that are of comparable height, size and ability to the NZ girls. Learn from this experience so that you are better prepared. At least 2 of the teams have had the opportunity to play against a stronger and bigger team and hopefully they will be able to use this and get a slight insight into what they will encounter at Nationals.
Good Luck Spartans!!

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Yeh sure. After all the standard of NZ basketball is so much higher than in Australia....??? If they are so good why didnt they just nominate and play at the Australian U/14 Nationals? (Maybe BA have more respect for their paying membership? Maybe they couldnt slip under the age requirement radar?)
The Coffs Harbour Invitational and the Melbourne Invitational plus any of the other invitational tournaments and Horizon tours are the place to play if you feel you need to play teams from other countries without proof of age. Not at the Queensland State Championships.

UNBELIEVABLE. With whinging whining members such as you no wonder BQ junior basketball is so antiquated and behind the minimal bball standard. Give it a rest and accept that Qld bball needs a huge shot of tequila in the arm. These girls have come from NZ to play ball, accept the defeat and learn from it. CONGRATULATIONS TO ALL THE TEAMS WHO PLACED, WAIKATO, SPARTANS, LOGAN AND TOWNSVILLE.

Thanks Logan for a spectacular well run event.

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If Waikato had lost every game I wonder if the same negativity would have emerged.
If we are improve the standard of our junior basketball we should welcome the competition that they provide.Surely, this is how we improve.
I wonder how many coaches of Under 14 will change their team preparation for next year if they knew Waikato was coming again!!!
I hope you do Waikato !! BQ please keep the doors open to these teams-the fresh competition and the interest it brings is great!and our kids learn to play better basketball!!!!

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Coaches can only do so much it really boils down to how skilled, drilled and disciplined the players are and most important playing as a team. There were a few players who looked like they were playing for themselves and individual stats.

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Its simple, if your going to invite interstate or intercountry teams to compete at our classics, then dont call it a state championship, cause its just another tournament. State classics are spose to be for qlds elite teams to battle it out for top honors. Im sure BQ is embarased by the fact that a non- qld team won the qld championship, and if they are not they should be.

2ndly cairns and townsville came very close to beating the Waikato team so i guess teams could learn alot from playing townsville and Cairns aswell. You south teams are obviously just bored of playing each other. So dont carry on about being gratefull for the competetion.

Lastly there are rules about nominating for classics, why are they ignored.

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Firstly let me congratulate Waikato on their final performance. They were awesome. Our girls were simply too small and too tired to compete with the overall strength and height of the Waikato team in the final. They deserved the tournament win having beaten every team they played.

Now to address some of the issues that have been raised on here regarding the classics. (I expect to get slapped around the head on here in future posts)

NZ nominated into our Classics, paid the same money as every other Association, and were told that they could win the gold medal by BQ. They also declared to BQ that they were the current NZ National Champions. They didn't hide anything. As for the players ages, surely we must trust the NZ officials and not allude or discredit them by asserting the girls were too old for these classics. We unequivocally accept the NZ girls were all age eligible.

That said, I have been to numerous classics and have never had to confront international teams. I’m not saying that they should or shouldn’t have been there but surely the participating Qld associations should have received some notice of their entry into this years classics before the draw came out.

I have never been to a classics where the draw has changed significantly at the end of Day 3. To make the final every Qld team had to win 2 games, NZ only had to win one game to get to the final. At the end of the round games, Townsville were also undefeated like NZ but for them to reach the grand final they would have had to beat us and then Logan.

We attended these classics to win, to be the best team in Qld.

We didn’t win but we are the number 1 Qld team for Nationals. We got a silver medal yet our players, managers, coaches and parents are gutted.

It’s hard to express how disappointing it was for our girls to be the best Qld team at the 2008 Qld Classics and receive no acknowledgement whatsoever.

Tell me to harden up – I don’t care.

In the end NZ were without doubt the best team there this week and we learnt a lot playing against them. The NZ girls are superb athletes they played tough but with exemplary sportsmanship. The coaching staff and team management were also tremendous ambassadors for NZ and obviously very talented themselves.

To the NZ supporters – you guys were awesome. The atmosphere you created has been missing from our classics for years.

Congratulations Waikato deserved winners. Congrats also to Logan and Townsville for making the Nationals in Gawler.

Finally to the Logan staff and volunteers, thanks for producing a superb tournament. It was exceptionally well run with all tournament staff being approachable and obliging. Thanks to the referees you did a great job and were extremely professional all week.

Okay – let the head slapping begin.

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I don't think any head slapping is needed .. that was a well thought out and heartfelt post .. ONe that did not put down the NZ Team .. and gave them their dues.

The NZ team just came too play and were quite willing too pull out of the comp when it was discovered they could play and get to the finals unbeaten. If the draw was done as it was meant too it meant that a team might have missed a qualifying game for the nationals. Which is why the 2nd game was inserted for the QLD top 2 teams from each pool got to play off against each other. Which is why the QLD teams played an extra game. so they could sort out the national qualifiers.

Anyone who went too yesterdays game would have to agree the atmosphere was awesome. Didn't even expect the anthems to be played .. tears in the eyes for both anthems. It was great too see the supporters on both sides getting into it .. I think the supporters way outdid what some of the ABA games get ..

The salutes from both teams at the end of the game nearly brought tears to the eyes too.

Spartans girls took the loss graciously.

There is nothing wrong with being gutted by a loss. As long as one does not follow it up with bad sportsmanship. Which Spartans didn't do.

Paying my $4 entry for the whole of the tournament was well worth the money !

GO Spartans and Townsville and Logan at the nationals. Hope you all do well and learn from the experience from playing NZ as too what you might encounter.

One thing though, that I wondered was. The game before div 1 finals. The Spartans 2nd team were playing for their life in the Div 2 finals. Most of the Spartan supporters for the Div 1's were there already for the next game, yet didn't seem to bat an eyelid that their 2nd team was playing. Would have been nice too see support for them, coming from those supporters.

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Sad day for basketball in QLD.

To train for nearly 11 months in an effort to call yourself QLD champions only for a team to appear in the tournament from another country is an extremely poor thing. To be the #1 team in QLD and not be State champions or get to celebrate as State champions is going to hurt, I feel for those in that position.

Having the NZ team play in the tournament is not going to do anything for the betterment of QLD basketball, it could possible have the opposite effect of disenchanting many people.


It should be noted that interstate teams have sought application to attend Classics in the past but they have been rejected. Other tournaments sometimes bring in invitational teams at the last minute, to fill a hole in the draw however these teams games dont count.
To completely ignore the rules of the competition is crazy, however that is typical BQ.
To be rearranging and changing the draw in the middle of the tournament is again a very poor reflection on the management of QLD basketball.


It should be remember that BQ and Burns in particular wanted to hold two classics in the same year. Was the top job at BQ ever advertised or did Burns just get moved up into it. His lack of understand is threatening the sport here.

Clearly we now need a proper State championships that the top 6 teams in the State attends (top 3 south, top 2 north, top central).

Classics is a great tournament, expensive, good fundraiser for BQ, would be great to have interstate and international teams playing in such a tournament every year. If this was played early to mid season ie Mar/April school holidays, then QLD teams would get the benefit of playing different teams, styles, and hopefully stronger teams and have a chance to go away and learn from it and come back stronger later in our season.

I am sure that the BQ staff and the regional propagandists will try and tell everyone it is a great thing that it happened.

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I wouldn't read anything into the fact that the Spartans Div 1 parents and friends were quiet during the Div 2 girls final. Whilst trying to stay positive for our girls, most knew what the NZ team was about to unleash on us in the final and that we would rank 1 in Qld for Nationals but only get a silver medal. Passionate parents disappointed for their kids.

I have no doubt that every Spartans person at the game was very proud of the Div 2 girls finals success. I just think our support base was a little bit jaded.

Great effort by the Titan girls and their coaching staff, it was a well earned win that you had all worked very hard for.

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What ? so they were dissapointed before the game even started that they would lose ?.. interesting hope they didn't say as much to the girls ! before they got on the court .. shish

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What ? so they were dissapointed before the game even started that they would lose ?.. interesting hope they didn't say as much to the girls ! before they got on the court .. shish

Why don't you pull your head in if you have nothunf positive to say about 13 year old girls.

You are a total boofhead.

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The 3 Qld teams will meet much stronger teams at the National Club championships. This was just a sniff of what they can expect. It would appear that the most prolific scorers in the Logan and Spartans teams are their very talented guards... but.... against stronger and bigger teams, the 'bigs' of the team need to perform. The coaches of both teams will need to look at this and adjust their strategies and tactics or otherwise they will get thumped.

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Why don't you pull your head in if you have nothunf positive to say about 13 year old girls.

You are a total boofhead.

oh geeze .. totally supportive of the girls ! it appears it's the parents that are a boofheads ..

All this crying about the NZ girls taking "OUR GOLD" and "WE WERE GIVEN THE SILVER" .. get a reality check .. you boofheads ..

The NZ Team didn't "take" your gold . After winning every game, they should have been playing off for first straight away in the finals .. but no they had to play the loser of Spartans and Townsville quarters, to make it to the final playoff.

Townsville gave an awesome fight and nearly took the game out .. Miraculously the NZ girls found something and got the game by only a few points. They fought their way to the finals, they weren't given anything.

If Spartans went into that final with the mindset that they were being GIVEN SILVER and if their parents already had that mindset and were relaying it to the girls before hand .. then that is where the boofheads are.

IF Spartans didn't want silver .. all they had to do was WIN. NZ aren't invincible they are just Under 14 year old girls like every other team that was in that comp ..

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Where was Mr Brynes on finals day?

After meeting with coaches and agreement reached on changes to the draw the broad shoulded CEO changed it again without consulation. I seriously doubt that he has the power to do this?

Well done NZ but lets return the QLD state classics to just that....The QLD State Classics where the medals are presented to QLD teams.

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BQ were represented at the finals .. Mr Byrnes is not all of BQ .. and hard to believe but there actually were other classics also being played ..

The change to the drawer actually gave the QLD teams another chance to boot out the NZ Team .. so BQ should be thanked.

Good luck at nationals ! Everyone !

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oh geeze .. totally supportive of the girls ! it appears it's the parents that are a boofheads ..

All this crying about the NZ girls taking "OUR GOLD" and "WE WERE GIVEN THE SILVER" .. get a reality check .. you boofheads ..

The NZ Team didn't "take" your gold . After winning every game, they should have been playing off for first straight away in the finals .. but no they had to play the loser of Spartans and Townsville quarters, to make it to the final playoff.

Townsville gave an awesome fight and nearly took the game out .. Miraculously the NZ girls found something and got the game by only a few points. They fought their way to the finals, they weren't given anything.

If Spartans went into that final with the mindset that they were being GIVEN SILVER and if their parents already had that mindset and were relaying it to the girls before hand .. then that is where the boofheads are.

IF Spartans didn't want silver .. all they had to do was WIN. NZ aren't invincible they are just Under 14 year old girls like every other team that was in that comp ..



OMG you can not be serious. NZ were good I'll admit that, but they should never have been able to win classics. The idea of 2 finals was probably the best because then we can have a Queensland winner and NZ get their chance to win a medal.

NZ are not from Queensland and the whole title of classics is Queensland State Classics and since NZ is not apart of Queensland they should never have won. It was also unfair about the semi final set up. Why should the likes of Townsville and Southern Districts have to win another 2 games to make it to the final and NZ only have to win 1.

Another thing, NZ was a national team who recruited the MVP of the whole NZ nationals before they came over? This girl was in a Massey team no later than January so they can not say she has always been in their team.

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OMG you can not be serious.
Another thing, NZ was a national team who recruited the MVP of the whole NZ nationals before they came over? This girl was in a Massey team no later than January so they can not say she has always been in their team.
Is it correct that the Kiwis do their age groups different than here? i.e. In QLD and Australia you need to be born 1995 or 96 to be U/14 in 2008. In NZ you can be born 1994 and still be classified as U/14 in 2008? Be a scream to see Pam or Donna take our QLD STH girls over there next year and play in the Waikato Regional championships, wipe the field by 30+ and then tell NZ basketball they should feel lucky for the privledge of an aussie team winning their local comp...

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Give it up already they won fair and square their ages were verified and passed by BQ and BA what more do you want blood?

What sore losers and the most whinging parents ever thats right I almost forgot a few of you aussies are descendants of the whinging poms makes sense.

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Give it up already they won fair and square their ages were verified and passed by BQ and BA what more do you want blood?

What sore losers and the most whinging parents ever thats right I almost forgot a few of you aussies are descendants of the whinging poms makes sense.
Very classy. Mr Burns would be proud of you.

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Very classy. Mr Burns would be proud of you.

You must have broad shoulders and don't care, just like the CEO of Basketball Queensland - as this was his answer to everyone that asked him a question during classics. Very intelligent answer, somebody who has BROAD SHOULDERS AND DOESN'T CARE should not hold this position.

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I don't believe the situation was handled correctly by BQ........however, learn from it and move on. If approched by NZ teams in the future, why not arrange a tour for them that allows them to play the best teams in the south, then they travel north and play the best up there in what could be a practice game for us and some quality competition for them. No medals, just a friendly international for all the players. Keep the Qld Classics as they have always been, let us have our state champions......and battle to the death for nationals births. Knowing after round games before any cross-overs that you already have a finals birth like Townsville and SD did this year, loses that tradition of sweating it out until the end...

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I don't believe the situation was handled correctly by BQ........however, learn from it and move on. If approched by NZ teams in the future, why not arrange a tour for them that allows them to play the best teams in the south, then they travel north and play the best up there in what could be a practice game for us and some quality competition for them. No medals, just a friendly international for all the players. Keep the Qld Classics as they have always been, let us have our state champions......and battle to the death for nationals births. Knowing after round games before any cross-overs that you already have a NATIONALS birth like Townsville and SD did this year, loses that tradition of sweating it out until the end...

I meant NATIONALS birth

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Some of you parents are a pack of SORE LOSERS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Firstly, its only UNDER 14's so you can just RELAX!!!! It is supposed to be about the girls being able to participate, enjoy it and have fun - not have to worry about the "WHAT COULD HAVE BEENS" that you parents are harping on about!!!!

Secondly, NZ won FAIR AND SQUARE! Handle it and GET OVER IT!!! You obviously invited them over, thinking that 'there's no way in HELL that a NZ team will beat an Australian team' so GOOD JOB!!! Good work on NZ's behalf and by the sounds of things - they deserved it! If you wanted to win the gold so bad... THEN DONT LOSE A GAME!!!!!

Thirdly, The criteria for 'age groups' is exactly the same as it is done in Australia. NZ changed the system to match with the Aussies because of tournaments such as the 'KORU'S' etc... so if you are now trying to BLAME the fact that they won on "THE GIRLS WERE IN THE WRONG AGE GROUP" you can think again!! What will it be next? They were on steroids????

And lastly, I know that it was not a NEW ZEALAND NATIONAL TEAM! Its not even a STATE team!!! It was merely a group of basketball girls, who worked their butts of fundraising and trying to raise enough money to come over to queensland to play in this tournament.

CALM YOUR UNDIES DOWN... stop getting your knickers in a TWIST!!

Basketball is the winner at the end of the day ;)

"GO THE TITANS!!!"

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Amen to that !

calm your undies down .. haha

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Stuff the Titans!

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Another thing, NZ was a national team who recruited the MVP of the whole NZ nationals before they came over? This girl was in a Massey team no later than January so they can not say she has always been in their team.[/QUOTE]

Would love to know where you get your info from?

It appears that they do the same that we do over here. You can not tell me that 'kids' do not swap and change associatoins over here... if you think that way, your head must be in the clouds, or you have tunnel vision.......

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And they also approached playersfrom QLD teams to join their team for a tour of NZ later in the year. What happened to developing local talent and giving your bench a run?

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This classics controversy has run its course, tis boring now. Lets just see how the qld teams do at nationals. To be honest for most of the players going to the U14 nationals it will probably be their first and last nationals. So well done girls - make the most of it.

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would like to know who are the top 10 players in queensland after these classics

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Another thing, NZ was a national team who recruited the MVP of the whole NZ nationals before they came over? This girl was in a Massey team no later than January so they can not say she has always been in their team.

Would love to know where you get your info from?

It appears that they do the same that we do over here. You can not tell me that 'kids' do not swap and change associatoins over here... if you think that way, your head must be in the clouds, or you have tunnel vision.......[/QUOTE]

I agree didn't Logan happen to acquire a top player from Bay to put in their already strong Rep team?

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would like to know who are the top 10 players in queensland after these classics

does any body know who the top 10/12 players for the girls in queensland after these classics. would like to know?

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Would love to know where you get your info from?

It appears that they do the same that we do over here. You can not tell me that 'kids' do not swap and change associatoins over here... if you think that way, your head must be in the clouds, or you have tunnel vision.......

I agree didn't Logan happen to acquire a top player from Bay to put in their already stront acquire a top player from Logan she actually left Runaway Bay


Well Logan didn't actually acquire a top player from Bay this girl left because she was very unhappy!

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Well Logan didn't actually acquire a top player from Bay this girl left because she was very unhappy![/QUOTE]


From what I hear Bay were more than happy to see her leave!

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There is an interesting article about the u14 girls spartans team on the couriermail website today im not sure if it is in todays paper.

http://www.news.com.au/couriermail/story/0,23739,24061007-10389,00.html

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Yeah its on page 14 of todays paper. Great exposure for Basketball Qld.

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Alan Laedwig is lucky to have held so many classics in the substandard stadium or the sandpit and the food his canteen supplies would hardly nourish a fly let alone upcoming elite athletes.

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Yeah its on page 14 of todays paper. Great exposure for Basketball Qld.

i hope you're being sarcastic! its terrible exposure... just makes Spartans look like sooks and then they bag BQ saying its 'not a democratic sport'. All sports are the same, there's a governing body and clubs/associations play under them... what's so different about basketball in Queensland?

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Cause he's right

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Alan Laedwig is lucky to have held so many classics in the substandard stadium or the sandpit and the food his canteen supplies would hardly nourish a fly let alone upcoming elite athletes.

The food at Southern Districts Spartans isnt supposed to nourish elite athletes! its for the guests! And elite athletes are not forced to eat this stuff and can eat what they like!!

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i hope you're being sarcastic! its terrible exposure... just makes Spartans look like sooks and then they bag BQ saying its 'not a democratic sport'. All sports are the same, there's a governing body and clubs/associations play under them... what's so different about basketball in Queensland?


Well done Allan for exposing BQ management for what they really are.

Another episode of breaking the rules to suit themselves.

I wonder how many of their members realise where their fees are actually going to?, such as fees for state players travelling interstate who say they can't affored to go!

Time to replace the current trash with some honest and ethical staff.

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It would appear that everyone seems to be missing the point with the U14 Classics, by all means invite teams from elsewhere to participate but make sure everyone is quite clear of the final outcome well before the competition starts, not as happened with changes to the rules happening during the week of the classics right up to the day/night before the semi finals! The Div 1 competition is considered the Qld club championships at this age, showcasing the best young basketballers in the State and they should be given recognition for the time and effort they put in during the season and at the Classics. Let invited teams compete but reward the Qld teams with gold, silver and bronze and proper acknowledgement. The team that won beat all of the other Qld teams and should be given recognition as Qld champions. I for one enjoyed the basketball I saw during the week and I also enjoyed seeing a number of the NZ & Spartans girls hugging each other, talking and laughing together after all the presentations had finished and many had left the stadium. Well done to all the girls from all divisions who participated!

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The change of rules at the Classics was to allow the team in the NZ pool who came third a chance to play off for a chance to go to Nationals. The right thing to do but should have been thought through prior to the draw being done. The Classics Tournament was won by NZ, they were the best team. Spartans were the best Qld team but did not win the tournament. All the girls who played against the NZ team are better for the experience playing against better players. Big fish little pond or little fish bigger pond. They will grow! Its about development.

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Nearly 2 weeks have passed since the Classics, and all I can hear is 'SD Spartans' still carrying on and using the media to 'cry out' we have been robbed what should have been 'theirs'.

Once again, if they had beaten the NZ team, they would have been given the GOLD....

As usual the media print what they want you to hear..... I didn't see Alan Ladwieg at the girls classics once, and I heard reports that hosting the U14 boys classics was not as successful as Logan...when are you going to move on?

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Nearly 2 weeks have passed since the Classics, and all I can hear is 'SD Spartans' still carrying on and using the media to 'cry out' we have been robbed what should have been 'theirs'.

Once again, if they had beaten the NZ team, they would have been given the GOLD....

As usual the media print what they want you to hear..... I didn't see Alan Ladwieg at the girls classics once, and I heard reports that hosting the U14 boys classics was not as successful as Logan...when are you going to move on?

How pathetic is that to use those girls photo with such a 'sour grapes' whinge. My goodness get a grip on reality and accept what has become great history. You weren't there Allan... AT ALL...maybe coaching at Spartans needs a shakeup so next time the SD girls win! Let's not lose all intergrity in our beloved sport, accept defeat graciously thats the true mark of champions.

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enough

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Congratulations to the Spartans U14 girls who recently received gold medals from BQ acknowledging them as State Champions for 2008

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My recollection is that Spartans lost the final by 32 to a team from Waikato. So to get a gold medal for coming 2nd by a long away is pretty sad.

[Spartans]

Spartans have medals saying they are the State Champions.

They were beaten by a NZ team everyone agrees.

The Board BQ have apologised to them for the error in judgement. Best we all move on.

Spartans will be seeded as the number one Queensland team at Australian National Championship. Townsville second and Logan third.

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Congratulations to the Spartans U14 girls who recently received gold medals from BQ acknowledging them as State Champions for 2008

Just shows what can be achieved if you stamp you feet and sulk enough!

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Just shows what can be achieved if you stamp you feet and sulk enough!

BQ Enewsletter had the following From the CEO - Case Closed!

I would also like to make a comment in relation to the PWP Waikato team that won the Under 14 Girls State Classics. Whilst I don't want to take anything away from this team I would like to apologise for the error in judgement we made in allowing this team to compete and ultimately win the competition.



Their participation is allowed under the current rules which state that "Basketball Queensland reserves the right to invite interstate/overseas team to compete". Having said this, in hindsight, we should have acknowledged Southern Districts as the State Champions, something that we are now rectifying.



I would; therefore, like to apologise to the girls and the team management for this oversight and hope that they can move on from this and do well at the Under 14 National Club Championships.



The Board has discussed this issue and as a consequence have made changes to the State Classics rules which means that interstate/overseas teams can compete in the State Classics; however, they can not compete in Division 1.



We believe that competition against stronger teams should be encouraged so we will endeavour to introduce additional tournaments where these teams can compete against Queensland teams. This will not be a State Championship; but it will be the highest level of competition we can attain and there will be no restrictions on Non-Queensland teams and their ability to win the Tournament.

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Just shows what can be achieved if you stamp you feet and sulk enough!

Enough!!!! Who's the sooky, sulking one now. Let it rest would ya from 1 kiwi to another bro...
you're acting like a child! Just as well we're all mature adults here and the real children can't see their role models behaving in such a manner. Move on bro.

Good on ya Spartans, good luck at Nationals.

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Enough!!!! Who's the sooky, sulking one now. Let it rest would ya from 1 kiwi to another bro...
you're acting like a child! Just as well we're all mature adults here and the real children can't see their role models behaving in such a manner. Move on bro.

Good on ya Spartans, good luck at Nationals.

I am most definitely not a Kiwi ! How dare you make such a presumption

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I am most definitely not a Kiwi ! How dare you make such a presumption

All the more reason to grow up and accept the outcome graciously.

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All the more reason to grow up and accept the outcome graciously.
Touche! That's GOLD!

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Touche! That's GOLD!

Cheers, bro.

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All the more reason to grow up and accept the outcome graciously.

Perhaps this suggestion would be better directed to the Spartans hierarchy

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How do we think Logan Spartans and Townsville will go at nationals?

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How do we think Logan Spartans and Townsville will go at nationals?

Hope all teams do well. Good luck girls, do yourselves and QLD proud.
Anyone have any thoughts on the upcoming season, player movements, coaches etc?
Will there be a standout team at the grading tournament?

[Coach B]

I think that there is only 3 teams in it, Logan, Spartans and BBI. Far too much talent in these clubs. BBI a little unknown to me. But Spartans bigs very strong, Logans got a really quick team with a few state players. They will shoot the lights out all game, even if they cant get inside Spartans bigs.

Should be a great season. Cant wait.

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I think that there is only 3 teams in it, Logan, Spartans and BBI. Far too much talent in these clubs. BBI a little unknown to me. But Spartans bigs very strong, Logans got a really quick team with a few state players. They will shoot the lights out all game, even if they cant get inside Spartans bigs.

Should be a great season. Cant wait.

Most of logans players have moved up to 16s but yeah it will be an interesting season with Shelley coaching the girls instead of Larry.

[Coach B]

From what I have seen, Shelley is a fantastic coach and has a great bunch of girls to work with this season. They already look like they have geled well as a few of the girls went to State schools together with Met East. They have good shooters, great ball handlers and are showing a few great combinations in games. Their defense is very tenatious and I think teams will struggle to get the ball to the right end of the court.

As for last years girls, thats what they are, Last years team. I congradulate them for their season but they are now U16. Let the current side prove themselves, and see how they go. Either way I know they will enjoy the season win, lose or draw.

Coach B:hifive: