U18 Boys Premier League

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Good on you Fly that guy is a real tosser. His explanation doesn't even make sense along with half of his self indulgent ravings. PLEASE give us a rest.
Shoo Fly!

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Yeh mate he is a good player. Just not as good as Mitch McCarron and a number of others on the night.

Pretty much, it's just marc is stronger. But mitch out athletises him, as well as many other guards thats why he is one of the better guards, pure athletisism

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Pretty much, it's just marc is stronger. But mitch out athletises him, as well as many other guards thats why he is one of the better guards, pure athletisism

you are making out mitch mccarron to be sum sought of freak child. the kid is a good point guard and runs the brisbane team well, but bottom agers like corban wroe, tom laycock and josh blank out athletisise him by far and Marc definately out athletisises him, marc is also a very solid player.

not saying the kid isnt good.

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you are making out mitch mccarron to be sum sought of freak child. the kid is a good point guard and runs the brisbane team well, but bottom agers like corban wroe, tom laycock and josh blank out athletisise him by far and Marc definately out athletisises him, marc is also a very solid player.

not saying the kid isnt good.

I totally agree with you that those players all are very good players...it's just that none of them can jump like mitch for rebounds...corban is up there in dunks, but for rebounds none of them can rebound like mitch. Sorry didn't mean to make out he was a freak child...because hes not. sorry i just thought he was the best rebounder in his position.

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you are making out mitch mccarron to be sum sought of freak child. the kid is a good point guard and runs the brisbane team well, but bottom agers like corban wroe, tom laycock and josh blank out athletisise him by far and Marc definately out athletisises him, marc is also a very solid player.

not saying the kid isnt good.
"ATHLETICISES"...a new word is born on BenDoes! Who said reading and writing on BenDoes will rot ya' brain?!
Anyway regardless of who "out athleticises" who, McCarron has the inate ability to 'see' the floor and read the game 1 or two moves ahead of the ball. Rotteler goes hard but McCarron has a few more attributes to his game.

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I totally agree with you that those players all are very good players...it's just that none of them can jump like mitch for rebounds...corban is up there in dunks, but for rebounds none of them can rebound like mitch. Sorry didn't mean to make out he was a freak child...because hes not. sorry i just thought he was the best rebounder in his position.

who really cares? its under 18s people, not the NBL, let the kids play and quit comparing them. They're all trying their best and as long as they're learning and having fun as well, it's all good

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For goodness sakes the kid is still bottom age. When he played against a couple of top aged kids in the districts team he was unsighted. The same will occur when he plays against Maroochydore.

Goos bottom aged played but not as strong at the older aged kids which is only natural.

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agreed, probly a good kid in his own age but does he derserve the praise in this age, i no he was definatly the weak link in 16's state squad after watching a few trainings. That was a long time ago, i no, but i dont think he can cut it with the rest.

And what postion does marc, play, and dont tell me 'all' positions, i want to no what position he is goin for in state, cause he is quite small to play a foward and not very skilled ot play a guard, but a very good boarder.

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Mitch mcaron is ok but he is not that fast . there are plenty of top agers that can run the floor. Not saying he is bad but he aint that great either. Were not talking nbl here are we

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agreed, probly a good kid in his own age but does he derserve the praise in this age, i no he was definatly the weak link in 16's state squad after watching a few trainings. That was a long time ago, i no, but i dont think he can cut it with the rest.

And what postion does marc, play, and dont tell me 'all' positions, i want to no what position he is goin for in state, cause he is quite small to play a foward and not very skilled ot play a guard, but a very good boarder.

And on whose esteemed basketball credentials, knowledge and experience should we accept the straight out statement that Mitch McCarron was the weak link in the State U/16 team, after watching a few trainings?
Obviously this esteemed expert was nowhere near the Australian Championships where Mitchell went on to and posted some of the best stats of all the Queensland players, earning the respect and a reputation amongst opposition players and coaches across the nation as well as his own teammates and coaching staff and the 'tute coaches who saw fit for him to be selected for All Australian camp.
Really pisses me off that no name, never done anything "experts" can cane a kid's reputation in such a way when there is such a dearth of factul evidence to the contrary. Admittedly it's only BenDoes, a public forum that rates no credibility amongst those in the state with any basketball pedigree or background at any level, but it is nevertheless a public forum. Even more upsetting is the amount of credence that parents and people who know nothing much about the game and its tiers and pecking orders, place upon the tripe they read on Bendoes by "experts" (read: idiots) such as the quote above.
I'd refer to the 32 point drubbing Mitch McCarron's team gave Marc Roettler's team as the "bottom line" in any discussion about the merits of either player as a point guard, team organiser, rebounder scorer or player with the ability to win games. Combined with McCarrons stats from the National Championships and the opinions of the Nation's coaches who selected him to AllAustralian, I'd venture that it's probably a much better indication of McCarrons real abilities as a player than some turkey who saw a few trainings and rates him as the "weak link".

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hahaha ur right my fault. What i ment to say was bottom age 16's when he made shadow. He was not up to training with the older gyes and it showed, once again that was a long time ago i no, but similar situation this yr i think

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And on whose esteemed basketball credentials, knowledge and experience should we accept the straight out statement that Mitch McCarron was the weak link in the State U/16 team, after watching a few trainings?
Obviously this esteemed expert was nowhere near the Australian Championships where Mitchell went on to and posted some of the best stats of all the Queensland players, earning the respect and a reputation amongst opposition players and coaches across the nation as well as his own teammates and coaching staff and the 'tute coaches who saw fit for him to be selected for All Australian camp.
Really pisses me off that no name, never done anything "experts" can cane a kid's reputation in such a way when there is such a dearth of factul evidence to the contrary. Admittedly it's only BenDoes, a public forum that rates no credibility amongst those in the state with any basketball pedigree or background at any level, but it is nevertheless a public forum. Even more upsetting is the amount of credence that parents and people who know nothing much about the game and its tiers and pecking orders, place upon the tripe they read on Bendoes by "experts" (read: idiots) such as the quote above.
I'd refer to the 32 point drubbing Mitch McCarron's team gave Marc Roettler's team as the "bottom line" in any discussion about the merits of either player as a point guard, team organiser, rebounder scorer or player with the ability to win games. Combined with McCarrons stats from the National Championships and the opinions of the Nation's coaches who selected him to AllAustralian, I'd venture that it's probably a much better indication of McCarrons real abilities as a player than some turkey who saw a few trainings and rates him as the "weak link".

when u say the bit about "either players as a point guard, team organiser, rebounder, scorer or player with the ability to win games" did u take into account that rotteler pretty much didn't leave the keyway during the time he was on the court before he got injured? aka HE ISN'T A POINT GAURD!!! and rebound wise, rotteler would have at least doubled mccarron's.....looks like u havn't got your facts right either. so lets cut this crap and talk about this weekend, where and who are the big games between?

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hahaha ur right my fault. What i ment to say was bottom age 16's when he made shadow. He was not up to training with the older gyes and it showed, once again that was a long time ago i no, but similar situation this yr i think
Reports from around the competition would indicate otherwise. It would seem that he's showing something when the BBI team, with nothing much else except a very raw and inexperienced big, are putting the highly fancied South West Metro to the sword by 30+ points??? Dont you think? (Obviously not!)
Anyhow I just think your talking complete bullshit and are making no sense by what your saying. Jorden Page and Brock Motem couldnt make State sides as bottom age 16's either but 2 years later they are regarded as among the best in the country. I'm sure you'll find that Isiah Tueta, Mick Gulotta and Mitch McCarron will be considered the best guards in the State this year. However your quite entitled to believe and write whatever tripe you so wish. Who cares?

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when u say the bit about "either players as a point guard, team organiser, rebounder, scorer or player with the ability to win games" did u take into account that rotteler pretty much didn't leave the keyway during the time he was on the court before he got injured? aka HE ISN'T A POINT GAURD!!! and rebound wise, rotteler would have at least doubled mccarron's.....looks like u havn't got your facts right either. so lets cut this crap and talk about this weekend, where and who are the big games between?
Mate it sounds like you arent interested in discussing anything else about this competition apart from how good your fantasy boy Mark Roettler is and how much better than every guy he plays against he is. So if Roettler cant, organise his team (he's captain isnt he?!), cant rebound enough to stop his team getting smacked by 30 points, cant score enough to win or at least bring his team closer, or come up with something to win the game for his team (or at least make it close) then WHAT exactly is it that your boy is better than everyone else at???
Your clutching at straws fella and very thin ones at that. Save your hype for people who dont know what they are talking about. HaHaHa!

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Gold Coast versus BBI at TSS
Beautiful place to play basketball and the sweet "crack" of those expensive nets when you drop a shot from distance...wow! A goose's logic would say that SWM beat the Coast and BBI absolutely spanked SWM so BBI should easily account for Gold Coast. But everyone knows this competition doesnt work like that. Gold Coast seem to have found their systems and how to play to their strengths instead of out of some text book. Maybe they are just finding what their strengths are, who knows? But I'm tipping that sweet "crack" of the TSS nets being a familiar sound for the Waves shooters in this one and GC being too fast up and down the floor for BBI to get into their half court "bump and grind" game utilising Hodgson and McCarron like they did against SWM. Gold Coast by 5-10 pts.

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EMU'S TIPS OF THE WEEK

Logan will dispose of the Bay by 15 +

Spartans likewise over the Silver tails.

Now.... the more difficult pics.

The Northern Lemon Heads v South West Urbanites. (Maroochy v Metro)
I've watched both these teams flatten my Waves. Similar "Get after it Styles". I think I'll go with the home court advantage, the refs being the difference. :D
Maroochy by Under 15 (Foul count 32-10) :eye-popping:

Potentially the game of the round. Waves v Brizzos.
The Waves guards will take a points decision. Adam and Jesse will contain the "BenDoes Wonder Boy" despite the build up here. The GC 2's n 3's led by "Googs" Gullotta and Daniel "DC" Correa, backed up by Josh n Jarrod will have a slight edge. The battle of the bigs will probably determine who wins this one. The X factor could be the difference. In this case ... Hunger. Those who want it the most will get it!

Should be a great game to watch whatever the outcome. As the previous writer pointed out, the home court familiarity could be the edge. Soooo..... enough waffling..... time to put my feathers on the line...

Waves by 5

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The Northern Lemon Heads v South West Urbanites. (Maroochy v Metro)
I've watched both these teams flatten my Waves. Similar "Get after it Styles". I think I'll go with the home court advantage, the refs being the difference. :D
Maroochy by Under 15 (Foul count 32-10) :eye-popping:

Pretty rich for a Gold Coast Association identity to be casting aspersions on other Association referees! Especially when the brightest referee to come out of the coast in recent years will no longer ref there because of the "home town bullshit" he had to contend with. Even dumber to be casting aspersions on Maroochydore refs. Apart from the fact your team got beaten by 30+ at Noosa with Noosa refs then beaten comfortably at the Gold Coast with a couple of your better and fairer refs, the PL refs at Maroochydore are from Noosa, Caloundra, Caboolture and North Brisbane as young Justin from here refs in Brisbane for experience and to alleviate jibes from losers looking for scapegoats. And childish name calling... REALLY! (Glass houses, buddy.) Shame actually, expected better of the Emu.

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Intended for a bit of light hearted banter between the the two Coasts mate. Called humour. Lighten up on here will ya guys. This isn't a Federal Election forum! Geez, apologies if I have offended any Maroochy refs, not my intention. I may just edit that out if causes that much grief.

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[Potentially the game of the round. Waves v Brizzos.
Adam and Jesse will contain the "BenDoes Wonder Boy" despite the build up here.
Waves by 5[/QUOTE]

Ha Ha Yeh! The "BenDoes Wonder Boy" is no real thing. We just got so sick of reading about young Marc Roettler week in and week out as being just about better than every kid playing basketball in QLD that we thought it might be good to write up another kid who at least some other people in basketball around Austrlia give some credence to. Young Mitch would be blissfully unaware of all the write ups he's been getting but at least he was selected by a panel of opposing State Coaches and the staff of the A.I.S. as being of All Australian standard. I reckon Marc's write ups have come from his Mum, girlfriend and possibly himself.

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Don't worry bout it G force just has to have the first and last say in every conversation cause he so loves the sound of his own voice. ignore him and he still won't go away
Sickenening

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Don't worry bout it G force just has to have the first and last say in every conversation cause he so loves the sound of his own voice. ignore him and he still won't go away
Sickenening
Shoo Fly!!

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I haven't made an unregistered post on this board yet. I guess that I'm not the only person who can tell who you are by your style of writing. Shoo someone else, I've stayed out of this, too much crap.


How about we discuss basketball for something completely different, instead of being keyboard warriors.

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caps beat goldie by 3

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Anyone got scores from the games tonight

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Anyone got scores from the games tonight

check the results thread. it has nearly all the results.

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has anyone got any game reports for the weekend?? Just wondering about the results from people who were at the games.

cheers

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BBI Silver v Districts was over after the first quarter.

Coach played his bench for most of the second half and ran out 40 point winners.

Credit to BBI though as they nevr game up and gave 100% from start to finish.

Anthony Semerad the stand out for Districts.

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has anyone got any game reports for the weekend?? Just wondering about the results from people who were at the games.

cheers
Would love to give a match report on what was a pretty exciting match up at Maroochydore between a very good SWM side and the locals. Wouldnt like to cause 'sickness' (any more than currently resides within this individual) nor raises the angst of a mean spirited, small minded, negative, gutless wonder whose got nothing more interesting nor of any value to say, than to anonymously heckle someone who does.
I accept it isnt you Fly and apologies at wrongly assuming.

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formine, this could have been the match of the round. Both teams have very high expectations for this season, both teams have played well to very well so far ('cept for last week when SW were soundly beaten by BBI). True that Maroochy had the better record pre-game (1 loss v 2 losses) but also remember the opposition faced. So all in all, a tough assignment for both teams.

SW lead early with a lay up from the opening tip but Maroochy lead from then on. Maroochy lead by as many as 18 during the game but with 3 minutes left, SW were within 6 and Maroochy were tested to the end eventually winning by 10 to 12 pts(??).

A very entertaining event with the result up in the air for most of this contest.

Though I am a Maroochy fan through and through and through and thr.... (you get the picture), several SW players caught my attention. Marc is an obvious attention getter and he really deserves to be. I read on this sight how someone is too 'small' to be a 'big', too big to be this or too something to be someting or other. Hec, don't a player's returns, results stand him in the right stead. Rotieller is genuine. But beside Marc you also have tireless guards in Daniel Sims, Ryan Vines and Jonathon Mines, forwards Palaez, Skelton, Quigley and Fane and add in Volck and Safford. Not many superstar names there but a better than fine all round team.

Maroochy probably held the edge because they punish so hard when their opponent makes a turnover or mistake. The Maroochy defence needs a lot of tweeking to reach the standards required by Fawcett and Redman (Coach and his Asist) but they do run exceptionally and will finish more athletically than most other teams. The Maroochy offence is also very well controlled but with enough room for these terrific young athletes to 'do their thing' with the structures employed.

The Game. 18 of the 20 players to get time scored. Maroochy had 5 in double figure scoring, SW had 4. Maroochy lost 1 player to 5 fouls, SW lost 2. Have heard no complaints re referee-ing (congrats to Justin & Fiona), just a great game (from a Maroochy perspective anyway) to watch and from comments from players from both teams a great contest to be a part of.

End result - Maroochy Clippers 93 d SW Metro Pirates 83

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formine, this could have been the match of the round. Both teams have very high expectations for this season, both teams have played well to very well so far ('cept for last week when SW were soundly beaten by BBI). True that Maroochy had the better record pre-game (1 loss v 2 losses) but also remember the opposition faced. So all in all, a tough assignment for both teams.

SW lead early with a lay up from the opening tip but Maroochy lead from then on. Maroochy lead by as many as 18 during the game but with 3 minutes left, SW were within 6 and Maroochy were tested to the end eventually winning by 10 to 12 pts(??).

A very entertaining event with the result up in the air for most of this contest.

Though I am a Maroochy fan through and through and through and thr.... (you get the picture), several SW players caught my attention. Marc is an obvious attention getter and he really deserves to be. I read on this sight how someone is too 'small' to be a 'big', too big to be this or too something to be someting or other. Hec, don't a player's returns, results stand him in the right stead. Rotieller is genuine. But beside Marc you also have tireless guards in Daniel Sims, Ryan Vines and Jonathon Mines, forwards Palaez, Skelton, Quigley and Fane and add in Volck and Safford. Not many superstar names there but a better than fine all round team.



HMMMM sounds like a south west/ marc rotler fan in discise to me, marc obviously did not play one of his better games, didnt play good, but was not an attention grabber in this particular game, and im not sure a maroochydore supporter would no the names of all the south west players. They would be to caught up in them selves

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I mean "marc didnt play BAD, but not an attention grabber in this game"

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I mean "marc didnt play BAD, but not an attention grabber in this game"

Did anyone see the Gold Coast game? I'm pressuming Emu? Just looking for who the standouts were.

cheers

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HMMMM sounds like a south west/ marc rotler fan in discise to me, marc obviously did not play one of his better games, didnt play good, but was not an attention grabber in this particular game, and im not sure a maroochydore supporter would no the names of all the south west players. They would be to caught up in them selves

I am who I am! I know players names cause I care to. Name your club and I'll tell you who plays for you, especially on the 'morning after'. Anyway, why the hell does my identity bother you. It's the game that we all want to read about. I am in fact Izzy's dad SO, YES, I AM A MAROOCHY FAN. My post was in answer to 'any other game results', not to 'guess my real identity'. Am I a fan of ROTIELLER? Anyone who likes our sport would (should) be. The kid, like so many others in this league, can play. Is he my fave? No! Guess who is! But I do rate Marc (and some of his other team mates) as great 'ornaments' to our sport. Is he a state rep? Not when you only have 10 spots to fill and Izzy's already got them all covered (LOL REAL LOUD)(PLEASE DON'T TAKE THAT LAST STATEMENT SERIOUSLY)(OH! YOU PROBABLY WILL SO WHAT THE HELL?). Enjoy and remember to be kind to someone today!!!

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HMMMM sounds like a south west/ marc rotler fan in discise to me, marc obviously did not play one of his better games, didnt play good, but was not an attention grabber in this particular game, and im not sure a maroochydore supporter would no the names of all the south west players. They would be to caught up in them selves

I am who I am! I know players names cause I care to. Name your club and I'll tell you who plays for you, especially on the 'morning after'. Anyway, why the hell does my identity bother you. It's the game that we all want to read about. I am in fact Izzy's dad SO, YES, I AM A MAROOCHY FAN. My post was in answer to 'any other game results', not to 'guess my real identity'. Am I a fan of ROTIELLER? Anyone who likes our sport would (should) be. The kid, like so many others in this league, can play. Is he my fave? No! Guess who is! But I do rate Marc (and some of his other team mates) as great 'ornaments' to our sport. Is he a state rep? Not when you only have 10 spots to fill and Izzy's already got them all covered (LOL REAL LOUD)(PLEASE DON'T TAKE THAT LAST STATEMENT SERIOUSLY)(OH! YOU PROBABLY WILL SO WHAT THE HELL?). Enjoy and remember to be kind to someone today!!!




hahahah, whoever that was that posted the first comment. Izzy's dad just "snapped" u!

now back to the basketball.

how did the BBI v GC game go????

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OK Mr Izzy you have seen the kids in this age group for awhile now and are a respected and experienced supporter of the game of basketball.

Who do youn think will make the state side this year?

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OK Mr Izzy you have seen the kids in this age group for awhile now and are a respected and experienced supporter of the game of basketball.

Who do youn think will make the state side this year?

Not going there but thanks for the opportunity to make an absolute idiot of moi! HaHa!!

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formine, this could have been the match of the round. Both teams have very high expectations for this season, both teams have played well to very well so far ('cept for last week when SW were soundly beaten by BBI). True that Maroochy had the better record pre-game (1 loss v 2 losses) but also remember the opposition faced. So all in all, a tough assignment for both teams.

SW lead early with a lay up from the opening tip but Maroochy lead from then on. Maroochy lead by as many as 18 during the game but with 3 minutes left, SW were within 6 and Maroochy were tested to the end eventually winning by 10 to 12 pts(??).

A very entertaining event with the result up in the air for most of this contest.

Though I am a Maroochy fan through and through and through and thr.... (you get the picture), several SW players caught my attention. Marc is an obvious attention getter and he really deserves to be. I read on this sight how someone is too 'small' to be a 'big', too big to be this or too something to be someting or other. Hec, don't a player's returns, results stand him in the right stead. Rotieller is genuine. But beside Marc you also have tireless guards in Daniel Sims, Ryan Vines and Jonathon Mines, forwards Palaez, Skelton, Quigley and Fane and add in Volck and Safford. Not many superstar names there but a better than fine all round team.

Maroochy probably held the edge because they punish so hard when their opponent makes a turnover or mistake. The Maroochy defence needs a lot of tweeking to reach the standards required by Fawcett and Redman (Coach and his Asist) but they do run exceptionally and will finish more athletically than most other teams. The Maroochy offence is also very well controlled but with enough room for these terrific young athletes to 'do their thing' with the structures employed.

The Game. 18 of the 20 players to get time scored. Maroochy had 5 in double figure scoring, SW had 4. Maroochy lost 1 player to 5 fouls, SW lost 2. Have heard no complaints re referee-ing (congrats to Justin & Fiona), just a great game (from a Maroochy perspective anyway) to watch and from comments from players from both teams a great contest to be a part of.

End result - Maroochy Clippers 93 d SW Metro Pirates 83
Pretty big write up about the losing team and everyone on it including of course Mark Rottler. So what did maroochydore do to beat this great team you've written about? Their coaches must have known something and the players they must have done something good. Who were they? Rumour around that young male ref totally lost control of himself and SW went out and tried to take out the MD point guard with dirty play. You sure yure MD parent and actually saw the game?

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I am who I am! I know players names cause I care to. Name your club and I'll tell you who plays for you, especially on the 'morning after'. Anyway, why the hell does my identity bother you. It's the game that we all want to read about. I am in fact Izzy's dad SO, YES, I AM A MAROOCHY FAN. My post was in answer to 'any other game results', not to 'guess my real identity'. Am I a fan of ROTIELLER? Anyone who likes our sport would (should) be. The kid, like so many others in this league, can play. Is he my fave? No! Guess who is! But I do rate Marc (and some of his other team mates) as great 'ornaments' to our sport. Is he a state rep? Not when you only have 10 spots to fill and Izzy's already got them all covered (LOL REAL LOUD)(PLEASE DON'T TAKE THAT LAST STATEMENT SERIOUSLY)(OH! YOU PROBABLY WILL SO WHAT THE HELL?). Enjoy and remember to be kind to someone today!!!
Sick of hearing about Marc Roetler and how good he is. He got owned by Harry McDermott last week and against Brisbane the week before. Izzy Tueta proved he's the best guard in the competition by his games against Gold Coast, Districts and South West. South West targeted him last week with cheap shots, pushing and holding and the refs let them get away with it. But he still made good even against the SW cheats. Their coach is creepy.

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the referees did not loose control of the game
they let a physical game of basketball (within the rules) be played
which was clearly what both teams were happy with
the game was actually officiated very well


and how is throwing an ASSISTANT coach for giving justin (the ref) an earful, and continued to go after being teched once. (resulting in an ejection.)

Redman was definably in the wrong. Justin was just about to approach the head coach to discuss what the coach wanted to and redman decided he'd take thinks into his own hands.. resulting in getting himself ejected and forfeiting the right for the head coach to discuss what ever it is he wanted too.

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How did he prove he is the best guard in the state against Districts when his side was defeated?

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How did he prove he is the best guard in the state against Districts when his side was defeated?

stupid question...it take a team to beat another team...

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Enough about individuals...

anyone able to give a run down all of the teams? strengths / weaknesses? predictions?

tips for next round?

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Enough about individuals...

anyone able to give a run down all of the teams? strengths / weaknesses? predictions?

tips for next round?
Round not quite over yet (but bloody good question!) cant find a weakness in the Districts set up. When you shut down one facet they light up with another one. For a team that's been touted as "not very deep" they still have a number of facets to their game and personnell roster. True that Gold Coast, SWM, Logan and Maroochydore have shown their "chinks in the armour" but all are well enough coached to have them corrected by second round. The skill will be in having identified the weakness they dont yet know they have. Tough competition ahead with some surprises in store.

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The point guard from districts outplayed Izzy both games last year and they beat maroochy this season but don't hear anything about his state chances whats the story who is better and why. Haven't seen either play this season

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Maroochy have the deepest team but keeping everyone happy will be interesting. Super athletic team though with scorers all over the place

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Waves v BBI. A Flightless Bird's Eye View

These Coast boys have decided they are gunna start slow and spend the game playing catchup! BBI came out firing. Macca, the Bendoes Wonderboy, played solid. Adam C sustained an eye injury and Jesse F, Maccas State teammate was up against him early in the game. A pretty physical match up it was with the points being shared for mine.

The Coast just didn't seem to be able to finish the plays. The bigs would do all the hard work in getting to the hole and then pop the shot off the rim or the guards would take some mid-range, reasonable percentage shots for no result. Having said that the BBI defense was very harrassing.

The Brisbane big, no. 15 was a vaccuum around the paint, pulling down heaps of rebounds.

So.... deep into the third quarter, the Coasties are down by 16 plus. They seemed to get their heads outa the sand at this point and slowly ground their way back into the game. Things started to drop, the Brizzos started to miss a few and Macca looked a bit tired after playing the whole game at pace. Corban Wroe may have started to feel the pain of all the charges he took and the Brisbane bigs stopped pulling down everything. So with a minute or two to go the Coast are down by a solitary point and looked to have some momentum.
The Brizzos regrouped and stopped the crawl back. In the last couple of seconds, Coast down by 3, time out called. Play was for J. Frankland to set up J. McCarthy or M. Gullotta for the three. Frankland goes to the usually reliable JayRod who shoots n misses, Gullotta gets the rebound sets for his own attempt and also misses. Overtime would have been fun to watch, but the Caps were prolly the derserved winners and the Coast have to go away and learn how to add consistancy to the game.

It was a "Cracker" of a game and supporters of both sides were thrilled by the spectacle. :bravo:

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Sick of hearing about Marc Roetler and how good he is. He got owned by Harry McDermott last week and against Brisbane the week before. Izzy Tueta proved he's the best guard in the competition by his games against Gold Coast, Districts and South West. South West targeted him last week with cheap shots, pushing and holding and the refs let them get away with it. But he still made good even against the SW cheats. Their coach is creepy.

Go have a talk to the so-called 'creepy' coach and you'll change your tune. Great guy and just loves the game and seeing kids improve

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couple good games this weekend...one in particular is brizzy vs mdoore. Any predictions? my money is on mdoore.

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Pretty big write up about the losing team and everyone on it including of course Mark Rottler. So what did maroochydore do to beat this great team you've written about? Their coaches must have known something and the players they must have done something good. Who were they? Rumour around that young male ref totally lost control of himself and SW went out and tried to take out the MD point guard with dirty play. You sure yure MD parent and actually saw the game?

Sure looks like the SW and Maroochydore game got some pople upset and hatin'. Would like to say how much a nice kid the SW Captain is. Yarning after the game he was very well mannered and personable and showed real sportsmanship in acknowledging Harry MacDermott's shut down of himself. Also says how much he would like to play alongside Isiah Tueta and by golly I'd like to be coaching the team if that ever happened. Throw in Jessie Hilleary and I reckon you have your guard requirements nailed in 3 rather than 4, leaving an opening for an additional "size" player who can swing back to the guards or forward to the front line. (MacDermott may in fact be the best candidate for such a role based on current form and production numbers)
Naturally the Semerand twins, David and Anthony come under immediate notice for their scoring abilities and ability to stretch the opposition defence on every touch, consistently play in stance, apply ball pressure consistently and contest every rebound as well as score from a variety of positions. Mathew Hodgson and Lachlan Miller would probably be the front line for rebounding and interior scoring duties. Throw in the ever reliable, super strength athletic work-horse Jed Miller (whose quickly developing a perimeter shot at good percentages) as fresh legs to rotate into this line and your left with one more position to fill.
Do you take Aden Walsh for an extra small forward who can get some things done when he's on his game? Do you take Mitch McCarron for his defensive shut-down and perimeter scoring capabilities? Do you get the sharp shooting Scott Willis from Districts, make him sprint lanes and lose a few pounds and throw him in ? Just who you would take for the last spot could be anyone. Only thing for sure, it's going to be a very tough week at Nationals for QLD STH in 2008 and the above team is just about the best we can muster from whats available this year. Effectively coached, properly motivated and well led this group could spring a couple of surprise results at the right time to get us into a play off spot. Once there, ANYTHING can happen and probably will.
Just some thoughts from a "wanna be coach"...

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The 2 givens would be the Semerad twins. All other positions remain open for the state side.

I doubt that any bottom agers will get a look in this year. McCarron just not strong enough to match it with the other top aged kids.

I wouldn't say that Izzy is assured of a spot either from a couple of his games that I have seen this season. Logan, Gold Coast and Districts guards are every bit as good if not better.

Good luck to all this weekend as the battles continue.

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Too much trash from Maroochydore on this board. Be assured that the state coach will not be influenced by their supporters or parents (lol Robert).


Lots of guards to select from depending on how the coach wants to play the game.

Gulotta
Chen
Gameron
McCarron
Willis
Tueta
Laycock
Hillary
Anthony Semerad
Vines
Roeteller
Mines

Good luck to the coach and the players he might select to do the job as it won't be easy.

You could select a decent side from just the guards!

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Too much trash from Maroochydore on this board. Be assured that the state coach will not be influenced by their supporters or parents (lol Robert).


Lots of guards to select from depending on how the coach wants to play the game.

Gulotta
Chen
Gameron
McCarron
Willis
Tueta
Laycock
Hillary
Anthony Semerad
Vines
Roeteller
Mines

Good luck to the coach and the players he might select to do the job as it won't be easy.

You could select a decent side from just the guards!
Maroochydore jealousies and Brisbane area biases aside, seems you picked a lot of players from teams who arent doing so well? Only 1 Semerand? and Andy Chen who hasnt played a decent game all season? You gotta be kidding or just someone who doesnt have a clue about basketball. (Afraid we wouldnt be "playing the game" at all no matter what way our esteemed coach wanted to play it if we took down the amount of guards you've alluded to here)

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Maroochydore jealousies and Brisbane area biases aside, seems you picked a lot of players from teams who arent doing so well? Only 1 Semerand? and Andy Chen who hasnt played a decent game all season? You gotta be kidding or just someone who doesnt have a clue about basketball. (Afraid we wouldnt be "playing the game" at all no matter what way our esteemed coach wanted to play it if we took down the amount of guards you've alluded to here)
Oops! Silly me! Just realised that you've just named all the guards in the competition...well not ALL the guards...(you left out Mitch Pleysier, James Mueller and Wez Phillips)...just a couple of guards who cn dunk in traffic when finishing in the lane and who would hold the highest number of rebounds stat for guards in the whole competition. You've just named anyone you can name who A) isnt from Maroochydore and b) isnt Izzy Tueta.
Mate there's no doubt about the likelihood that the coach will pick a mob of kids that satisfy some personal or political agenda for him personally rather than an actual functional team with a chance of doing something. A lot of deserving players have had to get used to that little anomoly in State teams under certain coaches in recent years. See if your still spruiking how good everyone else is after the State Classics have been run and won. Till then, yuk it up for your kids all you can, while you can.

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Sure looks like the SW and Maroochydore game got some pople upset and hatin'. Would like to say how much a nice kid the SW Captain is. Yarning after the game he was very well mannered and personable and showed real sportsmanship in acknowledging Harry MacDermott's shut down of himself. Also says how much he would like to play alongside Isiah Tueta and by golly I'd like to be coaching the team if that ever happened. Throw in Jessie Hilleary and I reckon you have your guard requirements nailed in 3 rather than 4, leaving an opening for an additional "size" player who can swing back to the guards or forward to the front line. (MacDermott may in fact be the best candidate for such a role based on current form and production numbers)
Naturally the Semerand twins, David and Anthony come under immediate notice for their scoring abilities and ability to stretch the opposition defence on every touch, consistently play in stance, apply ball pressure consistently and contest every rebound as well as score from a variety of positions. Mathew Hodgson and Lachlan Miller would probably be the front line for rebounding and interior scoring duties. Throw in the ever reliable, super strength athletic work-horse Jed Miller (whose quickly developing a perimeter shot at good percentages) as fresh legs to rotate into this line and your left with one more position to fill.
Do you take Aden Walsh for an extra small forward who can get some things done when he's on his game? Do you take Mitch McCarron for his defensive shut-down and perimeter scoring capabilities? Do you get the sharp shooting Scott Willis from Districts, make him sprint lanes and lose a few pounds and throw him in ? Just who you would take for the last spot could be anyone. Only thing for sure, it's going to be a very tough week at Nationals for QLD STH in 2008 and the above team is just about the best we can muster from whats available this year. Effectively coached, properly motivated and well led this group could spring a couple of surprise results at the right time to get us into a play off spot. Once there, ANYTHING can happen and probably will.
Just some thoughts from a "wanna be coach"...
Looks like a team that would go well. And the "selector" has at least given some reason behind his thinking (rather than just, "I dont like someone's father" or "dont like that purple club from the beach") Maybe you should give your selections and lets hear your logic and an insight to your knowledge of the game?

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The 2 givens would be the Semerad twins. All other positions remain open for the state side.

I doubt that any bottom agers will get a look in this year. McCarron just not strong enough to match it with the other top aged kids.

I wouldn't say that Izzy is assured of a spot either from a couple of his games that I have seen this season. Logan, Gold Coast and Districts guards are every bit as good if not better.

Good luck to all this weekend as the battles continue.

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Maroocydore by heaps over BBI

What do you mean by mitch mccarron is not strong enough? Is it that he doesn't have the physical strength? Or doesn't have the skill? Just wondering because the games that i have seen him play in (against South West and Gold Coast) he clearly brought a larger physical presence than the guards he was up against. Just curious.

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shut up get over this kid, everyone has their own opion, just get over it. by now u would relise that everyone gets bagged on this site, so just leave it alone and go form ur lil fann club and keep them of bendoes. geeze how about a limit of one headie per page for mitch maccaron!!

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Brisbane firsts played really well to go down to Maroochydore 93-85 in a pretty entertaining game. Tueta masterful and Maroochydore too solid in his groove with him for the Brisbane boys. Ex-Brisso, Wez Phillips, playing a fairly important role with an important defensive assignment as well as a dozen or so points for the Northern beachboys. McCarron and Hodgson best for the visitors.

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Big from Brisso was great. Really improved from last year and was a force to be reckoned with.
Coach kept subbing him out for extended periods and each time mdore built a lead. He led three comebacks once he went back on and had a huge dunk in traffic

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Big from Brisso was great. Really improved from last year and was a force to be reckoned with.
Coach kept subbing him out for extended periods and each time mdore built a lead. He led three comebacks once he went back on and had a huge dunk in traffic
Looked like Brisbane coach may have been conceding game with intention to beat Maroochydore by surprise later in season when it counts. Otherwise cant explain extended absences of Hodgson and McCarron leaving Maroochydore to build leads each time. Mind you, Maroochydore coach played his bench for extended periods also just got more production from his. Pretty good game with Brisbane playing very well. Maroochydore looking better every outing as roles and systems fall into place.

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u looser biggest exuse ever that pethetic brisbane were out played, worst excuse every, any way next time bris and mdore play harry, izzy, loky and wez wont be their. very big suprise victory.
u loooooooooser

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u looser biggest exuse ever that pethetic brisbane were out played, worst excuse every, any way next time bris and mdore play harry, izzy, loky and wez wont be their. very big suprise victory.
u loooooooooser
You boys have been drinking! Means heaps of quick 17's at practice Monday. I'm filthy!!!

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hahaha dont kid me the mdore boys had a good weekend, wont look any good wen they vs some real teams, like south west and gold coast and bbi 1, once prmier league starts u will see them fall to the woodern spooners.
Hmmm...seems none of these "real" teams have been able to cash the cheques their mouths go around writing.

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any other results form the w.e?
how did south west logan play out

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What happened between Logan and South West?
Did Gold Coast beat BBI Silver?

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My state team would be:

Starters: Izzi Tuota
Scott Willis
Anthony Semerad
David Semerad
Big from Gold Coast (dont know name)


Bench: Mitch McCarron
Michael Gullota
Jesse Hillary
Adan Walsh
Matt Hodgeson

Any comments?

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too short for nationals and not enough talent across the board

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too short for nationals and not enough talent across the board
And the alternatives are...??
Tueta and the Semerands have been to Nationals before and proven competitors at that level. Big from Goldy nowhere near the grade, Hodgson is. There's a case for Willis but Hillearay is faster and works the lanes much better. Willis suspect on D, Hilleary tough. Walsh would go alright, McCarron definately up to it. Have to make a decision between Gulotta and Roettler. This is where the State Coach has a clear conflict of interest. BQ should tell the guy and pick another one.

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any other results form the w.e?
how did south west logan play out

Logan won by 11 points with their bench playing good minutes and also closing out the final 3 or 4 minutes of the game. Simms was the standout for South West with Mines a close second. Simms & Mines are developing into excellent young guards with great handles. It proved very difficult for Logan to stay in front of Simms in particular when bringing the ball down the floor - Mines & Vines round out a very talented back court.

Don't know his name, but the # 30 that used to play for Toowoomba was a quiet acheiver and scored well when SW needed points to stay in it. Vines and Roeteller tried hard all night with Roeteller fouling out. Roetler worked hard inside both ends.

Recent results suggest that Logan are improving each week and look far better playing a running game when Gamaran runs the point. Gamaran, Hilary, Vastarink & big Josh were the best for Logan in a fairly cruisy win (given that the Logan starters were rested fairly regularly throughout). Morris & Barry were solid with the bench showing good depth. Vastarink was very strong inside topping all scorers with 22 points and pulling down a swag of rebounds as did Hilary scoring regularly from outside the 3-point arc and penetrating to the hole to finish with 21 and a number of rebounds and assists. Gamaran ran the point well when on the floor and shot the 3 from way down town. The Logan Guards, Hilary now at 6'4" and Gamaran now at 6'3" caused major match-up problems for SW. It was good to see Barry start to shoot the ball more and increase his confidence.

If the Logan Coach discovers Jordans (can't remember his last name) ability to run the floor and elevate for the easy lay-up where no one else can go things could get more interesting. Morris looks better when running the lanes instead of the point as well which frees up his natural ability to slash inside.

Good luck to South West... It won't be long before they return to the winners circle and hopefully Logan can continue their improvement and good form of late - They certainly won't be getting carried away with the win.

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#13 from runaway bay, the 'lismore kid' could be around in the squad for a while, he is the only real player who showed some form against districts on saturday night.

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Logan won by 11 points with their bench playing good minutes and also closing out the final 3 or 4 minutes of the game. Simms was the standout for South West with Mines a close second. Simms & Mines are developing into excellent young guards with great handles. It proved very difficult for Logan to stay in front of Simms in particular when bringing the ball down the floor - Mines & Vines round out a very talented back court.

Don't know his name, but the # 30 that used to play for Toowoomba was a quiet acheiver and scored well when SW needed points to stay in it. Vines and Roeteller tried hard all night with Roeteller fouling out. Roetler worked hard inside both ends.

Recent results suggest that Logan are improving each week and look far better playing a running game when Gamaran runs the point. Gamaran, Hilary, Vastarink & big Josh were the best for Logan in a fairly cruisy win (given that the Logan starters were rested fairly regularly throughout). Morris & Barry were solid with the bench showing good depth. Vastarink was very strong inside topping all scorers with 22 points and pulling down a swag of rebounds as did Hilary scoring regularly from outside the 3-point arc and penetrating to the hole to finish with 21 and a number of rebounds and assists. Gamaran ran the point well when on the floor and shot the 3 from way down town. The Logan Guards, Hilary now at 6'4" and Gamaran now at 6'3" caused major match-up problems for SW. It was good to see Barry start to shoot the ball more and increase his confidence.

If the Logan Coach discovers Jordans (can't remember his last name) ability to run the floor and elevate for the easy lay-up where no one else can go things could get more interesting. Morris looks better when running the lanes instead of the point as well which frees up his natural ability to slash inside.

Good luck to South West... It won't be long before they return to the winners circle and hopefully Logan can continue their improvement and good form of late - They certainly won't be getting carried away with the win.
Informative write up-Thank you. The kid Vines plays pretty hard and with a bit more technique development will turn out a pretty reasonable player. I was extremely impressed at Johnno Mines' ability to get his shot off so quickly whilst retaining good form and the correct amount of arc. That short "contact" time between ball receival and delivery and a decent make percentage is the early hallmark of an excellent shooter. Was particularly impressed with the accuracy and good percentages of the SWM bigger guys. Dont know names but they use their bulk well to establish rebounding and offensive positions around the key then seal/hold/release into fairly unhurried shots with a high degreen ofn accuracy. With Roettler's penetrate and dish capability and Mines getting off the good 3 most times this all combines to produce a team that overachieves for the amount of talent they have on paper. Every time I see Logan play I see this big ball of athletic potential bursting at the seams to break loose and do something and I have the feeling that they will when it counts at the end of the season. If Hilleary can stay healthy (not overtrain and burn himself out ala Brendan Teys) and stay happy within the team dynamic he's a dead set scoring nightmare for opposition coaches. No conscience and a shooters mentality which will open huge runs for them. Vasterink and Gammeron are extremely handy players as well who have a ton of ability and enjoy playing as a spoke of the wheel with team mates to make it happen. Logan probably just need a bit of experienced guidance to get themselves on track and I have the feeling that the guys will work it out for themselves before seasons end anyway. Some of those kids come from a strong basketball pedigree and the game is in their genes.

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With 3 games to go till the Christmas recess wondering how different teams are feeling about their position at this time, their achievements against goals set earlier and their realistic outlook and whether they will be able to achieve after the break and the run home to finals and Classics. Is everyone just flagging the BQJBC and set their peak meter for the Classics?
Some pretty high opinions and expectations of some teams pre season and earlier on, so how are those teams looking now? Who will make the semi-final of BQJBC? Who will make the Grand Final? Who will win it? Who will win Classics and by how much?
Any clues?

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With 3 games to go till the Christmas recess wondering how different teams are feeling about their position at this time, their achievements against goals set earlier and their realistic outlook and whether they will be able to achieve after the break and the run home to finals and Classics. Is everyone just flagging the BQJBC and set their peak meter for the Classics?
Some pretty high opinions and expectations of some teams pre season and earlier on, so how are those teams looking now? Who will make the semi-final of BQJBC? Who will make the Grand Final? Who will win it? Who will win Classics and by how much?
Any clues?

Great questions!

Iv'e got 30 minutes or so to kill, so can I take a slightly different angle and have a stab (that could be way of the mark! Also interested in other peoples point of view for a bit of fun) at what u/18 Boys PL Teams might be thinking in the first person?

Here goes anyway:

Spartans - Undefeated! Would have to be happy with that you would think. There are areas to work on for sure and our bench are doing better than expected by non-spartans. We are beatable, and everyone knows it, but don't take to long as we will improve more like everyone else. South West got a sniff of victory against us last time and we just got the win, so they'll probably come at us harder than anyone in round two. We'll look after them better next time though. Due to not great depth we could be in a spot of bother however if any one of our starters, particularly the Semerards or Willis, become sick, injured or in early foul trouble. We are one of the favourites to win Classics and we are quietly confident if key players can stay on the floor.

Maroochydore - We're happy. Second on the table. Pretty good, but we thought we would be on top. We can get Spartans next time but it will be tough to roll them if we can't work out a way to bench Dave or Anthony Semerard earlier rather than later. Stopping Willis next time will be a challenge to. Love our passion on the floor and on the bench and we can run the floor like a wounded bull when we are in the groove. We are still working on our consistency across the whole game. If we can get that right look-out all comers! A few teams have really worried us so far at different stages of games but we got away with it in the end. We have to be more consistent than that if we want to be State Champions. But Yeah, we're confident.

Brisbane Capitols - Third on the table. Pretty happy with that as we weren't quite sure what to expect with a new look team and some bottom agers filling key roles but doing a good & occasionally great job. We are probably about where we thought we would be at this early stage. We've got all the right ingredients with height, speed and skill to be real contenders if we can gain the necassary skill and composure in clutch situations and when the pressure is really on. Probably a sympton of jelling a new combination and waiting for our bottom age players to become more seasoned, of which we see in patches. Don't think we'll be State Champions, but don't be surprised if we do after experience kicks in more before Townsville. Not sure if we'll beat every team we play this season but you can bet your bottom dollar that they'll all be treating us with a "lot of respect" or we'll hand there butts back to them with a loss.

Gold Coast - A bit dissapointed so far we suppose. Beating Logan gave us a temporary lift and some more self belief. Went close to Brisbane as well! That was the one that got away but we took a lot away from the narrow loss. Plenty of room for improvement since we have some height and some great players. A few bottom agers that are good players and will improve with experience. We look the goods but are struggling with chemistry on the floor some of the time. Great point guard that can get the job done under pressure and some bigs inside. We need our bigs to be way more consistent though. Getting the ball inside isn't a problem, it's making the basket consistently that hurts us. We can work on that though and get a "lot better as a result". Probably won't be State Champions but thats always our Goal. Who knows!

South West - Brilliant Ball handlers coming out of our ears! Simms, Johno, Vines! Lots of skill and we play really hard! But will someone please... please... send a skilled big in the mail or leave one under the Xmas tree this year. Roetteler can't bang on the boards all game every game by himself, most of the time. We've got some good size but the bigs need to step up more and play consistently or we won't compete against the better, bigger teams in the comp. We struggle a lot at times but really look great when things are running smoothly and we are in good form. We're capable of beating most teams but probably won't unless our bigs get more involved and we get more production out of them. Probably won't be State Champions but have a few tricks up our sleeve if we can fill the missing parts in our puzzle. So don't rule us out!

Logan - Not Happy Chappy! Few rated us pre-season and we'll prove them right if we don't get moving and realise our potential. Must admit though that we have really improved big time over the past two weeks. Athleticism and speed to burn! We have more scoring options than a statistician! Even our last player off the bench is a great shooter from down town... But for Goodness Sake! GIVE ME SOME CONSISTENCY! When we are good we are awesome! But when we are bad we are horrible! Oh yeah, and did I say we can be horrible? State U/16 Champions last year and seven of them in our team. Seasoning! Seasoning! Seasoning! Apparently Hilary & Vastarink are only "just" top age as well, "just " missing out on being bottom agers by a whisker... We have the youngest team in the league but could be anything if the Gods smile on our chemistry and increasing experience. We trouble any team when we are playing well with the right combinations. Probably won't be State Champions unless the sleeping giant awakens! Anythings possible when you look at our depth, talent and overall height which causes real match up problems for most teams.

Brisbane Silver & Runaway Bay - We know we don't have the experience or skill to be contenders. We'll just use this year as a learning experience and hopefully stay in Premier League without relegation after the challenge from Southern Cup Teams. A few patches of good play but to few & far between to trouble the other PL Teams.

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Great questions!


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Unreal post!! Pretty close to the mark on all counts I reckon. To divulge any more about any particular team would be giving away tradeable information. Good read.

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Watch out for the Brisbane Silvers to shock the hell out of Maroochydore this weekend!

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Maroochydore, Logan and Gold Coast have the most scope for improvement and therfore the top 3 selections for premier league finals and classics.

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Jessie Hilary alright he makes some dumb decisions vital turnovers sometimes, thought he would of grown out of that by now.

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Interesting posts about the teams. Lets not forget that states arenot just a comp for southern teams. We dont know what they have up north so we better be careful in talking it up too much

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Jessie Hilary alright he makes some dumb decisions vital turnovers sometimes, thought he would of grown out of that by now.

Just watched a Michael Jordan Bloopers High Light Reel.... Missed more shots in the NBA than any other player in one season, some horrendous turnovers in clutch situations, lots of incredibly embarrassing moments when he just shook his head, air balls, lots of bad choices!

Then watched his greatest moments DVD afterwards... Game winning shots that no one else could make! Wanted the ball in the pressure situations when no one else did... Incredible passion and will to win... Never ever stopped trying... Had the ball in his hands more than any other player... Bravery to try things on the floor that may or may not come off...

Just as well for Michael his memorable moments out weighed his bloopers and bad decisions. Thats what the World remembers him for. Might be a message in that somewhere for all players of all ages and spectators...

And Oh yeah! At sixteen Michael Jordan just started to turn the corner as a good player but still had woeful defense and a poor outside shot... Maybe our young players are not Michael Jordan, and maybe never will be... Who knows at this young age? But show me the perfect player and I'll show you where Alien Head Quarters on Earth is...

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Interesting posts about the teams. Lets not forget that states arenot just a comp for southern teams. We dont know what they have up north so we better be careful in talking it up too much

Respect your comment and you are spot on! I expect the North will have some really strong contenders! Just had some fun with what teams in the South might be thinking. Cheers!

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Gladstone is smashing everyone in CQ Division, cant rule them out either.

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Gladstone is smashing everyone in CQ Division, cant rule them out either.
Gladstone pushed Maroochydore during a pre-season encounter at Noosa. Maroochydore by 2-3 points. Gladstone are tough!

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Gladstone pushed Maroochydore during a pre-season encounter at Noosa. Maroochydore by 2-3 points. Gladstone are tough!

Any premier league teams looking for some games prior to the restart of the season (after the Xmas break) please contact me

ie. weekend of 19th /20th or 26/27th. We are willing to travel if we can get a couple of games over the course of a weekend. Could be a good hit out, if your team is looking to get back into the swing of things after the break.

email: raycooper4@hotmail.com

Thanks

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Respect your comment and you are spot on! I expect the North will have some really strong contenders! Just had some fun with what teams in the South might be thinking. Cheers!

No worries. No offence taken at all. Just dont forget about us. Or maybe thats a good thing if you do!

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Great questions!


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That's the best post post I've read on this forum!!! :hifive:

Who is this masked man??? :confused:

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good game to all boys but sims and jono didnt play that well they played about 50+ mins between them, and only scored less than 10. and jesse isnt 6-4 ethan is taller than him anyway so study up next time mate

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good game to all boys but sims and jono didnt play that well they played about 50+ mins between them, and only scored less than 10. and jesse isnt 6-4 ethan is taller than him anyway so study up next time mate

We're all entitled to our opinion mate, so good on you for expressing yours. A lot of people agree that Simms & Jono played well irrespective of how many minutes you say they played or how many points they scored... Ethan & Jess are great mates and also play A Mens GBL together, and not that it's important, but Ethan will be the first one to tell you that Jess is the taller of the two (at the moment anyway). Who really cares, but Hilleary is a definite 6' 4" as I know him well. I'm 6'2" and looking up at him whenever we've had a chat... So don't talk to me about facts mate! Sounds like short mans syndrome and a bit of jealousy ey... "mate!"

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Watch out for the Brisbane Silvers to shock the hell out of Maroochydore this weekend!

Only if they hook a 240 volt live wire to the Maroochydore boys in the Shower!

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That's the best post post I've read on this forum!!! :hifive:

Who is this masked man??? :confused:

Thanks EMU! Appreciate the complement. Have never said so, but I enjoy reading your posts to... I rarely post anything on BenDoes, but every now and then my altar ego escapes and commits horrendous crimes against the literary arts!

If I ever told you who I was I would probably have to kidnap & blind-fold you in exchange for a hefty ransom before slipping off into oblivion again...

And who says I'm a man EMU! Tisk! Tisk! Basically, I'm a 5'10" swedish model (that loves Basketball) with an incredible bod, blonde, tan, drop dead gorgeous good looks and I work for the Secret Service... Thats all I can tell you at this point in time. I have to go now and adjust my incredibly tight G-string bikini before heading off on my next mission... Who knows when I'll pop up again? "OUCH! Those Brazilians really sting!"

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Maroochydore - We're happy. Second on the table. Pretty good, but we thought we would be on top. We can get Spartans next time but it will be tough to roll them if we can't work out a way to bench Dave or Anthony Semerard earlier rather than later. Stopping Willis next time will be a challenge to. Love our passion on the floor and on the bench and we can run the floor like a wounded bull when we are in the groove. We are still working on our consistency across the whole game. If we can get that right look-out all comers! A few teams have really worried us so far at different stages of games but we got away with it in the end. We have to be more consistent than that if we want to be State Champions. But Yeah, we're confident.

Who said the standard of correspondent on BenDoes isnt on the improve??!!!
Pretty fair commentary and interesting view on the other teams too. Not right about us thinking we would be on top though. My aim was to win enough games by doing the bare minimum training wise and technically to get into top 4 by Christmas break. So far we only practice once a week and are running with 2 offensive sets which are old as hell and are just now experimenting with a zone change up. I'm giving the boys a good break up till Xmas but will open the stadium 3 afternoons a week for "drop in" individuals if they want. We've got a few beach and surfing activities planned which will keep the fitness side going but generally the plan is to refresh and restart so we start serious practice, fitness training, regulated diet and new technical content mid January and build on that weekly with the peak date being the final day of Classics in Townsville. Anything achieved before that day is a bonus but that is our ultimate goal. Whether we achieve it or not is in the hands of ourselves and providence but whatever happens we wont be leaving anything out on the floor and will guarantee we've had the best possible time as a group in doing so.
I still see Districts as the team we have the most difficulty with. We have definate match up problems which always seems to end up with one of our bigs needing to play out of the key and foul prone againt a shorter quicker opponent. I have a plan,... however. Apart from that they are just so fundamentally "clean" and well drilled and fast that you cant afford to lapse (which we are prone to do) or they jump you and you cant pull them back.
For Classics, I hear player movement rumours that make me think Mackay are going to be pretty tough. (Dunno how true they are but possible.) When you consider that 7 of that very slick Townsville side from last year were bottom age and they are predominately "big" with a red hot point guard (Heuer?) they (Townsville) assume favouritism in my book. Cairns will be troublesome as they always are and look out for Gladstone to win more than they lose and spoil a number of teams title hopes. Watch out for Brisbane to finish the season strongly down here. Hold strong for the remaining games and have a bumper Chrissy break...safely!

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Maroochydore - We're happy. Second on the table. Pretty good, but we thought we would be on top. We can get Spartans next time but it will be tough to roll them if we can't work out a way to bench Dave or Anthony Semerard earlier rather than later. Stopping Willis next time will be a challenge to. Love our passion on the floor and on the bench and we can run the floor like a wounded bull when we are in the groove. We are still working on our consistency across the whole game. If we can get that right look-out all comers! A few teams have really worried us so far at different stages of games but we got away with it in the end. We have to be more consistent than that if we want to be State Champions. But Yeah, we're confident.

Who said the standard of correspondent on BenDoes isnt on the improve??!!!
Pretty fair commentary and interesting view on the other teams too. Not right about us thinking we would be on top though. My aim was to win enough games by doing the bare minimum training wise and technically to get into top 4 by Christmas break. So far we only practice once a week and are running with 2 offensive sets which are old as hell and are just now experimenting with a zone change up. I'm giving the boys a good break up till Xmas but will open the stadium 3 afternoons a week for "drop in" individuals if they want. We've got a few beach and surfing activities planned which will keep the fitness side going but generally the plan is to refresh and restart so we start serious practice, fitness training, regulated diet and new technical content mid January and build on that weekly with the peak date being the final day of Classics in Townsville. Anything achieved before that day is a bonus but that is our ultimate goal. Whether we achieve it or not is in the hands of ourselves and providence but whatever happens we wont be leaving anything out on the floor and will guarantee we've had the best possible time as a group in doing so.
I still see Districts as the team we have the most difficulty with. We have definate match up problems which always seems to end up with one of our bigs needing to play out of the key and foul prone againt a shorter quicker opponent. I have a plan,... however. Apart from that they are just so fundamentally "clean" and well drilled and fast that you cant afford to lapse (which we are prone to do) or they jump you and you cant pull them back.
For Classics, I hear player movement rumours that make me think Mackay are going to be pretty tough. (Dunno how true they are but possible.) When you consider that 7 of that very slick Townsville side from last year were bottom age and they are predominately "big" with a red hot point guard (Heuer?) they (Townsville) assume favouritism in my book. Cairns will be troublesome as they always are and look out for Gladstone to win more than they lose and spoil a number of teams title hopes. Watch out for Brisbane to finish the season strongly down here. Hold strong for the remaining games and have a bumper Chrissy break...safely!

Where was your usual game report?? I love reading them and was thoroughly disapointed to see that you hadn't posted one..

Just a curious fan..

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State Team:
Starter:
1. Izzy Tueta
2. Jessie HIllary
3. Anthony Samerad
4. David Samerad
5. Lochlan Miller/Matty Hodgonsen?

Bench:
1. Micheal Guloter
2. Scott Willis (if he puts in work on his fitness)/Tom Laycock
3. Harry Macdermot
4. Aiden Walsh/Jed Turner
5. Lochlan Miller/Matty Hodgonsen?

any thoughts???

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State Team:
Starter:
1. Izzy Tueta
2. Jessie HIllary
3. Anthony Samerad
4. David Samerad
5. Lochlan Miller/Matty Hodgonsen?

Bench:
1. Micheal Guloter
2. Scott Willis (if he puts in work on his fitness)/Tom Laycock
3. Harry Macdermot
4. Aiden Walsh/Jed Turner
5. Lochlan Miller/Matty Hodgonsen?

any thoughts???
Looks like a pretty good side and good to see MacDermott getting some recognition. He's been awesome on boards and finishing in the lane the last 3-4 games against all comers. First five is pretty spot on IMHO. Mind you it doesnt really matter with Lachie and Matty as you'd rotate them all game, maybe strting with Lach for a little more offensive finesse and sometimes start both of them as twin towers/high low. Bench wise, (and I'd never pick the starters or give the players any clue as to who are the starters until the pre game of the first match!)...I feel you need to insert Roetler's name next to Googs Gulotta as a possible alternative. Googs probably gets the nod for his ability to rotate for Izzy with a little more 'pure point' savvy than Marc. There's a case for both however. Maybe put Roettler on the line with Willis and Laycock as a possible alternate to that line?? Agree with Turner getting consideration. The kid just keeps growing and filling out, is getting faster and more athleti,c and has developed a percentge shot from beyond the arc. Tough decision as Aden goes well too and has talent.
Yep! A team I'd like to be coaching, even against the awesome size and talent of NSW and VIC Country to name just two.
Please dont give no crap about "pushing" Maroochydore kids either! When I offer an opinion on a possible State team its a genuine assessment of the player talent available and their ability to meld into the team environment, take whatever role is assigned them and excel and over achieve in it, do the 1percenters and make their team mates better and do it all in the Nationals arena...in my humble opinion. Its a big ask for a kid and only the very strong survive and do well.

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Looks like a pretty good side and good to see MacDermott getting some recognition. He's been awesome on boards and finishing in the lane the last 3-4 games against all comers. First five is pretty spot on IMHO. Mind you it doesnt really matter with Lachie and Matty as you'd rotate them all game, maybe strting with Lach for a little more offensive finesse and sometimes start both of them as twin towers/high low. Bench wise, (and I'd never pick the starters or give the players any clue as to who are the starters until the pre game of the first match!)...I feel you need to insert Roetler's name next to Googs Gulotta as a possible alternative. Googs probably gets the nod for his ability to rotate for Izzy with a little more 'pure point' savvy than Marc. There's a case for both however. Maybe put Roettler on the line with Willis and Laycock as a possible alternate to that line?? Agree with Turner getting consideration. The kid just keeps growing and filling out, is getting faster and more athleti,c and has developed a percentge shot from beyond the arc. Tough decision as Aden goes well too and has talent.
Yep! A team I'd like to be coaching, even against the awesome size and talent of NSW and VIC Country to name just two.
Please dont give no crap about "pushing" Maroochydore kids either! When I offer an opinion on a possible State team its a genuine assessment of the player talent available and their ability to meld into the team environment, take whatever role is assigned them and excel and over achieve in it, do the 1percenters and make their team mates better and do it all in the Nationals arena...in my humble opinion. Its a big ask for a kid and only the very strong survive and do well.

Sorry but Mcdermott laycock and gulotta might be good rep players but thats about all. Nationaals is a different ball game, they are just not in that league

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Sorry but Mcdermott laycock and gulotta might be good rep players but thats about all. Nationaals is a different ball game, they are just not in that league
Agree to an extent about Gulotta and Laycock but MacDermott is the real deal. Has outplayed, outscored, outrebounded and out muscled Walsh and Hodgson this year in competition and State training. He's in the same grade as Miller and the twins. Surprising the improvement, I know, but the kid has made a major commitment to his basketbll through changes to his personal life and is now showing the benefits of intense coaching and lifestyle commitments. Expect Walsh to improve markedly in the new year as he has similar raw talent and equivalent desire to MacDermott just not sure he's with the correct team and coach to maximise his development potential. Might be wrong but still waiting for the potential he showed last year with Maroochydore to eventuate this year.

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Gullottaand Walsh will shine and defeat dsistricts at home tonight.

Districts without Laycock (injured) are vulnerable tonight.

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Gullottaand Walsh will shine and defeat dsistricts at home tonight.

Districts without Laycock (injured) are vulnerable tonight.
Here's hoping. It's about time for them to show something being the personal favourites of the state coach (currently) and all.

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logan defeated brisbane tonight, i think it was 70 logan - 62 Brisbane caps, great teamplay by ogan.

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Mdore beat BBI Silver as expected
30 odd points

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A bit of an update - Logan defeated Brisbane Capitols 70 to 64 after Logan gave up a 16 point lead with 4 or 5 minutes to go. Logan looked as if they were going to blow Brisbane out when they got to 16 up, but to Brisbanes credit they hit a couple of big threes in the final 90 seconds and got to the charity stripe a few times which "considerabley" closed the gap.

Logan were in front on the scoreboard throughout the entire game but looked stagnant down the stretch taking the pedal off the metal way to early. Brisbane obviously sensed the lapse in Logans intensity at the death and went to a full court press. Lucky for Logan they handle pressure well as Brisbane were'nt prepared to give up at any stage and really worked hard in an attempt to bring it home. Logan looked relatively comfortable "most" of the night and rotated players from the bench freely.

Logans main cause for discomfort was when Brisbanes' big 6'10" (approx?)Centre Matt crashed the boards, made some good put-backs and blocked a few shots inside! Talking with some of the Logan Boys after the game they were really impressed with Matts development gaining their respect as a real force in the PL and a great prospect. Logan would freely admit that they would have been rubbing their hands together in a sigh of relief when Matt was taken out of the game with only two minutes remaining, however, his replacement was in fact the player that hit the two big threes down the final stretch...

Both Brisbane & Logan are really tough teams that go hard at all times and will demand lots of respect from all opponents...

Logans Assistant Coach Dave (forgot last name?) stepped in as head Coach this week with Coach Justin Vasterink helping out as Assistant - they did a great job with Logans combinations looking better than in previous weeks at key stages of the game.

Logan are sharing the ball and scoring around well... their defense and team work under pressure are the most notable improvements. They continue to improve each week and are still no where near their peak potential which is obviously exciting for them - Logan are tough because they have a deep bench and everyone can score right down to number 10. If you double up on anyone in particular they are capable of changing there roles to "assist" and lighting up elsewhere, which they did against Brisbane... Brisbane have all the right ingredients for a good team... You would be silly to ever under-estimate them.

Its great to watch so many players of the future from both teams on the floor at the same time. All in all, an entertaining first half and a fairly ugly, slow second half due to high foul counts for both teams. Logan deserved winners and the better team on the night.

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A bit of an update - Logan defeated Brisbane Capitols 70 to 64 after Logan gave up a 16 point lead with 4 or 5 minutes to go. Logan looked as if they were going to blow Brisbane out when they got to 16 up, but to Brisbanes credit they hit a couple of big threes in the final 90 seconds and got to the charity stripe a few times which "considerabley" closed the gap.

Logan were in front on the scoreboard throughout the entire game but looked stagnant down the stretch taking the pedal off the metal way to early. Brisbane obviously sensed the lapse in Logans intensity at the death and went to a full court press. Lucky for Logan they handle pressure well as Brisbane were'nt prepared to give up at any stage and really worked hard in an attempt to bring it home. Logan looked relatively comfortable "most" of the night and rotated players from the bench freely.

Logans main cause for discomfort was when Brisbanes' big 6'10" (approx?)Centre Matt crashed the boards, made some good put-backs and blocked a few shots inside! Talking with some of the Logan Boys after the game they were really impressed with Matts development gaining their respect as a real force in the PL and a great prospect. Logan would freely admit that they would have been rubbing their hands together in a sigh of relief when Matt was taken out of the game with only two minutes remaining, however, his replacement was in fact the player that hit the two big threes down the final stretch...

Both Brisbane & Logan are really tough teams that go hard at all times and will demand lots of respect from all opponents...

Logans Assistant Coach Dave (forgot last name?) stepped in as head Coach this week with Coach Justin Vasterink helping out as Assistant - they did a great job with Logans combinations looking better than in previous weeks at key stages of the game.

Logan are sharing the ball and scoring around well... their defense and team work under pressure are the most notable improvements. They continue to improve each week and are still no where near their peak potential which is obviously exciting for them - Logan are tough because they have a deep bench and everyone can score right down to number 10. If you double up on anyone in particular they are capable of changing there roles to "assist" and lighting up elsewhere, which they did against Brisbane... Brisbane have all the right ingredients for a good team... You would be silly to ever under-estimate them.

Its great to watch so many players of the future from both teams on the floor at the same time. All in all, an entertaining first half and a fairly ugly, slow second half due to high foul counts for both teams. Logan deserved winners and the better team on the night.

Did the state coach see any of these excellent prospects in action or does he pick his teams from who does training drills good ?

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Mdore beat BBI Silver as expected
30 odd points
Last year League winning and Classics finalist Coach, Neil Strudwick, has the Brisbane boys running better and on the improve every week. Classic Brisso side with a few huge 'bigs' and now a couple of decent shooters starting to find their range and confidence. Being developed nicely by this quiet achiever coach and his assistant. Maroochydore never in doubt and we utilised the game to run a new offensive pattern (didnt work...), run a new full court press (didnt work...) and run a new zone D (didnt work...)
The boys played well enough anyway and are now looking forward to their Geelong end of year school trip with some basketball thrown in and a good rest through to commencement of training Mid-January. Gold Coast have requested a postponement of our scheduled game against them as they'll have half their team away on the appointed date. I've agreed to that and requested the same of BBI for our game against them as half the team goes to Geelong for Schools next week. BBI Coach doing the sportsmanlike thing by us also so looks like last night was our last hit out for 2007. See you all in 2008.

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State Team:
Starter:
1. Izzy Tueta
2. Jessie HIllary
3. Anthony Samerad
4. David Samerad
5. Lochlan Miller/Matty Hodgonsen?

Bench:
1. Micheal Guloter
2. Scott Willis (if he puts in work on his fitness)/Tom Laycock
3. Harry Macdermot
4. Aiden Walsh/Jed Turner
5. Lochlan Miller/Matty Hodgonsen?

any thoughts???
Yea willis fitness I wouldnt worry about that he is deseptive

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does anyone know what happened at trials today?
who is in the squad?
who got dropped?

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Dropped today were Vines, Juelio & Willis.

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ahh true
how many does that leave in the squad now?
and who are they?

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Dropped today were Vines, Juelio & Willis.

willis was never dropped....he pulled out himself

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willis didnt pull out or get cut, just u people trying to make a story, ill pay it but hahah

people that got cut today are = ryan vines, juelio palez, wesley phillips

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willis didnt pull out or get cut, just u people trying to make a story, ill pay it but hahah

people that got cut today are = ryan vines, juelio palez, wesley phillips

willis did pull out, i was there and asked him personally

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Did the state coach see any of these excellent prospects in action or does he pick his teams from who does training drills good ?

Fair enough comment!

Most would agree with you including me, that some players aren't great trainers but are the best performers in game situations...

Is it just me, or are there many others that see inadequate processes for selecting state rep players and QAS scholarship holders? Some of the players & coaches definitely deserve to be where they are, but I don't think BQ realise just how many people and coaches outside of their own system are disgruntled with the whole process which most see as really out of step with cutting edge programs in other successful sports and player development pathways. I know all sports are political, and only the idealist would say otherwise, but we all know that a big "re-vamp" is now required if we want to compete with other sports and encourage people to stay in Basketball.

So come on BQ, survey the people for the people. You might be surprised just how much knowledge and expertise is out here. Then pay Sport Consultants that are "Expert & Leaders in their field" to do the research for you and "get it right"! Then roll the plan out and don't let it gather dust on a dark and hidden shelf. If the plan already exists, where can we find it to give some feedback and ideas?

We want leadership, not just management or the status quo. Excite "us" with "our" vision, not just "your" vision. Innovate. Work "with" us, not "around" us. Mix our old boys and old girls with encyclopedias of basketball and contemporary business knowledge with our exciting and passionate leaders of the future... Our youth and young adults are so dynamic they'll blow us away with their energy and ideas for the future!

Find out why the majority of our past elite and legends don't put back into our great game even though they live next door. I know exactly why... Do you? Invite, invite, invite. Ask, ask, ask. Be a student, student, student. Empower, empower, empower. Innovate, innovate, innovate. Review & change, review & change, review & change. Let's actually win more than one National Championship across all age groups every thirty years! The South do it with monotonous regularity. Why not us?

I love this game! You love this game! We all love this game! So for the love "of the game" lets not let it fall any further. Lets get real. Lets get contemporary, even futuristic. The oldies tell me that the glory days of the eighties were awesome! 12,000 people at Boondall for a Bullets game! Leroy Loggins one of our most prominent athlete across all sports in the media! Stronger basketball fundamentals and training culture across clubs! Scrimmages everywhere! Oh how we have pailed into insignificance now in comparison to the 80's... Even though Brisbane are current NBL Champions!

In relation to player selection processes, it would be great to see a typical American style selection process included in BQ's State program where they continually run scrimmage games at Blue Chip days / camps and mix the match-ups and combinations. Ron Ratliff and Rob Schiebner did this with last years U/18 Sth Qld Team by organising a stack of full 5 on 5 scrimmage games at training and fully officiated games against QABL & SEABL Teams; They also ran the same drills that the Bullets do to identify how good players were with their individual and team skills which really left nowhere for players to hide. Either you could do it or you couldn't do it... No in between, no guess work, no room for bias, no room for excuses... A great process!!!

This is why a number of so called "name players" were cut from the squad early or didn't make the team... They simply didn't pass the comprehensive skills testing or show enough X-Factor during "actual" games if they were'nt particularly quick or athletic. 5 on 5 scrimmages and actual games allow players to really show themselves and what they bring to a team, even if they are bad trainers. Andrew Gaze, Larry Bird & Tim Duncan are all slow and have poor athleticism, but their X-Factor is larger than life an undeniable. Structured training drills alone don't show the big picture.

So where did such a fantastic process go you might ask? Out the door with last years U/18 boys state coaches is where... Be nice to get it back!

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Tat is the best post ever written. You can be as tall as you like, work hard etc but if you havent got it then you havent got it. Why do kids pull out. Politics and coaches that have not really played much (but you can get by with that). Scrimmage all the way and the skills will improve under pressure. Teach them to play instead of having the perfect this o that.The above writer is switched on. Well said.I am a believer!!!

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Im prettyy sure the state coach has never played and dose not have the game savy it takes to makea good team. Ron ratliff had played before and he knows what makes a good team, not perfectly executed drills (although that helps once the team is piked), but game savy and players who can understand the game and are basketball smart. Chris riches has not really had much success with his methods in the past, so why does he have the job???

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Im prettyy sure the state coach has never played and dose not have the game savy it takes to makea good team. Ron ratliff had played before and he knows what makes a good team, not perfectly executed drills (although that helps once the team is piked), but game savy and players who can understand the game and are basketball smart. Chris riches has not really had much success with his methods in the past, so why does he have the job???
Great question!!! Can be sure you'll never get an answer from BQ but.

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News confirmed that Scott Willis withdrew from state squad after discussions with Chris on Sunday morning prior to training commencing.

Bigger shock is that he will not play premier league next year which will seriously jeopodise Districts chances to win classics.

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News confirmed that Scott Willis withdrew from state squad after discussions with Chris on Sunday morning prior to training commencing.

Bigger shock is that he will not play premier league next year which will seriously jeopodise Districts chances to win classics.

that is not special news really. maybe he is leaving for other reasons. who said he is not playing next year anyway. State team could look like those interested and left standing. sure he will leave a gap but someone else will step up. maybe he is just burnt out

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that is not special news really. maybe he is leaving for other reasons. who said he is not playing next year anyway. State team could look like those interested and left standing. sure he will leave a gap but someone else will step up. maybe he is just burnt out
Dont think he was ever a serious contender for the State team anyhow and plenty of capable and keen athletes ready to wear the maroon with pride. Districts however are sure going to miss his scoring from beyond the arc when they get bogged in the half court game.
Is it for real or another in/out, on/off thing like Karva?

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if scott has lost interest then that is his decision. he is just growing up and spreading his wings ..there are other things to life other than basketball. a 16 year old has a lot to keep himself busy ...pity help any kid who only has one feather in his cap!!! there are only so many spots in the big league and plenty of contenders. and yes there will be kids to step up and fill positions...that is life isn't it?

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As our family, the Hilleary family, rarely gets to see you Scott, we hope you get to read this message or one of your friends tells you about it. Sadly, somebody told us that they read on BenDoes that you were giving up the game, and we felt compelled to visit this forum, check it out for ourselves, and wish you all the best for your future - "if" the rumours are true, and we hope they are not.

If the rumours are true, and you are in fact giving Basketball away, remember to keep an open mind about the possibility of returning to play in the future. If the rumours are false, we are relieved that Basketball isn't losing you.

You are an excellent young player and an even better person; Anyone who has met you knows that. At only 16 you have a ton of time to go to the beach and try other stuff, not to mention focus on your year 12 studies. Basketball is in your blood and you won't be able to escape its irresistable pull. Irrespective of how you feel right now, one thing is for sure - You'll be back some day! We hope!

Time goes by so quickly, and it seems like only yesterday when you were banging heads in under 12 PL with our Logan Boys and our Son Jesse who knows and greatly respects you as a friend and player. For those families like ours that have been around since miniball and watched you grow and mature, things won't be quite the same without seeing you run onto the floor with a team somewhere causing havoc with smart plays and 3-point bombs!

I'm sure you will fill your life with rewarding and enjoyable activities in place of our demanding "all year round" sport called Basketball. We are sad to see you go and hope that you'll be back on the scene sooner rather than later. Jess reckons you'll feel "full weird" for a little while actually having some spare time! Stay away from the TV, Play Station & Cookies though!

Best Wishes & Best of Luck Scottie! The Hillearys'

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Scott Willis has withdrawn from the State U/18 Squad but will still be playing for Spartans in the U/18 PL. So part of the rumour is right and the other part is wrong according to Scott himself.

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i felt very moved and emotionally touched by the previous lengthy comment added in regards to scott willis' future involvements in basketball. have you considered being an actor.

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Can we move on from SW. Its over. Why dont you just ring him up instead of posting all of this dribble. What else is happening

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As our family, the Hilleary family, rarely gets to see you Scott, we hope you get to read this message or one of your friends tells you about it. Sadly, somebody told us that they read on BenDoes that you were giving up the game, and we felt compelled to visit this forum, check it out for ourselves, and wish you all the best for your future - "if" the rumours are true, and we hope they are not.

If the rumours are true, and you are in fact giving Basketball away, remember to keep an open mind about the possibility of returning to play in the future. If the rumours are false, we are relieved that Basketball isn't losing you.

You are an excellent young player and an even better person; Anyone who has met you knows that. At only 16 you have a ton of time to go to the beach and try other stuff, not to mention focus on your year 12 studies. Basketball is in your blood and you won't be able to escape its irresistable pull. Irrespective of how you feel right now, one thing is for sure - You'll be back some day! We hope!

Time goes by so quickly, and it seems like only yesterday when you were banging heads in under 12 PL with our Logan Boys and our Son Jesse who knows and greatly respects you as a friend and player. For those families like ours that have been around since miniball and watched you grow and mature, things won't be quite the same without seeing you run onto the floor with a team somewhere causing havoc with smart plays and 3-point bombs!

I'm sure you will fill your life with rewarding and enjoyable activities in place of our demanding "all year round" sport called Basketball. We are sad to see you go and hope that you'll be back on the scene sooner rather than later. Jess reckons you'll feel "full weird" for a little while actually having some spare time! Stay away from the TV, Play Station & Cookies though!

Best Wishes & Best of Luck Scottie! The Hillearys'

thats so cute..
and Denzel from brisbane is hot

[Maroochydore Coach]

Most games this weekend seem either foregone conclusions or non events. Our game against BBI has been postponed due a lack of players on our side with 3 starters away representing Mountain Creek HS at the National schools in Geelong, another starter undergoing management training at his part time job and another valuable player missing, presumed barrelled, somewhere along the coast near Byron Bay. Thankfully we dont have to play the Brissos this week as even with a full team it would be a tempestuous affair with them seeking some 'recompense' after their unexpected loss to Logan last week. (Hate playing a team coming off an unexpected loss as they generally play out of their skins and are extremely dangerous. Next week is a non event for us as well as Gold Coast have requested a postponement due their not having even half a team due to TSS commitments. Maroochydore boys keeping the ball rolling by playing in the local A grade comp but coach is doing what one of the players has done and I'm heading off to Agnes Waters tomorrow for a few days fishing and surfing and then will be exploring the Northern NSW reefs through till about Christmas week. It's been a tough year for me personally and it's time for a chill out and rebuilding of the senses and body.
Would like to see the local derby between Gold Coast and Runaway Bay this weekend. Coast seem to have the goods on paper but you can never underestimate a committed and passionate team like Runaway Bay. Recent form would suggest it a long shot but I have a sneaky feeling about the Bay boys causing an upset here if the Gold Coast guys have their focus on upcoming events and not the here and now.
Most action will probably be the SWM and Spartans show at Carina. No offence to anyone but take the Runcorn home court and officiating away from SWM and this will probably be a more realistic indication of the two team's abilities than their last 'close' encounter. I suppose the main factor will be whether the Scott Willis story, (available soon in paper back at all good book stores) is true or not. Scott's press agent was unwilling to confirm or deny the actual situation as at this morning but we can expect an exclusive in all the major city weekend papers one would suppose. Thankfully there's no truth to the rumour that Queensland were going to withdraw from this years Nationals when Scott made himself unavailable for selection. According to his spokesperson, this was just a rumour that arose from the near public hysteria and shock that Scott's announcement caused amongst the basketball world nation wide. Guess Queensland will just have to struggle by the best they can as will Southern Districts on Sunday if they can push the ball up the floor and make SWM's bigs play defence off the back foot and on the recovery trail.
Districts by a comfortable margin whether Scott plays or not.
Logan to win over BBI silver IF they play them with respect and commitment. Struddy has the silvertails running into a slick systematic offensive pattern now and their relentless persistence will find holes in any opposition teams 'lapses'.
Hope everyone has a safe and happy Chrissy break, that Santa brings you everything you desire and that the basketball Gods shine on you, except when you play Maroochydore as they will be shining on us. See you in the shore break. Take Care.

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Most action will probably be the SWM and Spartans show at Carina. No offence to anyone but take the Runcorn home court and officiating away from SWM and this will probably be a more realistic indication of the two team's abilities than their last 'close' encounter. I suppose the main factor will be whether the Scott Willis story, (available soon in paper back at all good book stores) is true or not. Scott's press agent was unwilling to confirm or deny the actual situation as at this morning but we can expect an exclusive in all the major city weekend papers one would suppose. Thankfully there's no truth to the rumour that Queensland were going to withdraw from this years Nationals when Scott made himself unavailable for selection. According to his spokesperson, this was just a rumour that arose from the near public hysteria and shock that Scott's announcement caused amongst the basketball world nation wide. Guess Queensland will just have to struggle by the best they can as will Southern Districts on Sunday if they can push the ball up the floor and make SWM's bigs play defence off the back foot and on the recovery trail.
Districts by a comfortable margin whether Scott plays or not.



Mmmm? I wonder if the sarcasm about Scott Willis would be as strong Coach if the shoe were on the other foot and it was "Izzy" the "Wonder Boy" (according to you guys anyway) rumoured to be retiring. If you can give it, I hope you can take it? "Touche!

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the reasion scott is not trying out for state is because he has college scouts from orlando doing one on one trainings with him to increase his potential by the time he goes to college in 2010

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Mmmm? I wonder if the sarcasm about Scott Willis would be as strong Coach if the shoe were on the other foot and it was "Izzy" the "Wonder Boy" (according to you guys anyway) rumoured to be retiring. If you can give it, I hope you can take it? "Touche!
I think your just "touche-ing" yourself, old mate. Havent heard anything about Izzy doing a dummy spit and "withdrawing" from a team he wasnt even picked in yet, and young Scott is still going round in Premier League, so I dont quite get your point??!!!
Doubt I'll be giving it much more thought either. Have a great holiday season!
(Get some sun and relax mate!)

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the reasion scott is not trying out for state is because he has college scouts from orlando doing one on one trainings with him to increase his potential by the time he goes to college in 2010
Wow!! Only 2007 and Scott is already Identified, recruited, signed and a college "scout" (dont you mean Coach?) assigned with him at Carina (is that full time?) for when he takes up his scholarship in 2010 at...which College at Orlando? Man, he must be some talent to have brought the U.S. scouts to his door despite never having competed or been seen at National level and having completely flown under the radar of the Institute of Sport coaches.??!!!
And no accusations of sarcasm either. I'm sure US college scouts and coaches are immensely interested and keep fully updated of kids playing Premier League around good old Brisbane and then send their staff out here for "one on one trainings" and "potential maximisation" of a select few who are obviously too good to worry about playing for Queensland or competing against the best from the other states including 'tute scholarship holders and future National team players. Well,...sorta sure...I think...

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Mmmm? I wonder if the sarcasm about Scott Willis would be as strong Coach if the shoe were on the other foot and it was "Izzy" the "Wonder Boy" (according to you guys anyway) rumoured to be retiring. If you can give it, I hope you can take it? "Touche!

You are such an idiot.

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You are such an idiot.
Much better said and by far more, "touche".

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good bloke, great basketballer

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good bloke, great basketballer
And noone ever said at any point anything different. Bit surprised at the public outpourings of grief and surprise but over a kid who just decided to drop out of the competition for state and probably because he realised it was a waste of his time.
Smart lad. Will have a more relaxed Premier League and Classics plus start to the school year than a lot of others.

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This thread has really gotten worse than it ever has been. The last page is such crap. You have lost me for good

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good all you did was whinge anyway. Why not say something positive yourself

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Did I read right that Runaway Bay beat Gold Coast in U/18 Boys?

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Funny that Scott has led his team from the front, remained undefeated and out played all opponents so far included the wonderful Izzy, Magical Michael etc etc.

Go and enjoy the remainder of Premier League without the bullshit state squad crap that some parents become so obesessed with and you will be an even better palyer.

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Gladstone travelled up to Mackay on the weekend.

Lost their first game by 24 points on saturday.

Then beat Mackay 74 to 68 on sunday.

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i know this is totally off the topic down here but has anyone heard anything bout the northern boys i heard mackay was looking strong same with townsville i think its gonna be tough stopping tod blanchfield this year good luck to him in the states

[Emu]

Did I read right that Runaway Bay beat Gold Coast in U/18 Boys?

No u didn't.

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News confirmed that Scott Willis withdrew from state squad after discussions with Chris on Sunday morning prior to training commencing.

Bigger shock is that he will not play premier league next year which will seriously jeopodise Districts chances to win classics.


This person wishes to inform you that Scott will be playing premier league.

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can we move on once and for all with scott willis!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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anyone no the runaway bay southern districts titans final score i heard that it was a tough game and runaway bay got the win in the last seconds was it an individual player gettin the job done or did they play a great game

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anyone no the runaway bay southern districts titans final score i heard that it was a tough game and runaway bay got the win in the last seconds was it an individual player gettin the job done or did they play a great game

Runaway Bay 70 d titans 64.

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i heard that the majority of the titans team decided to lose the game on purspose on the day, so as to stay in div 2, keeping all their points and winning. instead of coming up into div 1 starting at the bottom of the ladder with 0 points and losing..

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This person wishes to inform you that Scott will be playing premier league.
Please stop informing us anything about Scott Willis! Noone could give a shit whether he plays premier league or not. He wont make any difference to the outome of the competition.

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i heard that the majority of the titans team decided to lose the game on purspose on the day, so as to stay in div 2, keeping all their points and winning. instead of coming up into div 1 starting at the bottom of the ladder with 0 points and losing..
What a load of crap!!!
Couldnt beat Runaway Bay. Simple. Could tell by the Noosa game they just didnt have the talent. Losers with a fancy story!

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Please stop informing us anything about Scott Willis! Noone could give a shit whether he plays premier league or not. He wont make any difference to the outome of the competition.

Ive never met him but he surely does make a difference. If someone else chooses to discuss his impact or intentions it's nothing to do with you. If you have something to actually say go ahead and change the subject yourself. Dont come on and tell others what to talk about you [moron

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What a load of crap!!!
Couldnt beat Runaway Bay. Simple. Could tell by the Noosa game they just didnt have the talent. Losers with a fancy story!

I agree. I was there and the Titans certainly did not look like a team that was not trying.
If that is their story why did they bother to challenge ib the first place?

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so maroochydore u18 boys are postponing game this week?????

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Ive never met him but he surely does make a difference. - you [moron
Nope! He wont make any difference I assure you and keep your petty name calling for the school yard that you inhabit every day. There's more to PL U/18's this year than some kid who cant run lanes,cant play D and has nothing but a big 3 point shot IF he's on that particular night and IF you dont get up and in on him. Load of bullshit about him withdrawing from anything as he was never good enough to make this years state team anyhow. So can we move on from the Scott Willis family appreciation society?

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so maroochydore u18 boys are postponing game this week?????
Gold Coast requested postponement and Maroochydore agreed. T.S.S. players away on tour apparently.

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Gold Coast requested postponement and Maroochydore agreed. T.S.S. players away on tour apparently.

And Mountain Creek boys away at champion schools..helped both teams.

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And Mountain Creek boys away at champion schools..helped both teams.
Those 3 players return 9.50 am Saturday in time for GC game if they still want to play?

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Nope! He wont make any difference I assure you and keep your petty name calling for the school yard that you inhabit every day. There's more to PL U/18's this year than some kid who cant run lanes,cant play D and has nothing but a big 3 point shot IF he's on that particular night and IF you dont get up and in on him. Load of bullshit about him withdrawing from anything as he was never good enough to make this years state team anyhow. So can we move on from the Scott Willis family appreciation society?
What the hell is wrong with scott is a fantastic player, im sure any team in the whole of queensland would love to have him

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Nope! He wont make any difference I assure you and keep your petty name calling for the school yard that you inhabit every day. There's more to PL U/18's this year than some kid who cant run lanes,cant play D and has nothing but a big 3 point shot IF he's on that particular night and IF you dont get up and in on him. Load of bullshit about him withdrawing from anything as he was never good enough to make this years state team anyhow. So can we move on from the Scott Willis family appreciation society?

Once again you don.t offer anything of interest, Just seem intent on putting shit on someone else.
Want to change the subject or move on then DO IT YOURSELF MORON offer something of interest or crawl back into your unregistered hole

Once again I Don/t know him just hate cowards

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Can we start a separate thread for scott willis fans please.. hahaha

[Maroochydore Coach]

Those 3 players return 9.50 am Saturday in time for GC game if they still want to play?
Whoa! Hold it there. Given the request by Goldy and having given team the wind up for 2007, Coach has taken the lead of some of his players and is busy surfing some of the excellent little summer swell on offer around the NSW North Coast. Had Agnes Waters last week, home beach at Mudjimba this week and the Pass at Byron and points south next week once Jorden and Mitch are home from the 'tute, so definately not in the mood for reconvening to play any basketball.
Hear the "Izzy, Lach and Harry" show is doing quite nicely in Div 2 down at the schools and so they will have had a positive input before they start their Xmas break. Like everyone else, (or so it seems), we too are shattered that QLD will have no chance at Nationals now Scott Willis has taken his bat and ball and wont play, and we have now all but given up knowing that Premier League and Classics is a lay down win for Districts because he's still playing. Guess we'll all just have to try hard for 2nd place?!?!
Asst Coach Mick Redman is firing on all cylinders after winning the Clippers Mens Head coaching job and is catching up daily while on holidays with plans and ideas for the mens program 2008. Great to see someone genuinely passionate about their coaching and the whole association program again. Enough to engender enthusiasm in others. Hoping everyone is having as good a christmas holiday and in as nice a place as this writer and that everyone comes back to us in 2008 healthy, happy and ready to enjoy the exciting season and classics ahead. Anyone looking for a good hit out before the season starts again I can recomend the Maroochydore Australia Day carnival Mens A grade where we'll be finding our feet again as well as Noosa, Gladstone and possibly Mackay U/18 mens teams.
Looks like the dinosaurical Gold Coast Steelers will be playing Men's B grade again (since there's no Vets division) and hoping to enlist the services of Scheibs to round out the front court with Frank Goldfinch after seeing him in action at the caloundra carnival!
Enough information for now and good luck, good wishes and safe trails for the Chrissy break. Take care and dont be talking bout getting Maroochydore 18's back to play any games now you've sent us on holidays.

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Once again you don.t offer anything of interest, Just seem intent on putting shit on someone else.
Want to change the subject or move on then DO IT YOURSELF MORON offer something of interest or crawl back into your unregistered hole

Once again I Don/t know him just hate cowards
And just who is using "fighting words" from the safe anonymity of a "guest" hidey-hole???
Mines just an honest (and pretty widespread) opinion. Yours is a personal attack which would undoubtedly lead to very serious consequences if you said that face to face...but you didnt...and then accused another of cowardice and hiding behind anonymity. What a sick and lame little person! Are all Scott Willis fans of the same ilk?

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whos playin who tongiht?
any results yet?

[tom]

Which teams looked good and which teams Didnt? I heard that Maroochydore beat spartans? How did that happen?

maroochydore did not beat spartans. spartans r the best there ever will b

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maroochydore did not beat spartans. spartans r the best there ever will b
"Will b or Will..is?" Maroochy got no hope of ever beating Spartans. Spartans and Scott are the best ever.

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omg everyone get over the fact that scott willis is trying for state for gods sake it isnt the end of the world

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Classics selections as follows:

1. Townsville (home court advantage and impressive display last year with several bottom age players will see them as favourties before the tournament commences).

2. Maroochydore (clearly the team with the most room for improvement in the south and won't need to improve too much to go all the way with Izzy and Lachlie stand out players).

3. Cairns (solid team with northern support will try and go 1 better than top age 16 year where they were desperately unlucky to lose final to districts).

4. Logan (dark horse from the south with unlimited talent who can beat anyone and everyone on their day).

5. Mackay (led by Todd Blanchfield and more depth than recent seasons this team is capable of surprising and finishing in the top 4).

6. Districts (strong starting 5 but lack of depth will show towards the end of the tournamant. Lack of bigs is a definate weakness which opposition teams will try and exploit).

7. Gold Coast (state coach has plenty of talent to work with in this team and look towards them as big improvers from the south as things start to click for them).

8. Gladstone (plenty of raw talent in this squad who will undoubtably cause a few upsets during the week).

9. BBI (well coached outfit with Matt continuing to improve definately will cause a few headaches to some teams).

10. South West Metro (intensity of this team led by Mark Roeteller will see them go a long way).

Whatever way you look there will be some great games in Townsville and well worth taking the time to get there and enjoy.

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Classics selections as follows:

1. Townsville (home court advantage and impressive display last year with several bottom age players will see them as favourties before the tournament commences).

2. Maroochydore (clearly the team with the most room for improvement in the south and won't need to improve too much to go all the way with Izzy and Lachlie stand out players).

3. Cairns (solid team with northern support will try and go 1 better than top age 16 year where they were desperately unlucky to lose final to districts).

4. Logan (dark horse from the south with unlimited talent who can beat anyone and everyone on their day).

5. Mackay (led by Todd Blanchfield and more depth than recent seasons this team is capable of surprising and finishing in the top 4).

6. Districts (strong starting 5 but lack of depth will show towards the end of the tournamant. Lack of bigs is a definate weakness which opposition teams will try and exploit).

7. Gold Coast (state coach has plenty of talent to work with in this team and look towards them as big improvers from the south as things start to click for them).

8. Gladstone (plenty of raw talent in this squad who will undoubtably cause a few upsets during the week).

9. BBI (well coached outfit with Matt continuing to improve definately will cause a few headaches to some teams).

10. South West Metro (intensity of this team led by Mark Roeteller will see them go a long way).

Whatever way you look there will be some great games in Townsville and well worth taking the time to get there and enjoy. I cant believe thatu are rating the north that highly they will never be able to beat the likes of SD, SD are smashing every team

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I cant believe thatu are rating the north that highly they will never be able to beat the likes of SD, SD are smashing every team
My friend you have a very disbelieving time ahead of you. Townsville, Mackay and Cairns will decide the Gold, Silver, Bronze of this year's Classics and even astute judges in the South recognise that reality. Start preparing for your SD coloured glasses to get awful foggy and fall off come Easter.

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It all makes for a great classics. I for one hope the northern teams can give the south teams a good shake up. Cant help but wonder why Top of North hasnt started yet? This will only hinder northern teams chances of being ready. South have the advantage of playing all season long, every weekend (except xmas of course).


The top 10 will depend very much on whos in whos pool, but i think everyone will be worried about playing maroochy, tville, SD or Mackay.

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It all makes for a great classics. I for one hope the northern teams can give the south teams a good shake up. Cant help but wonder why Top of North hasnt started yet? This will only hinder northern teams chances of being ready. South have the advantage of playing all season long, every weekend (except xmas of course).


The top 10 will depend very much on whos in whos pool, but i think everyone will be worried about playing maroochy, tville, SD or Mackay.
Judging by weekends news and TV coverage, Maroochydore are more interested in mile high stunts and their media careers than anything else right now.
The boys being 'Cadet Clippers', they were included in the Clippers Mens pre season start on Saturday by climbing Mt. Tibrogargan in the Suncoast hinterland. Huge photo of Lachie Miller and some of the team climbing the mountain in the paper and the Channel 7 camera man lugged a $60,000 camera to the top and recorded an interview with Lachie Miller, at the summit with the Sunshine Coast as a back drop, for the evening news. How's their bloody form??!! Word is they can play basketball allright too.

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Watched a North v South QAS scrimmage over the weekend and the North boys were pretty awesome especially this red head tall muscular unit, I think they beat South by 10 odd points so yes it should be very interesting come classics

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I say let the north and south worry about each other, and completely forget about Central QLD.

what makes this year even more interesting is that you have the dark horse in Gladstone who have proven already this year that they can compete with both Maroochy and Mackay. So maybe the title wont end up in the south or the north but half way between both -Central Qld?

I think you will find this years classics are going to very tightly contested and their will be some great match ups.

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Watched a North v South QAS scrimmage over the weekend and the North boys were pretty awesome especially this red head tall muscular unit, I think they beat South by 10 odd points so yes it should be very interesting come classics
That would be the Chitham number I'm guessing. A tough, raw boned, competitive unit from the deep north who has little "focus" dramas from time to time. Rest of the time he'll take you and your team apart without raising a sweat. He's just one of a number of really good kids up there this year who are getting exponentially better and better than the south thanks to the coaching of Mr. Frohling up there. For the uninitiated, Shane was the brains and strength behind the Crocs for many years as Assistant Coach before being headhunted successfully by the QAS. Before either of those gigs he was one of the hardest arsed players around the NBL.
To be fair however and in "defense" of the 10 point beating by the North, its a common opinion down here that the best players in the south, (at least the 'manly' type kids with a bit of go and ticker), mysteriously didnt make the QAS, QITCP program. For instance, Districts and Maroochydore, (arguably the top two teams in the South) dont have a single scholarship holder or representative to the best of my knowledge. (And I sincerely hope I'm wrong or at least will be proven to be after this is read and adjustments made!) Opinions vary as to why this situation exists but what is obvious is that there's a great deal of difference between the coaching styles, philosophies and abilities between North and South Queensland QITCP programs these days with the North under Frohling throwing the best, hardest and most competition ready scholarship holders.

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Watched a North v South QAS scrimmage over the weekend and the North boys were pretty awesome especially this red head tall muscular unit, I think they beat South by 10 odd points so yes it should be very interesting come classics
I think you'll find the real U/18 Mens players down here will give a better sight than the QAS south selectees but that doesnt take away the fact that the Classics final will probably be Townsville and either Cairns or Mackay. Maroochydore could upset and sneak a berth if they get good luck and avoid injury. For sure they will be match fit, mentally hard and sharp as nails. Would need a great deal of luck however.

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the north will rule. there are lots of talent and top players. better than ever this year

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That would be the Chitham number I'm guessing. A tough, raw boned, competitive unit from the deep north who has little "focus" dramas from time to time. Rest of the time he'll take you and your team apart without raising a sweat. He's just one of a number of really good kids up there this year who are getting exponentially better and better than the south thanks to the coaching of Mr. Frohling up there. For the uninitiated, Shane was the brains and strength behind the Crocs for many years as Assistant Coach before being headhunted successfully by the QAS. Before either of those gigs he was one of the hardest arsed players around the NBL.
To be fair however and in "defense" of the 10 point beating by the North, its a common opinion down here that the best players in the south, (at least the 'manly' type kids with a bit of go and ticker), mysteriously didnt make the QAS, QITCP program. For instance, Districts and Maroochydore, (arguably the top two teams in the South) dont have a single scholarship holder or representative to the best of my knowledge. (And I sincerely hope I'm wrong or at least will be proven to be after this is read and adjustments made!) Opinions vary as to why this situation exists but what is obvious is that there's a great deal of difference between the coaching styles, philosophies and abilities between North and South Queensland QITCP programs these days with the North under Frohling throwing the best, hardest and most competition ready scholarship holders.


Mate, there are 3 holders all from districts..the semerads and tom laycock.

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Mate, there are 3 holders all from districts..the semerads and tom laycock. Good to see. Didnt see their names on the web site is all. Anyone from Maroochydore?

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no!!!! no one outside brisbane gets scholarship, the system is screwed

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no!!!! no one outside brisbane gets scholarship, the system is screwed

What about Aden Walsh he was from Harvey Bay which when I last looked was not a suburb of Brisbane. Also what about the 5 girls from the South Coast area?

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hey QAS is not everything. it doesnt automatically get you into the state team as that has happened in the past. It is just to develop. Your rep coach may give you more than the coaches at the QAS so stop worrying about it.. Just coz your not in it doesnt mean you are not good. Look at Andrew Bogurt. He didnt make the state team and then made tha Boomers the next year. It shouldnt mean automatic state selection thats for sure otherwise there would be no point trying out

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What about Aden Walsh he was from Harvey Bay which when I last looked was not a suburb of Brisbane. Also what about the 5 girls from the South Coast area? Lot of people saying his basketball has actually gone to pack this year playing in a lower age team of favoured kids with an incompetent coach. Gold Coast performances on the court this season tell the sorry story.

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yeah whats with gold coast? At the start of the season they were the faverouits. they have a good team with good player (and supposebly a good coach) so i cant see what the problem is and y they are soo far behind the top teams??? any one have an answer?

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yeah whats with gold coast? At the start of the season they were the faverouits. they have a good team with good player (and supposebly a good coach) so i cant see what the problem is and y they are soo far behind the top teams??? any one have an answer?
Supposedly you have supposedly answered your own question. Supposedly.

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Watched a North v South QAS scrimmage over the weekend and the North boys were pretty awesome especially this red head tall muscular unit, I think they beat South by 10 odd points so yes it should be very interesting come classics

North may have won last weeks scrimmage anyway (?), but remember that QAS North had about 6 top age players (5 definately) and the South only had 2 (being the Semerard twins). As the purpose of the scrimmages are to develop players, the South also played their little 13 year old point guard from South West a fair bit as well. The North are strong, but people really shouldn't read to much into the result as the scrimmages involve players of all ages, with the South combination much younger across the board and with less experience.

Despite being a Southener, I'm leaning toward a Northern victory at Classics as well. I'm not writing off the South as we have a few tough contenders, but Townsville, Cairns and Mackay are going to be tough. As long as key players stay healthy, Spartans and Maroochydore are real chances as well. While Spartans are talented, I have a feeling that Maroochydore will be fully primed for the Classics and set to launch. Maroochydore are Southern favourites for mine as I believe that lack of depth will see Spartans with tired legs come finals time at the end of the week.

We hear and read so much about M'dore, Spartans & Brisbane, so I'd like to say that I also agree with some other comments that Gladstone & Logan are genuine dark horses as well.

The Basketball Gods and the Planets would all have to be aligned for them to win, but on their day they are really hot to handle and have improved big time with lots of potential still in the bag waiting to come out. They are both capable of rolling any team in the State on any given day. Lets put it this way - Teams wll be very nervous seeing them in their pool at Classics as they are capable of good things.

Respect Brissie, Gold Coast & South West but think that they are outside chances with medium to long odds at best.

If the Classics were on Sports-Bet and based on recent form (bearing in mind I'm only going on what I've heard about teams from the North from Basketball savvy people) my odds would be:

Townsville - 2 to 1 (Favourites by a whisker on their home track but won't want to draw a wide barrier)
Mackay, Cairns & Maroochydore - 3 to 1 (Capable of beating the best by a nose, possibly a length if running on a dry track.)
Spartans - 5 to 1 (a good return for investment if legs stay strong - fitness the key over this distance)
Gladstone & Logan - 10 to 1 (Frisky in the barriers and capable of anything - worth a punt)
Brissie & Gold Coast- 12 to 1 (will need a good run on the turn and use the whip down the home straight to be a chance)
South West - 13 to 1 (seem to be running on wet tracks of late and will need luck over this distance)

Happy punting!

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North may have won last weeks scrimmage anyway (?), but remember that QAS North had about 6 top age players (5 definately) and the South only had 2 (being the Semerard twins). As the purpose of the scrimmages are to develop players, the South also played their little 13 year old point guard from South West a fair bit as well. The North are strong, but people really shouldn't read to much into the result as the scrimmages involve players of all ages, with the South combination much younger across the board and with less experience.

Despite being a Southener, I'm leaning toward a Northern victory at Classics as well. I'm not writing off the South as we have a few tough contenders, but Townsville, Cairns and Mackay are going to be tough. As long as key players stay healthy, Spartans and Maroochydore are real chances as well. While Spartans are talented, I have a feeling that Maroochydore will be fully primed for the Classics and set to launch. Maroochydore are Southern favourites for mine as I believe that lack of depth will see Spartans with tired legs come finals time at the end of the week.

We hear and read so much about M'dore, Spartans & Brisbane, so I'd like to say that I also agree with some other comments that Gladstone & Logan are genuine dark horses as well.

The Basketball Gods and the Planets would all have to be aligned for them to win, but on their day they are really hot to handle and have improved big time with lots of potential still in the bag waiting to come out. They are both capable of rolling any team in the State on any given day. Lets put it this way - Teams wll be very nervous seeing them in their pool at Classics as they are capable of good things.

Respect Brissie, Gold Coast & South West but think that they are outside chances with medium to long odds at best.

If the Classics were on Sports-Bet and based on recent form (bearing in mind I'm only going on what I've heard about teams from the North from Basketball savvy people) my odds would be:

Townsville - 2 to 1 (Favourites by a whisker on their home track but won't want to draw a wide barrier)
Mackay, Cairns & Maroochydore - 3 to 1 (Capable of beating the best by a nose, possibly a length if running on a dry track.)
Spartans - 5 to 1 (a good return for investment if legs stay strong - fitness the key over this distance)
Gladstone & Logan - 10 to 1 (Frisky in the barriers and capable of anything - worth a punt)
Brissie & Gold Coast- 12 to 1 (will need a good run on the turn and use the whip down the home straight to be a chance)
South West - 13 to 1 (seem to be running on wet tracks of late and will need luck over this distance)

Happy punting!

You are on the money

[Maroochydore Coach]

Looking forward to trying ourselves and our systems against the 2 squads of Districts SEABL hopefuls that Vern has placed in the A grade comp for Australia Day carnival. Couple of testing bruising encounters which should have us ready to reopen the season. Be good to see some others from the U/18's also.

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I would like a bit of that 3 to 1 for the surfies from Maroochydore. Easily the team with themost improvement to be made before classics.

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Mdore is bullshit, if they cant beat the best in the south (Spartans) then how will they beat any of the north teams, Mdore and there coach speak soo much shit its not funny, no one cares about their plans and there stradegies!!!! Kepp that shit shit to ur selves ull need it when u meet the power houses like Spartans and SOuth West and Logan, never mind the big doggs in the North like T-vill and Cairns, these boys need to wake up to them selves and see the sunshine. If they want to win classics they better get of bendoes and start playin some reall ball!!!!!!!! Mdore boys won classics once to yrs ago and that will be the last time. Spartans To dominate every time by atleast 15+ points.

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Spartans won't beat Maroochydore in their next round game in premier league let alone classics.

They will be in differnet pools at classics and highly likely that they won't even meet each other if as expected the dark side get beaten up by the northerners and don't make the cross over semi's.

Under 18's become a completely different ball game when classics come around as so many teams make huge improvements from the start of the season to the end. My view is that Maroochydore have the room for most improvement and by running up mountains and playing A grade mens carnivals they will make the required improvement to go all the way.

Logan and Brisbane have potential to make bbig improvements as well but Districts have peaked (about 2 years ago) and don't have the room for improvement ir depth to go all the wayat classics. Sure they will be hard to defeat and will provide tough competition for all opposing teams but by the end of the week they simply will not be in contention.

Maroochydore v North? final for me.

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I would like a bit of that 3 to 1 for the surfies from Maroochydore. Easily the team with themost improvement to be made before classics.
When you say they have the most improvement to be made before Classics are you saying they are underperforming?
Last time I talked to their coach his only concern was that they didnt peak too early and he was purposely throwing buckets of water on it to cool them down. He reckons all they had to do was make first 4 then win the last 2 games for PL. Got the impression he's not really thinking about PL but and is fully focused on beating the North at Classics. He's a northerner himself (Mackay) and there's pride and old rivalry at stake especially against Townsville. I like the look of Maroochydore and the brand of basketball they play. They probably have the best chance against the size of Townsville and should at least match up with Mackay and Cairns. Noone else from down here can but.

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No they are not under performing but have the greatest room for performance and seem to be working hard enough to achieve their goal.

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I'll put my money on gladstone to take it, they have a good first 5 and can win it in towny

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I'll put my money on gladstone to take it, they have a good first 5 and can win it in townyThey took the lead against Maroochydore in the final 3 minutes of a pre season game. Maroochydore hit the big 3's through Wez and Izzy to win by 2 points. Gladstone are tough.

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I'll put my money on gladstone to take it, they have a good first 5 and can win it in towny

PFFFFTTT!!! as friggin if... gladstone got hardly netin.. they were that bad chris balman had to come over from rocky... (by the way r shitter) Mackay shit all over them in there little thing up there.. i say Mackay r ones to watch out at classics boys!!! dnt underestimate the Northerns...

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Don't be surprised if the noryh fill 3 of the top 4 spots at classics.

Mackay, Townsville & Cairns look very strong with Maroochydore the team from the south to make up the top 4.

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Have heard that the Maroochy boys are going to Townsville to meet girls and party! Apparently they heard Cris Riches doesnt rate any of them as players so they gunna enjoy the trip away.

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PFFFFTTT!!! as friggin if... gladstone got hardly netin.. they were that bad chris balman had to come over from rocky... (by the way r shitter) Mackay shit all over them in there little thing up there.. i say Mackay r ones to watch out at classics boys!!! dnt underestimate the Northerns...

didnt gladstone beat mackay in the sunday game? mackay must be shit if gladstone can beat them???

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Have heard that the Maroochy boys are going to Townsville to meet girls and party! Apparently they heard Cris Riches doesnt rate any of them as players so they gunna enjoy the trip away.

Doubt that very much!

Maroochydore are the only realistic hope from the south and after speaking with Chris after Maroochydore defeated Gold Coast he was more than impressed with several of their players (the whole starting five to be exact).

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name them. or will you say it is confidential information. (probably)

[Maroochydore Coach]

name them. or will you say it is confidential information. (probably)
Interesting line of discussion?!?!
For your guidance we have a variety of starting combinations subject to opposition match ups and what we intend doing to them. Couldnt remember off hand who we went with against Coast but for sure it would have been Tueta/Miller/McDermott. Dunno what confidential conversations the other writer might have had with the state coach but our rotations are common knowledge (but usually decided by Mick and myself on the way to the game.) Bit hard to predict...even for us.
Coach Riches has had a yarn with a number of people who know the league about various players but I have to say he gave nothing away.

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Can anyone tell me who won the games at the QAS camp just prior to Xmas, North vs South Athletes. Hrd that North won both, is this correct and did anyone see the games.

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Can anyone tell me who won the games at the QAS camp just prior to Xmas, North vs South Athletes. Hrd that North won both, is this correct and did anyone see the games.

Look at post number 429 on page 29 of this thread which gives a basic overview of the Boys QAS North vs South game played before Xmas. In a nutshell, North Boys won by about 10 pts but had approx 6 top age boys at the camp. South only had 2 top age boys and played their little 13 year old point guard a lot for experience, so you can't read much into the victory. I don't know anything about the Girls game. Hope this helps a little. Cheers!

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Anyone see State training on the weekend? Were there any cuts from the squad?

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Cameron Bearstow, laklan Miller, Adam ( guard from goldy) and a tall from Brisbane.
Did any one train acceptionally well?
How many catch up games will be played this weekend?

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Cameron Bearstow, laklan Miller, Adam ( guard from goldy) and a tall from Brisbane.
Did any one train acceptionally well?
How many catch up games will be played this weekend?

Uhh, wasn't cameron a top age player last year? I'm pretty sure he was playing for the captials in under 20s.

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Cameron Bearstow, laklan Miller, Adam ( guard from goldy) and a tall from Brisbane.
Did any one train acceptionally well?
How many catch up games will be played this weekend?
Thats bullshit. Lachlan Miller is easily the most dominant centre in the PL competition and will be a starter in this State team.

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Definates for state side:

Lachlan Miller
Izzy Tueta
David Semerad
Anthony Semerad
Mark Roeteller
Jessie Hillary
Matt H (Brisbane big ex Ipswich).
Aiden (G-Cost big ex Maroochydore).

Possibles
Andy Chen
Harry McDermott
Michael Gullotta
Tom Laycock
Mitchell McCarron

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Definates for state side:

Lachlan Miller
Izzy Tueta
David Semerad
Anthony Semerad
Mark Roeteller
Jessie Hillary
Matt H (Brisbane big ex Ipswich).
Aiden (G-Cost big ex Maroochydore).

Possibles
Andy Chen
Harry McDermott
Michael Gullotta
Tom Laycock
Mitchell McCarron
Thats going to pretty hard considering Lachlan Miller was cut from the squad

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Thats going to pretty hard considering Lachlan Miller was cut from the squad
Thats bullshit. Chris Riches and Dave Owens might be nothing coaches who get teams by doing "other" favours for BQ but neither of them would be so stupid or so obvious to cut the dominant centre of the age group and leave their own gumbies in the squad. Miller carved all other centres up and has produced the goods in PL, D League, A Grade and National Schools. Neither coach would make a laughing stock of themselves by dropping a 20+p.p.g. and 12+ r.p.g. man. especially in January when there's 5 months to go. Check your rumours.

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Definates for state side:

Lachlan Miller
Izzy Tueta
David Semerad
Anthony Semerad
Mark Roeteller
Jessie Hillary
Matt H (Brisbane big ex Ipswich).
Aiden (G-Cost big ex Maroochydore).

Possibles
Andy Chen
Harry McDermott
Michael Gullotta
Tom Laycock
Mitchell McCarron
McDermott playing all over Aiden Walsh who has regressed this year at Gold Coast.

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The rumor oh Lachlan Miller being cut from the state squad is true, and i've checked my sources.

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Thats bullshit. Chris Riches and Dave Owens might be nothing coaches who get teams by doing "other" favours for BQ but neither of them would be so stupid or so obvious to cut the dominant centre of the age group and leave their own gumbies in the squad. Miller carved all other centres up and has produced the goods in PL, D League, A Grade and National Schools. Neither coach would make a laughing stock of themselves by dropping a 20+p.p.g. and 12+ r.p.g. man. especially in January when there's 5 months to go. Check your rumours.

If it is true no great suprise ,Mat H easily the most dominant centre in P/L followed by the big from G/Coast both alot tougher under the boards which you will need at nationals.

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If it is true no great suprise ,Mat H easily the most dominant centre in P/L followed by the big from G/Coast both alot tougher under the boards which you will need at nationals.
The results of both players games against Miller's and their teams standings on the ladder would seem to suggest otherwise?

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How could a coach with any idea drop Lachlan from this squad?

Sounds as thouggh they are out of control already.

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Uhh, wasn't cameron a top age player last year? I'm pretty sure he was playing for the captials in under 20s.

his little brother jarred??

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Harry McDermott has improved greatly and is a great guy but at State level Aiden has the experience and the added to height to justify his selection in the team.

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how can anyone say that the goldy big is dominant. He plays very soft for a big man and does not have much raw skill. Lachlan Miller is much more skilled and if u dotn belive it then go back to when they vs each other last year. matt hodgeson and lachlan miller are the only real centres that would be effective at nationals

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how can anyone say that the goldy big is dominant. He plays very soft for a big man and does not have much raw skill. Lachlan Miller is much more skilled and if u dotn belive it then go back to when they vs each other last year. matt hodgeson and lachlan miller are the only real centres that would be effective at nationals

Obviously you missed the last state training.

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gold coast vs maroochy catch up game should be interesting then. Anyone know when? where? this game is being played?

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Obviously you missed the last state training.
Yes some coaches (poor ones) can only comprehend training and drills. Failure to recognise a players ability to perform in game situations is a common thread amongst novices.

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the goldy big did train better than lachlan and lachlan underperformed but that would a mixture of nerves and plus the goldy big has been playin under coach richies for the whole year. I think tomorow and 4 pm coach richies will relise he made a mistake.

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Miller has his lifeguard roster today and wont be finished in time for the game. Tueta bedridden with gastric and expect McDermott and Turner to be same by today. If Riches and Owens hadnt realised about Miller after seeing their centres owned by him during their games then they just never will.

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If it is true no great suprise ,Mat H easily the most dominant centre in P/L followed by the big from G/Coast both alot tougher under the boards which you will need at nationals.
Big from Gold Coast a complete pussy on the boards in yesterdays game against Maroochy. He got dominated by nearly everyone on the maroochy side but mainly by Lachy Miller who must have got 20 rebounds and 30 points.

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what was the score between GoldCoast and Maroochydore

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69 - 59
Lachlan dominated and it was clear that with izzy unwell and playing limited minuts the game plan was to give the ball to Lachlan and let him go to work. He had very good support from the rest of his team in particular Jed Turner and Harry Mcdermot. Pretty close game throughout and good to watch.

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It is clear that you dont agree about Millers dropping from the squad. This has happened over the years so many times and look where Qld finishes at nationals! These COACHES never will learn. Yes they have an understanding of the game but as far as coaching at national do they have what it takes-lets not worry about the players!

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It is clear that you dont agree about Millers dropping from the squad. This has happened over the years so many times and look where Qld finishes at nationals! These COACHES never will learn. Yes they have an understanding of the game but as far as coaching at national do they have what it takes-lets not worry about the players!

Reverse psychology from coach Riches I have been told.

Miller goes away and works even harder, Maroochydore win premier league and state title and spot in state team as starting centre is assured.

As long as Izzy the wonder boy stays fit there are no dangers to the sensational surfers from Maroochydore.

[Maroochydore Coach]

Reverse psychology from coach Riches I have been told.

Miller goes away and works even harder, Maroochydore win premier league and state title and spot in state team as starting centre is assured.

As long as Izzy the wonder boy stays fit there are no dangers to the sensational surfers from Maroochydore.
Stuff Coach Riches reverse psychology! Our collective mindset is centred on our process and systems with a culmination during Classics week. Take care of that and the results will take care of themselves, given a level playing field. There's a lot of things that can go wrong before a destination but a coach has to be happy with a group that attends every practice like its a prize fight and can be found nearly every day shooting individually or scrimmaging as a group in the old stadium. Oh and you are pretty well on the money. The day after Lachlan was dropped he was in the gym with Izzy, Harry and Jed banging bodies with Scott Kenny and a couple of the young Clippers Men's team.
Coach Riches was big enough last year to realise he had made a blue by not including Jessie Franklin initially and then included him later. Steve Lio Willie was a starter for U/16 in 2005 after being cut in January. There's no doubt that Miller has earned and will continue to impress as the most productive forward/centre of his age group. Miller will be reincluded in the side just let up on the accolades for the team huh?! We respect everyone we play.(You liked the underdog tag let us have it too!)

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Stuff Coach Riches reverse psychology! Our collective mindset is centred on our process and systems with a culmination during Classics week. Take care of that and the results will take care of themselves, given a level playing field. There's a lot of things that can go wrong before a destination but a coach has to be happy with a group that attends every practice like its a prize fight and can be found nearly every day shooting individually or scrimmaging as a group in the old stadium. Oh and you are pretty well on the money. The day after Lachlan was dropped he was in the gym with Izzy, Harry and Jed banging bodies with Scott Kenny and a couple of the young Clippers Men's team.
Coach Riches was big enough last year to realise he had made a blue by not including Jessie Franklin initially and then included him later. Steve Lio Willie was a starter for U/16 in 2005 after being cut in January. There's no doubt that Miller has earned and will continue to impress as the most productive forward/centre of his age group. Miller will be reincluded in the side just let up on the accolades for the team huh?! We respect everyone we play.(You liked the underdog tag let us have it too!)

I suspect by your comments that you are using psych on coach Riches. He is is cut. Plenty of players have been cut and not been reincluded so stop telling the kid he is good enough if he is not. Dropping him says that. I am sick of this line in the thread. It is always about Maroochydore and Gold coast. Lots of other teams to kick their arse at classics. Lets talk Premier League generally and stop talking up the Maroochy boys. Its boring!!!!

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I suspect by your comments that you are using psych on coach Riches. He is is cut. Plenty of players have been cut and not been reincluded so stop telling the kid he is good enough if he is not. Dropping him says that. I am sick of this line in the thread. It is always about Maroochydore and Gold coast. Lots of other teams to kick their arse at classics. Lets talk Premier League generally and stop talking up the Maroochy boys. Its boring!!!!
OK misery guts lets talk premier league...yeh say something instead of knocking and whinging!
Fact is Miller IS good enough to make the team. Has proven and continues to do so every week. Everyone in the league from fellow coaches to the players and even the parents of the players know that Miller is a credible and logical choice. Another fact is that where all concerned were doubting the ability of the coach before, it is now his integrity as well that is in question. Absolutely unacceptable. Players parents and all concerned deserve better for their money.

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OK misery guts lets talk premier league...yeh say something instead of knocking and whinging!
Fact is Miller IS good enough to make the team. Has proven and continues to do so every week. Everyone in the league from fellow coaches to the players and even the parents of the players know that Miller is a credible and logical choice. Another fact is that where all concerned were doubting the ability of the coach before, it is now his integrity as well that is in question. Absolutely unacceptable. Players parents and all concerned deserve better for their money.

GOOD GOD I THINK ITS TIME WE STARTED A MAROOCHYDORE FREE POST
its good the coach has his systems but classics is a way down the track yet so whats the point of talking up eveything on here cause when you lose (injuries refs screwed you or just couldnt hit a barn door its happens to the best teams ) i will sit and enjoy the pasting that everyone in sth east qld will give you.

also if your record is that good and seam to know it all why are you not coaching state cause its not right to bag other coaches its all about Queensland not just maroochy and the coast .

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GOOD GOD I THINK ITS TIME WE STARTED A MAROOCHYDORE FREE POST
its good the coach has his systems but classics is a way down the track yet so whats the point of talking up eveything on here cause when you lose (injuries refs screwed you or just couldnt hit a barn door its happens to the best teams ) i will sit and enjoy the pasting that everyone in sth east qld will give you.

also if your record is that good and seam to know it all why are you not coaching state cause its not right to bag other coaches its all about Queensland not just maroochy and the coast .


I do believe that the Maroochy team on paper is the best team in P/L and in the state so anything less than gold at the classics will be a under achievment, Coach Meehl has brought alot of these players and older players a long way up in many aspects of the game with the time he spent at Maroochy,But i do believe coaching will be critical in the bigger games at classics that will be the deciding factor in achieving gold.

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I do believe that the Maroochy team on paper is the best team in P/L and in the state so anything less than gold at the classics will be a under achievment, Coach Meehl has brought alot of these players and older players a long way up in many aspects of the game with the time he spent at Maroochy,But i do believe coaching will be critical in the bigger games at classics that will be the deciding factor in achieving gold.

Best on paper = nothing.

Best on court on the day = everything.

Don't write off the fast improving Logan and BBI teams.

Gold Coast and Spartans have the experience to test any side on their day.

The northern sides are full of class players.

Maroochydore may be favourites but that honour does not give them a head start in any game.

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But i do believe coaching will be critical in the bigger games at classics that will be the deciding factor in achieving gold.
Coach cant make the tough shot stop the break guard their man block out rebound or hit free throws...only the players can do that. Anyone who believes otherwise is coaching for the wrong reasons. Maroochydore got a new coach this year and play a totally different style from coach Meehl. Nobody wanted them and nobody rated them at the start of the season. Cant see why they are supposed "favourites" now?

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Originally Posted by Unregistered
GOOD GOD I THINK ITS TIME WE STARTED A MAROOCHYDORE FREE POST
its good the coach has his systems but classics is a way down the track yet so whats the point of talking up eveything on here cause when you lose (injuries refs screwed you or just couldnt hit a barn door its happens to the best teams ) i will sit and enjoy the pasting that everyone in sth east qld will give you.

also if your record is that good and seam to know it all why are you not coaching state cause its not right to bag other coaches its all about Queensland not just maroochy and the coast .


I do believe that the Maroochy team on paper is the best team in P/L and in the state so anything less than gold at the classics will be a under achievment, Coach Meehl has brought alot of these players and older players a long way up in many aspects of the game with the time he spent at Maroochy,But i do believe coaching will be critical in the bigger games at classics that will be the deciding factor in achieving gold.


not very bright up there the post was about coaches thinking there own player was better than eveyone else in state all that is being said is stop trying to take on coast just go about your bisness and win it cause if you dont all the trash thats being talked from maroochydore will be minute compared to what sth east Qld will give you back.

what was pointed out for you was anything can happen on any night thats why we love this game take this for example who would of pick toronto to beat boston at boston today not me so the favourates tag means jack s... !

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Stuff Coach Riches reverse psychology! Our collective mindset is centred on our process and systems with a culmination during Classics week. Take care of that and the results will take care of themselves, given a level playing field. There's a lot of things that can go wrong before a destination but a coach has to be happy with a group that attends every practice like its a prize fight and can be found nearly every day shooting individually or scrimmaging as a group in the old stadium. Oh and you are pretty well on the money. The day after Lachlan was dropped he was in the gym with Izzy, Harry and Jed banging bodies with Scott Kenny and a couple of the young Clippers Men's team.
Coach Riches was big enough last year to realise he had made a blue by not including Jessie Franklin initially and then included him later. Steve Lio Willie was a starter for U/16 in 2005 after being cut in January. There's no doubt that Miller has earned and will continue to impress as the most productive forward/centre of his age group. Miller will be reincluded in the side just let up on the accolades for the team huh?! We respect everyone we play.(You liked the underdog tag let us have it too!)
Fairly typical of Gordon to try and put a positive spin on things and toe the BQ line for the image of the game. Got to admire a bloke who gets cancer and coaches on through it beats it and comes out the other side still seeing the nice side of things even when they are rotten. Also pretty typical for nameless cretins to be swiping at him on here because his cups half full. The truth is that no amount of psychology of any kind will work on Chris Riches and what he has in store for this team beacuse its not about the team and whats best for queensland but whats good for him personally and his coaching future. He dropped Miller at the first opportunity to make way for kids from his own new association and to please Murray Aldred and make the QAS look good. Its pretty obvious that if he doesnt deliver on the promises he made to gold coast to get the coaching job then he wont be there next year. Its pretty bloody obvious that hes not welcome anywhere else either so if he wasnt a state coach who parents had to crawl to would anyone even speak to him? Thats right I havent signed my name because I dont want him taking it out on my kid. Riches did the same thing with last years team where he dropped good kids and made spaces for kids whose parents could do things for him. (Like Jessie Franklins father is doing for him now) Last year it was Rick Morris who was the stand out and got dropped to make way for Jessie cause hes old mans rich and could help Riches. This year he's dropped Miller whose a standout in the age group and kept spots for kids from gold coast and the qas who arent good enough to cut it. Someone else said here that even the players as well as parents are now doubting Riches honesty along with his coaching ability and its true. One thing Lachie and his family can remember is that he'll still be a success in sport or life or whatever hes doing in life long after Riches and the BBI coach and the Townsend bloke are laughed out of the game and back to the nothing life they lead.

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Jease this Miller kid certaintly is getting alot of attention. Fact is missing out on teams is something that most basketballers go through in their career, and playing state basketball U18s isnt the be all and end all if your serious about taking your bball further. So to all those kids who get cut / have been cut you must remember that there are numerous other pathways to achieving your goals.

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hard to figure out why mdore are the favs, even though spartans are the only undefeated team still, everyone still under rating them and they beat mdore, i guess we will find out but still hard to see how u can rate goldcoast and spartans in the same latter, as spartans whipped the floor with goldcoast playing there bench the whole 2nd half, I "I" think the thing is between spartans and logan.. goldcoast wont change they will stay at 50%, sw will b 4th, logan 3rd, mdore 2nd, spartans 1st... come classics whole new ball game.. but i would say that at classics mdore and spartans will be the only contenders from down south to give mackay and tville a run

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i will sit and enjoy the pasting that everyone in sth east qld will give you.


Reckon that about sums up your ability and contribution to the debate and basketball in general. What pasting? Scared of opinion? What a miserable life. Whose everybody? I suspect only the useless nobodies who stand for nothing and do even less. So who cares?

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Reckon that about sums up your ability and contribution to the debate and basketball in general. What pasting? Scared of opinion? What a miserable life. Whose everybody? I suspect only the useless nobodies who stand for nothing and do even less. So who cares?

so now maroochydore want to sit there and say i have a miserable life and stand for nothing

well tosser i stand for a lot in this game like respect for it not talking so much boring crap!
especaly from a team thats not undefeated and is talking all the trash under the sun when they havent even won it yet!!!!!!!!!(last year is history)

the fact that parents think they know all do a coaches course and then go and coach and favour your kid!!!!!

there are a lot of people on here that say valid things about the comp and people have praised maroochy not just the coach and the parents and all the guys full of eagos on the team which is what its all about.

id like to add i do know chris richies ive had some good conversations with him and ive seen some state trials and id hate to be in that situation i will one day just not yet but picking a team isnt as easy as poeople think and if the front runner for a position dosnt stant up at a trial then how can any coach pick him.

but to get on here and knock him and talk trash at his selections is crap why is it people think its all a gold coast thing and that maroocydore think they are hard done by at the expense of coast .

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Spartans depth will be put to the test next week with games against South West next Tuesday and Logan on Saturday and will be without David Semerad (injured) and Scott Willis unavailable.

Maroochydore could be the new competition leaders by the end of next week.

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I do believe that the Maroochy team on paper is the best team in P/L and in the state so anything less than gold at the classics will be a under achievment, Coach Meehl has brought alot of these players and older players a long way up in many aspects of the game with the time he spent at Maroochy,But i do believe coaching will be critical in the bigger games at classics that will be the deciding factor in achieving gold.
Cant agree with you about Meehl developing junior players. When they won classics 2 years ago they did it on the backs of 3 superstar guards. Ryan Miller Jordan Page and Scott Kenny had everything run around them and were unstoppable but the rest of the team were just role players who supported them but got no other coaching. Last years team was run around Izzy Tueta alone and the other good guaRD hardly got on the court. Neither did a couple of other players who were just left to do nothing even if they got on. The bigger players like Jed and Lachy and Harry never got to do anything except set screens and rebound for Izzy. Thats probably why some players pulled out and wouldnt play again for them this year. This years coach but has everyone handling the ball and shooting and Jed Turner has developed into a very good player with skills that never got used before. Same as Harry and Lachlan Miller who are doing heaps more than they were ever allowed to before. Not saying Warwick Meehl cant coach because hes proved he can in seniors its just hes never developed kids unless they were guards with heaps of talent anyway.

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if the front runner for a position dosnt stant up at a trial then how can any coach pick him.

um...by seeing him outscore outrebound and outplay all his rivals in proper competition? Just a crazy thought but may work????!

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um...by seeing him outscore outrebound and outplay all his rivals in proper competition? Just a crazy thought but may work????!

well stand up and deliver in the trials. ever thought he domanates due to others players on his team demanding more attention

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Look....iver watched miller play many times and he may be one of the better rebounders around...but he has no rigth hand. the guy cant expect to be dominant and make state teams and play at nationals against 7 foot bigs when he cant go right...he will get swatted and shut down everytime...yes he is athletic...and if he improves his right hand skills then yes he should be in the team..but right now he isnt there.

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well stand up and deliver in the trials. ever thought he domanates due to others players on his team demanding more attention
In case you hadnt noticed the Nationals is about games NOT trials. Your just so out of touch with what your talking about but the short answer to such idiocy is who cares how or why he outscores and outrebounds the other turkey from GC that Riches has left in the side and everyone else in the comp for that matter??? The point is he does it! His team wins games because of it! A little something thats lost on coaches the standard of Riches and obviously yourself. It may be tougher at National level but at least he's getting it done at some level. The others aint! Be interesting to see how Hodgson and the Coast big go playing against ABA mens teams this weekend at Maroochydore in preparation for their clahes with "7 footers from other states"....what?!... they wont be there??? How can this be so that the supposed reject can cut it in this company and Riches glamour boys are nowhere to be seen??? Anyhow argue with an idiot and there's two idiots arguing so why dont you give some more insights to your expansive kowledge of basketball, the U/18 league, the players and Nationals competitions. Any coaching lessons available? Sign me up!!

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Look....iver watched miller play many times and he may be one of the better rebounders around...but he has no rigth hand. the guy cant expect to be dominant and make state teams and play at nationals against 7 foot bigs when he cant go right...he will get swatted and shut down everytime...yes he is athletic...and if he improves his right hand skills then yes he should be in the team..but right now he isnt there.
But Riches has another kid in the side who cant catch the ball shoot it or move his feet sideways on defence. He plays for Gold Coast and between him and the state coach they are flat out winning a game. Whats the story there?

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Exactly!!!!
oh and there are no 7ft players in this age group. You wont find too many players tall than Matt Hodgenson.

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Whatever team the coach selects (Miller or no Miller) the team will struggle at Nationals due to lack of serious bigs available for selection.

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Whatever team the coach selects (Miller or no Miller) the team will struggle at Nationals due to lack of serious bigs available for selection.
True. So what...roll over and whinge/blame? Maybe follow one of the state programs trademarks and "adapt". Maybe make do with what you got and take a team and players that has some track record of achievement and ability. Truthfully the teams gonna struggle because of the coaching not the players (thats if he takes the right ones and he's off to a shocking start!). Sad for those in their final year and the parents who have to pay for BQs lack of interest.

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Cant agree with you about Meehl developing junior players. When they won classics 2 years ago they did it on the backs of 3 superstar guards. Ryan Miller Jordan Page and Scott Kenny had everything run around them and were unstoppable but the rest of the team were just role players who supported them but got no other coaching. Last years team was run around Izzy Tueta alone and the other good guaRD hardly got on the court. Neither did a couple of other players who were just left to do nothing even if they got on. The bigger players like Jed and Lachy and Harry never got to do anything except set screens and rebound for Izzy. Thats probably why some players pulled out and wouldnt play again for them this year. This years coach but has everyone handling the ball and shooting and Jed Turner has developed into a very good player with skills that never got used before. Same as Harry and Lachlan Miller who are doing heaps more than they were ever allowed to before. Not saying Warwick Meehl cant coach because hes proved he can in seniors its just hes never developed kids unless they were guards with heaps of talent anyway.

Just to be clear I have not posted anything on this site this season. I have nothing to do with it and I have stayed out of it so please leave me out f it
I will however respond to this rather long list of claims at a later time

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Cant agree with you about Meehl developing junior players. When they won classics 2 years ago they did it on the backs of 3 superstar guards. Ryan Miller Jordan Page and Scott Kenny had everything run around them and were unstoppable but the rest of the team were just role players who supported them but got no other coaching. Last years team was run around Izzy Tueta alone and the other good guaRD hardly got on the court. Neither did a couple of other players who were just left to do nothing even if they got on. The bigger players like Jed and Lachy and Harry never got to do anything except set screens and rebound for Izzy. Thats probably why some players pulled out and wouldnt play again for them this year. This years coach but has everyone handling the ball and shooting and Jed Turner has developed into a very good player with skills that never got used before. Same as Harry and Lachlan Miller who are doing heaps more than they were ever allowed to before. Not saying Warwick Meehl cant coach because hes proved he can in seniors its just hes never developed kids unless they were guards with heaps of talent anyway.
Thanks for your props (if thats what they are) but would rather you leave me out of any "comparisons" with Warwick or any other Coaches for that matter. I respect Warwick's coaching ability and while our style and methods might vary they are just two different ways to the same (desired) end. I'm just a coach that was asked by a couple of parents to put his hand up for a team that no one had applied for. The fact that they've turned out half decent is just how it goes sometimes and can be attributed to a number of factors including every coach they have had through their careers and the strong input from Mick Redman, Terri Page and myself this year. There's more to come also with Stika, Julie Stringer and hopefully Vern having some input as we gear up for Classics. Its just a "Maroochydore Thang". Boys got a welcome to the big league against Thalo Green and some of the Goldy ABA side at the carnival yesterday. They've never had a 30 point thrashing before and were pretty dirty about the whole thing after the game. Plenty of positives from my aspect however as once they experienced the speed and physicality they realised they could play in it and had a bit of a dig. Having a nice win over Coastal's A Mens team this morning helped sooth things.

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the other turkey from GC !!


Pretty brave picking on & calling a kid names that has nothing to do with what is going on just trying his best ,and it would not surprise me to find out its a Maroochy parent or coaching staff,put a name to the post you gutless #@& HOLE or you worried the turkeys father might have a quiet word with you.

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I think this is getting out of control. This is no place for threats and clearly you are adults. This is a public forum and we are not teaching the kids anything by being immature and threatening. No wonder our world is as it is with parents like you carrying on for all to see. You bag coaches and expect them to have goo dstandards. Try it yourself!!!!

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I think this is getting out of control. This is no place for threats and clearly you are adults. This is a public forum and we are not teaching the kids anything by being immature and threatening. No wonder our world is as it is with parents like you carrying on for all to see. You bag coaches and expect them to have goo dstandards. Try it yourself!!!!

Totally agree with your comments but when you see kids attacked by adults hiding behind key boards its not easy to sit back and write nothing, all the kids are doing is to try their best at the game thay love , try to put yourself in the shoes of the parents that have had there kid/s rubbished on the site and see how you would react,