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Does anyone know where the 2009 U/20's will be held? All I have heard is that it's in Queensland.
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13-06-08, 14:33
The Australia U19 Team selected to play the William Jones Cup:
Todd BLANCHFIELD/AIS/Mackay/QLD
Ryan BROEKHOFF/AIS/Frankston/VIC
Matthew DELLAVEDOVA/AIS/Maryborough/VIC
Cody ELLIS/AIS/Sterling/WA
Ryan GODFREY/Rockingham/WA
Hugh GREENWOOD/AIS/Grenadiers-Hobart/TAS
Shane HARRIS-TUNKS/AIS/Liverpool/NSW
Brock MOTUM/AIS/Brisbane/QLD
Jorden PAGE/AIS/Maroochydore/QLD
Christian SALECICH/AIS/Sthn Districts/QLD
Brad SIMPSON/Illawarra/Goulburn/NSW
Mitchell YOUNG/AIS/Logan/QLD
Head Coach: Marty Clarke
Assistant coach: Damian Cotter
Manager: Bob McGugan
Physiotherapist: Peter Suffolk
Congratulations and good luck boys.
Great to see 5 QLD Boys named in this side .Cannot remember the last time we had so many young QLD players in the 1 Australian Team,well done to all the Associations in producing so many talented players in particular in one age group
Does anyone know where the 2009 U/20's will be held? All I have heard is that it's in Queensland.
Best I could find was dates: Queensland 15th to 22nd February 2009. No mention of a specific location anywhere. BQ's calendar only goes up to end of 2008
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25-06-08, 17:16
Best I could find was dates: Queensland 15th to 22nd February 2009. No mention of a specific location anywhere. BQ's calendar only goes up to end of 2008
Townsville.
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26-06-08, 09:13
Townsville.
Hope not !!
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27-06-08, 18:40
Cairns
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01-07-08, 15:22
Who is going to coach the queensland u20 teams this year?
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02-07-08, 10:09
Who is going to coach the queensland u20 teams this year?Chris Riches and Steve Welan
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09-07-08, 01:00
Reading in the latest Handle magazine 'These are the names of tomorrow bought to you today in conjuction with the top coaches, selectors and industry experts' Qlders ranked - Chris Steindl 3, Jorden Page 5, Brock Motum 7, Mitch Young 9, Salecich 11, Carter 22. Not too shabby boys.
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09-07-08, 19:13
Reading in the latest Handle magazine 'These are the names of tomorrow bought to you today in conjuction with the top coaches, selectors and industry experts' Qlders ranked - Chris Steindl 3, Jorden Page 5, Brock Motum 7, Mitch Young 9, Salecich 11, Carter 22. Not too shabby boys.
But there's experts in Queensland that reckons these boys are "overrated"?!?!
What's the real story?
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10-07-08, 08:17
Chris Riches and Steve Welan
WTF !! I hope this is a GEE UP !!
Does any body know if this is True ????
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16-07-08, 09:00
The National will be in Townsville. They were the only association in Queensland who bothered putting in for it. The coaches are yet to be announced by BQ but they will be Shane Froling for the men and Jason Chainey for the women.
The National will be in Townsville. They were the only association in Queensland who bothered putting in for it. The coaches are yet to be announced by BQ but they will be Shane Froling for the men and Jason Chainey for the women.
Interesting.... the word around under 18 nationals was that it was going to be held on the Gold Coast
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16-07-08, 18:36
But there's experts in Queensland that reckons these boys are "overrated"?!?!
What's the real story?
I think they said underachievers.
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16-07-08, 23:17
I think they said underachievers.
Read somewhere today that a bunch of them (the A.I.S. team) have finished equal 2nd in a 3 way tie with Qatar and Jordan at the William Jones Cup in Taipei. Think it said they beat both Qatar and Jordan in the rounds so should be clear 2nd behind the USA. 1 v 4 and 2 v 3 semi. If they win the semi they play (assumedly) USA for the Gold. Mind you there's only Clint, Mitch, Jord, Christian and Mitch in the team (hope I got them all) and 5 very good others but word on the street that this bunch of 18 year old Aussies have got heads spinning, jaws wagging and cheque books flapping after lighting up against professional senior teams from Europe and around the world to win their way this far. Not sure if Todd's there or not. Didnt see him in the scoring but doesnt mean he's not there. Apparently all frothin' to try out for Frol's U/20 QLD team to play in Townsville next year. Accidently deleted the email but think I got it right.
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17-07-08, 16:56
Read somewhere today that a bunch of them (the A.I.S. team) have finished equal 2nd in a 3 way tie with Qatar and Jordan at the William Jones Cup in Taipei. Think it said they beat both Qatar and Jordan in the rounds so should be clear 2nd behind the USA. 1 v 4 and 2 v 3 semi. If they win the semi they play (assumedly) USA for the Gold. Mind you there's only Clint, Mitch, Jord, Christian and Mitch in the team (hope I got them all) and 5 very good others but word on the street that this bunch of 18 year old Aussies have got heads spinning, jaws wagging and cheque books flapping after lighting up against professional senior teams from Europe and around the world to win their way this far. Not sure if Todd's there or not. Didnt see him in the scoring but doesnt mean he's not there. Apparently all frothin' to try out for Frol's U/20 QLD team to play in Townsville next year. Accidently deleted the email but think I got it right.
You forgot about Brock Motum who has already been approached by a college in the USA
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23-07-08, 14:34
Australian U19 Oceania Championsips Men’s Team Selected
Basketball Australia is pleased to announce the 12 athletes and staff selected for the Australian U19 Oceania Championsips Men’s team at Adelaide from 1 - 3 August.
Team for Oceania U19 Championships.
Todd Blanchfield (AIS / Mackay / Qld)
Ryan Broekhoff (AIS / Frankston / Vic)
Matthew Dellavedova (AIS / Maryborough / Vic)
Cody Ellis (AIS / Sterling / WA)
Ryan Godfrey (Rockingham / WA)
Hugh Greenwood (AIS / Grenadiers-Hobart / Tas)
Shane Harris-Tunks (AIS / Liverpool / NSW)
Brock Motum (AIS / Brisbane / Qld)
Jorden Page (AIS / Maroochydore / Qld)
Christian Salecich (AIS / Sthn Districts / Qld)
Bradley Simpson (Illawarra / Goulburn / NSW)
Mitchell Young (AIS / Logan / Qld)
Head Coach: Marty Clarke
Assistant Coach: Damian Cotter
Assistant Coach: Tim Mallon
Manager: Bob McGugan
Doctor: Dr Graham Lee
Physiotherapist: Peter Suffolk
Well done to the number of QLD boys(5) selected in this Team to represent their country ,
Good Luck in Adelaide !!!!
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23-07-08, 18:29
Interesting.... the word around under 18 nationals was that it was going to be held on the Gold Coast
Townsville are the only centre in Qld that meets BA's criteria for holding a National Championship.
Thats pathetic when you think about it, We need stadiums and we need em fast. BQ WTF have you done to get some suitable stadiiums built? Nice one with the Robina proposal...where is the alternative???
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23-07-08, 19:45
Townsville are the only centre in Qld that meets BA's criteria for holding a National Championship.
Thats pathetic when you think about it, We need stadiums and we need em fast. BQ WTF have you done to get some suitable stadiiums built? Nice one with the Robina proposal...where is the alternative???
Townsville does not even come close to Boondall as National Basketball Venue
It's official, TOWNSVILLE
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30-07-08, 21:35
It's official, TOWNSVILLE
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And whats your problem with it being in Townsville? They are the best association with their own stadium at running a tournament in Queensland. So they should get it
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30-07-08, 21:54
It's official, TOWNSVILLE
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It's been official for some months now. Just not widely known by those supposedly 'in the know'.
Townsville has good energy for Nationals for Queensland. We got Gold and Silver there in U/18 boys one year and a silver for the girls. Fantastic for Frohls to be finally coaching Queenslands primo crop of youngsters in front of his home crowd! Should bring the Crocs faithful out in droves as well. Townsville have the runs on the board with staging tournaments. Professional and ethical organisation, great facility, atmosphere and a crew of volunteers with basketball pedigree. Nice city good feel great seafood!
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04-08-08, 05:18
20's will be huge up North
Rate these teams making sure to take into account coaches and success at the Nats. Try and not be bias gang, looking for legit discussion
Qld
NSW
VIC
TAS
SA
WA
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04-08-08, 11:53
20's will be huge up North
Rate these teams making sure to take into account coaches and success at the Nats. Try and not be bias gang, looking for legit discussion
Qld
NSW
VIC
TAS
SA
WA
After having a sneak preview of who is going round at the Oceania tournament in Adelaide this weekend we have to rate QLD first by a mile and a bit. Page Salecich Motum Young are OUTSTANDING and theres the injured Todd Blanchfield to add to that mix also. The little two man play between Motum and Page that culminated in a massive left hand dunk in traffic by Jorden in yesterdays final game against NZ was just one of numerous big time plays all weekend that shows the Queensland group are playing exceptional ball together and as part of the Emus unit. Salecich's Defence is probably the best in the Emus and he has developed an offensive game with excellent shot selection and finishing on the rim or where he simply finds the right person every time. The whole team are an exceptional defensive unit with Jord's on ball and lane denial up there with Christian and Mitch and Brocks rotations trapping screens and defending the post and dribble/pass entry is as good as it gets. The Queenslanders are the major force in U/20's in Australia. This year they have the Coach to compliment them in Shane Frohling.
Victoria with Delladova Arnott and Broekhoff, plus the couple of elephants they have that arent in the Emus will be tough as hell as all 3 are exceptionally talented and will have a solid presence in their remaining roster.
Hard to predict NSW but they'll have Harris-Tunks who is very good but support may be a problem. Likewise WA with Cody Ellis. Exceptional talent but the teams depth may come up short against Queensland.
Hate making predictions before the size 16 lady yodels but here and now this looks like the top 4 for the 2009 U/20's.
Queensland
Victoria
WA-NSW
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05-08-08, 10:59
2008 U/21 AUSTRALIAN YOUTH PLAYER OF THE YEAR
This award recognizes improvement and development in players throughout the 2008 regular season.
BROCK MOTUM of the Australian Institute of Sport has been named the winner of the 2008 SEABL South Men Australian Youth Player of the Year continuing a great AIS tradition.
In his first season in the SEABL, Queenslander BROCK MOTUM wins the South Men Australian U/21 Youth Player of the Year Award. Brock has been a valuable contributor for the AIS this year and finished the season averaging 15.2pts (17th), 5rebs, 1ass, 1blk and 1.stls. 17 year old Brock Motum received his first Player of the Week in round 17 and was outstanding in the AIS shock 41pt thrashing of league powerhouse Geelong Supercats. Brock recorded 29pts@71% including 3/3 (100%) from behind three point arc, 9rebs and 1ass. The following day Brock returned home to the AIS and recorded 22pts@62%, 6rebs, 2ass and 2stls, helping the AIS record a 109-105 victory over Bendigo.
Motum helped the AIS to a 13-13 regular season record, grabbing fourth position, but were unable to compete in the Finals due to Basketball Australia commitments with the Emus U/19 program. Motum received a total of 22 votes and is the ninth AIS player to receive this award, behind current Boomers Andrew Bogut, David Anderson, Patrick Mills and Brad Newley.
2008 SOUTH MEN VOTING
Player, Team 1st 2nd 3rd Pts
Brock Motum (AIS) 4 5 0 22
Matthew Dellavedova (AIS) 4 1 4 18
Jorden Page (AIS) 3 2 4 17
CHRIS GOULDING received 27 out of a possible 36, including 7 first place votes from a panel of coaches and captains from all SEABL East Teams and was by far the standout youth player in the League. Goulding, whom played with the Brisbane Bullets NBL team and was a member of the Australian Emus at the World Championships last year is the first Spartans player to win the award.
19 year old Chris Goulding stamped himself as a future star in week one earning Player of the Week honours. Goulding averaged 30pts in the Spartans first two games and gave the rest of the league a massive warning that he was going to be a force this year. He scored 30+ points on nine occasions with a season best 43pts in round 18 vs Bendigo. Chris finished the season with averages of 24.0pts, 6.2rebs and 1.6ass. His best game came in round 16 at Albury/Wodonga with 33pts@56%, 11rebs, and 3ass.
Chris finished the season as the second best scorer averaging 24.0 per game and averaged nearly 40.5mins per game, helping the Spartans to a fourth place finish. Due to the collapse of the Brisbane Bullets NBL program, Chris is without an NBL team but is destined to have a big future in the SEABL in years to come.
2008 EAST MEN VOTING
Player, Team 1st 2nd 3rd Pts
Chris Goulding (S’thern Districts) 7 3 0 27
Ricky Henderson (Ballarat) 3 1 3 14
Lee McGaffin (NW Tasmania) 1 3 4 13
Victoria are unfortunately going to be a cut above again and WA, NSW and QLD will fight for 2nd and 3rd again
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05-08-08, 23:10
Victoria are unfortunately going to be a cut above again and WA, NSW and QLD will fight for 2nd and 3rd again
Thats the spirit!! Bring back the "Biff a Vic"!
Will be a hell of a Championships for sure by the way ALL those guys (Vics/NSW/WA and QLD)are playing. WA have Ellis and a couple of "sleepers" who arent in the Emus and not that well known. The very big son of ex Lang Park then Perth Wildcats Dan Hickert is in that side and had a strong tourny last year as a bottom ager. Dunno the names of the others from WA but they were hard arsed/never give up types that know how to play and jumped a disspirited QLD team in the bronze medal game last year. Victoria will have the Natoli/Arnott guard combo again and Ryan Broekfoff simply Goes Off! Shoots the 3 off the catch or the dribble at very high percentages and has the hops to dunk on your head if you close out too hard. Matt Deladova is an all class machine with competitive determination you wish you could bottle. Add in Vanderganda or whatever the 7 footer with muscles in his shit is called and Vic certainly look the goods.
But QLD just have a couple of things different this year. Sure there's the 4 super-hoopers from the South and Todd Blanchfield from Mackay working every day at the Tute under arguably the best Coach in the country, but then add in Damien Heighuer (shit I cant spell!) from Townsville and a couple of his mates from the Towny side, throw in Mick Chitham from Cairns and whatever else they have lurking about up there through the Taipans dev program (Another Jawai or Morseu perhaps?) Then there's a couple of tough as nails blue collar guys from Mackay who will make their presence felt at trials also. Not sure who Rocky and Gladstone have but there's sure to be a few guys there who arent overawed by the Emus guys and will make all the spots strongly competed for. Brendan Teys, Matt Hodgson and Cameron Bairstow also come into the mix along with Steve Lio-Willie and Brent Sheppard, Lachy Miller, Izzy Tueta and Jed Turner the bottom agers. Ice the cake with Shane Frohling as Head Coach and the highly respected Dwight Hicks as Assistant, sprinkle a touch of Townsville humidity, bitchin' seafood and home town passion and I'm thinking maybe the Vics will realise they didnt see the "real" Queensland team in Albury last year. Could be wrong but when the mackeral come on the bite early in August and the Bowen mango trees throw flowers in July, the old timers reckon it means Queenslands gonna win a Nationals...oh, and were gonna get a cyclone.
6/4 QLD
7/2 VIC
5-1 WA/NSW
WA have Ellis and a couple of "sleepers" who arent in the Emus and not that well known. The very big son of ex Lang Park then Perth Wildcats Dan Hickert is in that side and had a strong tourny last year as a bottom ager. Dunno the names of the others from WA but they were hard arsed/never give up types that know how to play and jumped a disspirited QLD team in the bronze medal game last year.
That'd be Jordan Hickert...and don't forget Ryan Godfrey from last years WA team who is also in the Emus side.
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08-08-08, 18:29
That'd be Jordan Hickert...and don't forget Ryan Godfrey from last years WA team who is also in the Emus side.
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Good point. OK WA 4-1. Did Cody play guard or something as a kid? Where'd he learn to shoot like that at 6'8" in Junior 'ball in WA???
Don't forget his dad played over 300 games for the Perth Wildcats and was one of the premier passers and shooters of his time. A bit of it was bound to rub off on him.
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24-08-08, 04:00
my team so far for 2009:
1. jordan page (all round brilliance on the court) / brent sheppard (defence)
2. christian (shooting/defence) / brendan teys (shooting)
3. anthony olah (flashy brillience) / todd blanchfied (all round game)
4. mitch young (post dominence) / brock motem (in and outside game)
5. nathan crombie (improveded and become more of a threat) / big man from up north ???
there are a few spots in which i am unaware to put players in. these are the players who in the past year have either played for australia or won championships in higher levels. is there any suggestions or changes that people might want to
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24-08-08, 09:40
my team so far for 2009:
1. jordan page (all round brilliance on the court) / brent sheppard (defence)
2. christian (shooting/defence) / brendan teys (shooting)
3. anthony olah (flashy brillience) / todd blanchfied (all round game)
4. mitch young (post dominence) / brock motem (in and outside game)
5. nathan crombie (improveded and become more of a threat) / big man from up north ???
there are a few spots in which i am unaware to put players in. these are the players who in the past year have either played for australia or won championships in higher levels. is there any suggestions or changes that people might want to
The QLD U20 state team 2009:
Jorden Page
Damon Heuir
Christian Salechich
Brendan Teys
Todd Blanchfield
Brock Motum
Mitchell Young
Nathan Crombie
Cameron Bairstow
Matt Hodgson
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24-08-08, 11:31
there is no way that you can take damon over brent. he is a good player fair enough but experience is not something that you can just make you have to work for it and brent has that
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24-08-08, 21:53
my team so far for 2009:
1. jordan page (all round brilliance on the court) / brent sheppard (defence)
2. christian (shooting/defence) / brendan teys (shooting)
3. anthony olah (flashy brillience) / todd blanchfied (all round game)
4. mitch young (post dominence) / brock motem (in and outside game)
5. nathan crombie (improveded and become more of a threat) / big man from up north ???
there are a few spots in which i am unaware to put players in. these are the players who in the past year have either played for australia or won championships in higher levels. is there any suggestions or changes that people might want to
Good team and the majority of them pick themselves. Cant fault anyone in there but probably need to think of the Steve Lio-Willie type player to add in some 'grunt' and role playing versatility. He's played with Mitch/Christian/Jordy/Brendan before at National level and has reportedly been developing well in ABA. Think Bairstow and Hodgson are probably better prospects than Nathan and of course you never know who is lurking about in the Northern programs that might be in the mix.
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24-08-08, 22:19
Wont some of those AIS players be in America playing college ball next year?
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25-08-08, 06:55
Wont some of those AIS players be in America playing college ball next year?
No, they are here till the Worlds next year. Those attending Uni in the states will be starting in basically 12 months time.
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25-08-08, 10:31
The QLD U20 state team 2009:
Jorden Page
Damon Heuir
Christian Salechich
Brendan Teys
Todd Blanchfield
Brock Motum
Mitchell Young
Nathan Crombie
Cameron Bairstow
Matt Hodgson
No need to have three centres ,would go with Crombie & Bairstow young Hodgson struggled with foul trouble in the past Nationals, playing up against the experienced and older boys he will struggle my line up would be something like this
P/G- Page ,Heuir
S/G- Salecich,Teys
S/F - Blanchfield. Chittham
P/F- Motum,Young
C - Crombie, Bairstow
Good versatile side with a number of players that can step up in other positions so we can go big or small and still be explosive
Go Big and play inside out
Salecich
Blanchfield
Motum
Young
Crombie
Smaller and run fast transition lanes and a huge shooting game
Page
Teys
Salecich
Motum
Young
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25-08-08, 15:34
i am glad that you are not choosing the team s to have damon in the team over some other players who are top age and again and again have provne themselves to be more that capable players to fills positions and be ROLE PLAYERS. it comes back to the same old story as to have a team full of stars then to have a team full of role players i would put my money on the team of role players to win. isnt it funny how people choose to bag specific players time and time again however when it comes to the crunch those players have proven themselves time and time again weither it be from have national gold aroung their necks of state gold medals. questions should be asked as to queenslands selection method
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25-08-08, 19:40
i am glad that you are not choosing the team s to have damon in the team over some other players who are top age and again and again have provne themselves to be more that capable players to fills positions and be ROLE PLAYERS. it comes back to the same old story as to have a team full of stars then to have a team full of role players i would put my money on the team of role players to win. isnt it funny how people choose to bag specific players time and time again however when it comes to the crunch those players have proven themselves time and time again weither it be from have national gold aroung their necks of state gold medals. questions should be asked as to queenslands selection method
You are talking in riddles here.
NONE of these boys have National Gold medals hanging around their necks, thats the point?
Get specific, I am assuming you are talking of Brent Shepard? Who has been bagged out here? Who are the other "role" players you would like to see in the side? It will be the toughest state team to make ever, and a lot of quality will miss out.
Frols has inherited a talented but under achieving group, lets see if he is the man to get it done. Talent will not be a problem thats for sure.
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25-08-08, 20:23
You are talking in riddles here.
NONE of these boys have National Gold medals hanging around their necks, thats the point?
Get specific, I am assuming you are talking of Brent Shepard? Who has been bagged out here? Who are the other "role" players you would like to see in the side? It will be the toughest state team to make ever, and a lot of quality will miss out.
Frols has inherited a talented but under achieving group, lets see if he is the man to get it done. Talent will not be a problem thats for sure.
It's true that the guys themselves have not achieved the outcomes their 'talent' seems capable of in recent times but you could look at it another way. Ever since Ron Heilbron took them to the 16s Bronze and then EVERY body wanted to coach them, they havent exactly had 'proven' coaches in charge have they? Shane Froling's coaching credentials are impeccable and his knowledge of the age group, including other States players, from his work at the AIS and All Aust. camps sees the Queensland team in highly capable hands. You would definately need to know your basketball to be able to find fault with whoever Frols picks and how he runs the side because the guy is universally acknowledged as the 'honest broker' and highly respected by everyone in basketball's top echelons that knows him. Most importantly the boys themselves are frothin' for the chance to play for him. Makes a huge difference.
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26-08-08, 18:11
there is no way that you can take damon over brent. he is a good player fair enough but experience is not something that you can just make you have to work for it and brent has that
Damon has been to 4 nationals winning bronze this year, 20.1 ppg 5ass 6rbs leader in a bunch of stats, is in the U19 Australian squad and has a tryout for an AIS scholarship in 2 weeks. No experience, what planet you from.
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26-08-08, 20:38
It's true that the guys themselves have not achieved the outcomes their 'talent' seems capable of in recent times but you could look at it another way. Ever since Ron Heilbron took them to the 16s Bronze and then EVERY body wanted to coach them, they havent exactly had 'proven' coaches in charge have they? Shane Froling's coaching credentials are impeccable and his knowledge of the age group, including other States players, from his work at the AIS and All Aust. camps sees the Queensland team in highly capable hands. You would definately need to know your basketball to be able to find fault with whoever Frols picks and how he runs the side because the guy is universally acknowledged as the 'honest broker' and highly respected by everyone in basketball's top echelons that knows him. Most importantly the boys themselves are frothin' for the chance to play for him. Makes a huge difference.
What's a "proven" coach?
Leonard King had everyone on here saying he was the greatest last year, boys finished 4th.
Ron Radliff, he is not a proven coach? Pull the other one, boys finished 3rd.
Murry Aldridge, highest rated coach by BA in our state, boys finished 4th.
Ron Helibron, un proven?
Then you espouse Frolings credentials, and with all due respect tell me a TEAM that Shane has actually coached? Sure he does indos and was in BA's ITC program. He has never actually head coached a team before at State, ABA or Nationals. This is indeed a big test for the "unproven" coach Froling. Now having said all that I think Frols is a good choice, but he is certainly no Bruce Palmer. It will be interesting to see how he handles the pressure that favortisim brings. If they fall short again everyone on here will take the easy way out and bag the Coach.
I truely think it is time the "players" step up and make a statement. They will deservedly be favorites. They need to play with some passion, play hard nosed D, check their egos in at the start of the week and play as a team. Then just maybe they might finally win that gold medal that has eluded them for too long. Queensland have the horses, its time!
Go boys!!
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27-08-08, 08:48
What's a "proven" coach?
Leonard King had everyone on here saying he was the greatest last year, boys finished 4th.
Ron Radliff, he is not a proven coach? Pull the other one, boys finished 3rd.
Murry Aldridge, highest rated coach by BA in our state, boys finished 4th.
Ron Helibron, un proven?
Then you espouse Frolings credentials, and with all due respect tell me a TEAM that Shane has actually coached? Sure he does indos and was in BA's ITC program. He has never actually head coached a team before at State, ABA or Nationals. This is indeed a big test for the "unproven" coach Froling. Now having said all that I think Frols is a good choice, but he is certainly no Bruce Palmer. It will be interesting to see how he handles the pressure that favortisim brings. If they fall short again everyone on here will take the easy way out and bag the Coach.
I truely think it is time the "players" step up and make a statement. They will deservedly be favorites. They need to play with some passion, play hard nosed D, check their egos in at the start of the week and play as a team. Then just maybe they might finally win that gold medal that has eluded them for too long. Queensland have the horses, its time!
Go boys!!
Cannot see how you place QLD as favourites ,there is a little piece of Land down South that is called Victoria which will in my mind be favourites and rightly so they have a number of very talented players and proven National winning coaches ,
Delladova
Arnott
Orr
Van D berg
Liam Mc
Watts
Kitchin
And who knows what else is lurking in the Southern midst
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27-08-08, 09:10
Cannot see how you place QLD as favourites ,there is a little piece of Land down South that is called Victoria which will in my mind be favourites and rightly so they have a number of very talented players and proven National winning coaches ,
Delladova
Arnott
Orr
Van D berg
Liam Mc
Watts
Kitchin
And who knows what else is lurking in the Southern midst
Thats great mate, Victoria have some talent and traditon in their corner.
However, Qld have more talent at this time, thats evident by the 6 AIS boys.
Add in the fact that the Nationals are in Tropical Queensland, that equals favoritism!!
No doubt!!
Correction: Murry Aldridges 06 team lost their first two games and finished out of the medal round and eventually came 5th, not 4th as previoulsy stated.
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27-08-08, 11:16
Thats great mate, Victoria have some talent and traditon in their corner.
However, Qld have more talent at this time, thats evident by the 6 AIS boys.
Add in the fact that the Nationals are in Tropical Queensland, that equals favoritism!!
No doubt!!
Correction: Murry Aldridges 06 team lost their first two games and finished out of the medal round and eventually came 5th, not 4th as previoulsy stated.
5 Boys at the AIS if you have included Clint it would have been 6 but Clint is a year older and has left for College with Pat Mills at ST Marys recently
The boys currently at the AIS are
Jorden
Christian
Todd
Brock
Mitch
All top age exept for Todd
By the way any rumours on were some of these boys might be playing their college basketball
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27-08-08, 11:24
5 Boys at the AIS if you have included Clint it would have been 6 but Clint is a year older and has left for College with Pat Mills at ST Marys recently
The boys currently at the AIS are
Jorden
Christian
Todd
Brock
Mitch
All top age exept for Todd
By the way any rumours on were some of these boys might be playing their college basketball
Meant to say 6 current or X AIS boys available, meaning Crombie. Would not be suprised to see at least one more QLD boy make the AIS before the Nats in Feb 09 too.
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27-08-08, 23:18
there is no way that you can take damon over brent. he is a good player fair enough but experience is not something that you can just make you have to work for it and brent has that
Brent bradnam sheppard would be more suited for the position as his dog and cat can DUNK quite well.
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27-08-08, 23:37
Brent bradnam sheppard would be more suited for the position as his dog and cat can DUNK quite well.
But damon's dog won a bronze in the high jump in Beijing. Brent cat has challenged for a dunk off at the D League finals to decide the selection. The question is whether Damon's dog can palm the ball.
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28-08-08, 07:40
Brent bradnam sheppard would be more suited for the position as his dog and cat can DUNK quite well.
Brent has only been at 2 nationals 1 For NT playing street ball because he did not make QLD Sth and u/18 as the 9th or 10Th player how do you get experience out of that,
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28-08-08, 08:53
Brent has only been at 2 nationals 1 For NT playing street ball because he did not make QLD Sth and u/18 as the 9th or 10Th player how do you get experience out of that,
Add in a Regionals win a Classics win D League finals and the fact the guy knows how to win and you sorta get the experience picture. Still going to be a hard team to make and Frols certainly doesnt read bendoes
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28-08-08, 09:45
Add in a Regionals win a Classics win D League finals and the fact the guy knows how to win and you sorta get the experience picture. Still going to be a hard team to make and Frols certainly doesnt read bendoes
Reality check DLeague , Classics and especially regionals donot even come close to a National competition .
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28-08-08, 13:43
hey guys lets think back to andrew bogut we all know that brent is not in the same league as him but the fact is that brent has won 7 state finals been a gold meadalist at national schools a bronze medal at nationals. top scorer and rebounder in australia and has also recieved the senstock award for MVP of the state finals also only been playing in queensland for 4 years. ??? what more does the guy have to do beofre everyone gets off his back he is a nice bloke and just lives to play ball.
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28-08-08, 16:27
hey guys lets think back to andrew bogut we all know that brent is not in the same league as him but the fact is that brent has won 7 state finals been a gold meadalist at national schools a bronze medal at nationals. top scorer and rebounder in australia and has also recieved the senstock award for MVP of the state finals also only been playing in queensland for 4 years. ??? what more does the guy have to do beofre everyone gets off his back he is a nice bloke and just lives to play ball.
Man you know way too much about B Shepard, thats scary...unless you are the man himself.
Thats even a scarier thought..
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28-08-08, 16:46
Man you know way too much about B Shepard, thats scary...unless you are the man himself.
Thats even a scarier thought..
That's the reality of QLD ball, the little prodigys that come up from u14s and are mollycoddied by QAS are selected over hard working true ball players like Brent. True ballers have to work hard to be noticed but still don't get a chance. Unless you're 7" you get overlooked because QAS thru local associations have preselected WHO THEY THINK, emphasis on THINK will be the future ballers in QLD, unfortunately the hard workers are snubbed.
Brent you're a champ and a fine example to us all.
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28-08-08, 18:05
He may be no superstar but i would have him in my team any time.Gets the job done with smarts,teams he plays in seem to have the knack of winning so get off his back.
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28-08-08, 20:32
That's the reality of QLD ball, the little prodigys that come up from u14s and are mollycoddied by QAS are selected over hard working true ball players like Brent. True ballers have to work hard to be noticed but still don't get a chance. Unless you're 7" you get overlooked because QAS thru local associations have preselected WHO THEY THINK, emphasis on THINK will be the future ballers in QLD, unfortunately the hard workers are snubbed.
Brent you're a champ and a fine example to us all.
So accept the fact and move on. If he aint got it he aint got it
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28-08-08, 21:59
So accept the fact and move on. If he aint got it he aint got it
And neither do the other mollycoddled QAS prodigys either. True ballers work harder and play harder than most of these preselected wannabes.
Hard working ballers are legends.
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29-08-08, 07:53
And neither do the other mollycoddled QAS prodigys either. True ballers work harder and play harder than most of these preselected wannabes.
Hard working ballers are legends.
Your right they are 'wannabes' why else do they play ball. If Brent is so good he shall be justly rewarded without having trained/come through the Qas program shouldnt he?. He obviously hasnt got that 'x factor' selectors are looking for. Maybe he could try dummy half or hooker in the footy codes.
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29-08-08, 10:41
Your right they are 'wannabes' why else do they play ball. If Brent is so good he shall be justly rewarded without having trained/come through the Qas program shouldnt he?. He obviously hasnt got that 'x factor' selectors are looking for. Maybe he could try dummy half or hooker in the footy codes.
Get off your high horse!
It's attitudes like yours that's killing bball in QLD, give every hard working baller no matter with QAS, AIS or just local ASS a fair go. Learn to accept all ballers for where they have come from.
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29-08-08, 11:07
Get off your high horse!
It's attitudes like yours that's killing bball in QLD, give every hard working baller no matter with QAS, AIS or just local ASS a fair go. Learn to accept all ballers for where they have come from.
Learn to accept he may not be one of the chosen few and that goes for every person who comes on here and talks up players they think should be in certain teams, we read the same pros and cons for these fringe dwellers year after year, yet still they get overlooked.
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29-08-08, 11:34
Learn to accept he may not be one of the chosen few and that goes for every person who comes on here and talks up players they think should be in certain teams, we read the same pros and cons for these fringe dwellers year after year, yet still they get overlooked.
Keep twisting the knife!!!!
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29-08-08, 12:03
That's the reality of QLD ball, the little prodigys that come up from u14s and are mollycoddied by QAS are selected over hard working true ball players like Brent. True ballers have to work hard to be noticed but still don't get a chance. Unless you're 7" you get overlooked because QAS thru local associations have preselected WHO THEY THINK, emphasis on THINK will be the future ballers in QLD, unfortunately the hard workers are snubbed.
Brent you're a champ and a fine example to us all.
So you think that the players that get picked for QAS or Players picked for the AIS did not work there arse of to get to were they are today ,thats right it was handed to them on a platter without any sweat , blood ,tears and sacrifices ,you are SHORTSIGHTED MORON !!!!,
I`m glad your not looking after the future of Australian Basketball.
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29-08-08, 12:11
So you think that the players that get picked for QAS or Players picked for the AIS did not work there arse of to get to were they are today ,thats right it was handed to them on a platter without any sweat , blood ,tears and sacrifices ,you are SHORTSIGHTED MORON !!!!,
I`m glad your not looking after the future of Australian Basketball.
You said, "handed to them on a platter....
blah, blah, blah. The truth hurts obviously.
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29-08-08, 12:31
Didn't the fine crop of qld players who are at the AIS come through the qas?? Along with Crombie and the other guy that got dropped. seems like they are doing a great job just cant please everyone. sounds like the same bitter and twisted person who has been on about this for years. anyone care to have a guess
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29-08-08, 12:33
Keep twisting the knife!!!!
No knife twisting, just the plain facts and reality of rep basketball.
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29-08-08, 12:51
No knife twisting, just the plain facts and reality of rep basketball.
The penny has dropped...."plain facts and reality of rep basketball". Small little world...manipulated by big egos, QAS and big noters who watch minimal games at classics and select from 5 days of games....again "thinking" they have selected top players. Get off your big backsides and get out during rep season and see what talent is there, you'll be humbled by the hardworking talented playas out there.
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29-08-08, 14:06
The penny has dropped...."plain facts and reality of rep basketball". Small little world...manipulated by big egos, QAS and big noters who watch minimal games at classics and select from 5 days of games....again "thinking" they have selected top players. Get off your big backsides and get out during rep season and see what talent is there, you'll be humbled by the hardworking talented playas out there.
Yes but they still need to be a 'stand out' have that special something something!
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29-08-08, 14:59
Yes but they still need to be a 'stand out' have that special something something!
YES... agreed!
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29-08-08, 18:56
The penny has dropped...."plain facts and reality of rep basketball". Small little world...manipulated by big egos, QAS and big noters who watch minimal games at classics and select from 5 days of games....again "thinking" they have selected top players. Get off your big backsides and get out during rep season and see what talent is there, you'll be humbled by the hardworking talented playas out there.
Shows how much you know, selectors are there watching rep games throughout the season, you just dont see them or realise they are there. Sorry if your kid doesnt get a look in. Maybe he hasnt got what they are looking for.
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29-08-08, 20:48
Man you know way too much about B Shepard, thats scary...unless you are the man himself.
Thats even a scarier thought..
stop talking about me
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30-08-08, 00:13
Shows how much you know, selectors are there watching rep games throughout the season, you just dont see them or realise they are there. Sorry if your kid doesnt get a look in. Maybe he hasnt got what they are looking for.
If that is the case, as YOU say, why the cloak and dagger act?
We know who you are..... that's why the frustration because you're doing such a pathetic job.
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30-08-08, 08:02
Shows how much you know, selectors are there watching rep games throughout the season, you just dont see them or realise they are there. Sorry if your kid doesnt get a look in. Maybe he hasnt got what they are looking for.
Knowing several of the playas selected this past season state development....neither do "they" have what "you" should be looking for.....but then who are we to question the almighty powers of the selectors, who as you say "have been watching throughout rep season".
I'll be more specific... when one of the players selected plays ball ONLY in rep season, was in the div 3 team, playing footy during the off season, can't catch the ball at the best of time or dribble or do basic drills like shoot or rebound as a big..... BUT IS still selected over mvp for qld...please let me try and spell it out loud and clear... WHAT THE HELL ARE YOU LOOKING FOR? DO YOU KNOW?
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30-08-08, 09:59
Knowing several of the playas selected this past season state development....neither do "they" have what "you" should be looking for.....but then who are we to question the almighty powers of the selectors, who as you say "have been watching throughout rep season".
I'll be more specific... when one of the players selected plays ball ONLY in rep season, was in the div 3 team, playing footy during the off season, can't catch the ball at the best of time or dribble or do basic drills like shoot or rebound as a big..... BUT IS still selected over mvp for qld...please let me try and spell it out loud and clear... WHAT THE HELL ARE YOU LOOKING FOR? DO YOU KNOW?
Just a parent who has been around the rep scene a few years and knows, understand a little of how selections work. I dont think selectors would come on bendoes and argue with parents or try explain themselves to us do you?
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30-08-08, 10:14
Shows how much you know, selectors are there watching rep games throughout the season, you just dont see them or realise they are there. Sorry if your kid doesnt get a look in. Maybe he hasnt got what they are looking for.
My question would be, who are these "selectors", do they actually know what they are looking at (and why) and what set of criteria and competencies are they working from for their "selections"?
The QAS Basketball program has now been scrapped in its present form and rejigged to a user pays format. But go ahead and give us your answers anyway.
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30-08-08, 10:22
Just a parent who has been around the rep scene a few years and knows, understand a little of how selections work. I dont think selectors would come on bendoes and argue with parents or try explain themselves to us do you?
No they definately wouldnt. In fact they dont/wont explain their selections to anyone outside their little focus group. They are however hyper-vigilant to what is written on bendoes just ask anyone whose made the mistake of offering a conflicting opinion or asked a difficult but obvious question.
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30-08-08, 12:42
who are you referring to as the MVP of QLD I asume its a figurative term but am genuinely interested
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30-08-08, 12:57
who are you referring to as the MVP of QLD I asume its a figurative term but am genuinely interested
FACTS ONLY HERE. Not willing to name.
Hence peoples frustrations at the selected few.
I do have a child in qld rep scene for past 5 years and I accept his obvious limitations with ball, but do observe talented skilled players overlooked for the example I gave. That is my stand.
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30-08-08, 20:53
Never in 30 yrs seen a rep team or squad picked that everyone agreed with. Its all opinion. so get over yourselves
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31-08-08, 10:18
My question would be, who are these "selectors", do they actually know what they are looking at (and why) and what set of criteria and competencies are they working from for their "selections"?
The QAS Basketball program has now been scrapped in its present form and rejigged to a user pays format. But go ahead and give us your answers anyway.
What is this rejigged user pay format proposed by the Qas, where do you get the information about it. Is it public knowledge? Would that not give opportunites to players whose supporters come on here whining they should be 'in" or miss out year after year whose parents have money to pay to get them seen is that the propsal?
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31-08-08, 10:20
Never in 30 yrs seen a rep team or squad picked that everyone agreed with. Its all opinion. so get over yourselves
And the results speak for themselves. That's my point!!!!
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31-08-08, 14:35
if you were a selector instead of a pathetic whinger there would still be just as many wankers bitching about your selections.
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31-08-08, 14:39
if you were a selector instead of a pathetic whinger there would still be just as many wankers bitching about your selections.
Statistics speak for themselves, no alter ego crap just let the stats tell the story....
how good a job have the selectors for QLD ball been doing?
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31-08-08, 20:38
if you were a selector instead of a pathetic whinger there would still be just as many wankers bitching about your selections.
Again, just who are these "selectors" (and whats their credentials) who get to call people who ask the obvious questions 'pathetic whingers'? Try an intelligent answer instead of school yard bully abuse. If your one of these "selectors" anointed by the powers that run BQ and the QAS and are so strident that your knowledge is impeccable and your actions ethical then enligten us with your identity and we can all be humbled by your qualifications and forever keep our peace.
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01-09-08, 11:44
who are you referring to as the MVP of QLD I asume its a figurative term but am genuinely interested
I`m very interested in this MVP of QLD ,WHAT AGE GROUP IS HE /SHE Playing this year would be interesting to see who they are up against in their own age group and what are the stats (National/Rep/School) that you refer to for him/her to be labelled as MVP of QLD, which i find to be a very arrogant statement from a parent with rose coloured glasses ,If your going to talk the talk how about doing the walk ,
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01-09-08, 22:59
I`m very interested in this MVP of QLD ,WHAT AGE GROUP IS HE /SHE Playing this year would be interesting to see who they are up against in their own age group and what are the stats (National/Rep/School) that you refer to for him/her to be labelled as MVP of QLD, which i find to be a very arrogant statement from a parent with rose coloured glasses ,If your going to talk the talk how about doing the walk ,
I am over it now... I have the facts and I'm sure so do many, many other 'parents with rose coloured glasses'. Its like talking to a brick wall and the chosen few will keep getting chosen while the skilled workers are overlooked. I'm walking, walking right out of this fruitless discussion.
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02-09-08, 07:56
I am over it now... I have the facts and I'm sure so do many, many other 'parents with rose coloured glasses'. Its like talking to a brick wall and the chosen few will keep getting chosen while the skilled workers are overlooked. I'm walking, walking right out of this fruitless discussion.
The only reason your walking out of this discussion is because you have nothing to back up the crap you have been dibbling on this site so run and hide little man . The way i look at it QLD coaches and programmes must be doing something right to have had 8 boys at the AIS in the last 2 yrs, 5 playing for the EMUS at present There true facts not the fictional dribble that you can not even produce .
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02-09-08, 08:29
The only reason your walking out of this discussion is because you have nothing to back up the crap you have been dibbling on this site so run and hide little man . The way i look at it QLD coaches and programmes must be doing something right to have had 8 boys at the AIS in the last 2 yrs, 5 playing for the EMUS at present There true facts not the fictional dribble that you can not even produce .
There you go again, answering your own questions...this time helping my debate...8 in 2 years....you do the maths!!!!!
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02-09-08, 09:34
There you go again, answering your own questions...this time helping my debate...8 in 2 years....you do the maths!!!!!
DRIBBLER the facts are if your kids missed out he aint good enough get a grip and get over it .
By the way 8/4= 2 it does get a bit hard after the number 5
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02-09-08, 12:49
The only reason your walking out of this discussion is because you have nothing to back up the crap you have been dibbling on this site so run and hide little man . The way i look at it QLD coaches and programmes must be doing something right to have had 8 boys at the AIS in the last 2 yrs, 5 playing for the EMUS at present There true facts not the fictional dribble that you can not even produce .
The current crop of AIS/Emus guys are the end result of the program run by one Oliver Dudfield, the network coaches he was able to recruit and a huge contribution by Ron Heilbron. Nothing to do with the recent qas program. Ron Heilbron now trains horses so go figure.
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02-09-08, 14:26
The current crop of AIS/Emus guys are the end result of the program run by one Oliver Dudfield, the network coaches he was able to recruit and a huge contribution by Ron Heilbron. Nothing to do with the recent qas program. Ron Heilbron now trains horses so go figure.
I dont think Ron had a lot to do wiyh these boys achieving it was more Ollie ,Murray and association coaches
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02-09-08, 14:30
I dont think Ron had a lot to do wiyh these boys achieving it was more Ollie ,Murray and association coaches
Whoa.
Hold up.
All credit was going to QAS selectors a while ago, dah.
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02-09-08, 14:56
Whoa.
Hold up.
All credit was going to QAS selectors a while ago, dah.
You really dont know much ,who do you think nominates these kids to QAS coaches to keep an eye out on ,You better ask some of the coaches about it .
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02-09-08, 22:15
Queensland 2009 Under 20 Women’s State Team Trials!
My name is Jason Chainey, and I have been appointed Head Coach of the 2009 Qld U20 Women’s State Team. I am writing to invite interested female athletes, born 90/91, to trial for a position in the 2009 Queensland Under 20 Women's State Team to participate at the National Championships in Townsville, 15th – 21st February 2009.
In putting together a squad in preparation for the championships, I need to first gauge the interest of athletes in attending trial/s. Once this is determined and we know what sort of numbers there will be from North and South regions, we can work through whether or not we have two trials, one in the North and one in the South.
Venue & dates are yet to be decided and advising me of your availability will asssit with this. Therefore your intention to attend the trial is required almost immediately, but not later than Friday 19th September, and your response should be sent to jason.chainey@vodafone.com as soon as possible or on mobile 0414 106 355.
I encourage all eligible players to trial for this team. Please feel free to give me a call should you have any questions and I look forward to hopefully seeing you at the trials.
Regards
Jason Chainey – Head Coach, Qld U20 Women
Mobile – 0414 106355
Email – jason.chainey@vodafone.com
Steve Weiland – Assistant Coach
Eunice Austin – Team Manager
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18-09-08, 00:17
this is the line up that the under 20 will come down to
1.brizzy
2.gold coast
3. marrochy
4.south west
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18-09-08, 21:44
gold coast what makes you think they will be there this year is maroochy in there is no word on whos in ...
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18-09-08, 22:32
Sorry to say that ron heilbronn was a shit coach and far too agro. punishement all the way at training. i hated it and it did not make me a better person
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19-09-08, 00:27
Sorry to say that ron heilbronn was a shit coach and far too agro. punishement all the way at training. i hated it and it did not make me a better person
I'd reckon your not one of the 3 or 4 who are currently playing for Australia and starring in ABA who did like him as a coach.
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02-10-08, 15:07
5 Boys at the AIS if you have included Clint it would have been 6 but Clint is a year older and has left for College with Pat Mills at ST Marys recently
The boys currently at the AIS are
Jorden
Christian
Todd
Brock
Mitch
All top age exept for Todd
By the way any rumours on were some of these boys might be playing their college basketball
Only Rumours and any body out there that can confirm great .
Page - St Marys
Young - St Marys
Motum - Washington st
Salesich -????
Blanchfield - Still has another year
Another rumour Rick Majerus (Utah - Bogut fame) was scouting in Brisbane Lang Park & G/Coast for a couple of Aussie bigs
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02-10-08, 19:51
Only Rumours and any body out there that can confirm great .
Page - St Marys
Young - St Marys
Motum - Washington st
Salesich -????
Blanchfield - Still has another year
Another rumour Rick Majerus (Utah - Bogut fame) was scouting in Brisbane Lang Park & G/Coast for a couple of Aussie bigs
How did he rate Hodgson and Bairstow?
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05-10-08, 22:33
Again, just who are these "selectors" (and whats their credentials) who get to call people who ask the obvious questions 'pathetic whingers'? Try an intelligent answer instead of school yard bully abuse. If your one of these "selectors" anointed by the powers that run BQ and the QAS and are so strident that your knowledge is impeccable and your actions ethical then enligten us with your identity and we can all be humbled by your qualifications and forever keep our peace.
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I'm not from BQ, QAS, an Association, etc, so I'll keep my comment short & sweet.
While some people are arguing about the "name players" & the players that "should be name players" at QAS, State Teams, etc, a number of the young players that are currently being watched for overseas / international programs are flying well beneath the radar. This is fact, not fiction as I have friends throughout Australia that speak directly with various scouts when they are overseas or out here.
Whilst we have the higher profile kids of QAS / AIS, etc, people rarely if ever talk about these "relatively unrecognised but potential filled kids" and I'm sure they enjoy just playing ball with no spotlight before eventually heading abroad when they have fully developed and when the time is right. In fact a couple of the "relatively Unknowns" rode off into the sunset not that long ago for pro ball and college ball careers overseas and few really knew they were even here in the first place. They were never involved with QAS, AIS or State Teams.
Many of the overseas scouts see potential & talent in other players that our Qld & Australian Programs don't see or they slip quietly through the system. So there is plenty of light on the horizon and many paths to follow. If you have talent or strong potential, don't worry about the local scene if you are not in the picture here, look outside the box and pursue opportunities that are "absolutely everywhere" on a global scale.
Trying to prove yourself right in the eyes of others is a big time waster. Players should just get on with the job of going for their goals through "every" available option. In five or ten years time no-one will particularly remember or care about who made what junior rep program anyway, except maybe you, your mum or grandma. Its not where you start the journey but where you finish that is important.
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06-10-08, 09:38
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I'm not from BQ, QAS, an Association, etc, so I'll keep my comment short & sweet.
While some people are arguing about the "name players" & the players that "should be name players" at QAS, State Teams, etc, a number of the young players that are currently being watched for overseas / international programs are flying well beneath the radar. This is fact, not fiction as I have friends throughout Australia that speak directly with various scouts when they are overseas or out here.
Whilst we have the higher profile kids of QAS / AIS, etc, people rarely if ever talk about these "relatively unrecognised but potential filled kids" and I'm sure they enjoy just playing ball with no spotlight before eventually heading abroad when they have fully developed and when the time is right. In fact a couple of the "relatively Unknowns" rode off into the sunset not that long ago for pro ball and college ball careers overseas and few really knew they were even here in the first place. They were never involved with QAS, AIS or State Teams.
Many of the overseas scouts see potential & talent in other players that our Qld & Australian Programs don't see or they slip quietly through the system. So there is plenty of light on the horizon and many paths to follow. If you have talent or strong potential, don't worry about the local scene if you are not in the picture here, look outside the box and pursue opportunities that are "absolutely everywhere" on a global scale.
Trying to prove yourself right in the eyes of others is a big time waster. Players should just get on with the job of going for their goals through "every" available option. In five or ten years time no-one will particularly remember or care about who made what junior rep program anyway, except maybe you, your mum or grandma. Its not where you start the journey but where you finish that is important.
Nice Post and right on the money,
What some coaches see in one player is not what another coach might see,especially in college & European ball were a lot of coaches prefer solid role players with complete games for their teams not the flashy coast to coast player that looks for his own opportunity first and team second , where here in Australia we love the individual brilliance of a player hence the reason majority of the players picked in our Aussie programmes ,very rarely you will find a kid that plays great D does all the little things 100 perc plays a complete team game and averages 5 pts a game get a look in , Have a look at majority of MVP`S picked through out junior tournaments all leading point scorers but does that make them a better player or team player ,thats why some of our elite juniors do struggle to fit in when they get to College ball , where it becomes a very structured team game especially if they get a chance to play in the top rated conferences ,this is were some of the kids that are mentioned in the Quoted post exel,as team role players0
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06-10-08, 09:42
Did the U20 team get named after last weekends trials?
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06-10-08, 11:15
Did the U20 team get named after last weekends trials?
I think you will find that the actual team will not be named until The coach has his complete compliment of players available for at least a couple of training session over Xmas , When the AIS boys are back for their holidays , Even tho canot see any of them missing out just the right way to approach it , South will probably dominate the side as expected but there might be a couple of surprises from the North,
As i see it definates at the moment (My opinion only)!!!!
PG- Page,Heuir
SG- Salecich, Teys
S/F- Blanchfield,Chittham
P/F- Motum, ????
C - Young , Crombie ????
Obviously a number of players can play a couple of positions Young i would prefer as a P/F but his experience will be needed in C where he plays for Aust and you have Motum there already ,Salecich can play from 1-3 which he has done for AIS & Aust and his defensive skills will be needed to shut down opposition scorers ,Page could always rotate through the S/G spot has a awesome 3 ball if the P/G can get him an open look and his capability to attack the basket from the 2 spot would be destructive .
Offense wont be the problem for this team any number of players can be destructive on their day ,but the biggest concern will be the defensive end and controlling the defensive boards where the team last year struggled with and were punished , gave the opposition to many second chances , and defensively need to step up as a team not rely on 2 or 3 players ,This said this team has promised so much but not delivered as yet lets hope with the talent this team has got that the boys put it together and finally achieve that elusive Gold Medal which they deserve ,but only as a team effort this will be achieved .
Obviously the biggest threat will be the Victorians very team oriantated and very diciplined defensively and offensively have the No 1&2 Rated players in Aust Delladova & Brockoff(sp) to lead them with some very talented role players Arnott ,Orr and a 7footer + in Vandaberg so are going to be a real threat and very prepared obviously will be ranked No1
Will be great advantage playing in your own State and even sweeter to win it at home ,will be a great Nationals so to all the boys that make this team good luck and make QLD proud !!
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06-10-08, 11:34
I think you will find that the actual team will not be named until The coach has his complete compliment of players available for at least a couple of training session over Xmas , When the AIS boys are back for their holidays , Even tho canot see any of them missing out just the right way to approach it , South will probably dominate the side as expected but there might be a couple of surprises from the North,
As i see it definates at the moment (My opinion only)!!!!
PG- Page,Heuir
SG- Salecich, Teys
S/F- Blanchfield,Chittham
P/F- Motum, ????
C - Young , Crombie ????
Obviously a number of players can play a couple of positions Young i would prefer as a P/F but his experience will be needed in C where he plays for Aust and you have Motum there already ,Salecich can play from 1-3 which he has done for AIS & Aust and his defensive skills will be needed to shut down opposition scorers ,Page could always rotate through the S/G spot has a awesome 3 ball if the P/G can get him an open look and his capability to attack the basket from the 2 spot would be destructive .
Offense wont be the problem for this team any number of players can be destructive on their day ,but the biggest concern will be the defensive end and controlling the defensive boards where the team last year struggled with and were punished , gave the opposition to many second chances , and defensively need to step up as a team not rely on 2 or 3 players ,This said this team has promised so much but not delivered as yet lets hope with the talent this team has got that the boys put it together and finally achieve that elusive Gold Medal which they deserve ,but only as a team effort this will be achieved .
Obviously the biggest threat will be the Victorians very team oriantated and very diciplined defensively and offensively have the No 1&2 Rated players in Aust Delladova & Brockoff(sp) to lead them with some very talented role players Arnott ,Orr and a 7footer + in Vandaberg so are going to be a real threat and very prepared obviously will be ranked No1
Will be great advantage playing in your own State and even sweeter to win it at home ,will be a great Nationals so to all the boys that make this team good luck and make QLD proud !!
My selections are exactly the same as yours with Jeromie Hill rounding off the team. To be honest this is not a hard team to pick, it pretty much picks itself.
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06-10-08, 14:19
Did Hodgson Bairstow or Lio-Willie try out?
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14-10-08, 17:29
I think you will find that the actual team will not be named until The coach has his complete compliment of players available for at least a couple of training session over Xmas , When the AIS boys are back for their holidays , Even tho canot see any of them missing out just the right way to approach it , South will probably dominate the side as expected but there might be a couple of surprises from the North,
As i see it definates at the moment (My opinion only)!!!!
PG- Page,Heuir
SG- Salecich, Teys
S/F- Blanchfield,Chittham
P/F- Motum, ????
C - Young , Crombie ????
Obviously a number of players can play a couple of positions Young i would prefer as a P/F but his experience will be needed in C where he plays for Aust and you have Motum there already ,Salecich can play from 1-3 which he has done for AIS & Aust and his defensive skills will be needed to shut down opposition scorers ,Page could always rotate through the S/G spot has a awesome 3 ball if the P/G can get him an open look and his capability to attack the basket from the 2 spot would be destructive .
Offense wont be the problem for this team any number of players can be destructive on their day ,but the biggest concern will be the defensive end and controlling the defensive boards where the team last year struggled with and were punished , gave the opposition to many second chances , and defensively need to step up as a team not rely on 2 or 3 players ,This said this team has promised so much but not delivered as yet lets hope with the talent this team has got that the boys put it together and finally achieve that elusive Gold Medal which they deserve ,but only as a team effort this will be achieved .
Obviously the biggest threat will be the Victorians very team oriantated and very diciplined defensively and offensively have the No 1&2 Rated players in Aust Delladova & Brockoff(sp) to lead them with some very talented role players Arnott ,Orr and a 7footer + in Vandaberg so are going to be a real threat and very prepared obviously will be ranked No1
Will be great advantage playing in your own State and even sweeter to win it at home ,will be a great Nationals so to all the boys that make this team good luck and make QLD proud !!
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You obviously know your stuff and have a high bball IQ.
My team is:
1-man: Page & Teys (I believe Teys is steadier than Heiur on the point and a better creator)
2-man: Saleich & Heuir ( I beleive Heiur is an athlete and a scorer/finisher more so than a creator - The guards in this team are "relatively" interchangable I know)
3-man: Motum & Blanchfield
4-man: Young & Hill (Both could swing into 5-man as well)
5-man: I don't think Qld really has any genuine centres that can stay on the floor at crunch time. I would break with tradition, throw in a couple of tall / athletic swing players that will give a decent X-factor on either end and design quick transition offenses / defenses to suit.
Swing-Man: A number of options really, but for example, if they trialled? - Harvey (6'9" & still growing/filling out athletic bottom ager from Mackay - Won Bronze at U/18 Nationals & could play 4 or 5 man) & Matthew Sturgeon (6'7" / 6'8" athletic bottom age swing man also from Mackay that could play 3 or 4 man. Also won Bronze at U/18 Nationals - College & NBL Scouts all over him at U18 Nationals in Ballarat & closely looked at for AIS).
If Frollings goes with a traditional line-up including a couple of 5-men / centres he will probably go with Crombie & big Matt from Brissie. I wouldn't pick them in my team however as I believe they won't handle it come crunch time but would do ok in the easier pool games.
I believe this is a big, fast, athletic, interchangable/flexible team complete with creators and finishers & also prepares a few of the boys for 2010. 4 x 6'9"s, 1 x 6'8", 1 x 6'7", 1 x 6'4", 1 x 6'3", 1 x 6'2", 1 x 6'0". I'd love to coach these boys for sure!
Dark Horses or possible inclusions for the team (but not my team) if they trialled? 2 of them maximum.
*** Anthony Olah
*** Nathan Crombie
** Michael Chitums
* Matthew ? (6'10" big from Brisbane)
* Steven Leo-Willie
* Cameron Bairstow
* Probably a lot of players also I don't know exist or have grown / developed big time in a small timeframe which happens at this age?
Thanks for checking out my team.
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15-10-08, 09:33
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You obviously know your stuff and have a high bball IQ.
My team is:
1-man: Page & Teys (I believe Teys is steadier than Heiur on the point and a better creator)
2-man: Saleich & Heuir ( I beleive Heiur is an athlete and a scorer/finisher more so than a creator - The guards in this team are "relatively" interchangable I know)
3-man: Motum & Blanchfield
4-man: Young & Hill (Both could swing into 5-man as well)
5-man: I don't think Qld really has any genuine centres that can stay on the floor at crunch time. I would break with tradition, throw in a couple of tall / athletic swing players that will give a decent X-factor on either end and design quick transition offenses / defenses to suit.
Swing-Man: A number of options really, but for example, if they trialled? - Harvey (6'9" & still growing/filling out athletic bottom ager from Mackay - Won Bronze at U/18 Nationals & could play 4 or 5 man) & Matthew Sturgeon (6'7" / 6'8" athletic bottom age swing man also from Mackay that could play 3 or 4 man. Also won Bronze at U/18 Nationals - College & NBL Scouts all over him at U18 Nationals in Ballarat & closely looked at for AIS).
If Frollings goes with a traditional line-up including a couple of 5-men / centres he will probably go with Crombie & big Matt from Brissie. I wouldn't pick them in my team however as I believe they won't handle it come crunch time but would do ok in the easier pool games.
I believe this is a big, fast, athletic, interchangable/flexible team complete with creators and finishers & also prepares a few of the boys for 2010. 4 x 6'9"s, 1 x 6'8", 1 x 6'7", 1 x 6'4", 1 x 6'3", 1 x 6'2", 1 x 6'0". I'd love to coach these boys for sure!
Dark Horses or possible inclusions for the team (but not my team) if they trialled? 2 of them maximum.
*** Anthony Olah
*** Nathan Crombie
** Michael Chitums
* Matthew ? (6'10" big from Brisbane)
* Steven Leo-Willie
* Cameron Bairstow
* Probably a lot of players also I don't know exist or have grown / developed big time in a small timeframe which happens at this age?
Thanks for checking out my team.
Correct Weight!!
Take Olah and Bairstow. Rarely are the 9/10th selections so important but in this team it is. Hodgson has talent but against Vandenburg and especially Harris-Tunks he might just be a year 'under-done'. Nathan has too short a wick to stay on the floor against especially Harris-Tunks (the master manipulator) and doesnt have the upper body strength to match either the NSW or Victorian posts. Bairstow however has that bulk and upper body thickness but with better foot speed and ability to play D up the floor. If Olah can accept that he would have a role (and not a starting one) on this team I'd definately throw him in for his athleticism and X factor. (+ speed and athleticism to match up Cody Ellis) He also brings up the floor defensive ability, a half decent perimeter shot and a couple of seasons ABA experience.
For sure many coaches salivating to coach this team but Shane has the credentials and ability and is by far the best choice.
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20-10-08, 12:24
My guess, for under 20 state team is
1. Jordan, Teys
2. Christian, Damon
3. Todd, Chitham
4. brock, Hill
5. Young, Another big either bearstow, crombie, or matt.
A big athletic team, with a lot of skill and cool heads. This team should be able to go one better and make the national final.
As it is also held in townsville this should be another advantage.
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30-10-08, 14:56
Can anyone confirm these College committments for the QLD boys at the AIS
Page - St Marys
Young - St Marys
Motum - Washington St
Salecich - St Louis (Majerus)
If these are true well done to the guys all good Colleges .
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03-11-08, 20:32
Yes these collages are correct.
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03-11-08, 22:55
Yes these collages are correct.
I do not believe Christian has committed to St. Louis, unless he has done that in the past few days. I hear he may Go pher a Big Ten School.....
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04-11-08, 14:35
I do not believe Christian has committed to St. Louis, unless he has done that in the past few days. I hear he may Go pher a Big Ten School.....
Who are the Big 10 Schools ?
If true i`m surprised someone of Majerus`s stature and coaching success have gone after Christian when you have players of the calibre of Page and Delladova in the guard spots that are better players
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07-11-08, 10:35
Who are the Big 10 Schools ?
If true i`m surprised someone of Majerus`s stature and coaching success have gone after Christian when you have players of the calibre of Page and Delladova in the guard spots that are better players
Surprised someone would come on and "confirm" where these players are going. Talking to Jord and Mitch and they arent even sure.
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07-11-08, 19:21
Surprised someone would come on and "confirm" where these players are going. Talking to Jord and Mitch and they arent even sure.
Heres confirmation on Brock Motums future. From cougfan.com
TONY BENNETT’S affinity for left-handers will grow by 6-feet-9-inches when basketball letters of intent are signed on Nov. 12, one week from today. The Land Down Under, which sent 6-10 Aron Baynes to WSU four years ago, will be exporting another tough-nosed big man to Cougarville in 2009. Brock Motum tells Cougfan.com Tony Bennett and the WSU staff made all the difference, and did so long ago.
"I'm looking forward to coming over to play there. I'm just excited about it. At the moment, I'm focusing on things down here but I'm really happy with my decision to come to Washington State," said Brock Motum, a 6-9, 215-pound power forward originally from Brisbane.
Like Aron Baynes, he verbally committed to the Cougs without visiting campus.
"It was just the way Tony Bennett coaches. He was the Coach of the Year and my style of play fit the way he coaches. It just seemed the right fit and it's the right sized college," said Motum.
Motum said the down to earth quality of the entire Wazzu coaching staff, and the success of Baynes, played a critical role.
"They just seemed really genuine in their interest. I know a lot of the other college coaches can seem genuine but the way they came across was they put my development first before their egos. Even though Tony got the National Coach of the Year I thought he was humble and, I don't know the right word -- professional -- about it. He really cares about his players and their development," said Motum.
"Aron, his success over there encouraged me as well...I had seen him (in Australia) and what he played like before he went over and now -- the way he's developed his game and the way he's playing now, it's impressive what he's done."
Also like Baynes, Motum's talents carried him to the Australian Institute of Sports, where he earned his league’s Player of the Year honors in the just-concluded season -- the previous year he took home a National Player of the Year award. This season, he averaged 15.8 points and 5.2 rebounds per game. He shot 57 percent from the field, and made 13 of 29 three-pointers.
Australia is no longer the hoops secret it once was, but Motum also didn't get the same number of looks playing Down Under he would have plying his wares in the U.S. And by the time he did start getting late looks, he had long since made the decision to go crimson -- Motum said he made up his mind a year and a half ago, in the summer of '07, that he would be headed to WSU. "I didn't want to make a big deal about it, just wanted to get the job done here before I focused on anything in the future."
Motum, who just turned 18, has outstanding athleticism and a great motor. The combination makes for a hard-nosed style and a nice shooting touch, and range.
Motum, who comes across on an international call as the consummate team player, one loathe to talk about his individual accomplishments, said his AIS coach is the reason he's the player he is today, and that he sees Bennett as someone who embodies the same qualities as Marty Clarke.
"Marty, he's the best coach I've ever had and he cares about your (basketball) development and how you develop as a person. He finds a way to balance it out really well...he doesn't want you to sort of get too far ahead of yourself," said Motum.
On his Australian Institute of Sports bio page, Motum states that his two major goals in sports are to represent Australia in the Olympics and to play in the NBA.
The numbers can and do change all the way up until Signing Day and basketball has two -- one on Nov. 12 and one later this spring. So Motum fills the fourth and possibly final scholarship slot for the 2009 recruiting class but until the LOI's come in next spring, you can't say with certainty that Bennett is done for '09. The other three spots in this class belong to 6-5 shooting guard Anthony Brown of Spokane’s Shadle Park; 6-3 Xavier Thames, the No. 19-ranked prep point guard in the nation, of Elk Grove, Calif.; and 6-8 forward David Chadwick of Charlotte, N.C.
All four are expected to ink letters of intent during the early signing period that
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09-11-08, 16:43
Who are the Big 10 Schools ?
If true i`m surprised someone of Majerus`s stature and coaching success have gone after Christian when you have players of the calibre of Page and Delladova in the guard spots that are better players
About Christian: you obviously havent seen him play recently and have little idea of how a coach puts together a team at that level. I have seen Christian play recently and although not starting for the AIS or Australia (usually) he contributes a skill set that surpasses some of the starters in specific areas. Coach Clarke utilises him to great effect in the team dynamic that brings results. The same way Coach Majuerus would do if he recruited him.
G.
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07-12-08, 20:52
Does anyone know who made the U20 Qld Womens team?
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07-12-08, 22:16
I would be putting in guys that have had success and experience at ABA level playing against men. Bairstow has made some contributions at Brisbane. Like your thoughts on going away from bigs especially if they become a liablity matching up. Not sure on bottom ages being able to contribute. What have they in the water in Mackay/ I think the fertilizer fom the cane farms has finally filtered down to your groud water :)
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08-12-08, 07:45
I would be putting in guys that have had success and experience at ABA level playing against men. Bairstow has made some contributions at Brisbane. Like your thoughts on going away from bigs especially if they become a liablity matching up. Not sure on bottom ages being able to contribute. What have they in the water in Mackay/ I think the fertilizer fom the cane farms has finally filtered down to your groud water :)
I think you will find that majority of the kids trying out are playing or have played in a mens competition ,be it SEABL or ABA
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08-12-08, 08:15
A bit off topic, but does anyone have (or know of anyone that does) a tape of the under 20 nationals game between QLD and Tasmania from earlier this year?
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08-12-08, 08:41
A bit off topic, but does anyone have (or know of anyone that does) a tape of the under 20 nationals game between QLD and Tasmania from earlier this year?
Who wants it and whats the contact no.?
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08-12-08, 08:42
I think you will find that majority of the kids trying out are playing or have played in a mens competition ,be it SEABL or ABA
and internationals in Italy Taiwan and against NZ. Most of them anyway.
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08-12-08, 15:54
Who wants it and whats the contact no.?
Hamish, played for tassie, living in QLD now. None of our guys taped it, been trying to track it down for a while. cONTACT: 0439542992 OR bowdenhamish@gmail.com cheers
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09-12-08, 06:30
The U20 women's team will be named after the camp next weekend
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09-12-08, 09:12
Hamish, played for tassie, living in QLD now. None of our guys taped it, been trying to track it down for a while. cONTACT: 0439542992 OR bowdenhamish@gmail.com cheers
Will hook up an old external hard drive that I saved that Championships to and see if I still have the Tassie game against Queensland. Pretty sure I still have Tassie v ACT as someone else needed a copy recently. Will give you a call when I know.
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11-12-08, 08:59
Will hook up an old external hard drive that I saved that Championships to and see if I still have the Tassie game against Queensland. Pretty sure I still have Tassie v ACT as someone else needed a copy recently. Will give you a call when I know.
Thanks, appreciate it....
A bit off topic, but does anyone have (or know of anyone that does) a tape of the under 20 nationals game between QLD and Tasmania from earlier this year?
I've got Tassie / WA if you want that!!
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15-12-08, 07:45
I've got Tassie / WA if you want that!!
Yeah that would be good. Just desperate for the Tassie/QLD one tho. It the only one i really did anything in ha ha
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15-12-08, 14:38
Qld U20 team named today, pretty predictable. Not sure why we are in December and just naming the team when the titles are in February.
Jordon Page
Damon Heuir
Brenden Teys
Christian Sal---
Todd Balnchfield
Cameron Bairstow
Gerome Hill
Brock Motum
Mitch Young
Mat Hodgson
Pretty talented team should scare the hell out of nationals but will have some serious opposition.
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15-12-08, 18:15
The QLD U20 state team 2009:
Jorden Page
Damon Heuir
Christian Salechich
Brendan Teys
Todd Blanchfield
Brock Motum
Mitchell Young
Nathan Crombie
Cameron Bairstow
Matt Hodgson
This was my team way back when, swap Hill for Crombie. It really wasn't that difficult.
Go Queensland!!
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19-12-08, 00:08
So is it hill or crombie in the team ?
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19-12-08, 07:17
So is it hill or crombie in the team ?
Hill
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26-12-08, 19:26
Hill's in he made it easy, it was a toss up between crombie, bearstow and hodges.
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20-01-09, 09:10
A few boys and myself while enjoying a couple of cold ales and delved into a discussion on our State teams especially the group of boys that will be representing QLD in a few weeks , the main discussion was why these group of talented young men have under achieved in previous tournaments , i mean lets be honest look at our talent that have played in a number of national tournys,
Teys
Page
Young
Saleich sp?
Motum
Not a group of boys to scoff at !!
Then you have
Blanchfield
Hill
Bairstow
Hodgson
Huer
,is it the type of ball they are playing ,preperation as a team,coaching ? any body have any thoughts on this and prediction on where they will finish.
We came up with the conclusion that this will be the year especially at home and if we can get the Towvsville basketball community to come out and support the boys it would be an absolute bonus for the boys .
By the way Congrats to Teys and Saleich this will be their 6th national representation for either Sth QLD or Qld which is a great achievement in its self ,can anyone remember who was the last player to achieve this we thought of Ahrens but not sure if he missed a U/20 due to injury
A few boys and myself while enjoying a couple of cold ales and delved into a discussion on our State teams especially the group of boys that will be representing QLD in a few weeks , the main discussion was why these group of talented young men have under achieved in previous tournaments , i mean lets be honest look at our talent that have played in a number of national tournys,
Teys
Page
Young
Saleich sp?
Motum
Not a group of boys to scoff at !!
Then you have
Blanchfield
Hill
Bairstow
Hodgson
Huer
,is it the type of ball they are playing ,preperation as a team,coaching ? any body have any thoughts on this and prediction on where they will finish.
We came up with the conclusion that this will be the year especially at home and if we can get the Towvsville basketball community to come out and support the boys it would be an absolute bonus for the boys .
By the way Congrats to Teys and Saleich this will be their 6th national representation for either Sth QLD or Qld which is a great achievement in its self ,can anyone remember who was the last player to achieve this we thought of Ahrens but not sure if he missed a U/20 due to injury
This is a damn good team on paper and quite capable of pulling it off. However as we have seen in past tournaments, it only takes one loss to slide from medal contention out of the placings. Boys will need to be mentally equipped and treat each game as a final. Perhaps more positive feedback on this site rather than some of the negative comments displayed against Qld teams in the past will put them in the right frame of mind and assist them in taking the gold.
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21-01-09, 08:42
A few boys and myself while enjoying a couple of cold ales and delved into a discussion on our State teams especially the group of boys that will be representing QLD in a few weeks , the main discussion was why these group of talented young men have under achieved in previous tournaments , i mean lets be honest look at our talent that have played in a number of national tournys,
Teys
Page
Young
Saleich sp?
Motum
Not a group of boys to scoff at !!
Then you have
Blanchfield
Hill
Bairstow
Hodgson
Huer
,is it the type of ball they are playing ,preperation as a team,coaching ? any body have any thoughts on this and prediction on where they will finish.
We came up with the conclusion that this will be the year especially at home and if we can get the Towvsville basketball community to come out and support the boys it would be an absolute bonus for the boys .
By the way Congrats to Teys and Saleich this will be their 6th national representation for either Sth QLD or Qld which is a great achievement in its self ,can anyone remember who was the last player to achieve this we thought of Ahrens but not sure if he missed a U/20 due to injury
Heard a quiet whisper last week that the boys are saying NOTHING about their chances and no way could you say they are in any way confident of winning it. Also heard they are fully frothin at the systems that Shane has devised for them and the opportunity to play for such a good coach who shows some respect and belief for their experience and abilities both individually and as a group.
Egos and resentments from kids (and parents) trying to use the team as a chance to further their individual cause to get 'noticed' could always be a potential problem with a unique group like this but another whisper is that Coach Frohling had this possibility well and truly negated from the outset.
Really hope Christain and Brendan score good college offers to add to their aready remarkable rep careers as they're both excellent players. The way the ESPN commentators are talking up some of these guys for next year I doubt the knockers on Bendoes would worry them too much...if they even read it.
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10-02-09, 12:38
Can any one verify that the U/20 Boys state team are playing the Spartans mens SEABL team tonight at Spartans and if so what time .
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10-02-09, 15:33
Can any one verify that the U/20 Boys state team are playing the Spartans mens SEABL team tonight at Spartans and if so what time .
yes, 6.40pm at carina
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11-02-09, 07:47
I hear the U/20 State boys knocked of Spartans by 14 last night ,
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11-02-09, 18:49
I hear the U/20 State boys knocked of Spartans by 14 last night ,
Coach Palmer ran defenses and offensive tempos according to the requests of Coach Froling for the boys to learn their stuff in the now 3 days till tournament time. Wouldnt be scrapping my Spartans season ticket just yet. Some pretty positive outcomes for the U/20's from the hit out but and every game is a huge bonus at this stage of preparation.
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12-02-09, 07:03
They only beat the clippers by 10
Hopefully the wake up call they needed
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12-02-09, 09:57
They only beat the clippers by 10
Hopefully the wake up call they needed
Had a solid session in the afternoon some beach time after and a huge feed of steak and Beryl's potato bake before the game. Didnt start Young and Motum. Ran the back pages of the play book that nobodies learned properly in the 5 sessions to date and had Clippers coach on hand at practice to see everything they would be running. The two referees realised it was a preparation game for Nationals (one of them will be reffing there) and helped by ironing out some wrinkles from their on-ball screening. Also realised the home crowd was up for a spectacle and sort of reffed accordingly. Mitch Young's crazy rebound dunk may have been called an offensive foul but was a lasting image for the spectators. That crazy guy who gets on the microphone and booms throughout time outs when there's a big speaker on the wall behind the visitors bench didnt help either. Not to say it wasnt an excellent exercise in adapting to changing conditions which is exactly what pre tournament team builders are all about.
Also not to say that the exceptional performances of young Isiah Tueta with his bag of points assists and defensive stops against his top age peers (he was injured through the trials process) and Lachlan Miller (the one whose ridicuously left handed and couldnt make last years 18's state team) didnt raise eyebrows amongst the coaching staff and interested onlookers! Allowing the Clips 22 first qtr points sets the emphasis for todays practice sessions.
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12-02-09, 12:26
Had a solid session in the afternoon some beach time after and a huge feed of steak and Beryl's potato bake before the game. Didnt start Young and Motum. Ran the back pages of the play book that nobodies learned properly in the 5 sessions to date and had Clippers coach on hand at practice to see everything they would be running. The two referees realised it was a preparation game for Nationals (one of them will be reffing there) and helped by ironing out some wrinkles from their on-ball screening. Also realised the home crowd was up for a spectacle and sort of reffed accordingly. Mitch Young's crazy rebound dunk may have been called an offensive foul but was a lasting image for the spectators. That crazy guy who gets on the microphone and booms throughout time outs when there's a big speaker on the wall behind the visitors bench didnt help either. Not to say it wasnt an excellent exercise in adapting to changing conditions which is exactly what pre tournament team builders are all about.
Also not to say that the exceptional performances of young Isiah Tueta with his bag of points assists and defensive stops against his top age peers (he was injured through the trials process) and Lachlan Miller (the one whose ridicuously left handed and couldnt make last years 18's state team) didnt raise eyebrows amongst the coaching staff and interested onlookers! Allowing the Clips 22 first qtr points sets the emphasis for todays practice sessions.
Not very wise to eat too much before a game, would expect a proffessional approach in that regard from both players and coaches at this level
Will likely be playing 2 games a day so a solid session is prudent and the team will be scouted by the enemy so having coach there makes perfect sense to provide a more realistic semblance of tournament play
Still a surprising result considering comparative talent levels and the clips recent history,
As the previous post suggested the clippers may have done the team a huge favor and who knows may be abe claim just a tiny bit of credit if these guys bring home the big prize
Sometimes a wake up call is exactly what the doctor would prescribe
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12-02-09, 14:35
Not very wise to eat too much before a game, would expect a proffessional approach in that regard from both players and coaches at this level
Will likely be playing 2 games a day so a solid session is prudent and the team will be scouted by the enemy so having coach there makes perfect sense to provide a more realistic semblance of tournament play
Still a surprising result considering comparative talent levels and the clips recent history,
As the previous post suggested the clippers may have done the team a huge favor and who knows may be abe claim just a tiny bit of credit if these guys bring home the big prize
Sometimes a wake up call is exactly what the doctor would prescribe
Definately the Clips played real well probably in no small part to the return to basketball of the Tuetas, Lachlan Miller McDermott this season. Shame they were unavailable last season when Red needed them. Taking nothing away from the exceptional effort of the Clips and just a left field personal thought but did it occur to you that (even though the commentator was raving like it was a National final or something) that just maybe the idea for the game wasnt about winning or losing whats a pre season game for both the Clips and the State team but simply a chance to blood bottom players into the starting 5 and run guys in different positions under different circumstances after a disjointed game preparation (and get home uninjured)?? These top notch coaches sometimes do weird stuff like that but yes for sure you would have provided a far more "professional" approach than Coach Froling and his team did.
(p.s. U/20's is made up of All State teams and because of the higher physicality level they only play one game per day...but wouldnt you know that? )
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12-02-09, 15:18
M'dor never even looked like winning, 20's were just trying out new things. They play spartians again tonight so i hear. Sould be another good game......
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12-02-09, 18:47
M'dor never even looked like winning, 20's were just trying out new things. They play spartians again tonight so i hear. Sould be another good game......
So do they charge entry to these games?
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12-02-09, 22:54
So do they charge entry to these games?
They arent so much games as practice scrimmages (even though some folks get a bit carried away about it all) But no certainly no charges involved.
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13-02-09, 15:51
How the game v districts go last night ?
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14-02-09, 08:11
come on how the game go just a result will do thanks
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14-02-09, 10:20
State team got up again - too quick for Spartans, who are going to miss Gibson and Goulding's penetration this year.
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15-02-09, 11:52
come on how the game go just a result will do thanks
Think you'll find everyones in Townsville. Probably forgotten about practice scrimmages by now.
Think you'll find everyones in Townsville. Probably forgotten about practice scrimmages by now.
Yep. Action has begun.
Qld have started with a win over ACT by 26 points. Play Tassie tonight and the Vics tomorrow!
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16-02-09, 12:54
Just checked the stats from the mens win yesterday, and besides Brock and Mitch (21/23 between them!!!) it looks like the rest of the team really struggled shooting the ball. 0/17 on 3s by the four guards just isn't going to get it done against the better teams. Hopefully it was just one of those off games...
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16-02-09, 16:33
Just checked the stats from the mens win yesterday, and besides Brock and Mitch (21/23 between them!!!) it looks like the rest of the team really struggled shooting the ball. 0/17 on 3s by the four guards just isn't going to get it done against the better teams. Hopefully it was just one of those off games...
Nup. QLD played all their guards starters and all all game played all their offenses and defenses despite having 5 cameras scouting them and just generally are no good. Will be lucky to beat Samoa. The stats tell it all and copies hand delivered to the Vics hotel.
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16-02-09, 17:48
Nup. QLD played all their guards starters and all all game played all their offenses and defenses despite having 5 cameras scouting them and just generally are no good. Will be lucky to beat Samoa. The stats tell it all and copies hand delivered to the Vics hotel.
i heard the floor wipers were really good though
Qld shooting a bit better 60% from the field 1/2 way through 2nd quarter. 31 points up. We'' see how they finish up.
Qld shooting a bit better 60% from the field 1/2 way through 2nd quarter. 31 points up. We'll see how they finish up.
Qld ran out winners 132 to 64. Vics beat them 125-54. Bring on the Vics tomorrow!
Qld ran out winners 132 to 64. Vics beat them 125-54. Bring on the Vics tomorrow!
Qld have just dispatched the Vics 102-77. 3-zip, top of their pool. Let's hope they can maintain the momentum for the remaining games.
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17-02-09, 21:13
Nup. QLD played all their guards starters and all all game played all their offenses and defenses despite having 5 cameras scouting them and just generally are no good. Will be lucky to beat Samoa. The stats tell it all and copies hand delivered to the Vics hotel.
I assume you feel pretty silly after a one game statement like that seeing how Qld just torched Vic by 25. You want to reaccess?
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18-02-09, 08:36
I assume you feel pretty silly after a one game statement like that seeing how Qld just torched Vic by 25. You want to reaccess?
Nope. QLD still no good. Those stats only look good because the QLD kids Mums are doing them and they only won because of the Maroochydore referees!
...nah seriously, the "pretty silly" tag belongs solely to you for not realising the sarcasm in the other post and this one.
Maybe the person who wrote the whining snipy little piece about the guards stats after the first game might be feeling a bit silly too...(but probably dont have the Basketball IQ to see past their own self interest)
Long way to go and SA and NSW are tough plus Victoria wont take that drubbing lying down but QLD were devastating last night. Nothing less than the National title will silence those losers who rate this group as overrated but man that game last night was just a sensational display of this groups real ability.
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18-02-09, 08:47
i heard the floor wipers were really good though
Floorwiper pretty good (but bit past his use-by date) and the endless supply of cuddly soft fresh towels and water even better. Heard some floorwiper was raising his mop at Mitchell Young at training....but could have been mistaken.
Nope. QLD still no good. Those stats only look good because the QLD kids Mums are doing them and they only won because of the Maroochydore referees!
...nah seriously, the "pretty silly" tag belongs solely to you for not realising the sarcasm in the other post and this one.
Maybe the person who wrote the whining snipy little piece about the guards stats after the first game might be feeling a bit silly too...(but probably dont have the Basketball IQ to see past their own self interest)
Long way to go and SA and NSW are tough plus Victoria wont take that drubbing lying down but QLD were devastating last night. Nothing less than the National title will silence those losers who rate this group as overrated but man that game last night was just a sensational display of this groups real ability.
Qld need to account for Oceania and then move on to a semi final meeting with the WA/ACT winner.. Then straight onto the Final! Critical to finish top of pool. Vics have to bash it out with SA and then probably meet NSW (who should account for tassie) to get to the final.
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18-02-09, 12:44
Qld kids definitley handed it to us last night, no issues there. The overrated tag comes from years of having and showing that potential and that type of game during the tournament and falling short at the end of the week.
It is a lot of pressure to have but you are correct, nothing short of winning it will silence any doubters, welcome to the world of Vic metro regardless of the talent you have.
Hopefully the two meet in the big one and set up a cracker of a final game. Can Qld, shoot that well again, can Victoria come back mentally ???
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18-02-09, 13:01
Nope. QLD still no good. Those stats only look good because the QLD kids Mums are doing them and they only won because of the Maroochydore referees!
...nah seriously, the "pretty silly" tag belongs solely to you for not realising the sarcasm in the other post and this one.
Maybe the person who wrote the whining snipy little piece about the guards stats after the first game might be feeling a bit silly too...(but probably dont have the Basketball IQ to see past their own self interest)
Long way to go and SA and NSW are tough plus Victoria wont take that drubbing lying down but QLD were devastating last night. Nothing less than the National title will silence those losers who rate this group as overrated but man that game last night was just a sensational display of this groups real ability.
Haha, hit a nerve there did I champ? It was is on the boxscore, it was awful, and I felt it warranted a mention. No whining or sniping, just the facts. BTW, your message-board psychological analysis is about as accurate as your 'sarcastic' prediction, so maybe keep it to yourself next time.
Anyway, glad to see they more than made up for it last night! Hopefully the boys can keep it rolling all the way to Saturday.
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18-02-09, 15:50
Haha, hit a nerve there did I champ? It was is on the boxscore, it was awful, and I felt it warranted a mention. No whining or sniping, just the facts. BTW, your message-board psychological analysis is about as accurate as your 'sarcastic' prediction, so maybe keep it to yourself next time.
Anyway, glad to see they more than made up for it last night! Hopefully the boys can keep it rolling all the way to Saturday.
Huh??? No nerves to hit mate. Dont take much notice of boxscores or stats as theres so much more to learn from watching the game (if you know what your looking at). Not sure just where your coming from but dont think anything about the first game boxscores or otherwise rated even a second thought let alone a mention in the teams minds anyway. Bit more focused on last nights encounter and the rest of the week.
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18-02-09, 16:48
Huh??? No nerves to hit mate. Dont take much notice of boxscores or stats as theres so much more to learn from watching the game (if you know what your looking at). Not sure just where your coming from but dont think anything about the first game boxscores or otherwise rated even a second thought let alone a mention in the teams minds anyway. Bit more focused on last nights encounter and the rest of the week.
Seriously, stop trying to convince yourself I don't know basketball and just accept that they had a bad night. Granted, on-ball defence, the use and setting of screens, ball-movement, communication, hussle, body-language and a myriad of other influential factors don't show up on the boxscore. But 0/17 shooting is 0/17 shooting my friend, whether you're in the stands watching or not. If Bruton, Mills, Ingles and Newley shot that badly in a win against, say, Angola, you don't think that is worth a "damn, I hope that doesn't happen when we play Russia next game" comment?
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18-02-09, 16:59
Seriously, stop trying to convince yourself I don't know basketball and just accept that they had a bad night. Granted, on-ball defence, the use and setting of screens, ball-movement, communication, hussle, body-language and a myriad of other influential factors don't show up on the boxscore. But 0/17 shooting is 0/17 shooting my friend, whether you're in the stands watching or not. If Bruton, Mills, Ingles and Newley shot that badly in a win against, say, Angola, you don't think that is worth a "damn, I hope that doesn't happen when we play Russia next game" comment?
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ahh does anyone give a shite what this guy has to say!
QLD just beat VIC by 25 points. VICTORIA!
25 points beating over VIC or some sill shooting first game?
Shoooosh Bud
Lets Play!
loved the alley from Blanch to Hill, made the game ;)
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18-02-09, 17:01
i heard the floor wipers were really good though
i heard the floorwipers did a really good job getting in vics heads last night when htey lost by 25 to qld!
keep it up :P
i heard the floor wipers were really good though
i heard the floorwipers did a really good job getting in vics heads last night when they lost by 25 to qld!
trashin em all night!
keep it up :P
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ahh does anyone give a shite what this guy has to say!
QLD just beat VIC by 25 points. VICTORIA!
25 points beating over VIC or some sill shooting first game?
Shoooosh Bud
Lets Play!
loved the alley from Blanch to Hill, made the game ;)
Agree! There's no pleasing some people. Fact is the team are in with a damn good chance to pull off the title and we should be getting behind them 100%.
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19-02-09, 08:31
Agree! There's no pleasing some people. Fact is the team are in with a damn good chance to pull off the title and we should be getting behind them 100%.
Believe me, I'm rooting for them as much as anybody. My only beef was with old mates "ur dum and ignant and u wazant eben der so u carnt say nuffing" spaz attack reply to a harmless devils-advocate observation. But I guess I should have heeded the warning: Never argue with an idiot, they only bring you down to their level then beat you with experience. So moving right along...
The boys should obviously do it easy against Oceania tonight, but can one of the other 3 underdogs pull off an upset? Is there any real chance we don't end up with a QLD v VIC rematch in the final?
Believe me, I'm rooting for them as much as anybody. My only beef was with old mates "ur dum and ignant and u wazant eben der so u carnt say nuffing" spaz attack reply to a harmless devils-advocate observation. But I guess I should have heeded the warning: Never argue with an idiot, they only bring you down to their level then beat you with experience. So moving right along...
The boys should obviously do it easy against Oceania tonight, but can one of the other 3 underdogs pull off an upset? Is there any real chance we don't end up with a QLD v VIC rematch in the final?
I'd say a very strong chance of a Qld/Vic rematch. But it's all sudden death now and anything can happen. Go Qld!
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19-02-09, 10:18
Seriously, stop trying to convince yourself I don't know basketball and just accept that they had a bad night. Granted, on-ball defence, the use and setting of screens, ball-movement, communication, hussle, body-language and a myriad of other influential factors don't show up on the boxscore. But 0/17 shooting is 0/17 shooting my friend, whether you're in the stands watching or not. If Bruton, Mills, Ingles and Newley shot that badly in a win against, say, Angola, you don't think that is worth a "damn, I hope that doesn't happen when we play Russia next game" comment?
Dont think anyone would have to try real hard to convince themselves of that you do such a good job of confirming it yourself..nice collection of basketball cliques and terms you got there but. sounds like your practicing to talk a good game one day. If Bruton Mills Inglis and Newley shot that "badly" in a game with no preparation where coach and team were trying to stay under the radar where they ran none of their plays and the only focus was to win the game but show nothing and get home uninjured then I'd say they succeeded and look forward to which ever game it was when they would be coming to play.
p.s. and if they didnt get it done that time I'd replace them with Page Salecich Teys and Heuer lol!
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19-02-09, 13:52
Dont think anyone would have to try real hard to convince themselves of that you do such a good job of confirming it yourself..nice collection of basketball cliques and terms you got there but. sounds like your practicing to talk a good game one day. If Bruton Mills Inglis and Newley shot that "badly" in a game with no preparation where coach and team were trying to stay under the radar where they ran none of their plays and the only focus was to win the game but show nothing and get home uninjured then I'd say they succeeded and look forward to which ever game it was when they would be coming to play.
p.s. and if they didnt get it done that time I'd replace them with Page Salecich Teys and Heuer lol!
Oh, of course! Why didn't you just explain it that way to me earlier? I mean, I can see the pre-game huddle now. "Look fellas, even though most of you are at the AIS and everyone in the country knows how good you are, we're going to try and stay under the radar. So you guards, the game-plan for today is to miss every 3 you take, OK?"
I submit, you win. You can move on now.
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19-02-09, 14:32
Oh, of course! Why didn't you just explain it that way to me earlier? I mean, I can see the pre-game huddle now. "Look fellas, even though most of you are at the AIS and everyone in the country knows how good you are, we're going to try and stay under the radar. So you guards, the game-plan for today is to miss every 3 you take, OK?"
I submit, you win. You can move on now.
Thank F%#@ for that!
Talking of devil's advocate...does anyone remember the Canberra 16's when this year/group (though the faces have dramatically changed) gave Victoria Metro a touch up in the round game and WA gave Vic Country the same treatment only to have Vic Country dispose of QLD in the crossovers and Vic Metro beat WA the same day which saw those bloody Vics play each other in the final?! ...or a couple of years ago at the 20's when Victoria looked like beating everybody by 20+ and were in fact about that in front with 8 minutes to go against ACT having done an exceptional job of containing Patty Mills scoring when suddenly Patty went on an assists and scoring rampage and beat the Vics by a point or so to see them out of contention? (Got reminded of these by one of the Vics coaches over a few last night and they certainly arent fazed by QLDs display the other night) Hoping and thinking the QLD boys are a bit mentally tougher this time around though. Plenty of high profile College Coaches in town for the tournament too and all kids from every State who are lucky enough to make it here are playing at the max.
It's an exceptional tournament the 20's for the standard of athletes and coaching and indeed anything can happen. Well worth the price of admission.
Oh, of course! Why didn't you just explain it that way to me earlier? I mean, I can see the pre-game huddle now. "Look fellas, even though most of you are at the AIS and everyone in the country knows how good you are, we're going to try and stay under the radar. So you guards, the game-plan for today is to miss every 3 you take, OK?"
I submit, you win. You can move on now.
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YEA!! Let's play ball! WA appear to be well in control of ACT with 5 minutes to go. Set's showndown for a QLD/WA semifinal, after Qld account for Oceania tonight.
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19-02-09, 15:12
Can anyone give anymore information on why the girls have done so poorly. Hopefully they can bounce back and cause the shock of the tournament by beating the Vics (very wishful thinking).
Any reasoning for only scrapping over the ACT and then getting smacked by both Tassie and New South?
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YEA!! Let's play ball! WA appear to be well in control of ACT with 5 minutes to go. Set's showndown for a QLD/WA semifinal, after Qld account for Oceania tonight.
WA womped ACT by over 40. Vics in control over SA at half way point shooting at 50% for field goals and 100% for threes. Up 24 points! Never right off the Vics! WA won't be a push over either!
Qld up by a motsa over Oceania at 3/4 time and will play WA in the semis. The big V to take on NSW in the other semi. Time to play real ball!
Qld up by a motsa over Oceania at 3/4 time and will play WA in the semis. The big V to take on NSW in the other semi. Time to play real ball!
NSW have put the Vics out of the running and are into the Grand Final. Time for the Qld boys to step up and account for WA.
NSW have put the Vics out of the running and are into the Grand Final. Time for the Qld boys to step up and account for WA.
Qld have beaten WA. GRAND FINAL time against NSW tomorrow. Go QLD.
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20-02-09, 21:25
Thats What Im Talking Bout Qld!
Thats The Shit Im Talking Bout!
Go Get Em Boys!
We Got Your Back!
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20-02-09, 21:28
NSW have put the Vics out of the running and are into the Grand Final. Time for the Qld boys to step up and account for WA.
That was one hell of a physical match!
Well played by both sides (Y)
Go Qld!
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21-02-09, 01:06
NSW have put the Vics out of the running and are into the Grand Final. Time for the Qld boys to step up and account for WA.
Some thought a turn up for the books but not really surprising when you have a look at the matchups on paper in retrospect. Victoria did what they are famous for and made a few good runs at them. NSW looked gone when Harris-Tunks retired hurt (ankle) but the kid Cadee is the real deal. Very exciting very talented and athletic and more confidence than a rat with a gold tooth. Pulls off amazing stuff and makes it look easy. Mullan from NSW was easy their strongest worker and impressed the hell out of the College coaches sitting next to us. Just steady as a rock and always seemed to be where he needed to come up with the ball or nail the big shot. Bradley Simpson stepped up and the NSW guards did an excellent job of containing Delladovas dribble penetration. Very smart win.
QLD not as stylish as against VIC the other night but somehow found the way to win in the end. Salecich lead just about everything and was in everything all night. Teys was brilliant in spots Young in spots (despite some heavy inside treatment) Motum in spots (when the refs left him alone) Hill was huge and Page found what they needed down the stretch. Noone had a blinder all night except Christian maybe but great that they all found what was needed when needed to come away with the win. Ryan Godfrey and Cody Ellis from WA all class and their whole team played a part in a game that was closer than the score suggests.
Just wish we had some sort of domestic league where these guys could regularly play in front of Australian crowds. The standard is so high and the games so intense and high quality that it would be a sponsors dream to have their product or service associated with Basketball of this level. Definately worth the price of admission.
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21-02-09, 02:00
Some thought a turn up for the books but not really surprising when you have a look at the matchups on paper in retrospect. Victoria did what they are famous for and made a few good runs at them. NSW looked gone when Harris-Tunks retired hurt (ankle) but the kid Cadee is the real deal. Very exciting very talented and athletic and more confidence than a rat with a gold tooth. Pulls off amazing stuff and makes it look easy. Mullan from NSW was easy their strongest worker and impressed the hell out of the College coaches sitting next to us. Just steady as a rock and always seemed to be where he needed to come up with the ball or nail the big shot. Bradley Simpson stepped up and the NSW guards did an excellent job of containing Delladovas dribble penetration. Very smart win.
QLD not as stylish as against VIC the other night but somehow found the way to win in the end. Salecich lead just about everything and was in everything all night. Teys was brilliant in spots Young in spots (despite some heavy inside treatment) Motum in spots (when the refs left him alone) Hill was huge and Page found what they needed down the stretch. Noone had a blinder all night except Christian maybe but great that they all found what was needed when needed to come away with the win. Ryan Godfrey and Cody Ellis from WA all class and their whole team played a part in a game that was closer than the score suggests.
Just wish we had some sort of domestic league where these guys could regularly play in front of Australian crowds. The standard is so high and the games so intense and high quality that it would be a sponsors dream to have their product or service associated with Basketball of this level. Definately worth the price of admission.
Qld in the final which is great. One out basketball all game is the the only reason this game was close. Obviously passing or team basketball is not a skill encouraged by the AIS. All I saw especially in the last quater was jordan page v world. The other four guys on the court may as well have been sitting in the stands. This is an extremely talented group, bench included, but all I saw was selfishness which kept WA close. We are far and away the most talented group here and they can all play 1 through 10 but I am afraid that now we have come to the the money time it is the fab 4 plus teys and hill & F--k everyone else. Qld will win this on shear talent not because of anything else.
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21-02-09, 13:44
Hand it to the Qld kids and the NSW kids, they beat us fair and square no pissing or excuses here. Vics still coached very well and those boys have been very good for many years and will have some very good games left in them.
As for Cadee, he has been on the receiving end of some very good Vic wins and he had his time in the sun last night, credit to him he is a good kid and can flat out score.
As for the Qld boys, another big game and another chance to put behind them years of falling short. They have been the best team all week and sounds like the game will be a very good one.
Match ups will be great to watch, and if the refs do not make it about them, should be a great game.
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21-02-09, 20:24
Woooot! Well Done Boys!!!
Woooot! Well Done Boys!!!
Congratulations QLd!!! Done in convincing style. Where are the knockers now!!
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21-02-09, 22:29
Hand it to the Qld kids and the NSW kids, they beat us fair and square no pissing or excuses here. Vics still coached very well and those boys have been very good for many years and will have some very good games left in them.
As for Cadee, he has been on the receiving end of some very good Vic wins and he had his time in the sun last night, credit to him he is a good kid and can flat out score.
As for the Qld boys, another big game and another chance to put behind them years of falling short. They have been the best team all week and sounds like the game will be a very good one.
Match ups will be great to watch, and if the refs do not make it about them, should be a great game.
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No one can stop them, not vics, not wa, not tassie (obviously) and definatly NOT NSW!
You boys played awesome all week and made being part of QLD basketball proud!
Congrats to J.P on getting player of the tournment, you got a huge future!
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21-02-09, 22:31
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22-02-09, 01:41
Qld in the final which is great. One out basketball all game is the the only reason this game was close. Obviously passing or team basketball is not a skill encouraged by the AIS. All I saw especially in the last quater was jordan page v world. The other four guys on the court may as well have been sitting in the stands. This is an extremely talented group, bench included, but all I saw was selfishness which kept WA close. We are far and away the most talented group here and they can all play 1 through 10 but I am afraid that now we have come to the the money time it is the fab 4 plus teys and hill & F--k everyone else. Qld will win this on shear talent not because of anything else.
Hey I know who you are and your a sorry ass parent. Kiss my ass as the fab 4 and the team played as a team and won. Where were you in the team celebrations?? Doing your own northern thing!! Selfish scrubs.
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22-02-09, 05:23
salich is still working on his shot!
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22-02-09, 07:49
Saw the game Queensland way to good.I did think Brock was the stand out,they couldn't match up when he played the three.Christian looked like he was a bit lost in that spot but the bench i thought were unreal every one did something towards the win.Some kids with big things ahead.
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22-02-09, 09:26
salich is still working on his shot!
Christian so flu ridden he lucky to play. Lucky for us he did. A real "Captain's Knock".
Just think people dont understand the defensive excellence and intensity at this level. If you ever played this comp you would know just how hard it is to even get a good shot off.
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22-02-09, 10:28
Christian so flu ridden he lucky to play. Lucky for us he did. A real "Captain's Knock".
Just think people dont understand the defensive excellence and intensity at this level. If you ever played this comp you would know just how hard it is to even get a good shot off.
So true, he may not have stood out offensivly but without him there whole teams defensive intesity wouldnt be the same. He played awesome all week and was a true leader along with Jordan.
The comp was the best standard of national ball I have ever watched and qld really pulled somthing special off.
They would have to be the best state team of all age groups we have ever seen!
Big future ahead for everyone of them.
Thanks for the memories boys!
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22-02-09, 14:11
salich is still working on his shot!
I have been one of the many knockers of Christian especially when you follow the stats .but this kid is special ,his work ethic in defense and finding the open man was superb , his defense on Cadee before half time and after half time was special stiffled the NSW offense took a huge charge under the basket and ran his arse off all night and carrying a big dose of the flue , looked very tired and sore in the second half , after watching him this week and not looking at the stats or how many shots he missed he is a great talent and when his shots do drop he will be a complete baller. and the QLD team definately a special bunch of talented boys, Page was awesome played a true team game took his opportunities when they presented themselves and shot well .Motum ,Young were brilliant in the paint and are going to go onto bigger things in basketball. Teys solid as usual .
For the haters if you look at the stats QLD had 3 players in the top 5 for assist which shows it was a huge team effort well done boys ,
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22-02-09, 16:33
I have been one of the many knockers of Christian especially when you follow the stats .but this kid is special ,his work ethic in defense and finding the open man was superb , his defense on Cadee before half time and after half time was special stiffled the NSW offense took a huge charge under the basket and ran his arse off all night and carrying a big dose of the flue , looked very tired and sore in the second half , after watching him this week and not looking at the stats or how many shots he missed he is a great talent and when his shots do drop he will be a complete baller. and the QLD team definately a special bunch of talented boys, Page was awesome played a true team game took his opportunities when they presented themselves and shot well .Motum ,Young were brilliant in the paint and are going to go onto bigger things in basketball. Teys solid as usual .
For the haters if you look at the stats QLD had 3 players in the top 5 for assist which shows it was a huge team effort well done boys ,
I was probly an even bigger knocker of some of Christians churlish behaviour early in his career (but never EVER said the guy couldnt play) but since the Oceania tournament in Adelaide last year where he comprehensively established himself as the defensive spe^^^^^^t of the AIS crop his natural offensive game flourished again this week under Coach Froling and with this group of guys. Got sicker as the week went on couldnt breath during the semi where he nailed some game turners and came up with big stops plus provided a solid steadying influence in keeping the team fully focused all week. Great choice as Co-Captain and performed this duty with excellence as well. But it wasnt just about Christian, Jord, Mitch, Brockum, Teys or any one or group in particular. It was about the way each and everyone of these guys subbed seamlessly into the game and were immediately on the same page as whatever was going on at the time. Everyone was able to add their special skill set to what was an amazing Nationals performance.
Big Joe (being Big Joe) went ahead and secretly had a set of "QLD 2009 National Champs" caps made up obviously before the tournament. One of the Vic parents commented to him that it "was a big arrogant wasnt it?!?!" (Wont say what he replied) but then heard this morning at the airport that the Vic boys delayed their departure till Monday in order to spend today on Maggie Island celebrating the Nationals victory ?!?! Arrogance?!
Must confess I noticed a nag running in Brisbane yesterday call "Striking Victory" Yep, put a decent bet on it BEFORE the final ...It won and paid $31 the win!
No money could replace the feeling in the QLD camp after this Nationals but. 2005 was an emphatic win for QLD and awesome but there was just so much more "feeling" in this one after all the background of the years leading up to it. The next Nationals will seem ho-hum after this one.
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22-02-09, 17:39
can anyone tell me where those stats are on the nats website? tried to find them but only found the one with all players listed. by the time you get to the end of it, you forgotten what numbers your looking at.
can anyone tell me where those stats are on the nats website? tried to find them but only found the one with all players listed. by the time you get to the end of it, you forgotten what numbers your looking at.
From the following site
http://www.nationals.basketball.net.au/
Go to the first tag, "Live Stats". from there click on the game you want to review.
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22-02-09, 21:44
Hey I know who you are and your a sorry ass parent. Kiss my ass as the fab 4 and the team played as a team and won. Where were you in the team celebrations?? Doing your own northern thing!! Selfish scrubs.
Theres about 50 people wanted to say that (Northerners included!) but didnt for the good of the team. But now it's said it's like a mystery novel trying to work out who it was that answered her ???????
F*%$in' GOLD anyway!
Hoi! whens the DVD set of the best Basketball played in the Country recently going on sale in all good video outlets and selected bookstores??? No disrespect to the old blokes shufflin' round in the NBL but these ones wont have Carfino twangin' on in yank while your trying to watch the game.
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23-02-09, 19:33
that was the best quality BASKETBALL I have seen in a very long time
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23-02-09, 20:07
that was the best quality BASKETBALL I have seen in a very long time
Quite a few hundred people would agree with you there.
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24-02-09, 14:10
Congratulation boys Great win with some AWESOME basketball '
Majority of these boys have taken a bagging in recent years individualy and as a team , What a way to stick it to those critics im sure some those baggers have not even congratulated the boys , but im sure if the boys did not succeed those same morons would have been on hear having their 2cents worth ,
Congrats to Jorden on his MVP so deserved ,
Many great performances during the week the whole team was great
QUEENSLANDER !!!!
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24-02-09, 20:28
Qld in the final which is great. One out basketball all game is the the only reason this game was close. Obviously passing or team basketball is not a skill encouraged by the AIS. All I saw especially in the last quater was jordan page v world. The other four guys on the court may as well have been sitting in the stands. This is an extremely talented group, bench included, but all I saw was selfishness which kept WA close. We are far and away the most talented group here and they can all play 1 through 10 but I am afraid that now we have come to the the money time it is the fab 4 plus teys and hill & F--k everyone else. Qld will win this on shear talent not because of anything else.
Sorry cant agree with you there. Your obviously a newcomer and dont know that this group has had as much and more talent before than this year. (Adelaide in 2006-Tasmania in 2007-Albury in 2008) The different thing they did have this year however was Shane Froling Dwight Hicks Mick Conlon and Kath Reardon. A coaching/management team who were completely transparent throughout the selections and up front with everybody before hand as to what their roles and court time might likely be and a coaching team that a) know their basketballball b) know how to inspire young athletes to believe in them and play for them c) know how to coach a team to play for Queensland...not themselves.
Strong emphasis in the team on players following instructions playing as a team on and off the court and making their teammates better. If anybody had done the things you have alleged here they would have been buried so far down the bench we wouldnt have seen them all tournament. I know if I was any U/20 basketballer in this country I would have felt privledged to be selected to a team containing the the cream of talent like the "Fab4" and guys like Teys and Hill and stoked that I got to share in a Gold Medal at an Australian U/20's Championships with them.
Maybe some of us see 'ball through different agendas?
2009 Emus U19 squad announced which includes 7 Queenslanders. Well done!!
Cameron BAIRSTOW, Jeromie HILL,Matthew HODGSON, Brock MOTUM, Jorden PAGE, Christian SALECICH,Mitchell YOUNG
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25-02-09, 17:26
2009 Emus U19 squad announced which includes 7 Queenslanders. Well done!!
Cameron BAIRSTOW, Jeromie HILL,Matthew HODGSON, Brock MOTUM, Jorden PAGE, Christian SALECICH,Mitchell YOUNG
Not surprising after their performances recently. Hill has improved out of sight as has Hodgson and Bairstow. Enough been said about the "Fab 4".
Be awesome if they all can make the final team.
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25-02-09, 21:10
2009 Emus U19 squad announced which includes 7 Queenslanders. Well done!!
Cameron BAIRSTOW, Jeromie HILL,Matthew HODGSON, Brock MOTUM, Jorden PAGE, Christian SALECICH,Mitchell YOUNG
Well done boys, well deserved! Looking at the rest of the squad though, Teys and Blanchfield should consider themselves very unlucky.
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26-02-09, 11:25
Well done boys, well deserved! Looking at the rest of the squad though, Teys and Blanchfield should consider themselves very unlucky.
Definately! Brendan is unlucky to be in the mix with such an exceptional crop of guards although he more than held his own and excelled in all areas in Nationals competition. (Sumthin to do with wearin a QLD jersey??) Todd sort of took himself out of the mix from what I can gather. Country kid with strong family ties and other facets to his life. Dont know if he's going to college but even if he doesnt expect he'll pop up in the NBL sometime soon. Teys too hopefully.
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27-02-09, 12:47
Queensland National Champions - How good is that!!!!
The spreads were even better 25 v Vic and 39 v NSW!!! What were they running? any ideas of sets?
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16-03-09, 13:58
Any news on who made the next cut for the U20 Oz squad?
Is this what you're after? (I can never remember how to work out what age group people belong to etc)..
http://www.basketball.net.au/FS_extra.asp?id=28719&OrgID=1
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16-03-09, 15:40
Is this what you're after? (I can never remember how to work out what age group people belong to etc)..
http://www.basketball.net.au/FS_extra.asp?id=28719&OrgID=1
Heard there were some outstanding performances and nobody is a certainty.
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08-05-09, 18:29
Five Queensland lads grew funny feathers and turned into Emus today.
Christian Mitch Brockum Matty Hodgson and Jord all got the nod after a pretty intense selection camp. Playing 5 quarter games against a handpicked NBL side over three nights gave a pretty good indication of who can do what apparently.
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08-05-09, 19:49
Five Queensland lads grew funny feathers and turned into Emus today.
Christian Mitch Brockum Matty Hodgson and Jord all got the nod after a pretty intense selection camp. Playing 5 quarter games against a handpicked NBL side over three nights gave a pretty good indication of who can do what apparently.
And who was in this handpicked NBL side? Sounds like they ran a fair bit.
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09-05-09, 10:23
And who was in this handpicked NBL side? Sounds like they ran a fair bit.
Bit hard getting info out of modest teenagers but Gibbo and (think) Tragagh were mentioned. Since they flew them in for it would assume Marty picked players of similar size and style of what he expects to encounter in Auckland. Maybe some Boomers future development prospects also now Martys involved there? Didnt know the full Emus team at the time and keen to see who else made it.
Judging from U/20 Nats alone my guesses
Cadee NSW
Mullan NSW
Ellis WA
Godfrey WA
Dellevadova VIC
Broekhoff VIC
Arnott VIC
maybe
Van den Burgh VIC
Simpson NSW
Greenwood TAS
???
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09-05-09, 17:40
so the emu's team has been officially named?
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09-05-09, 19:49
so the emu's team has been officially named?
Players have had their one on one interviews with Marty and told they are in or what to work on. Dont know if that counts as official or not. Pretty sure youd think.
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