View Full Version : Brisbane Bullets re-entry
Figured I'd start this thread as the hopes of Brisbane re-joining the NBL gains momentum.
Haven't heard anything solid, but talk certainly seems positive of Brisbane coming back in next season thanks to that awesome Fox deal. Supposedly anyone who can meet certain criteria is in the comp. However a few media outlets seem behind, and are reporting that only 8 teams will be in next season, with only 3 of those from QLD. Can anybody comment further.
Here's a standard press release anyways from BQ.
Brisbane NBL Back ON Board; an initiative developed by Basketball Queensland has been further encouraged by positive outcomes in a recent meeting.
The meeting of the Basketball Queensland initiated working party which met on Wednesday evening has confirmed support for re-establishing an NBL team in Brisbane.
Chairman of Basketball Queensland, Neil Fitzpatrick said, Basketball Queensland was heartened by the support from key business leaders who indicated considerable confidence that a team could be put on the floor if NBL licensing agreement issues can be resolved quickly.
”‘whilst we have a business and marketing plans and several budget options ready to go, we still need to clarify some issues regarding the new national licence requirements,” Mr Fitzpatrick said
“The working group examined a number of equity and sponsor options placed on the table for consideration, but said that more support from the business community would be needed within the next month or so.”
“The meeting also identified the additional promotional value of Basketball Queensland’s support for the bid because of its large membership base and its community based activities (60 000 children last year).”.
Mr Fitzpatrick said that a trust fund was being established to receive contributions from the membership and the community with the objective of supporting a team on behalf of the ‘grassroots’ of the sport.
“We already have hundreds of supporters ready to contribute but there is a great opportunity for business and the basketball community to participate in a new style team directly connected to the basketball community and for that reason, Basketball Queensland is happy to confirm its ongoing commitment to the efforts to get a Brisbane based NBL team back on the boards.”
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26-11-08, 05:34
The good news is that there will be a NBL team in Brisbane next season. Foxtel will withdraw sponsorship if they do not have one. The bad news is that it will be owned and operated by Baskeball Australia and managed by BQ (most likely) on their behalf. It will be just like Perth Glory in soccer, Players contracted to Ba. The team will stink and be a very low budget concern with BA expecting everyone to get behaind a team of players recruited for television coverage only. Seems that BA are only talking to BQ in this State so private money will not be attracted to the sport. Maybe time to look at other options BA. Bq is not an answer, they can not even manage State League nor keep up a positive junior program.
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28-01-09, 13:52
Courier Mail suggesting that deal done where the NBL will return to Brisbane in 2010 through the joining of forces of Stephensen and Petterwood camps. Seems Districts in mix also.
Whatever it takes is what must happen to make sure basketball is played at NBL level in Brisbane. Lets hope reporter got the story right. BQ not to be involved which is how it should be.
Marco (reporter) has had his finger on the pulse for a while when it comes to the Bullets beat. Would love to know what is being discussed at the moment between parties.
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28-01-09, 14:53
Courier Mail suggesting that deal done where the NBL will return to Brisbane in 2010 through the joining of forces of Stephensen and Petterwood camps. Seems Districts in mix also.
Whatever it takes is what must happen to make sure basketball is played at NBL level in Brisbane. Lets hope reporter got the story right. BQ not to be involved which is how it should be.
Rick Petterwood and Alan Ladewig! Those clashes will be more entertaining than the actual games. Anything has more chance of success than a BQ operation though. Best of Luck.
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28-01-09, 18:38
Marco (reporter) has had his finger on the pulse for a while when it comes to the Bullets beat. Would love to know what is being discussed at the moment between parties.
It is not the pulse Maro has his finger on!
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29-01-09, 07:42
Rick Petterwood and Alan Ladewig! Those clashes will be more entertaining than the actual games. Anything has more chance of success than a BQ operation though. Best of Luck.
I can tell you straight up front that Allan is willing to work with anyone to get NBL back of ground. Perhaps powers at BQ instead of locking out a lot of experienced people need to understand that we are all in this together. I am sure Rick is the same way. They both love basketball. Instead of BQ paying Larry Sengstock advisor fees perhaps they may like to talk to the people who will do it for free. Is it really the way membership money should be spent. I mean we all want NBL yes but using member fees to get it off the ground is not really the way to go about it. I sure do hope they are doing the same for Cairns. For that matter what ever they put into one program should be put into all the programs. Logan and Townsville will not say no to a cash/support system I am sure.
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29-01-09, 08:01
I can tell you straight up front that Allan is willing to work with anyone to get NBL back of ground. Perhaps powers at BQ instead of locking out a lot of experienced people need to understand that we are all in this together. I am sure Rick is the same way. They both love basketball. Instead of BQ paying Larry Sengstock advisor fees perhaps they may like to talk to the people who will do it for free. Is it really the way membership money should be spent. I mean we all want NBL yes but using member fees to get it off the ground is not really the way to go about it. I sure do hope they are doing the same for Cairns. For that matter what ever they put into one program should be put into all the programs. Logan and Townsville will not say no to a cash/support system I am sure.
Thanks for the info. Absolutely outrageous!!! I think everyones of the opinion that you put him there you get him out.
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30-01-09, 12:25
Read this in the Adelaide Now news
DOES look as if Brisbane might get a bid up although some within supportive Queensland Basketball are suggesting they wait 12 months to properly re-launch the Bullets.
Is this tru? BQ want to wait another 12 months?
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31-01-09, 17:08
Read this in the Adelaide Now news
DOES look as if Brisbane might get a bid up although some within supportive Queensland Basketball are suggesting they wait 12 months to properly re-launch the Bullets.
Is this tru? BQ want to wait another 12 months?
Word on the street is nobody will touch BQ under its present makeup which really isnt much of a secret. Probably need another 12 months to clean the cupboard and try to present a credible management structure. Good Luck.
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31-01-09, 19:36
Word on the street is nobody will touch BQ under its present makeup which really isnt much of a secret. Probably need another 12 months to clean the cupboard and try to present a credible management structure. Good Luck.
The Stevenson Van Gronigan Ladewig team with Palmer as coach will be up and runnng in 09 though so BQ won't have to worry about it will they? Lets see what is credible or not.
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31-01-09, 21:49
The Stevenson Van Gronigan Ladewig team with Palmer as coach will be up and runnng in 09 though so BQ won't have to worry about it will they? Lets see what is credible or not.
HaHa Ladewig and Palmer ARE BQ. (Just not on paper)
Palmer as coach of a revived Brisbane entry? Give me a break, I hope to hell not! That bloke has the people skills of a tennis ball. Hopefully this new group will understand that reviving the careers of has-been coaches is not the way to go.
Give Dale Ryan a go. Now considered a local, he has the coaching skills set and enthusiasm to get the job done. Heck, he might even team up with Joey again.
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02-02-09, 09:02
Palmer as coach of a revived Brisbane entry? Give me a break, I hope to hell not! That bloke has the people skills of a tennis ball. Hopefully this new group will understand that reviving the careers of has-been coaches is not the way to go.
Give Dale Ryan a go. Now considered a local, he has the coaching skills set and enthusiasm to get the job done. Heck, he might even team up with Joey again.
Rob Beveridge would be the ideal fit for community based franchise. Has a Junior World Championship on his resume, did great work at west Sydney during difficult times, fantastic developer of junior/adolescent basketballers as well (probably second only to Marty and Gorriss in Australia) ...he doesnt cost much and he's Australian. Widely known as a gentleman and honest broker with strong ethics and genuine love of basketball and Australia.
But there's the rub. People like that dont seem to last too long around BQ.
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02-02-09, 12:30
But there's the rub. People like that dont seem to last too long around BQ.[/QUOTE]
Like who for example? Say over the past two years not under previous administrations.
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02-02-09, 13:16
Why perpetuate the mentality of us against them!!!!!
Is it really important who does it, should we not just focus on that it just gets done.
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02-02-09, 14:12
Guys time for everyone to move forward together. The newspaper story last week no one seems to know where it came from but it gave us all hope. Now we have peole walking away again and this can not be good. We also have people locked out of structure which will make it worse. We need everyone to move as one if we are to get back a team. Narrelle is doing her best but can not do it alone. If BQ get it back up and running I say great. If someone else gets it back up and runnning I say great also. Whatever it takes has always been my motto. I suggest that for future of basketball a few more take this view also.
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02-02-09, 14:26
The newspaper story last week no one seems to know where it came from .
Everyone knows where it came from.... and why.
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02-02-09, 14:50
Everyone knows where it came from.... and why.
Want to let us all in on what you know or think you know. To many conspiracy theories. The X Files finished years ago. hahahahahaha Stop looking over your shoulder and get on doing some work that actually will benefit your company and sport. hahahahahah
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02-02-09, 15:48
Why perpetuate the mentality of us against them!!!!!
Is it really important who does it, should we not just focus on that it just gets done.
If the future of Fox Sports coverage of the NBL rests with a mandatory Brisbane based franchise and that franchise is being administered by Basketball Queensland then the future of the Fox coverage is definately shaky. What would be wrong with Rocky picking up the franchise?
Huge grass roots fan base and supporters club, astute successful wealthy businessmen onboard and a money printing press (nightclub) in the back room of the stadium. Is that too complicated?
Having a team made of BQ players will be better than no team at all.
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10-02-09, 17:49
Having a team made of BQ players will be better than no team at all.
Sorry. Short term small pond thinking.
You never. Work it as a Dynasty. Get a few players here and there, over a period of, say, 3 years and hey presto, you have a championship contender.
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10-02-09, 21:12
You never. Work it as a Dynasty. Get a few players here and there, over a period of, say, 3 years and hey presto, you have a championship contender.
1. You need an ethical and competent management team without personal and partisan agendas.
2. You need a front office with the ability to provide client service and satisfaction to all members regardless of political power and personal friendships.
3. You need people at the top who are trusted and admired by the grass roots basketball public (since it's a "grass roots-members" franchise run by employees whether they "CEO" or whoever who are payed to serve the membership by your fees).
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13-02-09, 05:30
1. You need an ethical and competent management team without personal and partisan agendas.
2. You need a front office with the ability to provide client service and satisfaction to all members regardless of political power and personal friendships.
3. You need people at the top who are trusted and admired by the grass roots basketball public (since it's a "grass roots-members" franchise run by employees whether they "CEO" or whoever who are payed to serve the membership by your fees).
Now come back to the real world...
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13-02-09, 09:16
Now come back to the real world...
Whatever. But that is the real world for franchises that are successful and dont fall over every couple of years.
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27-02-09, 15:39
Watching the NBL finals series the last couple of nights (and dozing frequently) got to thinking about what I was watching...then Mick Cedar woke me from my reverie with an inspired 3 touches and 8 points...and then couldnt get the ball again from the $$$ guys...zzz ...then Rillie finally hit a shot...blah blah... and so I was able to be interested by which team would survive the last few minutes shoot-a-thon and scrabble round...zzzz..
Then watching a college game today and remembered that I've been watching Australias premier Basketball League Finals series...and realised what the doomsayers have been saying is pretty bloody true. The NBL 'product' is in bad shape.
Is there any other televised sport where (almost) EVERY player questions (complete with facial gesticulation and hand waving) EVERY bloody call the refs make?? I could say the same about the acting and flopping on just about every sort of contact but then we've all seen the cartoon circulated about how Soccer players 'train' for the world Cup by feigning terminal injury crying and screaming, and so thankfully we arent that bad...close...but not quite yet! (Though Anstey could probably make a world cup soccer team anyday on his performances). Watching guys who , lets face it arent really THAT athletic (by NCAA/Euro League/NBA standards) but give the attitude and arrogance as if they are actually top line players, whinging and whining and throwing their hands, hips shoulders, knees feet into people and calling it defence well...zzz.
But then to top it all off we get a yank whose been in the country 30 odd years but still has the Yank accent even broader than the day he arrived rabbitting on with his "hip" "Street Jarve" commentary and I sorta see why FOX wants out of NBL broadcasting. Hope I dont get a smart bomb on my house, a CIA sniper bullet or a Napalm attack for saying this but...
I think the Australian basketball consumer has become a lot more sophisticated in recent years and the Yanks dont hold the same mystique and enigmatic status in our 'Aussie hick' psyches anymore. Christ our kids are taking College scholarships off American kids, The USA had to bring a team with a combined annual income about double our National GDP to stop getting beaten at the Olympics and a no bullshit clear speaking knowledgeable commentator like Andrew Gaze is the one saving grace of the whole sorry product that we call the NBL. Now I'm no big time player ex player American "expert" or NBL insider but I really do reckon its time we took our National League back from the recycled out of date Yanks that created it back when we didnt have a clue what real basketball was. The fact is we do now and the tired old boys club that still have their hands around the throat of the NBL suffocating it from fresh air need to take their retirement plans and let the product reinvigorate itself with fresh blood.
p.s. This definately doesnt apply to "The Big O" who gave us a franchise on the Gold Coast and is about the only expatriate American I've ever seen put his hand in his pocket and give to Australian Basketball rather than vacuum the cash out.
If anyone can translate the above waffle into something any normal person can understand, please let us know!!
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27-02-09, 19:37
didn't find it to hard to understand and have too agree with alot of it.
If anyone can translate the above waffle into something any normal person can understand, please let us know!!
In a nutshell I believe the post is;
1) advocating a more Australian based commentary of the NBL which will relate to today's modern basketball viewer. Comment: Agree. But who is going to start the ball rolling: the viewers? the network? the basketball associations (state and national)?
2) Aussie NBL players are as good at acting and plea bargining with refs as their soccer counterparts. Comment: Not surprised given the number of Bendoes posts which promote the rampant questioning of referee authority. a sign of today's growing argumenative society!!
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The Brisbane NBL Back ON Board Project today announced that an Expression of Interest (EOI) document was lodged with Basketball Australia ahead of last Friday’s deadline.
All current & prospective National Basketball League teams were required to submit EOI documents to Basketball Australian if they were interested in taking part in the revamped NBL.
Project Consultant Larry Sengstock said "The NBL Back On Board Group are keen to explore the possibility of securing an NBL licence for the people of Brisbane. They are interested in developing a Grass Roots model that will give young players a pathway to the elite level.
Sengstock himself a legend of the league as well as a world recognised sports administrator said that “Given Brisbane’s proud history in the NBL there is no doubt that having a Brisbane based team will be important to the League.
“Now that the proposal has been submitted to the Basketball Australia Board, it will be determined by their Board of Directors who will take part in the new NBL”.
“We have been able to identify commercial support for our proposal and believe that with support from the broader basketball community a Brisbane team could be back in the NBL.
Mr Sengstock added that although the project had been initiated by Basketball Queensland the proposal was for private ownership of the licence with Basketball Queensland providing the linkage to the sports grassroots.
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01-03-09, 18:16
The Brisbane NBL Back ON Board Project today announced that an Expression of Interest (EOI) document was lodged with Basketball Australia ahead of last Friday’s deadline.
All current & prospective National Basketball League teams were required to submit EOI documents to Basketball Australian if they were interested in taking part in the revamped NBL.
Project Consultant Larry Sengstock said "The NBL Back On Board Group are keen to explore the possibility of securing an NBL licence for the people of Brisbane. They are interested in developing a Grass Roots model that will give young players a pathway to the elite level.
Sengstock himself a legend of the league as well as a world recognised sports administrator said that “Given Brisbane’s proud history in the NBL there is no doubt that having a Brisbane based team will be important to the League.
“Now that the proposal has been submitted to the Basketball Australia Board, it will be determined by their Board of Directors who will take part in the new NBL”.
“We have been able to identify commercial support for our proposal and believe that with support from the broader basketball community a Brisbane team could be back in the NBL.
Mr Sengstock added that although the project had been initiated by Basketball Queensland the proposal was for private ownership of the licence with Basketball Queensland providing the linkage to the sports grassroots.
Good news! Private Ownership. Only way to go. Hopefully wih a limit to the cash that can be thrown around we may end up with some players playing a bit more for the city/club/state...as well as their salary of course. Good darts Larry. Get it done.
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05-03-09, 17:42
basketball in australia is in such a disgusting state at present.
i agree, the current NBL games just do not have that extra 'snap' to it that shows that it is quality basketball or of a high standard to those in other countries, and that is even visible from onlookers who have no knowledge about what is or isn't top quality basketball!
if there is no NBL next season, which is looking more and more likely, the ABA becomes the top level of basketball, and for how long will that survive?
lets face it, no one is passionate enough about basketball at present and lets only hope that one day in Australia, we value such a great sport and finally get to compete with the 'big boys' of basketball in the future.
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06-03-09, 11:33
They should do wat the NSL did a few years ago!!
Remove the NBL for one season and recharge the batteries and pump out a new exciting league (A-League) with every game every round shown on TV!! Thus will make ppl realize how much they miss basketball and want it to come back bigger and better!!!
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06-03-09, 16:40
lets hope that is true...
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07-03-09, 21:42
They should do wat the NSL did a few years ago!!
Remove the NBL for one season and recharge the batteries and pump out a new exciting league (A-League) with every game every round shown on TV!! Thus will make ppl realize how much they miss basketball and want it to come back bigger and better!!!
Sadly I think it (NBL) will have to burn to the ground before it can be reborn. Even the extreme optimists just cant see any other alternative that will be ralistically sustainable in the medium to long term. Maybe with all existing contracts being now null and void under the new BA administration, Clubs will take the chance to relieve themselves of dead wood and expensive appendages and recruit and contract new players and coaches with the ability and will to add value by taking their franchise and the game to the general community. Might be a couple of lean seasons with just the game faithful in the stands at first but as the community interest and access to the game improves so will attendances and sponsorship. Teams operating on a budget within their means actually brings stability and allows coaches and general managers to build teams and individuals with a view to the longer term than is the norm at present.
Quality game last night in Melbourne. Best I've seen all season.
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24-04-09, 03:35
So any new news about who is running the new bid and whats going on with a Brisbane team for the 09/10 season ??
Today it wil be announced that Brisbane and Sydney are not part of the new NBL. It is no one persons fault but the failure of our sport in Brisbane to work together under an inclusive leadership. Thanks to all those that tried but until it rises from the ashes lets just enjoy what we have in the QBL and SEABL. Looks like it wil be this way for at least 2 years.
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01-05-09, 17:59
Today it wil be announced that Brisbane and Sydney are not part of the new NBL. It is no one persons fault but the failure of our sport in Brisbane to work together under an inclusive leadership. Thanks to all those that tried but until it rises from the ashes lets just enjoy what we have in the QBL and SEABL. Looks like it wil be this way for at least 2 years.
Well it wasnt announced that day so does anyone have update on this ??
I read a report late last night which said an official announcement had again been delayed ....
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01-05-09, 22:37
Things not looking too good if you believe what you read in the papers...
http://www.news.com.au/adelaidenow/story/0,22606,25406148-12428,00.html
http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/story/0,25197,25409718-5013406,00.html
Wondered what the fate of the board and management would be in any other sporting business or organisation of any kind if they delivered the same failures as QLD and NSW in fulfilling their obligations in a National product dependent on their participation for its existence?
As the the article says...we live in hope...
Brisbane set for basketball return
July 31, 2009 - 7:43AM
Basketball Australia (BA) boss Larry Sengstock has boldly declared there will be Sydney and Brisbane teams in the rebuilding NBL by this time next year.
The eight-team NBL, minus teams from the two major cities, received a boost on Thursday with a new one-year broadcast deal signed with pay-television channel Fox Sports.
Sengstock is now far more hopeful the troubled competition will be beefed up for the 2010-11 season with Brisbane and Sydney teams, admitting "positive discussions" were advanced with interested parties in both cities.
A grassroots bid backed by Basketball Queensland appears to be that state's best hope of NBL involvement.
BA is seeking a more corporate-style presence in Sydney.
"Absolutely. It's got to happen," Sengstock said of having Sydney and Brisbane teams from next season.
"If we want to move forward, to get the deals in place from a broadcast and sponsorship point of view, we have to.
"(There are) positive discussions. There's enthusiasm, especially in Brisbane.
"It was a group already looking to come into the league in 2010 anyway and I'm just reactivating that group.
"In Sydney it's a bit different but there's a few people putting their hand half-up and we just have to find them, address what their issues are, and get them going."
Sengstock said he hoped the new Fox Sports deal would reassure those concerned about the league's viability that the sport was moving in the right direction.
Fox will show two NBL matches a week when the new season starts on September 24, and every match of the finals series.
They will also televise Boomers and Opals matches against New Zealand in August and September.
Sengstock said the eight clubs were progressing well ahead of the NBL pre-season tournament in Darwin from September 2 to 5.
Oh look, still on pay tv with no Free to air coverage.
What's changed exactly?
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01-08-09, 13:32
Oh look, still on pay tv with no Free to air coverage.
What's changed exactly?
Quite a bit within the structure and behind the scenes to re-create a product that Free2Air TV would be interested in, but it will be a ways down the track. Unfortunately theres still a number of people in the NBL who havent yet realised that their fame and importance is only in their own minds and that to the Australian sporting public at large nobody knows who they are or cares. 10 years of picking up your salary and shunning the public except on game night will get that for you.
Free 2 Air television responds to public demand as do the advertisers whose dollars float the networks. Australias highest paid player, Sam McKinnon for example, show his photo anywhere outside a basketball stadium and noone would know who the hell he was. Footy players swimmers and even Netballers however, with their numerous public appearances at schools, clinics, charity events etc, are far more well known to the community at large and attractive to the F2A TV audience/advertisers/Networks.
Theres been good steps (albeit small ones thus far) in getting the game back out into the community at a National level. I have serious concerns however about the future of a franchise in Brisbane, if managed from BQ in Auchenflower, to perform at the standards required by the rest of the league. Has it occurred to anyone else that BQ has not had a credible sponsor who actually paid anything in the last 5-6 years? Would that raise the question, why?
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01-08-09, 20:29
They should do wat the NSL did a few years ago!!
Remove the NBL for one season and recharge the batteries and pump out a new exciting league (A-League) with every game every round shown on TV!! Thus will make ppl realize how much they miss basketball and want it to come back bigger and better!!!
No you need to work from the ground up (junior basketball) people expect more ball skills and talent (they want to see the next lebron or kobi) or close to it, which is not coached here we have people here who want to coach it, but we are so set in our ways nobody is interested wake up it takes years to coach it. Australia we need more outdoor FULL free courts to practice on, half the time stadiums are full with other sports we have no space to practice or the funds to train every day.
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02-08-09, 20:12
agree if it doesn't happen at under 12's then basketball will weaken as it has in the last 5 years and will disappear everyone no's its grassroots failure that is killing the game but it is un resolved, how many under 12's no.s will show an assoc 's strengh and the games future.
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03-08-09, 15:30
agree if it doesn't happen at under 12's then basketball will weaken as it has in the last 5 years and will disappear everyone no's its grassroots failure that is killing the game but it is un resolved, how many under 12's no.s will show an assoc 's strengh and the games future.
No one seems to care for under 12 or under 14 they are not interested until under 16. 4 years lost already and the blue chip won't work because they haven't got the right scouts looking for future players to teach, only what looks good now, size does not seem to count. Blue Chip shouldn't be about selecting players for state teams that should be done on individals merit kids who are good now. Blue Chip should be about kids who are above average - tall in height , either already good or not quite there in skill and ball handling. And just about training them in all positions for the next AIS selections. Kids who really are looking to make a career in basketball.
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03-08-09, 16:59
No one seems to care for under 12 or under 14 they are not interested until under 16. 4 years lost already and the blue chip won't work because they haven't got the right scouts looking for future players to teach, only what looks good now, size does not seem to count. Blue Chip shouldn't be about selecting players for state teams that should be done on individals merit kids who are good now. Blue Chip should be about kids who are above average - tall in height , either already good or not quite there in skill and ball handling. And just about training them in all positions for the next AIS selections. Kids who really are looking to make a career in basketball.
Yes that is exactly what we need to see we need mini bullets or blaze kids growing into basketball stars from an early age that fact our schools let us down in this sport we need a place more than just local weekend where coaching is below average where you can try out for a spot and have regular training through out the year simular to AIS but for younger kids with the best coaches that can train all the stuff american kids are being taught.
What is happening
05-08-09, 14:27
Sick of rumours. What is happening with Bullets or whatever the new name may be. Remember that Eddie would own Bullets name so it is no certainty that the Bullets as such will return.
That really does not matter but really if we are talking about 2010, and I hope we are, time for something to be on the go.
If BQ are doing the work they need to start doing some promotions about that work so we all feel comfortable. If BQ are not involved who is going to step up. Word is out there that a past sponsor is trying to get it all together but the money would be coming from the Logan area so the team would be playing at the new Logan stadium.
Wayne Carrol the High Performance Manager from Basketball Austrlia is meeting with BQ about what is happening. After that BQ Board meeting on Sunday so hopefully that is all positive and we will start to hear stories. In the interim Carrol will also be attending the Spartans SEABL semi final at Carina tonight as a special guest.
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08-08-09, 16:11
Sick of rumours. What is happening with Bullets or whatever the new name may be. Remember that Eddie would own Bullets name so it is no certainty that the Bullets as such will return.
That really does not matter but really if we are talking about 2010, and I hope we are, time for something to be on the go.
If BQ are doing the work they need to start doing some promotions about that work so we all feel comfortable. If BQ are not involved who is going to step up. Word is out there that a past sponsor is trying to get it all together but the money would be coming from the Logan area so the team would be playing at the new Logan stadium.
Logan can't even afford to play in QBL. How would they afford to play in NBL. They are in major debt & the current committee drives away sponsors.
St Mary's USA play Blaze
11-08-09, 15:16
NBL Return to Brisbane
The NBL is returning to Brisbane all be it brief. Since the demise of the Brisbane Bullets in 2008, Brisbane has struggled to bring the NBL back to Brisbane however, with the help of the Brisbane Spartans and the Gold Coast Blaze, this is now a reality.
On Monday 17 August 2009 the Gold Coast Blaze will play a pre-season game at the Carina Basketball Stadium against highly touted USA College, St Mary’s, former school of current NBA draftee, Patrick Mills and the future school of Queenslanders Jorden Page (Maroochydore Basketball Association) and Mitch Young (Logan Basketball Inc.)
You are invited to purchase a corporate for the night which includes:
• 6 courtside seats
• Finger Food
• Drinks on arrival
• Logo recognition in game night program
• Verbal recognition over PA system throughout the game
For an investment of just $275.00 (inc GST) you can enjoy all of the above and be part of the NBL’s return to Brisbane.
General admission $10 an adult and $5 a child.
For further information please contact: 3398 2790.
If the whispers are corrcet in Melbourne the Bullets are back under the guidance of a uniform provider from down Logan way and a Rocky business man. You work out the names. Well done to both if it is true.
What is happening
29-10-09, 15:02
Has anyone heard anything about what is happening with the Bullets in 2010. We all know if they are playing it will be at Chandler but that does not help anyone to get excited. Time for BQ or the syndicate to start talking things up. See the story about Canberra in SEABL and you see the wheels starting to grind out a pathway to the return of the game to big time. We need stories that are positive about the return and we need them now. Districts show what can be done by always talking things up. They are revamping their stadium with new score boards and new furniture in preparation for new SEABL season and issuing stories every week. You may not like the way they do things but stories about the return of the NBL are needed and sure to have at least a positive affect in the media and in turn the long forgotten supporters.
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30-10-09, 01:17
Has anyone heard anything about what is happening with the Bullets in 2010. We all know if they are playing it will be at Chandler but that does not help anyone to get excited. Time for BQ or the syndicate to start talking things up. See the story about Canberra in SEABL and you see the wheels starting to grind out a pathway to the return of the game to big time. We need stories that are positive about the return and we need them now. Districts show what can be done by always talking things up. They are revamping their stadium with new score boards and new furniture in preparation for new SEABL season and issuing stories every week. You may not like the way they do things but stories about the return of the NBL are needed and sure to have at least a positive affect in the media and in turn the long forgotten supporters.
BQ should have backed SD and the Bullets would have already been back in.
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30-10-09, 08:22
BQ should have backed SD and the Bullets would have already been back in.
SD should have backed BQ :)
Silly statement
30-10-09, 11:57
I think you will find that Districts were never included in the BQ/NBL proposal because of personalities. Silly politics seems to always get in the way of the big picture in Queensland. Perhaps it is time that the people running the sport stopped trying to prove a point and ALL started to work together.
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30-10-09, 18:38
I think you will find that Districts were never included in the BQ/NBL proposal because of personalities. Silly politics seems to always get in the way of the big picture in Queensland. Perhaps it is time that the people running the sport stopped trying to prove a point and ALL started to work together.
Howcome Alan, Bruce etc were at the Back on Board Launch then?
Howcome Alan, Bruce etc were at the Back on Board Launch then?
I think you will find Bruce was a part of BBI when the Bullets mess started. He was recruited by Districts later on. As far as Bruce goes I am aware he tried to help the BQ Board with a radical concept that Districts and some supporters/sponsors were willing to help with. He was rejected straight up and only later after others concepts/people had dropped off was he asked to explain. The bird had flown and BQ were stating loud and clear that any proposal had to go throught them. Many elected to just walk away rather then do that. At this stage I understand 3 people are working with BA not BQ to get things up and running. The issue will be money with Chandler already locked in. This is where BQ are moving to soon from Auchenflower so hopely it will all come together.
At Districts we are focused to getting our juniors up and running in a different format to past years and we are sitting at the table with sponsors and other interested groups to get the stadium size increased, refurbished and air-conditioned. This will take 3 to 5 years. After that we will be a totally different structure that will not rely on numbers for income but a solid business base and from there we will decide what we want to be part of.
We have elected to be part of the BA second tier and our strategic plan will reflect that as well as moving our junior program to an elite status in development that will see home grown players again being able to get wherever they want as long as they gave the committment and talent. The new direction and pathways will be released in early December and it is exciting where we are going with some great people joning us.
The NBL while something we cared about and still want in Brisbane we accept we are not involved within. Life moves on. There is more then one way to drive from Brisbane to Melbourne. What ever it takes.
Article in yesterday's Sunday Mail. Jist was that BQ has been negotiating with the government to use Chandler for Bullets games, as well as other basketball events.
Not a fan of Chandler's seating (it's awful), but I concede it makes sense from a financial standpoint at this time.
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22-12-09, 19:14
EOI are due Christmans eve. Sydney Kings look to have financial backing unlike the Brisbane push. Hopefully it gets done but is not looking overly positive at this stage. Money is a big problem...
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22-12-09, 22:54
EOI are due Christmans eve. Sydney Kings look to have financial backing unlike the Brisbane push. Hopefully it gets done but is not looking overly positive at this stage. Money is a big problem...
Think you'll find the money is there...just people with money dont have a habit of entrusting it to the inept. Some light on the horizon but.
king of hearts
23-12-09, 05:53
Think you'll find the money is there...just people with money dont have a habit of entrusting it to the inept. Some light on the horizon but.
So true and I totally understand what you're saying here. I believe you are in the know who ever you are.
I understand the revamped Bullets will be run on a shoe string budget with every cent accounted for. No sugar Daddy like Eddy for this addition of the Bullets.
Does Chandler have AC? I was thinking it it does not, just wondering how in the world people will watch BBall in a Brisbane summer in any venue that does not have AC? Will the corporates get on board with games being plyed out there?
On a final note, expect Carins Taipans NOT be a part of the NBL next year. They're done; stick a fork in em! Those players could form the nucleus of the relaunched Bullets and Kings.
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23-12-09, 11:18
That's good to hear if a Brisbane return is still on the cards. It certainly means a lot to me.
If Cairns unfortunately goes under will they want 9 teams or will they try to implement a second Melbourne or Wellington as an option?
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27-12-09, 16:06
Was told the following this morning:(unconfirmed but I want to believe)
Brisbane are in with financial backers secured but no second team in Melbourne. Wellington put in an EOI but will probably be refused(they should be in the league in my opinion).
Cairns are almost no chance of staying alive, however Sydney are also back.
Both Brisbane and Sydney will be called the Bullets and Kings.
I would really like the above information confirmed if someone is in the know, and possibly when there will be a media release.
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06-01-10, 10:49
From Morning Herald today:
But Sengstock was confident the Taipans would stay in the league and teams from Brisbane and Sydney would return, although the Brisbane team might be cutting it fine to make a commitment in time for next season.
"We've got a good group we're working with in Sydney," Sengstock said.
"We're hopeful they'll be in a position to play next season, but with Brisbane, time is the issue and their planning is not as advanced as Sydney."
The Brisbane team looks as if it will have a mixed ownership of private investors and associations brought together by Basketball Queensland, which recently installed former Basketball Australia boss Scott Derwin as president.
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08-01-10, 08:02
The Brisbane team looks as if it will have a mixed ownership of private investors and associations brought together by Basketball Queensland, which recently installed former Basketball Australia boss Scott Derwin as president.
Good if BQ did bring stakeholders together to make this happen but what are they doing for Cairns? Will BQ be providing the same level of front office support and employee time to the Crocs Taipans and Blaze? Association members in those centres pay their money to have BQ work for them also.
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08-01-10, 14:15
The 3 year sponsorship deal for the Taipans from the Bligh government while she let the Bullets rot should appease you from a Cairns perspective anyway.
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08-01-10, 14:41
The 3 year sponsorship deal for the Taipans from the Bligh government while she let the Bullets rot should appease you from a Cairns perspective anyway.
Didnt think the Bullets were "rotting" during that time. Private jet to Las Vegas, player salaries and side 'gifts' that could more than sustain a reasonable program. Didnt see much rotting there. Whatever Anna or Cairns do or did doesnt change the fact that Basketball Queensland is employed by all paying members in Qld. not just the Bullets fans.
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09-01-10, 18:20
Didnt think the Bullets were "rotting" during that time. Private jet to Las Vegas, player salaries and side 'gifts' that could more than sustain a reasonable program. Didnt see much rotting there. Whatever Anna or Cairns do or did doesnt change the fact that Basketball Queensland is employed by all paying members in Qld. not just the Bullets fans.
The time I'm refering to is when Eddy handed back the license to the NBL and the Bullets needed financial aide to remain alive. All you characters make me laugh with your ignorance when you constantly crap on about the the way the club functioned while Eddy owned the team. It doesn't matter what happened while he had the team - if they walked from venue to venue or played for free. The fact of the matter is they needed cash to survive when new ownership didn't happen. The club were faced with identical circumstances in 1999 when the club was for sale and Eddy bought the team.
Anna "Soccer Mum" Bligh couldn't bare to part with any money to save a sporting institution older than the Broncos, Lions or Roar. Instead to win votes from the rural sector she pledges money to Cairns(looks like money well spent), the Gold Coast AFL venture while watching literally millions disappear from the Gold Coast during the A1 shamble. And she wonders why everyone hates her.
Yes BQ should probably service all parts of Qld but when your capital city and largest market is on its knees from shear incompetence, that needs to be your primary focus and the priority.
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10-01-10, 12:01
Yes BQ should probably service all parts of Qld but when your capital city and largest market is on its knees from shear incompetence, that needs to be your primary focus and the priority.
Any insights on why the capital city-largest market is on its knees?
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10-01-10, 17:48
a decent stadium would help
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11-01-10, 08:59
After seeing some of the Brisbane International Tennis, I couldn't help but think it would be a good place to play. About the right size, has public transport and is Govt owned so costs can be monitored like Chandler. No idea what availability is like though
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11-01-10, 10:21
After seeing some of the Brisbane International Tennis, I couldn't help but think it would be a good place to play. About the right size, has public transport and is Govt owned so costs can be monitored like Chandler. No idea what availability is like though
You can have the nicest facility in the world to play in but if you dont have the community base to support your franchise you'll be playing in an empty shed and fall over soon as the money runs out. Basketball as a sport in Brisbane simply doesnt have the community support base (apart from a few die hard fans with comparatively shallow pockets) to maintain a professional franchise let alone a winning one...yet. Lot of work to be done at the bottom end of town before its viable and sustainable.
From Morning Herald today:
But Sengstock was confident the Taipans would stay in the league and teams from Brisbane and Sydney would return, although the Brisbane team might be cutting it fine to make a commitment in time for next season.
"We've got a good group we're working with in Sydney," Sengstock said.
"We're hopeful they'll be in a position to play next season, but with Brisbane, time is the issue and their planning is not as advanced as Sydney."
The Brisbane team looks as if it will have a mixed ownership of private investors and associations brought together by Basketball Queensland, which recently installed former Basketball Australia boss Scott Derwin as president.
I do not heard of one Association that has comitted to the BQ plan. I seriously doubt any Association would be willing to commit any members funds to an NBL program that they can not see what they get for it.
Scott may be good but he is not that good. Not sure BQ could even consider leveeing membership for a private concern which an NBL team is no matter where in Queensland.
If the southern teams started just playing amongst themsleves with a gaurantee of NBl players in off season I could see some benefit and money saved from travelling all over state could be used. Food for thought.
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12-01-10, 17:54
I do not heard of one Association that has comitted to the BQ plan. I seriously doubt any Association would be willing to commit any members funds to an NBL program that they can not see what they get for it.
Scott may be good but he is not that good. Not sure BQ could even consider leveeing membership for a private concern which an NBL team is no matter where in Queensland.
If the southern teams started just playing amongst themsleves with a gaurantee of NBl players in off season I could see some benefit and money saved from travelling all over state could be used. Food for thought.
Pretty sound food for thought. 'Rim tap before we dunk'
I do not heard of one Association that has comitted to the BQ plan. I seriously doubt any Association would be willing to commit any members funds to an NBL program that they can not see what they get for it.
Scott may be good but he is not that good. Not sure BQ could even consider leveeing membership for a private concern which an NBL team is no matter where in Queensland.
If the southern teams started just playing amongst themsleves with a gaurantee of NBl players in off season I could see some benefit and money saved from travelling all over state could be used. Food for thought.
so your food for thought is stuff the rest of Qld lets look after SEQ in the hope that we can one day have an NBL team in Brissie again... great forward thinking for the benefit of our game in QLD...
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15-01-10, 07:04
so your food for thought is stuff the rest of Qld lets look after SEQ in the hope that we can one day have an NBL team in Brissie again... great forward thinking for the benefit of our game in QLD...
Not 100% sure but I think they were saying more that SEQ should walk before they run and get the SEQ competitions right and with a strong base of members and participants from which a sustainable NBL program could grow. Sort of like 'prepare the soil before planting'. Thats my take anyhow.
Not 100% sure but I think they were saying more that SEQ should walk before they run and get the SEQ competitions right and with a strong base of members and participants from which a sustainable NBL program could grow. Sort of like 'prepare the soil before planting'. Thats my take anyhow.
What I was suggesting is that there should be a competition restructure all around the state. The bigger and wealthier Associations should play in a shortened format and the SEQ members left should establish an alternate competition. This competition could be attached to the new (hopefully) NBL program. The two structures working towards the establishment of a true elite and semi elite Associations based competition in Queensland. It is tunnel visioned "I'm alright Jacks" and not those trying to get new ideas that are holding back the sport. In the north everyone should be attached to the Townsville/Cairns programs with similar support downwards. The same should also happen with Logan and Townsville WNBL managing the competitions from where they hopefully will be recruiting players in the future. We have way to control from the top in Queensland which is holding back our sport. Warren will be turning over in his grave watching how all he and others did is starting to sour again through no one wanting to change. Remember 2 + 2 = 5 in our world of constant change.
ok so do you mean like the southern cross and super 8 that they had 3 years ago that everyone complained about and hence why we joined together to make a full state comp?
or if i'm not on the right track..
do you mean have QBL teams set up as feeder clubs for NBL programs like the State Rugby league comp for NRL where several teams feed into one NRL team???
or am i completely off track??
to be honest the way things are looking how many SEQ teams would play in a full state league if they had the choice of a cheaper comp where they are more likely to win?
Southern Cross
18-01-10, 14:30
I will try and set what I am trying to say out clearer and also try and dismiss some myths along the way. Sorry for being so long but debate never hurt anyone. Actions do and actions are also the result of debate and nothing ever stays the same.
ok so do you mean like the southern cross and super 8 that they had 3 years ago that everyone complained about and hence why we joined together to make a full state comp?
The teams in the south were not unhappy with the two division structure but yes it had major restrictions. It did no really challenge the better structures at all. If BBI had defected we would now only have one structure with the north struggling to keep an interest in the sport. Yes you guys in central and north owe BBI in a big way. If Districts had not jumped who knows what would have happened as the Cross teams were basically left without a true competitive club between them. Remember Districts won men and womnen the last three years prior to jumping to SEABL All that said no the structure was not the best but it did allow teams to develop something that some are finding hard to do with increased costs of a semi full time competition.
or if i'm not on the right track..
never easy when we are talking about 2 cents worth of knowledge. hahahaha
do you mean have QBL teams set up as feeder clubs for NBL programs like the State Rugby league comp for NRL where several teams feed into one NRL team???
Yes the NBL needs to start being involved in our structure of development and support. I will use the mens programs as an example with the women a simalar situation. The network should run like this.
Top level Townsville / Cairns This where players should be aiming to play.
State League North Cairns, Townsville, Thuringowah/Burdekin, Mackay, Rocky, Gladstone and one more to be identified.
Each team to contribute $15,000 for operational management from employee (not BQ. Needs to be based in Townsville) who is also involved in marketing, arranging junior programs in Associations and assisting Association in Government funding and stadium facilities. The junior base should reflect the senior structure with the employee to spend time in each location. Teams that require players fron the NBL programs contribute $10,000 extra so players are under contract all year round. Games between Associations should be a complete program challenge starting early in day with under 12 and ending with seniors where possible. Sure there will be draw backs but kids travel now. Associations that develop players to an NBL standard (10 games whether on bench or playing) should be paid $10,000 by NBL program they move to. Given we will have created a great culture (us against the rest) in the north with kids aiming to play for either Cairns or Townsville. This will over time create a northern tribe mentality that will drive everyone to greater heights. Players returning to home Association whether to play or just do camp will encourage more juniors. It will foster the growth with our own basketballers becoming the name that the local media remembers rather then the ARL players.
Top Level NBL Brisbane and Gold Coast
South State League Bundy, North Coast, Wizards, BBI, Districts, SWM, Gold Coast, Logan, Ipswich, Toowoomba
Cross Conference Noosa, BBI, Districts, Beenliegh, Runaway Bay, Caboolture, Redlands with maybe 2 other association of size placing a second team in pool.
Each feeding to the higher division as above. Cross teams would only contribute $5000 to management of structure. Associatin after meeting a certain criteria could then apply to enter higher division. Association on hard times could also drop down and employee could work with them to build up program for future.
The end result may even be something like this but not saying it should.
NBL Cairns, Townsville, Brisbane, Gold Coast
SECOND Tier / SEABL Districts, BBI and Gold Coast/Rocky. Any two ?????
Third tier North and South State Leagues Maybe a Satte Championship on rotation basis. No Australian Club Championship so a real chance to place something on the calendar in Queensland.
to be honest the way things are looking how many SEQ teams would play in a full state league if they had the choice of a cheaper comp where they are more likely to win?
The southern teams are happy to play where it is best for membership but they need to get over the hurdle of money. My ideas are not what many will want but if we ever get to the stage of having a 3, 5 & 10 year plan on how to get to what we want it will go a long way to serving a purpose. BQ need to understand the need for planning rather then just jumping to what they think is what is best for those that they talk to. I am not trying to be rude but does BQ have a strategic plan for the QBL? I have never seen one. Did a lot of work with Waz in rejigging the 5 team competition but that was the last time I ever saw of a plan.
No matter what people think the reason people fight against direction is they do not undertstand it. Talking to people is far better then at them. Time for a genuine sit around and discussion on where the competitiona and managemnt are headed. Tell me I am wrong and that is fine but I know from talking to many where they are headed and most of it is in another direction to what managment thinks. Happy to get off my soap box. Over to you 2 cents.
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18-01-10, 15:44
ok so do you mean like the southern cross and super 8 that they had 3 years ago that everyone complained about and hence why we joined together to make a full state comp?
or if i'm not on the right track..
do you mean have QBL teams set up as feeder clubs for NBL programs like the State Rugby league comp for NRL where several teams feed into one NRL team???
or am i completely off track??
to be honest the way things are looking how many SEQ teams would play in a full state league if they had the choice of a cheaper comp where they are more likely to win?
Nah mate, could be me thats a bit off track fluctuating between the viability of another NBL program in SEQ AT THIS PARTICULAR POINT IN TIME (not sure we have the community support base just yet) and the question of the QBL not being a full state competition. Personally I couldnt see the point of putting too much time or resources into a 'Seq-exclusive" top tier competition. (Realistically you could get pretty close to that with whats already on offer at GBL/Districts A grade and the WIZ A grade comp-with a little bit of revamping but not much)
Couldnt see how any club could call themselves champions of anything or how a sponsor would be interested in attaching their name if they werent playing against the Clubs who have consistently headed the pack in State competition i.e. Rocky/Cairns/Mackay/Townsville. Would they?
Can someone plesae put me out of my misery. Larry says Bullets a go but nothing is happening. I suspect that it is all over but the excuses.
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27-01-10, 08:27
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29-01-10, 22:46
Can someone plesae put me out of my misery. Larry says Bullets a go but nothing is happening. I suspect that it is all over but the excuses.
When did he say they were a go? The only thing concrete from Sengstock(which isn't a lot) was stating a while back that the teams for next season probably won't be announced/finalised until March 2010. This is probably to sort out which teams are viable and which are not. He has gone on the record numerous times saying we need Brisbane and Sydney blah blah blah but he or nobody else has said anything definitive. This was the last OFFICIAL comment about the situation I know of(3 weeks ago) and states that time might be an issue, which I can't understand quite frankly:
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/nbl-eyes-city-rival-for-tigers-in-melbournes-suburbs/story-e6frf9if-1225816391819
I have been told from reliable sources that it is all good, but the way it played out last time I won't be allowing myself to even feel a shred of excitement until they run out on to the court in full uniform for tipoff. But yes waiting on the official announcement is very difficult.
Boss Playa
30-01-10, 02:57
Have heard that a few people have thrown their hats in the ring to stump up cash for a Bullets side, but that the $$$ simply isn't substantial enough to sustain the team in the long run (see Cairns this season). Until we have a financial heavyweight who wants to splash out, I think we are doomed. As it stands, a potential Bullets team would be run on an absolute shotstring, and that's not where we want to be. There has been talk that the team could be based at Browns Plains or Chandler, but realistically they need to be playing out out Southbank otherwise they'll never be able to attract the sponsorship dollars. Guess we can always follow the Gold Coast hey.
Can verify that the big guns were all at BQ HQ Friday morning, these included from BA Larry Sengstock and Mike Haynes. Rumured consortiunm chairman Ian Weigh, BQ head honcho Scott Derwin.
Larry has been consistent in saying that there will be a Sydney and Brisbane team in the 2010/11 NBL. Have even heard that BA will prop up these two in the short term to ensure the pending TV deal gets done.
One thing's for sure, the Brisbane team will be shoestring run with the curent ownership group.
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30-01-10, 06:32
Can verify that the big guns were all at BQ HQ Friday morning, these included from BA Larry Sengstock and Mike Haynes. Rumured consortiunm chairman Ian Weigh, BQ head honcho Scott Derwin.
Larry has been consistent in saying that there will be a Sydney and Brisbane team in the 2010/11 NBL. Have even heard that BA will prop up these two in the short term to ensure the pending TV deal gets done.
One thing's for sure, the Brisbane team will be shoestring run with the curent ownership group.
perhaps a community model like Wollongong's would be more appropriate. See myfootballclub.co.uk, who raised $4 UK pounds from the community.. I feel this is a much better and a more sustainable model.
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01-02-10, 09:07
Wow, $4Uk Pounds, that's about $8 Aus now, that buys 8 players at a dollar each, and no money for Adminsitation.... Does $8 even get you a shoestring these days?
Jokes guys, just board at work.
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07-02-10, 09:20
Wow, $4Uk Pounds, that's about $8 Aus now, that buys 8 players at a dollar each, and no money for Adminsitation.... Does $8 even get you a shoestring these days?
Jokes guys, just board at work.
Perhaps if you got back to work your spelling might improve...
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07-02-10, 16:27
THE ANNOUNCEMENT OF ALL TEAMS COMPETING IN THE NBL FOR 2010/2011 WILL BE MADE ON FEB.16.
We will know if the Bullets are back for sure. Have heard positive things but that's the confirmation we are all seeking.
Hope I am wrong
09-02-10, 16:28
Everyone is still working hard behind the scenes I am sure but my guess is that Cairns are done as they have no security.
Bullets are also done as they have nothing in place. People have been trying hard but it was most likely doomed from the start with the sructure that had no back bone led by those who have walked away and were leading the charge.
Townsville, Gold Coast, NZ, Adelaide. Melbourne and Perth seem very solid.
Sydney are a given to return with hopefuly an eastern Melbourne group with support from Knox. Kilsyth and Dandenong.
One thing that may save the Bullets is that to get television coverage and sponsorship they may have to prop up the Bullets. Now that may not be such a bad thing but how would you feel if your were in Cairns. So much effort to see the southerners given a leg up when it would appear to an outsider that no real effort has been made at all.
I personally think better to start somewhere and if that means helping Bullets then that is what should happen. We can then move on to Cairns and others down the track.
Trouble in Brisbane is that none of the associations have been even talked to in who knows how long so who would know if they are willing to also take some of the pain to get the Bullets off the ground.
The 16th is not far away and the silence is deafening. Maybe a white Knight will appear but he better have big pockets and a lot of front if he or she is ever going to get an NBL back in Brisbane.
Don't we all wish that we hadn't spent so much time infighting now.
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09-02-10, 21:03
Don't we all wish that we hadn't spent so much time infighting now.
If Bullets and Cairns sadly don't come more needs to be done down south to support Blaze and Logan Wnbl we need to back these teams, still alot of empty seats come game day. More needs to be done to get basketball out there. I would like to see every game shown on Tv for these teams we cant afford to go to all games so it is nice when you can sit down with your family and support our team. Each week. Not once a month for some
At last year BQ AGM Bruce Palmer challenged Pres about what BQ was doing to make sure Bullets were back on board. He was rubbished in front of those in attendance. Neil made a huge statement that they had it under control and Bruce needed to sit down. Today is the day for delivery of what the BQ promised. If they do not deliver they need to stand down. Enough said. Men of honour or men of control?
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16-02-10, 12:55
Looks like it has been postponed to the end of the week...
Silence Deafening
19-02-10, 13:03
With all the silence around the place I fear the Bullets are still another year away.
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24-02-10, 13:14
Is their any news on the brisbane bullets yet?
Ps I can't beleive the Blaze lost it in the last Quarter. Gibbo whats with the missed shots???
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24-02-10, 13:55
Is their any news on the brisbane bullets yet?
Ps I can't beleive the Blaze lost it in the last Quarter. Gibbo whats with the missed shots???
fear of losing
well the Kings have been announced so you would hope that Bullets are following suit in the near future but i'm not going to hold my breath...
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26-02-10, 09:45
The Kings haven't been officially announced....it is a mere formality for sure, but unconfirmed. The NBL is never a sure thing when it comes to a team being saved/reintroduced, and it certainly isn't a done deal in my eyes until the team is on the court.
Another announcement is supposedly due March 2 to announce all competing teams in the NBL for 2010/2011.
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11-03-10, 23:50
Nobody knows anything....I don't think the NBL even knows. The whole saga is pretty pathetic really. Every man and his dog are saying there will be no Brisbane team next year due to lack of funds. Apparantly the interested parties are no longer interested meaning it would take another Eddy to walk on in and save the day. It didn't happen last time and it looks as though it won't happen now.
It also looks as Cairns are done and dusted so we will be having another 8 team season assuming one believes the hype and Sydney return. The NBL just may as well fuck off and die if that's the case. A group of monkeys could do a better job running the sport.
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15-03-10, 21:50
No Bullets next season...probably ever.
Cairns doubtful at best.
Kings back by the looks....
http://www.theaustralian.com.au/news/sport/kings-earn-their-place-but-bullets-look-shot/story-e6frg7mf-1225840211803
Where are you Neil
16-03-10, 16:27
BASKETBALL AUSTRALIA CEO TO REVEAL TEAMS FOR 2010/11 NBL SEASON
Basketball Australia will hold a media conference at BA’s corporate offices in Sydney this Thursday morning (18 March) at 11:00AM to reveal which teams will participate in the 2010/11 National Basketball League season.
The NBL Commission is currently considering submissions from parties who have indicated they want to play in the revamped NBL competition next season and will make the final determination on which teams have satisfied the entry requirements on Wednesday evening.
BA Chief Executive Officer Larry Sengstock will then be joined by the Chair of the NBL Commission Diane Smith-Gander on Thursday morning at 11:00AM to brief media on the make-up of the NBL for next season.
The number of teams that will play in the league, their geographic locations and the format for the Finals will all be revealed.
Sengstock and Smith-Gander will be available for media one-on-one interviews following the briefing.
Media wishing to attend should contact Marc Howard at the Basketball Australia offices on the number below to confirm their participation. Parking is available on site by prior arrangement.
What: BA Media Conference to Announce NBL Teams for 2010/11 Season
Who: Larry Sengstock (Basketball Australia Chief Executive Officer)
Diane Smith-Gander (NBL Commission Chair and BA Board Member)
When: Thursday 18 March – 11:00am
Where: BA Offices, Level 3, 256 Coward Street, Mascot, Sydney
For more information:
Marc Howard
Basketball Australia
Where to now
18-03-10, 12:48
MEDIA RELEASE
18 March 2010
NBL SET TO RETURN TO SYDNEY
The National Basketball League is building on the success of the 2009/10 season and will welcome a new team to the league in 2010/11.
Sydney will once again have a team in the National Basketball League, with Basketball Australia announcing today that a club based in the New South Wales capital would be included amongst the nine teams to make up an expanded NBL competition for the 2010/11 season.
Sydney will join the existing eight clubs who competed in the recently completed NBL season to make up an expanded league in 2010/11. Those other eight teams are the Hood Sweeney Adelaide 36ers, Skytrans Cairns Taipans, Gold Coast Blaze, OAMPS Melbourne Tigers, Burger King New Zealand Breakers, Perth Wildcats, Townsville McDonald’s Crocodiles and Wollongong ahm Hawks.
Whilst the name for the new Sydney team is yet to be revealed, Basketball Australia Chief Executive officer Larry Sengstock said that the group backing the club were a diverse collection of very well respected business people who had a passion for basketball.
“I am delighted to announce that the NBL will be back in Sydney next season, with a very strong consortium making a compelling case for BA to issue them with a license,” said Sengstock. “Their application was unanimously endorsed by the NBL Commission last night and as a result they will take their place in the NBL in season 2010/11.
“Whilst the people backing the new Sydney club have asked to remain anonymous for a little longer until they have had the chance to launch the team properly, I can say that the ownership group has impeccable business credentials. They are also all fully committed to making the Sydney team a long-term success both on and off-the-court, and have embraced the NBL’s renewed community focus. This team will be a side for all of Sydney and will have very strong links to the community.”
NBL Commission Chair Diane Smith-Gander said that the NBL would look to continue to expand its footprint by including a team in Brisbane in the future, but that only teams that have satisfied the new, more stringent financial criteria would be awarded licenses.
“The NBL Commission and the BA Board are taking a controlled and strategic approach to expansion and are not rushing into additional marketplaces before the time is right,” said Smith-Gander. “We have Sydney now and that leaves Brisbane as the only major Australian market in which we don’t have direct representation. We are continuing discussions with a group there and are confident that they will come to fruition, we are targeting the 2011/12 season, but we will not hamstring a team by rushing them into the competition before they are completely ready.
“We need to make sure that we only issue licenses to teams that can meet our criteria and that have the capacity to be successful in the long-term. Sydney and the other eight existing teams all satisfied the NBL Commission that they deserved a license. The NBL will now build on the success of this most recent season, which saw increased attendance and strong television coverage.”
“BA and the NBL have been undergoing a necessary commercial reform process over the past two years,” added Smith-Gander. “The announcement of the nine teams for next season is another significant step in basketball’s growth as a sport.”
The NBL season will start in October 2010 and will conclude in March 2011. The 2011 Finals will once again see the top four teams qualify for the post-season, with one playing four and two playing three in best-of-three Semi Finals. The Grand Final will once again be a best-of-three.
So where's the announcement of a return to games on F2A?
Sorry DJ, but I reckon seeing NBL on F2A TV is going to exist only in our imaginations. With the Foxtel deal being so sought after last season, I reckon that shows the NBL's opinion of free to air Australian basketball. Looks like all those with digital TV are going to have to stick with the NBA regular season and slamball. Damn north west QLD not having digital yet... I miss the F2A days of the Mitsubishi Challenge...
Interesting Article and reader comments on www.brisbanetimes.com.au about the Brisbane Bullets re-entry. Have been meaning to post this for a couple of days...
Hoop dreams shattered
PHIL LUTTON
March 18, 2010
Brisbane will be without a side in next year's National Basketball League after the new line-up of clubs was announced today, including the return of a side based in Sydney.
Sydney will once again have a team in the NBL, with Basketball Australia announcing today that a club based in the New South Wales capital would be included amongst the nine teams to make up an expanded competition for the 2010/11 season.
Sydney will join the existing eight clubs who competed in the recently completed NBL season to make up an expanded league in 2010/11.
Those other eight teams are the Adelaide 36ers, Cairns Taipans, Gold Coast Blaze, Melbourne Tigers, New Zealand Breakers, Perth Wildcats, Townsville Crocodiles and Wollongong Hawks.
But Brisbane fans won't have any local franchise to cheer on, with no team anywhere on the horizon after the Bullets folded in such dramatic circumstances in 2008.
Graham Burns, the chief executive of Basketball Queensland, congratulated the successful clubs but said it was "not the right time" for NBL basketball to return to the state capital.
"Whilst Basketball Queensland is disappointed that there is no team in Brisbane for next season, Queensland still has a large representation in the league and should be proud of the fact that we have three sustainable franchises in place," Burns said.
"Basketball Queensland has worked closely with a private consortium to enter a Brisbane team into the NBL next season.
"However, after extensive work and consultation with Basketball Australia it was determined that this was not the right time and it would need to be reassessed at a later date to ensure sustainability of a Brisbane-based franchise.
"This is a decision that Basketball Queensland supports. Basketball Queensland remains committed to facilitating efforts to reintroduce a Brisbane team back into the NBL and to provide ongoing support to the new Queensland NBL teams at a grassroots level."
The name for the new Sydney team is yet to be revealed, but Basketball Australia chief executive Larry Sengstock said that the group backing the club were a diverse collection of very well respected business people who had a passion for basketball.
"I am delighted to announce that the NBL will be back in Sydney next season, with a very strong consortium making a compelling case for BA to issue them with a license," Sengstock said.
"Their application was unanimously endorsed by the NBL Commission last night and as a result they will take their place in the NBL in season 2010/11."
NBL Commission chair Diane Smith-Gander said league would look to continue to expand its footprint by including a team in Brisbane in the future, but only teams that have satisfied the new, more stringent financial criteria would be awarded licenses.
"The NBL Commission and the BA Board are taking a controlled and strategic approach to expansion and are not rushing into additional marketplaces before the time is right," Smith-Gander said.
"We have Sydney now and that leaves Brisbane as the only major Australian market in which we don't have direct representation. We are continuing discussions with a group there and are confident that they will come to fruition.
"We are targeting the 2011/12 season but we will not hamstring a team by rushing them into the competition before they are completely ready."
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Another sad day for Brisbane. Has Brisbane had anything going for it recently?
Limo | Brisbane - March 18, 2010, 12:06PM
This confirmation is hardly surprising to those in basketball circles.
Basketball Queensland has unanimously decided as judge, jury and executioner that this city is not ready to have something it once had which was successful yet led by Groves who allowed it to sink when his own battles became bigger.
The main problem here appears to be Basketball Queensland themselves and their insulting view that they are equipped to speak on behalf of this city and what it can and can't have.
Basketball Queensland needs to pull put of this three season stalemate stranglehold they have and step aside for a more proactive entity with an unwavering vision to make this a reality and not accept excuse after excuse.
It has been done before and it can be done again- with the right people on the inside and the right attitude shining through.
They have become complacent and it is now like the boy who cried wolf- yet the wolf never shows.
Brisbane is growing restless and the nothing-to-show-for-it pacifist attitude is starting to become insulting.
Basketball Queensland can no longer speak on behalf of what this city deserves- it is up to the community to decide when this city is ready- not them.
They have lost touch and lost their focus and made this project about them, when it isn't.
The fish rots from the head and it is time for them to stop hogging and wasting this opportunity and step aside- only then will we see progress and an outcome that is acceptable to the public.
News Reader | Brisbane - March 18, 2010, 1:46PM
Unregistered
30-03-10, 14:05
How long is it going to take for them to realise that ppl want a team in brisbane.. I hardly watched last season and why was that.. No brisbane team.. They want the league to grow again.. Well going to be a problem with no Brisbane Team..
Let see if they can get there Sh*t sorted for next season..
I miss my Bullets:dunk::dunk
Mate and I were season ticket holders for the last 4 seasons before they shut the doors, had some really good seats and was really cheap to, closet basketball team is gold coast - to far to travel to see games... hope the bullets are back soon or in the near future, having to start a team from scratch would be a daunting task lol
Leroy to Lead
27-07-10, 09:45
BRISBANE NATIONAL BASKETBALL LEAGUE
“Time to move our feet”
The City of Brisbane has for far too long been without a basketball team within the National Basketball League and you are invited to be part of fixing the problem, working together doing something about it, for our great community.
We thank those that have been working behind the scenes in various groups but it is time we all worked together to make possible a team in Brisbane where our young men can aspire to play in the coming years.
I have called a meeting and we will establish a working party that will seek to approach, recruit and encourage the community, members within the sport, government at all levels and business to work towards the establishment of a governing group that would be empowered to deal with Basketball Australia.
Wednesday 11th August
6:30pm
Carina Leagues Club
Creek Road
Carina
Fellow basketball lovers looking to be part of the group need to make known such desire prior to the meeting so I can present to all a solid base from where we can launch our sport back into the elite level.
The meeting has two aim's. One to establish a “team of ten” that will make it happen. Help me to make it possible:-
The “team of ten” starting line up should be :-
Chair person
Finance delegate
Media & promotion
Legal advisor
Basketball Australia representative
Off the bench but just as important:-
3 Team players from Brisbane business community
1 Volunteer recruitment
1 Local Association person
The second aim of the meeting will be to seek financial support from basketball supporters and the Associations and clubs throughout the South East corner of Queensland.
I am looking for :-
5 Business to make a pledge of $10,000 each $ 50,000
100 people to pledge $1000 each $100,000
1000 people to pledge $100 each $100,000
I am asking each Association to give $1000 towards the fight to get an NBL team back in Brisbane. I am also asking each Association to find 20 families who will give $100 each.
The $250,000 I hope to raise will enable our group to get a professional proposal together to take to the State Government and the corporate world. This money, I promise, will be answerable and audited by Basketball Australia.
We will also look to set an Agenda for outcomes:-
a. Seek BA/BQ approval
b. Establishment time frames
c. Nominate "Face of Team'
d. Establish finance requirements
e. Recruit CEO
f. Establish 5 year operational plan with
ongoing strategies to ensure long term viability
This can only happen if people, such as yourself, make the effort to attend. Please be part of the answer.
Yours in basketball
Leroy Loggins
Additional information contact email sdbal@bigpond.net.au
Courier Mail
27-07-10, 12:06
In the courier Mail last Sunday.
SOME months back, The Ear reported a strange rumour that Brisbane was about to get a new NBL team. It was strange because try as I might I couldn't confirm it. But things are taking more of shape with news Bullets basketball legend Leroy Loggins is involved in a push to get NBL back to Brisbane. On August 11, there is a meeting at Carina Leagues Club to establish a working party to "approach, recruit and encourage the community, members within the sport, government and business to work towards the establishment of a Brisbane team." It is ridiculous Brisbane doesn't have a team in the NBL and the sport continues to have a Brisbane presence in the lower divisions. It is no secret one of the most professional of the "semi-professional" clubs in Brisbane is the Spartans basketball.
BQ getting involved
27-07-10, 12:25
An email BQ are sending out to get Associations involved. Have your say when you visit your local stadium this week. Every bit helps. Well done BQ.
TO: ALL MEMBER ASSOCIATIONS IN THE BRISBANE AND SURROUNDING REGION
Attached is an open letter from Leroy Loggins in relation to a meeting which will be held:
Date: Wednesday 11th August
Time: 6:30pm
Where: Carina Leagues Club, Creek Road, Carina
Leroy is trying to get momentum behind a Brisbane NBL Team for the 2011/12 season and is asking for the support of Associations in Brisbane and the surrounding region. I encourage you to come along on the 11th August if you are interested in seeing an NBL team back in Brisbane.
Regards
Graham Burns Chief Executive Officer Basketball Queensland
Unregistered
27-07-10, 15:36
Will be interesting to see what traction the new Sydney Kings can generate this year when they return to the NBL. If they do not perform the Sydney public will write them off just as they did the last incarnation of the Razorbacks/Kings. That would probably be the end of the NBL in potentially its biggest market but will also provide some lessons to the Brisbane folk trying to re-establish a team.
Still moving
28-07-10, 15:14
BRISBANE NBL BACK ON AGENDA
Retired basketball legend and “Queensland Sports Hall of Famer”, Leroy Loggins, today announced his intention to become involved in getting the Brisbane Bullets back into the National Basketball League in 2011.
“It’s a damn shame what has happened” he offered. “We all worked so hard for so long to just let the team cease to exist like this. I want the next generation and the one after that to be able to remember with pride what Brisbane did and those that built it up from what it was’.
Basketball was played, in what many considered a tin shed at Auchenflower, when a skinny American, Leroy Loggins, was recruited by Brian Kerle to come to Brisbane as part of the then Brisbane Basketball Association, one of the founding clubs of the NBL.
Not long after a former Queensland country kid called Larry Sengstock returned to Brisbane from Victoria and brought with him Thursday Islander, Danny Morseu who was also playing in Victoria. The on court trio under Kerle’s direction and marketing made the Bullets a house hold name with schools clamouring for clinics and the sport of basketball was booming.
Even former Lord Mayor, Clem Jones, got the bug and built Queensland’s first four stadium the Rowland Cowan Stadium in Carina. The Gold Coast followed as did Townsville and Cairns with Queensland having at one time nearly one third of all NBL teams playing.
That was the great era for the sport, which then found other sports imitating its success, through off field promotions, with entertainment for the corporate sector.
While the sport continues to grow at the domestic level and within the juniors ranks, an NBL Brisbane franchise, as part of the NBL, continues to struggle in getting established with no home venue from where to base itself.
The meeting to be held at the Carina Leagues Club on Wednesday, August 11th at 6:30pm is where many are hoping that the business community and local Associations can establish a management group that will be able to set in place a plan to ensure Brisbane has a team in the NBL in 2011.
Loggins added “We are hoping to get a team together, of successful businessmen, along with a group of supporters willing to make financial commitment so we can put in place someone to start the ball rolling. I need people who enjoyed what we had and are willing to help me get it back to stand up, come to the meeting and get involved. I can not do this on my own”.
All enquiries should be directed to Leroy Loggins on sdbal@bigpond.net.au
ENDS
More discussion
29-07-10, 07:29
I can not believe that getting the Bullets back is raising such little interest, We do not deserve a team in NBL. Every club should have a person driving the fundraising side along. Has anyone from thise site donated $100. I have. Time to stand up guys. Either we all find $100 or we do not get the team back.
Leroy was on tele last night talking up Brisbane NBL. Looks like it is really picking up some momentum.
Courier Mail
10-08-10, 14:04
http://www.couriermail.com.au/sport/leroy-loggins-keen-to-bring-back-the-b
risbane-bullets/story-e6frep5o-1225903129214
Comments on this storyScott of Nudgee Posted at 8:54 AM Today
Good on you Leroy. Good luck!
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Cougar 11 of Earth Posted at 8:56 AM Today
If anyone can make this happen Leroy can. Looks fit enough to once again don the Bullets singlet. But if the Bullets are not ready, the Cougars are ready to enter the NBL and fill the void in Brisbane.
Comment 2 of 5
Jake of Queensland Posted at 9:21 AM Today
Go for it Leroy, having met you a number of times and being an ex-basketballer who played for 28 years from C-Grade to A-Grade Brisbane club level through to Masters (certainly not at your level), I was horrified that the franchise was let go. I attended many of the nights at Boondall when 12,000 people would turn up for a regular season club game where you, Ronnie Radliff, Cal Bruton, Jon Dorge, Larry Sengstock, Robert Sibley, Danny Morseau and later Andre Moore and Emery Atkinson put on shows that couldn't be beaten. In my opinion, you would make a great coach or CEO. I hope you can raise the capital and that your work with underprivilaged children in the community is recognised by corporate support. If I still lived in Brisbane, I'd be at your meeting trying to help.
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E Hawk of Woolloongabba QLD Posted at 10:30 AM Today
Leroy! Leroy! Right on, get some bounce back in Brisbane basketball. One thing though, leave the previous and current administrators of Brisbane/Qld basketball out in the cold. They are the problem,the self indulging nature of current Brisbane/Qld basketball administrators are better served running rsl clubs... Brisbane basketball deserves so much better - than the the drab no atmosphere dished up most recently...
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William Denon of Brisbane Posted at 12:01 PM Today
Leroy is a Bullets Legend it would be great to get a team and bring them back the their former glory....1.....
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SENGSTOCK TO ATTEND BRISBANE NBL MEETING TONIGHT
Basketball Australia Chief Executive Officer and National Basketball League General Manager Chuck Harmison will travel to Brisbane tonight (Wednesday 11 August) to attend a meeting with a group of parties interested in bringing an NBL team back to Brisbane.
The meeting, which will be held at Carina Leagues Club at 6:30PM local Brisbane time, has been initiated by former Brisbane Bullets legend Leroy Loggins with the stated goal of bringing together all interested parties with the aim of re-establishing a Brisbane presence in the NBL.
Basketball Australia has previously expressed a willingness to support any and all legitimate attempts to re-establish a sustainable Brisbane NBL team. Sengstock and Harmison will attend the meeting to answer questions from the attendees around the league requirements to obtain an NBL license.
Sengstock will be available to take media questions following the completion of the meeting, which is scheduled to be at approximately 9:30PM.
It is so important that we all get behind the Leroy NBL bid as it may well be our last real chance. Here are 15 names that are the very reason we must make it work.
SEQ PLAYERS
NAME CLUB NOW
Clint Steindle BBI St. Marys USA
Jorden Page MDORE St. Marys USA
Christian Salecich SD St. Louis USA
Matt Massey BBI So. Utah USA
Mitch Young LBI St. Marys USA
Matt Hodgson BBI So. Utah USA
Cameron Bairstow BBI New Mexico USA
Brock Motum BBI Wash State USA
Corban Wroe BBI AIS Aus U 19
Mitchell McCarron BBI AIS Aus U 19
Garrett Scheibner BBI Aus U 17
Brendon Carroll BBI Aus U 17
Josh Derksen SD Aus Jr camp
Cade Towers SD Aus Jr camp
Jason Ralph IBI Aus Jr Camp
Guys lets make this happen.
SENGSTOCK “OPTIMISTIC” AFTER BRISBANE NBL MEETING
Basketball Australia (BA) Chief Executive Officer Larry Sengstock says he has renewed optimism that the National Basketball League can once again have a Brisbane-based team in the competition following a meeting in the Queensland capital last night.
More than 50 people who are committed to trying to regain an NBL license for Brisbane met at Carina Leagues Club last night at a gathering initiated by former Brisbane Bullets legend Leroy Loggins.
Sengstock and NBL General Manager of Operations Chuck Harmison attended the meeting as representatives of BA and Sengstock said he came away from the gathering heartened by the possibility of reintroducing a Brisbane team to the competition in the future.
“The meeting in Brisbane last night was well attended and out of it a ten-person working party has been formed comprising individuals with a range of key skill sets and business experience who will look to drive their bid for an NBL license,” said Sengstock. “NBL General Manager Chuck Harmison will be working very closely with the group as will representatives from Basketball Queensland and a number of the local Brisbane associations.
“This group has been formed to draft up a plan to consider how best to put together a viable business model for a Brisbane NBL team, and more specifically how to target the key decision makers and government departments to help achieve their goal. They are getting down to business immediately and will be meeting this weekend.
“After witnessing the passion, work ethic and shared vision displayed by the group at the meeting last night, I am feeling optimistic that there could indeed be a Brisbane team in the NBL for season 2011/12. Clearly there is a great deal of hard work that lays ahead for this to become a reality however and ultimately this group will need to rally appropriate financial backing as well as corporate and community support by November if they are to have a chance of obtaining a license in time for the 2011/12 season.”
“Whilst we remain supportive of any and all attempts to reintroduce a team to Brisbane, ultimately BA will only grant a license to a new team when they can demonstrate that they have in place a clear plan for ensuring their long-term financial stability,” concluded Sengstock.
For more information:
Marc Howard
Manager – NBL Media, Communications & Internet
Mob +61 419 512 139 •Tel +61 2 9469 7213 • Fax +61 2 9469 7201
Bullets Fan
15-09-10, 16:52
We may be gathering some interest....
http://au.news.yahoo.com/thewest/spo...r-rebuilt-nbl/
Bullets Fan
15-09-10, 16:55
We may be gathering some interest....
http://au.news.yahoo.com/thewest/spo...r-rebuilt-nbl/
Sorry try this: http://au.news.yahoo.com/thewest/sport/a/-/basketball/7936137/brisbane-next-stop-for-rebuilt-nbl/
Unregistered
17-09-10, 11:21
A CONTROVERSIAL television commercial portraying a Sydney Kings basketball player hopping into bed with a married couple has been branded as racist and in appalling taste.
The offensive ad has outraged African American legends of the game and thrown the National Basketball League into turmoil on the eve of its first game.
In the closing scenes of the new ad, which sees a ball thrown around a suburban house, Kings import Taj McCullough is seen jumping into bed between the couple before nuzzling the woman beside him.
The ad has been on high rotation on Ten's One HD but outraged several black former NBL stars at the league's recent Hall of Fame dinner held in Melbourne.
For some, it immediately evoked memories of former Sydney Kings player Bryant Matthews, who was jailed for rape when he was found in similar circumstances as an unwanted third person in bed with a couple in Sydney in 2006.
"I couldn't believe it," Boomers and Brisbane Bullets legend Leroy Loggins said.
"Why would you show a black American jumping into bed with a man's wife to promote basketball? I don't even know how someone could think up a commercial like that. You would never see any other sport in the world, that takes themselves seriously, portraying a black athlete that way."
NBL legend Darryl McDonald said: "It puts black Americans in a bad light. That commercial has nothing to do with basketball. Nobody else would present their sport this way. It's supposed to be in fun but not everyone will think the same way."
NBL Hall of Famer Cal Bruton said he had contacted Basketball Australia and Ten about the offending ad.
"They are treading a minefield of racism," Bruton said.
He said he was told by BA chairwoman Diane Smith-Gander that the promotion would be "pulled", while Ten's head of sport David White told him via email his remarks were "pertinent and duly noted".
Yet the advertisement was still on air yesterday and Ten's head of sport marketing Sam Heard said there was no chance it would be axed.
"It is designed as a fun, light-hearted promo highlighting the fact the NBL is back in people's homes, on free-to-air air television," he said.
The NBL is desperate to rebuild its image after the collapse of several teams and the return of the Kings in the highly competitive Sydney sporting market.
"It was not meant to offend," BA's Larry Sengstock said.
Read more: http://www.news.com.au/entertainment/television/tens-basketball-ad-branded-racist/story-e6frfmyi-1225925110322#ixzz0zk2PKLL5
Unregistered
30-11-10, 20:30
The latest in the media about the Leroy inspired push to have Brisbane back in the NBL. Nothing new - the passion and best intentions but no backer to finance us.
http://www.adelaidenow.com.au/sport/basketball/bullets-bid-still-off-target/story-e6frect3-1225955406641
Unregistered
09-12-10, 20:23
http://www.adelaidenow.com.au/sport/basketball/another-brisbane-and-melbourne-franchise-on-horizon/story-e6frect3-1225968188110
Unregistered
16-12-10, 00:03
Extension until the end of January. We will know the story then. Keep the faith and keep supporting the cause and Leroy Loggins and his team however possible.
Positive article re Bullets possibly back in 2012/13
http://www.theaustralian.com.au/news/sport/nbl-close-to-reloading-bullets-into-competition/story-e6frg7mf-1226120763923
Anybody able to elaborate more on the planning etc?
Positive article re Bullets possibly back in 2012/13
http://www.theaustralian.com.au/news/sport/nbl-close-to-reloading-bullets-into-competition/story-e6frg7mf-1226120763923
Anybody able to elaborate more on the planning etc?
Seems new chair of BBI has some real contacts who have real money. The issue will be BBI want to do on own and not involve other Associations. Good luck to them but history repeats and given they have now also committed to SEABL members money may not last long. Should make for some great rivalry in the future. Logan and District supporting Blaze with other Associations cheering Brisbane on. Given both NBL programs will also have a SEABL team that game also will be a lock out.
The pity of this all is that Sengstock, as far as I am aware, has not done one thing to get a WNBL team back to Brisbane.
Unregistered
28-08-11, 20:15
Seems new chair of BBI has some real contacts who have real money. The issue will be BBI want to do on own and not involve other Associations. Good luck to them but history repeats and given they have now also committed to SEABL members money may not last long. Should make for some great rivalry in the future. Logan and District supporting Blaze with other Associations cheering Brisbane on. Given both NBL programs will also have a SEABL team that game also will be a lock out.
The pity of this all is that Sengstock, as far as I am aware, has not done one thing to get a WNBL team back to Brisbane.
Isn't Logan classifed as Brisbane????
Unregistered
29-08-11, 14:36
Isn't Logan classifed as Brisbane????
it's close enough.
it's close enough.
I think mark Dalton had more to do with WNBL coming to Logan them Larry did.
Unregistered
29-08-11, 15:44
if logan is classified part of brisbane, then wnbl is already back in brisbane
did you want two wnbl teams in brissy? that isn't a bit unrealistic is it
Unregistered
29-08-11, 20:42
I think mark Dalton had more to do with WNBL coming to Logan them Larry did.
Thats a big 10-4.
Dalton been hanging out with old friends on the Sunny Coast a bit lately and with ex-Sydney Kings colleagues establishing themselves up there wouldnt be surprised to see sister Karen and some of her WNBL colleagues following suite.
Unregistered
30-08-11, 06:59
Thats a big 10-4.
Dalton been hanging out with old friends on the Sunny Coast a bit lately and with ex-Sydney Kings colleagues establishing themselves up there wouldnt be surprised to see sister Karen and some of her WNBL colleagues following suite.
Wrong coast there mate, Dalton's son is playing down the coast and that's where he and the fam will more than likely end up.
Melbourne Tigers versus Wollongong Hawks
- Rowland Cowan Basketball Stadium, Carina
Friday the 23rd September will be one of the biggest nights ever at the Rowland Cowan Basketball Stadium as Portland Trailblazer Patty Mills and the Melbourne Tigers take on former Southern Districts Spartan juniors Tim Coenraad and Rhys Martin, now team members at the Wollongong Hawks as part of the pre-season NBL Sunshine State Challenge. The clash which will also feature another Spartans junior in Tigers Captain Cameron Tragardh.
In what appears to be a great match up with Wollongong the 2009/10 NBL Grand-Finalists containing several NBL player including veterans Glen Saville, Matthew Campbell, Larry Davidson and Oscar Forman face the Tigers who along with Mills and Tragardh boast the import duo of Ron Dorsey and Ayinde Ubaka who led Cairns to the Grand Final series last season.
The Tigers who pulled off one of the biggest signings in NBL history with the acquisition of Mills look to build momentum in the pre-season following two disappointing seasons and have had a change over of players and coaches in the past year after the departure of Alan Westover but have brought in former Townsville Crocodiles head coach Trevor Gleeson to bring the club back to the top.
Melbourne have already shown good signs in the pre-season after defeating an understrength Gold Coast Blaze side in two games in Toowoomba and Coffs Harbour.
But the task against the Hawks will not be easy as Wollongong have kept the nucleus of the playing group from the past few season in tact and have added exciting new imports in Joevan Catron and Donavan Monroe. The Hawks also appear to be ready for the upcoming season defeating the Sydney Kings 82-54 at the Snakepit last weekend.
With the match being played at Carina, it will give all Spartans and basketball fans in Brisbane the exciting oppurtunity to watch one of Australia's biggest basketball stars in Mills as well as all the former Spartans juniors now playing in the National basketball League Tragardh, Coenraad and Martin. Former Spartans SEABL player and current Wollongong guard Tyson Demos will also return in what is seen to be a clash between two probable heavyweights of the 2011/12 season.
Do not miss this oppurtunity to see Australia's biggest basketball stars go head to head at the great Rowland Cowan Basketball Stadium.
Tip-off is at 7:00pm on Friday 23rd August with tickets available from Wednesday at the stadium. Limited box and VIP seating also available.
ENDS www.sdspartans.basketball.net.au email sdbal@bigpond.net.au Phone 3398 2790
Word is that there is to be a media release tomorrow in mall about NBL in Brisbane.
Unregistered
12-10-11, 18:48
This article would have been great without the reference to Aucheflower!!!!
http://www.brisbanetimes.com.au/sport/basketball/reloading-bullets-on-agenda-20111011-1lj43.html
Yeah I was thinking the same thing, obviously didn't do his research there (no offence to Auchy).
Last night
17-10-11, 13:58
If last nights display in atendance and presentation at southbank was a sign of what we can expect from reborn Bullets insiders as far a professional team in the NBL it wil not be a long return.
Whether it was Blaze and Taipans or not the support from Brisbane fans is weak and shallow. The Hamilton Smith family trying to gather signatures for the BBI bid (I think it was that one) was a complete failure with no one caring. If they were working for new bid from a suggested outsider and this is the best they can do we are in even more trouble.
Talk about caring how was the failure of Blaze players to turn up for the signing for fans after the game.
Our sport is in a huge hole being led by old boys wanting to re-live the old days and one very chuuuuuuuuuubby adminitrator who has the basketball community getting very tired of do what I say show. Heard there is possibly or has been four seperate legal actions started against the powers from people starting to stand up to those that must be obeyed.
As one involved with company that once sponsored the Bulllets not a chance in hell in the coming years. Happy to support the Blaze no matter how bad they are playing at present. At least there I know the old boys have no influence.
Time to forget the glory days the Bullets were and start alover again even if it menas another year out of the NBL.
By the way did anyone notice the coverage (nil) tha NBL game receieved in print media. Sengstock needs to stop talking the talk and start talking to the grass roots as that is where a real community based and supported team will come form.
Unregistered
18-10-11, 23:36
If last nights display in atendance and presentation at southbank was a sign of what we can expect from reborn Bullets insiders as far a professional team in the NBL it wil not be a long return.
Whether it was Blaze and Taipans or not the support from Brisbane fans is weak and shallow. The Hamilton Smith family trying to gather signatures for the BBI bid (I think it was that one) was a complete failure with no one caring. If they were working for new bid from a suggested outsider and this is the best they can do we are in even more trouble.
Talk about caring how was the failure of Blaze players to turn up for the signing for fans after the game.
Our sport is in a huge hole being led by old boys wanting to re-live the old days and one very chuuuuuuuuuubby adminitrator who has the basketball community getting very tired of do what I say show. Heard there is possibly or has been four seperate legal actions started against the powers from people starting to stand up to those that must be obeyed.
As one involved with company that once sponsored the Bulllets not a chance in hell in the coming years. Happy to support the Blaze no matter how bad they are playing at present. At least there I know the old boys have no influence.
Time to forget the glory days the Bullets were and start alover again even if it menas another year out of the NBL.
By the way did anyone notice the coverage (nil) tha NBL game receieved in print media. Sengstock needs to stop talking the talk and start talking to the grass roots as that is where a real community based and supported team will come form.
Would love to support a Brisbane team in the NBL and WNBL - when I see some new names, new start, new name for the team, then I will think about supporting this. We need an injection of fresh people to have any chance of support and success.
Unregistered
19-10-11, 12:35
If you think starting afresh and alienating all of the loyal Bullets fans is a good idea you have no idea. It will be hard enough re-energising the team against a fierce market of other sports, let alone expecting people to support a new team with a shit name.
Forget it. No Bullets=No support
Unregistered
19-10-11, 17:02
If you think starting afresh and alienating all of the loyal Bullets fans is a good idea you have no idea. It will be hard enough re-energising the team against a fierce market of other sports, let alone expecting people to support a new team with a shit name.
Forget it. No Bullets=No support
Dont think there's anything wrong with the name 'Bullets', though a person game enough to spend millions would be entitled to name them after his grandkids if he wanted to.
You might (or might not) find from a marketing perspective the 'Bullets' brand has had it's day and perhaps market research might determine what the actual name is. Whatever the name, it would be Brisbane's NBL team. I think the poster was more getting at the behind the scenes people, the admin and the people who seek to control it all (without having the $$$ to actually do that legitimately)
Who knows, dig deep enough and you might find that it's the presence of those influences that has actually deterred big business from investing in a franchise thus far? Not saying it as fact, just a possibility. Has anyone enquired?
Unregistered
19-10-11, 17:28
If last nights display in atendance and presentation at southbank was a sign of what we can expect from reborn Bullets insiders as far a professional team in the NBL it wil not be a long return.
Whether it was Blaze and Taipans or not the support from Brisbane fans is weak and shallow. The Hamilton Smith family trying to gather signatures for the BBI bid (I think it was that one) was a complete failure with no one caring. If they were working for new bid from a suggested outsider and this is the best they can do we are in even more trouble.
Talk about caring how was the failure of Blaze players to turn up for the signing for fans after the game.
Our sport is in a huge hole being led by old boys wanting to re-live the old days and one very chuuuuuuuuuubby adminitrator who has the basketball community getting very tired of do what I say show. Heard there is possibly or has been four seperate legal actions started against the powers from people starting to stand up to those that must be obeyed.
As one involved with company that once sponsored the Bulllets not a chance in hell in the coming years. Happy to support the Blaze no matter how bad they are playing at present. At least there I know the old boys have no influence.
Time to forget the glory days the Bullets were and start alover again even if it menas another year out of the NBL.
By the way did anyone notice the coverage (nil) tha NBL game receieved in print media. Sengstock needs to stop talking the talk and start talking to the grass roots as that is where a real community based and supported team will come form.
Always a pleasure to get on here and see complete nonsense coming from the Southside.
Point A - The stand to "Bring Back the Bullets" at the Blaze game was a NBL promotion, so the pot shots at those listed above are both incorrect and unreasonable.
Point B - The Blaze players DID attend the autograph session and I have the autograph to prove it.
Which players
19-10-11, 17:54
Always a pleasure to get on here and see complete nonsense coming from the Southside.
Point A - The stand to "Bring Back the Bullets" at the Blaze game was a NBL promotion, so the pot shots at those listed above are both incorrect and unreasonable.
Point B - The Blaze players DID attend the autograph session and I have the autograph to prove it.
Point A If that was a BA promotion then we are all in trouble.
Point B Tell me what players turned up and if so how long after the game. Bench buddies do not count to kids. When I left the original line was less then half the size it started at. No player who had taken the court was there.
As far as your opening shot about the Southside no wonder the Bullets are dead with the mentality of us and them. This is vile stuff from a person who seems to be one of the "Old Days" are best mentality. Sit down and have a good long look at what you are saying.
If I am not wrong it was the southsiders (as you call them) who called the meeting to get interest back in the Bullets. They are the ones who got the committee started from where one of the current bids was identified. You reallly need to get you facts right.
We all want an NBL team back in Brisbane. It is no secret that television will walk away after this season unless there is a team in Brisbane. After that it is over so lets stop with this north south nonesense.
As a long-term junior club and rep coach I'm quite happy for the Bullets to stay defunct unless I can get a guarantee that the new team will do some development with the kids outside their weekly fixtures. Our Rep games are on Sat night and quite a few Assoc club fixtures run on Friday night, precluding kids and parents from attending most games (?). Their awareness of NBL will be very limited unless the new entity is out and exposing themselves to those involved in jnr basketball.
Having said that, well done to the Blaze and Spartans for offering ticket package deals for jnr players and (Spartans) involving the younger members of their D League/SEABL team in coaching U18 SC. Also good to see GC D League Captain (not sure if he is Captain, but def one of their best players) involved in 16 Boys Rep. These type of things show the kids that there are pathways and give us coaches from other Assoc ways to promote vs other sports like AFL.
Unregistered
19-10-11, 22:41
Would love to take the family to a game but as quoted my kids play rep but if I could pay a fee to see all the games of the season on foxtel so I can record it I would or have it on foxtel on demand. If I could buy NBL merchandise wether it be at sports store or target etc but again nothing we follow everything basketball( if We can find it ) and we have trouble,how do you expect other you want to bring in the ones other then basketballers to make this work Aussies like a good game but they got to know about it first. Get it and the players in the Media !!!!!!
And to get those seat full free seating to all kids who play basketball you will make the money up on merchandise and food and parent seating better a full stadium the a half empty after all they are the stars of the future.
As a long-term junior club and rep coach I'm quite happy for the Bullets to stay defunct unless I can get a guarantee that the new team will do some development with the kids outside their weekly fixtures. Our Rep games are on Sat night and quite a few Assoc club fixtures run on Friday night, precluding kids and parents from attending most games (?). Their awareness of NBL will be very limited unless the new entity is out and exposing themselves to those involved in jnr basketball.
Having said that, well done to the Blaze and Spartans for offering ticket package deals for jnr players and (Spartans) involving the younger members of their D League/SEABL team in coaching U18 SC. Also good to see GC D League Captain (not sure if he is Captain, but def one of their best players) involved in 16 Boys Rep. These type of things show the kids that there are pathways and give us coaches from other Assoc ways to promote vs other sports like AFL.
Unregistered
20-10-11, 09:18
Just summing up a variety of points mentioned above. It is a shame that the Bullets folded - plain and simple. The Bullets were up for sale in 1999, and people weren't exactly falling over one another to buy the team. A guy called Eddy Groves purchased the team, and the rest is history until the guy went belly up financially. And here we are.
Most people in Brisbane(who are not diehard fans) think there is
A) Still a team in the NBL
B) Think Leroy Loggins still plays for this team
C) Games are still at Boondall and you get to watch the Mushroom gee up the crowd
For whatever reason the sport declined from the mid 90's and hasn't reached those lofty heights since. So crowd wise we have gone from anywhere between 8,000-15,000 in the heyday. The Convention Centre held around 4,000-4500. If the team returns and actually re-markets itself I can't see how some of those people wouldn't be drawn back. I can only speculate why people stopped going to games.
If the team isn't called the Bullets, you are starting from way behind the eight ball. As I said above, anyone over 25 knows who the Bullets are. If you changed the name you would be alienating all of those former fans yet trying to build a new fan base. Forget it. Nobody would be that stupid. A part of the success of competitions like the English Premier League and the AFL is the rich history of clubs. Fans are harboured through family connections. Just ask Dragon or Titans/Giants fans.
Yes, I agree grassroots are important. But basketball associations need to work with the Bullets also to come up with a strategy that is mutually beneficial. As far as merchandise goes - of course you won't find any now, but up until the team folded Hoop 2 Hoop at Springwood did a fantastic job. Sure, they probably could have advertised more but that costs money. If you wanted merchandise badly enough you could have found it. Maybe instead of relying on billboards and in your face tv commercials you could have just rung the club?
As far as this Northside/Southside thing I have no idea what that's about, but no person or persons are bigger than the club. Why punish the Bullets brand because some people behind the scenes are not doing the right thing? If we held grudges I wouldn't be supporting the team after the way they treated Leroy at the end of his career.
As far as television pulling out if there is no Brisbane team, I have heard that all before. If the television is pulled it is tens/One HD's fault because they have never been able to televise sport to save themselves. They screwed basketball over in the late 90's before the ABC took it on.
At the end of the day, you can argue all you like. But unless there is another Eddy Groves out there who is willing to open his wallet, there will be no team anyway. I just hope somebody out there who loves the sport and the Bullets can see past the financial aspects and give the community back the Bulllets. Why would anybody risk starting a new team that is guarenteed to lose money? Any Brisbane team must be called the Bullets. End of story.
Unregistered
20-10-11, 15:08
Why would anybody risk starting a new team that is guarenteed to lose money? Any Brisbane team must be called the Bullets. End of story.
Typical comment! and if a new Bullets team comes with all the usual hangers on in the background then I have no interest. end of story.
Unregistered
20-10-11, 16:41
Why would anybody risk starting a new team that is guarenteed to lose money? Any Brisbane team must be called the Bullets. End of story.
Typical comment! and if a new Bullets team comes with all the usual hangers on in the background then I have no interest. end of story.
Okay....to get you interested we will wipe any notion of a foundation club that had a massive supporter base and start afresh with a new team in a marketplace where several sports are all competing for a slice of the corporate dollar. It worked wonders for "new teams" like the South Dragons and North Queensland Fury. The Brisbane Bombers have been very well received to go up against the Broncos. Maybe we should abolish the NBL while we are at it and relaunch with all new names across each team. All those "hanger ons" will just have to get over it.
I'm glad you have no interest and you clearly have no loyalty or sense of what it means to be a supporter.
Unregistered
07-11-11, 11:47
Brisbane Basketball Inc. as part of the "Bring Back the Bullets" Campaign will be hosting an open 3 on 3 Tournament from 11th -13th December, prize money of up to $1000 for each team that WINS!
There will be five divisions for both Men & Women - Veterans (35+), Open (23+), Junior (19-22), Sophomore (16-18) & Freshman (15 & Under). Ages are as of 31st December 2011 to qualify for a specific division. This competition is open to all players and there is a limit of 12 teams per division nomination fee of $200 per team (4 players) covers game fees as well as nomination fees.
First teams to nominate will receive confirmation of their acceptance into Tournament once payment and registration form below is completed and returned to BBI Office via fax (07) 3870 3043 or email at rep@brisbanebasketball.com.au.
When: Sunday 11th - Tuesday 13th December
Where: NAB Stadium (formerly Vince Hickey Basketball Stadium) 16 Dixon St, Auchenflower
Who: Vets Men & Women (35+), Open Men & Women (23+), Junior Men & Women (19-22), Sophomore Men & Women (16-18) & Freshman Men & Women (15 & Under) (*Ages specifically based on age as at 31st December 2011)
Prize: WINNERS - $1000, Runners-Up - Plenty of Vouchers & Prizes to be won
Cost: $200 per team (must have 4 players per team)
NOMINATIONS CLOSE WEDNESDAY 7th DECEMBER!!!! First in first served!
To register download the form below, complete and pay at BBI office or over phone or Cheque to BBI 3on3 email your nomination form to rep@brisbanebasketball.com.au
*Tournament format subject to change as per Organising Chairman should there be insufficient numbers, will operate as per FIBA 3x3 rules, which you can find under 3x3 on Menu.
www.brisbane.basketball.net.au
Unregistered
07-11-11, 15:42
Brisbane Basketball Inc. as part of the "Bring Back the Bullets" Campaign will be hosting an open 3 on 3 Tournament from 11th -13th December, prize money of up to $1000 for each team that WINS!
There will be five divisions for both Men & Women - Veterans (35+), Open (23+), Junior (19-22), Sophomore (16-18) & Freshman (15 & Under). Ages are as of 31st December 2011 to qualify for a specific division. This competition is open to all players and there is a limit of 12 teams per division nomination fee of $200 per team (4 players) covers game fees as well as nomination fees.
First teams to nominate will receive confirmation of their acceptance into Tournament once payment and registration form below is completed and returned to BBI Office via fax (07) 3870 3043 or email at rep@brisbanebasketball.com.au.
When: Sunday 11th - Tuesday 13th December
Where: NAB Stadium (formerly Vince Hickey Basketball Stadium) 16 Dixon St, Auchenflower
Who: Vets Men & Women (35+), Open Men & Women (23+), Junior Men & Women (19-22), Sophomore Men & Women (16-18) & Freshman Men & Women (15 & Under) (*Ages specifically based on age as at 31st December 2011)
Prize: WINNERS - $1000, Runners-Up - Plenty of Vouchers & Prizes to be won
Cost: $200 per team (must have 4 players per team)
NOMINATIONS CLOSE WEDNESDAY 7th DECEMBER!!!! First in first served!
To register download the form below, complete and pay at BBI office or over phone or Cheque to BBI 3on3 email your nomination form to rep@brisbanebasketball.com.au
*Tournament format subject to change as per Organising Chairman should there be insufficient numbers, will operate as per FIBA 3x3 rules, which you can find under 3x3 on Menu.
www.brisbane.basketball.net.au
"Prize: WINNERS - $1000"
or
"prize money of up to $1000 for each team that WINS"
"Prize: WINNERS - $1000"
or
"prize money of up to $1000 for each team that WINS"
$10,000 in prize money if all grades compete. I am guessing refs will be about $10 a game. That means you have to have 6 teams per grade to break even. That means 36 people per grade a total of 360 people willing to play over three days, two of which are workdays just before Xmas. Me thinks she who must be obeyed has been working with he who promises all but never delivers. Good luck if they pull it off but my guess it will have maybe two grades with the 6 teams needed. I am willing to bet the Bullets Back campaign gets nothing out of this,,,,,, Why you ask? There is no way BBI wil give courts up for free so any profit will be eaten up...................... Lets call it what it is. BBI trying to make some money just before Xmas. That said nothing wrong with that I just do not agree with how it is being presented.
Unregistered
07-11-11, 20:53
I am confused, Is this "Bring Back the Bullets" tournament raising money to get the Bullets back or not. If the money is going towards The Bullets it would be a good idea to make checks/payments in their name you would get a lot more entries that way. Otherwise if the money isn't going towards the Bullets its a bit deceiving.
$10,000 in prize money if all grades compete. I am guessing refs will be about $10 a game. That means you have to have 6 teams per grade to break even. That means 36 people per grade a total of 360 people willing to play over three days, two of which are workdays just before Xmas. Me thinks she who must be obeyed has been working with he who promises all but never delivers. Good luck if they pull it off but my guess it will have maybe two grades with the 6 teams needed. I am willing to bet the Bullets Back campaign gets nothing out of this,,,,,, Why you ask? There is no way BBI wil give courts up for free so any profit will be eaten up...................... Lets call it what it is. BBI trying to make some money just before Xmas. That said nothing wrong with that I just do not agree with how it is being presented.
Once again this whole thing has been poorly organised and rushed out there with more holes than a block of swiss chesse. Why take three days to have a 3 on 3 tournamaent? I mean really, with two of the days being mid week. BQ tried and failed miserably with this concept, the wonderboy at BBI thinks he can do it properly. Needs to get the concept right, and this is not the correct way to do it.
Also is there actually an official "bring back the bullets campaign"? If there is surely checks should be made out to that and not BBI?
With BBI openly strugglinig for cash, and it is common knowledge that they are in cash flow strife. Traditionally the time just before Christmas is the slowest in terms of money coming in, looks to be a grab for cash to make the books look better before their end of finanacial year on December 31.
Word on the street is that BBI members can expect ALL fees to jump on Jan 1. The business that is now BBI needs lots of cash to feed the myraid of paid staff and cash grabs like this will not feed the growing monster that is the expanding paid staff at BBI.
My advise is sign up if you want to play in a concept that is 3 on 3 basketball. Do not expect to recieve anywhere near the thousand dollars promoted on the spam above if you win. Do not expect any money to reach the bring back the Bullets campaign. Your call
Unregistered
08-11-11, 23:47
Word on the street is that BBI members can expect ALL fees to jump on Jan 1. The business that is now BBI needs lots of cash to feed the myraid of paid staff and cash grabs like this will not feed the growing monster that is the expanding paid staff at BBI.
unfortunately most people are too busy sitting at home trolling forums and slagging other people off to actually volunteer these days so your traditional community organisations are forced to pay people to do the work . which category do you fall in to ?
unfortunately most people are too busy sitting at home trolling forums and slagging other people off to actually volunteer these days so your traditional community organisations are forced to pay people to do the work . which category do you fall in to ?
Not everyone or club drives good people away. I am a volunteer who was once with BBI. Happy to keep working with kids but realise that some in management just dont get it.
Unregistered
09-11-11, 05:12
unfortunately most people are too busy sitting at home trolling forums and slagging other people off to actually volunteer these days so your traditional community organisations are forced to pay people to do the work . which category do you fall in to ?
Thats a good one, EVERY club or has you put it " traditional community organisations" EXCEPT your BBI have volunteers doing the majority of the work, don't believe me just ask around. Most clubs have one or two full time employees and a couple of casuals. Ask BBI management how many PAID staff members they have? Good luck getting an honest answer on that one too, but a simple head count would say about 10 to 12.
Anyway I am off to work; then to help out at my new club, which is full of valued volunteers that are happy to contribute. Mark my words if you are a member at BBI your fees are going to continue to rise. The monster that has been created by the current management needs to be fed. I fail to see how that is slagging off at anyone, simply and sadly stating fact.
Vince was one
09-11-11, 10:57
unfortunately most people are too busy sitting at home trolling forums and slagging other people off to actually volunteer these days so your traditional community organisations are forced to pay people to do the work . which category do you fall in to ?
One of the greatest volunteers BBI ever had was Vince Hickey. Remember him. The stadium named in his honour due to his huge role in getting the club at a level. Now called NAB Stadium. The dollar is mightier then the volunter is what that says to me.
Why not the NAB Vince Hickey Stadium
Unregistered
12-11-11, 12:17
BBI management = lies, deception, no integrity...
I seem to remember hearing that the NBL submission for Bullets had to be submitted by 18th November if were to get a team in for next year. Any word or is it all over.
Is this a case of no news is good news or simply the two factions would not talk to each other again.
Santa says .......................... "All you Brisbane basketball supporters for failing to listen to those that know it all will not be getting an NBL team for 2012/13 season?.
Reasons beng :-
1. BQ chased away all others options in first 2 years.
2. BBI tried to go it alone
3. BA really had no resources to support it
4. Private option lacked credibility
5. Group formed in August last year did not have a real planner incharge. To much "what if"
6. No money no team
7. We already have the Blaze only an hours drive away so no real community need for purists
What ever is the reason shame on all involved for NOT working together.
Unregistered
29-11-11, 20:10
Professional Basketball (and other sports) in this country can only survive if the team has a "sugar daddy", or via pokies.
It really doesn't matter how many people tried, either separately or together, it all comes down to the mighty dollar.
It costs a minimum of $1m per year to put a team in. You will never make that from door sales alone.
Idiot. The best sports clubs in Australia are AFL. Run by solid management with great grass roots support. Try doing some work to make it happen. No wonder our sport is doing so bad with fools like you trying to convince others not to even try. Idiot.
Unregistered
30-11-11, 10:45
Idiot. The best sports clubs in Australia are AFL. Run by solid management with great grass roots support. Try doing some work to make it happen. No wonder our sport is doing so bad with fools like you trying to convince others not to even try. Idiot.
don't think anybody was 'trying to convince others not to even try' . it looks like all the name calling is coming from you . and you wonder why others don't want to play with you .
i am sure the nbl would be doing a lot better if they had a $1.25 billion tv deal .
if you look at the other nbl clubs and their finances you can quickly see a pattern emerging . that is not to say that we should just give up, simply saying that a quickly thrown together submission will probably fail just as quickly .
Unregistered
01-12-11, 07:39
If you look at major clubs across Australia most do have a major sponsor and or backer but the bigger, richer clubs have one thing we do not have here in Brisbane, a club house full of patrons, pokies, restaurants etc. That membership support that the likes of the AFL clubs, Broncos etc is a vital part of the success of the said club.
We sit back bitch and moan at what we do or do not have but if the truth be known until such a club exists but more so we get off out butts and pay for a membership and then support that club with our patronage it will always be tough.
That paid up membership base then gives drive for sponsorship as you can actively approach more sponsors etc.
A vicious circle I know but the buck stops with us, northside, southside, westside, eastside is irrelevant we need to put our hands in our pockets and become members of the team if we want one back in Brisbane.....that is called support!
Shame on BQ for chasing away wvwryone who wanted to help when Bullets first went dwn.
Shame on all those who would not work together to grt them back.
Basketball is dying and the people who will noyt change there ways are to blme.
Shame on all fans who will not put hand in pocket to get them back.
Merry Xmas those that care and brickbats to those I mention above.
Long kive the Blaze.
Unregistered
13-12-11, 12:45
Shame on BQ for chasing away wvwryone who wanted to help when Bullets first went dwn.
Shame on all those who would not work together to grt them back.
Basketball is dying and the people who will noyt change there ways are to blme.
Shame on all fans who will not put hand in pocket to get them back.
Merry Xmas those that care and brickbats to those I mention above.
Long kive the Blaze.
Shame about your spelling
Unregistered
13-12-11, 14:36
Shame on BQ for chasing away wvwryone who wanted to help when Bullets first went dwn.
Shame on all those who would not work together to grt them back.
Basketball is dying and the people who will noyt change there ways are to blme.
Shame on all fans who will not put hand in pocket to get them back.
Merry Xmas those that care and brickbats to those I mention above.
Long kive the Blaze.
Shame we can't come up with an idea like Brisbane Bullets Bistro or Blaze BBQ tavern a place for families to eat and all profits go back to these organizations to fund them bring people back to basketball
http://www.brisbanetimes.com.au/sport/basketball/brisbane-makes-shot-at-nbl-return-20111213-1osxt.html
Wayne Heming
December 13, 2011 - 6:32PM
.The long battle to get a Brisbane team back playing in the NBL could be over if a mystery consortium wins approval for a licence from Basketball Australia.
The NBL Commission will consider applications from backers of a Brisbane team and also a second team in Melbourne tomorrow with a view of expanding its competition in 2012-13.
Talks have been ongoing with the Brisbane group for several weeks.
Advertisement: Story continues below Basketball Australian chief executive Larry Sengstock declined to identify either group when contacted today but confirmed their applications would be reviewed during a teleconference hook-up today.
"We'd like to make some decisions and make them quickly," the former Brisbane Bullets championship-winning captain said.
"It's been obvious to the world we've been pushing very hard for Brisbane to return to the NBL and for a second Melbourne team.
"We'd like to make a decision soon, if not now, to give them maximum time to be ready to go."
Foundation club Brisbane folded in June 2008 after wealthy Brisbane businessman David Kemp pulled the pin on plans to purchase the club's NBL licence off former owner Eddy Groves.
There's been constant speculation and rumour of backers prepared to resurrect the Bullets since they closed their doors a year after winning their third championship under Joey Wright.
Bullets legend Leroy Loggins has offered his profile to lobby groups who've tried to glean community and corporate backing to bring the Bullets back and the latest consortium is believed to have a strong plan to present to the NBL Commission's sub committee.
AAP
I know there are a few people here that are on opposing bid 'groups'. What's the story on the above article? If someone has submitted a bid (I'm guessing it was the BBI side), they must have backing of some substance?
The Numbers Man
15-12-11, 16:45
http://forum.brisbanebasketball.com/newreply.php?do=newreply&noquote=1&p=38313
NBL Statement on New License Applications
December 15, 2011, 03:55 PM AEST
Links:CEO Statement
In response to intense media interest in potential new National Basketball League licenses for the 2011/12 iiNet NBL Championship season, Basketball Australia CEO and NBL Commission member Larry Sengstock issued the following statement this morning.
“The NBL Commission has received applications for an NBL license from two new clubs, one based in Brisbane and a second Melbourne-based team,” said Sengstock. “The Commission met last night to review the applications.
“The Commission has asked NBL management to validate some of the detailed information contained in the applications before we can make a determination as to whether either bid group has satisfied the requirements to be issued an NBL license. Expansion of the league is a strategic priority however it remains imperative that it is achieved in a measured and considered way. It is imperative any expansion is sustainable for the long term and we will undertake all necessary steps to ensure as a Commission we deliver that.
“The Commission hopes to be able to make a final determination on the applications early in the New Year once that verification process has been completed.”
As per standard BA policy, the details of the parties bidding for licenses will remain confidential until such time as a license may be granted.
http://forum.brisbanebasketball.com/newreply.php?do=newreply&noquote=1&p=38313
NBL Statement on New License Applications
December 15, 2011, 03:55 PM AEST
Links:CEO Statement
In response to intense media interest in potential new National Basketball League licenses for the 2011/12 iiNet NBL Championship season, Basketball Australia CEO and NBL Commission member Larry Sengstock issued the following statement this morning.
“The NBL Commission has received applications for an NBL license from two new clubs, one based in Brisbane and a second Melbourne-based team,” said Sengstock. “The Commission met last night to review the applications.
“The Commission has asked NBL management to validate some of the detailed information contained in the applications before we can make a determination as to whether either bid group has satisfied the requirements to be issued an NBL license. Expansion of the league is a strategic priority however it remains imperative that it is achieved in a measured and considered way. It is imperative any expansion is sustainable for the long term and we will undertake all necessary steps to ensure as a Commission we deliver that.
“The Commission hopes to be able to make a final determination on the applications early in the New Year once that verification process has been completed.”
As per standard BA policy, the details of the parties bidding for licenses will remain confidential until such time as a license may be granted.
I am guessing by the silence it is all over for another year. Correct me if I am wrong. Those responsible for turning people, who wanted to help, away when Brisbane first folded need to apologise to the many supporters that now still have no team.
Unregistered
23-01-12, 11:36
Board logged me out again, cbf logging in...although the image verification thing sucks
Interesting to hear the interview with Kristina Keneally during on of the NBL games on the weekend referring to the need to get teams back up in Melbourne and Brisbane, so it might not be dead yet. Strange that no official notice has come up from the NBL though...seems to be a lot of people around the place who think they have "inside" info, more so about the Melbourne franchise (eg. based out of Knox etc etc).
I don't really care if they get a franchise back up and running here, the Blaze is fine and dandy. But if they do revive they'd better do a lot better job of getting out amongst the junior basketballers and reigniting the flame with them and their parents if the thing is going to be sustainable.
Knox are in NBL next year.
Sseamus has parted ways with Melbourne Tigers.
Seem no Bullets in 2013.
Done and dusted
09-02-12, 14:46
Bullets not going to happen. BA not happy with proposals. Rejected attempts with good reason.
Guess that means unless a major person arrives to save the sport no more NBL in Brisbane.
I wonder what BQ are saying now seeing they told everyone they would get it up and running.
Go the Blaze.
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