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Livingthedream
17-09-07, 08:56
Following teams qualified for Div 1 in Premier League for U18 Boys (in no particular order)
Runaway Bay
BBI Silver
SD Spartans
BBI Capitals
Logan Thunder
Maroochydore
Gold Coast Wave
South West Metro
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17-09-07, 09:21
Which teams looked good and which teams Didnt? I heard that Maroochydore beat spartans? How did that happen?
Livingthedream
17-09-07, 09:52
Some of MY comments from the day
Maroochy:
Did look the goods and i would have said one of the 2 best teams on the day. they were undeafeted and beat districts by 3 or 4pts. No standout bigs but all very tall and as per usual they ran the break very well. No 13 (i think) was their pick player imo.
Cold Coast Wave:
Also undeafeted on the day and knocked over Bris Metro by +10 in thier pool. They had some good kids in key positions. A good big, good 3 man and a good point guard. Apparently one of them has come down from Harvey Bay. Will be tough
Bris Metro
Have picked up that big kid who played for ipswich last year and look to have a few bottom agers in thier team. Overall they were alright but but also had some narrow wins in thier pool.
Districts one
Both Semerand boys are back and look the goods. They are a surprisingly small districts team and i don't think they have alot of depth. Lost to Maroochy and only beat Bris Silver by about 8.
Bris Silver
Beat gold coast II in the cross over rounds too qualify for premier league. they had one standout kid (11?) and played alright basketball. Will be interesting to see how they go in Div 1
South West Metro
Syd at the helm again and not too many recognizable faces. Its definitly not the team from last year but will expect them to play tough.
Logan
Couple of impressive kids incl Jesse Hilary form lat year who was making alot of shots in the games i saw. Logan looked athletic with good height
Runaway Bay
Beat Districts II to qualify for Div 1. Will imagine they will struggle a little bit like Bris Silver.
The Maroochy team shouldn't be underestimated. They beat the Gold Coast outfit (who dispatched Brisbane comfortably) by a bunch the previous weekend in Noosa and looked good beating Spartans yesterday.
G Force will get a lot out of these boys.
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18-09-07, 11:19
hahaha dont kid me the mdore boys had a good weekend, wont look any good wen they vs some real teams, like south west and gold coast and bbi 1, once prmier league starts u will see them fall to the woodern spooners.
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18-09-07, 13:13
Yeah Marroocydore had a lucky weekend, dosen't mean anything.
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18-09-07, 19:12
Mdore had a lucky win against spartans on the weekend and beat an understrength Gold Coast team at Noosa. This means nothing. Both teams should be embarrassed and i expect them to smoke the sun coast boys next time.
I think you boys have got it wrong i have heard around the trenches that Mdoore are a hard working group with a little bit of athletic talent. Taking the early scalps of Spartans & Gold Coast shouldn't be under estimated. They will be very hard to beat on their home floor. Are the talented Gold Coast & Spartans gonna get down and play hard enough to match their intensity?? I'm sure Mdoore like the under dog tag
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19-09-07, 15:42
some morre mdore haters u loosers just cant handle that this yr mdore wil smoke u fools and there aint a thing u can do about it, thye run jump and play mad defence and have the most depth out of any of the teams, a lucky 37 point win against (a full strength minues one player) gold coast team, pffft thats not luk thatsskill, cant wait till premier league starts when they start woopin ur asses and u still find an exuse for it!!!!
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19-09-07, 17:27
who was missing form the gold coast team?
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19-09-07, 17:32
Maroochy definetly have the roster to compete with any team in the league from what i saw in Noosa. They had it all over the Gold Coast team (who only had 8 suit up) the end score was 66 to 29.
Gold Coast team was J McCarthy, N Seton, M Gulltta, J Franklin, A Walsh, A Creighton, J Beynon, D Correa.
Other interesting results from the Noosa weekend include Maroochy beating Gladstone by 4 points. And Gold Coast (with 10 players add in Jaydon Tom and Josh blank) beating Gladstone by 5 points. Looks like Gladstone might be in the mix when it comes to classics, however thats a long way off.
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19-09-07, 17:43
Maroochydore have some ardent fans and supporters (like the one making strong statements before) however they are just a group of boys out to learn as much as they can to play the best basketball they can and have the best time they can together in their season. If they win then thats fantastic and if they dont then it was a damn good team that beat them. No big deal. Life goes on and has a lot to it.
With all due respect to Mdoore from the TANK i give credit where credit is due and Mdoore have earnt it by there easy victory over Gold Coast and good win over Spartans but i think once the young bottom age Gold Coast boys gel with the top age boys and a lot more aggresive attitude i think they will be hard to beat by finals time and I'm sure Spartans will be ready for Mdoore next time so heres hoping for some good battles from the 3 over the course over the season
P.S. I'm sure Brisbane wont lay down either
Well said Tank. Obviously I am biasedely (that's actually a word in an obscure flightless bird dialect) going for the Gold Coast boys. One of the talented bottom age boys you mention - Josh "The Boss" Blank hasn't even hit the court yet due to a niggling injury. Coach Riches will have them gelling by mid season.
With regard to the Maroochy boys......... despite the snipers above :gun: I really rate the boys. They will get after it all game and will shake up a few of the more favoured contenders.... as they already have. You won't be able to ease in to a game against the northern surfers or you will be toasted before you can come back.
You're right, it looks like an awesome season ahead. This bird can't wait. :banana: Nor can this banana............... apparently.
Emu - Excited Spectator Bird
:dunk:
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20-09-07, 16:34
Good to see the boys getting some props for their pre season work with Acceleration Australia and the team work ethic they've embraced to be, well, looking "sharp" at seaon's commencement. Anybody will know how many times I've spoken on here about "September Premiers" and overblown expectations and pressure on young mens shoulders after merely a couple of good hit outs. Therefore you will also know that I'm under no illusions as to the toughness of the road that lies ahead of us towards the Classics in Townsville.
Gold Coast for one looked a whole different proposition from the team we played in Noosa with their interior man playing and Walsh playing a more dangerous role in the lanes. The kid Blank can dead set light it up and adds another dimension (and area for attention) to their scoring. Districts were just caught on the hop in our little win over them in a "twenty minute scamble" (as opposed to a real game) Truthfully, I just set my sights, tempo and rotations on a certain time and aimed to be ahead at that precise instant the clock expired, rather than be able to claim any sort of real victory in a real game. (I just needed to jump them for a W so it gave us some breathing space for later in the day...no big deal, they had plenty of gas in their tank ) Brisbane are also going to be an exciting proposition around the league with Mitch McCarron running their back court and the lanky ex-Ipswich kid growing into himself every time we see him.
Believe me, too early for anyone to be predicting winners in this competition, especially not me.
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20-09-07, 18:11
*snip* your mother would be proud.
your a hero
20-09-07, 19:03
your a mad dog going on bendoes and baggin somebody out, ure a hero, congratulations. looks like somebody may have been burnt by macca one or two times and your having a cry. Man up, stop talking trash loser.
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20-09-07, 22:26
*snip* your mother would be proud.
What a shame. A new look site and a new season and already the mindless mean spirited nastiness that used to plague the old site. Mate there's so much to be excited and enthusiastic about this years league and the players...look for the positives and write about that hey? Fly and them arent going to cop any shit anymore so lift the level of thinking huh? Its a beautiful game...dont mess with it's feel.
Peace
Livingthedream
21-09-07, 12:40
Have to agree with the above 2 posts.
The site is looking great, so lets not ruin it by talking smack to one another or your peers! it is hardly good reading.
How about trying to give construtive input that others might find useful or interesting?
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22-09-07, 17:33
1st maroochydore
2nd gold coast
3rd brisbane
4th south west
5th logan
6th districts
not much between top 6 sides and a great season lies ahead.
home court advantage for maroochydore will be huge and get them into top place by seasons end.
gold coast will continue to improve as the season goes on.
brisbane have good deph and size to give it a shake. where are the sengstock twins?
south west will be tough all season with sid at the helm.
logan have plenty bottom aged talent to booster the seniors and will upset sides above them during the season.
districts are solidbut lack depth tha will hurt them at the end of the season
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23-09-07, 07:41
not much between top 6 sides and a great season lies ahead.
home court advantage for maroochydore will be huge and get them into top place by seasons end.
Sort of thinking that the fact they have the best point guard in the state, a solid group of above average height and sized players, good coaches and a committed team and work ethic would probably be enough to see them around the leaders by seasons end or certainly the classics??!! The home court is good in that you dont have to drive 2 hours before you play and other teams do when they play you.
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24-09-07, 12:35
not much between top 6 sides and a great season lies ahead.
home court advantage for maroochydore will be huge and get them into top place by seasons end.
Sort of thinking that the fact they have the best point guard in the state, a solid group of above average height and sized players, good coaches and a committed team and work ethic would probably be enough to see them around the leaders by seasons end or certainly the classics??!! The home court is good in that you dont have to drive 2 hours before you play and other teams do when they play you.
pretty arogant statement best point in the state,one of the better guards maybe ?
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24-09-07, 17:55
Who can you think of that is as good, or even better than him?
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24-09-07, 18:56
pretty arogant statement best point in the state,one of the better guards maybe ?
Sorry if that sounds arrogant as it's certainly not meant to. I'm just a fan of the kid and pleased with the way he handled disappointment last year and worked away on his game to achieve a positive. (Great example!)
At the risk of sounding arrogant again, Tueta's performances in the D League final series caught the eye and admiration of some very knowledgeable and experienced coaches, his performance against Gold Coast's Mick Gulotta, (who is rated very highly also) in Noosa 3 weeks ago, was exemplary and his performances against everyone at the grading tournament and the Schools tournament, including Andy Chen (who has some wraps on him) proved hands down that he's the best point guard in his age group in the state at this present time.
Anyhow, dont blame Izzy for arrogance it's just my personal opinion but I know I'm right.
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25-09-07, 22:15
izzy smoked bout gullotta and chen. He is handsdown the best point guard in the state. At least south queensland anyway. he is a shoein for the state team.
who else will make state?
thoughts???
who will win PL?
my money is on a goldcoast vs logan final. (hillary will carry the logan boys)
thoughts???
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26-09-07, 20:39
State side picks itself.
David Semerad
Antony Semerad
Lochlan Miller
Andy Chen
Izzy Tueta
Jessie Hillary
Aiden Walsh
Michael Gullota
Mark Roteller
BBI big (QAS ex Ipswich)
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27-09-07, 14:03
State side picks itself.
David Semerad
Antony Semerad
Lochlan Miller
Andy Chen
Izzy Tueta
Jessie Hillary
Aiden Walsh
Michael Gullota
Mark Roteller
BBI big (QAS ex Ipswich)
You've chosen on popularity and reputation, not on who/what a team actually needs. With Tueta as the primary point guard there is no need for Andy Chen or Mark Roteller. Good guys maybe but superfluous in this team. Keep Gulotta as a back up point who can play the scoring 2 role as well but leave the other 2 spots for scorers/rebounders/role players which are sorely needed. Try Jed Turner (size and athleticism) from Maroochydore and maybe Josh Blank the scorer from Gold Coast.
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28-09-07, 08:49
the above post is right. reputation. under 16 is totally different to u/18. That would have to be the smallest team at nationals. how about some new blood that may actually do ok. lets wait and see what is out there and who is performing. lets get a real grip here
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28-09-07, 11:12
are you serious? they're all good players. But the team does definately not pick itself... you could put a completely different team, just as good, demonstrating the dpeth this year.
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28-09-07, 13:11
are you serious? they're all good players. But the team does definately not pick itself... you could put a completely different team, just as good, demonstrating the dpeth this year.
Cant agree. Last 2 years maybe, but the number of players in this year's league who could be competitive at National's level is scant indeed. I've been to both 16's and 18's Nationals and the difference in levels of skill and physicality is astounding. (Hope Coach Riches is aware of it) The Semerands and Isiah Tueta will be right, Lachie Miller and Jed Turner will be ready to run, jump and rumble with the Southern bigs, Aden Walsh likewise should improve and start to handle physicality, Mick Gulotta seems to be on the improve and experience and maturity should see him come along by July next year, likewise the big from BBI (used to play for Ippy). Jessie Hilleary is still an unknown at the higher levels but looks like one of the few chances at this early stage. But that's only 9 players who look like they have any of the requirements to compete at U/18's National level.
The remainder of the team will need to come from players who have recently "grown a moustache" and stepped up to the physicality and speed requirements of Nationals level. Slim pickings indeed compared to recent years when you could pick 2 or three sides which would all look competitive on paper. Early days however and look forward to seeing the "moustache growers" stepping up.
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28-09-07, 13:58
Cant agree. Last 2 years maybe, but the number of players in this year's league who could be competitive at National's level is scant indeed. I've been to both 16's and 18's Nationals and the difference in levels of skill and physicality is astounding. (Hope Coach Riches is aware of it) The Semerands and Isiah Tueta will be right, Lachie Miller and Jed Turner will be ready to run, jump and rumble with the Southern bigs, Aden Walsh likewise should improve and start to handle physicality, Mick Gulotta seems to be on the improve and experience and maturity should see him come along by July next year, likewise the big from BBI (used to play for Ippy). Jessie Hilleary is still an unknown at the higher levels but looks like one of the few chances at this early stage. But that's only 9 players who look like they have any of the requirements to compete at U/18's National level.
The remainder of the team will need to come from players who have recently "grown a moustache" and stepped up to the physicality and speed requirements of Nationals level. Slim pickings indeed compared to recent years when you could pick 2 or three sides which would all look competitive on paper. Early days however and look forward to seeing the "moustache growers" stepping up.
I understand where you are coming from...though how can you say that isiah tueta is physical capable...yet not mention marc rotteler?
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28-09-07, 14:27
I understand where you are coming from...though how can you say that isiah tueta is physical capable...yet not mention marc rotteler?
Seen both of them play recently, including against each other in D League. Mark is not in Izzy's class I'm sorry. Good little player sure and probably able to play physical but doesnt have the true grasp of time and score (tempo) that a true point possess and doesnt read the floor, find his lane runners nor apply heat on the rim in finishing like Tueta. His defensive reads and court coverage are not in the same class as Tueta's. Add in that this is the point guard position were discussing here and we simply havent seen any indication of an ability to organise, run and create by Marc as has been very evident in Tueta's game in recent months and at various levels.
Anycase just my opinion and I'm sure a Rotteler fan will come up with a compelling argument also. Know who I'd rather have on my team going down to play the Vics but.
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28-09-07, 17:59
Seen both of them play recently, including against each other in D League. Mark is not in Izzy's class I'm sorry. Good little player sure and probably able to play physical but doesnt have the true grasp of time and score (tempo) that a true point possess and doesnt read the floor, find his lane runners nor apply heat on the rim in finishing like Tueta. His defensive reads and court coverage are not in the same class as Tueta's. Add in that this is the point guard position were discussing here and we simply havent seen any indication of an ability to organise, run and create by Marc as has been very evident in Tueta's game in recent months and at various levels.
Anycase just my opinion and I'm sure a Rotteler fan will come up with a compelling argument also. Know who I'd rather have on my team going down to play the Vics but.
Yeh i see what you mean..and im not gonna argue bout marc being better than isiah..because he simply isnt...and marc is not a point guard...i just thought u left out marc as a physical presence...cheers
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30-09-07, 23:25
marroochy certainly looked the most impressive on the day(grading tournement). spartans didnt look like the team the used to be as they only beat brisbane 2 by six points. gold coast were also quite impressive with some youth in the team aswell should improve throughout the season with riches. bbi looking okay.
wat r ur ppls thoughts??
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01-10-07, 09:21
marroochy certainly looked the most impressive on the day(grading tournement). spartans didnt look like the team the used to be as they only beat brisbane 2 by six points. gold coast were also quite impressive with some youth in the team aswell should improve throughout the season with riches. bbi looking okay.
wat r ur ppls thoughts??
Spartans rested their starters and played the bench against Brisbane 2.
Gold Coast look like a side who could improve as the season goes on and players mature. Will depend whether they get to however playing under the State Coach who must be under pressure to prove himself. BBI with McCarron and the "Big" from Ipswich are going to get better as they go along. (Predict them to be a Classics giant killer) Logan with all the raw physical athletic talent will turn out to be everyone's worst nightmare.
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01-10-07, 14:41
Yeh i see what you mean..and im not gonna argue bout marc being better than isiah..because he simply isnt...and marc is not a point guard...i just thought u left out marc as a physical presence...cheers
true that marc isn't a point gaurd. but by the looks of it, sid will have him filling a lot of positions this season. if he works on his shot then he will definitely become a greater offensive threat, but right now i feel that the kid is a great half court defensive player who could be an asset for a team when they need a gaurd to step up and play on the big man's table. i agree that he isn't experienced as a point gaurd, but that's probably because the first time he played it was at the grading tournament. isaih has been playin it for years and this experience in the role definitely shows through. he's got a great shot and is able to organise his team, so good job isaih but i wouldn't write marc rotteler off yet by any means.
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01-10-07, 16:53
1st maroochydore
2nd gold coast
3rd brisbane
4th south west
5th logan
6th districts
not much between top 6 sides and a great season lies ahead.
home court advantage for maroochydore will be huge and get them into top place by seasons end.
gold coast will continue to improve as the season goes on.
brisbane have good deph and size to give it a shake. where are the sengstock twins?
south west will be tough all season with sid at the helm.
logan have plenty bottom aged talent to booster the seniors and will upset sides above them during the season.
districts are solidbut lack depth tha will hurt them at the end of the season
lets take astep back and start again
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01-10-07, 23:22
lets take astep back and start again
It's been a few weeks since BQ's silly little "grading tournament" (another little money spinner) and I'm thinking anyone with any nouse never got too excited about the results of a series of 20 minute scrimmages, a month before competition commenced, anyway. We'll have some fair indications by early December and of course the bigger picture by Easter. Early days.
It's been a few weeks since BQ's silly little "grading tournament" (another little money spinner) and I'm thinking anyone with any nouse never got too excited about the results of a series of 20 minute scrimmages, a month before competition commenced, anyway. We'll have some fair indications by early December and of course the bigger picture by Easter. Early days.
I disagree that the event was either silly or simply a money spinner. Whilst the games weren't much to get excited about in terms of that the powerhouse teams in each age group cruised through, they were nonetheless important. In each age group a second side from an association made it through to premier league, and a number of first sides from associations missed out. Hopefully, with the reduction in number of teams in the top division, there will be less double header weekends, and the games will be more compeditive on the whole.
One of the downfalls of having each association field teams in the top division was that weaker teams did not gain a lot from their games in which they were regularly flogged, teams often had to travel long distances to play these matches which were foregone conclusions. Personally, i think the new system of qualification will develop the competition further.
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02-10-07, 14:58
Just took the time to look at Cup pools in age groups for BQJBC. This will impact down the road when cross overs start fro Premier Challenge. Truth is the pools are a mess. Take the time to have a look. In one grade teams play own association and next door neighbours in a mockery of what the revised copetition was supposed to be about.
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02-10-07, 16:12
Revised comp is about improving Premier league, who cares about southern cup, they are just 2nd rate teams anyway... right?
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02-10-07, 18:38
i think your forgetting one special individual in jesse hillary how can forget such great potential...
all this talk about the sunny coast kid tueta but seriously jesse has legths of potential compared to tuetas limited amount...
hillary will be dominent during premier league and work his way to captain the state team in '08'
any thoughts??
I agree with the grading tournament it gives great lead up games a month out from premier league. Coaches get to learn about there team and get to go and work on their weaknesses before the season proper. Granted that where you need to be firing is april, it still makes sense to get some pre-season games under your belt. When it comes to state players boys i think jesse hillary and isiah will both make it. Jesse would be a great fit for this years 18's with his uncomperising hard play would be a geat foil for someone like isiah no doubt they would play well together. But there is a player the TANK has to ask about curly headed gaurd from gold coast played as a bottom ager last year. Seen him play a couple of games last year shoots well from outside, got a nice runner and can get to the rack and can also d it up tight. I didnt see him at the grading tournament. Maybe our fine featherd friend that struts not stalks may have some info on him.
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03-10-07, 09:59
I agree with the grading tournament it gives great lead up games a month out from premier league. Coaches get to learn about there team and get to go and work on their weaknesses before the season proper. Granted that where you need to be firing is april, it still makes sense to get some pre-season games under your belt. When it comes to state players boys i think jesse hillary and isiah will both make it. Jesse would be a great fit for this years 18's with his uncomperising hard play would be a geat foil for someone like isiah no doubt they would play well together. But there is a player the TANK has to ask about curly headed gaurd from gold coast played as a bottom ager last year. Seen him play a couple of games last year shoots well from outside, got a nice runner and can get to the rack and can also d it up tight. I didnt see him at the grading tournament. Maybe our fine featherd friend that struts not stalks may have some info on him.
Possibly Dane Taylor?? Word is that he isnt play bball anymore??? confirm??
Roger that. Sounds like Dane Taylor. Very accurate description of his abilities I might say. Dane has succomed to the lure of the surf - a danger for all who dwell on the beautiful Coast. He is enjoying surfing and plays ball for Hillcrest Christian College on the school circuit. He is a loss to the rep scene on the Coast :( but he is happier :D and, in the long run, that's what this is all about.
Emu - Observer of all things Coastal.
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03-10-07, 13:28
I agree with the grading tournament it gives great lead up games a month out from premier league. Coaches get to learn about there team and get to go and work on their weaknesses before the season proper. Granted that where you need to be firing is april, it still makes sense to get some pre-season games under your belt. When it comes to state players boys i think jesse hillary and isiah will both make it. Jesse would be a great fit for this years 18's with his uncomperising hard play would be a geat foil for someone like isiah no doubt they would play well together. But there is a player the TANK has to ask about curly headed gaurd from gold coast played as a bottom ager last year. Seen him play a couple of games last year shoots well from outside, got a nice runner and can get to the rack and can also d it up tight. I didnt see him at the grading tournament. Maybe our fine featherd friend that struts not stalks may have some info on him.
I think its a kid called Josh Blank who was injured and sitting on the Gold Coast bench during the grading tournament. Kid can light it up on his night and will make a difference to Gold Coast's scoring capability, however, and without disparaging any young player, (either young Blank or Jessie Hilleary), its a lo-o-ng jump from local comp to the National level. Not saying they wont make the team, just that they would in no way be dominant at that level.
Josh didn't play bottom age 18's last year nor is he overly curly haired....... so I think Dane is the player being referred to by the inimitable Tank. Having said that, you are right. Josh can light it up on his night and he will make a difference. Josh made shadow for the 16 State team last year. I know its a hypothetical, but I'll stick my long neck out and say he would have made the team if not for a long term injury. He has been injured again at the start of this rep season but will hit the floor fully fit eventually and then...... look out! :eye-popping:
Don't forget he is joined by 3 other lads who did make the QLD Under 16 team: Nick Seton, Jarrod McCarthy and Jesse Frankland. So there is talent to burn at the coaches' disposal, his job will be to get them to gel. My guess is.... he will! :cool:
Emu - Biased Gold Coast Bird
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03-10-07, 14:09
Josh didn't play bottom age 18's last year nor is he overly curly haired....... so I think Dane is the player being referred to by the inimitable Tank. Having said that, you are right. Josh can light it up on his night and he will make a difference. Josh made shadow for the 16 State team last year. I know its a hypothetical, but I'll stick my long neck out and say he would have made the team if not for a long term injury. He has been injured again at the start of this rep season but will hit the floor fully fit eventually and then...... look out! :eye-popping:
Don't forget he is joined by 3 other lads who did make the QLD Under 16 team: Nick Seton, Jarrod McCarthy and Jesse Frankland. So there is talent to burn at the coaches' disposal, his job will be to get them to gel. My guess is.... he will! :cool:
Emu - Biased Gold Coast Bird
My read is that the natural exuberence, playing talent and camraderie between Messers. Seton, McArthy and Frankland will cause that team to "gel" and play good ball...far more than any input from their coach.
They are Coast boys after all!
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03-10-07, 14:14
Josh didn't play bottom age 18's last year nor is he overly curly haired....... so I think Dane is the player being referred to by the inimitable Tank. Having said that, you are right. Josh can light it up on his night and he will make a difference. Josh made shadow for the 16 State team last year. I know its a hypothetical, but I'll stick my long neck out and say he would have made the team if not for a long term injury. He has been injured again at the start of this rep season but will hit the floor fully fit eventually and then...... look out! :eye-popping:
Don't forget he is joined by 3 other lads who did make the QLD Under 16 team: Nick Seton, Jarrod McCarthy and Jesse Frankland. So there is talent to burn at the coaches' disposal, his job will be to get them to gel. My guess is.... he will! :cool:
Emu - Biased Gold Coast Bird
Meant to say...the mystery deepens and would now like to confirm this kids name...the kid I'm talking about played in the 2 spot with Mick Gulotta for GC in the 2007 BQJBC/Classics team. He has dark hair (slightly curley) and can shoot the lights out or get to the rack on either hand. (RH preferred I think) I think I saw him sitting on the GC bench in street clothes during the tournament. Which one is he?
Meant to say...the mystery deepens and would now like to confirm this kids name...the kid I'm talking about played in the 2 spot with Mick Gulotta for GC in the 2007 BQJBC/Classics team. He has dark hair (slightly curley) and can shoot the lights out or get to the rack on either hand.
That's Dane Taylor
"I think I saw him sitting on the GC bench in street clothes during the tournament."
That's Josh Blank
Wow, where would you guys be without me?
Emu - Clarifier of confused situations.
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03-10-07, 18:26
hmmmmm i was thinkin and it seems that the south QAS program is lookin very bias brisbane based players. Maroochydore who is is thought bto be one of, if not the best team in this up and coming season do not have one player in QAS. Poeple talk about how great thier players are, well if they are so great shouldn't they ahve a QAS scholarship, its such a joke now!!!!!! If the state is really concerned about developing great players at the national leval they might want to start putting some more effort and time in thier selections. Im thinkin that the 2008 national team will consist of very few QAS players. This means the players have less of an opertunity to play together and gell as a team. Somethin needs to be done..... it is a joke atm!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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03-10-07, 18:55
hmmmmm i was thinkin and it seems that the south QAS program is lookin very bias brisbane based players. Maroochydore who is is thought bto be one of, if not the best team in this up and coming season do not have one player in QAS. Poeple talk about how great thier players are, well if they are so great shouldn't they ahve a QAS scholarship, its such a joke now!!!!!! If the state is really concerned about developing great players at the national leval they might want to start putting some more effort and time in thier selections. Im thinkin that the 2008 national team will consist of very few QAS players. This means the players have less of an opertunity to play together and gell as a team. Somethin needs to be done..... it is a joke atm!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
FYI, there is a person in QAS from maroochydore, that person being Courtney Browne, and there are only 2 kids in the QAS now from brisbane now that the graduation has occured, them being Matt Hodgeson (big ex-ipswich kid) and Mitchell McCarron. So i don't see where you are coming from. The association with the most QAS kids is either Runaway Bay or Southern Districts. You obviosuly have no clue of who is actually on scholarship.
Unregistered
03-10-07, 19:18
it would appear that bitching and politics is rife as usual. We are losing kids by the drove to other sports and activities because they are told they havent got this or that. I look at the names that are not there anymore and it is sad that coaches had put pressure on kids to the point where they have left. We need the numbers for depth and to challenge better players. All I see on this thread is talk about kids who are passionate and deserve this and deserve that. Really it doesnt mean thaey are good enough and can step up to the next level. Parents need to get away and get a life and support. We need ex basketballers to teach and coach and be unbiased and not those who are for this club or that club. Some day someone with guts has to tske the bull by the horne and re vamp this stuff. I am certainly not criticising the admin as they seem to be doing a top job. It is the real stuff on the court that needs to be handled. Is anyone hearing me. Forget YOUR kid. Does anyone get it for basketballs sake.
QAS. Good for some kids but not for everybody. Dosent mean you are not good enough but unfortunately people seem to think that if you are in it you have made it. Basketball is a tall persons sport so lets get some tall coahes to teach talls to play .We have to pay them somehow. Short kids have always had guts but we havt to get real if QLD want to go ahead and really compete. We have to look at TEAMS rather than individuals on old/past reputations.
Thanks. I love basketball. Lets make it better
Unregistered
03-10-07, 19:18
FYI, there is a person in QAS from maroochydore, that person being Courtney Browne, and there are only 2 kids in the QAS now from brisbane now that the graduation has occured, them being Matt Hodgeson (big ex-ipswich kid) and Mitchell McCarron. So i don't see where you are coming from. The association with the most QAS kids is either Runaway Bay or Southern Districts. You obviosuly have no clue of who is actually on scholarship.
OK then. Please enlighten us and advise who the 2007-08 scholarship holders are/will be now after graduation of this year's class. It's fair to say that kids who get the benefit of the intensive training centre program seem to improve and seem to be the preferred players for State selection. Please let us know who they are.
Unregistered
03-10-07, 20:50
OK then. Please enlighten us and advise who the 2007-08 scholarship holders are/will be now after graduation of this year's class. It's fair to say that kids who get the benefit of the intensive training centre program seem to improve and seem to be the preferred players for State selection. Please let us know who they are.
I'm sorry but myself not being involved with the QAS program, i don't know who is being offered a scholarship, nor should I. Although, i do know some of the kids that are on scholarship. All i'm saying is that maroochydore do have a player there..and have had a kid that that is now at the AIS!!!
Unregistered
03-10-07, 20:51
it would appear that bitching and politics is rife as usual. We are losing kids by the drove to other sports and activities because they are told they havent got this or that. I look at the names that are not there anymore and it is sad that coaches had put pressure on kids to the point where they have left. We need the numbers for depth and to challenge better players. All I see on this thread is talk about kids who are passionate and deserve this and deserve that. Really it doesnt mean thaey are good enough and can step up to the next level. Parents need to get away and get a life and support. We need ex basketballers to teach and coach and be unbiased and not those who are for this club or that club. Some day someone with guts has to tske the bull by the horne and re vamp this stuff. I am certainly not criticising the admin as they seem to be doing a top job. It is the real stuff on the court that needs to be handled. Is anyone hearing me. Forget YOUR kid. Does anyone get it for basketballs sake.
QAS. Good for some kids but not for everybody. Dosent mean you are not good enough but unfortunately people seem to think that if you are in it you have made it. Basketball is a tall persons sport so lets get some tall coahes to teach talls to play .We have to pay them somehow. Short kids have always had guts but we havt to get real if QLD want to go ahead and really compete. We have to look at TEAMS rather than individuals on old/past reputations.
Thanks. I love basketball. Lets make it better
One tall coach that we do have coaching in the North QLD QAS program is Shane Frolling. Is that not experience?
Unregistered
03-10-07, 22:05
One tall coach that we do have coaching in the North QLD QAS program is Shane Frolling. Is that not experience?
Frohling is about as good as they come oh asker of questions with obvious answers...the only shame is we dont have him down here! A good idea would be to increase his resources to allow him to spread his time and expertise equally between North and South.
Unregistered
03-10-07, 22:10
I'm sorry but myself not being involved with the QAS program, i don't know who is being offered a scholarship, nor should I. Although, i do know some of the kids that are on scholarship. All i'm saying is that maroochydore do have a player there..and have had a kid that that is now at the AIS!!!
Ohh thats a shame mate. But werent you just paying out some poor bugger for "not having any idea whose in the QAS"?? Anyhow since no one seems to know who is in the QAS this year maybe we just gotta wait and see...and see if QAS selections are any different to the previous 2 years.
Unregistered
03-10-07, 22:56
FYI, there is a person in QAS from maroochydore, that person being Courtney Browne, and there are only 2 kids in the QAS now from brisbane now that the graduation has occured, them being Matt Hodgeson (big ex-ipswich kid) and Mitchell McCarron. So i don't see where you are coming from. The association with the most QAS kids is either Runaway Bay or Southern Districts. You obviosuly have no clue of who is actually on scholarship.
Excuse me i was not reffering to BBI spacifically but the brisbane area in general (Spartans, BBI, South West). And i am not form mdore just think it is very noticable that thier is a considerable amount of bias towards Brisbane BASED teams and it is unfair for the players who are from the outskirts who are missing out on wat is ment to be a very good opertunity to enhance thier basketball skills and get noticed by selectors all over Australia.
The TANK believes that powers to be to play favourites but on the other hand the players that dont get the schollarships, get down in the trentches and work there back sides off when the lure and the bucks of the aba and nbl come lookin they will to take the right player with the right grunt weather he has had a schollarship or not. ie. Andrew Bogut not making his first state team but getting down and working hard and turning himself into AUS best produced basketball player.
Yes EMU Dane Taylor was the one i was thinking of, he absolutely ripped a few games at classics last year and if the lure of the surf hadnt taken his focus and he kept working hard after classics last year he might just have been the point gaurd the forum would be talkin about. As for Josh Blank i just happened to walk in and see him and Taylor Barry rip the regional state schools tournament final apart. He is as physical a gaurd as any top age included out there and can light it up. No disrespect to the top age gaurds.
As for my looks EMU as for having 3 toes on each foot, long skinny legs, into a fat little torso, with wings that dont work, a long skinny neck with a little head and a big nose aint that attractive either :lol2: please take that as a laugh because the TANK does enjoy your insightful and knowledgable GC club talk look forward to your reply.
Lets just say, in reference to your photo, the cloth required for my costume would be significantly more that required for yours!
:dunk: Boom!
You know the old adage "big toes, big...." :eye-popping:
Emu - Well endowed bird.
:lol2: Right back at ya
Unregistered
04-10-07, 15:53
Excuse me i was not reffering to BBI spacifically but the brisbane area in general (Spartans, BBI, South West). And i am not form mdore just think it is very noticable that thier is a considerable amount of bias towards Brisbane BASED teams and it is unfair for the players who are from the outskirts who are missing out on wat is ment to be a very good opertunity to enhance thier basketball skills and get noticed by selectors all over Australia.
for everyones information, the majority of players in QAS last year were from the coast. they included kate webb, anto olah, jess blundell-thornton, emily allen, adan walsh, izzy chilcott and gretel tippet. south west had teys, liowillie, teghan aslette and rotteler. districts had michael hey, tom laycock, the twins, taylor valach, tahlia jeffress and rachel arthur. brisbane had brock, matt hodgson (ex-ipswich), meghan burns, odette andrew, leeara creet, mccarron and caroline kent. then there was courtney browne and dave wagner from maroochydoore, as well as ashlee wallis. some of these players weren't on scholarship, just developing i think?
i personally feel that with world junior championship squads comin up, the coaches will probably focus on younger age groups to prepare them for the trials for the various squads. any thoughts?
The real issue as I see it is that with ITC exactly the same number of athletes get picked from south as the north which just can not be possible. Have a look at results for starters. Then tell me that one third of the State produces twice as many atheletes as the other part of the State. Not probable. We are all expected to just sit and accept it.
The south gets screwed every year but no matter to those athletes down here who work hard. All you need to do to get into QAS is move above Rocky.
I really thought things would cahnge but it seems they will not.
Unregistered
04-10-07, 15:54
my mistake, i meant the largest group of players, not the majority.
Unregistered
04-10-07, 19:03
The real issue as I see it is that with ITC exactly the same number of athletes get picked from south as the north which just can not be possible. Have a look at results for starters. Then tell me that one third of the State produces twice as many atheletes as the other part of the State. Not probable. We are all expected to just sit and accept it.
The south gets screwed every year but no matter to those athletes down here who work hard. All you need to do to get into QAS is move above Rocky.
I really thought things would cahnge but it seems they will not.
Hmm...reasonable logic and fair point. Not a North basher in any way as they have a right to the sport as well despite their unfortunate geography...(and the game needs them)
HOWEVER... its true that a lot of more talented athletes down south miss out on intensive training centre program benefits because places and resources are given to Northern kids under some sort of "quota" arrangement. Pretty difficult really. Some good kids up North (and of course our best Coach in Shane Frohling) but there's a heap more talented kids down here who will go begging. How do they divvy it up in NSW and VIC?
Unregistered
04-10-07, 21:37
for everyones information, the majority of players in QAS last year were from the coast. they included kate webb, anto olah, jess blundell-thornton, emily allen, adan walsh, izzy chilcott and gretel tippet. south west had teys, liowillie, teghan aslette and rotteler. districts had michael hey, tom laycock, the twins, taylor valach, tahlia jeffress and rachel arthur. brisbane had brock, matt hodgson (ex-ipswich), meghan burns, odette andrew, leeara creet, mccarron and caroline kent. then there was courtney browne and dave wagner from maroochydoore, as well as ashlee wallis. some of these players weren't on scholarship, just developing i think?
i personally feel that with world junior championship squads comin up, the coaches will probably focus on younger age groups to prepare them for the trials for the various squads. any thoughts?
Chloe Coughlin, Brent Sheppard & Josh Blank were in the mix for QAS aswell yeah?
Unregistered
05-10-07, 00:16
Ohh thats a shame mate. But werent you just paying out some poor bugger for "not having any idea whose in the QAS"?? Anyhow since no one seems to know who is in the QAS this year maybe we just gotta wait and see...and see if QAS selections are any different to the previous 2 years.
They'll be releasing the names soon, Induction Camp is in November.
Edward Sapphire
05-10-07, 00:23
The real issue as I see it is that with ITC exactly the same number of athletes get picked from south as the north which just can not be possible. Have a look at results for starters. Then tell me that one third of the State produces twice as many atheletes as the other part of the State. Not probable. We are all expected to just sit and accept it.
The south gets screwed every year but no matter to those athletes down here who work hard. All you need to do to get into QAS is move above Rocky.
I really thought things would cahnge but it seems they will not.
You can't blame the QAS for the geography of the Queensland State!! If the Southern players are so much better than the Norhtern players, which is what you are saying, then wouldn't it be more beneficial for the South kids to stay down here and play in the better competition rather than move North and play in a lesser comp. Also, the QAS athletes work soo much harder than everyone else, and that's what seperates them. If an athlete works hard enough, they'll have a great chance of a QAS scholarship.
Unregistered
05-10-07, 00:24
What's this thread got to do with the QAS?
Brisbane Capitals
05-10-07, 01:36
You can't blame the QAS for the geography of the Queensland State!! If the Southern players are so much better than the Norhtern players, which is what you are saying, then wouldn't it be more beneficial for the South kids to stay down here and play in the better competition rather than move North and play in a lesser comp. Also, the QAS athletes work soo much harder than everyone else, and that's what seperates them. If an athlete works hard enough, they'll have a great chance of a QAS scholarship.
Agree with part of what you say, the southern kids do play in a better comp. Great benifits to all the southern kids playing down here, very true.
However got to disagree with your statement regarding the QAS kids working harder than everyone else. Thats a pretty general statement, and IMO not true. There are lots of hard working kids from all over the state, and believe it or not, they are all NOT in the QAS. The QAS base their selections on potential, not necessarily skill level and commitment.
A case in point..who was the Qld male to play for Australia at the recently completed 19/under world championships? He was never in the QAS, and he is/was a hard worker with lots of skills and a bit of potential too. He is now getting paid to play pro ball with the Bullets, and all at the ripe old age of 18. QAS is great for some, not all. There are lots of other examples of non QAS kids making their mark. If they are good enough, focused and committed they will get there in the end.
Lets get back on track.
U/18 this year.
Top 4 in no particular order..
Spartans the twins, Scotty W, Chen, may lack a big? These guys been there before.
Maroochy Ishy geat PG, Miller, lots of others that are always commited to the team, mad coach!
Brisbane great depth, best big, lots of good young talent with 5 bottom agers
Goldie Mike G, lots of bottom agers too, decent depth,
SWM will be around the mark with Sid driving the team led by the workhorse MR
Logan Jesse H is good, lots of talent in the younger lads too, good coach, dark horse
Will be a good season, and I liked the atmosphere of the grading comp, and with a bit of refining should become a great event to kick off the Rep season each year. Great to see all the teams in the age group playing at the one venue in the preseason.
Cheers
Will be a good season, and I liked the atmosphere of the grading comp, and with a bit of refining should become a great event to kick off the Rep season each year. Great to see all the teams in the age group playing at the one venue in the preseason.
Cheers
But could we get full games next year, (maybe play it over 2 days)? Its not a real indication of the teams and some people (winners and losers) have placed far too much cred on what they saw that day. "Mad" indeed...humph!?!
Unregistered
05-10-07, 23:07
Yeah that is true. There have been many great players to not come out of an academy of sport.
Top 4 in no order:
Maroochydore:
Very quick team. Work well together with a mix of excellent shooting and an inside presence. Isiah and Lochy will kill it.
Spartans:
Solid as always. Anthony and David Semerad, Andy Chen, Scot Willis, Tom Laycock and a recovering Michael Hey. Verrry solid. Inside-out presence and with the shooting ability.
Gold Coast:
Really growing as a team. Christopher Riches as coach, with Gullota and the newly acquired Adan Walsh. Good on the boards. A tough team to stop.
Brisbane:
With Mitchell Mcarron and Corban Wroe as two very solid bottom-age guards, paired with the athletic and versatile Matthew Hodgson should be a good combination. Won't lay down.
Overall, I'm really looking forward to seeing this years competition.
Brendan Scotter
05-10-07, 23:10
Let's not forget South West. Marc Roeteller is one of the best guards in the state easily. Guess they need depth but.
Unregistered
07-10-07, 11:12
Mark is a good solid player but not one of the best guards going around in this competition.
He doesn't have the vision to play a guard at this level but a very good solid 3.
opposition coach
07-10-07, 11:46
Mark is a good solid player but not one of the best guards going around in this competition.
He doesn't have the vision to play a guard at this level but a very good solid 3.
I rate him...highly. A genuine danger.
Unregistered
07-10-07, 23:10
i agree completely. at this age, he still has the chance to play a lot of 3 man which i feel suits his build perfectly. as he gets older he'll have to step into the gaurd postions more but plenty of time for that to happen.
Unregistered
08-10-07, 06:39
i agree completely. at this age, he still has the chance to play a lot of 3 man which i feel suits his build perfectly. as he gets older he'll have to step into the gaurd postions more but plenty of time for that to happen.
Good point. Would be 'found out' however in the 3 position at National level, and even against some of the more athletic 3's locally.
Unregistered
08-10-07, 14:48
Good point. Would be 'found out' however in the 3 position at National level, and even against some of the more athletic 3's locally.
I see Harry MacDermott has made the move and changed schools to Mountain Creek, boarding with Rob and Di Tueta at Maroochydore, and working out daily with Isiah in order to give his basketball a fair crack this year. He and Aden Walsh were 2 of the best prospects out of Harvey Bay in recent times and both have followed their sporting ambitions, with their parents support and encouragement, by relocating to a stronger basketball program and regular competition. Tipping we'll see Walsh being utilised for his open court effectiveness by Riches in the 3 spot this year and Fawcett has already found the value of Harry's core and upper body strength finishing at speed in the lanes. Combined with a high percentage perimeter shot and strong boardsmanship, MacDermott is also adding to the list of handy "3 swing" men in this comp. Could be a season where previously unheard-of's will be the talking points come seasons end. You could safely predict Roeteller to be amongt that group. Strong upper body, foot speed, gritty determination and presumably a "green light" from Sid to go create where his experience tells him to, is a nice place to be for young Marc.
Unregistered
08-10-07, 18:40
[QUOTE=Unregistered;574]I see Harry MacDermott has made the move and changed schools to Mountain Creek, boarding with Rob and Di Tueta at Maroochydore, and working out daily with Isiah in order to give his basketball a fair crack this year. He and Aden Walsh were 2 of the best prospects out of Harvey Bay
Not meaning to be picky...but only Aden Walsh is form harvey bay...harry was from bundaberg..
Unregistered
08-10-07, 23:02
I see Harry MacDermott has made the move and changed schools to Mountain Creek, boarding with Rob and Di Tueta at Maroochydore, and working out daily with Isiah in order to give his basketball a fair crack this year. He and Aden Walsh were 2 of the best prospects out of Harvey Bay in recent times and both have followed their sporting ambitions, with their parents support and encouragement, by relocating to a stronger basketball program and regular competition. Tipping we'll see Walsh being utilised for his open court effectiveness by Riches in the 3 spot this year and Fawcett has already found the value of Harry's core and upper body strength finishing at speed in the lanes. Combined with a high percentage perimeter shot and strong boardsmanship, MacDermott is also adding to the list of handy "3 swing" men in this comp. Could be a season where previously unheard-of's will be the talking points come seasons end. You could safely predict Roeteller to be amongt that group. Strong upper body, foot speed, gritty determination and presumably a "green light" from Sid to go create where his experience tells him to, is a nice place to be for young Marc.
I think u will find Adan Walsh will play the middle lane as a hard running 4 man. I think you will find riches will run him to the post in transition and then screen himself out to the perimeter. Thats not to say he can not swing to the 3. I think Riches will run Gullota on one wing and have Correra running the other who is ready to have a huge year under the radar. Creighton will run the point with back up from Frankland and with the very athletic and rubust Nick Seton swinging the 3 and 4.
Unregistered
08-10-07, 23:20
I think u will find Adan Walsh will play the middle lane as a hard running 4 man. I think you will find riches will run him to the post in transition and then screen himself out to the perimeter. Thats not to say he can not swing to the 3. I think Riches will run Gullota on one wing and have Correra running the other who is ready to have a huge year under the radar. Creighton will run the point with back up from Frankland and with the very athletic and rubust Nick Seton swinging the 3 and 4.
Very detailed rundown. Must be very confident of the teams ability also to be giving that much away. Aden goes well running to the dunk spot in transition and both Gulotta and Creighton will find him with the ball in that dangerous position. Agreed, Daniel Correa is set to have a pretty big year. The kids been on my radar since last years Regionals and I have no doubts as to his danger. The one who flew under my radar not having seen him for a while is Adam Creighton. He never got an opportunity when Sid was coaching at Gold Coast but has certainly come up with the goods to prove his point since then. Jessie Frankland just brings that "anything can happen " factor when he subs in and you need to ensure you arent caught with any tired or defensively suspect players on your floor or he's sure to sniff them out and capitalise! Looking forward to week two when Maroochydore meet Gold Coast at (unfortunately) the Tallebudgera Leisure Centre. Sure to be a tight and action packed affair with both tems having extra motivation especially after Gold Coast's last effort against the Northern beach boys at Noosa a month or so ago. Maroochydore are treating it as a road trip and booking in to the centre overnight with the promise of morning waves the next day before the scrumptious breakfasts the centre serves up. Hope it's not raining and the cleaners have been in that day but you can be sure the new GC Association will have done everything possible to ensure conditions are at their optimum for their home game hosting. Matt Frankland and the team definately have it going on these days.
Cheers
Unregistered
09-10-07, 10:12
[QUOTE=Unregistered;574]I see Harry MacDermott has made the move and changed schools to Mountain Creek, boarding with Rob and Di Tueta at Maroochydore, and working out daily with Isiah in order to give his basketball a fair crack this year. He and Aden Walsh were 2 of the best prospects out of Harvey Bay
Not meaning to be picky...but only Aden Walsh is form harvey bay...harry was from bundaberg..
He surely is!!! May the Bundy Bear forgive me!
Unregistered
09-10-07, 19:22
I really dislike the way you people select the state team before trials have started. You are only drumming up business for your kids and trying to manipulate Chris Riches with your crap. I hope he is smart eough to not read this shit let alone believe any of it.
I really dislike the way you people select the state team before trials have started. You are only drumming up business for your kids and trying to manipulate Chris Riches with your crap. I hope he is smart eough to not read this shit let alone believe any of it.
Agree! "It aint over until the fat basketballer sings" :eek:(Apologies to opera buffs). It's early days yet with an entire season yet to be played with all its ups and downs, injuries etc so it's a bit early to start selecting now. Best to develop and mentor those kids with potential so we end up with the best possible outcome for QLD.
Unregistered
10-10-07, 18:12
I really dislike the way you people select the state team before trials have started. You are only drumming up business for your kids and trying to manipulate Chris Riches with your crap. I hope he is smart eough to not read this shit let alone believe any of it.
YEAH...... how dare you guys, on a public & open forum discuss this stuff!!!!! How dare you have opinions and express them as if you were in a free world!!!! SHAME ON YOU!!!!
Unregistered
11-10-07, 09:24
I really dislike the way you people select the state team before trials have started. You are only drumming up business for your kids and trying to manipulate Chris Riches with your crap. I hope he is smart eough to not read this shit let alone believe any of it.
Mate if you had heard the stories about Cris Riches and the upcoming U/18 State selections being spruiked about by some Gold Coast people you might be trying to highlight the qualities of some deserved candidates from elsewhere also. Of course everyone hopes they are only "stories".
Mate if you had heard the stories about Cris Riches and the upcoming U/18 State selections being spruiked about by some Gold Coast people you might be trying to highlight the qualities of some deserved candidates from elsewhere also. Of course everyone hopes they are only "stories".
Mate, the only thing blokes like you love more than a malicious rumour is a conspiracy theory.
Keep spreading those stories, I'm sure it gives your life some meaning!
Unregistered
11-10-07, 14:30
Regardless of these "stories", how is it that this year the coach of a premier league team is going to be the the state selector? I'm not saying that he is bias, but the players playing for his team will have a significant advantage over the other players by having months to show him what they have, while the other boys only have a few training sessions and maybe some games.
Regardless of these "stories", how is it that this year the coach of a premier league team is going to be the the state selector? I'm not saying that he is bias, but the players playing for his team will have a significant advantage over the other players by having months to show him what they have, while the other boys only have a few training sessions and maybe some games.
Not unusual for other codes to have coaches coaching club teams as well as state/national teams. However if Chris is going to be a dedicated Gold Coast coach who will be watching the other state squad members' games and making an assesment of their match play prior to selection.??
Unregistered
11-10-07, 18:55
Mate, the only thing blokes like you love more than a malicious rumour is a conspiracy theory.
Keep spreading those stories, I'm sure it gives your life some meaning!
No need for vitriolic cheap shots from you about an issue that's on everyones mind Emu. Your standard of commentary is usually far above that and much more objective. With you being so close to the GC scene I'd say you too would have heard the same gossip and alleged quotes, well know they are more than malicious rumours and conspiracy theories and, like all fair minded basketball people on the Coast (and elsewhere), are hyper-sensitive to them also. (Thus the uncharacteristic response). Nothing anyone can do but as conflict of interest ceased to be a consideration in any dealings by BQ some time back.
Unregistered
11-10-07, 19:51
Yes EMU Dane Taylor was the one i was thinking of, he absolutely ripped a few games at classics last year and if the lure of the surf hadnt taken his focus and he kept working hard after classics last year he might just have been the point gaurd the forum would be talkin about. (quote)
dane was one of the most under rated guards and probably could have made state tis year. a real loss to goldie. i heard he won the gold coast U/18 MVP last season bottom aged.. a shame he has given up. saw a few of his games last year and was impressed with his defense and ball skills. goldie seem to have a few good bottom agers who will cause some headaches though.
Unregistered
11-10-07, 21:12
What are these rumours and what is cris riches saying about players. Lets get it all out in the open
Unregistered
11-10-07, 22:27
Regardless of these "stories", how is it that this year the coach of a premier league team is going to be the the state selector? I'm not saying that he is bias, but the players playing for his team will have a significant advantage over the other players by having months to show him what they have, while the other boys only have a few training sessions and maybe some games.
It seems to be the tradition of late...premier league coaches being chosen for state teams...last year we had Pam Hamilton Smith coaching brisbane under 16 girls then getting 16's state girls. We had Donna coaching the under 18 districts girls then coach the under 18's state...then this year chris riches....its "the in thing". I for one understand it, as they do get a look at their team yes, but they also see every team. They also see every match up from their own team.
No need for vitriolic cheap shots from you about an issue that's on everyones mind Emu. Your standard of commentary is usually far above that and much more objective. With you being so close to the GC scene I'd say you too would have heard the same gossip and alleged quotes, well know they are more than malicious rumours and conspiracy theories and, like all fair minded basketball people on the Coast (and elsewhere), are hyper-sensitive to them also. (Thus the uncharacteristic response). Nothing anyone can do but as conflict of interest ceased to be a consideration in any dealings by BQ some time back.
I can say in all honesty that the only discussion I have heard with regard to state selections has been on this site. I think you may have noticed that I have had nothing to say at all on the subject because I agree with the many who think speculation at this point is useless waffle. I know all of the parents of the GC under 18 boys well and see them regularly. They are intelligent, well balanced people who are more interested in the season ahead than the selections at the end.
The other thing I can say is that the people who are discrediting Chris Riches have no idea of the calibre of the man. I had some small involvement in coach selection on the Coast this season. Chris is coaching on the Coast because he has family involvement down here and was already spending significant time on the Coast (as if ya wouldn't want to!) He suggested he may be available to coach but would prefer older age groups because he prefers to run zones in his repertoire. He preferred boys and most importantly he was not available to coach Under 16 Boys as he was the incumbent state coach and was hoping to be reappointed to that role. For that reason he was given the Under 18 boys guernsey. I have no idea as to the machinations of BQ and how their coach appointments are made, but suffice to say, Chris Riches was appointed Under 18 boys coach, not his preferred Under 16's. In every way Chris has acted with complete professionalism and he will approach selections in the same way I'm sure.
I think I have said more than the sideline snipers here deserve but it may explain my, so called, "Hypersensitivity"
Now...... is it possible to resume discussion about the season ahead and leave state selection discussion til muuuuuuuuuch later in the season.
Emu - Hypersensitive Flightless Bird.
This might help.
Unofficial tipping comp....... 1 point for the winner.... another point for the margin. In the interests of simplicity margins are 15+ or under 15.
Let me start.
Bay vs Waves. (Battle of the Beachies) Coast by 15+
Maroochy v Thunder. Maroochy by Under 15
Spartans v Capitals. (Battle of the Brizzos) Spartans by Under 15
Metro vs BBI Silver. (More Brizzos) Metro by 15+
Anyone care to disagree?
Emu
Question for EMU !!!!
12-10-07, 12:59
Since you are close to the parents of the u/18 Gold Coast boys is it true that one of the guards are heading to the staes to play and attend school for 6 months which the player in question will miss majority of p/l but his spot will be kept for him .if it is true ;;
1-do you think that this is fair for a number of the top age kids who missed out for this bottom aged kid who were as good if not better than the kid mentioned
2 - Do you really think that all of the parents will be happy about this decision ?
3- Would the same decision would have been given if the players father was not high up in G/Coast basketball and a good friend of the coach
4- And to be honest you know and a lot of other people know that C.Riches only applied for u/18s on the Gold Coast, and if my information is right Chris was approached at nationals about coaching on the G/Coast if true he still applied at SD before G/Coast, 2nd choice family time is just a lame excuse,still works in Brisvegas.
In the interests of keeping these forums positive and not wishing to get into a public slanging match with the parent of a non selected player and in order to keep this thread on topic ............... I'll let that one go thru to the keeper.
Unregistered
12-10-07, 14:55
In the interests of keeping these forums positive and not wishing to get into a public slanging match with the parent of a non selected player and in order to keep this thread on topic ............... I'll let that one go thru to the keeper.
Thats pretty LAME !!!!EMU - (OSTRICH bury the head in the sand and all will go away)
The chance to be honest about it and you let it slide to the keeper i think that statement said it all,
Its not what you know its who you know ,i wonder if it was your kid getting the raw deal how you would feel and your child,and how many mountains you would move to make things right,ESPECIALLY IF YOUR IN A POSITION TO BE ABLE TO, not bending rules and morales think about it and be honest with yourself !!!!
And its not about a slanging match its about principles and the morale thing to do,
In the interests of keeping these forums positive and not wishing to get into a public slanging match with the parent of a non selected player and in order to keep this thread on topic ............... I'll let that one go thru to the keeper.
In answer to Question for Emu, if said player misses a majority of Premier League Games then he would not be eligible to play finals under the BQJBC guidelines for player eligibility
"Players must play a minimum of 40% of games in a team to qualify to play finals for that team."
So I would be making sure that policy is adhered to.
In answer to unregistered.
Of course there's raw deals in competitive sport. Name me a competition where there isn't. There's always disappointments and cronism and favouritism. Kids have to be thought that that's part of life and get on with it. In the mean time if you believe you've been hard done by then you're quite entitled to take on the establishment however way you see fit. Lucky it's still a free country!
Unregistered
12-10-07, 15:30
In answer to Question for Emu, if said player misses a majority of Premier League Games then he would not be eligible to play finals under the BQJBC guidelines for player eligibility
"Players must play a minimum of 40% of games in a team to qualify to play finals for that team."
So I would be making sure that policy is adhered to.
In answer to unregistered.
Of course there's raw deals in competitive sport. Name me a competition where there isn't. There's always disappointments and cronism and favouritism. Kids have to be thought that that's part of life and get on with it. In the mean time if you believe you've been hard done by then you're quite entitled to take on the establishment however way you see fit. Lucky it's still a free country!
so what your saying when you get screwed over and find things not morale you dont worry about it, because ITS A PART OF LIFE ; what a load of crap ,obviously your name is really wanna dunk if i could,because obviously you have never worked that hard that when you get screwed over it hurts especially when parental politics and arse kissing is involved,
This probably isn't the place for it. If you would like to take it further, perhaps someone at GC basketball or the coach himself. I think you'd know how to get in contact with them. Then you can discuss MORALS, and team Morale.
Understand if you feel you have an axe to grind. But do it with the people who can be part of the solution, not here.
And do you feel the need for personal insults (the slanging match emu didn't buy into). Emu chose discretion and thought it best not to comment (probably didn't think this was the right place).
Back on topic please.
I'm the kid
12-10-07, 20:17
this is the kid that is apparently going away for '6 months' . where are you gettting this info from?? its only 3 months and i will be playing games before i leave and when i come back, making the required 40% of the games needed to play finals. i only found out a week ago that i was able to to go on this trip. My Dad asked the Coach what he thought and he said it was a good thing.
I see it as a great opportunity to go to an american school over christmas to learn and play some basketball!
Quote: Since you are close to the parents of the u/18 Gold Coast boys is it true that one of the guards are heading to the staes to play and attend school for 6 months which the player in question will miss majority of p/l but his spot will be kept for him .if it is true ;;
yes its true i am going to the states. no its not true that i am going for 6 months, its only 3. and i will be makeing the needed 40% of the games. And no, my spot is not kept for me when i come back. i have spoken to the coach and been told the when i return i will be played as the 11th man.
i'm still training with the team and playing right up to wen i leave.
Unregistered
12-10-07, 22:13
Hell of a touchy subject that one amongst u/18 boys stakeholders!
Anyone got the juice on who's hot and who's not this Saturday night?
Unregistered
13-10-07, 08:18
This might help.
Unofficial tipping comp....... 1 point for the winner.... another point for the margin. In the interests of simplicity margins are 15+ or under 15.
Let me start.
Bay vs Waves. (Battle of the Beachies) Coast by 15+
Maroochy v Thunder. Maroochy by Under 15
Spartans v Capitals. (Battle of the Brizzos) Spartans by Under 15
Metro vs BBI Silver. (More Brizzos) Metro by 15+
Anyone care to disagree?
Emu
do you really think that BBI silver could beat south west metro at all emu? let alone by 15? i tip metro by 15+, u clearly underestimate that teams heart and potential.
Unregistered
13-10-07, 08:57
do you really think that BBI silver could beat south west metro at all emu? let alone by 15? i tip metro by 15+, u clearly underestimate that teams heart and potential.
I'm thinking the BBI silver tails might be just too "big" inside for SWM. SW will want to hit every shot as they wont get seconds. BBI Silver could have difficulty getting up and down the floor with SWM if they run.
Very much a wait and see.
Unregistered
13-10-07, 10:18
do you really think that BBI silver could beat south west metro at all emu? let alone by 15? i tip metro by 15+, u clearly underestimate that teams heart and potential.
Buddy im pretty sure EMU said that south west metro was going to win by 15+......maybe you need to read his post again?
Unregistered
13-10-07, 10:35
Maroochydore to beat Logan by >15 (home court advantage at Maroochydore is huge!)
BBI to defeat Districts by <15 (BBI could be the dark horse of the tournament)
SWM to defeat BBI Silver by >15 (Sidney won't let his boys relax at any stage)
Gold Coast to defeat Runaway Bay by >15 (too big, too strong, too smart, too good)
Unregistered
13-10-07, 12:06
Maroochydore to beat Logan by >15 (home court advantage at Maroochydore is huge!)
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Cant understand why there is supposed to be such a huge home court advantage at Maroochydore? Can anyone explain?
Unregistered
13-10-07, 12:20
It seems to be the tradition of late...premier league coaches being chosen for state teams...last year we had Pam Hamilton Smith coaching brisbane under 16 girls then getting 16's state girls. We had Donna coaching the under 18 districts girls then coach the under 18's state...then this year chris riches....its "the in thing". I for one understand it, as they do get a look at their team yes, but they also see every team. They also see every match up from their own team.
My bad, Pam coached the 18 girls premier league and 16s state....
Unregistered
13-10-07, 12:22
Cant understand why there is supposed to be such a huge home court advantage at Maroochydore? Can anyone explain?
Because it's a rather large travel distance fro most teams, and there is only 1 court....which the maroochydore team ges to train on every time...where as everyone else trains at different places...its also a massive mental issue for both sides.
Unregistered
13-10-07, 14:44
Because it's a rather large travel distance fro most teams, and there is only 1 court....which the maroochydore team ges to train on every time...where as everyone else trains at different places...its also a massive mental issue for both sides.
Yeh, agree with the travel side of things. It's a long trip and you know they are going to be on fire when you get there.
Unregistered
14-10-07, 11:46
any interesting results from last night, a very tough fought game down at mdore, mdore came out on top by 20 in the end but take nuthin from logan they played hard and even had the lead in he third quarter.jessie hilary with 33 points, isaih tueta with 26 points, loklan miller with 19 points and a massive 23 REBOUNDS. mdore did not plok out and logan relied on second opertunities. But in the forth quarter they pulled there fingure out and with strong play from all there players runnin the lane they gathered easy baskets on the brake. very even score spread for mdore, logan relied on hilary a bit to much and when he was contained they had no answer.
very good and physical game god effort to both teams.
Unregistered
14-10-07, 16:07
watched the game last night, was pretty much dominated by spartans with there 5.. andy,tom,scott,dave,anothony. didn't know how good those 5 play together but they play pretty good together, last night tom was the go to guy had around 20something with the twins dominating the boards, scott was hitting his shots, and andy controlled the tempo pretty well aswel. dont know what brisbane where doing with matt not getting enough court time, had no clue what they were doing at times, they were down by 25, put him back on then get it back down to 15 then sub him out, had no clue what they were doin with that, they needed to keep him on alot more, but from start to finish spartans were they better team, well drilled and were always gonna win after the solid start they had, were up by as much as 30 i think then just played it out, ended up winning by the 20ish margin, looking solid but
Unregistered
14-10-07, 16:28
any interesting results from last night, a very tough fought game down at mdore, mdore came out on top by 20 in the end but take nuthin from logan they played hard and even had the lead in he third quarter.jessie hilary with 33 points, isaih tueta with 26 points, loklan miller with 19 points and a massive 23 REBOUNDS. mdore did not plok out and logan relied on second opertunities. But in the forth quarter they pulled there fingure out and with strong play from all there players runnin the lane they gathered easy baskets on the brake. very even score spread for mdore, logan relied on hilary a bit to much and when he was contained they had no answer.
very good and physical game god effort to both teams.
who ever wrote this i feel needs to get there information right, logan didnt relie on jesse to much, it was just a case of jesse tryin to take everythin into his own hands like always,
thanx
Unregistered
14-10-07, 18:28
Sat nights game:
SWM: 104 - Brisbane Silver: 34
60 point win for the Metro
Unregistered
14-10-07, 19:32
typical southwest, cant even minus, if u can do math u will find that its a 70pt win haha
Unregistered
14-10-07, 20:12
the game at m'dore showed how close this competition will be this year. Until the last 2 minutes logan were right in the game and the blowout only occured when Jesse and mitchell vasterink were benched. Jesse Hilleary was not shut down at any point in this game, and whoever commented on his lack of team play was totally wrong. (jealousy is a curse!) Full credit to M'dore who are strong and didn't panic when the pressure was applied. This year's competition will be very close, and favourites will be hard to pick until well into the 2nd round. the expirience of southern districts starting 5 will be hard to beat in the first round.
any thoughts?
Unregistered
14-10-07, 22:13
the game at m'dore showed how close this competition will be this year. Until the last 2 minutes logan were right in the game and the blowout only occured when Jesse and mitchell vasterink were benched. Jesse Hilleary was not shut down at any point in this game, and whoever commented on his lack of team play was totally wrong. (jealousy is a curse!) Full credit to M'dore who are strong and didn't panic when the pressure was applied. This year's competition will be very close, and favourites will be hard to pick until well into the 2nd round. the expirience of southern districts starting 5 will be hard to beat in the first round.
any thoughts?
i think this is right to an extent in this comp. The team that would weaken the entire league this year would be the Brisbane 2 side, who got thrashed by 60-70 by south west this weekend. anyone care to add?
Unregistered
14-10-07, 23:51
i think this is right to an extent in this comp. The team that would weaken the entire league this year would be the Brisbane 2 side, who got thrashed by 60-70 by south west this weekend. anyone care to add?
Without naming or shaming individual sides/clubs as thats not the point nor fair from the perspective of basketball development, but tell me just what this grading tournament and its 20 minute scrimmages has done for basketball and the competition overall. I thought it was supposed to eliminate blow out games and provide a more even competition. There were still blow out games in 18 girls, 16 boys and all over the league from what we see here. I'll contend as before that its merely a revenue spinner for BQ and part of the plan to enable the major Associations (Districts and BBI) to have multiple teams in the competition and dominate junior basketball availability at the expense and detriment of other smaller associations trying to develop. Why not let an Ipswich team get beat by 60+ rather than a second Brisbane side? Least gives the kids in Ipswich something to aspire to.
Maroochydore Coach
15-10-07, 00:27
any interesting results from last night, a very tough fought game down at mdore, mdore came out on top by 20 in the end but take nuthin from logan they played hard and even had the lead in he third quarter.jessie hilary with 33 points, isaih tueta with 26 points, loklan miller with 19 points and a massive 23 REBOUNDS. mdore did not plok out and logan relied on second opertunities. But in the forth quarter they pulled there fingure out and with strong play from all there players runnin the lane they gathered easy baskets on the brake. very even score spread for mdore, logan relied on hilary a bit to much and when he was contained they had no answer.
very good and physical game god effort to both teams.
Pretty good grasp of the game (if not so good grammar and spelling). Logan came up the Coast with a full head of steam and the Northern Beach Boys right in their sights. (M'Dore knew Logan meant business when they insisted on making us change playing strips due a colour clash minutes before the game-turned out the boys get super inspired when they get to play in the senior Clippers ABA uniforms and it actually amped them up a bit more!) They played the normal hard, physical, Logan style of game and are to be commended on their defensive transition which many times saw them foil the blistering Maroochydore fast break. Maroochy's second phase transition was equal to the task however and they were able to execute well and convert a good percentage but just had no answer to Jessie Hilleary....until!
Hilleary gave a display of fearless shooting both going to the rack and beyond the arc...and I mean BEYOND the arc! Some of his 3's were deeper than Christian Salecich's and gave Maroochydore all sorts of headaches defending with Vasterink, Gammeren and their #12 and #14 athletic boys sliding into the gaps left. Half time saw Hilleary with 21 points and having been defended by 3 different M'Dore (usual) defensive "stoppers'. Maroochydore went to the half time break marginally up but with Hilleary looking like a game breaker for Logan, until Isiah Tueta personally intervened. In what can best be described as a "Captain's knock", Tueta gave an insight as to his considerable defensive smarts and capabilities and personally took it on himself to limit Hillearies touches of the rock and ensure he was always out of his preferred shooting areas. The whole 2nd half up until 3 minutes to go yielded only 6 points for Jessie with Izzy on his case and with Mueller, Phillips, Pleysier, Sheraton , MacDermott and Turner all making good baskets in support of Izzy's defense, Maroochydore were able to build another slight lead. But then, with 3 minutes to go, Hilleary lit up again from super deep and nailed 2x 3 pointers from 2 touches with Tueta right in his jock, taking his game total to a very respectable 31pts. Gave Maroochydore another wake up call but it just wasnt to be for the Logan boys as Maroochydore went on a bit of a "showtime" last 2 minutes and blew the lead out to 19 pts.
Very entertaining high standard game that was closer than the final score indicated. Logan look likely to be in each and every game they play with Hilleary's new found offensive confidence and the athletic toughness of Vasterink, Gammeren and their athletic forward line.
Maroochydore's post game had the boys find a new resolve to shake off the complacency which had crept in after the grading comp and a few weeks lay off and about at the beach.
Unregistered
15-10-07, 00:34
Hoi! Forgot to mention...
There was a block in the game by James Mueller (called a foul and probably was...if not goal tending)...but fair dinkum, Mueller swatted this ball level with the top of the backboard square! Pleysier can jump and got a couple of little dunks off baseline drives during the game, however this leap by Mueller and another one going for a mid court intercept were freaky feats of elevation and show the benefits of the AFL game to a basketballer's fitness and jumping ability.
Unregistered
15-10-07, 14:41
Pretty good grasp of the game (if not so good grammar and spelling). Logan came up the Coast with a full head of steam and the Northern Beach Boys right in their sights. (M'Dore knew Logan meant business when they insisted on making us change playing strips due a colour clash minutes before the game-turned out the boys get super inspired when they get to play in the senior Clippers ABA uniforms and it actually amped them up a bit more!) They played the normal hard, physical, Logan style of game and are to be commended on their defensive transition which many times saw them foil the blistering Maroochydore fast break. Maroochy's second phase transition was equal to the task however and they were able to execute well and convert a good percentage but just had no answer to Jessie Hilleary....until!
Hilleary gave a display of fearless shooting both going to the rack and beyond the arc...and I mean BEYOND the arc! Some of his 3's were deeper than Christian Salecich's and gave Maroochydore all sorts of headaches defending with Vasterink, Gammeren and their #12 and #14 athletic boys sliding into the gaps left. Half time saw Hilleary with 21 points and having been defended by 3 different M'Dore (usual) defensive "stoppers'. Maroochydore went to the half time break marginally up but with Hilleary looking like a game breaker for Logan, until Isiah Tueta personally intervened. In what can best be described as a "Captain's knock", Tueta gave an insight as to his considerable defensive smarts and capabilities and personally took it on himself to limit Hillearies touches of the rock and ensure he was always out of his preferred shooting areas. The whole 2nd half up until 3 minutes to go yielded only 6 points for Jessie with Izzy on his case and with Mueller, Phillips, Pleysier, Sheraton , MacDermott and Turner all making good baskets in support of Izzy's defense, Maroochydore were able to build another slight lead. But then, with 3 minutes to go, Hilleary lit up again from super deep and nailed 2x 3 pointers from 2 touches with Tueta right in his jock, taking his game total to a very respectable 31pts. Gave Maroochydore another wake up call but it just wasnt to be for the Logan boys as Maroochydore went on a bit of a "showtime" last 2 minutes and blew the lead out to 19 pts.
Very entertaining high standard game that was closer than the final score indicated. Logan look likely to be in each and every game they play with Hilleary's new found offensive confidence and the athletic toughness of Vasterink, Gammeren and their athletic forward line.
Maroochydore's post game had the boys find a new resolve to shake off the complacency which had crept in after the grading comp and a few weeks lay off and about at the beach.
A very fair description of the game & izzy did do well on D on hilary in 2nd half however, with gamaran on bench alot in the 2nd stanza the logan key offensive threats hilary, vasterink & josh ? didn't receive the ball where they could truly be effective in attack not to say that all logan boys did not do a great job which they did but gamaran truley understands timing and the go to men at the right time on the right spot. Dave Mitchell is a smart coach and will quickly work out best combinations. Had gamaran been on floor more in 2nd half logan's offensive threats would have been greater.
Unregistered
15-10-07, 15:43
some very good descriptions of the mdore logan game. Any one got any other results from around the league, any players stand out with impressive stats?
Unregistered
15-10-07, 18:00
Sat nights game:
SWM: 104 - Brisbane Silver: 34
60 point win for the Metro
Dont read to much into the final result of this game, the Brisbane silver team had 8 players but only 5 fit players for this game, due to players injured and not available for the game.
score was 37 -20 at half time but they ran out of legs in the second half.
These are a very talented group of bottom age players who did earn the right to be in premier league.
Unregistered
15-10-07, 22:27
Dont read to much into the final result of this game, the Brisbane silver team had 8 players but only 5 fit players for this game, due to players injured and not available for the game.
score was 37 -20 at half time but they ran out of legs in the second half.
These are a very talented group of bottom age players who did earn the right to be in premier league.
they may be a very talented group of bottom age players, but they are simply not in the same league as the stronger premier league teams. and from what i saw they did play they're whole bench. just watch rest of the season and we'll see what happens when they play districts, maroochy, logan, etc.
No doubt this season will be exciting, with the 1st round played and results submitted, things are looking quiet tight between the teams...
What are peoples thoughts about the state coach and what are some predictions for the 'top15' QLD South players, more or less you could say this may be part of the state squad...?
My pick:
Izzy T
Locky Miller
Dav Semerad
Ant Semerad
Andy Chan
Scotty
Aiden Walsh
Michael Gullota
Mark Roteller
Jessie Hillary
Matt (Brisbane BIG, ex Ipswich)
Mitch Pleysier
Jed Turner
John Sheridan
Ryan Vines
Unregistered
15-10-07, 23:14
No doubt this season will be exciting, with the 1st round played and results submitted, things are looking quiet tight between the teams...
What are peoples thoughts about the state coach and what are some predictions for the 'top15' QLD South players, more or less you could say this may be part of the state squad...?
My pick:
Izzy T
Locky Miller
Dav Semerad
Ant Semerad
Andy Chan
Scotty
Aiden Walsh
Michael Gullota
Mark Roteller
Jessie Hillary
Matt (Brisbane BIG, ex Ipswich)
Mitch Pleysier
Jed Turner
John Sheridan
Ryan Vines
Pretty leading question asking for opinions on the State Coach given the earlier furore mention of him caused on here. Dont want to start it all again and it's far too early after 1 game to be naming best 15's and all that.
Tell you what but, I'd like to be coaching a team that went something like this:
1. Tueta
2. Hilleary
3. Semerand
4.Semerand
5.Miller
Rotations:
Gulotta
Walsh
Turner
"Big" from Ippy/Brisbane
another "elephant" for the middle.
Unregistered
16-10-07, 02:31
Who's your first "elephant"? No zoo in that team you picked though!
Unregistered
16-10-07, 08:39
they may be a very talented group of bottom age players, but they are simply not in the same league as the stronger premier league teams. and from what i saw they did play they're whole bench. just watch rest of the season and we'll see what happens when they play districts, maroochy, logan, etc.
Don't misunderstand me I am not saying that they will win to many games, but they will not give up either, with a full fit team they will be competitive, but realisticly it is all about next year for most of these boys.
Unregistered
17-10-07, 14:59
Yeah well the point still remains, we were not arguing weather they are goin to try or not, because they obviously will, we were sayin that they are probebly the only team in the league that is not up to standards. We do not dout their potential for next yr but this yr they aint guna cut it. Besides that the comp is lookin very compeditive and a good season of basketball is yet to come.
State Team:
The last team posted looks prety good. But i dont think another elephant is needed. You have Loklan miller and Matt making up the 5 spots wit adan and Dave samerad makin up the 4 spots.
Izzy and guloter hilary and maybe mitch pleysiar in the 4 guard positions. Then you could have anthony, Jed Turner or Harry Mac fillin in the 3 spots. Harry is very underated and even though he didnt not play very good on the w.e he still has shown great form of late (e.g. grading tourni when he was mdores top scorer) I think he will aslo give the state team better size wit guloter and izzy the smallest on the team, even though they both 6 ft any way. I think that would be a well rounded out team.
1.Izzy and gulota ( Both can run a team and drive and shoot. Both good scores for their respected teams, Also they have the ability to take there men of the dribble and creat for thier team mates)
2. Jessie and Mitch Pleysier (both very good shooters form byond the arc, e.g hillary on the w.e, and mitch is awsom running the lanes and finishing tough lay ups with his athletisizm)
3. Anthony and Harry ( Anthony very good shooting 3 man with the ability to take his player in the post and Harry can take his man of the dribble and his upper body stegth will allow him to hussle for boards and put backs.
4. Aiden and Dave ( both have nice mid range game and board very well. Aiden seems to loose his concentration and nopt sure about how effective he can be a nationals. But with Riches being his rep coach gives him an advantage over the rest of the pack.
5. Loklan and Mat ( two lefties which could either be a headache for the defence or a disavantage for QLD. Either way both an score and board, Loklan miller definatly proved him self on the w.e wit 21 points and 23 rebound.
Any comments???
Unregistered
17-10-07, 16:50
Yeah well the point still remains, we were not arguing weather they are goin to try or not, because they obviously will, we were sayin that they are probebly the only team in the league that is not up to standards. We do not dout their potential for next yr but this yr they aint guna cut it. Besides that the comp is lookin very compeditive and a good season of basketball is yet to come.
State Team:
The last team posted looks prety good. But i dont think another elephant is needed. You have Loklan miller and Matt making up the 5 spots wit adan and Dave samerad makin up the 4 spots.
Izzy and guloter hilary and maybe mitch pleysiar in the 4 guard positions. Then you could have anthony, Jed Turner or Harry Mac fillin in the 3 spots. Harry is very underated and even though he didnt not play very good on the w.e he still has shown great form of late (e.g. grading tourni when he was mdores top scorer) I think he will aslo give the state team better size wit guloter and izzy the smallest on the team, even though they both 6 ft any way. I think that would be a well rounded out team.
1.Izzy and gulota ( Both can run a team and drive and shoot. Both good scores for their respected teams, Also they have the ability to take there men of the dribble and creat for thier team mates)
2. Jessie and Mitch Pleysier (both very good shooters form byond the arc, e.g hillary on the w.e, and mitch is awsom running the lanes and finishing tough lay ups with his athletisizm)
3. Anthony and Harry ( Anthony very good shooting 3 man with the ability to take his player in the post and Harry can take his man of the dribble and his upper body stegth will allow him to hussle for boards and put backs.
4. Aiden and Dave ( both have nice mid range game and board very well. Aiden seems to loose his concentration and nopt sure about how effective he can be a nationals. But with Riches being his rep coach gives him an advantage over the rest of the pack.
5. Loklan and Mat ( two lefties which could either be a headache for the defence or a disavantage for QLD. Either way both an score and board, Loklan miller definatly proved him self on the w.e wit 21 points and 23 rebound.
Any comments???
Is Matt the big kid from BBI who used to play for Ipswich? He's gotta be a show especially with the time available to develop him before Nationals. Of course if he doesnt have the aptitude then its back to the drawing board. Still think I'd take Jed Turner in the forward line for his size, strength, speed in the lanes and a newly developed outside shot.
But you need to realise this is all just academic as only Coach Riches knows what he will do. Who knows he may decide to do what he did with the Gold Coast team and just take all the bottom age kids he liked from last year's state squad or simply select his Gold Coast team and all the players we are talking about would miss out. Who knows??!!
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17-10-07, 17:40
I would very much doubt that Mark Roetteler will miss out and what about Andy Chen from districts?
Lots of good players that have the chance to step up and show coach Chris their talent before seasons end.
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17-10-07, 19:15
I would very much doubt that Mark Roetteler will miss out and what about Andy Chen from districts?
Lots of good players that have the chance to step up and show coach Chris their talent before seasons end.
And which guard would you say Andy Chen is better or more effective than? And which small forward would Marc Roetteler be better or more effective than? (Remember this is at NATIONAL level!)
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17-10-07, 21:31
Yeah well the point still remains, we were not arguing weather they are goin to try or not, because they obviously will, we were sayin that they are probebly the only team in the league that is not up to standards. We do not dout their potential for next yr but this yr they aint guna cut it. Besides that the comp is lookin very compeditive and a good season of basketball is yet to come.
State Team:
The last team posted looks prety good. But i dont think another elephant is needed. You have Loklan miller and Matt making up the 5 spots wit adan and Dave samerad makin up the 4 spots.
Izzy and guloter hilary and maybe mitch pleysiar in the 4 guard positions. Then you could have anthony, Jed Turner or Harry Mac fillin in the 3 spots. Harry is very underated and even though he didnt not play very good on the w.e he still has shown great form of late (e.g. grading tourni when he was mdores top scorer) I think he will aslo give the state team better size wit guloter and izzy the smallest on the team, even though they both 6 ft any way. I think that would be a well rounded out team.
1.Izzy and gulota ( Both can run a team and drive and shoot. Both good scores for their respected teams, Also they have the ability to take there men of the dribble and creat for thier team mates)
2. Jessie and Mitch Pleysier (both very good shooters form byond the arc, e.g hillary on the w.e, and mitch is awsom running the lanes and finishing tough lay ups with his athletisizm)
3. Anthony and Harry ( Anthony very good shooting 3 man with the ability to take his player in the post and Harry can take his man of the dribble and his upper body stegth will allow him to hussle for boards and put backs.
4. Aiden and Dave ( both have nice mid range game and board very well. Aiden seems to loose his concentration and nopt sure about how effective he can be a nationals. But with Riches being his rep coach gives him an advantage over the rest of the pack.
5. Loklan and Mat ( two lefties which could either be a headache for the defence or a disavantage for QLD. Either way both an score and board, Loklan miller definatly proved him self on the w.e wit 21 points and 23 rebound.
Any comments???
Mitch is a great athlete but there are better 2 men
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18-10-07, 09:28
Mitch is a great athlete but there are better 2 men Yep. To be effective at National level you would probably need to rotate the better shooting Semerand back from the starting 3 to fill the 2 spot behind Hilleary. But that is right now at this moment. Pleysier has until easter (as do all players) to develop the skills required to fill a role on the Queensland team.
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18-10-07, 10:45
better 2 men??? like who....
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18-10-07, 13:50
There are plenty of talented players not even getting mentioned that could easily make the state team next year.
Seems like Maroochydore is getting a bit carried away with themselves at this early stage of the season.
The likes of Chan, Laycock, Roetteller, Quigley, Vasterick, Vines, Hay, McCarron etc are right in the hunt at this early stage.
As always there will be a few surprises and alot depending on how match ups go in certain games where pretenders will v contenders.
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18-10-07, 22:44
Please inform me on the better 2 men, i think the league is lacking in scoring 2 men and Mitch can drive, shoot, rebound and play d. he has very nice sculpted calfs aswell, much like James Muller and i think he would fit in well with the state team. he had 17 points in 18 mins at 61 % from the field against Logan
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18-10-07, 22:56
wats the deal wit micheal hay will he be playin this season or is he guna be injured? cant really see mitch macaron being physicaly cabable at NATIONALS leval, lets be serious. But i can see tom laycock and maybe rotler have a good hard sniff, keep on sniffin boys follow ur sent until u can sniff no more.
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18-10-07, 23:20
Please inform me on the better 2 men, i think the league is lacking in scoring 2 men and Mitch can drive, shoot, rebound and play d. he has very nice sculpted calfs aswell, much like James Muller and i think he would fit in well with the state team. he had 17 points in 18 mins at 61 % from the field against Logan
Highlights the problems that can arise from having young players with unsupervised and uneducated access to "statistics". Learn the game and how to play it before the "extras".
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19-10-07, 12:04
Please inform me on the better 2 men, i think the league is lacking in scoring 2 men and Mitch can drive, shoot, rebound and play d. he has very nice sculpted calfs aswell, much like James Muller and i think he would fit in well with the state team. he had 17 points in 18 mins at 61 % from the field against Logan
Mitch Pleysier had his best game of our preparation thus far against Logan last week in the opener, in what will be the first of many excellent performances this season .
Mitchell has, like all players on the Maroochydore team, made the commitment to Coaching staff and each other that they will be playing their season for the good of the team and the team's ultimate goal of a State Classics Championship, and not for any personal goal of making the State team. As such, his performance was but one of many excellent 'games' exhibited on both teams, but especially the winners.
Like any smart player, neither Mitch nor his team mates would be staking any case for selection nor their credibility as a player on a stats sheet, especially one that does not show the comparative results of the opposition. Stats can be a handy tool for Coaches at times, but damaging conversation pieces for players and parents.
Besides, where on a stats sheet does it say anything about Mitch's or Mueller's sculptured calves??
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19-10-07, 13:35
Mitch Pleysier had his best game of our preparation thus far against Logan last week in the opener, in what will be the first of many excellent performances this season .
Mitchell has, like all players on the Maroochydore team, made the commitment to Coaching staff and each other that they will be playing their season for the good of the team and the team's ultimate goal of a State Classics Championship, and not for any personal goal of making the State team. As such, his performance was but one of many excellent 'games' exhibited on both teams, but especially the winners.
Like any smart player, neither Mitch nor his team mates would be staking any case for selection nor their credibility as a player on a stats sheet, especially one that does not show the comparative results of the opposition. Stats can be a handy tool for Coaches at times, but damaging conversation pieces for players and parents.
Besides, where on a stats sheet does it say anything about Mitch's or Mueller's sculptured calves??
doesn't matter how many points someone can score, if their opponent drops just as many or more when they have to defend them, then they are a liability to their team. everyone focuses on offensive plays in these forums, but defense is just as or even more important. example, how many people hav got the nuts to take it into the key way when there's a 6foot 9 big way camping in the middle ready to block? presence can be a key factor on the court, don't forget that. any thoughts?
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19-10-07, 13:44
doesn't matter how many points someone can score, if their opponent drops just as many or more when they have to defend them, then they are a liability to their team. everyone focuses on offensive plays in these forums, but defense is just as or even more important. example, how many people hav got the nuts to take it into the key way when there's a 6foot 9 big way camping in the middle ready to block? presence can be a key factor on the court, don't forget that. any thoughts?
Very good point my friend!....and further reinforcement of the earlier post where young players and even parents sometimes become obsessed about their stats. Exactly true, they dont give a snap shot of how many times your man beat you, or how many 3's Jessie Hilleary shot in your face, or any number of the fundamental flaws to your game. Like was said, a sometimes handy tool for coaches, crap in the hands of anyone else.
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19-10-07, 16:55
just tryin to let u no the kid is effective, y does everyone find somethin to bitch about out of every topic. Lets keep talkin about premier league and not about STATS and how unefective they are.
YOU PEOPLE WILL FIND AYNTHIN TO BITCH ABOUT!!!
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20-10-07, 22:59
Stand in Coach Dion Mehar had Gold Coast pumping on all cylinders to be level with Maroochydore at qtr. time and just a few down at the half. Seeing State Coach Riches arrive mid game must have inspired the Maroochy boys to get their fingers out and they turned on their trademark running game to put the contest beyond doubt in the 3rd qtr., finishing about 20 up at the end.
Ex Maroochy small fwd, Aden Walsh was the standout for Gold Coast, with a nice array of shots from the block to the inside edge of the arc. Penetrated well in addition to his back to the basket stuff and kept annoying the Maroochydore front line as they were called with all sorts of little fouls defending him. Maroochydore too well drilled in their offensive execution and too precise in their defensive rotations to be seriously troubled and ran out deserved winners with a good even spread of scoring honours right down the roster.
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20-10-07, 23:23
districts vs south west was an unbelievable game. both teams had good games, usual players stood out from rest. mark roettler was unbelievable in both offence and defence, he kept his team alive during the whole game, didn't get a sub. twins, andy, scott and tom laycock from districts proved too strong in the end for what would appear to be an underdog team but that definitely didn't seem to phase most of the sw players, although some played absolutely terrible. top scorers i think were david semerad and mark roettler with 20 a piece. going to be a very interesting season if there's more games like this one. twins and roettler for state team for sure, andy and scott definitely lookin and playin like probable state players also. any one care to add?
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21-10-07, 05:36
districts vs south west was an unbelievable game. both teams had good games, usual players stood out from rest. mark roettler was unbelievable in both offence and defence, he kept his team alive during the whole game, didn't get a sub. twins, andy, scott and tom laycock from districts proved too strong in the end for what would appear to be an underdog team but that definitely didn't seem to phase most of the sw players, although some played absolutely terrible. top scorers i think were david semerad and mark roettler with 20 a piece. going to be a very interesting season if there's more games like this one. twins and roettler for state team for sure, andy and scott definitely lookin and playin like probable state players also. any one care to add?
Whats a "probable state player" look like?
Shame the state coach doesnt read bendoes as he was down the gold coast watching his very good team getting beaten by Isiah Tueta, Locky Miller, Harry McDermott, Jed Turner, James Mueller and Mitch Pleysier, to name a few. Doesnt seem fair does it?
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21-10-07, 08:47
Whats a "probable state player" look like?
Shame the state coach doesnt read bendoes as he was down the gold coast watching his very good team getting beaten by Isiah Tueta, Locky Miller, Harry McDermott, Jed Turner, James Mueller and Mitch Pleysier, to name a few. Doesnt seem fair does it?
hahaha good ol' mdoore, always gets the say in to talk up their players. didn't mention any gold coast boys in that, did we? and i'm sure that some of them must hav played alright too....
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21-10-07, 10:32
From last nights game at Runcorn these would be the players that would be considered for state on their performance last night:
Anthony Semerad
David Semerad
Scott Willis
Mark Roeteller
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21-10-07, 12:19
From last nights game at Runcorn these would be the players that would be considered for state on their performance last night:
Anthony Semerad
David Semerad
Scott Willis
Mark Roeteller
Is that post signed by Cris Riches? Is it Bruce Palmer or Joey Wright? Is it Graham Burns, Steve Brook or any of the office staff at BQ even? Qualifications please.
Are you taking my point here? On whose say so are these incessant cries of "State Selection-State Selection" coming? Go down the beach, pick up a handful of white sand, turn your hand sideways and squeeze real hard and try to stop it running out the bottom...you cant. Repeat the exercise and relax your grip...the sand stays put.
Now it might all sound a bit "Zen" to you, but truly, you can worry yourself (and everyone else) out of the very thing you desire most. In case you havent noticed, the other "State team selectors" on here are having a bit of a go at you by naming heaps of people and seeing how you keep "pushing" for the same kid, just with different players around him each time.
Now for your guidance, every kid who played at Runcorn, Carina or anywhere else last night, and who fills in a nomination form, gets it in on time to BQ, checks that it hasnt gotten "lost" at BQ, and turns up at the State team "trial" and pays their money WILL BE CONSIDERED for the State team. Those with a likelihood of making it will be narrowed down to about 30 or so. Then of course comes the big question of who will actually make it.
Just for the record the 4 players you named here are all amongst the top 20 chances to make it, with the Semerand twins amongst the top 10, (maybe even the top 5.) But maybe coach Riches will decide he doesnt like any of them, nor anyone from Maroochydore, Brisbane or anywhere else and take his whole Gold Coast team instead...who knows??? Hope your taking my point as to how fruitless it is for us to be speculating (and how silly it is to be getting aggro?!) about who and what the coach of the state team will pick and may do next year. Enjoy the moment and the basketball thats being played week to week without continuous speculation and propoganda on behalf of your favourite kid to make the state team. Everyone who fills in the form has a chance...(although those who Coach Riches personally asks to give him their form might have a better chance...LOL!! Only joking!) It never happened.
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21-10-07, 13:19
From last nights game at Runcorn these would be the players that would be considered for state on their performance last night:
Anthony Semerad
David Semerad
Scott Willis
Mark Roeteller
i think the last guy is right saying that chris riches/bruce palmer didn't write this, but as not to dogg this guy completely i think they probably could have said "should be considered" instead of "would be" because i saw the game and those four did play outstanding.
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21-10-07, 18:25
i think the last guy is right saying that chris riches/bruce palmer didn't write this, but as not to dogg this guy completely i think they probably could have said "should be considered" instead of "would be" because i saw the game and those four did play outstanding.
The Semerand brothers on the strength of their track record and present form would probably be considered as much a "certainty" for State selection as anyone can, (pure folly at best) but the other two would have some pretty strong competition from other "outstanding" players who have been playing outstanding ball CONSISTENTLY, for some time, with and against higher competition than U/18 premier league. For Pete's sake let it go will ya'! If the kid is meant to get in he will, but there's better about and if they are meant to, they will. Did the person concerned see the outstanding performances of Micheal Gulotta, Isiah Tueta, James Mueller, Mitch Pleysier and Wez Phillips last night to make their selection comparison? Adam Creighton turned in an outstanding performance for Gold Coast last night as well as another little gurd (dont know the name) who shot the lights out. I heard Mitchell McCarron had an outstanding game for BBI last night also. Harry McDermott played in the two spot last night and led the scoring by both teams as well as collecting a bag full of rebounds. Is anyone on here this morning trumpeting his 'compulsory' consideration for the State team? Are any of these other "outstanding performances" taken into the selection equation by this particular expert? I sincerely doubt it. By all means write up any kid or team who has a blinder and feel good about seeing good basketball and complementing the players and coaches concerned. Please give it (and the kids concerned) a rest from your obsession with a certain player and the State team.
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21-10-07, 18:30
From last nights game at Runcorn these would be the players that would be considered for state on their performance last night:
Anthony Semerad
David Semerad
Scott Willis
Mark Roeteller
sure i agree with 3 of them but im sorry to say this spectator doesnt agree with scott willis ive seen him play better than that game
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21-10-07, 19:12
i watched the southwest v southerndistricts game last night and "I" (note the I) would say that the game was played at a pretty good intensity and the winners deserved that game districts look like a very well drilled team, with there "5" playin most the game and will be strong, "personaly" i like the look of tom laycock's and scott willis's game last night, both kept there cool in the closing stages with scott getting a very good steal and layup over the defence to seal it, and tom's defence was very well and controlled the tempo, southwest were also unlucky but as it is only one team can win, "i" would say that southwest will be "nothing" without marc roetteler very mobile player can play the 2-3-4 spots and his hustle was outlined when the drove for the ball going out of bounds then throw it at the opposition player then southwest picked it up and gave it back to marc for the layup, was probably the biggest "ohhh" from the crowd the whole game, once again i say this from no-one that is within either team or parent, but "i" would say that the spartans starting 5 and marc would have a very good shot at making the state team, yes southwest have more than one player but without that one player (marc) they wouldnt get anywhere near as close to spartans as they did last night.. once again my thoughts
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21-10-07, 22:11
I agree. Nicholas Grant is the best player in Runaway Bay and without him they would be nothing. Nicholas should be in the state team too.
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22-10-07, 09:42
I agree. Nicholas Grant is the best player in Runaway Bay and without him they would be nothing. Nicholas should be in the state team too.
Yeh and look what Runaway Bay are doing. They were beaten by 40 vs Gold Coast and 68 vs Brisbane.
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22-10-07, 11:17
Yeh and look what Runaway Bay are doing. They were beaten by 40 vs Gold Coast and 68 vs Brisbane.
Well I've seen him play and I think he should be in as well as the other 4.
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22-10-07, 21:45
who ever thinks nick g should make state u need to watch him compared to the brisbane center who tore him up on sat night bay have a few trying out for state only one player who could stand a chance not sure his name but he can play he tore gold coast up last week
bay are doing alright though considering there team that they have 4 bottom aged players and 2 first time rep players with no experience
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22-10-07, 22:11
who ever thinks nick g should make state u need to watch him compared to the brisbane center who tore him up on sat night bay have a few trying out for state only one player who could stand a chance not sure his name but he can play he tore gold coast up last week
bay are doing alright though considering there team that they have 4 bottom aged players and 2 first time rep players with no experience
Really? Well, haven't seen much of Nick Grant but he dosen't have the size needed for center at a nationals.
What number or what did this guy who stands a chance look like?
Wouldn't be the James player they found from NSW would it? Bigger arms, quick combo-guard. I hear a few of the Bay team think they're shoe-ins for the squad, Number 8, goes by ando or something and there left handed guard, darker kid, bit of a joke if you ask me.
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22-10-07, 22:39
Gees...you wannabe state selectors/parents/players are WAY out of line. You obviously have no idea of the potential damage you are doing to kids with your knit picking, mean spirited and grossly uninformed opinions. Its obvious you dont have a clue about Junior mens basketball especially at U/18 level and definately no comprehension of what happens at a National Championship.
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23-10-07, 22:13
who ever thinks nick g should make state u need to watch him compared to the brisbane center who tore him up on sat night bay have a few trying out for state only one player who could stand a chance not sure his name but he can play he tore gold coast up last week
bay are doing alright though considering there team that they have 4 bottom aged players and 2 first time rep players with no experience
Yeh..Brisbane also have 4 bottom ages...except they are better players...that is why they are better than Runaway Bay. Ive seen that team play 2 times, and in neither game have i seen a state level player
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24-10-07, 20:00
Who is playing who this w.e. Any good match ups?
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26-10-07, 08:33
Who is playing who this w.e. Any good match ups?
Marc Roetller taking on the entire U/18 competition and beating them hands down? Read about it here on Monday! Will Cris Riches run something besides a full court press the entire game (even when it's being shredded)? Need a match report. Will the twins continue their dominance of the comp and carrying the entire Districts team on their shoulders? Cant see it changing.
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26-10-07, 12:56
Doubt the twins from Districts will dominate this week at Logan against Jessie, Mitch & co.
Districts would need to improve on last weeks performance to beat Logan at Cornubia.
And for South West, Mark will always dominate as he is their best player by far (good candidate for state captain).
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26-10-07, 16:10
the kid has played 1 good game an all of a sudden he is state captain? surly there are better candidates for this position........
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26-10-07, 17:10
Logan to defeat Districts by 12.
Maroochydore to defeat Runaway Bay by 60+.
BBI to defeat BBI Silver by 50+.
SWM to defeat Gold Coast by 14.
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26-10-07, 19:03
the kid has played 1 good game an all of a sudden he is state captain? surly there are better candidates for this position........
Dont worry about it mate. The writer of this weekly drivel is merely throwing kerosene on a flame for a bit of "fun" because they know that serious basketball people who know anything about the game will be so offended by their incessant bullshit that they will get a reaction. It's sort of like they are trying to make people say something that can be construed as "personal" against the kid and then they can ride the sympathy vote and/or pull some sort of political stunt to get the kid into a team which he isnt good enough to make by any other means.
Roteller is a good little player alright...at SEQ Premier League level. He may even be 11/12/13/14 on a State team (behind at least 3 other guards who are better than him.) Between now and when the team travels he MAY even learn to play defence (on and off ball as well as intimidating the passing lanes and being able to provide help as well as recover) If this were to happen and he developed a sense of 'time and score' (tempo), learned to read the floor and all 9 other players and their positioning on the mosaic at any given instant and learned the art of making all his teammates better, THEN he may even qualify to be the 3rd or 4th guard behind at least 2, but realistically 3-4 others who already exhibit these skills and have done so at various levels for some time.
Dont worry about the "baiter" who keeps dishing up this tripe every week, he's obviously getting some cheap larfs for himself and doesnt care that some people are actually taking him seriously. Of course if it's Marc Roteller's Mum then alls forgiven and totally understand! Your son is anything you want to imagine he is Mrs. Rotteller.
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26-10-07, 19:19
Logan to defeat Districts by 12.
Maroochydore to defeat Runaway Bay by 60+.
BBI to defeat BBI Silver by 50+.
SWM to defeat Gold Coast by 14.
If coach Riches lets his boys play basketball (and plays something other than a half arsed full court press the entire game!) the Gold Coast have the horses and ability to wipe SWM. (Marc "Jordan" Rotteler or not!) Coast too big, too quick and too mobile for the runcorn mob...IF they get to play their natural game.
Logan are bloody good this year...but I'm not sure they are 12 points better than Districts. (Logan at Cornubia are a tough prospect. They are the only ones it seems who can achieve any perimeter percentage with no depth of field in all that open space to judge your shooting distance by. Used to be the local refs would get a bit excited about the need for a "home" victory also but Tang's got that little embarrasment sorted this year it seems.) Logan are a very tough team and wont "go away" all night. Districts are a bit more polished but and if they stay within reach should have the "class" to pull out the necessary plays to claim a 1 or 2 pt victory in the closing seconds. Will be a clanger of a match.
Brisbane #1 should be beating Ipswich, Toowoomba, Jimboomba or ANY team from another association (even a developing one) and NOT one from their own association while others missout on Premier League. Anyway Struddies boys might pull an upset and roll the number 1 side....but I dont think so.
The way Maroochydore are playing dont be surprised to see Runaway bay come away with the W in this one. Played terribly last week at Gold Coast.
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26-10-07, 20:32
THEN he may even qualify to be the 3rd or 4th guard behind at least 2, but realistically 3-4 others who already exhibit these skills and have done so at various levels for some time.
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so who are these guards that would wipe marc!!!seriously doubt that
Roit. I'm back from my "self imposed" sin binning for getting sucked into some of the negative, political crap that gets thrown around here on occaision. :banghead: I have renewed my pledge to stay positive. :eye-popping:
Soooooo ..... tips.
I'm going back to my 15 point margins for simplicity.
Logan over Districts by under 15.
BBI over the little brothers by 15+
Maroochy over Bay by a swag.
And.... of course... Waves over SW by Under 15.
Logan v Districts is potentially the game of the round and I am looking forward to a balanced report of what transpires there.
The Coast are expecting a toughie in the late night "Rumble at Runcorn" If I was pressed into a precise margin, I'd go Coasties by 4.
Good luck to all.
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26-10-07, 21:27
Dont worry about it mate. The writer of this weekly drivel is merely throwing kerosene on a flame for a bit of "fun" because they know that serious basketball people who know anything about the game will be so offended by their incessant bullshit that they will get a reaction. It's sort of like they are trying to make people say something that can be construed as "personal" against the kid and then they can ride the sympathy vote and/or pull some sort of political stunt to get the kid into a team which he isnt good enough to make by any other means.
Roteller is a good little player alright...at SEQ Premier League level. He may even be 11/12/13/14 on a State team (behind at least 3 other guards who are better than him.) Between now and when the team travels he MAY even learn to play defence (on and off ball as well as intimidating the passing lanes and being able to provide help as well as recover) If this were to happen and he developed a sense of 'time and score' (tempo), learned to read the floor and all 9 other players and their positioning on the mosaic at any given instant and learned the art of making all his teammates better, THEN he may even qualify to be the 3rd or 4th guard behind at least 2, but realistically 3-4 others who already exhibit these skills and have done so at various levels for some time.
Dont worry about the "baiter" who keeps dishing up this tripe every week, he's obviously getting some cheap larfs for himself and doesnt care that some people are actually taking him seriously. Of course if it's Marc Roteller's Mum then alls forgiven and totally understand! Your son is anything you want to imagine he is Mrs. Rotteller.
hahahaha clearly you play for a different association from south west, probably maroochy by the sounds of it. the kid is a good player, he has potential to make the state team. why can't that be enough for you people? its a god damn game, and because someone says that another guy is good u simply can't believe it and must think that they're either crazy or related to them. but why does it sound familiar? oh thats right, cos it happened to the semerad boys, to jessie hilleray....guess rotteler was just next in line. get back to premier league and let the boys play.
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27-10-07, 01:17
THEN he may even qualify to be the 3rd or 4th guard behind at least 2, but realistically 3-4 others who already exhibit these skills and have done so at various levels for some time.
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so who are these guards that would wipe marc!!!seriously doubt that
Perhaps if you waited until he's played more than 2 teams before you start crowning him State captain and the like you will learn the identities and see who the make up of the State team will be. (Somehow think your so one eyed and lacking in basketball knowledge however that you wouldn't see anything other than what you want to believe). Just hoping the poor kid can walk the walk you been talkin' for him and isnt embarrassed when he faces better competition. You really saying he's better in the 2 spot than Jessie Hilleary whose had 30+ pts p.g. and double figure rebounds both times?? (I've actually heard he struggled somewhat against Districts where his team was comfortably beaten. Whats the truth behind that?)
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27-10-07, 01:38
Roit. I'm back from my "self imposed" sin binning for getting sucked into some of the negative, political crap that gets thrown around here on occaision. :banghead: I have renewed my pledge to stay positive. :eye-popping:
Soooooo ..... tips.
I'm going back to my 15 point margins for simplicity.
Logan over Districts by under 15.
BBI over the little brothers by 15+
Maroochy over Bay by a swag.
And.... of course... Waves over SW by Under 15.
Logan v Districts is potentially the game of the round and I am looking forward to a balanced report of what transpires there.
The Coast are expecting a toughie in the late night "Rumble at Runcorn" If I was pressed into a precise margin, I'd go Coasties by 4.
Good luck to all.
No need for the sin bin Emu. You just chucked a bit of shit back whence it was coming at you and no harm done IMHO.
Always hard to beat SWM at Runcorn but even so Gold Coast have the goods on this particular team of Sunnybankers. Would use a little variety in my defences if I was coaching GC and definately use my interior superiority and athleticism to dictate the style and place my offence is played out as I dont think SWM can defend you. Size wont always win the day but you could be fairly confident it will in this prticular instance. Is this Roteller kid really good enough to be the State Captain? Bloody big call when there's guards like Jessie Hilleary, Mick Gulotta, Mitch McCarron and Isiah Tueta all playing real good ball?! Hopefully we can get an informative match report on the game. Coast by 12-15 pts. (Too big, too committed, too organised through the guards.)
Logan and Districts will be a clanger though I feel Districts may just be a bit too "polished" and experienced for Logan's raw power and slip under the radar for a last minute but well planned win. That being said Jessie Hilleary could come out and bathe the dark side in the blinding white light of successive 3 point bombs from as deep behind the arc as he feels would be fun for the night. This one to be played out either scenario I reckon and be the game of the round for mine.
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27-10-07, 23:34
No need for the sin bin Emu. You just chucked a bit of shit back whence it was coming at you and no harm done IMHO.
Always hard to beat SWM at Runcorn but even so Gold Coast have the goods on this particular team of Sunnybankers. Would use a little variety in my defences if I was coaching GC and definately use my interior superiority and athleticism to dictate the style and place my offence is played out as I dont think SWM can defend you. Size wont always win the day but you could be fairly confident it will in this prticular instance. Is this Roteller kid really good enough to be the State Captain? Bloody big call when there's guards like Jessie Hilleary, Mick Gulotta, Mitch McCarron and Isiah Tueta all playing real good ball?! Hopefully we can get an informative match report on the game. Coast by 12-15 pts. (Too big, too committed, too organised through the guards.)
Logan and Districts will be a clanger though I feel Districts may just be a bit too "polished" and experienced for Logan's raw power and slip under the radar for a last minute but well planned win. That being said Jessie Hilleary could come out and bathe the dark side in the blinding white light of successive 3 point bombs from as deep behind the arc as he feels would be fun for the night. This one to be played out either scenario I reckon and be the game of the round for mine.
Looks like it was right about Districts being too 'polished' for Logan but no close contest at all. Must have successfully shut Hilleary down (10pts is a good containment job on this kid)
Dying to know what happened between coach Riches, Gold Coast dynamoes and Sid Mines and the one man state team, Marc Rotteler...sorry SWM. Anyone got a decent match breakdown in precis, with a minimum of the hard sell on young Marc? Emu?
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27-10-07, 23:59
Under 18 boys was close for the first quarter then Districts always in control cruising to a 19 point win.
Hillary contained well by Willis in first half before getting a couple of questionable fouls. Andy Chen did not enter the game until the final quarter after arriving late to the game.
Districts bottom aged kids getting better each weekand stsrting to contribute well.
Solid team effort with districts stronger guards the big difference on the night.
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28-10-07, 00:15
Brissy 1 seemed to struggle to extend a lead over the 2nd team...but easily cruised to a 30 point win...never in doubt wight from the opening 5 minutes....What happened in the other games?? please let us know. cheers
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28-10-07, 18:09
A very ragged affair played like an episode of JackAss at times, punctuated by some spectacular shot blocking, (Nic Grant on Lachie Miller then a monster by Torben Pelicaan on the Bay big guy), but more notable for sloppy defense and overdribbling by both sides. Maroochydore stayed in their stock standard half court 'man' D all night even though Bay were pressing them with a few change up D's at various times. Greg Chadwick has the Bay boys going OK and they will be better players at the end of the season than when they started. M'Dore got a scoring break late 1st quarter which gave them a comfortable margin which they just defended all night, playing their bottom agers in a variety of combinations with the senior kids. Maroochydore by about 20+.
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28-10-07, 18:26
what went down? who got cut? who got through?
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28-10-07, 20:06
maroochy actually won by 38 points. still a very scrappy game, and the result was no suprise.
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28-10-07, 20:25
does anyone no anything about state trials today and whether gold coast beat swm
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28-10-07, 20:59
does anyone no anything about state trials today and whether gold coast beat swm
yer sw beat gold coast
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28-10-07, 21:27
yer sw beat gold coast
Whathe'...!?
OK then...How did it happen?
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28-10-07, 21:30
maroochy actually won by 38 points. still a very scrappy game, and the result was no suprise.
Damn! Looks like that stats crazy sabateur is running loose again...
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29-10-07, 20:36
I'd love to hear what happened that Gold Coast lost to SWM. I just couldnt see it happening with the playing talent Coast has and the excellent facilities and school programs situation down there as well as being coached by the current State Coach. Maybe Marc Rotteler really is a superstar as good as all thats written here about him. Did Walsh even play? Was Gulotta on his game? Who else does SWM have?
Can anyone give us the rundown of what the respective teams did and who were the 'money' players? Emu?...or are you still too shocked (like me) to write about it? Was it even close?? Whats the go??!
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29-10-07, 21:16
Whathe'...!?
OK then...How did it happen?
does any one no any stand out players for the weekend did runaway bay play well considering they were expected to get smashed who plays for the runaway team any known players anyone no the startin 5
thanks micheal
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29-10-07, 21:33
does any one no any stand out players for the weekend did runaway bay play well considering they were expected to get smashed who plays for the runaway team any known players anyone no the startin 5
thanks micheal
Yeh they have a half decent guard who has a deadly pull up jumper (goes off either hand). He's their organiser and is reasonably good under extended pressure getting to the vulnerable areas of a press. They have a lanky sort of kid, pretty tall, who can play back to the basket a little bit and gets a lot of rebound put backs by sliding in on the weak side. They also have Nicholas Grant, a solid reasonably tall kid who has no fear of anything and just goes hard after every ball and rebound. Plays tough but fair defence and works hard without the ball to create scoring opportunities and stretch defences.
That's about all I can remember at this stage.
OK OK
The sparrows in the rafters at Runcorn have passed on the following assessment.
The Coast started very slowly and were down by about 10 or 12 within a couple of minutes. SW started very hungry and were after it while the Coasties looked like they had already played two games of ball, which apparently the 5 or 6 TSS boys had!
The Coast settled and reeled em in to be pretty close at half time. Coach Riches sung a gentle lullaby at the half time break and put them all back to sleep. :D So they fell behind pretty quickly in the third quarter and then played catch up. The Coasties managed to get within a couple in the last, showing glimpses of how they will look on a more consistant basis before the season is out. They finished down by 9.
The consensus amongst the GC spectators was that Rotteler IS a freak! (In the nicest sense of the word) but that it was by no means a "one man show". SW played well as a team and out hussled the Coast.
From a GC point of view, they seemed to gel a little better than last week against Maroochydore at times. "If ya don't box out, ya don't win!" When they ran their stuff it seemed to work. I think Coach Riches will get them where they need to be incrementally.(let me see.... is there a spell check on this system...)
Congrats to SW, a deserved win from all reports. It just reinforces what a great season we still have ahead of us.
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30-10-07, 23:12
OK OK
The sparrows in the rafters at Runcorn have passed on the following assessment.
The Coast started very slowly and were down by about 10 or 12 within a couple of minutes. SW started very hungry and were after it while the Coasties looked like they had already played two games of ball, which apparently the 5 or 6 TSS boys had!
The Coast settled and reeled em in to be pretty close at half time. Coach Riches sung a gentle lullaby at the half time break and put them all back to sleep. :D So they fell behind pretty quickly in the third quarter and then played catch up. The Coasties managed to get within a couple in the last, showing glimpses of how they will look on a more consistant basis before the season is out. They finished down by 9.
The consensus amongst the GC spectators was that Rotteler IS a freak! (In the nicest sense of the word) but that it was by no means a "one man show". SW played well as a team and out hussled the Coast.
From a GC point of view, they seemed to gel a little better than last week against Maroochydore at times. "If ya don't box out, ya don't win!" When they ran their stuff it seemed to work. I think Coach Riches will get them where they need to be incrementally.(let me see.... is there a spell check on this system...)
Congrats to SW, a deserved win from all reports. It just reinforces what a great season we still have ahead of us.
Thanks for that Emu. Bit worrying that SWM are in fact NOT a one man band. (Have a plan for the containment of one superstar guard however it becomes a problem when there's three or more who can play) I honestly thought from the grading tournament that SWM would not have the size to compete with you guys (?!) (Always exciting when we are wrong!)
Getting into a scrappy game with the SWM monsters, especially on their home court, has never been a great career move either. They will scrap hard in their home environment and if the game is reduced to a scrapping contest, SWM will usually win. Seems Districts have the key there. Interesting times ahead.
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30-10-07, 23:50
Does any1 know if maroochy still has that tall aden fellow..and if hes still in good form???
Same goes for damon from townsville?? heard he windmilled from the block in a club game..isnt he only short? if thats true then i cant wait 2 c him play...
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31-10-07, 12:24
SW V GOLD COAST. Basically sw have more depth good discipline better players and a better coach than gold coast. Gold coast are way overrated and lucky they had Aiden or it would have been a whitewash
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31-10-07, 16:16
SW V GOLD COAST. Basically sw have more depth good discipline better players and a better coach than gold coast. Gold coast are way overrated and lucky they had Aiden or it would have been a whitewash
But isnt the Gold Coast coach been selected to coach the Queensland team? Surely he's the best coach of all of them??
Does any1 know if maroochy still has that tall aden fellow..and if hes still in good form???
Same goes for damon from townsville?? heard he windmilled from the block in a club game..isnt he only short? if thats true then i cant wait 2 c him play...
Who cares about aidan he lost his form and doesnt dominate anymore. He does a few good things every now and then but nothing 2 spectacular, and Damon is on the verge of being signed with the Crocs i hear. Dont know if the thing about the windmill is true or not but i hear he's playing at the peak of his performance. He doesnt have much height to him but he's fairly strong.
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01-11-07, 10:37
Who cares about aidan he lost his form and doesnt dominate anymore. He does a few good things every now and then but nothing 2 spectacular, and Damon is on the verge of being signed with the Crocs i hear. Dont know if the thing about the windmill is true or not but i hear he's playing at the peak of his performance. He doesnt have much height to him but he's fairly strong.
Pretty impressive to windmill anytime but especially from the block. Can Damon shoot the pull up jumper or catch and shoot off an off-ball screen? Just wondering if he can play defence at all? Suppose he must be able to if the Crocs have signed him. Will he be playing for Townsville at the Classics? There's a kid playing for Maroochydore who can do all sorts of crazy dunks too. Like, he can REALLY leap. He has to duck his head all the time to keep from wiping out on the ring. Great to watch.
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01-11-07, 10:42
Who cares about aidan he lost his form and doesnt dominate anymore. He does a few good things every now and then but nothing 2 spectacular, and Damon is on the verge of being signed with the Crocs i hear. Dont know if the thing about the windmill is true or not but i hear he's playing at the peak of his performance. He doesnt have much height to him but he's fairly strong.
Aden walsh is simply playing a different role and to a different set of instructions from a different coach. Part of why he's such a valuable player is the fact he is o coachable and will do whatever his coach tells him, regardless of whether it's going to cause the fans to think he's lost his game and cant play. Sad times for the rest of the competition and whoever tries to guard him however if he gets "let off his chain" and just goes and attacks the rim like he can.
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01-11-07, 11:54
Those Maroochydore kids are that good they may as well give them their classics medals now and everyone else can stay at home and save their parents some money!
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01-11-07, 14:33
Those Maroochydore kids are that good they may as well give them their classics medals now and everyone else can stay at home and save their parents some money!
Nah...Aden doesnt play for Maroochydore anymore. He's with the best coach in Queensland down the Gold Coast so Maroochydore dont have a chance against Andy Chen from Districts and Marc Rotteller from SWM. They know they are no good too and that's why they are talking themselves up on Bendoes. I heard the Maroochydore guys looked like Div II kids at state trials on Sunday and even the bottom agers from Gold Coast will make the team before them.
State team
Andy Chen (C)
Marc Rotteler (VC)
Scott Willis
Johnathon Mines
Anthony Semerand
Other Semerand
Tom Laycock
Aden walsh
Big from Gold Coast
Jessie Franklin
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01-11-07, 15:49
Doubt that districts will get that many in the team. They aren't that dominant in this years competition.
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01-11-07, 15:56
Doubt that districts will get that many in the team. They aren't that dominant in this years competition.
I dont know about that! Last time I looked we were 3 from 3 and will be 4 from 4 after smashing Maroochyore this weekend. Will show the contenders from the pretenders when Andy and Scott, Anthony, David and Tom dominate Maroochydore. 3 from 3 is better than anybody else.
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01-11-07, 16:28
I dont know about that! Last time I looked we were 3 from 3 and will be 4 from 4 after smashing Maroochyore this weekend. Will show the contenders from the pretenders when Andy and Scott, Anthony, David and Tom dominate Maroochydore. 3 from 3 is better than anybody else.
Pretty sure maroochydore is 3 from 3 too.
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01-11-07, 16:36
Nah...Aden doesnt play for Maroochydore anymore. He's with the best coach in Queensland down the Gold Coast so Maroochydore dont have a chance against Andy Chen from Districts and Marc Rotteller from SWM. They know they are no good too and that's why they are talking themselves up on Bendoes. I heard the Maroochydore guys looked like Div II kids at state trials on Sunday and even the bottom agers from Gold Coast will make the team before them.
State team
Andy Chen (C)
Marc Rotteler (VC)
Scott Willis
Johnathon Mines
Anthony Semerand
Other Semerand
Tom Laycock
Aden walsh
Big from Gold Coast
Jessie Franklin
You obviously have no clue...jesse franklin didn't trial, neither would he make the team if he did. Andy Chen won't be captain...good chance of making it...but won't be captain. Also the big from gold coast didn't trial either...
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01-11-07, 17:44
You obviously have no clue...jesse franklin didn't trial, neither would he make the team if he did. Andy Chen won't be captain...good chance of making it...but won't be captain. Also the big from gold coast didn't trial either...
And you have so many clues that you must be Cris Riches. How else could you say who would and who wouldnt make the team and who will and wont be Captain? Last time I heard, State Coaches get in big trouble for going on BenDoes and talking about their teams.(Dont think you have a clue about basketball and what goes on at an 18's Nationals anyway if you say Andy Chen would make the team.) Always amazes me the number of so called experts who come out of the wood work around State team time sprouting their extensive knowledge about this player and that player. Pray tell, just how and where would you use a super small guard who has no ability to see and connect with lane runners in the open court, no penetration ability unless its head down and playing for the foul and has no percentage to his shot when beyond the 15 ft range? Is he really going to be able to do the job that a Jessie Hilleary, Marc Rotteler, Isiah Tueta, Mick Gulotta, James Mueller, Mitch Pleysier or about half a dozen others can do? I know he went away in 16's and may be a sentimental favourite of the coach but times move on and the 18's two years later is a whole different ball game to Andy's last State team performance (which was decidedly sub standard anyway after the 2nd game when he broke down rumour has it.) Anycase just keep picking and propogating.
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01-11-07, 20:12
Very doubtful that districts will beat maroochydore this weekend.
I predict that th beach boys will dominate from start to finish and win by 20+.
Disticts over rated and not as strong as recent times.
Saturday night will sort the pretenders from the contenders.
Maroochydore Coach
01-11-07, 23:36
Very doubtful that districts will beat maroochydore this weekend.
I predict that th beach boys will dominate from start to finish and win by 20+.
Disticts over rated and not as strong as recent times.
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Really hoping your right old mate. Thanking you for your good wishes and confidence in our abilities.
I dont know about that! Last time I looked we were 3 from 3 and will be 4 from 4 after smashing Maroochyore this weekend. Will show the contenders from the pretenders when Andy and Scott, Anthony, David and Tom dominate Maroochydore. 3 from 3 is better than anybody else.
Very doubtful that districts will beat maroochydore this weekend.
I predict that th beach boys will dominate from start to finish and win by 20+.
Disticts over rated and not as strong as recent times.
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Really hoping your right old mate. Thanking you for your good wishes and confidence in our abilities.
Maroochy coach, does your team read this board? The only reason I ask this is I can't understand why you would right both posts quoted here. Motivation by internet? Surely when your team is that good you don't need to play games...
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02-11-07, 09:59
Maroochy coach, does your team read this board? The only reason I ask this is I can't understand why you would right both posts quoted here. Motivation by internet? Surely when your team is that good you don't need to play games...
Thats not the only reason you ask this "Fly". I would venture that its because your a very "strange" archetype for an Association President and one with too much time on his hands and mischief on his mind. I could be wrong of course...But we've just been trying to 'out' the person whose been writing on here, unregistered, making boastful claims, and purporting to be part of the Maroochydore team. So it appears the "super moderator" isnt so ethical as to use his nom de plume on every occasion he graces the board with his literary wit and wisdom? As I have said a number of times before today, (in response to the "mystery" individual that keeps writing boastful posts as if they are insiders), just how good our team is remains to be seen and we will only know the answer to that at seasons end. Until then, the only game we will play, (as we have done all long) is our brand of basketball.
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02-11-07, 13:51
I agree with previous post. Fly is nothing more then a power driven nazi who sits and trys to act as a copper when we all know if not for his wife he would be nothing at all in basketball.The fact that he outs people using names when it suits suggests he is the main player of mind games. Go get a life Fly or should we say ....... HAVE A LOOK AT YOUR RECORD
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03-11-07, 10:55
Really hoping your right old mate. Thanking you for your good wishes and confidence in our abilities.
How come the top of the round game gets court 3 at Carina? Maroochydore boys are talking about playing Districts on the old outside courts for the return game.
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03-11-07, 11:24
How come the top of the round game gets court 3 at Carina? Maroochydore boys are talking about playing Districts on the old outside courts for the return game.
Brisbane vs districts was played on court 3...and no an outdoor court would never be allowed...stop dreaming.
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03-11-07, 11:30
biggame tonight aswell as mdore and spartans with swm coming to brissie to play bbi should be a good game 6:00 be there . few interesting matchup in that game mcarron vs roettler should be a good one . will south west be able to stop matty hogson??
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03-11-07, 11:38
biggame tonight aswell as mdore and spartans with swm coming to brissie to play bbi should be a good game 6:00 be there . few interesting matchup in that game mcarron vs roettler should be a good one . will south west be able to stop matty hogson??
Yeh, will be a pretty good game. What time? Wouldnt mind trying to catch some of it. (A smart coach would have someone there to do some video scouting for him!) On paper Roteller should have that extra size and years experience on young Mitch however if Brisbane can get the ball entered SWM dont really have the size to stop Hodgson. Could be a long night for Hodgson however if he's expected to carry the whole team on his relativley inexperienced shoulders. Before last weeks win over Gold Coast I would have predicted SWM to lose to BBI in this one, however after they beat Logan and GC maybe SWM can beat everyone in this league.
Emu's tips.
A series of excellent matchups this weekend.
Bay v Silver. I'll go the Bay by 15 plus.
Spartans v Maroochy. Bin impressed with the Northern Surfers. Maroochy by under 15 in a tough game.
Brizzos v South Westies. Another good game. I think SW's guards may have a slight edge. Brisbane's big may have a slight edge. mmmmm...... lets see...... SW by a couple. :confused:
Waves v Logan. Geez the difficult picks keep coming!! You know I'll have to go the Coasties but this will be a toughie. Jordan, Taylor and the Ogre v Aden, Jayden, Nic Seton should be spectacular.
Adam C and Jesse v Richie and his mate should be interesting. I'll pick the Waves bench to be the slight difference. Coasties by 3.
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03-11-07, 16:08
BBI v SWM will be tough. South West with more top aged players should get the win by <15 points.
Logan v Gold Coast should see Logan win by <15 points with Jessie too big and too strong for the coast boys.
Districts v Maroochydore will probably be won by the guards on the night that perform the best. Izzy & co to continue on their winning streak and win by >15 points.
Just flew in.... actually ran in from Tallebudgera. I must say my pick for this game was spot on. Coast got up by 5 in a "Cracker" of a game. The score was 74-71 for most of the last 90 seconds of the game and if it wasn't for J-Rod McCarthy reversing a spectacular lay up with 1 second to go my margin would have been spot on! :D
The Logan guards were strong with Ethan, Jesse and Rick M making big contributions. Mitchel V was very hard to stop around the paint and "Oh my Gosh" Josh O was a revelation. Sky hooking, fade away J's, spin moves and reliable as ever from the Charity Stripe. :eye-popping:
For the Coast, Aden and Jayden stood out. Gullotta and Creighton were the best of the guards with DC causing a bit of havoc. The bottom age guards (The J's) off the bench were prolly the difference tonight all making strong contributions covering their respective positions. J-Rod hussled all night and hit some nice jumpers, Jesse ran the point well, played solid "in ya face D" and contributed with a clutch 3 and a couple of solid drives at the hoop. Josh "The Boss" Blank had his game of the season playing lightning quick D and putting up 9 points including a sweet 3. He even showed off his trade mark spin move. :hifive:
Overall a great game with an awesome result for this Coastal Bird. :bravo:
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03-11-07, 21:58
sd got up by 9, marrochy flew outta the blocks but then spartans got them back and maintainded a 8-12pt lead the whole game.. scott willis standout for me
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03-11-07, 22:24
what happened in the bris sw game???
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03-11-07, 23:19
what happened in the bris sw game???
rottler injured, refs grilled south west as always. brisbane boys did play good game though, came out ready to play and deserved the win.
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03-11-07, 23:30
what happened in the bris sw game???
Well...lets just say a totally unexpected result. I personally believed that south west would win by a few in a tough game...but was i wrong! Brissy started a 16-2 run..absolutly owning the boards...and owning the fast break game. South west never looked in control (especially when syd was pulling players over to talk to them while they were on defense!!!) Standouts for brissy were mitch mccarron (who in my opinion won the matchup vs marc rotteler..even though they didnt guard each other...he played much better) as well as a good game from Luke Mckewan, luke ahrens and denzel montford. For south west ryan vines played well along with some help from john mines.
Love to hear someone else's game report!
cheers.
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04-11-07, 05:19
Maroochydore came out with great intensity and got out to a 10 point lead in the first quarter. Districts were able to peg it back to 49 all at half time and then pushed out to a 10-12 point lead for most of the second half eventually winning by 8.
Scott the stand out for Districts directing his team to a good solid win without any panic when they were behind and shooting the ball really well. Anthony and David Semerad the next best (as usual) with their bench contributing well.
Izzy was probably the best for Maroochydore on the night (definately out played Andy on the night). I would think the Maroochydore coaching staff would of been quite pleased with their peformance last night will a long way to go before classics they are still looking good.
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04-11-07, 06:31
Well...lets just say a totally unexpected result. I personally believed that south west would win by a few in a tough game...but was i wrong! Brissy started a 16-2 run..absolutly owning the boards...and owning the fast break game. South west never looked in control (especially when syd was pulling players over to talk to them while they were on defense!!!) Standouts for brissy were mitch mccarron (who in my opinion won the matchup vs marc rotteler..even though they didnt guard each other...he played much better) as well as a good game from Luke Mckewan, luke ahrens and denzel montford. For south west ryan vines played well along with some help from john mines.
Love to hear someone else's game report!
cheers.
how can u say mitch mccarron won the match up when he didn't defend rottler or vice-versa the entire game? rottler was inside the key the whole game getting hammered from all sides, no calls from brissy refs though. typical i guess.
Brisbane Capitals
04-11-07, 07:08
how can u say mitch mccarron won the match up when he didn't defend rottler or vice-versa the entire game? rottler was inside the key the whole game getting hammered from all sides, no calls from brissy refs though. typical i guess.
Mate you guys lost by 32!! Good on ya, blame the refs.
SWM people bagging another assocaitions officials, thats RICH!!!
You got NO credability at all "guest". Just maybe the better team won on the night??? I mean it was only a tight 30 point loss. Sure, a couple of dozen calls go the other way, and you guys could have gotten up!!! Go back to the Circus Clown!!
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04-11-07, 07:45
Mate you guys lost by 32!! Good on ya, blame the refs.
SWM people bagging another assocaitions officials, thats RICH!!!
You got NO credability at all "guest". Just maybe the better team won on the night??? I mean it was only a tight 30 point loss. Sure, a couple of dozen calls go the other way, and you guys could have gotten up!!! Go back to the Circus Clown!!
fine, u don't need to admit that the reffing was bad. but still, just wanted to know how the other guy could say mitch mccarron beat rottler? they didn't match up once!
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04-11-07, 14:33
fine, u don't need to admit that the reffing was bad. but still, just wanted to know how the other guy could say mitch mccarron beat rottler? they didn't match up once!
The writer said that buddy! He said they didnt match up and then said he thought Mitch outplayed Marc in his opinion. For Pete's sake mate, get over this obsession with Marc Rotteler. Unless the writer is Marc himself or his Mum (and I dont dare for a minute consider it would be!) then Marc himself must be starting to feel embarrassed, maybe even 'creeped out' by this attention every week. Look at it objectively. Mitch McCarron, in his role as PG, steered his team to a 32 point win. Marc Rotteler, in his role as team captain/organising guard/alleged superstar, failed to stop this happening. (On this occasion)
Objective basketball people fore saw the likelihood of SWM being too small to contain/control the bigger Brisbane side and said so right here. The same prediction was made against Gold Coast the week before. (Gold Coast apparently didnt play to that strength for whatever reason?) Please dont do a write up on here that detracts from the smart play/coaching of the BBI outfit and blames referees for a 32 point loss. (I love that habit of Sid's where he calls his players over while the game is in progress! Too cool!)
But please dont for a second EVER have a SWM supporter complaining about "home town" refereeing!! Have had the most disgraceful display of home court cheating ever at good old Runcorn and that was a game round finals time decided by 6 points based on the calls made by one ref in the last 2 minutes, not a first round fixture decided by 32 points! Please SWM give it a rest will ya?! Good job, young McCarron and the Brissos.
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04-11-07, 14:41
BBI v SWM will be tough. South West with more top aged players should get the win by <15 points.
Logan v Gold Coast should see Logan win by <15 points with Jessie too big and too strong for the coast boys.
Districts v Maroochydore will probably be won by the guards on the night that perform the best. Izzy & co to continue on their winning streak and win by >15 points.
Good darts and close competition!!
All the "favourites" got rolled this week...(though I could never see how Maroochydore were favourites over Districts.) Good on Brisbane for playing to the obvious weakness and good on Gold Coast for whatever you did to beat Logan. Who guarded Hilleary? Districts won but it wasnt because of the "best performing guards". Izzy the best on floor, Scott Willis the best, freakish shooting display seen in a while. Man, the guy had "touch" last night! Saw Hilleary do something similar a few weeks ago. Well done all the winners.
Curious spectator
04-11-07, 14:57
Hey guys, just wondering for the people who were at the game or palying in the game if they knew why brisbane weren't allowed to dunk during warm up??
Im not paying out on the refs here, im sure there was a good reason as to why but i just notcied some south west guys jamming it, yet the brisbane guys such as matt hodgeson, corban wroe and mitch mccarron were allowed to slam.
As i said not trying to complain just wondering why.
thanks.
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04-11-07, 14:58
Hey guys, just wondering for the people who were at the game or palying in the game if they knew why brisbane weren't allowed to dunk during warm up??
Im not paying out on the refs here, im sure there was a good reason as to why but i just notcied some south west guys jamming it, yet the brisbane guys such as matt hodgeson, corban wroe and mitch mccarron were allowed to slam.
As i said not trying to complain just wondering why.
thanks.
Sorry i meant the brisbane guys were'nt allowed to slam.
Maroochydore Coach
04-11-07, 15:32
Just flew in.... actually ran in from Tallebudgera. I must say my pick for this game was spot on. Coast got up by 5 in a "Cracker" of a game. The score was 74-71 for most of the last 90 seconds of the game and if it wasn't for J-Rod McCarthy reversing a spectacular lay up with 1 second to go my margin would have been spot on! :D
The Logan guards were strong with Ethan, Jesse and Rick M making big contributions. Mitchel V was very hard to stop around the paint and "Oh my Gosh" Josh O was a revelation. Sky hooking, fade away J's, spin moves and reliable as ever from the Charity Stripe. :eye-popping:
For the Coast, Aden and Jayden stood out. Gullotta and Creighton were the best of the guards with DC causing a bit of havoc. The bottom age guards (The J's) off the bench were prolly the difference tonight all making strong contributions covering their respective positions. J-Rod hussled all night and hit some nice jumpers, Jesse ran the point well, played solid "in ya face D" and contributed with a clutch 3 and a couple of solid drives at the hoop. Josh "The Boss" Blank had his game of the season playing lightning quick D and putting up 9 points including a sweet 3. He even showed off his trade mark spin move. :hifive:
Overall a great game with an awesome result for this Coastal Bird. :bravo:
Went looking for your precis first Emu. Always entertaining and I'm slowly learning the names of the GC kids we play against. (The names are a bit "in house" at times but and I'm still confused...which guard is DC?) Main thing I couldnt find however was much reference to Jessie Hilleary and most importantly, just who guarded him. Apart from playing to your offensive strengths I would think a key component to beating Logan would need to be a containment/shut down job on Jessie. Interested to know who took that role or did you do the "team/double D" thing with him?
Anyhow great result for Aden, Mick, Adam, Jessie and the boys, their confidence, and sure keeps the comp interesting.
(p.s. thats me on here before, just to deny Fly the cyber-copper the thrill of "uncovering" a known I.P. address on his endless trollings. Must be good fun hey??!)
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04-11-07, 18:28
Quote:
Originally Posted by Curious spectator
Hey guys, just wondering for the people who were at the game or palying in the game if they knew why brisbane weren't allowed to dunk during warm up??
Im not paying out on the refs here, im sure there was a good reason as to why but i just notcied some south west guys jamming it, yet the brisbane guys such as matt hodgeson, corban wroe and mitch mccarron were allowed to slam.
As i said not trying to complain just wondering why.
thanks.
Sorry i meant the brisbane guys were'nt allowed to slam.
The Boys were'nt allowed to dunk because while warming up the backboard's hooks must have unlatched and it came down, so the refs said they wernt allowed to slam. which is unfortunate because matt, mitch and corban can all get up. does anyone know how tall corban and mitch are? jw
I hate to be a stickler for the rules. But in the BQ guidelines released to the teams before the season "Referees are to immediately technical foul any player who dunks or hangs off rings and the supports during warm ups. No warnings given."
Maroochydore Coach
04-11-07, 20:13
Very doubtful that districts will beat maroochydore this weekend.
I predict that th beach boys will dominate from start to finish and win by 20+.
Disticts over rated and not as strong as recent times.
Saturday night will sort the pretenders from the contenders.
So it would seem that who ever the 'pretender' is who wrote this, in fact knows nothing about what's happening inside the Maroochydore camp, despite writing stuff on here that makes it looks like they might. Point proven now and hopefully they have shrunk away to never associate themselves with us again.
I wrote after last weeks game against R Bay about "shivers" thinking about what Districts would do to "And1" type defence. Well, admittedly our D was a lot better after some hard work on it through the week but neither individually nor as a group did we have any answers to Scott Willis last night. The kid was on fire and capitalised fully off the perfect offensive raft provided by the twins and that No.11 who came off the bench and hit extremely high percentages from the lower block and high post.
We got the normal outstanding leadership and control from our court general Isiah Tueta, despite double and triple team pressure at times. Harry McDermott was awesome on the boards at both ends and gave us excellent transition with Turner and Miller sprinting the lanes and finishing hard to give us a nice little lead at quarter time. Somewhere 2nd quarter the foot came off the pedal defensively for us and a string of turnovers following the big bombs from Willis, the twins and No.11 took us to the break at 41 all and a whole new start to the ball game. Izzy, Harry, Jed, Lachie and at various times, one or two others chipping in kept it at least respectable as we weathered a scoring onslaught from the Spartans (while we attacked none too shabby ourselves!) during the third quarter, but just not good enough to overcome the dark side who took it out to an 11 point lead coming into the final quarter. Around this time we got some surprise releif in the form of rookie Josh Gadewski, who was the first of the night to have any success on the mission of stopping Willis from blowing us out of the game.
Noone on our side gave up at any time, (just played below their best in some cases), but Districts are too good a side to allow a lead like that late in the game and they consolidated well, managed their risk expertely and capitalised on the gambles that we had to take to try and peg back the lead in the closing minutes to run out deserved winners by 8 points. Some pretty good basketball on display from both sides I thought with Spartans dispelling any misconceptions that they are not as good as previous years and Maroochydore showing they will still be a threat when they are on their best game. But full credit to the Districts outfit who have done their homework, came to play and got it done. Special mention to the excellent refereeing of last nights fixture also. The game was officiated by Squawky and Mitch Vawdrey in a fast flowing style with the same levels of physicality that players experience at Nationals and higher level competition. The speed the game was allowed to be played at was such that complemented the athletic abilities of both squads and turned out an evenly and consistently called affair which provided a high degree of spectator entertainment. Well done officials, well done both teams, good work Spartans. Next time!
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04-11-07, 21:31
BBI v SWM will be tough. South West with more top aged players should get the win by <15 points.
Logan v Gold Coast should see Logan win by <15 points with Jessie too big and too strong for the coast boys.
Districts v Maroochydore will probably be won by the guards on the night that perform the best. Izzy & co to continue on their winning streak and win by >15 points.
ahah this guy got all three wrong spartan up by 9
brissie by 32
and goldie by a few(i dont know)
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04-11-07, 21:49
ahah this guy got all three wrong spartan up by 9
brissie by 32
and goldie by a few(i dont know)
Yuk it up laughing boy!
At least he had an opinion and got it out there. Up till last night his opinion was shared by a number of people who know this league. Some people must be desperate for laughs...
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05-11-07, 08:06
Quote:
Originally Posted by Curious spectator
Hey guys, just wondering for the people who were at the game or palying in the game if they knew why brisbane weren't allowed to dunk during warm up??
Im not paying out on the refs here, im sure there was a good reason as to why but i just notcied some south west guys jamming it, yet the brisbane guys such as matt hodgeson, corban wroe and mitch mccarron were allowed to slam.
As i said not trying to complain just wondering why.
thanks.
Sorry i meant the brisbane guys were'nt allowed to slam.
The Boys were'nt allowed to dunk because while warming up the backboard's hooks must have unlatched and it came down, so the refs said they wernt allowed to slam. which is unfortunate because matt, mitch and corban can all get up. does anyone know how tall corban and mitch are? jw
From what i know...corban wroe is 182/183 and mitch mccarron is 184/185.
Hope that helps. Also i'd just like to ask what is wrong with dunking...I thought the rule stated that you couldn't hang off the rings, or grab the ring without a ball...yet you could dunk it normally.
thanks.
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05-11-07, 09:48
From what i know...corban wroe is 182/183 and mitch mccarron is 184/185.
Hope that helps. Also i'd just like to ask what is wrong with dunking...I thought the rule stated that you couldn't hang off the rings, or grab the ring without a ball...yet you could dunk it normally.
thanks.
Yeh, whats the go there? Fair bit of dunking goin' down at Carina the other night and usually Big Al is red hot onto it. Nothing said but, just a lot of cheering, oohing and aarhing.
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05-11-07, 12:55
to be honest, maroochy came into the game way too arrogant... districts came out with nothing to loose and came out on top. I thought izzy played all over andy, getting to the hoop with ease. A strong performance by tom laycock, the twins and peter marinos. Willis lit it up with a great shooting display. Another good performance from big loky from m'dore
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05-11-07, 13:02
i think max vao is da man cuz he is ma friend he playes for redlands and i saw ur big ass on friday and dam u lost some weight u r inspiration to me and my friend rat who is da man i hear with alex .wez told me he scores 50 points each game i mean thats sinsational he dunks like little mike and james darrel is a giant mouther F****** who cant even leave the floor well keep u up dated
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05-11-07, 14:45
there is rumours that cairns marlins are the shit this year...
apperently they are ripping everyone up even in there Agrade league. also their is rumours that they are recieving 4 new players.
1. todd blanchfield (mackay)
2. Damon hueir (townsville)
3. Korey whitaker (South Australia)
4. Jordan Steinohrt ( Melbourne)
plus the usuals michael chitham, Geoff walsh, jEROMIE HILL and Kailou goerge.
they are the real team to beat at the classics this year.
stop talking shit about ur pathetic south boys comp....
the north runs this shit.
im out! xoxo
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05-11-07, 15:22
I hate to be a stickler for the rules. But in the BQ guidelines released to the teams before the season "Referees are to immediately technical foul any player who dunks or hangs off rings and the supports during warm ups. No warnings given."
i thought that didnt apply in under 18 or 20 any way i think its BS since when was a legal shot such as a dunk deemed a technical breech fair enough for hanging as its through all grades i guess it takes away fair initimidation
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05-11-07, 15:42
there is rumours that cairns marlins are the shit this year...
apperently they are ripping everyone up even in there Agrade league. also their is rumours that they are recieving 4 new players.
1. todd blanchfield (mackay)
2. Damon hueir (townsville)
3. Korey whitaker (South Australia)
4. Jordan Steinohrt ( Melbourne)
plus the usuals michael chitham, Geoff walsh, jEROMIE HILL and Kailou goerge.
they are the real team to beat at the classics this year.
stop talking shit about ur pathetic south boys comp....
the north runs this shit.
im out! xoxo
Yeh also add Michael Chitam and Jeromie Hill to that team...wow
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05-11-07, 15:48
there is rumours that cairns marlins are the shit this year...
apperently they are ripping everyone up even in there Agrade league. also their is rumours that they are recieving 4 new players.
1. todd blanchfield (mackay)
2. Damon hueir (townsville)
3. Korey whitaker (South Australia)
4. Jordan Steinohrt ( Melbourne)
plus the usuals michael chitham, Geoff walsh, jEROMIE HILL and Kailou goerge.
they are the real team to beat at the classics this year.
stop talking shit about ur pathetic south boys comp....
the north runs this shit.
im out! xoxo
Sounds like the North has the runs...at the mouth. Bring your gangsta talkin' crap to Townsville and see what happens mouth boy. Since you need to be callin' in help from Mackay, Townsville, Melbourne and Adelaide to give your sorry arses some hoops credibility you should call yourself something other than Cairns.
im out! xoxo
kisses and hugs from a gangsta? ... the streets aren't what they used to be....
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05-11-07, 16:55
Sounds like the North has the runs...at the mouth. Bring your gangsta talkin' crap to Townsville and see what happens mouth boy. Since you need to be callin' in help from Mackay, Townsville, Melbourne and Adelaide to give your sorry arses some hoops credibility you should call yourself something other than Cairns.
Actually they came because of the high rep coming from Cairns mate, bring your crap to Cairns and you'll get messed up, Saw style bitch
Cairns has the talent and from what has been goin on in pre season they have the drive determination to go far
Not a team to be over looked this season
i thought that didnt apply in under 18 or 20 any way i think its BS since when was a legal shot such as a dunk deemed a technical breech fair enough for hanging as its through all grades i guess it takes away fair initimidation
It's nothing to do with intimidation - it's all about public liability & ensuring the equipment doesn't get damaged before the game begins.
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05-11-07, 17:55
there is rumours that cairns marlins are the shit this year...
apperently they are ripping everyone up even in there Agrade league. also their is rumours that they are recieving 4 new players.
1. todd blanchfield (mackay)
2. Damon hueir (townsville)
3. Korey whitaker (South Australia)
4. Jordan Steinohrt ( Melbourne)
plus the usuals michael chitham, Geoff walsh, jEROMIE HILL and Kailou goerge.
they are the real team to beat at the classics this year.
stop talking shit about ur pathetic south boys comp....
the north runs this shit.
im out! xoxo
Jordan spent most of his rep life at Cairns, has only been in Melbourne for a year or two so is hardly new :)
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05-11-07, 19:25
Jordan spent most of his rep life at Cairns, has only been in Melbourne for a year or two so is hardly new :)Then bring him to Townsville like you did 2 years ago to Carina and Districts will deal with you the same way again with or without your 3 new superstars. Tod's parents might be a bit too loyal to Mackay but to let him play for another town?
Went looking for your precis first Emu. Always entertaining and I'm slowly learning the names of the GC kids we play against. (The names are a bit "in house" at times but and I'm still confused...which guard is DC?) Main thing I couldnt find however was much reference to Jessie Hilleary and most importantly, just who guarded him. Apart from playing to your offensive strengths I would think a key component to beating Logan would need to be a containment/shut down job on Jessie. Interested to know who took that role or did you do the "team/double D" thing with him?
Anyhow great result for Aden, Mick, Adam, Jessie and the boys, their confidence, and sure keeps the comp interesting.
(p.s. thats me on here before, just to deny Fly the cyber-copper the thrill of "uncovering" a known I.P. address on his endless trollings. Must be good fun hey??!)
Hey Maroochydore Coach........ if that really is you! :D
Jesse Hillary wasn't really a big factor in this game. I think the boys kept him to 10 or less. :eye-popping: Michael "Googs" Gullotta was given the main task of containing him and obviously was very successful. Googs was on him like a rash. Having said that, the help D was very functional with everyone working hard.
Sorry for being so Kryptic with my names. "DC" is Daniel Correa. Tall blond kid with a fine repertoire of moves n shots. A quiet achiever who I pick will be one to watch as a possible stand out before the end of the season as he settles in to his role with Coach Riches.
Maroochydore Coach
06-11-07, 09:01
Hey Maroochydore Coach........ if that really is you! :D
Jesse Hillary wasn't really a big factor in this game. I think the boys kept him to 10 or less. :eye-popping: Michael "Googs" Gullotta was given the main task of containing him and obviously was very successful. Googs was on him like a rash. Having said that, the help D was very functional with everyone working hard.
Sorry for being so Kryptic with my names. "DC" is Daniel Correa. Tall blond kid with a fine repertoire of moves n shots. A quiet achiever who I pick will be one to watch as a possible stand out before the end of the season as he settles in to his role with Coach Riches.
Yeh mate it is me. Been a fan of Daniel's since I had him in the Rumble teams coupla years back. Lot like his brother Carlos who just works tirelessly and quietly to great effect. He was high on my shutdown list with Googs, Aden, Adam and Jessie when we played you.
Good to see Googs still takes a defensive assignment and gets it done. With his improving offense and perimeter shot it may have taken a back seat. Good work. Logan have a couple of others who can and will hurt you but I figured the key is that it all runs around Jessie Hilleary. Against us he hit 21 first half points and kept Logan in it all the way. Izzy took over the D on him 5 mins before half time and kept him to 10 for the rest of the game which allowed us to put some points between us and come away with the W. Looks like you could be right and the gap is closing!
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07-11-07, 22:41
The writer said that buddy! He said they didnt match up and then said he thought Mitch outplayed Marc in his opinion. For Pete's sake mate, get over this obsession with Marc Rotteler. Unless the writer is Marc himself or his Mum (and I dont dare for a minute consider it would be!) then Marc himself must be starting to feel embarrassed, maybe even 'creeped out' by this attention every week. Look at it objectively. Mitch McCarron, in his role as PG, steered his team to a 32 point win. Marc Rotteler, in his role as team captain/organising guard/alleged superstar, failed to stop this happening. (On this occasion)
Objective basketball people fore saw the likelihood of SWM being too small to contain/control the bigger Brisbane side and said so right here. The same prediction was made against Gold Coast the week before. (Gold Coast apparently didnt play to that strength for whatever reason?) Please dont do a write up on here that detracts from the smart play/coaching of the BBI outfit and blames referees for a 32 point loss. (I love that habit of Sid's where he calls his players over while the game is in progress! Too cool!)
But please dont for a second EVER have a SWM supporter complaining about "home town" refereeing!! Have had the most disgraceful display of home court cheating ever at good old Runcorn and that was a game round finals time decided by 6 points based on the calls made by one ref in the last 2 minutes, not a first round fixture decided by 32 points! Please SWM give it a rest will ya?! Good job, young McCarron and the Brissos.
for what it is worth i think Marc is a good player and potentially a very good player and thats about all.
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08-11-07, 11:53
for what it is worth i think Marc is a good player and potentially a very good player and thats about all.
Yeh mate he is a good player. Just not as good as Mitch McCarron and a number of others on the night.
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08-11-07, 13:36
Maroochy coach, does your team read this board? The only reason I ask this is I can't understand why you would right both posts quoted here. Motivation by internet? Surely when your team is that good you don't need to play games...
Good on you Fly that guy is a real tosser. His explanation doesn't even make sense along with half of his self indulgent ravings. PLEASE give us a rest.
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