QABL - Week 3

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Time for Week 3. All discussion goes here.

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April 30, 2008

THE Rockhampton Stadium Nightclub Rockets and the NBL powerhouse the Brisbane Bullets are set to join forces opening an unprecedented pathway to the top for the region's best basketball talent. Rockhampton Basketball operations manager Jamie Boon yesterday confirmed the two bodies had "held tentative discussions" about the prospect of setting up a feeder-club agreement in the coming months. The news comes after rising Rockets star Stephen Weigh put pen to paper with the Bullets on Monday for the 2008-09 NBL season

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Maroochydoore vs Rockhampton
I am going to tip Rocky in a close one here. They looked decent enough last week in there first up hit out and will only get better with the americans on board. Rocky by 4

Townsville vs Brisbane
Townsville not the team that they have been in the past and I really dont think that they will get through the year unscathed like they did last year. In saying that mind you, Brisbane dont offer a lot and will rely heavily on Peddie and Korst to do the bulk of everything. Tipping Townsville by 25.

Logan vs Rockhampton
Logan are looking decent enough this year and have a pretty decent big with there import. Logan to get the nod by about 12

Toowoomba vs South West
Toowoomba at home on the mountain where it will probably be around minus 6!! The pirates looked slightly better last week but were never a threat to Townsville. I dont think they will be able to stop the Toowoomba import and will lose by ten. Long season for the pirates.

Cairns vs Brisbane
Cairns with nothing in 08.... Brisbane to split there road double and win by 6.

Mackay vs Ipswich
Experience goes a hell of a long way in this league and Mackay have plenty of it with Mcgrath and WIlson playing plenty of minutes. Ipswich are well drilled but will not be able to stop the Mackay experience. Ipswich will toil all the way but I am picking Mackay by 12

Gold Coast vs Caboolture
Good luck to Caboolture trying to stop the twin towers of Stubbs and Abbott. Coast by 20.

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i've made some money so far this season an this rd seems looks like being no different heres my 2 cents on rd 3

Dore v Rocky
im just going to say it now so no-one gets offended rocky will be 1-1 odds maximum for the rest of the season unless playin POD even then odds wont go much higher.. you heard it here folks i'll say it now there will be 3 POD teams in semi's come july/august.. sorry Clips $100 on Rocky

Rocky 1:1 Clips 15:1

tville v Brissie
heat showed jus how vunerable this team is by being made to walk the plank last week and caps lost me $ last week as well... but heat havent lost a friday night home game since Iwaniki was a school of excellence student in the 90's.. $15 on heat

Heat 3:1 Caps 5:1

Logan v Rocky
1-2 isnt the start logan were hopin for but even dead tired after closin Fridays down night before i dont see Weigh being stopped an if he is Rhys or Ben or a scott brother will get the points needed to take this one home. green will use his latern an get a trip dub an broome will win the dunk in the warm up but thats all the crowd will enjoy unless they go for rocky.. $100 on rocky..

Rocky 1:1 Logan 13:1

Twmba v SW
Game of the week... the boys love playing together up on brokeback mountain... an if Gurney can ride em to victory again it'l be partytime with 3-0 start to the season... i think brown will get a dunk an 2 blocks in his 10mins of playing time an be only import to not start in the comp.. but surprise package pirates to be too quick for the cowboys an stay at the top of pool C.. $10 on Pirates

SW 2:1 Neers 3:1

Cairns v Brissie
noone beats the bigfish in their own tank (ok maybe mackay did an it may happen again before season end) but its still one of the toughest road trips in the country.. 2 casinos all those backpackers/tourists and a uni with a 2-1 female to male ratio that along with having to concentrate on basketball will be too much for the young virile caps an most other teams lucky enough to have this double header.. $20 on Marlins

Cairns 3:1 Caps 5:1

Mkay v Ippy
with Ippy already gettin free entry an cheap basics at Main St this Satnite they have already had their win.. they cover mkay ok in most positions except in depth but with Spacerocks home crowd goin nuts i glad the boys have some consolidation... $50 on Mkay

Mkay 2:1 Ippy 7:1

GC v Cab
Jett player of the week seems to be adding more then Rhys did last year with his added size will it be enough for them to beat the lizards tho.. this will show the suns true prospects for the year.. bookies took my money last week wen i bet against them but i still think GC have the firepower to contain the hot headed suns... $20 on GC

GC 2:1 Suns 5:1

not to sure who the ballbag was that placed a bet after the games were played last rd but they need to be beforehand and if you would like to place a bet talk to my bookie in Vanautu on 06 54268975654.. all bets are in Vatu currency only.. enjoy your long weekend if you can..

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Week 3

Bundaberg Bulls Vs Bye
This will be a close one. With Bundaberg heading in as warm underdogs they should just get the points. Bundy by 3

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Week 3

Bundaberg Bulls Vs Bye
This will be a close one. With Bundaberg heading in as warm underdogs they should just get the points. Bundy by 3


nice talk wayne kerr, another no namer cant wait till the bulls play and beat your team but you obviously already beat yourself regularly as is

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nice talk wayne kerr, another no namer cant wait till the bulls play and beat your team but you obviously already beat yourself regularly as is

hahahaahahhahahaha WAYNE KERR ...

what a loser...who says that?? hhahaahahaha

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Rocky @ Maroochy - Looking forward to their second game, Rocky will give their benchies plenty of run, and still win comfortably. Rocky by 60.

Brisbane @ Townsville - The Caps is a spot of both with no inside game to speak of. They will be at the absolute mercy of he locals. Townsville by 25.

Rockhampton @ Logan - Thalo up against the team where he made his name. If both teams are at full strength (I note Wingding didn't play last week) then this won't be too bad a game. Wonder if Logan are disappointed that Heath is playing for the Caps, they could sure use him. ... or Al Cox wherever he is. Logan need all starters on song to get this one. Rocky by 15.

South West @ Toowoomba - Well well well who woulda thnk it. The undersized and undermanned Pirates knocking off Logan AND Townie to kick off the season. They are without Niesler and Kurt, and JC is playing poorly, yet they have posted two huge Ws. This is an intriguing game. The Neers are a different team at home, and have some momentum after a rousing comeback W away to Gladdy. Toowoomba by 6.

Brisbane @ Cairns - Not much to say here. How are the fish going with injuries? Cairns by 20.

Ipswich @ Mackay - Why is Ipswich travelling up north for just one game? Ridiculous. Ippy are capable of pulling an upset off, but with the way they're playing (disjointed, and like thugs by numerous reports) I don't think they're going to do it. Mackay by 12.

Caboolutre @ Gold Coast - Suns with a solid win at the Auchyshack last week, after an admirable loss to Mackay. Bryan Jett is the real deal. He will get huge numbers again, but I think the guard power the Coast has will get them over the line. Gold Coast by 9.

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Rocky @ Maroochy - Looking forward to their second game, Rocky will give their benchies plenty of run, and still win comfortably. Rocky by 60.

Brisbane @ Townsville - The Caps is a spot of both with no inside game to speak of. They will be at the absolute mercy of he locals. Townsville by 25.

Rockhampton @ Logan - Thalo up against the team where he made his name. If both teams are at full strength (I note Wingding didn't play last week) then this won't be too bad a game. Wonder if Logan are disappointed that Heath is playing for the Caps, they could sure use him. ... or Al Cox wherever he is. Logan need all starters on song to get this one. Rocky by 15.

South West @ Toowoomba - Well well well who woulda thnk it. The undersized and undermanned Pirates knocking off Logan AND Townie to kick off the season. They are without Niesler and Kurt, and JC is playing poorly, yet they have posted two huge Ws. This is an intriguing game. The Neers are a different team at home, and have some momentum after a rousing comeback W away to Gladdy. Toowoomba by 6.

Brisbane @ Cairns - Not much to say here. How are the fish going with injuries? Cairns by 20.

Ipswich @ Mackay - Why is Ipswich travelling up north for just one game? Ridiculous. Ippy are capable of pulling an upset off, but with the way they're playing (disjointed, and like thugs by numerous reports) I don't think they're going to do it. Mackay by 12.

Caboolutre @ Gold Coast - Suns with a solid win at the Auchyshack last week, after an admirable loss to Mackay. Bryan Jett is the real deal. He will get huge numbers again, but I think the guard power the Coast has will get them over the line. Gold Coast by 9.

Ippy like thugs? By what reports? If anything they are playing too soft not like thugs

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Power unit back on track with arrival of Stevenson from US (http://www.gladstoneobserver.com.au/storydisplay.cfm?storyid=3771298)
May 02, 2008

THE arrival of American import Celeste Stevenson has signalled positive things to come for the Yaralla Port City Power women's team in their second season playing in the Queensland Australian Basketball League.

Originally from Texas, Stevenson, 26, played college basketball for West Texas University and has also played for first division teams in Denmark, Luxembourg and has recently ended a four and a half month stint in Ulm, Germany.

A far cry from Germany, Gladstone is a bit more like home for Stevenson. Since her arrival last Saturday, the 180cm guard has formed a good first impression of the Harbour City and her new team.

"The weather here is lovely it is similar to Texas," she said.

"And the Power girls seem really team orientated and want to win which is something positive."

Contracted with the Power until August, Stevenson said her time with the team was an opportunity to visit Australia while doing something she loves.

Stevenson's arrival can only raise the hopes and aspirations of the budding women's team, who went down narrowly to Bundaberg and Toowoomba in the first two rounds of the league this season.

After her first team training on Tuesday, coach Steve Bowden said Celeste was a welcome addition, with her good temperament and infectious personality, not to mention her playing credibility.

"She will bring stability to our young team," he said.

It is hoped Stevenson will enhance and promote women's basketball in Gladstone as fellow import Michael Kingma did for the Power men's team, Bowden said.

Stevenson will make her debut against Townsville next Friday, at the Kev Broome Stadium.

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Cyclones forecast this season (http://www.themorningbulletin.com.au/storydisplay.cfm?storyid=3771331)
May 02, 2008

ROCKHAMPTON Hog's Breath Cafe Cyclones coach Matt Neason has forecast violent gusts on their two-game southern road trip, starting tonight against Maroochydore. The Cyclones mentor believes his young team can return home with two away wins, putting them in a good position before next weekend's showdown with reigning state and national champions Townsville. One player Neason is expecting to be at the forefront of the action in round three of the QABL this weekend is the team's new point guard Heidi Carlsen

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Clippers take aim at Rockets (http://www.thedaily.com.au/news/2008/may/02/clippers-take-aim-rockets/)
2 May 2008

When ladder order is determined by percentage-won, you get situations like this.

The Rockhampton Rockets currently sit atop the QABL basketball ladder, with a 100% win record.

A record that pales when you consider they’ve played only one match.

Then you have the Mackay Meteors, having won three from four, sitting in third.

It’s all a bit mixed up, but then again, it’s only early in the season, a fact the winless Maroochydore Clippers will be all the more thankful for.

With a 0-2 record to start the season, the Clippers will be looking to drag Rockhampton down from its perch when the sides meet at the Maroochydore Stadium at 8.15 tonight.

For Clippers forward Duncan Matheson, tonight is a double opportunity – for the Clippers to break their 2008 duck, and for him to assert himself as a senior member of the side.

While not overly pleased with his season to date, Matheson, 24, said he was more than willing to take on a leadership role in the team.

“I’m excited about that opportunity, but I was a bit disappointed about my first two games,” he said.

“My effort across the board wasn’t 100% – I can think back and say I could have done this differently, I could have done that better.”

Despite being his own toughest critic, Matheson said the team was progressing each week.

“For us, the scoreboard doesn’t say it, but last week was much better – if we can keep doing that, things are looking up,” he said.

“It was the team effort –- not one person could have put their hand up after Caloundra (in the first round) and said they played well and gave it everything, but for the Wizards, the young guys really stood up.”

While the Rockhampton side might only have the one win, Matheson said the Rockets were a quality outfit.

“They’ve only played the one, to go top of the table, but they are probably the most talented team in the league,” he said. “We’ve been struggling. We’ve played quality opposition and (tonight) won’t be any different.”

The Clippers women face a similar situation, meeting an undefeated, table-topping – again, from only one match – Rockhampton outfit at 6.30 tonight.

The ladies have had a mixed start to their 2008 campaign, coming into the third-round with a win and a loss.

They posted a convincing 93-53 victory over Northside at home last weekend, after going down by four, 45-41, in the season-opening local derby against Caloundra.

The Caloundra Suns travel to the Gold Coast tomorrow, with the women’s tip-off at 6.15pm, before the men at 8

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Townsville Flames keep up pressure (http://www.townsvillebulletin.com.au/article/2008/05/02/12731_sport.html)
02May08

TOWNSVILLE Flames will look to maintain the pressure on Brisbane at SeaFM Stadium tonight as they bid to maintain their unbeaten start to the QABL season.

Brisbane crumbled in the second half of their match against Caboolture last weekend going down 64-59, blowing a big second-half lead.

Townsville coach Mark Wrobel expected the Capitals to bounce back but was confident he had a winning game plan.

"The Brisbane girls are one (win) and one (loss), they will be pretty fired up for a win considering they threw away a 20-point lead last week after halftime," Wrobel said.

"We've picked up some notes from that.

"Apparently they didn't handle full-court pressure that well last week, which is high on our agenda."

The Flames finished with two wins on the road last weekend against Gold Coast (79-61) and South West (74-51) and were confident of continuing their winning streak to four at SeaFM Stadium tonight.

"As long as the girls play to their full potential we should win," Wrobel said.

Injury could be a worry for the Flames who will be missing one of their key players, Celeste Heilbronn, after she re-injured her back on the road last weekend.

Wrobel said they had made the decision to rest her for the next two-game road trip next weekend.

"Celeste basically flared up an injury from a few seasons ago and hasn't responded quick enough to play this weekend," Wrobel said.

"Cassie Dover will come into the starting five. She has been playing well for us off the bench.

"We have another young local having her first game with the team this weekend in Leticia Ward."

Wrobel said Brisbane players Julie Korst and Kaitlyn Pettie would be the ones to watch.

"The major player for us to focus on is Korst who is an experienced campaigner and has been around the ABA for some time," he said.

"Kaitlyn Pettie is also a good young player and I can imagine those two girls are going to be the ones we need to do a good job on.

"If we can shut them down it will make the win easier."

The Heat and coach Rob Rose will be looking to back up from a one-win, one-loss record on the road on the weekend when they take on 12th-placed Brisbane Capitals, who are yet to win this season.

"We're going to be confident no matter who we are playing," Rose said.

"Of course they (Brisbane) will be coming out hard (hoping for their first win) but we will be looking for our third win and that's what we are concerned about."

While Rose wasn't familiar with the Brisbane team, he was sure if the Heat played to their potential they could come out on top with a win.

"(We need to) take care of the ball, we must be committed to diving on loose balls because I think there are too many that are going to opposition hands," Rose said.

"We're always improving but we haven't been coming up with as much ball as I'd like."

The Heat may be without one of their star players, Michael Pappalardo, who injured his calf last weekend.

"I don't know if he's going to be playing tomorrow or not," Rose said.

"We have 12 players drafted for the game, minus Michael but I think Nate Tate will come up into the line-up."

Tip-off is at 6.30pm for the Flames and 8.30pm for the Heat.

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Townsville vs Brisbane
Townsville not the team that they have been in the past and I really dont think that they will get through the year unscathed like they did last year. In saying that mind you, Brisbane dont offer a lot and will rely heavily on Peddie and Korst to do the bulk of everything. Tipping Townsville by 25.

So which team is it you think will get the Flames this year. I still reckon it is daylight second, this Flames team hasnt started great, won their first 3 games straight with 2 on the road, and are undermanned at the moment. They are only going to get better! Might not be National Championship level but are definitely the favourites by a long way for the State Title.

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rocky wins 130 odd to 60 odd.. obviously maroochydore are having to try develop some young guns by giving them quality minutes. future looks bright.

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Whats going on with the t'ville mens team? First they drop one on the road to an undermanned South West and now tonight go down to the win Capitals at home? Pretty much the same line-up as last year minus Kelvin, Kruges and Luke Cann. New coach, new system not working? They have added some nice young players and Chris Cedar is contributing nicely in the PG role so far this season. But those two losses have to put a huge question mark when anyone is talking contenders for this year....

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Cyclones forecast this season (http://www.themorningbulletin.com.au/storydisplay.cfm?storyid=3771331)
May 02, 2008

ROCKHAMPTON Hog's Breath Cafe Cyclones coach Matt Neason has forecast violent gusts on their two-game southern road trip, starting tonight against Maroochydore. The Cyclones mentor believes his young team can return home with two away wins, putting them in a good position before next weekend's showdown with reigning state and national champions Townsville. One player Neason is expecting to be at the forefront of the action in round three of the QABL this weekend is the team's new point guard Heidi Carlsen
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Home at last and they're bouncing (http://www.dailymercury.com.au/storydisplay.cfm?storyid=3771443)

Mackay Meteors are taking tonight's first home game of the season against Ipswich very seriously.

"We're taking them as a dangerous team," 4MK Good Guys Meteors coach Leonard King said yesterday.

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Cox brings know-how (http://www.cairns.com.au/article/2008/05/03/3584_local-sport-news.html)

SHE might only be 28 but Opals guard Rohanee Cox accepts she will wear the veteran's tag when she debuts for the Cairns Dolphins against the Brisbane Capitals at Bendigo Basketball Centre in round three of the QABL tonight.

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Flames capitalise as Brisbane wilt (http://www.townsvillebulletin.com.au/article/2008/05/03/12769_sport.html)

CASSIE Dover stepped into the starting role in style for the Townsville Flames last night, assisting her side to a dominant 71-35 QABL win over the Brisbane Capitals.

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any results from Goldie v Suns and Caps v Cairns?

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Logan women won by heaps.

Logan men lost by one. Up 2 with 3.5seconds to go. Stevie Weigh gets fouled and hits all three free throws

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SW won both on the mountain.

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Goldie girls won in a close one by 3 points to the suns girls
suns girls had one bad quarter 3rd and it cost them the game

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SW won both on the mountain.

Any scores/game reports?

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Any scores/game reports?
SW women too good in their transition game, Jason Cameron dropped 11x 3's to give SW a lead the Neers couldn't gather up.

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Certainly seems like a tight comp this season, after Logan pushed Rocky to the brink. Who fouled the three shooter right at the end???? Heard Thalo shot a triple to win the game but missed.

Mackay beat Ippy by 15+ in the men. Not much to report on except that Col Oriard apparently went down in the third quarter and didn't return. Mackay women won by about 20.

Looking on the 'live' stats, a no-frills Cairns team smash a Barty-less Caps.

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Any scores/game reports?


Lady Pirates 95 def Toowoomba 66.

Lead from the first whistle... Only real players for Toowoomba were Tape and the import

Pirates girls ahd 5 in double figures

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Certainly seems like a tight comp this season, after Logan pushed Rocky to the brink. Who fouled the three shooter right at the end???? Heard Thalo shot a triple to win the game but missed.

Mackay beat Ippy by 15+ in the men. Not much to report on except that Col Oriard apparently went down in the third quarter and didn't return. Mackay women won by about 20.

Looking on the 'live' stats, a no-frills Cairns team smash a Barty-less Caps.

Meteors 108-101 over ippy. Quite a scrappy game but ippy hung tough even though down by 16 at half time. Meteors lost Rasmussen in first quarter with an ankle injury and Oriard in the second with back spasms so they had to dig deep for the win. Wellings & Stolly best for ippy and fitzy and deba for meteors and special mention to young Sam Bartolo who played extended minutes due to Meteors injury problems and did quite well. Mackay won the ladies game by about 20 with Wilson all class with about 35.

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Man that Guerckis needs to give up the 3 ball. He is so crap he shouldn't even be on the court. Oh wait...

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how does tommy ammur only play 19 mins against rocky, had 12 points and 7 rebs, bullets dev player playing bench mins with no injury,

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Townsville the same team? Are you out of your mind?

Townsville are going through a BIG rebuilding stage.

Lost 3 starters from last year in mark ferguson kelvin robertson and kruger, 3 MASSIVE holes to fill. and they have done it with all juniors. props to them for developing. they have lost david sleight over the last 2 years too. chris cedar is a great junior but his first year in the qabl will be tough for him. they will see alot of zone this year with very average shooters lineing up around the perimeter. last year it was the assasins kelvin cedar and fergie this year the only shooter is cedar by himself, goody is another year older and cannot carry his team for 48 mins as the other bigs arnt ready yet. all teams will do is key in on cedar and let the other guards shoot from outside, they played right into south wests hands the other night.

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Captain sidelined but import on his way (http://www.themorningbulletin.com.au/storydisplay.cfm?storyid=3771762)
May 07, 2008

THE Rockhampton Stadium Nightclub Rockets have hit a hurdle as they prepare to face their toughest challenge yet this weekend.

The ladder-leading Rockets are set to face-off with arch-rivals the Townsville Heat in Saturday night's blockbuster round four QABL clash at Hegvold Stadium without inspirational captain Darren Richardson.

Despite overcoming a recent bout of pneumonia, Richardson continues to battle a chest infection, which has floored the 400-game veteran for the past six weeks.

Richardson, who missed last weekend's two-game road trip, admitted yesterday he was sidelined indefinitely until he was fully recovered.

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Townsville the same team? Are you out of your mind?

Townsville are going through a BIG rebuilding stage.

Lost 3 starters from last year in mark ferguson kelvin robertson and kruger, 3 MASSIVE holes to fill. and they have done it with all juniors. props to them for developing. they have lost david sleight over the last 2 years too. chris cedar is a great junior but his first year in the qabl will be tough for him. they will see alot of zone this year with very average shooters lineing up around the perimeter. last year it was the assasins kelvin cedar and fergie this year the only shooter is cedar by himself, goody is another year older and cannot carry his team for 48 mins as the other bigs arnt ready yet. all teams will do is key in on cedar and let the other guards shoot from outside, they played right into south wests hands the other night.

Ok fair enough, but Fergie! Please he did more bad than good for that team last year, his lack of D, poor shot selection and selfish play at both ends hurt that team last year. Same goes with the loss of Sleight who was a loose cannon at the best of times, kind of a poor mans troy thompson who can't rebound and loves to turn the ball over. The loss of Kelvin does hurt big time he provided instant offense when the needed it. As for Kruges, yeh he is a veteran guy but did nothing more than act like an absolute tool all game and gave them no offense or rebounding. Something which Rees and Costanzo have provided thus far. Fergie an assassin???? Goody should never have been relied upon to carry that team this year, he is a serviceable big guy in the QABL though and should be giving them more than he is now...

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wow ur off ur head! fergie is a veteran player and i would have him on my team miles ahead of any of the guards in the heat with the exception of cedar(michael) kruger adds strength and smarts, he may not have big numbers but can still domintate a game without scoring. fergie can flat out shoot it! much better than the duds they have lineing up around the perimeter this year! cedar jr durox mcully dont even know the other kids but they couldnt hit the ocean if they fell out of a boat. this team is bleeding, rees and costanzo arnt grant grugers little toe! and r getting exploited by smaller teams. David sleight was a better player than troy thompson will ever be mate. havent watched much hoops?

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I'm a Fergie fan as well. Really enjoyed watching him hoop it up over the past few years, shame he isn't suiting up this season.

Comparing Sleight and T2 is a bit rough though.

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"Ok fair enough, but Fergie! Please he did more bad than good for that team last year, his lack of D, poor shot selection and selfish play at both ends hurt that team last year".

mate you could not be further from the truth on this one. having grown up playing with and against fergie i can only say that what you are saying is garbage. never has he been one to be selfish and never give 100% no matter what end it is on.. the guy oozes competitiveness. are you a one eyed fan or a disgruntled player?? besides the guy was one of their top scorers and probably played the least minutes out of their big 4. he shot well according to the box scores. so i struggle to see how thats selfish. he may get hot headed occassionally because of his competitiveness but i'll tell you right now rob rose would give half his team to have the mullet man back. you need to bring a better arguement than bullsh*t critisisms

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"Ok fair enough, but Fergie! Please he did more bad than good for that team last year, his lack of D, poor shot selection and selfish play at both ends hurt that team last year".

mate you could not be further from the truth on this one. having grown up playing with and against fergie i can only say that what you are saying is garbage. never has he been one to be selfish and never give 100% no matter what end it is on.. the guy oozes competitiveness. are you a one eyed fan or a disgruntled player?? besides the guy was one of their top scorers and probably played the least minutes out of their big 4. he shot well according to the box scores. so i struggle to see how thats selfish. he may get hot headed occassionally because of his competitiveness but i'll tell you right now rob rose would give half his team to have the mullet man back. you need to bring a better arguement than bullsh*t critisisms

Rob would give half his team just to have fergie back???? So thats why he cut him loose this year is it? Fergie along with Luke Cann and others just didn't make the grade for Robs standards this year. Fergie is a has been who has never won anything. When was the last time Townsville ever won anything actually. Year after year they put together star studded teams only to fall at the last hurdle to Cairns. Granted there was never any doubt last year that Cairns would win QABL but in years gone by how has that team which included a declining fergie not competed in every championship game? Now its not all on Fergie, probably more on the coach than anything. Who are you calling their big 4? Townsville had a big 3 last year (goody, kel, cedar) the 4th best player on that roster would have been mccully or kruger from a consistency standpoint having seen most of their games. McCully always brings the D, yeh he can't score to save himself but he is solid at this level. Fergie is not in the team this year because he didn't want to be, it because he was not wanted, his lack of commitment to the team during pre-season was a major reason for this.

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jesus you really are a space cadet arn't you?

You need some facts b4 you shoot your dumb mouth off. Firstly rob rose and fergie are very good friends so much so rob was at fergies wedding. having spoken to rob he said he wishes fergie was on the team very badly and talking to fergie he said he could not commit because of work where he is in brisbane most weeks. Townsville won the super 8 title in 2004 with fergie starting. Mark ferguson played nbl did u? did mcully? hes a very smart veteran player and a great competitor! that team needs him bad! i did not mean to have a go at cedar jr durox or mcully as they r solid basketball players but they need shooters? fergie was the top scorer against rocky in the qtr final last year in cairns and almost carried them to a victory when others went missing. mate u really have no idea. i knew some fool would blame the coach but the reality is bobby knight would have a tough time with the young heat this year! u talk about all these guys who are great defenders but offense wins championships in the QABL mate, if you dont have shooters you are no chance!

Last years team compared to this year

Kelvin v Cedar jr = massive loss
Cedar snr v himself = same
Fergie v mcully = massive loss
kruger v rees = ridiculously massive loss
Goody v himself = who looks old this year cause he has to carry the squad

all of the players you are claiming are better were fantastic role players for the heat for many years and you could bring up young kids to and not loose games because of the nbl players experience but now these role players (mcully durox) and young players (cedar jr, rees. costanzo) have been thrown in the deep end and have to do alot more and they are NOT capable of doing it. Dont cry about your coach just sit back and enjoy the play of the young kids and dont expect too much. its called a rebuilding year mate, it happens to everyone, hasnt happened in tville for a while but its happening now.

Surely this has gotta be the end of this (not just cause i say so) but because you have made youself look very silly and I just want it to end.

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jesus you really are a space cadet arn't you?

You need some facts b4 you shoot your dumb mouth off. Firstly rob rose and fergie are very good friends so much so rob was at fergies wedding. having spoken to rob he said he wishes fergie was on the team very badly and talking to fergie he said he could not commit because of work where he is in brisbane most weeks. Townsville won the super 8 title in 2004 with fergie starting. Mark ferguson played nbl did u? did mcully? hes a very smart veteran player and a great competitor! that team needs him bad! i did not mean to have a go at cedar jr durox or mcully as they r solid basketball players but they need shooters? fergie was the top scorer against rocky in the qtr final last year in cairns and almost carried them to a victory when others went missing. mate u really have no idea. i knew some fool would blame the coach but the reality is bobby knight would have a tough time with the young heat this year! u talk about all these guys who are great defenders but offense wins championships in the QABL mate, if you dont have shooters you are no chance!

Last years team compared to this year

Kelvin v Cedar jr = massive loss
Cedar snr v himself = same
Fergie v mcully = massive loss
kruger v rees = ridiculously massive loss
Goody v himself = who looks old this year cause he has to carry the squad

all of the players you are claiming are better were fantastic role players for the heat for many years and you could bring up young kids to and not loose games because of the nbl players experience but now these role players (mcully durox) and young players (cedar jr, rees. costanzo) have been thrown in the deep end and have to do alot more and they are NOT capable of doing it. Dont cry about your coach just sit back and enjoy the play of the young kids and dont expect too much. its called a rebuilding year mate, it happens to everyone, hasnt happened in tville for a while but its happening now.

Surely this has gotta be the end of this (not just cause i say so) but because you have made youself look very silly and I just want it to end.

I am not saying that the heat are going to win anything this year, I never said that, I would never expect them to with the roster they have assembled this year. What I did say is how did they lose to the Pirates and Caps who were both undermanned? Townsville may have won super 8 in 2004, but couldn't win the QABL title when it came down to it. Fergie and Kruges both went missing in a big way in that title game. From memory I think the most useful thing Kruger did in that game was kick a hole in the wall at UQ.

Mark Ferguson played NBL??? Wow now theres a useless fact that no one really gives a shit about. Chris Novak played NBL. So what he played NBL, he never, ever played any kind of meanigful role. I think he may still have splinters in his ass from riding the pine for the entirety of his NBL career, which was what 24 games and an outstanding 0.33ppg career average. Really speaks volumes for him as an NBL player!

Offense wins games in the QABL, says a lot about the league as a whole as well doesn't it. Cairns won that title last year with stingy D and they will win more games than not this year because they play stingy D.

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I agree with what someone above has said, Townsville are obviously in a rebuilding stage, so there's not much point in knocking them. They would be 4-0 if they maybe had a little more experience and were able to close out games better. The roster seems to be mostly a defensive one - Scully, Timmy, Papps, Keegs. They just don't have the scorers of previous seasons. If young Cedar becomes more consistent offensivley like his brother could be different story though. Don't care what anybody says, Goodie is still in my top 10 players in the QABL. Not many centers around that can shoot from the perimeter like him.

As for the comments about Fergie, he is a veteran player with invaluable experience who is being missed right now. The guy is working hard on his business endeavours and could not commit to the team. Whoever is trying to put him down, you are a tool.

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Technically it really is offense that wins games since you can't win with no points on the board. Good defense just makes it easier to win with your offense.

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As for the comments about Fergie, he is a veteran player with invaluable experience who is being missed right now. The guy is working hard on his business endeavours and could not commit to the team. Whoever is trying to put him down, you are a tool.
I guess these tools need somebody to pick on who can't make them look like fools the very next week (ala last round's Gureckis bashing).

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jesus you really are a space cadet arn't you?

You need some facts b4 you shoot your dumb mouth off. Firstly rob rose and fergie are very good friends so much so rob was at fergies wedding. having spoken to rob he said he wishes fergie was on the team very badly and talking to fergie he said he could not commit because of work where he is in brisbane most weeks. Townsville won the super 8 title in 2004 with fergie starting. Mark ferguson played nbl did u? did mcully? hes a very smart veteran player and a great competitor! that team needs him bad! i did not mean to have a go at cedar jr durox or mcully as they r solid basketball players but they need shooters? fergie was the top scorer against rocky in the qtr final last year in cairns and almost carried them to a victory when others went missing. mate u really have no idea. i knew some fool would blame the coach but the reality is bobby knight would have a tough time with the young heat this year! u talk about all these guys who are great defenders but offense wins championships in the QABL mate, if you dont have shooters you are no chance!

Last years team compared to this year

Kelvin v Cedar jr = massive loss
Cedar snr v himself = same
Fergie v mcully = massive loss
kruger v rees = ridiculously massive loss
Goody v himself = who looks old this year cause he has to carry the squad

all of the players you are claiming are better were fantastic role players for the heat for many years and you could bring up young kids to and not loose games because of the nbl players experience but now these role players (mcully durox) and young players (cedar jr, rees. costanzo) have been thrown in the deep end and have to do alot more and they are NOT capable of doing it. Dont cry about your coach just sit back and enjoy the play of the young kids and dont expect too much. its called a rebuilding year mate, it happens to everyone, hasnt happened in tville for a while but its happening now.

Surely this has gotta be the end of this (not just cause i say so) but because you have made youself look very silly and I just want it to end.


fergie never started last year by the way.

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I am not saying that the heat are going to win anything this year, I never said that, I would never expect them to with the roster they have assembled this year. What I did say is how did they lose to the Pirates and Caps who were both undermanned? Townsville may have won super 8 in 2004, but couldn't win the QABL title when it came down to it. Fergie and Kruges both went missing in a big way in that title game. From memory I think the most useful thing Kruger did in that game was kick a hole in the wall at UQ.

Mark Ferguson played NBL??? Wow now theres a useless fact that no one really gives a shit about. Chris Novak played NBL. So what he played NBL, he never, ever played any kind of meanigful role. I think he may still have splinters in his ass from riding the pine for the entirety of his NBL career, which was what 24 games and an outstanding 0.33ppg career average. Really speaks volumes for him as an NBL player!

Offense wins games in the QABL, says a lot about the league as a whole as well doesn't it. Cairns won that title last year with stingy D and they will win more games than not this year because they play stingy D.

At least they had the chance to play NBL, you on the other hand are on here bagging people because all you do is sit in the crowd and yell at players you WISH you were as good as... Novak and Fergs are class on and off the court and don't deserve some wannabe saying otherwise

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exactly fergie plated NBL. you will never play nbl. these players who u said r better than him (skully) will never play nbl. who cares if he was picking splinters out of his arse, the point is he got there. Im really sorry you got cut from the heat but i cant help that. Maybe in a few years you will make when you graduate from town high but until then just work on your game and stay quiet and dont disrespect a great QABL player and veteran mark ferguson.

Sorry i was almost done but i gotta have a crack at your comment about cairns winning with stingy D hahahahahahahahahaha thats awsome! cairns won because they had a playoff nbl team playing for them u fool! grabau the best qabl player in the past 10 years jawai the nbl rookie of the year boodnicoff a former nbl rookie of the year and 3 other players who r in nbl ten man rosters now matt smith scott cook and dwayne vale. fernie is a great coach but blind freddie could of coached that team to a title, that was the best aba team ever assembled, big call but im sticking with it.

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[QUOTE=Unregistered;5996]Rob would give half his team just to have fergie back???? So thats why he cut him loose this year is it? Fergie along with Luke Cann and others just didn't make the grade for Robs standards this year. Fergie is a has been who has never won anything. QUOTE]

you really have no idea what you are talking about do you??
you really have a warped perception of reality if you think that this is really whats going on.
fergo has major work commitments and good on him for PURSUING A CAREER after sport.
im not even going to justify this filth.. as alot of ppl have jumped on you already for that garbage you have been speaking.
enough said already!!!

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I agree.

Whoever is jumping on Fergie's back is a goose! Quack quack quack honk honk honk!

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Technically it really is offense that wins games since you can't win with no points on the board. Good defense just makes it easier to win with your offense.

you must be a phoenix suns fan. Never heard the saying 'From good defense comes good offense'? Its why the suns can never get past the spurs in the NBA.

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you must be a phoenix suns fan. Never heard the saying 'From good defense comes good offense'? Its why the suns can never get past the spurs in the NBA.
Feel free to point out exactly how I'm wrong. If you can explain how you can beat a team without scoring a point you'll have me beat.

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well technically speakin if a team doesnt have enough players an they forfeit you win without scoring a single point :)

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well technically speakin if a team doesnt have enough players an they forfeit you win without scoring a single point :)

nah, you usually get 1 or 2 points per minute the team is late. So generally if a team forfeits the score is recorded as 20-0 :)

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nah, you usually get 1 or 2 points per minute the team is late. So generally if a team forfeits the score is recorded as 20-0 :)

You idiot, there is no score, the score sheet reads 20-0, but there is no scores. Also this is QABL, not some local crap. There is no 1-2 points per minute if a team is late. If a team is late, game starts late at nil all the score....

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Winning by forfeit is not beating a team. You have to play a team to beat them and that can only happen if you score more points than they do. Offense wins games. Just ask Michael Jordan.

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Winning by forfeit is not beating a team. You have to play a team to beat them and that can only happen if you score more points than they do. Offense wins games. Just ask Michael Jordan.

Offense sells Tickets
Defense wins championships !!!!

Just ask the American Team from last World Championships, Best team with brilliant individual offensive skills but beaten by a very good defensive team.

How many times was Jordan named best defensive player ??

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Mate congratulations on proving to everyone you are a fool!

You got NO support with your fergie hate and now your trying to change the subject and see if you can get any followers with your defensive argument! No is talking about the nba or any american team at the world champs. this is a QABL forum you dummy! and the debate was the NO one plays d in the qabl. If you dont have shooters and scorers you will not succeed! The difference between the nbl and qabl is the defence. most of the better players have similar offensive skills but the difference is the body types and lack of defence. You can be a great aba defensive player but an nbl player is still most likely gonna light you up!

Look your heat hating argument was rubbish and got killed
your fergie argument was awful and got killed.
Now your trying with this? and no one ever wanted to bring it up except you?

Your old and very original quote of "defense wins championships" souldnt be more true. it 100% does when players are similar in offensive skills like the nba(spurs) nbl(kings and tigers, bullets) college and world champs. but the is the aba mate, where different players and different teams have very different offensive capabilities.

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sorry the "defence wins championships" quote could'nt be more true is what i meant to say not "souldnt" my bad grammar, sorry all

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nah, you usually get 1 or 2 points per minute the team is late. So generally if a team forfeits the score is recorded as 20-0 :)

You idiot, there is no score, the score sheet reads 20-0, but there is no scores. Also this is QABL, not some local crap. There is no 1-2 points per minute if a team is late. If a team is late, game starts late at nil all the score....

Way to show how much of a tool you are mate.. i'm pretty sure we know its QABL... it was a joke howdy... lighten up

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above post was me

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[QUOTE=Unregistered;5996]Rob would give half his team just to have fergie back???? So thats why he cut him loose this year is it? Fergie along with Luke Cann and others just didn't make the grade for Robs standards this year. Fergie is a has been who has never won anything. QUOTE]

you really have no idea what you are talking about do you??
you really have a warped perception of reality if you think that this is really whats going on.
fergo has major work commitments and good on him for PURSUING A CAREER after sport.
im not even going to justify this filth.. as alot of ppl have jumped on you already for that garbage you have been speaking.
enough said already!!!

Didn't know fergie ever had a career in sport? Did he ever earn a roster spot with the crocs or more by default when guys got injured and he was hanging around free loading as usual and got the sympathy spot.

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Offense sells Tickets
Defense wins championships !!!!

Just ask the American Team from last World Championships, Best team with brilliant individual offensive skills but beaten by a very good defensive team.

How many times was Jordan named best defensive player ??How many times did Jordan make a very good defender look silly when hitting game winning and championship winning shots?

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Your old and very original quote of "defense wins championships" couldnt be more true. it 100% does when players are similar in offensive skills like the nba(spurs) nbl(kings and tigers, bullets) college and world champs. but the is the aba mate, where different players and different teams have very different offensive capabilities.
Basketball is basketball no matter what level it is being played at. No matter what quote is used it is not going to change the fact that points totals alone will decide the outcome of a game. The only way to change the points totals is through offense and this is the ONLY way to win. Obviously defense can't be ignored but it is just one of many other aspects of basketball that does not contribute DIRECTLY to the score line. Defense is only singled out because it's easier to be consistent defensively than it is offensively.

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yes fergie was put in the crocs 10 the year they went to the grand final. ever played in an nbl grand final mate? something mark ferguson will always have and you wont! thanx for coming!

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Jordan was the supreme all round player - not just offensive.

I think that his Defensive Player of the Year award in 1988 protrays that, or maybe even the fact he was a 9 time All Defensive First Team Selection.

A great athlete who did it at both ends.

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Didn't know fergie ever had a career in sport? Did he ever earn a roster spot with the crocs or more by default when guys got injured and he was hanging around free loading as usual and got the sympathy spot.

haha.... mate you arent telling anyone who is close to fergo anything new with the "free loading" comment anything new.... he could could free load with the best of them that's for sure!!!
but as far as a sympathy spot goes well everyone knows thats garbage...
he put a lot of hard work into the crocs gig and everyone around him knew and would agree with me that that was his career for abt 5 or so yrs.. everyone has a dream mate.. some dream of playing in the NBL like fergo and some dream of speaking sh#t abt ppl on forums like you. but everyone has a dream
him and PC were both considered nbl quality talent but the cards never fell for fergo like they did PC.
so give it a break you knob..
Oh.. and i think fergo's loading has made him many contacts within the sporting fraternity in the ville and made him into somewhat of a successful business person as well... so if free loading gets you somewhere... why not i say???

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i didnt edit too well there... but you get the point!!

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So Gureckis sucks so much he got.. 8 from 10 threes.
Yeah, hes crap.. not.

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Meteors import Colin Oriard has been rather dissapointing to date. His shooting percentages are very poor especially for a player who takes his shots close to the rim. He is playing similarly to Crocs flop Galen Young. Both came in with large reputations, both struggled to perform anywhere near expected. His strength is not questionable but his heart and ability to play through soreness may be. If he lifts his game, then the Meteors will be a good chance at the title.