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The Stadium Nightclub Rockets and Hog’s Breath Café Cyclones are inviting athletes to give consideration to relocating Rockhampton for the upcoming Queensland Basketball League Season. The reigning National ABA Champion Rockets will be looking to defend their state title while the Cyclones look to once again participate in the playoffs.
If you are interested in a change and an opportunity then please forward your resume through to rbi@irock.com.au. Assistance in acquiring employment will be given to suitable athletes that see themselves capable of fulfilling a challenge.
Visit http://www.rockhampton.basketball.net.au or phone 0749 225544 for more information.
since when did you need to apply to play for a team
didnt know a "resume" was a pre requisite for an ABA side
haha its a prerequisite for your team when you need to buy your first 5...
wonder if the locals have to put their resume in to sit on the bench???
Unregistered
09-01-09, 14:51
So I take it we won't be seeing your Resume Nagas. It's a shame, we need a new water boy this year ;)
It's actually a shame that with all this talk about wanting to move the QABL forward, and big-noting ourselves about beating the Vic/NSW/TAs etc at Nationals that when an association is proactive in trying to make the League more professional both on and off the court, people only want to knock them.
At any rate, Rocky is certainly a unique environment both on the court and off the court, and I don't think anyone would question that it's crowd is one of the best ABA crowds in Australia to play in front of, so will be interesting to see what sort of players are interested in a bit of an adventure.
you're right about a unique place...
unique in the fact that noone.... well no local are really good enough or have been developed enough to play there.
and now there may be no stevie weigh due to the fact that the wildcats like to keep their team in the west leaves a real lot of gaps to fill...
no ben thompson back. richo retiring, the scott boys maybe out well maybe paul just from what i've heard... may not be true and with only rhys martin signed well its no wonder you guys are looking for resumes.
bagging im not just think there are other ways to go about employing future roster spots than over this site.
but you're right... playing in rocky sucks if you're on the opposing team...
i've been there more than a few times
[QUOTE=Unregistered;12817]So I take it we won't be seeing your Resume Nagas. It's a shame, we need a new water boy this year ;)
haha new waterboy thats a good one but why would you need a new waterboy???
have your locals finally gotten tired of training hard all preseason playing a few warm up games then sitting on the bench cheering an filling your 5 stars waterbottles now???http://forum.brisbanebasketball.com/images/smilies/biggrin.gif
:D
yea i'm knocking you but did you really expect anything else?? we all know that as much as i bag you i was talkin you up pre, during and post season...
but with no national level to go to now does that still mean rocky will need to stack a team instead of maybe jus letting those young guys like mitch n kurtis have a bit more of a chop???
but to answer your question no sorry i want be submitting my resume this year altho (not sure whether it would help or not) it would be nice to run out onto hevgold without gettin booed fact of the matter is i rather enjoy it...
good luck with recruiting guys..
Unregistered
12-01-09, 12:05
you're right about a unique place...
unique in the fact that noone.... well no local are really good enough or have been developed enough to play there.
and now there may be no stevie weigh due to the fact that the wildcats like to keep their team in the west leaves a real lot of gaps to fill...
no ben thompson back. richo retiring, the scott boys maybe out well maybe paul just from what i've heard... may not be true and with only rhys martin signed well its no wonder you guys are looking for resumes.
bagging im not just think there are other ways to go about employing future roster spots than over this site.
but you're right... playing in rocky sucks if you're on the opposing team...
i've been there more than a few times
Not every centre in the state can pump out talented juniors like Townsville does PIP. Out of interest did you have to submit a resume to put out fires - perhaps it is important to have some background on a person before bringing them into your program. Don't know that anyone is actually bagging you so why is at that you wish to bag Rocky.
Nagas on the other hand is loved and hated by the Rocky crowd....you got big shoes to fill if you think you can't take his place as the shit stirrer....he gives as good as he gets and we can't wait for his odds again.
Unregistered
12-01-09, 13:02
hahaha cause gladstones talent is soooo homegrown. Get off the grass. 2 years ago the rockets were rolling most of the year with bull cam and the locals and still beat up on pretty much everyone. Benny's calf was trashed and their wanker import gloger bailed on the team.That year they beat brisbane with glenny tony richo bull and cam and I believe they still beat you by about 150 in both games big fella? Cause I remember kingma growing up in gladstone, and siminac, wait..... my bad. Stop tryin to be all high and mighty. The rocky locals would take a dump on the gladdy locals everyday of the week and twice on sundays. Stevie could very well be coming back too.
Unregistered
12-01-09, 13:04
sorry just read my own post. a bit full on lol no malice intended. Probably over reacted.
peace
haha... high and mighty i definately am not and as for the shit stirrer well noone can ever live up to my friend nagas.. wasnt actually trying to stir at all... nah bugger it i was... coz lets face it this is pretty much what this site is predicated on...
was just trying to say that apart from imports and trigger the last couple of yrs and the locals in paul scott, glenn scott, richo and TC & weigh there hasn't been any other locals who played any significant mins in the ABA.
its the same crew and the only crew for abt as long back as i can remember
and well time ages and retires players. so where has the plan been put in place by coaching staff to develop the next crop of scott bro's, TC's and Richo's that was merely my point. so if you want to get all bent out of shape about it then be my guest i guess
i'll take your point about the resume at the time i just had to say something coz i thought it was a bit odd and funny to post something like that on here and not expect a rise. but like old mate said ppl over react to stuff sometimes.
look forward to the battles of the season ahead...
Unregistered
13-01-09, 09:43
It's all well and good to assume that if you have a good development program then you'll produce plenty of good local players. But the reality is that you need to have talent to work with in the first place before you'll get any real benefit out of your program. Unless you actively recruit talent to your area you just have to work with what you've got. If that's 10 shooting guards/small forwards and not much else then you're going to find it hard to come up with complete team out of that. You'll end up with 1 or 2 of your top guys getting court time with the rest sitting on the pine, moving to other areas for an opportunity, or quitting the sport. That's without even considering the level of competition in our league. The best players are all NBL linked (now or in the past) or imports so the question is - how do you match that with local talent in a regional town? How many state players go on to make it in the ABA? How many young players on the verge of NBL level are willing to spend their entire career in a regional area providing no NBL or higher opportunities? When you understand this you might realise just how lucky (or maybe they're actually doing something right?) Rocky are to have had local guys like Richo, TC (actually from Bundy I think), Paul and Glenn Scott over the past decade or so.
sorry just read my own post. a bit full on lol no malice intended. Probably over reacted.
peace
haha yea a little full on but ppl baggin ur team usually brings that out i guess..
to answer the point tho that seems to be coming up i dont think pip or i said anything about not bringing in imports in any of the quips it was simply having a go at the whole "send your resume in if you want to play for Rocky thing"
we know we need players like Wookie etc to bring us up to scratch but the exception of Simo n Wook no-one else had to send there resume in to play they simply work here an bball is a bonus...
and thats not the bullshit line ppl use about recruiting a player who then "gets" a job in town, it was employment first for all of them...
and its all well an good to go on about you need the talent in the first place for your development players to grow but is that really an excuse i mean surely you guys have been in the comp long enough to have a good development program going by now
although you have produced some good players do you have a current development program? do u have a local development coach? so that all the money you spend every year on players is moving to goal of utilizing local talent an not having to buy all of your first 5?
now before anyone else gets hot headed this is just a discussion im only asking the questions not throwing out a verbal challenge...
Unregistered
14-01-09, 06:41
Nagas did you understand that last post at all? Just throwing money and coaches into a development program will not necessarily produce starting 5 quality ABA players (especially at the level that Rocky want) if you don't have the right talent to work with. I can tell you that Rocky split their development players into 2 even teams for the development league and it was Rocky v Rocky in the final. That's brings up another point - for development to continue you need to play against other decent players. Maybe Rocky's lack of development is Gladstone's fault for not having a brilliant million dollar junior program that pulls NBA players out of thin air?
yea mate i got you but i dont think you get what anyone else is saying tho, whats the point of developing them if all they do is fill water bottles???
i guess coming from diff view points we'r never goin to see eye to eye i think you have the talent in Rocky to still be competitive without bringin in your entire startin 5 but i guess when you have the money you dont have to worry about that which is fair enough i guess...
and not to sure if you pay much attention to juniors but the little Rocky domination of CQ is pretty much over well in the boys anyway dont think you'v had a decent team since Mitch n Bolck left so better tell your development officer whoever they are to pull their finger out or there maybe no more Steve Weighs coming out of Bull Country...
Unregistered
14-01-09, 09:28
yea mate i got you but i dont think you get what anyone else is saying tho, whats the point of developing them if all they do is fill water bottles???
You've just reinforced my point. What is the point of pumping resources into a development program if the players you are working with only have enough talent to become water boys? Surely you're not one of these people that believes any 7 foot guy you can find can be "developed" into a star no matter how unco they are? Would the worst player on your team become NBL calibre under Brian Goorjian? Probably not.
and not to sure if you pay much attention to juniors but the little Rocky domination of CQ is pretty much over well in the boys anyway dont think you'v had a decent team since Mitch n Bolck left so better tell your development officer whoever they are to pull their finger out or there maybe no more Steve Weighs coming out of Bull Country...So what you're saying is Rocky doesn't have that much talent coming through at the moment, or are you saying that Rocky clearly should be dominating CQ but they're just not coached well enough or they don't put enough work in?
Unregistered
14-01-09, 12:39
As an outsider Rocky has consistently produced great players and provided a great program to play in. Players in Rocky have become great because the standard to aspire to is set by their program and good coaching. Bringing in quality players brings an opportunity to experience and develop. As long as you can afford it why not! There will be more Weighs, Scotts, etc emerging over the years as long as they have the programs and profile. New era coming with TC and Richo retirements.
But please get a decent stadium!
Unregistered
14-01-09, 13:15
You don't like the night club?
Unregistered
14-01-09, 13:44
You don't like the night club?
It has an uneven, moving floor and the bar moves when you go to lean on it!
You've just reinforced my point.
no i didn't reinforce it your missing my point, i'm just supportin ur local guys not sayin you dont need imports at all i'm all for bringing in Imports but Paul an Glen could probably start for most other teams in the league and you would still be a good chance of finals with them there.. i guess im just a local player thinking of other locals..
but this isn't going anywhere point of the matter is you have the money to spend so your going to spend it and good on your administration for making that possible...
So what you're saying is Rocky doesn't have that much talent coming through at the moment, or are you saying that Rocky clearly should be dominating CQ but they're just not coached well enough or they don't put enough work in?
population wise you should def be stronger as is normally the case especially since as you put it we dont have the brilliant million dollar junior program full of NBA talent to challenge you...
i know you guys are run independent of each other but i thought that if your aba team is winning the national title surely this means there is as much as work going into the juniors and the success would filter down... but thats probably just me being naive if you guys are happy with it then thats all that matters i guess and we'r not goin to see eye to eye on any of this but thought i would have my 2 cents anyway...
Unregistered
14-01-09, 14:25
Yes Paul and Glenn could probably start for many teams and wouldn't do their finals chances any harm. But I think you're taking last season and holding it up as "the usual" for a Rockets team. Yes they usually buy in 2-3 guys every year. Why? To fill the obvious holes in the team. Rocky over the past 5 or so years basically have run with a local squad consisting of 1 starting PF (Paul Scott), and a bunch of SG/SFs. Recently Mitch has come along and is becoming capable as a backup PG (potentially a future starter). Basically they always need to fill at least 2 positions (PG, C) each year (+ another Big for front court depth) if they are serious about contending for the title. Last year was different mainly for 2 reasons:
1. Paul Scott was now over 30 and coming off a knee reconstruction
2. Steve Weigh decided to cut his NCAA career short and return home
This basically meant that they really needed 2 bigs and a point guard and they got Stevie Weigh as a bonus at the expense of Glenn Scott. It's unfortunate that Glenn's minutes were cut, but in the same situation I'm sure every team would have made the same call. Apart from him, who are the locals that deserved time and did not get it?
Unregistered
15-01-09, 09:32
It seems Nagas wants to continually harp on about the juniors not getting their chance in Rocky, or that they are not dominant in CQ anymore...can't quite put my finger on whether you play kids that can't dominate in CQ in a state league *ponders* I forgot the state league is clear stepping stone to the NBL, we have seen plenty use it to go onto bigger an better things.
Just because you are old enough doesn't mean you are good enough to play state league (and compete that is).
Nagas - if we want to continue to talk about the Rocky Juniors and there Development Officer why is that they won back the overall CDC title from Gladdy in 2008, why is that the state average for increases in participation is at 3% and Rocky's for 2008 was at 32%. Perhaps Rocky recognise that participation at the junior level is very important to the long term sustainability of the sport in the beef captial.
Rocky also recognise that participating and competing in the state league takes alot more than local players - that part of the organisation is conducted in a very business like manner, it is product that people pay to see and be part of, those people have a right to demand a quality product and they get it. I hear the cogs in your brain ticking over....what about the local up and coming kids....the truth is that there are not many of them and those that want it need to get off there asses and go and get it. Nobody works harder then Mitch Philp in obtaining an opportunity, but he understands that time is what is required for him to become a legitimate 1 at the state league level. Time to mature, grow and gain experince against quality players, working out against Rhys Martin is a pretty good by-product of Rocky recruiting Rhys.
Mitch is probably at least a year away from making a significant contribution at the state league level....sadly there aren't any kids in the pipeline that do even a 1/4 of the work that Mitch does.
So next time you challenege why Rocky do this and they do that - perhaps you should try and work out what outcomes Rocky are chasing both short and long term and you might just find there could be something learned there.
By the way I can see the Power growing rapidly over the next season or two - Blair is smart guy and is doing what it takes to be more competitive, even it does mean having a 1, 2, 3, 4 & 5 that are not Gladdy juniors.....import 1, perhaps Simanic, Iwanicki, Blair, Kingma...now if that comes off which i hope it does for Blair, i have to ask where are your locals ?
Unregistered
15-01-09, 10:08
By the way I can see the Power growing rapidly over the next season or two - Blair is smart guy and is doing what it takes to be more competitive, even it does mean having a 1, 2, 3, 4 & 5 that are not Gladdy juniors.....import 1, perhaps Simanic, Iwanicki, Blair, Kingma...now if that comes off which i hope it does for Blair, i have to ask where are your locals ?
there is a good crop of young guys coming through. U18 Gladdy finished 4th at classics last year. So if a few of them are given a chance this year they could start developing into good local aba tallent over the next couple of years. Rocky was in Div 3 u18b i think?
Unregistered
15-01-09, 10:31
Gladstone were a tough 18's team last year - oddly enough they had a Rocky kid who played in that team because he thought his chances of making state were better by playing Div 1
[QUOTE=Unregistered;12871]It seems Nagas wants to continually harp on about the juniors not getting their chance in Rocky,
HAHA are you the development officer by any chance???
where in my above posts did i "HARP" on about Juniors getting time in ABA??? i said locals had nothing to do with age...
all you did was basically just repeat most of what was said already in the topic but tried to make yourself sound smarter by using more words..
- need imports to compete an to produce better players
- rocky juniors dominate
- blah blah etc etc
only original effort you made was to talk up Mitch who is goin to be good if he continues...
as for the "local" term if you want to get technical TC (bundy) n Scott boys (Yeppon) aren't either an you claim them but thats neither here nor there... (i jus like stirrin the pot more)
at the end of the day its jus different strokes for different folks the fact of the matter is i'm just saying what other's are thinking an i'm still going to continue to "challenge" Rocky an whoever else i feel like cos there's nothin like a bit of anonymous bagging to read while you eat your breakfast...
and if we turn out to have a first 5 with no "local juniors" i know we'll get anonymously bagged for it so be it but we are still going to claim wookie an iwaniki as "locals" plus the rest of the bench so everyone minus Simo n Import being local isn't too bad...
so sorry mr/miss development officer if i hurt your feelings by sayin your doin a bad job i'm sure you worth the 5g they pay you a year and as long as my gladdy boys kick your rocky boys arse i'll be happy...
Unregistered
16-01-09, 13:06
Nagas you still haven't answered my question. Which locals, apart from Glenn Scott, deserved more time last year?
Unregistered
16-01-09, 13:31
Give Nagas a go - hard questions are exactly that.
Nagas, on most occasions it is slightly comical reading what you put on this site however sometimes your content is just drivel.
Do yourself a favour and don't imply things that can't possibly be accurate - and to use your words "its jus different strokes for different folks" which is exactly why Rocky do what they do and why plenty of others are starting to follow their lead. The irony of all of this is that Rocky have followed other teams down this path however you choose not to bag the ones that they have followed, perhaps you haven't been around long enough to appreciate that.....
I don't know that too many people bag you or your Gladstone unless you start to rabble on about them. The only thing that can be said is that at least you put your name to what you post, which is a hell of a long way in front of the nuffy's who don't.
I am confident that you now know who has written this so we will leave it at that - suffice to say it wasn't the Development Officer from Rockhampton as you eluded to in your previous post.
One more thing - you are not a member of RBI, so you don't get challenge anything that is done in Rocky, the only challenge you get to make is when you are on court. So how about you stop with the ridicule and insults - for a battle wits is an event at which you would sadly turn up too unarmed.
Unregistered
17-01-09, 22:51
Local rocky players, how about Craig as I remember he had a pretty good year when that import decided to go home and that was mention at committee level a number of times, also Aaron, has improved and needs to get more minutes or he will be like a lot of young players lost to the game. Most people will only sit on the bench for so long.
Unregistered
19-01-09, 08:54
At the moment Craig is a 6'2" power forward which is fine against certain opposition but it's not ideal when other teams have 6'6"+ guys to match up against. Aaron is very foul prone at the moment and that is going to limit his minutes even if the coach doesn't. While these guys can give you some quality minutes off the bench, I don't know if there are any teams out there that would be comfortable playing them as starters at this point.
If you agree with the above assessment then you'll understand why Rocky recruits bigs each year. When you recruit guys like Cam Tragardh, Peter Bullock, Ryan McDade, etc. then it's understandable that they play plenty of minutes and other guys are benched.
If I were in Carig's or Aaron's shoes I would be working on my game to bring it to a level that demands more minutes, rather than just expecting it to happen. This would mean that Craig probably could work on dribbling/perimeter game/defensive quickness so he can cover the 2-3 spots as well as the 4. Aaron probably would need to log some time in the gym and work with a coach on his defensive positioning, etc.
I am confident that you now know who has written this so we will leave it at that - suffice to say it wasn't the Development Officer from Rockhampton as you eluded to in your previous post.
One more thing - you are not a member of RBI, so you don't get challenge anything that is done in Rocky, the only challenge you get to make is when you are on court. So how about you stop with the ridicule and insults - for a battle wits is an event at which you would sadly turn up too unarmed.[/QUOTE]
sorry my friend i have no idea who you or the development officer is nor do i care.. if you dont want to put your name to it thats the beauty of the forum i guess altho if i was sayin that my local players weren't good enough i wouldn't put my name to it either...
i think you are takin this all a lit serious im not "Challenging" RBI or what you do in a serious way i couldn't give a shit if you continue to buy a first 5..
this is a forum of opinion not necessarily fact as is commonly shown by many including myself and as long as it stays that way i'll continue to add my 2 cents whether you like my slightly comical drivel or not...
i look forward to the future challenges on or off the court...
Unregistered
19-01-09, 11:42
Nagas is it worse to tell the truth that the Rocky locals mostly couldn't start and maintain a decent level of on court success, or to tell these guys that they do not need to improve and should demand minutes on the basis that they live in local area? Which way will result in these players and the overall program improving?
no unregistered ur right i'm sure they would rather hear it from a local anonymous poster on ben does to help the program...
it will be interesting to see how you guys go this year with a possible first five of:
Rhys
Glen?
Steve?
McDade
Import?
and bench of
Mitch?
Aaron?
Craig ?
Pete?
Bolck?
Kerry?
Unregistered
19-01-09, 16:32
So in the absence of a fault in my logic you have decided to avoid the question and instead try to win some points on the basis that you have provided your name and I have not? Whether the truth comes from an anonymous poster or somebody else is not the important factor. If I tell you that leaves grow on trees it doesn't matter if I'm the biggest bullshit artist on the planet - it's still true.
no i'm not faulting your logic at all, every player in the aba knows they have to work on their game if we didnt have to work harder you would be in the NBA..
so wat my unstated point was that it's a given your guys have to work on their game no-one expects to just get court time without working for it an nowhere have i said that you should get a startin spot just because your a local.. i just hope they know who you are cos i think it's pretty low if they dont and your just sprouting on here...
i've got no idea who you are, as iv said before i'm coming from a point of view of a local who supports locals, i'll repeat that we need imports in the league to make us a marketable enterprise...
i dont need to win points cos this isn't a competition, it's a conversation an I'm pretty sure its over...
Unregistered
20-01-09, 12:48
Nagas I'm still wondering if you've actually bothered to go back over what you've written to make sure you remeber what your point was. You've basically been bagging Rocky's professional approach to running a team and said they should be playing the locals more. At the same time you have defended Gladstone's team makeup even though it consists of pretty much the same mix of truly local talent and players coming from other areas and the true locals get about as much run as those from Rocky. You tell me I am out of line for saying that I don't know if there are ABA teams that would take Craig or Aaron as starters but that they can contribute some good minutes off the bench. You've done all this while flip flopping about how you are bagging Rocky and then you're not, you don't like buying in players but you think it's fine, you're not trying to make yourself look better by telling every anonymous user that you have balls and they don't but you still bring it up anytime somebody says something you don't like.
Don't worry, I know that all this is just your way of getting out your frustrations about coming last in the POD every year. It'll be alright man. The quality of the league will get worse again at some point and then you might be able to get your local ass off the pine and into the starting lineup again.
Unregistered
20-01-09, 13:06
Nagas please bait this guy up again. Its getting really funny.
Unregistered
20-01-09, 15:18
its funny that I thought mackay finished last in the POD last year??????
also remember nagas starting against us.......
do you play at all????? cuz your talking rubbish about his game and would like to know if you could back this up????
I see both views and agree with both to some extent but you are the one that looks like an idiot by rabbiling on and because nagas puts his name on his page earns him alot more respect then you will ever have..
Unregistered
20-01-09, 15:57
Sorry I was rabbiling so much. I didn't know I was capable of that. As for your respect - you can keep it, I won't be needing it. I did look up the stats and you are right - they finished second last with the same record as Mackay and Nagas probably did start in at least a few games. Doesn't change the fact that they were clearly outclassed in the POD and the only way that'll change is for Nagas to convince teams like Rocky that they shouldn't recruit so much or for Gladstone to recruit more themselves.
Unregistered
21-01-09, 08:12
so what does all this mean, Nagas to Rocky to ake up a role as development officer?? i am confused
cairns and townsville need to develop juniors
HAHAHAHA obviously it isn't over but i do love hearing from the stands, its you fans that make stirring the pot so worthwhile...
let me educate your dumb non playing anonymous mind.... and i'm going to do it in dot form to help you better understand this may take awhile but i'm going to try answer all your questions in a simple easy to understand manner..
-let me first state that this all come out of a friendly little jibe about sending a resume in to play, if i had of known that you would of reacted like i called your mother all sorts of names an disgraced your family grave and i would have to write what equates to an essay i'm not sure if i would of bothered but i like ur passion...
-i did start in at least half of the games but i'm not worried about that, thats just something the fan tried to throw out to stir me i have no qualms with supporting my team from the bench if Blair thinks thats whats right for the team.. i'll add Dan was our starting Point Guard all season a junior since 1989 we both averaged 20-30+ mins
- we were outclassed by bigger an richer teams fair enough most teams got dominated by the POD but then again we did manage to beat a team who also bought a first 5 at their home court as well as scare the shit out of Cairns in our last home game along with finish 2ND LAST IN THE POD ON COUNT BACK which means we are improving something we endeavor to continue... we don't expect to win the comp our first few years in the full state league just continue to improve the program... How long did it take Rocky to win their first full state title and how much???
- the flipflopping what are you reading???.... I NEVER SAID I DONT AGREE WITH BUYING PLAYERS I'V SAID TIME N TIME AGAIN I SUPPORT IMPORTS THEY MAKE US A MORE MARKETABLE how can you not understand that... i'm jus simply supporting local players who grow up wanting to play for their local team in front of a local crowd... i guess if you dont play you wont understand that because it's a different view from the Grandstand...
- "you're not trying to make yourself look better by telling every anonymous user that you have balls and they don't but you still bring it up anytime somebody says something you don't like"
i said your out of line for talking bout ur locals online an not using ur name thats jus simple logic dude why bag your own boys??? if your going to do it tell em who it is sorry if thats too much to ask...
- now i know you feel the need to continually have a comeback trying to make me look silly cos you feel the need to beat me in the battle of wits of which i'm so unarmed..
but the reason that it may seem i'm backflippin at times is because i agreed with some of the points you made you guys are a successful program an i'm happy to admit that like i said this isn't a competition that you so crave an in typical rocky form you think you need to win at any costs even stooping to personally trying to bag me if you all you have is that I'm a benchie when i wasn't well i'm sorry disgruntled fan that's like water of a ducks back cos i would be happy to sit on the bench wave my towel an get drunk on road trips if thats all that was needed of me...
-like i said this started as something tongue in cheek an you ballbags took it way too serious, take a chill pill dude we all love Rocky in our own special way...
i really hope that this answers all your questions if it doesn't how bout you look me up on facebook an we have a chat instead of useless slaggin cos being namelessly tough on the internet is like winning at shadow boxing even if you win you still look stupid...
i'll see you on the court or not...
Unregistered
21-01-09, 11:25
if i had of known that you would of reacted like i called your mother all sorts of names an disgraced your family grave
All I did was infer that you were pushing for the local Rocky benchies to get more run so that you and your team could be more competitive and maybe even because you aren't happy about your own team's direction over the last few years (you've gotta admit there are some similarities with Gladdy and Rocky both getting players in, though by different means). This was right after you called me low for my honest assessment of some of the Rocky players. Can you explain to me how it is low to say that Craig is 6'2"? Did I short change him by half an inch? I also said that Aaron has been foul prone from what I have seen of him (and confirmed by his stats for last season - 1 foul every 6 minutes). Is that a particularly harsh criticism?
And if I have thought you were taking a "locals at all cost" stance (which contradicts your stated support of imports) it's because you:
- Bagged rocky for buying in a first 5
- Supported playing the locals more even after you were given perfectly valid reasons (you didn't challeng them at least) why the top locals (Paul old and coming off reco, Weigh a late addition cost Glen minutes) didn't play as much as they are capable of last year.
- Said that talent wasn't a prerequisite for the development of local ABA quality players.
man this thread really got out of hand.
Can I ask if you got much positive feed back from this advertisment or thread?
just curious to see if it worked, I am sure everyone in this league wants to play in hegvold with the rocky crowd behind them even Grant kruger and nagas I am sure....
you have to admit the rocky fans love it when the locals are on the court.
cheers crack
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21-01-09, 20:11
man this thread really got out of hand.Touché Crack.
Aaron. Matt Neason, Rocky DO here. Happy to clarify some of your queries and hopefully get this thread back on track. Like Gladestone, Rocky deals with a number of challenges being a Regional centre...but where there are challenges there are also opportunities. One such opportunity being that we have amazing public and corporate support. With that comes an expectation that we will provide quality teams year in year out and that's certainly what we aim to do. Would our preference be to win State and National titles with solely home grown players. I can't speak for anyone else but for me that would be a clear yes, and as such we have a heavy focus on junior development, which is reflected in the high number of State representatives and QAS scholorship holders we produced last year.
What has been missing in our region is a clear pathway for players once they finish playing Junior Representative Basketball. I'm sure your U18 players experienced the significant gap between being a talented Junior and being a meaningful ABA contributor. Certainly their minutes and stats would suggest so. Last year's D-League didn't really target the players it should of, and due to restricted player rules, people such as the Rocky boys already mentioned in this thread, and yourself weren't catered for. I think you'll find that Rocky have been at the forefront of restructuring this competition so that it caters for players such as yourself in helping them develop the confidence (maybe not in your case), but certainly the court sense needed to be competitive at ABA level.
and not to sure if you pay much attention to juniors but the little Rocky domination of CQ is pretty much over so better tell your development officer whoever they are to pull their finger out or there maybe no more Steve Weighs coming out of Bull Country...That's an interesting perspective :) Results and scores from the only CDC this year would suggest that we were very dominant, which is something I was particular proud of. Credit to the hard work that many volunteers (yourself and a couple of other ABA players included) put in at Gladstone a couple of years back. I think it was a massive wake up call to Rockhampton Basketball to lose the overall regional trophy to Gladstone, but the reality is that we have been able to turn that result around of late. We have holes in some of our older age groups that will be hard to fill, but the strength in our U14's down (both in numbers and in talent) is outstanding. The upside for some of our talented Juniors in the older age groups, whilst not having the depth around them, is that I can focus more energy into their development via individuals and small group sessions. Oh..and on a side note, I'm not too sure there are many associations developing Juniors of Stevie's ability, but we will keep trying.
So I guess this brings me full circle regarding moving this thread back on track. Yes Rockhampton Basketball are focused on developing a winning culture. But in the process of doing that, we are focused on wholistic development. Development of Junior and Senior players, referees, coaches and scoretable people for that matter. When we bring players in, we want to make sure they will add to our overall program, not just the win/loss line. We want to integrate them into the community, and assist them with finding employment or even starting their own business (such as the case with BT), which through our corporate contacts, we are in a position to do. If they have goals to take their basketball further, we have the people and the network here to achieve that. I guess the point of the thread is that for people looking to go somewhere with their Basketball (local or otherwise), we are happy to assist them in their journey, but we want to make sure people coming here have the right makeup. Take a Mitch Philp for example. There's a kid who has been proactive in furthering his own development. As a result I do weekly sessions with him and a number of other young players who are want to get somewhere.
Regarding the environment in Rocky...I think I'm qualified to comment. I moved here from Melbourne a touch over two years ago and have loved every minute. I haven't seen an ABA atmosphere, nor such support of players off the court anywhere else in Australia. There is no doubt that the Rockets had a talented group on the court last year, but their success was in part due to the quality of coaches, administrators, and volunteers off the court, something that will ensure we continue to be a successful program in the future.
Crack...I can't comment on the response, as our Opperations Manager handles that side of things, but I certainly thank Nagus for his interest in this thread as I'm sure it's helped us get a few more hits ;)
Matt
Thanx for the cool headed response to get things on track Matt altho im not sure there was a track we were jus havin a little fun with ur boys.. def agree with alot of what you said like i said to ol mate we all love Rocky in our own way obviously with some there's a love/hate relationship..
be interesting to see how the next CDC goes didnt think you guys dominated much at all but i only saw some boys games not gals for all i know you could of lost all the boys an won all the gals its good to see Bundy getting some talent in as well as a stronger cdc comp is better for everyone...
i see some of the merit in the new D league this season, altho i'm yet to be fully convinced that playing with them will help my boys get better, as myself an others who don't care and/or need developing will be taking their minutes an your team will be exactly the same as last year because none of them got enough minutes to be restricted...
but in saying that i'm lookin forward to it and its also good to see the Scott brothers going home to Yeppon to help those guys, not to sure how Bundy will look but it should be a good lit comp...
glad to be of help in gettin you guys some hits, i know us desk jockeys enjoy it down here...
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