The Blaze

[Emu]

I just got back from the Blaze v Bullets game. Awesome night!

Unfortunatley, the Blaze boys came up short. Started like a train, fell off thru the middle, finished like a train.

Ebe had a blinder! :bowdown:

Crowe in foul trouble didn't help. The Blaze were prolly just hoping to stay competitive with a championship contender like Brisbane...... and they did.

They looked better too!

Well done boys :bravo:

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Well done to the Gold Coast Blaze great night ,great venue and the score board was awesome,good crowd for a mid week game,Brisvegas showed why they are current champions the depth on the bench the big difference, Blaze will be very competetive this year and expect them to beat some of the better teams this year as long as injuries dont play a big part,

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i also went to the game last ngiht live localy
great game great centre great place
but the music was terrable
also to much talking during the game
and danel joyce is terrable he gets fovourted by his dad so much
why dont the play pero cemeron he is probly one of the best players on the team and gets 12 minutes game time when the coach's son the worst on the team gets 18 mins
but all in all great firts game only going to get better hope it doesnt turn out like sinagapore in the end

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It looks like SOJ has his position on this team under false pretenses. Nothing to do with his dad being the coach or him being as marginal NBL talent. He holds a position on this team as a back up point guard - which he obviously does not have the ability to play at this level. Don't take my word for it. Go and ask any person with knowledge of the NBL.

Hopefully Blaze management can step in to rectify this problem. Hope so, for the immediate future of the franchise. Otherwise its going to be a long first season.

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I was also at the game and was dissapointed in the performance of #2
The kid can play just not in this league
Deserves a spot on the team just not as high on the rankings
Not the kids fault father needs to realize the skill of his child
All ?'s answerd by the picture on pg 73 of the courier mail 24.09.07

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You have to feel sorry for everyone involved with the new club, from the players, board members and fans (like myself).
Between the ongoing diabolical coaching methods of Joyce and pathetic playing capabilities of Joyce Junior (or SOJ), the season has been flooded with frustration and disbelief. Disbelief... that such a historically successful coach has lost all sense of realitiy when playing unskilled SOJ the minutes he does.

After to extensive and unwarranted time given to SOJ in preseason and earlier games, it is apparent that perhaps the board has stepped in.

As a season ticket holder up here for Blaze, it is frustrating to see SOJ still take valuable minutes from others.

Whats a Joyce doing? Playing SOJ in hope of a miracle, well.. It's not doing the club any favours, fans are frustrated and disheartened by what we are having to watch. The bench has great guards not being utilised!!!

Why isn't he giving that Tyson Demas a go, he was a force to be reackoned with in the preseason and we've not seen much of him since. the crowd love his game too, what we need for basketball in Australia.... If Joyce is worried he'll outshine his son? well, It wouldn't be hard!

SOJ is simply not up to it. Give someone else a go!!!

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could be starting to tell on the locals already, alot make that ALOT of spare seats at the game on sat night for only our 2nd game at home, 1st on a sat night and against a big name outfit like the tigers.lets hope the blaze get it right be a shame to see a couple of questionable moves derail an initiative that promises so much for the bball fans of the coast

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get anto in2 the blaze starting side or give aucoin more court time cos both of them would do more damage and give less turnovers the young joyce. haha get rid of joyce coach aswell, id prefer to see claxton coachin haha

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get anto in2 the blaze starting side or give aucoin more court time cos both of them would do more damage and give less turnovers the young joyce. haha get rid of joyce coach aswell, id prefer to see claxton coachin haha

or even johnny segetti he did lead our aba team to the qld finals and carins were by far the best in the country

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went to blaze game v hawks last night blaze jumped to 10-0 start good solid starting line up pero hawkins crowe harvey and scott mac all was good blaze holding to 8-11 pts lead and then it all happened kasey franks came into the game which is to be expected as gold coast are only 7 deep with these 6 and ben melmeth but then joyce brings on boy wonder and he just stunk it up he missed so many WIDE open shots and he is just lucky he made the full court drive lay up when he didnt even look to see jason crowe so wide open at the 3 pt line as he was stroking it well all night and with a 4 pt lead and a blown lay up it would of been costly. it was sad to have to spend money to go to watch one of the dearest teams and watch a 5th rate player let such and average team back in the game is joyce trying to please his wife to get some or make the dinner table a better place. i guess it was a good thing he wasnt marking frankland he was the man for the hawks and could of easly seen a very diffrent result one positive note to him tho he did stand there dribbling the shot clock down waving his finger in the air

ANY ONE WHOM READS THIS AND THINKS JOYCE IS A WASTE OF SPACE I URGE YOU TOO BOO HIM ON THE COURT AND CHEER WHEN HE GOES OFF

gold coast as one chant


get your boy off !!!!!

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ANY ONE WHOM READS THIS AND THINKS JOYCE IS A WASTE OF SPACE I URGE YOU TOO BOO HIM ON THE COURT AND CHEER WHEN HE GOES OFF

gold coast as one chant


get your boy off !!!!![/QUOTE]
Gees that would be soul destroying to the kid. Surely thats not the kind of impression/headlines Gold Coasters want to make around Australian Basketball? I'm not even from GC nor have I been to a game but I was well aware of the BJ/SOJ imbroglio before they left the Hawks. Gobsmacked to see BJ dealing the same cards up here and hoping for a different result. Would be good if the board could intervene and save the kid the embarrassment and Gold Coasters getting a name as heartless people. Bit hard for them to say anything but when the team is winning.

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It is amazing how people from the stands can make a call on a players roll in a team. I have not seen Daniel play but he has a good record at Australian champoinships. His Dad is a winner and a fierce competitor and fearless leader and knows his stuff. How many championships have you won ABA or NBL , whats your knowledge, how many years did you play at that level and have you been watching evaluating and developing the players that determine the future of your employment. You are entitled to your opinion but its a bit weak to attack the kid and incite the behaviour you mentioned. I hope GCB find you a better seat outside in the street, better still you deserve a season ticket to lawn bowls

[Mr bEn]

I have not seen Daniel play

Well then, I'd say your input means little in this discussion.

I've seen SOJ play plenty in the NBL. Could not give two shits what he has done otherwise, but in the major league he SUCKS, and does not deserve a quarter of the playing time he receives. Coach Joyce is a buffoon, and I feel for the local supporters who have to sit through this drama every home game.

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spike.

i do know abit about the game im a current coach sitting my level two but to pay good money to go and watch a high level basketball and see a guy like joyce blow so many open shots and is so busy dribbling the ball in circles waving his finger in the air gets a bit beyond joke so what if he has won aba and jnr titles as mr ben said this is major league in australia and he can't cut it why is it his court time is only high on teams his dad coaches when joyce got fired from wollongong his minutes dropped to 2 mins a game the whole marketing down here was about the local gold coast talent now with the size of sth east queensland im sure there is better guards here than days boy from nsw. you have adam and josh darragh here on the coast but there could be some good guard in southern brisbane that could not get into the bullets which is understandable with that line up.

if you want to buy me a season ticket ill sit there and shut up but i want to see good players play for my hard earned money.....

[Row E]

Interesting comments - very simliar to a lot of the crap posted on other sites from nameless basketball fans denigrating Junior Joyce. Sure he played badly in the first 2 games - and recieved too much court time. Since then his minutes have been better managed and he has played his ROLE in the team quite well and helped us have a couple of good wins. In no way am I saying he has been a star but he has been more than servicable. Also worth remembering that the guy is under 20 and still has a lot of developing to do!
It would be good if some of the posters on here could actually watch a game - without prejiduce - and form some meaningful opinions of their own rather than just regurgitating what has already been posted on this subject previously!

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Interesting comments - very simliar to a lot of the crap posted on other sites from nameless basketball fans denigrating Junior Joyce. Sure he played badly in the first 2 games - and recieved too much court time. Since then his minutes have been better managed and he has played his ROLE in the team quite well and helped us have a couple of good wins. In no way am I saying he has been a star but he has been more than servicable. Also worth remembering that the guy is under 20 and still has a lot of developing to do!
It would be good if some of the posters on here could actually watch a game - without prejiduce - and form some meaningful opinions of their own rather than just regurgitating what has already been posted on this subject previously!

what do you think a blog site is about you are a complete moron to think every one as much as you do the view i share is my own and i dont need to copy others. im one whom is a part of many disgruntaled gold coast fans who would rather see some local talent in the side over daddys boy from wollongong did you see the amount of wide open shots he missed on the weekend other teams have players who will hurt you and they play the key minutes and step up nbl sides should have guys whom should be able to hold their own in that level of competition. why do we bother with the aba if there is no true path for players it can be a hard enough road to break into a competition with american imports little own getting in the league on daddys back

[Mr bEn]

Row E (funny how you take a swipe at nameless fans when you yourself are one) - You must really have the rose-coloured glasses firmly on your face. Either that or your last name is Joyce.

Daddy has done nothing to limit SOJ's court time at all since the first two games, he has received the same spread of minutes throughout.

I would like to know what role you think he is playing so well. My opinion would be that he has only detracted from the time and has been anything but serviceable. I would love to post his stats, but they are not online yet. My favourite moment was the first game, you know the one where the Blaza had my Bullets against the ropes. Daddy left SOJ on for extended minutes, and CJ tore him apart like a hot chook. Bye bye game!

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Row E (funny how you take a swipe at nameless fans when you yourself are one) - You must really have the rose-coloured glasses firmly on your face. Either that or your last name is Joyce.

Daddy has done nothing to limit SOJ's court time at all since the first two games, he has received the same spread of minutes throughout.

I would like to know what role you think he is playing so well. My opinion would be that he has only detracted from the time and has been anything but serviceable. I would love to post his stats, but they are not online yet. My favourite moment was the first game, you know the one where the Blaza had my Bullets against the ropes. Daddy left SOJ on for extended minutes, and CJ tore him apart like a hot chook. Bye bye game!

same thing happened at the tigers game ,game was there for the taking but the extended court time to SOJ released the pressure on defense and the Blaze had to play a 4 man offence ,you can tell the trust is not there between some of the senior players and SOJ,which is going to hurt them down the line ,i still beleive if SOJ was good enough for NBL he should be making a carreer out it with another club not with the help of daddy and taking court time away from some of the players that could and would be more affective for the Blaze,Bought season tickets this year but will really thinking about it next year and seems to be alot of people feeling the same way its a shame to ruin a good thing to promote your child

[Row E]

Row E (funny how you take a swipe at nameless fans when you yourself are one) - You must really have the rose-coloured glasses firmly on your face. Either that or your last name is Joyce.

Daddy has done nothing to limit SOJ's court time at all since the first two games, he has received the same spread of minutes throughout.

I would like to know what role you think he is playing so well. My opinion would be that he has only detracted from the time and has been anything but serviceable. I would love to post his stats, but they are not online yet. My favourite moment was the first game, you know the one where the Blaza had my Bullets against the ropes. Daddy left SOJ on for extended minutes, and CJ tore him apart like a hot chook. Bye bye game!


I think you will find that it was Ebe Ere that tore the game (and anyone who tried to guard him) appart - and as for having the Bullets on the ropes...I think that is a bit of a stretch - sure we were more than competative but the Bullets are a class above and were always going to come up with the goods when it counted. (as were the Tigers)

As for the trust not being there amongst the players (post at 07:20)- yes Ill agree this was certainly obvious in the preseason matches and first home game at least (also seemed to be some tension with the coach as well) but the last 2 games at home have shown more on court chemistry within the group - especially between Crowe and Joyce(es) - sure it could be because of the wins but I like to look at it with a positive outlook rather than being negative and trying to find fault. Hopefully the team as a group are moving in the right direction. Also I hardly think you can say that Joyces extended minutes against the Tigers caused the loss - as with teh Bullets the Tigers were always in control and did just enough to make sure they got the win.
Anyway - why not stay after a game and ask the coach about his rotations or game plan? You may be pleasantly surprised (i must admit I thought he would be a bit of a knob) as he is quite approachable and happy to have a chat about all facets of the game.

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I think you will find that it was Ebe Ere that tore the game (and anyone who tried to guard him) appart - and as for having the Bullets on the ropes...I think that is a bit of a stretch - sure we were more than competative but the Bullets are a class above and were always going to come up with the goods when it counted. (as were the Tigers)

As for the trust not being there amongst the players (post at 07:20)- yes Ill agree this was certainly obvious in the preseason matches and first home game at least (also seemed to be some tension with the coach as well) but the last 2 games at home have shown more on court chemistry within the group - especially between Crowe and Joyce(es) - sure it could be because of the wins but I like to look at it with a positive outlook rather than being negative and trying to find fault. Hopefully the team as a group are moving in the right direction. Also I hardly think you can say that Joyces extended minutes against the Tigers caused the loss - as with teh Bullets the Tigers were always in control and did just enough to make sure they got the win.
Anyway - why not stay after a game and ask the coach about his rotations or game plan? You may be pleasantly surprised (i must admit I thought he would be a bit of a knob) as he is quite approachable and happy to have a chat about all facets of the game.

row e isnt that a corporate box now now mrs joyce dont stand up for your boy or the old man if he was any good he would of got more than a couple of trash minutes he got once daddy was fired and as mr ben said it was cj carving up he got the steals in the 11-0 towards the end of the 2nd he directed traffic well and he got Ebe Ere the open shots which a class player will make on a consissant basis..

[2 cents]

didnt see all of game cos local tv coverage sux an i only caught last qtr... but soj hit sum big shots down the stretch help the boys get the win over the 36ers... maybe its a turn for the better or did i just catch his shining moments?

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just shining moments it was one of his better games (as much as i hate to say it) but he was still average

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didnt see all of game cos local tv coverage sux an i only caught last qtr... but soj hit sum big shots down the stretch help the boys get the win over the 36ers... maybe its a turn for the better or did i just catch his shining moments?

Just lucky smyth screwed up left him open was more worried about harvey ,crowe and pero hitting the 3 had no pressure on joyce missed 2 or 3 sitters earlier in the game just bad coaching and under estamating players regardless at what level you may think they are at ,still plays out of control

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plain and simple... daniel joyce is Sh*t and has obviously had so much wind blown up his ar$e by his daddy that even he thinks he can play bball at the NBL level.

this ongoing bias is causing such a stir nation wide (for BBall fans and players) that the blaze are becoming the laughing stock of the NBL.

Immedicate action needs to occure as we've only really won games against the weaker teams,the next several weeks will tell all and if BJ contines to play his son over Crowe, Harvey and Demos then the board will HAVE to start asking questions! Surely.. its frustrating and i will NOT be buying a session ticket next year if appropriate changes do NOT occure.. that being the obvious.. SOJ less way minutes

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you are all haters and jealous...

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you are all haters and jealous...

no we want good players on show for our money its $55 dollars to go courtside and sit behind 10 -12 rows of corpates and its 25 dollars to sit at back row at the ends of the court. brisbane charge $29 for court side and look at that line up. in some ways we are jelous as there are better players on the coast than joyce and we deserve better for our money!!!!!!


joyce can go to hell get off the coast and go back to wollongong let our quality players get a run

signed all loyal coasters whom have bleed gold coast for years waiting for this chance

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plain and simple...
Immedicate action needs to occure the board will HAVE to start asking questions! Surely.. its frustrating and i will NOT be buying a session ticket next year if appropriate changes do NOT occure.. that being the obvious.. SOJ less way minutes

Then its straight out bleedingly obvious isnt it. Owen, Clacka and the Blaze board need to sack SOJ, then tell the current Australian Assistant Coach he is a mug who doesnt know what he's talking about and from here on they will be overseeing his coaching and changing decisions if they like.
I'm sure they wont hesitate to take these actions if it means you might not buy a season ticket next year. You and your season ticket are worth far more to the franchise than some mug coach and his son.

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no we want good players on show for our money its $55 dollars to go courtside and sit behind 10 -12 rows of corpates and its 25 dollars to sit at back row at the ends of the court. brisbane charge $29 for court side and look at that line up. in some ways we are jelous as there are better players on the coast than joyce and we deserve better for our money!!!!!!


joyce can go to hell get off the coast and go back to wollongong let our quality players get a run

signed all loyal coasters whom have bleed gold coast for years waiting for this chance
Hear Hear!! Brent Sheppard is a loyal Gold Coaster and better player than Daniel Joyce. Give him Joyce's minutes. For that sort of money the players should be giving free coaching lessons after the games!

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Hear Hear!! Brent Sheppard is a loyal Gold Coaster and better player than Daniel Joyce. Give him Joyce's minutes. For that sort of money the players should be giving free coaching lessons after the games!

Loyal G/Coaster he left to chase a GOLD MEDAL with S/West and now is back again loyal means through thick and thin and as far as being good enough for minutes in the NBL you are on another planet im sure if he was as good as your stateing he would be down at the Tute with rest of the talented Queenslanders which would definately do a lot more for Blaze than SOJ

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Loyal G/Coaster he left to chase a GOLD MEDAL with S/West and now is back again loyal means through thick and thin and as far as being good enough for minutes in the NBL you are on another planet im sure if he was as good as your stateing he would be down at the Tute with rest of the talented Queenslanders which would definately do a lot more for Blaze than SOJ

you drop kick somone was taking the piss so what if he left hes back and happy did you ever think to stop and ask him why he left in the first place ? no cause you are either jumping on the lets talk trash bandwagon or he took your spot on a team cause you werent good enough to hold your spot......................

[Gym Class Wedgie]

Does anyone agree nbl.com is the best website ever? I'm so glad that it is impossible to find season stats for any teams... just give me the season leaders, why would I want to see the season stats of Cam T, Cedar, Fitz or anyone else? Thank you nbl.com. And speaking of which why would I want to see their ridiculous stats anyway? Let's take the proper stats and just add 20 shots to each team and bring the % down as much as possible. At least 3 times this year I have watched the game on fox then checked out the stats and been like what the ??? Instead of 10/19 apparently Chris Anstey went 10/29 and instead of 6/14 John Rillie went 6/21? Oh ok, and I'm sure since this is the official website these players are absolutely thrilled to have their stats trashed. Sorry didn't know where else to post my disgust, but on your topic I have some news into what Clackers and co are thinking in terms of a south east qld based replacement for Daniel Joyce...

Josh Darragh - Clackers likes his game but has concerns over his fitness levels due to too much cordial consumption

Heath Gameron - Had initial concerns over his weight but then he realised he is probably the same weight as Joycy. Also a lefty, but he shot like 32% in 2006 and with the new nbl stats regime that's about 13% so no deal

Zane Meehl - Brendan Joyce said Zane has gotten where he has based on his father and Brendan passionately hates that sort of thing

Cam White - Would be the most obvious choice and he plays defence so Clackers was sold. But then when it came to contract negotiation time Cam insisted if you get Cam you also get Busta, and given how much grief Busta has brought to Gold Coast players Clackers decided a deal could not be arranged.

Christian Saleich (sp) - Went to TSS so would be the most obvious choice, but was told because he attended the AIS he was not very good and if he signed a contract he would warm the bench with Demos so Christian declined.

Drew Phillips - SOLD!!! You have to think of marketing and you gotta try to reach the surf culture crew of the gold coast, and Drew's tan and dredlocks would surely woo the surfers and the ladies to the game. He is pretty much the same as Joyce in that he can't shoot the 3 and goes to the hole out of control, but he can play D and makes hey hustle plays and promises to get the ball in the hands of the league's most overpaid player Scott McGregor.

[Squawky]

Does anyone agree nbl.com is the best website ever? I'm so glad that it is impossible to find season stats for any teams... just give me the season leaders, why would I want to see the season stats of Cam T, Cedar, Fitz or anyone else? Thank you nbl.com. And speaking of which why would I want to see their ridiculous stats anyway? Let's take the proper stats and just add 20 shots to each team and bring the % down as much as possible. At least 3 times this year I have watched the game on fox then checked out the stats and been like what the ??? Instead of 10/19 apparently Chris Anstey went 10/29 and instead of 6/14 John Rillie went 6/21? Oh ok, and I'm sure since this is the official website these players are absolutely thrilled to have their stats trashed. Sorry didn't know where else to post my disgust, but on your topic I have some news into what Clackers and co are thinking in terms of a south east qld based replacement for Daniel Joyce...

Josh Darragh - Clackers likes his game but has concerns over his fitness levels due to too much cordial consumption

Heath Gameron - Had initial concerns over his weight but then he realised he is probably the same weight as Joycy. Also a lefty, but he shot like 32% in 2006 and with the new nbl stats regime that's about 13% so no deal

Zane Meehl - Brendan Joyce said Zane has gotten where he has based on his father and Brendan passionately hates that sort of thing

Cam White - Would be the most obvious choice and he plays defence so Clackers was sold. But then when it came to contract negotiation time Cam insisted if you get Cam you also get Busta, and given how much grief Busta has brought to Gold Coast players Clackers decided a deal could not be arranged.

Christian Saleich (sp) - Went to TSS so would be the most obvious choice, but was told because he attended the AIS he was not very good and if he signed a contract he would warm the bench with Demos so Christian declined.

Drew Phillips - SOLD!!! You have to think of marketing and you gotta try to reach the surf culture crew of the gold coast, and Drew's tan and dredlocks would surely woo the surfers and the ladies to the game. He is pretty much the same as Joyce in that he can't shoot the 3 and goes to the hole out of control, but he can play D and makes hey hustle plays and promises to get the ball in the hands of the league's most overpaid player Scott McGregor.

The game box scores come from the game statisticians as far as i'm aware, and i haven't seen too many unreasonable looking sheets myself. If you are interested in stats for the nbl, there is a website dedicated to it. http://www.nblstats.com/.

The nbl website is a offshoot of the sportal website, which i a sports news website. As far as reporting the news from the nbl, it does a pretty decent job in my opinion. If you want stats, go to the proper website.

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The game box scores come from the game statisticians as far as i'm aware, and i haven't seen too many unreasonable looking sheets myself. If you are interested in stats for the nbl, there is a website dedicated to it. http://www.nblstats.com/.

The nbl website is a offshoot of the sportal website, which i a sports news website. As far as reporting the news from the nbl, it does a pretty decent job in my opinion. If you want stats, go to the proper website.
Yeh, maybe Squawky but where else would you get biting, controversial wit and humour like this if everyone went to the boring old "proper" website. Joyce snr. would be no contest for Jon Salecich or Cam White's old man anyway so reckon Zane would be the best prospect if he can just find Warwick a spot on the bench. With his excellent qualifications and experience it could turn out a master stroke for the franchise and cementing the North/South Coast connection. Young Drew IS an excellent surfer but will always be known as a "Brisso" so no go...

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I would like to ask you people, how many of you have won a nbl championship? so i dont think anyone should criticise coach joyce's coaching ethics!

also have some pride in your jersey! get behind your team!

we are trying to start a dynasty up here on the coast and we have people slagging off our young up and coming talent!

wait till the end of the season and let the boardroom make the decisions that need to be made!

i say have some faith!!

ill be at every home game and ill be supporting my team 110%! ill be cheering extra hard for joyce jnr to get a bit of confidence up for him!

if junior joyce is reading this i say just keep putting in the effort mate! your doing the coast pride!

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I would like to ask you people, how many of you have won a nbl championship? so i dont think anyone should criticise coach joyce's coaching ethics!

also have some pride in your jersey! get behind your team!

we are trying to start a dynasty up here on the coast and we have people slagging off our young up and coming talent!

wait till the end of the season and let the boardroom make the decisions that need to be made!

i say have some faith!!

ill be at every home game and ill be supporting my team 110%! ill be cheering extra hard for joyce jnr to get a bit of confidence up for him!

if junior joyce is reading this i say just keep putting in the effort mate! your doing the coast pride!

joyce has another relitive on this site and hes wollongong not coast you realy know squat about the young and up and comming talent here on the coast that have been shafted by joyces son being here

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The person who has been posting on here in defense of SOJ sounds exactly the same as the one who was posing similar stuff on the Hawks site. Strange that they now visit this site and claim to go to games and claimed to go to games at the gong but no longer do so. I wonder how many people have moved recently from Wollongong to Qld who attended Hawks games and now Blaze games. (sort of narrows it down a bit)
Cant criticise the coaches success with the Blaze but you have to ask the question of whether that success would be even better with a more productive back up PG. BJ is very shrewd in that he has built the team with very little options in that spot so is forced to play SOJ for extended minutes. I agree that Tyson has more of an upside but we will never see that because of the preferential treatment given to his son. He also minimises the oportunity for SOJ to register turnovers by the conservative nature of the way he plays. This is SOJ strogest part of his game along with his ability to at times get into the lane and kick out to an open shooter, resulting in the majority of his assists. His problem is that he is a very poor shooter and most teams do not even defend him on the perimeter.
Here is the proof.

2006-07 Wol 33 20 28-113 25% 16-74 22% 50-79 63% 0.91 2.12 0.3 0.09 1.21 1.91 3.7
2007-08 Gol 13 21 11-49 22% 7-31 23% 27-33 82% 2 2.08 0.23 0.15 1.38 2.15 4.31
Career 46 20 39-162 24% 23-105 23% 77-112 0% 1.22 2.11 0.28 0.11 1.26 1.98 3.87

24% FG 23% 3 point dont really cut it do they.

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joyce has another relitive on this site and hes wollongong not coast you realy know squat about the young and up and comming talent here on the coast that have been shafted by joyces son being here
Have kept an open mind on the Brenden/Daniel Joyce imbroglio out of respect for Joyce's achievments as an NBL and National program Coaching identity. He raised my eyebrows with his actions with young Daniel at the Hawks, (after seeing his actions around the NSW coach and other spectator coaches at the 2005 U/20's where Daniel was a spectacular failure for NSW against Cedar, Williams and Cann from Qld.), but respected the Coach's imperative to back his judgement with his career. (Which it in fact turned out was the case!)
I was saddened to hear that Joyce was confirmed as Blaze Coach but not surprised given the time Clacka came in mid season and thanks to Mark Dalton and Glen Saville, pulled them out of the shit and took them to a finals series some years ago. I was of the opinion that Joyce would have learned his lesson from the Hawks fiasco and would not perpetrate the same stupidity at the Coast in what is effectively a second chance to atone for a potentially career ending botch up.
This week however I was appalled and again saddened when I read public comments in the press by Joyce Snr. disparaging the very good imported PG, Crowe, who is at the BLAZE. It's time to yank his chain now. I just dont want to see Owen, Clacka and the Gold Coast Basketball public manipulated and taken down anymore after all the hard work and waiting for this dream to materialise, by an overzealous parent with no objectivity nor professional integrity when it comes to his son. Sure, Lindsay and Andrew did it and Alan and Steve are doing it at Cairns, but mate...their kids can actually play!
Quit while your in front Brendan, resign gracefully and get a NSWIS or QAS job or something more in line with your political instincts. Leave the Gold Coast, Jason Crowe, Owen, Clacka and the GC supporters alone to enjoy and nurture the growth of their NBL program unimpeded by the Joyce family career problems! If he wont do the right thing board members, sack him! He's not exactly the type of marketing image the Gold Coast needs anyway. His furtive, scrawny kid certainly isnt.

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been a while since i've visited old bendoes, normally full of average discussions...
but this one is money..
If your a facebooker, join my group.. sack brendan joyce (and son)
time to rally gold coast!!

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If your a facebooker, join my group.. sack brendan joyce (and son)
time to rally gold coast!!

I'm in!!

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iit saddens me to see a once upon a time true proffesional sucumb to what Brendaan Joyce has become ,putting his son in front of the team istruly pathetic ,even the novice of supporters can see it is wrong ,as a true G/coaster i drove to Brisvegas to watch the Blaze and found myself actually starting to barrack for the Bribane team in disgust ,did by season ticket this year but next not a prayer will go to the occasional game when either the Kings,Tigers or Brizvegas are in town,with true coaches not with hidden agendas like Joyce lets face it the kid tries hard but he will never be A TRUE BACK UP GUARD, Im sure you could find a number of juniors on the Coast who would just as well as SOJ, A question to the the people out there that know the game much better than i do ,How come the majority of the time when either a 1,2 or 3 man get replaced its SOJ gets on court which pushes players in positions that are not suited in there styk\le of play ,and young Demos who has done extremely well when he gets a opportunity sits on the bench more than he should is this a jealousy of Demos showing of SOJ ??

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Welcome one and all to the past world of the Hawks.

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im lovin this...

with adam darragh and his brother josh sitting here on the coast and a couple of young guards in the goannas side whom might i add finished runner up to a very strong and talented national aba champions carins and with gollotta and even young state guard jarrod mccarthy (whom at the moment are still a bit young but will be there soon) and with the potental comming out of logan we would of been better off going with one of that list ratther than joyce.

we cant balme the kid if you were in his shoes and dad hooked you up youd lap it up and take what ever you can.

any way has any one ever heard of a side paying top dollars for and american point guard and make him play half of his minutes out of position i always thought of an american as a spe^^^^^^t position as thay are used to fill the final pieces of the puzzle.

as a coach it saddens ma that so much critisissum is placed on him sure he has turn overs and gets a little selfish but thats the risk with an american its the nature of the yank but you take in two ways...
1 its going to hurt you if he dosnt have some sense of control
2 youll get points


against west sydney here on the coast a couple of weeks ago we led by 15 and the pigs closed it 8 then crowe hit 7 quick points in under 1:30 then put up two more shots and missed and was dragged off...

what did he do wrong in 2 mins 5 shots made 3 for 7points thats good shooting when your team mates are static off the ball.

any thanks for listening i think ill jump on the face book site sound like a winner it my get more members there than happy fans watching joyce stuff it up..

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iit saddens me to see a once upon a time true proffesional sucumb to what Brendaan Joyce has become ,putting his son in front of the team istruly pathetic ,even the novice of supporters can see it is wrong ,as a true G/coaster i drove to Brisvegas to watch the Blaze and found myself actually starting to barrack for the Bribane team in disgust ,did by season ticket this year but next not a prayer will go to the occasional game when either the Kings,Tigers or Brizvegas are in town,with true coaches not with hidden agendas like Joyce lets face it the kid tries hard but he will never be A TRUE BACK UP GUARD, Im sure you could find a number of juniors on the Coast who would just as well as SOJ, A question to the the people out there that know the game much better than i do ,How come the majority of the time when either a 1,2 or 3 man get replaced its SOJ gets on court which pushes players in positions that are not suited in there styk\le of play ,and young Demos who has done extremely well when he gets a opportunity sits on the bench more than he should is this a jealousy of Demos showing of SOJ ??

You know the answer to that. It's so nobody else looks too much better than the kid (on stats anyway) and so the kid looks better than he actually is (on paper anyway).
I just think its sad and pathetic that Gold Coast drew such a "dud" with personality/parental issues such as Brendan Joyce on their much awaited and first year into the NBL. Great venue, great city and civic identity, great supporter base etc etc...and somehow we get saddled with some "westie" with sweaty, rumpled shirts, a foul mouth , a bad attitude, poor personal fitness and presentation and an enormous vicarious childhood identity issue...??!!!
Owen would have taken Clacka's judgement on Joyce and had no way of knowing what a crock he'd brought. Clacka, being one to make sure he never has anyone around his program with a much talent as he personally, chose Joyce so he (Clacka) still looks top of the heap. Wont it be a "surprise" when Dave Clacka "has to" step in as Coach at the last minute...?!
Not to anyone who knows how manipulative Clacka can be!!! Sad really...golden opportunity being shat on by NBL has beens and shysters.
Look to Owen and Ben to restore a bit of the old "Cougar Cool" to the franchise in coming years.

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joyce sucks...
gulotta and jarred too young.
gulotta over jarred any day though...

[Wind in the Willows]

[QUOTE=Unregistered;1787]Have kept an open mind on the Brenden/Daniel Joyce imbroglio out of respect for Joyce's achievments as an NBL and National program Coaching identity. He raised my eyebrows with his actions with young Daniel at the Hawks, (after seeing his actions around the NSW coach and other spectator coaches at the 2005 U/20's where Daniel was a spectacular failure for NSW against Cedar, Williams and Cann from Qld.), but respected the Coach's imperative to back his judgement with his career. (Which it in fact turned out was the case!) QUOTE]

Sorry to split hairs... but you mentioned Joyce getting killed by all those QLD guards (which I can only imagine), just thought I'd remind you that Rhys Martin was starting pg and captain of that team. Petty I know, but it is important to give credit where credit is due.

Good day kind sirs

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Interesting comments - very simliar to a lot of the crap posted on other sites from nameless basketball fans denigrating Junior Joyce. Sure he played badly in the first 2 games - and recieved too much court time. Since then his minutes have been better managed and he has played his ROLE in the team quite well and helped us have a couple of good wins. In no way am I saying he has been a star but he has been more than servicable. Also worth remembering that the guy is under 20 and still has a lot of developing to do!
It would be good if some of the posters on here could actually watch a game - without prejiduce - and form some meaningful opinions of their own rather than just regurgitating what has already been posted on this subject previously!


HELLO CCARLIN

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Is C Carlin goin' out with Joyce??? The boy got it done tonight?!

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I have been to every blaze home game and so what you're about to read is not from a "poser that has watched a game without prejudice".
Joyce jr is given way too many minutes. He and his dad think they have so much to prove..they do because of the critisism they get, but it is making Joyce look worse. I also read "joyce.......still has a lot of developing to do". The he should be a damn development player...at best!!!
Here is a signature DJ move...every game....dribble it in and pass it out immediately while looking the other way...AND it mainly goes back to the player that passed him the ball?!?!?!
None defends him cause everyone knows him and his "game".
Bench DJ and watch the others play!~!!!

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Joyce has certainly played well the last two games, with 13 and 17 points respectively.

BUT

This is mainly because every time he gets the ball, he has almost a free shot because of the lack of respect (and rightfully so) given to him by his opponents. Added to this, any time the Blaze play a good opponent who employs any semblance of a full court press (Bullets, Kings, Tigers, Breakers) he is shown to be totally incapable of bringing the ball up. He just isn't good enough, plane and simple. This was plainly evident in both our meetings with the Bullets and definitely against the Tigers at home earlier in the season. Yes he is a good shooter, but I can make 75% of shots if there's no one within 5 meters of me. Against the good teams, he has looked atrocious.

Also, his fouls committed per minutes played must be one of the highest in the league, and he has almost no turnovers. But with BJ lambasting Crowe in the media everyday to take the attention of his son, Junior's job is safe.

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And I too have been to every Blaze home game, and their away games against the Kings and Bullets

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HELLO CCARLIN

Yes he sure does have a lot of developing to do. Seeing he is still under 20's maybe daddy should let him develop a little more in his own age group so he can save what dignity he has left. Last two games best of his career retire on a high!!!!

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I find this funny.
1 - from reading the comments about Daniel Joyce.
2 - The picture below. A NBL Player, wanting to get...HAMMERED?
http://i253.photobucket.com/albums/hh79/baz121/joycu.jpg

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Was at the Crocs v Blaze last night. Very impressed with Gold Coast, I think they are definitely a top four team with Sydney, Brisbane and Melbourne. I'm not a big Joyce Jr fan (or Joyce senior for that matter), but he nailed a couple of daggers from outside to seal the game for the Blaze, played well.

Crocs have issues, J.R. hasn't been involved enough lately hence the dismal offence (< 80ppg in last 2 games).

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I find this funny.
1 - from reading the comments about Daniel Joyce.
2 - The picture below. A NBL Player, wanting to get...HAMMERED?
http://i253.photobucket.com/albums/hh79/baz121/joycu.jpg
Noticed something interesting and very telling during a time out in tonight's Blaze/Tigers match
Pero Cameron contributed something during a time out and was met with a whole lot of eye rolling and scoffing by Son of Joyce. The stare that Casey Frank gave the impetuous youngster said it all and the kid had to pull his head in. What a tool!!!

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even tho joyce is finally starting to put pts on the board...
wheres patrick mills? he'd be a great pickup for blaze..

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wheres patrick mills? he'd be a great pickup for blaze..

Have you been living under a rock? Mills would laugh at that prospect the way he's going .....

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even tho joyce is finally starting to put pts on the board...
wheres patrick mills? he'd be a great pickup for blaze..

it's amazing how many bball fans haven't heard about mills yet.. but f you have been living under a rock he's killing it over in US college ball.. A sports show was even already discussing how high he would go in the Draft next season so dont think blaze will be replacing soj with him although they would love too..

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it's amazing how many bball fans haven't heard about mills yet.. but f you have been living under a rock he's killing it over in US college ball.. A sports show was even already discussing how high he would go in the Draft next season so dont think blaze will be replacing soj with him although they would love too..

how high do they think he will go? is he entering the next draft, or the 09 draft? draftexpress.com says in the 09 draft, Andrew Ogelvy (correct my spelling) will be in the top 20.

Also, that same website beleives Cairns centre, Nathan Jawai will be in the top 20 this coming draft.

Good to hear a few aussies could be suiting up in the nba soon

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nathan jaiwa aka baby shaq - kills it.
yeah its great to see some aussies making a name for themselves internationally.

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I find this funny.
1 - from reading the comments about Daniel Joyce.
2 - The picture below. A NBL Player, wanting to get...HAMMERED?
http://i253.photobucket.com/albums/hh79/baz121/joycu.jpg

what the hell r u doing stalking his myspace page.....dont u think thats taking it too far.....what he does in his personal life is none of your business. ...so what hes in the NBL and hes terrible, you guys have been whining about this for so long - MOVE ON

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what the hell r u doing stalking his myspace page.....dont u think thats taking it too far.....what he does in his personal life is none of your business. ...so what hes in the NBL and hes terrible, you guys have been whining about this for so long - MOVE ON

we will move on WHEN HES BACK IN WOLLONGONG WHERE HE BELONGS!!!!!!!!!!!!

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even tho joyce is finally starting to put pts on the board...
wheres patrick mills? he'd be a great pickup for blaze..
What?? To have him sit and play behind Daniel Joyce??!

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no u dickie. boot joyyce for mills will be good, although milss is in the running for the nba nxt yar.

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Hey all, I was ready and found out that Shawn Readhage is getting his Australian citizenship very soon and i was wondering if he would be able to Join the Boomers squad for Bejing or is it to late?

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no u dickie. boot joyyce for mills will be good, although milss is in the running for the nba nxt yar.

I think you missed the sarcasm ..... :lol2:

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Hey all, I was ready and found out that Shawn Readhage is getting his Australian citizenship very soon and i was wondering if he would be able to Join the Boomers squad for Bejing or is it to late?

Yes, he would be eligible, but i dont see a place for him, where is he going to play? 3 infront of Sammy Mac, Neilson or Sav.

Or Would he play for, where we have a stacked front court. I would hate to see an Australian player miss out, like a young guy like Barlow or Ingles, to pick up an American like Redhage who in all resepct isnt that much better. I think the upside to these young guys is far greater. Why bring a 2nd rate american to play for our National team?

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I think he should be included. He is an MVP candidate for this season (as he has been for several seasons now). Mackinnon has health concerns, Saville is perhaps showing signs of winding down in his career (or at least has not performed well enough this season to cement a place in the Boomers). Neilson isn't putting up the best numbers overseas and also has been prone to injuries of late.

Redhage is still fairly young so why shouldn't we start to include him now and reap the rewards. He is an extremely athletic and talented 4 who can play the 3. If he has made the commitment to become an Australian citizen then we should not discriminate against him because of his birthplace.

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For Redhage to be in the team, it means that you either dont bring Mackinnon, who has been out best player in international competition for awhile now, or you leave Neilson, which is ludacris too because he is playing overseas, and would have the knowledge, and is one of the smartest 4/3's around, or it means your leaving a young talent which will be the future of Australian Basketball behind like a Jawai, Ingles, Barlow, Oglilvy.

My team would be

C - Bogut
PF - Neilson
SF - Mackinnon
SG - Newley
Pg - CJ

C - Anstey
PF - Andersen
SF - Saville
SG - Black
PG - Mills

Res - Oglilvy/Jawai/Maric
Res - Barlow/Bruce/Ingles

You might want to bring a Jason Smith into the team for leadership, or you could move one of your younger Centres up to replace. But i dont see Redhage making that much of a difference, and you would be taking an Australian out of the team, and i dont agree with it. I would be suprised to see him in a green and gold in the Olympics

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Sorry same person as above, i thought of something better, since you complain about Sav, replace him with Mark Worthington (i forgot about him) lol, he is a bright young kid, with massive upside and international exp.

So really Redhage is an undersized 4, so he would play 3, which is worthington or mackinnon, and hes just not that much if at all better then those 2.

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I would be suprised to see him in a green and gold in the Olympics
But doesnt it depend if they have a Kings contract next season?

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I'd probably put Harvey in place of Black

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Blaze signed new import, Luke Whitehead.

Quick YouTube search shows he should be entertaining..... :lol2:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PG5MdCXS5SQ

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0U7Fm2MME10

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Some good points. Worthington instead of Saville and Harvey for Black I agree with. Don't forget about Luke Schenscher, how are we going to fit him in?! Perhaps Redhage is just a reserve for now. I'm not an Ingles fan at all, the kid has some natural talent but not the smarts to compete at the intenational level. Barlow made him look like an amateur when Dragons played the Tigers a couple weeks back.

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Some good points. Worthington instead of Saville and Harvey for Black I agree with. Don't forget about Luke Schenscher, how are we going to fit him in?! Perhaps Redhage is just a reserve for now. I'm not an Ingles fan at all, the kid has some natural talent but not the smarts to compete at the intenational level. Barlow made him look like an amateur when Dragons played the Tigers a couple weeks back.

Yeah, agreed Ingles still needs work, but on potential alone we need to blood him, I am confident saying he will make a shot at the NBA, he is long, quick and explosive, just needs to get abit more consitancy and a bit of a better head (brain explosions) maybe a better coach :P lol

Wortho needs to be there, and Smack is our starting 3, no doubt.

Schenscher i have been a big fan of, but Brian doesnt seem to like him, opting for Wade over him in the qualifyer (i dont understand) and in the worlds... so i am just doubtful, otherwise i would put him there instead of Anstey (after his i dont want to play in the qualifyer attitude), since we already have bigs that can stretch the d in Andersen and Neilson, and Smack can play 4 too and stretch.

The 11 and 12 players need to be youth, to get the experience, Australian Basketball has a bright future, so we need to get the young guys the exp.

Another option at the sg instead of Harvey or Black is Ryan (or even Kendall) just to have that shooter off the bench incase of zone D's... dunno, I am not gorgian, so i cant give you answers, thats just the team i would take.

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Some good points. Worthington instead of Saville and Harvey for Black I agree with. Don't forget about Luke Schenscher, how are we going to fit him in?! Perhaps Redhage is just a reserve for now. I'm not an Ingles fan at all, the kid has some natural talent but not the smarts to compete at the intenational level. Barlow made him look like an amateur when Dragons played the Tigers a couple weeks back.

dude we want to talk about the blaze here and all things that matter such as how is hawk doing is he recovering well and a bit of info on his replacement and also how usless joyce jnr is please start a boomers blog if what to discuss sav and redige(prob spelt wrong cause i dont care) not intrested in reading whom every body believes is the man let the master coach sort it out and enjoy that side of it. i wish australia all the best at the games and i hope new zealand will be there it can only be better for ocienia and could attract quality teams to tour both countries

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If Ldubb is luke whitehead... are we sure we want an "American Gangster"?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GqjoNlYYD3w

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last night

breakers 126 blaze 93

15 Luke Whitehead 8/15 1/2 1/6 18 4 1 5 1 2 0 1 2 26:03 not bad for a player who just got off the plane and dosnt know the team or the plays

2 Daniel Joyce 0/2 0/0 0/0 0 0 2 2 0 3 5 0 2 24:55 then

WHAT THE HELL IS GOING ON HERE

a few ticks under 25 mins 2 shots put up with no defence on him (as teams dont respect him)
2 boards 3 assists 5 turn overs and 2 steals only thing to note is no dumb fouls committed

5 * Jason Crowe 4/11 2/9 5/7 15 1 4 5 1 4 3 0 1 39:00
good minutes for an american POINT GUARD who only played 15 mins in his natural position

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i have a dream the some day we can look at a box score of an away without shaking our heads in discust

2 Daniel Joyce 0/3 0/3 0/2 0 1 1 2 1 4 0 0 0 22:48

dont you realy think he should have his minutes reduced by about 20

5 * Jason Crowe 4/9 3/7 6/8 17 0 4 4 2 3 4 0 0 37:44 around 15 mins played in his natural position

7 Tyson Demos 0/0 0/0 0/0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 5:40 quiet game should of got more minutes

crowe i believe good point guard can hit the open 3 finds the best shot option and can create by getting in to the lane when there is no movment off the ball

joyce sux misses open shot consistantly wont attack the rim has weaker defence than crowe

demos i like this kid plays hard his inexperance shows but puts up more fight the his best friend can score will try and rebound and actulay gives ua a 5th player on the floor

when will this joke ever end lets collect for wollongong so they can stay in the leauge and ask them to please have joyce back

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I feel sorry for you guys after having to watch the same thing unfold last year. What you can be sure of is that Brendon will not adjust his behaviour as he is hell bent on proving the knockers wrong. His strong uncomproising character is what made him such a successfull player and coach in the first place and he I believe, genuinely thinks that his son deserves the minutes he gets. He has set up the team knowing that he would be playing those minutes. I would question though his judgement and I think that the if same minutes were given to Tyson demos he would have progressed beyond Daniel by this time and if he had played 25 or so for nearly two seasons would be a 10 point per game NBL player, and a good defensive option as well.
Anyway I dont hold out much hope for anything to change up there unless Clacka or the owners tap the coach on the sholder and deliver him an ultimatum.
Good luck.

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How can SOJ be the best Defensive Man or even best 6th man?


What drugs is BJ on?????????????????????

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I feel sorry for you guys after having to watch the same thing unfold last year. What you can be sure of is that Brendon will not adjust his behaviour as he is hell bent on proving the knockers wrong. His strong uncomproising character is what made him such a successfull player and coach in the first place and he I believe, genuinely thinks that his son deserves the minutes he gets. He has set up the team knowing that he would be playing those minutes. I would question though his judgement and I think that the if same minutes were given to Tyson demos he would have progressed beyond Daniel by this time and if he had played 25 or so for nearly two seasons would be a 10 point per game NBL player, and a good defensive option as well.
Anyway I dont hold out much hope for anything to change up there unless Clacka or the owners tap the coach on the sholder and deliver him an ultimatum.
Good luck.

After the last 1/2 of the season i have to sit and wonder does Joyce snr Really have the Blaze best of interest in mind or his sons ,have been a staunch Gold Coast supporter past and present coached rep and club played the local league and what Joyce snr is doing out there to promote a player that is not worthy of the minutes he is getting is pathetic . Was season ticket holder this year but it wont be happening next year rather drive to Brisvegas and watch a team and coach that are there for the right reason not for promotion.
And if rumours are true Heal to replace Crowe and to keep Hawke and Whitehead ,i think that says it all Heals legs lucky to last 3-4 minutes a quarter i supposr more time for SOJ.

A Question to all -could you see SOJ playing NBL for any team that his father was not involved in and getting the glutton of minutes that he clearly does not deserve ??????????????????

And totally agree with the post above regarding young Demos ,gives more value to the team when he is on the court than SOJ some might argue that he is not a P/G but either is SOJ

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missed the perth game last night had other committments but went to the sydney kings game now hows this for f@#!*d up

3mins to go blaze come back from 21 down to trail by two Sub joyce on for whitehead talk about a glory move!!! sub on his boy so if they beat the kings he was on the court then he commits a dumb foul argues with the ref i was wishing he got a tech then he out of the game and we could of held him responsible for the loss.

any way its time on the coast we boo joyce and cheer him off the court and when he puts up a famous wide open miss we all yell sub.

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also any one who votes him for the 6th man award should be shot
and defensive player needs to learn more about the game take your breast out of his mouth and be hung!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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jus throwing the question out there... is soj goin to get some time to develop in aba this year.. cos by the looks of things he needs it be good to see how he goes up against other fringe NBL guards like Rhys an Fitzy etc..

if he thinks his too good his kidding himself cos other guys who played QABL are killin it this year Jawai/Cam T to name the obvious 2.. although if he's restricted dont think i would waste the spot on the squad..

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jus throwing the question out there... is soj goin to get some time to develop in aba this year.. cos by the looks of things he needs it be good to see how he goes up against other fringe NBL guards like Rhys an Fitzy etc..

if he thinks his too good his kidding himself cos other guys who played QABL are killin it this year Jawai/Cam T to name the obvious 2.. although if he's restricted dont think i would waste the spot on the squad..

I think you will find he would be restricted ,he would not have time to play ABA will be brushing up his skills to be starting P/G at the Olympics , HAHA!! ,Dad is assistant coach so you never know

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I think you will find he would be restricted ,he would not have time to play ABA will be brushing up his skills to be starting P/G at the Olympics , HAHA!! ,Dad is assistant coach so you never know

thats all he i dont brian g will let his national team be the laughing stock of the world hes proberly ashamed of the fact his assistant is a joke in the nbl for the way he favours his son

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[dam my spelling is bad

thats all he is i dont think brian g would let his national team be the laughing stock of the world.

its bad enough that oyce is a joke in the nbl .

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Does anyone know out of the Blaze who's playing ABA and where?

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soj would struggle in the u/18 PL.

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is anyone from blaze playing ABA???

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well another season has begun and looks like same rubbish different year

a few ticks under 24mins of court time for joyce and nothing achieved but a 10pt loss when will the blaze wake up. looks like tyson stepped up why aren't the minutes switched.

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After the last 1/2 of the season i have to sit and wonder does Joyce snr Really have the Blaze best of interest in mind or his sons ,have been a staunch Gold Coast supporter past and present coached rep and club played the local league and what Joyce snr is doing out there to promote a player that is not worthy of the minutes he is getting is pathetic . Was season ticket holder this year but it wont be happening next year rather drive to Brisvegas and watch a team and coach that are there for the right reason not for promotion.
And if rumours are true Heal to replace Crowe and to keep Hawke and Whitehead ,i think that says it all Heals legs lucky to last 3-4 minutes a quarter i supposr more time for SOJ.

A Question to all -could you see SOJ playing NBL for any team that his father was not involved in and getting the glutton of minutes that he clearly does not deserve ??????????????????

And totally agree with the post above regarding young Demos ,gives more value to the team when he is on the court than SOJ some might argue that he is not a P/G but either is SOJ
All pretty good points, valid and credible. Time will tell about BJ's loyalty to the franchise or himself but Hammer made a good point the other night. Shane scored 14 pts, Daniel scored 13..???

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After the last 1/2 of the season i have to sit and wonder does Joyce snr Really have the Blaze best of interest in mind or his sons ,have been a staunch Gold Coast supporter past and present coached rep and club played the local league and what Joyce snr is doing out there to promote a player that is not worthy of the minutes he is getting is pathetic . Was season ticket holder this year but it wont be happening next year rather drive to Brisvegas and watch a team and coach that are there for the right reason not for promotion.
And if rumours are true Heal to replace Crowe and to keep Hawke and Whitehead ,i think that says it all Heals legs lucky to last 3-4 minutes a quarter i supposr more time for SOJ.

A Question to all -could you see SOJ playing NBL for any team that his father was not involved in and getting the glutton of minutes that he clearly does not deserve ??????????????????

And totally agree with the post above regarding young Demos ,gives more value to the team when he is on the court than SOJ some might argue that he is not a P/G but either is SOJ
Blaze will struggle without Crowe. Denying Adam Tolo a try out will haunt the franchise in time. Watkins use by date fast approaching. If history is any guide Shane to be coaching Blaze by seasons end.

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Blaze will struggle without Crowe. Denying Adam Tolo a try out will haunt the franchise in time. Watkins use by date fast approaching. If history is any guide Shane to be coaching Blaze by seasons end.

They also denied Brendan Teys the opportunity to just train with the side. Can't have anyone showing up SOJ. Make no mistake about it either, Teys craps all over Baby Joyce.

Watkins, pfft was a bad hire by Joyce senior in the first place. Hopefully he gets his marching orders quick smart.

I understand there maybe light at the end of the nepotinistic tunnel, Owen is taking notes. We can only hope.

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what happened to jason aucoin?
whats the lo-down

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what happened to jason aucoin?
whats the lo-down

The demise of 3 NBL teams is what happened to Aucoin. Plenty of real NBL players out on the market now, see Vanderjatcht ect.

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All pretty good points, valid and credible. Time will tell about BJ's loyalty to the franchise or himself but Hammer made a good point the other night. Shane scored 14 pts, Daniel scored 13..???

Heal is always going to score 10-16 pts on average ,but it is only the start of the season the legs are still fairly fresh , SOJ 13 not hard to do when the opposition are standing of you and double teaming the players that can hurt you Westover is not dumb SOJ on court =4 v5 simple and logical b/ball he is not a threat especially of the dribble and shooting percentage not much to talk about either ,2 big airballs v Taipans without any pressure
Cracks appeared on the first night of the season sitting behind the Blaze bench was interesting especially when you watch coaching staff more than the crappy game both teams put out on the floor that night ,Harvs (captain) gives SOJ spray for not getting free for a pass in front of BJ 10 sec later benched with a evil look from BJ , Next quarter Heales gives SOJ a spray for a inbound pass he threw at Heales ankles few seconds later bench couple of nice words exchanged betweem himself and BJ , and this is at the first game of the season , Vandy and Demos come on and do a great job for the minutes they got in the first half never to be seen in the second ,Whats with that BJ ????
Long year coming up fpr the Blaze and their Fans ,
Could this be the wooden spoon year ?
Will BJ last the season before the Blaze Money men get serious about basketball on the Gold coast and their fans ?
If BJ does go does SOJ gets shown the door ?
How long before Heales and BJ have fallout of Mega Proportions ?
Time will tell could be exiting times coming up sitting behind the Blaze Bench

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It would be good for someone to finally publically confront Joyce about his blatant coddling of SOJ .... Heal is the bloke that will do it for sure.

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maybe u should big ben...

[Dusan Mandic]

another joyce is a joke message brought to you by people who know the game paid for by blaze season ticket holders.... haha whoever has been writing these you are the man! Keep them coming and I hope they get mass publicity, if it's possible Daniel Joyce angers me even more than you!

Daniel Joyce this season is shooting 5/21 2/10 5/8 for 17 points @ 4.3 pg along with a whopping 2.3 assists in 26 and a half minutes! I mean the kid stinks, but I would dead set get off his case if he grew some balls and worked on his game at ABA level and showed me deserves an NBL contract, but we all know that's not going to happen.

Here's a list of under-23 QABL guards (soon to be QBL) that would absolutely murder this chump!

Rhys Martin
Michael Cedar
Kerry Williams
Zane Meehl
Brendan Teys
Deba George

Joyce is so far behind these guys it's ridiculous but I'd even be interested to see how he goes against..

Luke Cann
Chris Cedar
Heath Gameron
Simon Taylor
Scott Kenny

I mean the kid didn't even go AIS! Demos is fresh out of the AIS, plays a two spot which Dickhead Joyce ends up playing half the time anyway, it is beyond a joke! Hope the blaze lose about another 10 in a row and maybe both of them can be out of the league for good!

Quick side note: Just to add to the Gold Coast Blaze's exceptional track record with recruiting outstanding young talent, how about the Blaze signing Zac Carter to a dev. spot! Wow, didn't this kid just set the SEABL on fire this year! His ability to shoot the 3 sure is attractive, I guess he just needs to work on the little things like rebounding, defence, a pull jumper, attacking the bucket, getting to the free throw line, passing the ball... I'd take him over Chris Goulding anyday! lol guess we wouldn't want Goulding showing up Joyce as well...

Chris Goulding 46.3% FG 41.0% 3pt 74.4% FT 24.5 ppg 6.0 rpg 1.5 apg - born 1988

Zac Carter 37.3% FG 35.7% 3pt 60.0% FT 8.4 ppg 4.4 rpg 0.8 apg - born 1989

Interesting... if only we could have Joyce's stats to compare to that as well...

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another joyce is a joke message brought to you by people who know the game paid for by blaze season ticket holders.... haha whoever has been writing these you are the man! Keep them coming and I hope they get mass publicity, if it's possible Daniel Joyce angers me even more than you!

Daniel Joyce this season is shooting 5/21 2/10 5/8 for 17 points @ 4.3 pg along with a whopping 2.3 assists in 26 and a half minutes! I mean the kid stinks, but I would dead set get off his case if he grew some balls and worked on his game at ABA level and showed me deserves an NBL contract, but we all know that's not going to happen.

Here's a list of under-23 QABL guards (soon to be QBL) that would absolutely murder this chump!

Rhys Martin
Michael Cedar
Kerry Williams
Zane Meehl
Brendan Teys
Deba George

Joyce is so far behind these guys it's ridiculous but I'd even be interested to see how he goes against..

Luke Cann
Chris Cedar
Heath Gameron
Simon Taylor
Scott Kenny

I mean the kid didn't even go AIS! Demos is fresh out of the AIS, plays a two spot which Dickhead Joyce ends up playing half the time anyway, it is beyond a joke! Hope the blaze lose about another 10 in a row and maybe both of them can be out of the league for good!

Quick side note: Just to add to the Gold Coast Blaze's exceptional track record with recruiting outstanding young talent, how about the Blaze signing Zac Carter to a dev. spot! Wow, didn't this kid just set the SEABL on fire this year! His ability to shoot the 3 sure is attractive, I guess he just needs to work on the little things like rebounding, defence, a pull jumper, attacking the bucket, getting to the free throw line, passing the ball... I'd take him over Chris Goulding anyday! lol guess we wouldn't want Goulding showing up Joyce as well...

Chris Goulding 46.3% FG 41.0% 3pt 74.4% FT 24.5 ppg 6.0 rpg 1.5 apg - born 1988

Zac Carter 37.3% FG 35.7% 3pt 60.0% FT 8.4 ppg 4.4 rpg 0.8 apg - born 1989

Interesting... if only we could have Joyce's stats to compare to that as well...


I am interested in having a BBQ at the Spit or somewhere for everybody who thinks Daniel Joyce should have his contract ripped up and sent home.

If I were Tyson Demos, I would be absolutly spitting chips. Getting nill minutes in his second season, with out a chance to prove himself, behind Joyce will only hurt him trying to continue his NBL career when he moves clubs. Any given night, Tyson could out play Joyce, why can't daddy see?

Brenden Teys, Scott Kenny, Nash Allsopp, even Izzy Tueta could outplay Joyce for the 1 spot and they're between 17 and 19.

I hope some one convinces Daniel soon to go a season in QABL with Gold Coast. I would love to see Brenden Teys making him look silly.

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well another season has begun and looks like same rubbish different year

a few ticks under 24mins of court time for joyce and nothing achieved but a 10pt loss when will the blaze wake up. looks like tyson stepped up why aren't the minutes switched.

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So as a stalwart Bullets fan who hasn't had a chance to get down to a Blaze game this season due to time restraints, I'm sensing that Blaze don't have the omphf of Bullets. What a shame...

Luckily BDS Logan Thunder, WNBL, are picking up the slack. First game against Perth Lynx last week was a spectacular effort by the girls. Shame more Queenslanders didn't rock up for a very reasonable, only $12 entry fee.......compared to Bullets $40 entry fee......great night of basketball. Get behind Logan Thunder on the 17th, next Fri for a superb evening of top class basketball.

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I am interested in having a BBQ at the Spit or somewhere for everybody who thinks Daniel Joyce should have his contract ripped up and sent home.

If I were Tyson Demos, I would be absolutly spitting chips. Getting nill minutes in his second season, with out a chance to prove himself, behind Joyce will only hurt him trying to continue his NBL career when he moves clubs. Any given night, Tyson could out play Joyce, why can't daddy see?

Brenden Teys, Scott Kenny, Nash Allsopp, even Izzy Tueta could outplay Joyce for the 1 spot and they're between 17 and 19.

I hope some one convinces Daniel soon to go a season in QABL with Gold Coast. I would love to see Brenden Teys making him look silly.

If your bringing the sausages you'll get a few busloads up from Wollongong.
By the way we are very happy with Rhys Martin at the Hawks. Quick and has a killer crossover. Last night against Perth they put on a full court trap early in the first 1/4 that had the Hawks in all sorts of trouble. Cooks brought Rhys into the game early and he busted the trap every time and got us back into the game. When Daniel was here BJ would also have got him into the game early but would have had him giving the ball up and running to the front court so that he was shielded from the pressure, rather than taking the responsibility as a true point guard like Martin. Also as a young player should, Rhys plays more if he's going well and less iuf others are performing. That didn't happen and still does not happen with BJ & SOJ

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news flash straight out of sydney

mvp for the spirt was leaked from the game on the gold coast on friday night and coach beverage said for the first time ever outsiders dominated the voting

5pts Daniel Joyce hit two 3s early on then hid for the rest of the game giving us a 5 on 4 advantage
3pts Brendan Joyce playing his son and lack of instinct tried blaming his veterans for the loss when its been poor coaching all along
2pts Liam Rush game high 27 14 in the last quarter

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[Dusan Mandic]

Would love to continue the hating on Daniel Joyce, cos it's just so enjoyable and so easy, but could anybody who knows exactly how the NBL system works tell me how it is possible for Luke Kendall to sign with Perth? Before he signed they already had 11 guys (Hinson, PC, Redhage, Loughton, Knight, Rogers, Robbins, Caporn, Weigh, Victor, Dowell) not including 2 d. players Garlepp and Goulding. Not only did I think it was not possible to have 12 fully contracted players on your roster, but given that Redhage, Hinson & Victor would all be on 10 points and Loughton, Knight, PC & now Kendall would all be on high points as well, they would surely have to be over the 68 point limit? Can anyone enlighten me?

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Something has the change is the Gold Coast want a win. They can't wait for another shot at the Spirit or some lower team to try for a win.

Wouldn't be suprised if Joyce & son will be out of the side by mid season. I dream anyway. With Claxton or Palmer coming in to fill in for the season.

Tyson Demos is ready to explode with the right minutes.

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Would love to continue the hating on Daniel Joyce, cos it's just so enjoyable and so easy, but could anybody who knows exactly how the NBL system works tell me how it is possible for Luke Kendall to sign with Perth? Before he signed they already had 11 guys (Hinson, PC, Redhage, Loughton, Knight, Rogers, Robbins, Caporn, Weigh, Victor, Dowell) not including 2 d. players Garlepp and Goulding. Not only did I think it was not possible to have 12 fully contracted players on your roster, but given that Redhage, Hinson & Victor would all be on 10 points and Loughton, Knight, PC & now Kendall would all be on high points as well, they would surely have to be over the 68 point limit? Can anyone enlighten me?

I read somewhere that Rogers is on an injury waiver or something that allowed it??

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this was from Andrew Hamilton, courier mail a week or so ago. First press agent to have a dig at BJ. This is due to the fact that the gc bulletin are still in 'support the new local team, no bad press' mode.

SHANE Heal's dreams of revenge over the South Dragons were shattered last night as his old team extinguished the Blaze with a 107-90 victory.
After making the playoffs in its debut season, the Gold Coast was optimistic further success was around the corner but after kicking off the year with four straight losses, it faces a period of soul-searching.
Captain James Harvey was the dominant player on the floor with 23 points and after a shocking start to his Blaze career two weeks ago, Heal lit up the Gold Coast Convention Centre at stages to finish with 19 points.
But it was the Dragons who breathed the most fire to hammer home a stinging defeat to Heal, pictured, the man it sacked after two years as captain-coach.
The match was even in the first half, with the Dragons leading 24-21 at the first break and 48-45 at halftime. But then the visitors started to draw away as import Cortez Groves stamped his authority on the game. His eight points in the third quarter blew the Dragons' lead out to 78-65 at the final change.
The Coast's major problem was a shortage of contributors.
While the Dragons had six players with double figures, the Blaze had just three -- Heal, Harvey and centre Ben Melmeth (17).
Luke Whitehead looked to be still suffering the effects of the ankle injury that forced him to miss the first three games of the season.
He lacked explosiveness on the drive, and although he fought hard, he couldn't provide the scoring power the Blaze so desperately needed.
With Richmond AFL coach Terry Wallace and Collingwood great Tony Shaw among the 2786 onlookers, the visitors looked every bit the championship contenders experts have tipped them to be.
After the 17-point loss, Blaze coach Brendan Joyce surely will face some tough decisions about the future of his son Daniel.
Joyce has a successful NBL record and there is no doubt he is good for the game, with his sideline antics alone worth the price of admission.
No coach gets more involved. He patrols the boundary taking every shot with his team, battling hard for every rebound.
But questions will be asked if he continues to play his son big minutes while other would-be contributors sit unused and frustrated on the bench.
Last night his son played 26 minutes. His contribution was zero points, one rebound and four assists.
Scott McGregor played 18 minutes and scored nine points, pulled down five rebounds and had three assists. Casey Frank's numbers were also superior from about the same amount of game time.
And Tyson Demos, a kid with a bright future, sank a three-pointer during his two minutes on the floor.

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Saw that article a few weeks ago as well. I think as the team continues to perform poorly (and they will), more noise will gradually be made about the poor composition of the team and in particularly, Daddy Joyce's handing out overly generous playing time to son.

It's a sad state of affairs when their 11th man (Vanderjagt) is arguably their most productive player. Pero is out of his depth in this league and cannot compete, also well overpaid. Melmeth has no heart and is happy to settle for mid-range jumpers instead of playing inside like he should, and Scotty Mcgregor's best years are past him.

The two imports are pathetic, I really don't know why people sing the Hawk's praises. Whitehead is a waste of space as well. The Blaze would be kicking themselves that they didn't pick up Dusty when they had the chance. I've heard Bobby Brannen's name being bandied about as well, he would at the very least add some much needed inside brute strength. Like Dusty, he doesn't need set plays to get himself involved in the game.

I like Harvey, he is a decent player when he gets going, but he really needs a supporting cast. Despite cat calls from outsides, I also like that they got Heal. Yes he is getting old, but he can still score and he can still put bums on seats.

Have to say signing Zac Carter was a big question mark. Zac is ok, but there are plenty of players who could've been signed to be more productive to the organisation. For fuck's sake get Jason Aucoin back on there, if he isn't sick to death after being shafted last season. Mick Hill could've been snared for a bargain as well. Not liked by many, but he shits over Joyce Jnr any day of the week. One wonders what could have been if the Blaze signed QABL standouts Jay Andersen and Bryan Jett to deals. Much cheaper than the pair they have now and more productive. Anybody know if Thalo naturalises soon, he would surely have to be on their radar if he's going to become an Aussie.

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I have heard from close contacts that if Blaze dont get a win in there next three game that Joyce is a goooner...

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With the next 4 games being Hawks (A), Breakers (H), Tigers (A), and Crocodiles (H), a win is not looking very likely

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I have heard from close contacts that if Blaze dont get a win in there next three game that Joyce is a goooner...

wollongong 98 blaze 96

1 down 2 to go


start warming up those vocal chords na na na na hey hey hey good bye

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wollongong 98 blaze 96

1 down 2 to go


start warming up those vocal chords na na na na hey hey hey good bye

breakers 116 blaze 113 thats two tigers up next

im getting exited and some singing lessons

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breakers 116 blaze 113 thats two tigers up next

im getting exited and some singing lessons
after all this crap with bullets and kings hopefuly some thing good will happen this year

[Dusan Mandic]

I hope more than anything Joyce gets the sack, he is the biggest tool! How's the excuses he has used this year, injuries, travel schedule, what a wank! However, it isn't all this idiot's fault and alot of it has to do with their roster! Here's my thoughts...

Shane Heal - Never been a fan of him, especially after everything he said about Sammy Mac, and I thought Goldy signing him was a terrible move! However, he has been very solid IMHO. The fact that he is playing over 40 mins a game proves just how terrible Joyce Jnr. is at 1, but he does have alot of pride and while his shooting has been inconsistent he has been the leader and done a great job, far better than I expected. Grade: B+

James Harvey - started the year with injury problems and other than the 30 point haul against NZ last game really hasn't found his groove. Seems to be settling for the 3 too much and hasn't been near his great form from last year. Grade: B-

Jacquain Hawkins - I just don't see it! Talk now of him being released due to injuries, but he doesn't fit this team full stop. Yeah he's athletic but he really can't score and is horrible from the line. I think the 'NBA' tag is still following this guy around because I think he's a waste of an import slot IMHO. Grade: C-

Luke Whitehead - I actually don't mind Whitehead, moreso if he was alongside an import that could score because he does bring alot to the table. Loves his D, his hustle, his rebounding, and he can get to the rack, just can't shoot but if were to play the 4 and they just needed him to do those things he does well he would be so effective. Grade: C+

Casey Frank - His numbers actually appear to be up on last season, but I thought he was awesome last year and expected him to improve upon that form this season. I think he has been inconsistent and has lacked the energy for which he is known! Still have faith he can break out this season, but has fallen short of my expectations thus far. Grade: C+

Scott McGregor - Reminds me of a firefighter, or a teacher, who has all their leave saved up and is on a long vacation just waiting for retirement. Seriously, this guy is just in cruise control and couldn't give a damn. Surprised he did as much as he did last season, he has been done for a long time and is a waste of a roster spot. Grade: D+

Pero Cameron - Still has the ability to take over a game. To his credit the guy is such a talent, can bang away down low and consistently pot the 3, but unfortunately he struggles to keep up with this league and the older he gets the more it becomes an issue. This season it has started to become an issue, but has still been serviceable. Grade: C

Daniel Joyce - Well this has been covered extensively, do we need to go over it again? Has worked on his 3 enough that he can hit it wide open 30% of the time, let's give him a round of applause because that's all he can do. Grade: D

Tyson Demos - Obviously has had no opportunity. But I would like to say, that although we talk about him waiting in the wings for his deserved opportunity, I personally believe there are people would deserve the opportunity more than Tyson and his friendship with Daniel still played a big part in getting a roster spot. Love the kid and hope he gets a chance, but just saying I think Chris Goulding and Shannon Seebohm are better players. Grade: C

Ben Melmeth - see Scott McGregor. Occasionally shows up and has 15-17, but this guy has so much game but now just cares so little. Grade: C-

Greg Vanderjagt - Vandy, you deserve all the credit in the world! Being out of a job and having to be number 11 has obviously lit a fire inside you and that hunger is making good things happen! Never believed him to be that talented, but even in Townsville he always got after it and did the little things. He is bringing that energy to the Blaze and it is paying off with some very quality numbers. This grade does not mean he has been the best player on the team, but in terms of getting the most out of himself and being a positive influence he should be highly commended! Grade: A

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well thats 3 losses and no sign of him going today dont tell us that owen is going to use the one import sympathy card

i hope i havnt lost out on the money ive spent on those singing lessons



fire joyces now

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I hope more than anything Joyce gets the sack, he is the biggest tool! How's the excuses he has used this year, injuries, travel schedule, what a wank! However, it isn't all this idiot's fault and alot of it has to do with their roster! Here's my thoughts...

Shane Heal - Never been a fan of him, especially after everything he said about Sammy Mac, and I thought Goldy signing him was a terrible move! However, he has been very solid IMHO. The fact that he is playing over 40 mins a game proves just how terrible Joyce Jnr. is at 1, but he does have alot of pride and while his shooting has been inconsistent he has been the leader and done a great job, far better than I expected. Grade: B+

James Harvey - started the year with injury problems and other than the 30 point haul against NZ last game really hasn't found his groove. Seems to be settling for the 3 too much and hasn't been near his great form from last year. Grade: B-

Jacquain Hawkins - I just don't see it! Talk now of him being released due to injuries, but he doesn't fit this team full stop. Yeah he's athletic but he really can't score and is horrible from the line. I think the 'NBA' tag is still following this guy around because I think he's a waste of an import slot IMHO. Grade: C-

Luke Whitehead - I actually don't mind Whitehead, moreso if he was alongside an import that could score because he does bring alot to the table. Loves his D, his hustle, his rebounding, and he can get to the rack, just can't shoot but if were to play the 4 and they just needed him to do those things he does well he would be so effective. Grade: C+

Casey Frank - His numbers actually appear to be up on last season, but I thought he was awesome last year and expected him to improve upon that form this season. I think he has been inconsistent and has lacked the energy for which he is known! Still have faith he can break out this season, but has fallen short of my expectations thus far. Grade: C+

Scott McGregor - Reminds me of a firefighter, or a teacher, who has all their leave saved up and is on a long vacation just waiting for retirement. Seriously, this guy is just in cruise control and couldn't give a damn. Surprised he did as much as he did last season, he has been done for a long time and is a waste of a roster spot. Grade: D+

Pero Cameron - Still has the ability to take over a game. To his credit the guy is such a talent, can bang away down low and consistently pot the 3, but unfortunately he struggles to keep up with this league and the older he gets the more it becomes an issue. This season it has started to become an issue, but has still been serviceable. Grade: C

Daniel Joyce - Well this has been covered extensively, do we need to go over it again? Has worked on his 3 enough that he can hit it wide open 30% of the time, let's give him a round of applause because that's all he can do. Grade: D

Tyson Demos - Obviously has had no opportunity. But I would like to say, that although we talk about him waiting in the wings for his deserved opportunity, I personally believe there are people would deserve the opportunity more than Tyson and his friendship with Daniel still played a big part in getting a roster spot. Love the kid and hope he gets a chance, but just saying I think Chris Goulding and Shannon Seebohm are better players. Grade: C

Ben Melmeth - see Scott McGregor. Occasionally shows up and has 15-17, but this guy has so much game but now just cares so little. Grade: C-

Greg Vanderjagt - Vandy, you deserve all the credit in the world! Being out of a job and having to be number 11 has obviously lit a fire inside you and that hunger is making good things happen! Never believed him to be that talented, but even in Townsville he always got after it and did the little things. He is bringing that energy to the Blaze and it is paying off with some very quality numbers. This grade does not mean he has been the best player on the team, but in terms of getting the most out of himself and being a positive influence he should be highly commended! Grade: A


Very nice.

I think next season, if there is a next season for the blaze, should see Owen and Claxton take over a little bit, if not to save the club, to save their $$.

First- Get rid of the coach, find an up and coming coach or maybe a Bruce Palmer. Some one local. I think even Syd Mines could do the job.

Second - Bye bye to the veterns in Melmeth & McGreggor. Keep Heal and Pero for another season to bring some leadership before leaving.

Third - New coach HAS to limit Joyce Jnr's minutes, if keeping a roster spot at all.

Fourth - Sign up some talented young kids, maybe out of the AIS or Shannon Seebholm or Goulding as mentioned. & put Vandy in the first 10.

Fifth - Keep Casey Frank, Tyson, Whitehead, harvey and this new import 3 man.

Start this season, see some improvment next season.

It's just going to get worse as the season gets on..

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How has Cameron been a leader? He hasn't done squat!

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Very nice.

I think next season, if there is a next season for the blaze, should see Owen and Claxton take over a little bit, if not to save the club, to save their $$.

First- Get rid of the coach, find an up and coming coach or maybe a Bruce Palmer. Some one local. I think even Syd Mines could do the job.

Second - Bye bye to the veterns in Melmeth & McGreggor. Keep Heal and Pero for another season to bring some leadership before leaving.

Third - New coach HAS to limit Joyce Jnr's minutes, if keeping a roster spot at all.

Fourth - Sign up some talented young kids, maybe out of the AIS or Shannon Seebholm or Goulding as mentioned. & put Vandy in the first 10.

Fifth - Keep Casey Frank, Tyson, Whitehead, harvey and this new import 3 man.

Start this season, see some improvment next season.

It's just going to get worse as the season gets on..

You lost me when you mentioned Sid Mines as a possible coach for an NBL side......

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You are out of your mind if you think Sid Mines can coach an NBL side

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I agree to an extent about a new coach being a local, but there has to be some NBL experience behind them. Ronny Rat would make sense, but IMHO he is not a head coach in this league and Daisy Ryan would be a great choice, I would love to see him finally get a shot at it. This would of course depend on logistics though...

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I agree to an extent about a new coach being a local, but there has to be some NBL experience behind them. Ronny Rat would make sense, but IMHO he is not a head coach in this league and Daisy Ryan would be a great choice, I would love to see him finally get a shot at it. This would of course depend on logistics though...

I think you need some head coaching experience and some success at that. Someone who can put a team together and get them playing well. Coaches that consistently have good results with their teams. Neil Tweedy an interesting prospect me thinks! Wayne Larkins another. Aaron Ferne perhaps. Joyce came out of SEABL Ballarat so did Al Westover after succesfull stints as head coaches. Tweeds has been a lconsistent egend in QABL, State League, ABA, Super 8 or whatever the format was/is since pussy was a kitten.

I heard he's been around so long that he coached a guy for Jeruselam who went all world.

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If only basketball was scored like golf, Daniel Joyce would be up there with Tiger Woods, when looking at his stats from the 36ers games. Zeros in every category except fouls (1) and blocked shots (1) in 26mins!

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Hahaha how arrogant are some of you people?

Did you not see that he scored 24 points against the 'Spirit' on Wednesday night. On Friday he hit the winning shot in Wollongong. He is doing some pretty cool things and its anoying to hear so many loser come onto this website and payout our team.

If we want to start winning games shouldent we be supporting our team through a tough time? Not pointing the finger, making it worse for everyone invloved. We don't attend trainings and the rest of the team sessions,so who are we to judge?

IF anybody has read the Shane Heal article on the NBL website it is clear that Heal also has a great respect for the kid. That's all he is anyway, just a young baller trying to make his way through the ranks of the NBL. It's tough enough for any junior to develope into the league but with all the crap that supporters from his 'OWN' team give him its got to make his task alot tougher. And there is no dbout that he reads sites like this one and sees this kind of stuff, what do you think that this does to his confidence when he suits up infront of his home crowd :S? Shouldent he have a feeling of being at home, of confidence, instead of feeling that he HAS to prove himself.

No im not one sided, i can see what alot fo people are saying in terms of having local talent instead of him and yeh i agree. At the end of the day its not his fault:his dad is the one who gives him the minutes, and the general manager and owners of the Blaze are the ones responsible for the recruiting decisions. Its not just Joyce Sr. running the show.

Alot of the people that are making these comments are adults. To those of you that are making these comments, you need to have a good look at yourself.

Anyway, lets get behind Daniel and our team and get them through the rest of this season.

Peace,

Gold Coast Basketballer

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Hahaha how arrogant are some of you people?

Did you not see that he scored 24 points against the 'Spirit' on Wednesday night. On Friday he hit the winning shot in Wollongong. He is doing some pretty cool things and its anoying to hear so many loser come onto this website and payout our team.

If we want to start winning games shouldent we be supporting our team through a tough time? Not pointing the finger, making it worse for everyone invloved. We don't attend trainings and the rest of the team sessions,so who are we to judge?

IF anybody has read the Shane Heal article on the NBL website it is clear that Heal also has a great respect for the kid. That's all he is anyway, just a young baller trying to make his way through the ranks of the NBL. It's tough enough for any junior to develope into the league but with all the crap that supporters from his 'OWN' team give him its got to make his task alot tougher. And there is no dbout that he reads sites like this one and sees this kind of stuff, what do you think that this does to his confidence when he suits up infront of his home crowd :S? Shouldent he have a feeling of being at home, of confidence, instead of feeling that he HAS to prove himself.

No im not one sided, i can see what alot fo people are saying in terms of having local talent instead of him and yeh i agree. At the end of the day its not his fault:his dad is the one who gives him the minutes, and the general manager and owners of the Blaze are the ones responsible for the recruiting decisions. Its not just Joyce Sr. running the show.

Alot of the people that are making these comments are adults. To those of you that are making these comments, you need to have a good look at yourself.

Anyway, lets get behind Daniel and our team and get them through the rest of this season.

Peace,

Gold Coast Basketballer


i guess he wont be at the spit for the fire joyce party

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Heaps of stuff about the Blaze

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Hahaha how arrogant are some of you people?

Did you not see that he scored 24 points against the 'Spirit' on Wednesday night. On Friday he hit the winning shot in Wollongong. He is doing some pretty cool things and its anoying to hear so many loser come onto this website and payout our team.

If we want to start winning games shouldent we be supporting our team through a tough time? Not pointing the finger, making it worse for everyone invloved. We don't attend trainings and the rest of the team sessions,so who are we to judge?

IF anybody has read the Shane Heal article on the NBL website it is clear that Heal also has a great respect for the kid. That's all he is anyway, just a young baller trying to make his way through the ranks of the NBL. It's tough enough for any junior to develope into the league but with all the crap that supporters from his 'OWN' team give him its got to make his task alot tougher. And there is no dbout that he reads sites like this one and sees this kind of stuff, what do you think that this does to his confidence when he suits up infront of his home crowd :S? Shouldent he have a feeling of being at home, of confidence, instead of feeling that he HAS to prove himself.

No im not one sided, i can see what alot fo people are saying in terms of having local talent instead of him and yeh i agree. At the end of the day its not his fault:his dad is the one who gives him the minutes, and the general manager and owners of the Blaze are the ones responsible for the recruiting decisions. Its not just Joyce Sr. running the show.

Alot of the people that are making these comments are adults. To those of you that are making these comments, you need to have a good look at yourself.

Anyway, lets get behind Daniel and our team and get them through the rest of this season.

Peace,

Gold Coast Basketballer

Sorry Mrs Joyce but reality is SOJ stinks as a NBL player and especially for the minutes he is getting .If daddy wasnt coach would not even be playing NBL. And once his and daddys time is up with the Blaze and if the teams survives their dictatorship ,there will be no where else to go ,because no team in their right mind would take them on either as coach or player .SOJ has 2 lucky games and you think he is brilliant what about the other 20+ games for the Blaze Reality check soj is not good enough for the minutes and of course Heal is going to say what he has BJ has made sure he is on top dollar for a has been . If SOJ was played as a DP and was getting the minutes that Demos is getting i dont think anyone would have a problem with it but 25+min a game you are kidding ,what do you think most of the fans are stupid ,maybe you should have a good look in the mirror .
Because of BJ & SOJ there is a lot of basketball/Blaze fans tha will be turned of buying season tickets next year and i can tell you there is plenty .have a look at crowd numbers decline at the moment , if i want to go to a circus ill wait for one to come to town instead of buying a family season ticket to go to the one at the convention centre at the moment.

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EXCEPTIONALLY quick with the ball, Joyce is a ruthless competitor who is capable of both creating and scoring.

Joyce averaged 16 minutes and four points per game in his rookie year and finished with a healthy 2:1 assist to turnover ratio.

He is capable of swinging to shooting guard, averaging 20 points and seven assists in the Waratah League (NSW State League, 2007) and is one of the top guards in Australia in his age group.

Joyce is the teenage son of Blaze coach Brendan Joyce and has excelled on the pine on his own merits.

“I've trained every day of my life to get to this point. I've had no shortcuts,” says Daniel.


The profile for SOJ on the Blaze site
After i read this crap i could not stop laughing for a couple of minutes the parts i love the most
Exeptionally quick with ball - Old man Maher had no trouble t all keeping up with SOJ exeptionall speed HAHAHAHA

I've had no shortcuts,” says Daniel - Whats 25+ mins in NBL without any talent & Daddys help HAHAHAHAHAHA
This is absolutely PRICELESS- man my gut is killing me from laughing HAHAHAHAHAHA !!!!!!!

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Hahaha how arrogant are some of you people?

Did you not see that he scored 24 points against the 'Spirit' on Wednesday night. On Friday he hit the winning shot in Wollongong. He is doing some pretty cool things and its anoying to hear so many loser come onto this website and payout our team.

If we want to start winning games shouldent we be supporting our team through a tough time? Not pointing the finger, making it worse for everyone invloved. We don't attend trainings and the rest of the team sessions,so who are we to judge?

IF anybody has read the Shane Heal article on the NBL website it is clear that Heal also has a great respect for the kid. That's all he is anyway, just a young baller trying to make his way through the ranks of the NBL. It's tough enough for any junior to develope into the league but with all the crap that supporters from his 'OWN' team give him its got to make his task alot tougher. And there is no dbout that he reads sites like this one and sees this kind of stuff, what do you think that this does to his confidence when he suits up infront of his home crowd :S? Shouldent he have a feeling of being at home, of confidence, instead of feeling that he HAS to prove himself.

No im not one sided, i can see what alot fo people are saying in terms of having local talent instead of him and yeh i agree. At the end of the day its not his fault:his dad is the one who gives him the minutes, and the general manager and owners of the Blaze are the ones responsible for the recruiting decisions. Its not just Joyce Sr. running the show.

Alot of the people that are making these comments are adults. To those of you that are making these comments, you need to have a good look at yourself.

Anyway, lets get behind Daniel and our team and get them through the rest of this season.

Peace,

Gold Coast Basketballer
Oh P-LEASE!!
This is professional sport not the Joyce family retirement and development benefit facility. If poor little Daniel cant stand the heat (and it's obvious he cant) then step out of the NBL kitchen. The Gold Coast basketball community and supporters have waited too long for an NBL return to see it sabotaged by interstate has beens/never will be's and that includes the general manager who presided over this mess like he did with the last one. The Blaze supporters and sponsors deserve better than a 2-13 win loss record and the most embarrassing situation in the NBL dont they?

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well i was sitting at work today when i heard alan black had been sacked from carins all i could do was say what the !@#% and froze for a bit but then i had a brain snap wouldnt it be nice to have wollongong totaly upstage joyce and have a news flash of joyce fired replaced by black and sent daniel packing with his dad....

new push for gold coasters alan black for head coach and his son as a true nbl guard the missing ingrediants to a successful side.

and in another news flash daniel who leads mvp voting at every other club but his own has slipped from the top of wollongongs voting. Hoping for another game where he is out played in every aspect of the game may just get top spot back after hitting that one in million prayer to sink the hawks last time the two teams met.


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well i was sitting at work today when i heard alan black had been sacked from carins all i could do was say what the !@#% and froze for a bit but then i had a brain snap wouldnt it be nice to have wollongong totaly upstage joyce and have a news flash of joyce fired replaced by black and sent daniel packing with his dad....

new push for gold coasters alan black for head coach and his son as a true nbl guard the missing ingrediants to a successful side.

and in another news flash daniel who leads mvp voting at every other club but his own has slipped from the top of wollongongs voting. Hoping for another game where he is out played in every aspect of the game may just get top spot back after hitting that one in million prayer to sink the hawks last time the two teams met.


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Think you'll find B Joyce's termination clause payout would just about keep the Taipans and Spirit afloat for another season. Nice work by the Blaze general Manager. Seem to remember it was BJ who gave Clacka the foot in when his last Gold Coast effort went belly up. Quid Pro Quo? Cant see BJ going anywhere before his contracts up or the franchise folds through lack of interest. (Regardless of however much genuine coaching talent is available)

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Think you'll find B Joyce's termination clause payout would just about keep the Taipans and Spirit afloat for another season. Nice work by the Blaze general Manager. Seem to remember it was BJ who gave Clacka the foot in when his last Gold Coast effort went belly up. Quid Pro Quo? Cant see BJ going anywhere before his contracts up or the franchise folds through lack of interest. (Regardless of however much genuine coaching talent is available)

How much would BJ be on per year?

and the rest of the team, i'd be interested to hear how much each player is earning, especially soj.

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well i say id have to agree with the two posts above this im sure gold coast fans would kick in to a fund to help pay out joyce may be a few wollongong fans may just help out and yes id love to know how much soj is on is he on a per minute played contract or standard youd think it was a per minute played contract for the time he gets..

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well i was sitting at work today when i heard alan black had been sacked from carins all i could do was say what the !@#% and froze for a bit but then i had a brain snap wouldnt it be nice to have wollongong totaly upstage joyce and have a news flash of joyce fired replaced by black and sent daniel packing with his dad....

new push for gold coasters alan black for head coach and his son as a true nbl guard the missing ingrediants to a successful side.

and in another news flash daniel who leads mvp voting at every other club but his own has slipped from the top of wollongongs voting. Hoping for another game where he is out played in every aspect of the game may just get top spot back after hitting that one in million prayer to sink the hawks last time the two teams met.


another joyce is joke message brought to you by people who know the game paid for by blaze season ticket holders

OOOOOOO tough break mate, the blaze won last night and i so guess Joyce wasnt upstaged in the end.

If your going to hate so much why dont you put your name to your post so that everyone can see who you are instead of hiding behind a computer screen.

Grow up and start supporting the Blaze and there personal! We actually look like we could start winning some games now!

Peace

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We actually look like we could start winning some games now!

Doesn't even look close!! The Blaze are pathetic this season. Daddy Joyce is a cancer that needs to be shown the door.

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OOOOOOO tough break mate, the blaze won last night and i so guess Joyce wasnt upstaged in the end.

Grow up and start supporting the Blaze and there personal! We actually look like we could start winning some games now!

Peace
What like you did in overtime the other night against a completely demoralised Taipans team without their imports?? Gold Coast basketball supporters have waited a long time for a good bloke like Owen to give them a local team to support. They deserve better than this.

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OOOOOOO tough break mate, the blaze won last night and i so guess Joyce wasnt upstaged in the end.

If your going to hate so much why dont you put your name to your post so that everyone can see who you are instead of hiding behind a computer screen.

Grow up and start supporting the Blaze and there personal! We actually look like we could start winning some games now!

Peace

You didn't add your name to that post either sooo..

I want to support the Blaze, I mean, I really try. But I find myself at their home games laughing at daniel joyce sporting an nbl logo on his jersey. And his dad, standing on the sideline in his suit watching his little boy run around and have some fun while actual talent sits on the bench, and we loose.

Is blaze the only team to not pick up at least 1 player from either hte kings or bullets? Mostly every other team has, which has made them stronger.. Where's our boost? Shane?

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You didn't add your name to that post either sooo..

I want to support the Blaze, I mean, I really try. But I find myself at their home games laughing at daniel joyce sporting an nbl logo on his jersey. And his dad, standing on the sideline in his suit watching his little boy run around and have some fun while actual talent sits on the bench, and we loose.

Is blaze the only team to not pick up at least 1 player from either hte kings or bullets? Mostly every other team has, which has made them stronger.. Where's our boost? Shane?
Nobody who is potentially better than Daniel even gets a trial at the Blaze...so that limits the number of players getting trials to about...zero! Hope it can be rectified before the Blaze has to fold because the Joyce family and the Claxtons are the only spectators in the arena.

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Nobody who is potentially better than Daniel even gets a trial at the Blaze...so that limits the number of players getting trials to about...zero! Hope it can be rectified before the Blaze has to fold because the Joyce family and the Claxtons are the only spectators in the arena.

Brenden Teys & Nash Allsopp were both denied. Both are better point guards then Danielle Joyce on their worst day.

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Brenden Teys & Nash Allsopp were both denied. Both are better point guards then Danielle Joyce on their worst day. Not a point guard but an upcoming talent with a lot of public appeal, Adam Tolo was denied also. All Queenslanders too. At the 2005 U/20 Nationals QLD beat NSW by 46 pts using the strategy of allowing Joyce the ball and denying their real players. Nothings changed and the two guys who "owned" Joyce, Mick Cedar and Kerrie Williams are just starting to get contributing minutes in their NBL programs they have worked through the system for.

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DANIEL JOYCE @ Adelaide 36ers- 22 points, 4 rebounds, 2 assists

IS anybody going to give him some love?

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DANIEL JOYCE @ Adelaide 36ers- 22 points, 4 rebounds, 2 assists

IS anybody going to give him some love?

With Heal out SOJ have been playing 40 and 43 minutes per game. Last game he got 6, this game he actually hit some treys and was lucky to get 22, in a loss...

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DANIEL JOYCE @ Adelaide 36ers- 22 points, 4 rebounds, 2 assists

IS anybody going to give him some love?
Team LOST! Could have won with a PG who can get others involved. How many did his man score on him? Easy to make stats read anyway you want.

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DANIEL JOYCE @ Adelaide 36ers- 22 points, 4 rebounds, 2 assists

IS anybody going to give him some love?

mrs joyce wake up and face the facts people on here hate your son and husband some of us dont even go to games anymore as we are that fed up your son is not an nbl player he is a joke riding on daddys compramised coaching.

the blaze missed the boat when they let hawk go they should of gone for an american piont guard run heal at 2 and harvey at 3 and had your son 8 or even 9 on the bench.

what i find amazing is that they were getting around 3 & half to 4 thousand a game last year and only get 2- 2&half this year im amazed that they havnt starting asking questains as to why numbers are so low i dont care that they are last in the league im frustrated we are such a joke relying on joyce to full heals gap and play so many minutes that he dosnt deserve ...

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Don't worry Blaze fans, you are going to win 9 of your last 10 and finish 13-17 and sneak into the 6, hahaha. That's what Joyce said in an article on nbl.com.au, and continued to use excuses about injuries and schedule and so the bullshit goes on, Joycy you don't hear Leon Henry at Perth complaining do you? Rogers hasn't played a game, Caporn and Robbins have barely played, Crawford was out for a while, no excuses being used over in Perth. How about Cairns and the Spirit? Fair to say they have had things a little tougher than you, don't ya think Joycy? Spirit are missing Damien Martin through injury, have lost Rush, Low and Kazzouh and had Jason Smith out for the first 1/3 of the year and guess what Joycy, they still got it done! Maybe Joyce sr, just maybe, you are the problem! You are a joke that is just looking after his son's interests. I have come on here like everyone else in the past and criticised young Daniel but now I feel sorry for him because it's hot his fault, as usual Joycy, it's yours! For so long now it has been obvious what your interests in coaching the Blaze are, to give Daniel a ridiculous amount of minutes and to his credit he is starting to have a few good games and I'm sure you are proud as a peacock. But let's not forget it has taken nearly 3 years for that to happen, while other young players who kicked Daniel's ass in juniors like Rhys Martin, Michael Cedar & Kerry Williams have had to work for their opportunity. But here's the good news... everyone with an objective opinion would take these 3 over your son anyday, and since you are going to continue to suck ass for the rest of the season and ultimately be fired and not be able to give Daniel 30 minutes on a platter, Daniel is finally going to go back to the bench where he should be and the 'real' players are going to be out their on the court. So best of luck for the future Joycy, maybe now that Daniel will need to prove himself you might let your precious sun play at ABA level. And just because your view of reality is that warped I will just spell this out for you once and for all, Daniel Joyce is not Andrew Gaze! Go sixers, Hodge 4 MVP! Peace

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with another season well and truly under way this week has produced two things one suprising and one not!

baked potato got on here and laughed at us (along with most of australia) talked hodge for mvp ..... he got paid in advanced and walked out sorry but no mvp for that piece of trash..also no chance of sixers getting out of first round of the playoffs with out him...

and now the the not so suprising one................................

"we are now officaly out of playoff contention" brendon joyce

now that he has confirmed what we were saying from week 3 the blaze have a long list of people off contract at the end of the season so with this in mind

we should fire
brendon joyce he is an idoit
daniel joyce not up to nbl standard daddy should of opened his eyes and stoped kiiding you
ben melmeth 2 words greg vanderjat
scott mcgregor too old too slow just no longer an asset in the league sorry

possible otions

luke whitehead
justin bowen
casey frank
pero cameron
shane heal

i think may two of these are good options one american needs to released for a point guard to move heal to the 2 man unless another decent point guard can be found (steven black)??
shane is a shooter and i feel he needs to be able just score rather than set up distribute the ball and score also with heal as a two the point would be tough too shut down and also with harvey one side of the court and heal on the other and vanderjat and an american inside.....
either a lot room in the middle of its raining 3s............ocuh that can hurt a lot of teams


then it comes down to pero and casey

casey ..... live wire, crowd pleaser (which is good for the league), inconsistant (bad for blaze)
pero ...great mind on court presence and good distrubtor of the ball (should of been played more) unfit over weight (reason why he wasnt played more)
advantage pero with plenty of off season training

players to resign

james harvey this is a give in another 3years min
greg vanderjat look at the mans stats this year alone 5 years hes only in his early 20s
tyson demos a season in aba and a new coach give him minutes for a chance 1 year


and last but not least a who the !@#$ alice spot

zac carter who is this guy where did he come from and why couldnt this spot have gone to a gold coaster.

all of this is based on knowing a majoriy of contracts were up this year and not fully knowing how many others will carry over to next year.

with some of these changes taking (especaly the firing list ) we will start going to the games again next year and not only enjoy the basketball that we play but be proud of our whole team and not just the ones who have to play around such a joke of a coach and son combo

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Give me Casey Frank over Pero any day.

Casey would cost much less, and he also has the quicks to keep up with the NBL style of play. Pero just doesn't cut it - never has, never will. Forget the fact he can 'distribute' the ball ... if he can't play more than ten decent minutes then forget him if he ain't gonna play for peanuts. Casey is inconsistent yes, but far more valuable in my opinion.

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Give me Casey Frank over Pero any day.

Casey would cost much less, and he also has the quicks to keep up with the NBL style of play. Pero just doesn't cut it - never has, never will. Forget the fact he can 'distribute' the ball ... if he can't play more than ten decent minutes then forget him if he ain't gonna play for peanuts. Casey is inconsistent yes, but far more valuable in my opinion.
Agree with Ben. Pero lovely bloke and would be good for family etc to retire on Gold Coast but not finance retirement with a Blaze contract. Casey Franks has the experience athleticism and X factor to compete in the NBL and with a new coach who makes rational decisions and utilises all players talents I'm betting Casey's game would become way more consistent.
Really hoping Blaze bite the bullet pay out the Joyce family benevolent fund and remove Claxton from future management decisions before it's too late for another Gold Coast NBL franchise.

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Agree with Ben. Pero lovely bloke and would be good for family etc to retire on Gold Coast but not finance retirement with a Blaze contract. Casey Franks has the experience athleticism and X factor to compete in the NBL and with a new coach who makes rational decisions and utilises all players talents I'm betting Casey's game would become way more consistent.
Really hoping Blaze bite the bullet pay out the Joyce family benevolent fund and remove Claxton from future management decisions before it's too late for another Gold Coast NBL franchise.


If it was not for Claxton there would be no NBL team on the G/Coast or ABA team as a matter of fact .
Claxton would not be the only one responsible for the hiring of the Joyce circus or pensioner Heal that was a group decision with the money men having the final decision.

Until the SOJ coaching clinic is eliminated Blaze will never go forward and the fans will stay away

Blaze should bite the bullet and get rid of SOJ at least ,both Joyces would be better release Bowen bring in a Import P/G capable of playing big minutes ,bring in a young P/G as back up preferably a player that has just finished college,Vanders has to be a definate keep Melmeth as backup big and training partner,keep Heals if he plays of the bench behind Harvs,keep Frank ,need good Aussie 3 man,would keep Pero if used to his strengths can be very valuable also a very good role model for the younger players

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If it was not for Claxton there would be no NBL team on the G/Coast or ABA team as a matter of fact .

What bullshit! Locals know better.

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Hahahah i am a local and have been playing ball on the coast for the past ten years. I know that its true, Claxton was definately the driving force behind the creation of both the Gold Coast Goannas and the Blaze.

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Hahahah i am a local and have been playing ball on the coast for the past ten years. I know that its true, Claxton was definately the driving force behind the creation of both the Gold Coast Goannas and the Blaze.
Need to have been around a bit longer and closer to the action to enter that argument. Anyone can quote the crap clacka writes about himself in the Bulletin.

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1- Steven Black
2- Harvey
3- Bowen
4- Whitehead
5- Vander

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6- Heal (give him another year)
7- Casey Frank
8- Tyson Demos
9- New younger big
10- Another 4 man

development spots - 1- Zac Carter
2- brenden teys / nash allsopp / scott kenny / Jayden Tom
Keep Anto as a training number, he cant suit up cause of college plans.

Give Coach Black an offer with his son. That's a real father/son combo.

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1- Steven Black
2- Harvey
3- Bowen
4- Whitehead
5- Vander

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6- Heal (give him another year)
7- Casey Frank
8- Tyson Demos
9- New younger big
10- Another 4 man

development spots - 1- Zac Carter
2- brenden teys / nash allsopp / scott kenny / Jayden Tom
Keep Anto as a training number, he cant suit up cause of college plans.

Give Coach Black an offer with his son. That's a real father/son combo.

anto will struggle to get to college due to the fact he has suited up for ABA ffor the last couple of years

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anto will struggle to get to college due to the fact he has suited up for ABA ffor the last couple of years

funny you say that he will 'struggle' considering hes shown multiple people his athletisism and skill. attitude has changed to a positive immensely and he continues to train with blaze, getting good looks and improving his ball handling. I believe there is a few colleges he is talking with, but wether they are big or small is another thing.

but i can guess you can say, its not going to be a 'struggle' for anto to get into a college

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Need to have been around a bit longer and closer to the action to enter that argument. Anyone can quote the crap clacka writes about himself in the Bulletin.

Can second that, clacka is that full of his own shit, its a joke. hes been apart of junior gold coast basketball and the competition is disgraceful. Gold coast basketball needs a new face lift, and that means gettin rid of the old kooks who think they are 'top shit' and bring in fresh ideas in a great basketball city...

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Can second that, clacka is that full of his own shit, its a joke. hes been apart of junior gold coast basketball and the competition is disgraceful. Gold coast basketball needs a new face lift, and that means gettin rid of the old kooks who think they are 'top shit' and bring in fresh ideas in a great basketball city...
Great call ma'man!!...but be prepared to be pilloried rumour mongered blocked for blockings sake and stabbed in the back for the rest of your days.
The trouble is that GC is made up of too many people with no other social standing than some perception as a big wheel around basketball. The memories of the achievements (miniscule as they were in most cases) are so faded the stench from the rotting carcasses drives fresh thinking and people away from the game.

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funny you say that he will 'struggle' considering hes shown multiple people his athletisism and skill. attitude has changed to a positive immensely and he continues to train with blaze, getting good looks and improving his ball handling. I believe there is a few colleges he is talking with, but wether they are big or small is another thing.

but i can guess you can say, its not going to be a 'struggle' for anto to get into a college

He means struggle with eligibility. The NCAA is now being much more strict with applications because they don't like the number of Aussies and other foreigners using up the scholarships that they feel should be going to their own kids. Apparently they are now classifying ABA as a professional league, and so those kids who have played ABA are having issues being let through because they are by default professional players which is not allowed.

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Joey Wright lodged an offer on a property on the Gold Coast last thursday.
Yesss...!!

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Joey Wright lodged an offer on a property on the Gold Coast last thursday.
Yesss...!!

Before I get too excited by this prospect....... is your source reliable?

What does everyone else think about this?

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Before I get too excited by this prospect....... is your source reliable?

What does everyone else think about this?
Depends whose asking. (Be excited!)

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Good to see Owen taking an interest in the SEABL competition. Seemed to enjoy the game Saturday night in a sponsors box at Carina. Should be more owners involved at grass roots level. Maybe good if everyone started supporting the game at all levels. We need to get united if we are ever to attract the right people back to the sport.

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Good to see Owen taking an interest in the SEABL competition. Seemed to enjoy the game Saturday night in a sponsors box at Carina. Should be more owners involved at grass roots level. Maybe good if everyone started supporting the game at all levels. We need to get united if we are ever to attract the right people back to the sport.
Sure you didnt mean he was sitting in the 'Owners' box? With Joyce and co. gone maybe he's now able to have a look at available talent. Maybe he's looking to 'buy' the Brisbane/Districts/Spartans/Bullets if FOX dont support a GC team? Maybe he's looking for a feeder club now he's not being fed bullshit anymore?
Maybe he just remembers those good times with big Al and couple of stubbies post match around the pool at the old Pacific Hotel in Southport. Back to the future!

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He would be watching his investments I would think. The only blaze players signed to next year are demos and vandy. With all contracts being null and void he would be seeing how they perform and if they will have a job next season.

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He would be watching his investments I would think. The only blaze players signed to next year are demos and vandy. With all contracts being null and void he would be seeing how they perform and if they will have a job next season.

Or he could be genuinly interested in what is happening in Brisbane. The Spartans have an elite squad plus maybe another to come so it is smart for Blaze to take an interest. Owen is no fool and will work with those he sees as moving forward. Maybe he is about to become a sponsor or just maybe wanted a night out at basketball with no strings attached. One thing is for sure he and Bruce are talking much much more then they have in the past. Time will tell.

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maybe maybe if only if only

if only me auntie had bollocks she'd be me uncle

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Or he could be genuinly interested in what is happening in Brisbane. The Spartans have an elite squad plus maybe another to come so it is smart for Blaze to take an interest. Owen is no fool and will work with those he sees as moving forward. Maybe he is about to become a sponsor or just maybe wanted a night out at basketball with no strings attached. One thing is for sure he and Bruce are talking much much more then they have in the past. Time will tell.
It's reasonably well known by now that less than a hand full of franchises met the criteria for entry to the new NBL and as such there'll be no NBL competition for a year till they can rectify the situation. On this basis big Al's show will be the only 'interstate' game in town.
Could strengthen the QABL a bit player wise, in turn give D League a better profile as a feeder league and should see increased interest in the WNBL. Least we've got college ball on ESPN to stay in touch with the game.

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It's reasonably well known by now that less than a hand full of franchises met the criteria for entry to the new NBL and as such there'll be no NBL competition for a year till they can rectify the situation. On this basis big Al's show will be the only 'interstate' game in town.
Could strengthen the QABL a bit player wise, in turn give D League a better profile as a feeder league and should see increased interest in the WNBL. Least we've got college ball on ESPN to stay in touch with the game.

Also will be able to catch QABL and SEABL games on livestream, a new service coming in a few weeks.

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What the hell are you talking about "it's reasonably well known that there won't be a league next year"? People who keep saying this clearly have no idea. The fixed costs of running an NBL franchise mean that NO ONE in the league could go a year without playing. That's not an option for anyone. This only worked with soccer because they had a complete restructure of the league, and relaunched with completely different franchises to the ones that participated in the NSL.

No one outside of the morons at BQ and BA is even considering taking a year off from the NBL.

On another note, I hear that Joey Wright will be making an appearance in Australia at any moment, apparently they're just sorting out contract stuff with Brendan Joyce and then he's gone. There was a lot of scuttlebut about him going to Townsville, but now that Gleeson has re-signed I think he'll be lucky to get a job anywhere. What a dramatic fall from grace- Australian assistant to unemployed

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[QUOTE=Unregistered;14796]What the hell are you talking about "it's reasonably well known that there won't be a league next year"? People who keep saying this clearly have no idea. The fixed costs of running an NBL franchise mean that NO ONE in the league could go a year without playing. That's not an option for anyone. This only worked with soccer because they had a complete restructure of the league, and relaunched with completely different franchises to the ones that participated in the NSL.

Actually that was the every reason BA did the review with new criteria. Not saying one is right or one is wrong.

Reality says you are right but logic suggests that maybe time to stop and really think.

Teams that are definately in are Perth, Adelaide, Tigers, Dragons, NZ, Gold Coast and Townsville. Seven teams is pretty good but really not enough to attract a sponsor and or keep the television deal. Not all had a million dollars so where does that leave those who surender thier licenses like the Gong and Cairns.

So lets say BA prop up Sydney and Brisbane. They will require funds from the State bodies is my guess and not sure that will be approved. Why would a program like Townsville or Newcastle be willing to allow local members money to prop up a team in another city.

Lets be fair here if the State body starts proping up an NBL franchise they are setting themselves up for a fall at next election. Social players just want to play and will not be willing to allow fees to be used to pay players who they never see. Also what about the WNBL and those teams that are not being propped up within the State. Gold Coast in NBL and Logan in WNBL are entitled to equal share of State funding no matter what you say if BQ try to prop up an NBL team. I am not saying they are going to do this just trying to play devils advocate.

Yes we need pathways but we also need to make sure we do not burn down the walls of the house while we are trying to keep the fire going in the kitchen. Actually lived in a house were they did just that. No fun let me tell you.

So to cut a long post short I am thinking that some how the 7 clubs will allow funds from Fox to be used to prop up Brisbane and Sydney because if they do not then they will not get a cent.

This is not a bad place to start and then it will come down to what our adminstratots of these teams do. Try and win or remain focused on the future. What will the fans do is another issue but hopefully they will stay loyal. Didn't see a lot of that in Sydney though last season.

Lets hope the new face of basketball which gets released this week, I think, is the image and direction we want and attracts people to our sport for the right reasons.

Long I know but lets all stay positive.

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I read in the perth newspaper that Perth has lost a major sponsor aswell, and are in a bit of financial trouble too.

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Teams that are definately in are Perth, Adelaide, Tigers, Dragons, NZ, Gold Coast and Townsville. Seven teams is pretty good but really not enough to attract a sponsor and or keep the television deal. .
Think you'll find youve overestimated the number of franchises that could meet ALL criteria for inclusion by about 4.

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What the hell are you talking about "it's reasonably well known that there won't be a league next year"? People who keep saying this clearly have no idea. The fixed costs of running an NBL franchise mean that NO ONE in the league could go a year without playing. That's not an option for anyone. This only worked with soccer because they had a complete restructure of the league, and relaunched with completely different franchises to the ones that participated in the NSL.

No one outside of the morons at BQ and BA is even considering taking a year off from the NBL.

Haha dont think anyone is taking a year off by choice rookie. Thats like saying a manufacturing company whose not selling their product and losing money by the day cant and wont shut down because the people making their money from it 'just cant' go a year without their income ??? No money no honey baby! Now these guys arent battling factory workers and it seems the cookie jar is empty and nobodies in any hurry to fill it again even if they had the dosh just to see it continue the way it has been.
Sad for the players who'll have to take their considerable talents to Europe and America to remain professional basketballers but maybe not such a bad thing for Basketball in general to torniquet the wounds that are bleeding hundred dollar bills and have a period of recuperation and new growth to sustain their future.
Maybe those 'morons' at BA who have had to be thrown in to administer the embarrasing meltdown have a plan to build a new league and franchises from the bottom up with a strong base...so they dont topple over.

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No one is having a year off calm down. Geez where do you get your facts from. The new league will have atleast 8 teams. Perth adelaide melb dragons nz tville cairns and goldy. With the chance of a syd and bris aswell. Teams that have shown interest aswell but look more likely for exception a year from now were hobart newcastle and wellington. There is still interest in this game in aus it just needs to be run properly. Not sticking up for BA because I think they are absolute jokers but atleast the have shut down the current comp and are trying something new with the same rules and regulations for everyone on entry to the league.

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Depends whose asking. (Be excited!)

Did you see this from yesterdays paper?

http://www.goldcoast.com.au/article/2009/03/25/62931_gold-coast-blaze.html

It seems that Joey isn't coming out after all. Very dissappointing.

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Did you see this from yesterdays paper?

http://www.goldcoast.com.au/article/2009/03/25/62931_gold-coast-blaze.html

It seems that Joey isn't coming out after all. Very dissappointing.
Bevo would be an even better option for a variety of reasons IF they can attract him away from his NSWIS and Canberra gigs.

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Joyce finished season as coach despite axing

Nick Smart
March 30th, 2009

BRENDAN Joyce was told he was to be sacked by the Gold Coast Blaze late last season but chose to stay and coach out the remainder of the year.

An investigation by The Gold Coast Bulletin has found Joyce was told of his termination by the club's board of directors after being called in for a meeting with three games remaining last season.

A bewildered Joyce was given the option of coaching out the final games or standing down immediately following the club's wooden spoon season.

The former Wollongong championship-winning NBL coach refused to step aside at the time and then led the Blaze to three straight wins to finish off the season.

The Blaze are expected to this week officially announce the termination of Joyce.

Joyce, the NBL's coach of the year runner-up only one season ago, signed a high six-figure, four-year deal with the club and brought his entire family with him when he joined.

There are still two years to run on his contract.

It is understood the Blaze have been looking at their legal options and have therefore delayed making the termination public.

They are hoping that under the revamped national basketball league all pre-existing contracts will be made void and therefore they won't have to pay Joyce further remuneration.

Despite recent speculation that former Bullets coach Joey Wright was now staying in the United States, the former NBL championship-winning coach is still tipped to take over the Blaze for next season.

"At this point in time I can't make a comment," said Joyce when contacted by The Bulletin.

The Blaze decided to get rid of Joyce following its 8-22 season, even though he had taken the club to the playoffs in the franchise's first year.

It is understood the playing group were not told of the sacking when it happened, with the exception of a small handful of players, including his son and point guard Daniel Joyce.

Joyce went to Hong Kong once the season ended and that is when the club informed assistant coach Mark Watkins that his contract would not be renewed as part of the cleanout.

Former Brisbane and Gold Coast Rollers player Ron Radliff is set to be Wright's assistant as well as coaching the Gold Coast Goannas ABA side.

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Joyce, the NBL's coach of the year runner-up only one season ago, signed a high six-figure, four-year deal with the club and brought his entire family with him when he joined.

There are still two years to run on his contract.

It is understood the Blaze have been looking at their legal options and have therefore delayed making the termination public.

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Board of Directors need to look at the management expertise or otherwise of a GM who would sign a sacked coach whose career was on the ropes due nepotistic un professionalism at Woolongong to a 4 year deal with a massive termination clause.
Was it quid pro quo for when Chocko gave the GM a soft place to land years ago after the Rollers went arse up on his watch?
Better late than never. Least Owen wont be copping shit from his scrimmage buddies anymore and they'll renew their season tickets...if we have a league.

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SOJ makes his ABA debut for Sydney Commets and goes 1-11 from 3 point territory. On fire NOT

Daniel Joyce Min 36:37 FG 5/21 3pt 1/11

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We are gonna have a league!!!!! Good times. The new board is meeting this week and the announcements of the teams will be very soon. Cairns taipans IN wollongong hawks IN, that is a huge boost for basketball in this country that the ppl rallied to keep their teams in this great sport. 9 teams so far but I have also heard that a sydney team is a REAL chance, that would make 10 a nice round number. Exciting times.

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SOJ's last game in the Waratah v Norths Bears

32 mins

2/13 FG (15%)

0/2 FT

2/9 3 pt


In a league that's far worse than the QABL. What's most concerning is that he has only gotten to the FT line once in 2 games.

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SOJ's last game in the Waratah v Norths Bears

32 mins

2/13 FG (15%)

0/2 FT

2/9 3 pt


In a league that's far worse than the QABL. What's most concerning is that he has only gotten to the FT line once in 2 games.
Mate it's probably not the kids fault that his Father lives vicariously through him and puts him in situations that bring stigma upon him. I felt sorry for Dan when I saw first hand how his old man conducted himself around the U/20's in 05 when Dan was up against Reece Martin, Mick Cedar Kerry Williams and Luke Cann and couldnt play with any of them. He's not our problem anymore so maybe no need to keep riding him ?

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Yeh that's a great point. He's actually not a bad bloke - was just put in a bad situation.

Oh and for the record, in his third game for the Sydney Comets, Dan went 12/15 from 3 point land.

Finishing the game with 41 points and 9 assists.

Peace.

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soo im intrigued, with the new season starting later this year (???), who looksw like being apart of the new team? there seems to be a cleanout taking place and i am interested on everyones thoughts on coaches and potential player signings...

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soo im intrigued, with the new season starting later this year (???), who looksw like being apart of the new team? there seems to be a cleanout taking place and i am interested on everyones thoughts on coaches and potential player signings...

It's gone so quiet on the board, something must be brewing.
Come on now, someone must know what's going on? Do we have Joey or not?

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It's gone so quiet on the board, something must be brewing.
Come on now, someone must know what's going on? Do we have Joey or not?

Definitly have the Rat, Ronnie Radcliffe as assistant at least. Saw him walking out of the Oasis shoping centre (where the blaze office is) with a smile and rolled up paper in his hand.

One could only jump a conclusion.

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Definitly have the Rat, Ronnie Radcliffe as assistant at least. Saw him walking out of the Oasis shoping centre (where the blaze office is) with a smile and rolled up paper in his hand.

One could only jump a conclusion.
Yeh Owen and him were doing the form for tomorrow. Owens got a couple of smokeys running at Eagle Farm.

[Emu]

Gold Coast Basketball 50th Celebrations

It has been 50 years since the first ball was bounced under the banner of “Gold Coast Amateur Basketball Association” (GCABA) at the Rotary Youth Centre in Southport.

This year we will celebrate this mile stone with a number of events. The major event will be our Celebration Dinner which will be held at the Gold Coast Convention Centre. We are very keen to collect as much memorabilia as possible for a static display and photograph presentation as part of the event. We are also looking to contact as many participants as possible who have been involved in the game on the Coast over these past 50 years. There have been a number of distinct eras of the Gold Coast Basketball organization over the generations and we would love to have representatives from each of these time periods.

There will be other events featuring our present crop of Junior and Senior players and we would be pleased to have our present players experience a comprehensive display of the history of Gold Coast Basketball.

If you can help with photos, uniforms, programmes etc, or contact information of former players; please contact Wendy at the Gold Coast City Regional Basketball Association on 0755944108 or drop an email to gccrball@bigpond.net.au

We are looking forward to collecting and archiving as much history as possible as well as re-connecting with many of those who have contributed to this great sport in this great city.

Matt Frankland – President GCCRBA

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Revamped NBL comp, but same old teams (http://www.goldcoast.com.au/article/2009/04/22/71501_gold-coast-blaze.html)

Coach Brendan Joyce has been dumped, and Joey Wright is in the mix to step in to his shoes next season.

The future of captain James Harvey is also in limbo. While keen to remain at the club, it is understood the Blaze are struggling to match offers from interstate clubs.

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I think you will find that in the new NBL structure that they have to have a team that they use to recruit players from in the development of the sport. The Blaze obviously see Spartans, at this stage, as such a farm in the future. I am willing to bet at least 4 maybe 5 or even 6 current or past Spartans will be in Blaze colours this coming NBL season. Please do not start on the SEABL versus QBL thing again. It just may be your club that is the next to join SEABL as the second team in 2010. The face of basketball in Australia is changing and some may not like what is about to happen with changed seasons etc but if our sport is to survive then we must all adapt and accept the direction.

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I think you will find that in the new NBL structure that they have to have a team that they use to recruit players from in the development of the sport. The Blaze obviously see Spartans, at this stage, as such a farm in the future. I am willing to bet at least 4 maybe 5 or even 6 current or past Spartans will be in Blaze colours this coming NBL season. Please do not start on the SEABL versus QBL thing again. It just may be your club that is the next to join SEABL as the second team in 2010. The face of basketball in Australia is changing and some may not like what is about to happen with changed seasons etc but if our sport is to survive then we must all adapt and accept the direction.
Thats fantastic that youve manouvred Spartans into the forefront in the SEABL/NBL professional scene Alan and even more fantastic that Owen has the bucks to match his passion for an NBL franchise for Sthn Qld when so many other franchises dont have the dollars and are still trying to form a league with organisations that dont have the financial resources not to fall over again.
Think most people are past caring about SEABL v QBL etc as youve gone your way with the big boys down south and good for you. Hope you have a league to be a feeder farm for.
We poor hokey types in QLD are just glad we have a QBL as a pathway for players and a pretty reasonable standard of basketball to turn out and watch each week....which is at least a little more than the NBL has achieved to date. The Southern and West Aus papers over the weekend and today are painting a gloomier picture about the future than your predicting, but you probably know something more than they and we all do. Unfortunate they cant attract 7 more people with the acumen and resources of Owen Tomlinson and Shamus McPeak to form their league but we live in hope. Hopefully now SD future seems assured you can turn some energy back to righting the sinking ship that BQ has become and ensure we have basketball players in the future to feed into the SD Spartans/Gold Coast Blaze emporium.

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[Hopefully now SD future seems assured you can turn some energy back to righting the sinking ship that BQ has become and ensure we have basketball players in the future to feed into the SD Spartans/Gold Coast Blaze emporium.[/QUOTE]

I am sure Al would love to get involved but rules say he (and the likes of DD from Cairns and other proven administrators at other Associations) can no longer be part of BQ while they elect to be part of their junior club. The people of BQ need to start taking an interest in what is happening in the sport at the grass roots level rather then what worked elsewhere and how we did it years ago. Did anyone know that the BQ AGM has been annopunced. I know some people who were interested in getting involved but they are wharry about the operational side and will again not get involved. Anyone on this board ever really asked why did we not get an NBL team off the ground. It is all about leadership. Some leadsers lead and others control. Sport needs passionate people at the top not just paper people. Have a look at soccer. They changed direction over night and now they are one of the elite media sports that once our great game was.

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Claxton is the reason y the blaze will only play maybe 2 more seasons max as he is draining the program dry (Just like he did with the Rollers) and they have an owner with no business knowledge just a large inhertence!!

Why does every1 talk about dan, putting the kid down, more ppl need to get in there head that when hammer was out injuryed he stepped up and played well, did the role he had to.

Pero, Melmeth & Scott Mc. were more a waste of space but they add to up to claxton!!

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I think you will find that in the new NBL structure that they have to have a team that they use to recruit players from in the development of the sport. The Blaze obviously see Spartans, at this stage, as such a farm in the future. I am willing to bet at least 4 maybe 5 or even 6 current or past Spartans will be in Blaze colours this coming NBL season. .
Spartans might have some competition as a feeder farm for the Blaze after this news.
http://news.theage.com.au/breaking-news-sport/shane-heal-to-help-coach-the-boomers-20090428-aljn.html

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Spartans might have some competition as a feeder farm for the Blaze after this news.
http://news.theage.com.au/breaking-news-sport/shane-heal-to-help-coach-the-boomers-20090428-aljn.html

ouch looks like 2009 has been a bad year to be a joyce

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Claxton is the reason y the blaze will only play maybe 2 more seasons max as he is draining the program dry (Just like he did with the Rollers) and they have an owner with no business knowledge just a large inhertence!!

Why does every1 talk about dan, putting the kid down, more ppl need to get in there head that when hammer was out injuryed he stepped up and played well, did the role he had to.

Pero, Melmeth & Scott Mc. were more a waste of space but they add to up to claxton!!


What stupid post by a MORON !!
How is Claxton going to drain the programme ?? , if it was not for Claxtons hard work the Blaze and its sponsors would not exist , you d@#kh$%d !!

Why was everyone putting down SOJ ? because for the minutes he was getting he was pathetic and combined with Heals Blaze was always on the back foot as the results show.
And the fact BJ played favourites with SOJ which he lost a lot of respect from senior players .
so crawl back under the rock that you surfaced from ,

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What stupid post by a MORON !!
How is Claxton going to drain the programme ?? , if it was not for Claxtons hard work the Blaze and its sponsors would not exist , you d@#kh$%d !!

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Hahahaha!!!!

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With Bevo signing with the Cats it looks like the Blaze are putting all their eggs in one basket.

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With Bevo signing with the Cats it looks like the Blaze are putting all their eggs in one basket.
Claka coaching again?

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With Bevo signing with the Cats it looks like the Blaze are putting all their eggs in one basket.

I would thnk with Joey at the controls of the Blaze from next season one would feel a lot happier. Big Joe now also on board and my guess is the recruiting has started.
Will be a bit hard given no one knows really what the owners are going to do. If the word on the street is correct owners and BA are going own ways. That would be sad but may be a short solution to at least some stability for the players.
This will change but at least we will have a season sooner rather then later.

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Will be a bit hard given no one knows really what the owners are going to do. If the word on the street is correct owners and BA are going own ways. That would be sad but may be a short solution to at least some stability for the players.
This will change but at least we will have a season sooner rather then later.
By 'going there own ways' do you mean staging a League without the sanction of BA? Fark! That would be radical! Could be exciting but a pretty short termed exercise I would think because any unsanctioned league would mean no FIBA sanction and would expect place all players/coaches etc who participate in it outside of the world sanctioning body which I guess would mean the only option left to play anywhere would be in the And1 shows or the world would need to all say stuff ya' and go their own ways from all the governing bodies. (Could be a good thing in some cases but just cant quite see it happening in any of the major countries where the professional franchises have been properly managed and marketed just to support some slow learners/low earners in Australia.)
Maybe you could start the ball rolling and take the Spartans and go their own ways from BA. Been done from BQ?!

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By 'going there own ways' do you mean staging a League without the sanction of BA? Fark! That would be radical! Could be exciting but a pretty short termed exercise I would think because any unsanctioned league would mean no FIBA sanction and would expect place all players/coaches etc who participate in it outside of the world sanctioning body which I guess would mean the only option left to play anywhere would be in the And1 shows or the world would need to all say stuff ya' and go their own ways from all the governing bodies. (Could be a good thing in some cases but just cant quite see it happening in any of the major countries where the professional franchises have been properly managed and marketed just to support some slow learners/low earners in Australia.)
Maybe you could start the ball rolling and take the Spartans and go their own ways from BA. Been done from BQ?!

Hee Hee! Now thats funny!

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By 'going there own ways' do you mean staging a League without the sanction of BA? Fark! That would be radical! Could be exciting but a pretty short termed exercise I would think because any unsanctioned league would mean no FIBA sanction and would expect place all players/coaches etc who participate in it outside of the world sanctioning body which I guess would mean the only option left to play anywhere would be in the And1 shows or the world would need to all say stuff ya' and go their own ways from all the governing bodies. (Could be a good thing in some cases but just cant quite see it happening in any of the major countries where the professional franchises have been properly managed and marketed just to support some slow learners/low earners in Australia.)
Maybe you could start the ball rolling and take the Spartans and go their own ways from BA. Been done from BQ?!

I do not think anyone is talking about breaking away from anyone. We are talking about an interim and simple season being played so the likes of Townsville, Adelaide and Perth who have done the right things can at least retain players (paying players to play is good). No one wants these guys to go broke waiting.
For the record Spartans did not break away from BQ either. Just a slight disagreement about the direction of the sport. Neither side is wrong just different oppinions.

Moving on. Made it my business though to watch the 5 major sporting CEO'S in a discussion yesterday about the future of sport in Australia. They covered topics such as more teams, marketing and current economic climate. The amounts of money they are talking about is obscene. Our sport did miss the boat and not sure who was responsible for that. Lack of doers and shakers is mostly the reason I am thinking.

Things they all agreed upon were.
1. Major sports need to have a direct link with grass roots. By this they agree that one can not survive without the other. If professional sporting teams do not allocate a certain amount of money and time to junior development and promotion they are doomed to fail. It is a case of the chicken and the egg.

2. Having only one governing group within a sport is the only way. This is something that BA is trying to do. The NBL must come under the admin of BA but BA must also accept that private owners are different then Association owned operations and will want a major input into the decisions made. Cricket Australia faced with dilema that private operators are looking at starting a 20-20 competition in Australia and how they go about getting them within the CA umbrella. We are not only sport with the private operations issues.

3. No place for isolating people or groups within the sport. You need to include everyone if you want the sport to go in one direction. They were all willing to accept others oppinions.

4. Sport is at cross roads as far as sponsorship goes. You need to offer more then a seat at a game. You must market better then most in a unique way. Your sport needs to find ways to raise revenue without coming from grass roots as money needs to be poured in here. The chicken and the egg. Cricket Australia recieves very little funding from grass roots and they put it back. If not for television coverage they would not be around. Sound familiar.

5. Leaders (CEO or President) of sport need to be very visible in good and bad times. They need to make sure that process is in place to deal with issues as they arise. The Board of these sports do not get involved in the day to day admin of the governing body. They all have a greater membership of past and current people from existing affiliated groups. They accept business people readily but also accept you need people who understand the sport on board.


Was a great 45 minutes and really was at the end common sense. I scanned the crowd but did not see any basketball people in attendance to listen and learn from the best at it.

As a sport we have a lot to learn from those getting it right or those that have succeeded at what they were doing. People such as Brian Kerle, Jeff VanG, Dennis (Tville), Dennis (Cairns) and others all need to be recuited back into our sport as advisors at different levels. They were all successful or still are within and we need to start afresh. Time for moving forward.

Rules that we need for the future are.

1. No looking back at who did what to who.
2. No set structures as far as competitions go. What will get most involved and what works for complete State.
3. Clear guidelines on rules and interpretations.
4. A sructure put in place that makes it possible to get from juniors to seniors at whatever level best suits your skill and committment.
5. A forum for all members to attend or make known thoughts. The hand works best with all of its fingers not just the chosen digit. Hard to do but would be wothwhile. If done on net you must be willing to identify yourself.
6. A program that recruits the past for the future. To many old boys and girls doing nothing for the future.


I know a long post but someone needs to start the process of discussion towards the future. If someone wants to move to another forum feel free.

Before people start ragging the thoughts though think about what we want, where do we want to be, how we got where we are and how best to change what we do not want.

My time is up so I will get off my soap box now. What will you do though that will make a difference to the greatset sport of all.

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Just read from nbl.com that the blaze have signed Joey Wright (pending on Blaze being in new NBL of course).

Will this signing lure players who have won and played under him before? Any thoughts/comments?

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Just read from nbl.com that the blaze have signed Joey Wright (pending on Blaze being in new NBL of course).

Will this signing lure players who have won and played under him before? Any thoughts/comments?

As long as Daniel leaves I'll pay for a seat and watch them.

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gold coast bulletin this morning reported that wright was signed with ron radlaiff as his assistant wright called harvey within 5 minutes of signing to ask him back blaze and his agent are talking.. dan joyces future at the club is in doubt

also reported joyce snr in fight with club to get outstanding money owed in his contract..


http://www.goldcoast.com.au/

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gold coast bulletin this morning reported that wright was signed with ron radlaiff as his assistant wright called harvey within 5 minutes of signing to ask him back blaze and his agent are talking.. dan joyces future at the club is in doubt

also reported joyce snr in fight with club to get outstanding money owed in his contract..


http://www.goldcoast.com.au/
Give Clacka his severence pay and let him pay Joyce out of that? He signed the ridiculous termination clause for a first year coach coming off a sacking who had nowhere else to go. A competent General Manager might have at least waited a season or two to see if Joyce fitted the program or repeated the stuff that got him sacked from Wooloongong before signing such a lucrative termination clause dont you think? Was it just a coincidence that Joyce gave Clacka a soft spot to land after he rode the Rollers into oblivion?

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Clacka is an all round, genuine tool. The sooner Owen gets rid of his old, deadshit ass he will see a revamped respect for the club

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So it was the "injury toll" that made the Blaze finish last! Fark! Here I was thinking it was because Joycie played his A res standard kid in the leaders spot and him, Clacka and Watkins disallowed any new talent even trying out for the team.
http://www.foxsports.com.au/story/0,8659,25449874-23769,00.html

[Mr bEn]

So it was the "injury toll" that made the Blaze finish last! Fark! Here I was thinking it was because Joycie played his A res standard kid in the leaders spot and him, Clacka and Watkins disallowed any new talent even trying out for the team.
http://www.foxsports.com.au/story/0,8659,25449874-23769,00.html

The article state that 'Joyce may be lost to Australian basketball'.

Great news I say - bloke was a joke before the Hawks booted him, and has to date single-handedly ruined the Blaze's chances at being competitive.

[Unregistered]

I do not think anyone is talking about breaking away from anyone.

Well, it looks like something is happening... Dragons and Tigers have just pulled out of the NBL.... Now what..?

[Unregistered]

Well, it looks like something is happening... Dragons and Tigers have just pulled out of the NBL.... Now what..?
Go with a League comprising financially viable organisations and structures. Simple really. Set the bar at this height and if Cities/Organisations wish to participate in the National League they have to have their ducks in a row and meet the criteria. If they cant, then play in a League they can afford and 'grow' to NBL.
It will only be a short term thing before people realise they have a new CEO who wont be compromised or intimidated and the ground rules are there for everyone to adhere to.
For the league to start again with teams on a knifes edge that fall over after another season would finish the league for good in the eyes of sponsors and broadcasters. Just taken the simplified approach for a while. "Small but solid".
p.s. I think you'll find the only reason Tigers threatened to withdraw was because BA intimated they might waver from the $1 million surety provision.(The Owner resigned from the board in protest actually) But Shamus is a league lifer and could see it was the only way to maintain public credibility and sort the chaff from the hay by making contenders show their credentials so to speak before admission.
Its a bit like cutting a plant back to sprout new growth.

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The article state that 'Joyce may be lost to Australian basketball'.

Great news I say - bloke was a joke before the Hawks booted him, and has to date single-handedly ruined the Blaze's chances at being competitive.
Thats Gold!
I was thinking the exact same thing when I posted that but was trying to keep it a bit nice. You obviously know some of the internal fiascos associated with the bloke from around the league. Owen has done a service...unintentionally...like most of Owens lucky breaks...but done just the same. If Owens old baller mates keep up the heckling at Friday arvo turkey ball there could be another exit from the Blaze pretty soon too that will make the clubs future even brighter still.
Joycie still has cronies at the inner sanctum at BA who will probably see him right for a cushy job for a year or two but Larry's new broom will eventually sweep things clean.

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Thats Gold!
I was thinking the exact same thing when I posted that but was trying to keep it a bit nice. You obviously know some of the internal fiascos associated with the bloke from around the league. Owen has done a service...unintentionally...like most of Owens lucky breaks...but done just the same. If Owens old baller mates keep up the heckling at Friday arvo turkey ball there could be another exit from the Blaze pretty soon too that will make the clubs future even brighter still.
Joycie still has cronies at the inner sanctum at BA who will probably see him right for a cushy job for a year or two but Larry's new broom will eventually sweep things clean.



YOU ARE A WANKER!!

Joyce is a good coach and a good guy (Obviously didnt get a chance to prove himself in the new league and claxton is the biggest cock in BA) Took a brand new franchise to the playoofs 1st season, thats pretty tough!!

[Mr bEn]

Joyce is a good coach and a good guy (Obviously didnt get a chance to prove himself in the new league and claxton is the biggest cock in BA) Took a brand new franchise to the playoofs 1st season, thats pretty tough!!

Thanks Mrs Joyce?

The Blaze's playoff appearance in their first season was nothing to crow about. They never came close to beating the top three teams (who were a mile ahead of anybody else), and they were lucky the rest of the field was particularly poor to average.

Joyce hand-picked the team, and look where he got them second season. Dead bottom. Can't sugar coat that. Greg Vanderjagt was far and away their best big, and Joyce refused to remove any of the deadwood to have him on the permanent roster. He made his bed and now has to sleep in it. Feel bad that Gold Coast supporters got treated to such a bad start.

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Thanks Mrs Joyce?

The Blaze's playoff appearance in their first season was nothing to crow about. They never came close to beating the top three teams (who were a mile ahead of anybody else), and they were lucky the rest of the field was particularly poor to average.

Joyce hand-picked the team, and look where he got them second season. Dead bottom. Can't sugar coat that. Greg Vanderjagt was far and away their best big, and Joyce refused to remove any of the deadwood to have him on the permanent roster. He made his bed and now has to sleep in it. Feel bad that Gold Coast supporters got treated to such a bad start.



Hmm interesting as he wanted Vanderjagt to play but due to contract restrictions of Pero, Melmeth & McGregor who are all done and over he was unable to play him due to the NBL's stupid point systems!! Justin Bowen was approved and waiting to come but it took claxton 8 games to approve it all (straight from watkins mouth)!! can you explain that?? He didnt want Joyce to succeed is the only reason!!!

[Unregistered]

Thanks Mrs Joyce...again

[Unregistered]

Hmm interesting as he wanted Vanderjagt to play but due to contract restrictions of Pero, Melmeth & McGregor who are all done and over he was unable to play him due to the NBL's stupid point systems!! Justin Bowen was approved and waiting to come but it took claxton 8 games to approve it all (straight from watkins mouth)!! can you explain that?? He didnt want Joyce to succeed is the only reason!!!

"Injury toll"- "NBL stoopid points system"- Wow. how silly we must have been to not realise these were the reasons Joyce crashed and burned the Blaze. (No pun intended) I must be especially silly because I still cant work out how these extraneous factors caused Joyce to turn away Adam Gibson when he offered his services (Cheap!) Brad Williamson and a host of other very good players.??? I'm also trying to grasp how these factors made him play someone who was clearly not NBL standard in the most vital of positions?? Surely it wouldnt have been because the player was his son and he wanted him as the Boomers PG??? As for the "Clacka conspiracy"...I must be really dense because I cant work out how a bloke who 'wanted to see him fail' would put the ink on an agreement which guaranteed Joyce a huge salary for 4 years, sight unseen and coming from his previous employ under a huge cloud??? Though nothing would surprise me with Clacka, especially when hes spending other peoples money, it looked more like a quid pro quo deal for when Joycie saved Clackas reputation after the Rollers. Silly basketball fans! What would we ever understand about the top level movers and shakers?!

[Back on track]

Spartans Trio, Sign with Blaze

The Arrow Caravans & Towbars Brisbane Spartans trio, Tyson Demos and towering centre Greg Vanderjagt have both re-signed with the Gold Coast Blaze alongside the explosive Chris Goudling.

Vanderjagt and Goulding were also recently named in the 2009 Australian Boomers squad.

Tuesday's announcements follow Monday's confirmation that another Boomers squad member and former Brisbane Spartans point guard Adam Gibson, will also head to the Coast this season.

“It’s great that we’ve been able to re-sign Tyson and Greg and it’s no understatement that Chris’s signing could well be the League recruiting coup of the year,” said Blaze Coach Joey Wright said from the United States.

“He’s probably the most talented one point rating in the League.

“He has outstanding offensive skills and will definitely challenge for court time in the one, two or three position,” he said.

Wright is equally pleased to have Demos and Vanderjagt remain on the Coast – the 213cm Vanderjagt looking forward to increased court time after a league ruling saw him sit out most of the 2008/09 season.

“Greg is an extremely skilled and mobile big man,” Wright said. “We’ll be looking for him to be a true centre focus for us and, after being sidelined last year, this season presents great opportunities for both him and the team.

“Tyson is another really talented young kid who already has the physical tools to stand out in the league.

“He also shows a great defensive presence and will certainly challenge the more experienced players for court time,” he said.

The Brisbane Spartans are currently sitting on top of the Eastern Conference SEABL ladder with a 15 – 1 record and are on a collision course with the undefeated Frankston Blues (16 – 0) on Saturday 20 June.

This blockbuster game will top off at 8pm at the Carina Basketball Stadium.

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Spartans Trio, Sign with Blaze

The Arrow Caravans & Towbars Brisbane Spartans trio, Tyson Demos and towering centre Greg Vanderjagt have both re-signed with the Gold Coast Blaze alongside the explosive Chris Goudling.

Vanderjagt and Goulding were also recently named in the 2009 Australian Boomers squad.

Tuesday's announcements follow Monday's confirmation that another Boomers squad member and former Brisbane Spartans point guard Adam Gibson, will also head to the Coast this season.

“It’s great that we’ve been able to re-sign Tyson and Greg and it’s no understatement that Chris’s signing could well be the League recruiting coup of the year,” said Blaze Coach Joey Wright said from the United States.

“He’s probably the most talented one point rating in the League.

“He has outstanding offensive skills and will definitely challenge for court time in the one, two or three position,” he said.

Wright is equally pleased to have Demos and Vanderjagt remain on the Coast – the 213cm Vanderjagt looking forward to increased court time after a league ruling saw him sit out most of the 2008/09 season.

“Greg is an extremely skilled and mobile big man,” Wright said. “We’ll be looking for him to be a true centre focus for us and, after being sidelined last year, this season presents great opportunities for both him and the team.

“Tyson is another really talented young kid who already has the physical tools to stand out in the league.

“He also shows a great defensive presence and will certainly challenge the more experienced players for court time,” he said.

The Brisbane Spartans are currently sitting on top of the Eastern Conference SEABL ladder with a 15 – 1 record and are on a collision course with the undefeated Frankston Blues (16 – 0) on Saturday 20 June.

This blockbuster game will top off at 8pm at the Carina Basketball Stadium.

Umm I don't understand? If there is no NBL this season have they signed on for the following one?

[Mr bEn]

There IS an NBL season.

[Unregistered]

There IS an NBL season.

What teams are in?

[Unregistered]

I guess you've been living under a rock this past week. :)
The league will consist of 8 teams with each playing the other four times (two home, two away). Perth, Cairns, Gold Coast, Melbourne, Adelaide, New Zealand, Wollongong and Townsville will round out the fixture. Season tip off is September 24.

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I guess you've been living under a rock this past week. :)
The league will consist of 8 teams with each playing the other four times (two home, two away). Perth, Cairns, Gold Coast, Melbourne, Adelaide, New Zealand, Wollongong and Townsville will round out the fixture. Season tip off is September 24.

Thanks...actually been away for work

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What teams are in?

Are ther any pre season games?

[St Marys]

Southern Districts Spartans are proud to announce that they will be hosting a pre-season game on behalf o fthe Gold Coast Blaze.


Monday 17th August 7pm


Gold Coast Blaze versus St Mary's

Entrance general Admission $10 adult Children $5

VIP seating available.

Box seating also available.

For further information call Big Joe on 0403 734 508 or Allan on 3398 2790.


A reminder that the Spartans will also be hosting the first ever SEABL finals game on Saturday 8th August at 7pm.

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Southern Districts Spartans are proud to announce that they will be hosting a pre-season game on behalf o fthe Gold Coast Blaze.


Monday 17th August 7pm


Gold Coast Blaze versus St Mary's

Entrance general Admission $10 adult Children $5

VIP seating available.

Box seating also available.

For further information call Big Joe on 0403 734 508 or Allan on 3398 2790.


A reminder that the Spartans will also be hosting the first ever SEABL finals game on Saturday 8th August at 7pm.
Good one. Will Mitch and Jordan be playing with St. Marys?

[BJ]

Can you guys let us know how much tickets will be? Curious on VIP/boxes as well .... further info wouldn't go astray!

[Spartans the host]

Can you guys let us know how much tickets will be? Curious on VIP/boxes as well .... further info wouldn't go astray!

4 seater VIP box $250
6 seater VIP Box $350

Reserved seating $12

General Admission Adults $10 children $5

Allan Ladewig
General Manager

Southern Districts Basketball Association

[Unregistered]

that is rubbish we gold coasters have to go to brisbane to see that game

that game should be on the coast tss is a better venue than carina

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that is rubbish we gold coasters have to go to brisbane to see that game

that game should be on the coast tss is a better venue than carina
Maybe call the Blaze office or call Big Joe and he might be able to arrange another game at TSS?? What's wrong with Carina anyhow? Good enough for SEABL and Bullets when they were around? Game should be at Logan or Maroochydore actually since it's their proteges who will be playing there next year.

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Maybe call the Blaze office or call Big Joe and he might be able to arrange another game at TSS?? What's wrong with Carina anyhow? Good enough for SEABL and Bullets when they were around? Game should be at Logan or Maroochydore actually since it's their proteges who will be playing there next year.

Seating is not the best for a good crowd turn out. But seriously does no one think these stadiums(Carina, Brisbane, Ipswich etc) over the years there should be some money from the goverment to upgrade these sites Carrara look the same it did when I played 24 years ago. The stadims are letting the sport down. Brisbane the benches for scoring are fulling apart and the seating very uncomfortable. We want to get away from dark and dreary to light and cheerfully.

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Seating is not the best for a good crowd turn out. But seriously does no one think these stadiums(Carina, Brisbane, Ipswich etc) over the years there should be some money from the goverment to upgrade these sites Carrara look the same it did when I played 24 years ago. The stadims are letting the sport down. Brisbane the benches for scoring are fulling apart and the seating very uncomfortable. We want to get away from dark and dreary to light and cheerfully.

Also all the stadiums including convention centre (Brisbane) shocking food their don't no about the blaze one, should look into logan cafe menu they sell the best food their great prices if you have great menu with great tasting food and the staff a great will draw in the crowds we eat there for dinner rather than cook or have other fast foods. Really great family enviroment.

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no big stadium sells great food its all fried and processed as well as over priced

boondall
$4.50 for a coke
$4.00 for a chocolate bar

movie cenimas get away with it so other venues feel the same way.

when we go to blaze games we have dinner in broadbeach and usaly only buy a drink at the game.

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Maybe call the Blaze office or call Big Joe and he might be able to arrange another game at TSS?? What's wrong with Carina anyhow? Good enough for SEABL and Bullets when they were around? Game should be at Logan or Maroochydore actually since it's their proteges who will be playing there next year.

whats wrong with carina well...

we have to drive there to see a gold coast team play.
seating below average compaired to tss.
no air con.
tss has better rims and a better floor.

oh yea before i forget

tss is on the gold coast

thats whats wrong with carina.....

[Blaze at Carina Monday]

Saint Mary’s squared their Australian tour at 1-1 last night with a 92-72 win against the AIS in Canberra. In a tight contest, the Gaels pulled away in the 2nd half to record the 20 point victory.



Next tour game is on Thursday against the Dandenong Rangers at the Dandenong Basketball Stadium. 5.30pm tipoff.



Some nice feedback from the game with the Wollongong Hawks – email below from Mili Simic at the Hawks. Please click on the link to view the photos from the game.



Regards

Chris

Remember starting time is 7pm at carina on Monday night when Blaze play St. Marys USA

[landy]

Saint Mary’s squared their Australian tour at 1-1 last night with a 92-72 win against the AIS in Canberra. In a tight contest, the Gaels pulled away in the 2nd half to record the 20 point victory.



Next tour game is on Thursday against the Dandenong Rangers at the Dandenong Basketball Stadium. 5.30pm tipoff.



Some nice feedback from the game with the Wollongong Hawks – email below from Mili Simic at the Hawks. Please click on the link to view the photos from the game.



Regards

Chris

Remember starting time is 7pm at carina on Monday night when Blaze play St. Marys USA
For the fans who can't make it to the game on Mon nite, we will be livestreaming it, also it will be available as video on Sun, go to www.courtlive.net and log in.

[Unregistered]

Ok Blaze fans, any reports on how this years team/attendance/overall organsiation is going? especially now we dont have BJ and SOJ around...

[Unregistered]

Ok Blaze fans, any reports on how this years team/attendance/overall organsiation is going? especially now we dont have BJ and SOJ around...

go to a game and find out for your self numbers could be better league is tighter the boys are going ok just need to win on the road.

[Flynn returns]

LIVING THE DREAM
An evening with Liam Flynn

The Southern Districts Basketball Association welcomes the basketball community to attend on Tuesday the 8th December a coaching forum headed by Liam Flynn at the Rowland Cowan Stadium in Carina.

Flynn who was a junior representative of the Spartans for many years elected to make coaching his pathway to the top and after doing the hard yards in the junior ranks has forged a career within basketball, currently an assistant coach with the Adelaide 36ers.

“When Liam called and offered to come back and do a coaching clinic for the Association I was over the moon.” offered Southern Districts General Manager, Allan Ladewig. “Liam always knew what he wanted to do and was willing to do what ever it took to get there. I remember his first number one team, which he took to an Australian Championship in under 14’s with an unknown player by the name of Reece Martin. Reece currently plays for Woollongong in the National Basketball League”.

Picked up by South Australia and offered a “State Director of Coaching” position Martin has done it all on the floor, recognised for being a players coach who works after everyone else has left.

“Returning to Queensland to play the Gold Coast Blaze on Wednesday night gave me the chance to put something back into the Spartans who I loved being part of” stated Flynn.

Southern Districts have elected to make this one off opportunity open to the greater basketball community. Flynn will do a short coaching session for those interested, where he will break down drills and plays, prior to making himself available for general questions from aspiring coaching staff and players.

“This is a great chance for young basketballer’s to hear what they must be willing to do to get to the top of the sport and we are grateful to Liam for giving up his most valuable time’ Charles Ellis. President, offered.

The session starts at 7pm sharp with Southern Districts asking those wanting to attend to contact the office on 3398 2790 so it can be correctly catered for.

ENDS www.sdspartans.basketball.net.au email sdbal@bigpond.net.au Phone 3398 2790

[Districts]

The coaching forum conducted by Adelaide 36er’s Defensive Coach, Liam Flynn, at Carina on Tuesday night was fantastic. The break downs he did for defensive foot work on the floor for both the players and coaching staff in attendance was amazing.

The offensive principles which he introduced I am sure will be implemented in the not to distant future also. He made things seem so simple.

The pity was that not one person from another association took advantage of the free offer. We need to ask ourselves in Queensland if we really want to get better when we fail to consider other options.

Liam is a great coach and deserves to be where he is at. Those who did attend will be better for it and we look forward to more education when he returns.

Thanks Liam.

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The coaching forum conducted by Adelaide 36er’s Defensive Coach, Liam Flynn, at Carina on Tuesday night was fantastic. The break downs he did for defensive foot work on the floor for both the players and coaching staff in attendance was amazing.

The offensive principles which he introduced I am sure will be implemented in the not to distant future also. He made things seem so simple.

The pity was that not one person from another association took advantage of the free offer. We need to ask ourselves in Queensland if we really want to get better when we fail to consider other options.

Liam is a great coach and deserves to be where he is at. Those who did attend will be better for it and we look forward to more education when he returns.

Thanks Liam.


Well done those at Districts for organising this type of event. unfortunatel I currently reside outside of Brissy so could not attend a mid week event. Keep up the good work and hopefully I'll be able to make the next one.

[Blaze support]

On Wednesday the 13th January Southern Districts Spartans will be offering tickets to the Gold Coast Blaze game against the Adelaide 36er's for $12 and adult and $7 a child. Game time is 7:30pm so it will not be hard to get to and you will be home early.

As the Spartans have a strong alliance with the Blaze through our players in the SEABL and with our own Liam Flynn as assistant coach of the 36er's we felt it is a great chance for our Association to say thank you to the Blaze for keeping basketball in the NBL in South East Queensland region.

We are asking all members to make the effort to attend.

To make arrangements for tickets all you need do is register your intent by making payment at the office or emailing me back by 22nd December. I would hope that we can get at least 300 Spartan supporters to go to the game. There will be no refunds once ordered. Tickets will be issued at the door on the night.

For those who want a memento we will do a one of t-shirt (Big Joe sizing's hahahah) which you can buy for $10. The sizes will be on first in first served.

Even if you are from another Association and do not like us still make the effort to support this great program and night. hahahha

Enquiries 0403 244 318 or email sdbal@bigpond.net.au

Allan Ladewig
General Manager

Southern Districts Basketball Association

[Unregistered]

Teys and Gleeson getting some clock...Noice!!!!!

[number55]

The pity was that not one person from another association took advantage of the free offer. We need to ask ourselves in Queensland if we really want to get better when we fail to consider other options.



Maybe they didn't know it was on. If I had have I know I would have strongly considered it.

[Unregistered]

Teys and Gleeson getting some clock...Noice!!!!!

I agree about time. Blaze development has been a joke if they are not good enough to play then do not pick them years of training and sitting on the bench helps no one

[Unregistered]

Worthington re-signing for huge monies and extras, great timing and then pulls out due to an aggravated injury. He hasn't trained for 3 weeks, how is it aggravated? Gibbo to play on with injured wrist. Harvey played all last season with hip problems, had double hip surgery in March. Wortho is a big disgusting, disappointment. Puts his post season contract in South America over his team making the finals. And this guy wants to be Captain? Get real.
Stephen Black should tell about playing through injuries. He had it very tough.

[Unregistered]

I agree about time. Blaze development has been a joke if they are not good enough to play then do not pick them years of training and sitting on the bench helps no one

On the contrary, it's important to LOOK like you really CARE!!!!!
Teys should move onto another club, not going to get a good go up there.
His only hope is the Bullets......

[Unregistered]

got to love the Gold Coast Blaze advert running tonight over and over, promoting the game on Sunday against the Wildcats. 4pm 13 March 2011 at the Gold Coast Convention Centre.

Only problem is that the game is actually in Perth.

[Unregistered]

On the contrary, it's important to LOOK like you really CARE!!!!!
Teys should move onto another club, not going to get a good go up there.
His only hope is the Bullets...... Yep I agree and he's better than Cadee

[Unregistered]

Yep I agree and he's better than Cadee

Not necessarily. Think it's largely subjective as to what role you're asking Cadee to play. Too often he is paired with Gibson in the backcourt, which essentially relegates him to standing in the corner ala Bruce Bowen (not his strength). If the Blaze were to go about putting the ball in Cadee's hands in the spread ball screen situations and have Gibson, being a much better shooter than Cadee, play off of that, they'd probably get better results. But in saying that, I can understand why they're hestitant to do so with Jason being a first year NBL player.