Logan Thunder in WNBL 2008/09

[Urban Legend]

Short 3 line paragraph at the end of the NBL report in the Courier Mail today confirmed that Logan have been admitted to the WNBL for 2008/09.

It said an announcement will be made today.

[Urban Legend]

This is the Media Release from the Logan Basketball website. Congrats to them and it will be good for all women's basketball in SEQ to have a National presence again.

MEDIA RELEASE

SEQ BACK IN WOMEN'S NATIONAL BASKETBALL LEAGUE
20 September 2007

South East Queensland is set to make a return to the Australian Defence Force National Women's basketball league after a break of 10 years.

Brisbane-based basketball association Logan Thunder has won the new license and subject to certain sponsorship assurances and achieving certain the financial milestones required by Basketball Australia they will be suiting up to play in September 2008.

Basketball Australia Chief Executive, Scott Derwin, said the new franchise would play a key part in making the Australian Defence Force WNBL a truly national championship.

“As Australia's third largest city and the country's fastest growing region it was essential that Brisbane and South East Queensland were once again represented in the national competition,” Mr Derwin said.

“We have been in talks with Logan Basketball for the past 18 months and have been impressed with their enthusiasm and professional efforts to get a team up and running,” he said.

“At this point we have granted them a conditional license only and their entry into the competition will be dependent on them reaching certain financial milestones.

“We understand it has been difficult for them to sign sponsors when they didn't even have a license to play,” he said.

“Now they have an official letter to say they are in the competition if sponsorship backing is forthcoming.”

Former National basketball League star and Australian Boomer, Mark Dalton, has been the prime mover and shaker behind the bid.

Dalton, a 432 game NBL veteran, with 92 games for the National Team, has been appointed general manager of the team to be known as Logan Thunder.
“ It has been a goal of mine for the past seven years to see a new women's team playing out of Brisbane,” Dalton said.

“I have been involved with junior basketball here in Brisbane for a number of years and the female talent that is coming through is truly exciting,” he said.

“Unfortunately since 1998 they have had to leave town to play on a WNBL team,” he said.

“We are the world champions in women's basketball, Lauren Jackson is the best player in the world and basketball is booming, yet one of the largest cities in the country wasn't represented in the national competition.”

The new Logan Thunder side will play their inaugural season at the Insport Stadium, Cornubia in Brisbane's south before moving to a new $17million Logan Metro Indoor Sports Centre at Browns Plains for the start of the 2009 season.

Mayor of Logan, Graham Able, said the new national team was one of the biggest sporting announcements ever to be made in the city.

“We have backed the Thunder consortium in their bid from day one and the new Metro Stadium's design had already been upgraded to handle Thunder's expected entry into the WNBL,” Cr Able said.

“It's wonderful for the city of Logan to have a national sporting team identity and I am sure we will draw capacity crowds to the Metro Centre to support them in 2009,” he said.

Logan Thunder WNBL is a not for profit community based organisation.

A naming rights sponsor, coaches, team logo and colours will be unveiled in the near future.

ENDS

[Mugsy]

Great to see another National league team in the sunshine state.

[Colonel Klink]

Absolutely. Big ups to Logan for stepping up to the WNBL, sure they'll do everyone in south queensland proud

[Unregistered]

Who would they be lookign to sign?? Any players? Thoughts?

[Unregistered]

heard through someone that bec schatz is moving back to brisbane next year, finishing with the AIS. she would be a good addition to the side

[Mr bEn]

The Thunder are announcing their naming rights sponsor at JPC 4pm this Thursday.

Seems Tang is keeping this train moving in the right direction.

Looking forward to seeing who they sign, and also looking forward to supporting a local team in the WNBL again.

[Mr bEn]

This was in today's Logan local ....

OCTOBER 24: The major naming rights sponsor behind Logan Thunder's WNBL campaign will be formally announced tomorrow.

It is expected that Crestmead's BDS. Pty Ltd will be named in a lucrative deal worth more than $100,000 a year over five years.

The club's logo and colours will also be unveiled at a press conference at John Paul College at 4pm.
The sponsorship underwrites Thunder's entry into the 2008-09 Women's National Basketball League from 2008, which was subject to sponsorship and financial targets imposed by Basketball Australia.
Thunder will play out of Insports Cornbuia Park in its inaugural season before moving to the new $18million complex being built at Browns Plains for the start of the 2009 season.

Logan basketball identity Mark Dalton, a 432-game NBL veteran, was appointed general manager after heading the bid.

``It has been a goal of mine for the past seven years to see a new women's team playing out of Brisbane,'' Dalton said.

``Unfortunately, since 1998, they have had to leave town to play on a WNBL team. ``We are the world champions in women's basketball, Lauren Jackson is the best player in the world and basketball is booming, yet one of the largest cities in the country wasn't represented in the national competition.

I would love to hear speculation on who Logan may target for their roster. I had a discussion with a mate last week, and we struggled to come up with a solitary name who isn't already playing elsewhere.

[Unregistered]

is richard orlick coaching the WNBL team??? you would think that would be the logical choice...if so, who would be coaching the mens ABA team........

shona burrell should get a run with the WNBL team

This was in today's Logan local ....

OCTOBER 24: The major naming rights sponsor behind Logan Thunder's WNBL campaign will be formally announced tomorrow.

It is expected that Crestmead's BDS. Pty Ltd will be named in a lucrative deal worth more than $100,000 a year over five years.

The club's logo and colours will also be unveiled at a press conference at John Paul College at 4pm.
The sponsorship underwrites Thunder's entry into the 2008-09 Women's National Basketball League from 2008, which was subject to sponsorship and financial targets imposed by Basketball Australia.
Thunder will play out of Insports Cornbuia Park in its inaugural season before moving to the new $18million complex being built at Browns Plains for the start of the 2009 season.

Logan basketball identity Mark Dalton, a 432-game NBL veteran, was appointed general manager after heading the bid.

``It has been a goal of mine for the past seven years to see a new women's team playing out of Brisbane,'' Dalton said.

``Unfortunately, since 1998, they have had to leave town to play on a WNBL team. ``We are the world champions in women's basketball, Lauren Jackson is the best player in the world and basketball is booming, yet one of the largest cities in the country wasn't represented in the national competition.

I would love to hear speculation on who Logan may target for their roster. I had a discussion with a mate last week, and we struggled to come up with a solitary name who isn't already playing elsewhere.

[Unregistered]

I expect Megan Michael would be being involved somewhere there, given her success in the recent QABL season. On another board punters were tipping Mariana Tolo as another likely Logan player.

Locally Shona Burrell hasn't been adverse to wearing the navy blue in recent games, also, having Richard as coach might encourage recent JPC grads to have a crack. Any word on how the team will be sourced?

[Mugsy]

Logan are in the prime position of attracting the type of player that they want rather than they need.

I would think that players all over the country would be interested in alternative to where they, particularly because they are new and they are from Queensland.

I would think that the top players in the QABL would be looked at while also speaking with the best of the best across the country, particularly if the their careers orginated in Brisbane or the South East.

At the end of the day every minute of every game is up for grabs, who wouldn't interested ?

[Mr bEn]

Logan Thunder has landed a naming rights sponsor in a huge boost to the teams chancing of stepping out on the court for the 2008/09 Australian Defence Force WNBL Championship season.

The Thunder has to meet financial milestones set by Basketball Australia, and this coup will almost certainly ensure Logan Thunder plays in the WNBL competition for the 2008/09 season.

BDS, manufacturers of high quality shopfittings, display and shelving systems, is the new naming rights sponsor. BDS is based in Logan with branches in Perth, Sydney, Melbourne and Adelaide. BDS has agreed to terms for two years plus a further three years of options. The six figure per year deal over five years will almost certainly become one of the largest women’s team sponsorships in Australia. The team will be called “BDS Logan Thunder”

BDS Logan Thunder General Manager Mark Dalton was ecstatic with the news.

“We are very happy to be making this announcement close to 12 months out from the season start,” he said.

The team announced the sponsorship at John Paul College this week and presented BDS owner David Kemp with a sample BDS Logan Thunder WNBL uniform.

For more information contact Mark Dalton, General Manager BDS Logan Thunder – 0400 405 656

[Unregistered]

Given Qlds recent success in National competitions theres a fair few prospects coming through for the future. Though if you play your junior basketball thru to seniors all in Brisbane you may not want to play locally but spread your wings elsewhere for a change of scenery.

[Unregistered]

Recent article published in local Logan paper says there has been around 150 players interested in joining the new Thunder WNBL team. Awesome if coaching staff have that many girls to choose from. All good.

[Mr bEn]

Logan Thunder has opted for top level experience in naming the coach of their first Women's National Basketball League team.

Former Brisbane Bullets NBL coach, Richard Orlick, has been handed the job to lead the BDS Thunder into the 2008 competition.


Orlick already has ties with the Logan Thunder organisation having coached their ABA men's team last year.


He is also heavily involved with basketball in the Logan City area as the head coach at the district's biggest school, John Paul College.


Only last week he took the open JPC girls team to the Australian All Schools Championship title.


Orlick said he was honoured to lead the new team and was already counting down the days to their first competition game in September next year.


“Everyone at Logan has done a great job to get this side up and I don’t think I could be happier leading a team that is truly representative of the community,” Orlick said.


“Next year is going to be exciting, not only is Logan going to have a team to cheer on, it will also represent the first time South East Queensland has had a team in the WNBL since 1998.


Backing up Orlick as the assistant coach will be current Thunder ABA female coach David Mitchell.


The first job for Orlick and Mitchell will be to fill their roster, which they’ve said will be a mixture of local talent and existing WNBL players.


“If you look at the Gold Coast Blaze NBL consortium and the team they’ve picked for their first season, they locked in a combination of local players with a few experienced players they’ve bought,” Orlick said.


“We’ll be looking for the same sort of squad, we’ve not only got lots of good players in the club, but also some of the best talent in Australia right here in South East Queensland.


“In the past some of them have unfortunately been forced overseas to pursue a career, but now they’ll have the chance to play for us in the best competition in Australia,” he said.

[Mr bEn]

BDS Logan Thunder has described their first signing in local Cassie Smith as the perfect choice for the new WNBL team.

The young guard from Redlands became the Thunder’s first signing after agreeing to terms for two years.

“It hasn’t sunk in yet, but I am excited about the opportunity,” the 18 year old said.

“I’ll have a good pre-season with U20 Nationals next month and then competing for Southern Districts Spartans in SEABL (South East Australian Basketball League) during winter.”

BDS Logan Thunder General Manager, Mark Dalton, said Cassie’s signature was a high priority. “We couldn’t ask for a better person, she’s a local player with a good attitude and has outstanding leadership qualities. Cassie typifies the kind of player we want at this club.”

Thunder Head Coach, Richard Orlick, praised Cassie's professionalism and said her addition was invaluable.

“Cassie is one of the best junior players in Queensland and I’ve been privileged to see her progress over the past four to five years. I know how much talent she has and that’s why I wanted her with the club as a long term prospect.”

Cassie heads to Albury in February to compete in the U20 Australian Championships as a leading player in the Queensland Women’s team, hoping to bring home gold for the state.

Despite Richard’s experienced coaching abilities, Cassie need not look any further than her sister for advice on anything WNBL. Holly, is currently playing in her debut season for the Townsville Fire, and Cassie hopes her knowledge will help her progression into the big league.

Despite the excitement of joining the club, she admits she has a long way to go.

“I’m only 18 and I’m sure the club will be signing some experienced players so we can be competitive in our first season.” she said.

“I’m a long-term player and I’m looking to one day lead this club, but my aim is to get some game time next season.

“Learning the pace and the tactical side of the WNBL will be my biggest challenge, but I’ve always stepped up in my life and I’m sure I can do it again.”

Richard agrees, and added Cassie’s versatility is one of her best assets.

“Cassie grew up playing as a forward and has developed into a shooting guard.”

When Cassie’s not on court, she’s busy preparing for her second year at QUT studying Human Movement and Podiatry.

For now though, the young guard will have to wait until October before she can lace up the boots and storm on the court for Logan Thunder.

[Unregistered]

congrats to Cassie. Such a hard worker on the court.
Will be interesting to see who else's name come up

[Unregistered]

Would kirby dalgleish be a signing?

[Unregistered]

Maybe Cassies sister Hollie????

[Mr bEn]

BDS Logan Thunder has signed QLD Australian Basketball League MVP Megan Michael.
A current member of the Logan Thunder QABL team, Megan joins Cassie Smith as the second signing in the Australian Defence Force WNBL side.

Michael signed a one-year-contract with the club on Sunday.

The 26-year-old said she was happy to be a part of the BDS Thunder’s first season in the ADF WNBL and believes it will be a memorable year.

“It’s going to be different, it’s not like the QABL, we’re talking of the best players in Australia playing in the WNBL,” Megan said.

“The season doesn’t start for a long time, but I’m already on the edge of my seat looking forward to the start of the season.”

Megan said it’s about adjusting and fitting into a team that can be competitive.

“It’s our first year and hopefully we’ll get some experienced players on our roster so we can win some games in our first season,” she said.

“For me it’s about adjusting, I’m 26 and I’m in the prime of my career, so hopefully if I get some game time, my speed and vision around the court can help the club win some games.

“I hope to have another strong QABL season with the club and stay fit and ready for when I’m needed on the court.”

BDS Thunder head coach Richard Orlick praised Megan’s talent and said she will bring a winning attitude to the club.

“It seems whichever team Megan plays for, it’s a winning team. All the other girls seem to play better and ultimately win games,” Orlick said.

“Megan has an unselfish attitude on the court, she likes to share the ball around so she’ll be a great asset for us.

“I think Megan is at the top of her game, she’s never had the opportunity to get extra training and one-on-one coaching and the chance to step up to the next level. We’re glad she can do that at this club,” he said.

Megan’s natural basketball ability didn’t come out of nowhere. She started playing basketball when she was eight-years-old, following in the footsteps of her mother Alice.

Alice, a good basketball player in her time, represented Papua New Guinea at the South Pacific Games in the seventies.

But Megan’s love of basketball carries through the lines of how her parents first met.

“Mum and my dad Peter met when they were playing basketball at Port Moresby,” Megan said.

“Dad went to PNG working as an engineer, but he met mum at a local basketball competition.

“Mum was part of the A-Grade team, and dad was in a C or D-Grade competition.

“Dad saw mum playing and then he would start going to her games and watch her play and that’s how they met.”

At 16, Megan had to make a choice between either playing basketball or her other favourite sport; water polo. Megan admits while her parents wouldn’t mind what sport she chose, deep down they were hoping it would be basketball.

Megan’s passion for basketball is obviously in her blood, but over the years her older brother, Mal, has dominated the limelight winning AFL premierships with the Brisbane Lions.

Not only is her brother a successful football star, her boyfriend Thalo Green had NBL stints with the Melbourne Tigers and Sydney Kings, where he played a total of 42 games.

Thalo also plays QABL for Logan and was signed with Megan on a joint contract with the club last year. Along with Megan’s latest signing with the ADF WNBL team, the pair also signed a three-year QABL contract which will see both at the club until at least the end of the 2010 QABL season.

Megan’s hope is her latest achievement will bring a lot of hope to young local PNG girls, to follow their dreams.

[Unregistered]

Rebecca Schatz has returned to brisbane. Surely she would be a possible signing?

[JB]

Holly Smith (if she wants to leave Townsville) and Bec Shatz would both be great signings for the club. Both were developed as 'locals' and have the talent to at least come off the bench and be serviceable.

I think the main obstacle for Logan will be to get some decent bigs, which are a difficult comoodity to come by, at least locally. Bianca Abbott would've been a great start, but she has come on with Townie, and I doubt they would let her go.

[Mr bEn]

Rachel Warren would be a great signing. She's in her senior year in the US and is doing quite well. = skilled big.

[Unregistered]

is it true that new logan signing cassie smith requires a knee reconstruction?

[Unregistered]

Yes cassie will be having a knee reconstruction. Fell during the first SEABL game

[Unregistered]

It's all gone quiet. Any updates on the WNBL team?

[Unregistered]

There has been no news about Logan on the wnbl site. have there been any major signings for the club. what is the team looking like

[Mr bEn]

Thunder have now signed Michaela Dombkins from the Sydney Flames.

Averaged 8pts and 4rebs off the bench last season. Should prove to be a decent signing.

[Unregistered]

Media release on Logan and Rocky. What is it with Rocky creating ties with Logan and the Bullets. No offence here, but what about the local clubs? It's good for Central QLD.

http://www.logan.basketball.net.au/_uploads/res/91_41965.doc

[Mr bEn]

Logan have announced a huge signing today, with Kristen Veal inking for 3 seasons.

One of the best points going around, and a huge huge boost for the fledgling franchise.

[Mr bEn]

In light of her hot start to the QABL season, Bec Haynes has now been inked by Logan's WNBL side to a one-year contract.

[Mr bEn]

Local Sarah Graham has signed on for one season with the Thunder.

Not sure if she would get regular playing time, but at the very least, I appreciate that the team has seemingly gone out of their way to get local talent on board.

Am told three more signings will be announced in the next fortnight, no idea who they are at this stage.

[Unregistered]

Will Shona Burrell be one?

[Mr bEn]

Bianca Abbott and Holly Smith have both been announced as signings by the Logan franchise.

Two decent bigs, who further add to the team's 'local' quotient.

[Unregistered]

3rd person - odette andrews

[Unregistered]

I am sure i am not the only one thinking it but i might be the first one to put it actually in writing that i am concerned with the direction being taken by the Logan group with the WNBL at the moment. Now before people jump all over me for being critical i will say up front that i dont have anything to do with the inner working or decisions made and am simply making statements as an outside observer.

I would be curious to know what philosophy or expectations the team is taking into their first season. If their desire is to give local girls an opportunity and not be too concerned about results then i applaud the direction they are heading by giving Queensland girls a good pathway beyond ABA. If they are thinking that they are going to be any sort of chance to push for the finals in their first year though i hope they are getting ready to announce some real marquee signings because the group they have put together at the moment might struggle against good ABA groups.

Of the group that they have announced as signings thus far i would consider only Veal, Dombkins and Abbott (at a pinch) as players of WNBL quality who will actually make an impact. I hope they are planning on using some money to get good imports, particularly in the bigs department (on a side note, Davis playing for them in the ABA is not good enough for what they need).

It has been far too long since the South East corner has had a WNBL team and i just hope that their chance isnt stuffed up by bad choices made in the first season. As we all know basketball is struggling full stop at the moment as is seen by the demise of the Bullets and the Kings in the NBL and i would hate to see this pathway taken away for our young players to learn as Development Players.

Also whilst i am on my rant i must question Logan's choice as Richard Orlick as their innaugral coach. I have nothing against Richard but i am sure that his appointment and lack or reputation in coaching the women's game has been a big factor in them missing out on a number of the players they have gone after. They seem to have lost just about every recruitment battle they have been locked in at the moment with the exception of Veal and Dombkins. To go along with the appointment of Richard is the appointment of Dave Mitchell as assistant? I know most up and coming talents would not be too excited about coming to learn from this coaching line-up.

Alright, i am ready for the bullets to start coming flying back at me. Am i alone in these thoughts or do others share the same fears?

[Unregistered]

If you are not part of the inner workings 'how do you know they have lost just about all the recruitement battles they have gone after' is this public knowledge somewhere?

[Unregistered]

If you are not part of the inner workings 'how do you know they have lost just about all the recruitement battles they have gone after' is this public knowledge somewhere?

From speaking with some people involved or around Logan im pretty sure they went after Tolo (Canberra), Flanagan (Townsville), Schatz (Townsville) and Kelly Wilson (yet to be confirmed but expected to be Bendigo).

[Unregistered]

Those players are hardly big name signings maybe Kelly Wilson who has proven herself, but Schatz and Tolo are hardly big names (yet). And thats Logans own fault for so called people having confidentiality blabbing there big mouths, cant trust anyone.

[Unregistered]

Quite a few of the players selected are already playing against WNBL players in SEABL.
How about giving them a go instead of being negative before they've even taken to the court.

[Unregistered]

my question is - how well do those players already signed match up against current WNBL players????

[Unregistered]

I think the person who wrote the speel about Logan has been very insightful and I tend to agree with them.

Unfortunately at this point in time the squad that they have put together probably wouldnt beat Townsville for the ABA Championship (OK, maybe that is a bit of stretch and they probably would) but the point is that they have not put a great time on the floor at the moment.

Agree also with your points about Orlick and Mitchell..... Hopefully they find some big signings and soon.

[Unregistered]

must also agree with above posts. alot of development talent not much experience or size looks like a run and gun group ,will take a few years. schatz was a huge loss she will play big minutes is a very talented versitile player.

[Unregistered]

to the person that said brit davis is'nt up to it,did you check out her 22 and 16 performance against towny a few weeks back?she's been tearing up the league.logan have picked a fair bit of youth in there for good reason,they are building a team!they've announced some descent signings for their first year,i think they'll have some struggles but they're gonna get some wins.they get a new stadium after this season i'm pretty sure and more and more people will want to be involved.
and why rag out orlick about how he'll go coaching women?i'm pretty sure he's got it sorted he's been coaching girls for ages.
some people on here sound a bit upset that that they can't get a gig in the wnbl,logan is achieving something pretty special i think,out of all the organisations how many are trying for a wnbl license???

[Unregistered]

The fame of Lauren Jackson, Penny Taylor and still the ABC axe live coverage of the upcoming wnbl competition. Channel surfing came across Foxtels sports channels - ANZ netball league. The best thing to happen in womens netball.....I cant quite put my finger on it but I think the viewers of women sport would far rather see a fast paced game of netball with majority of players long limbed, lean, athletic machines some almost acrobatically flying through the air, great aerial displays of athleticism, where as the womens game of basketball compared to the mens game and Im sure alot of people would agree looks like slow motion and unless you've been into basketball your whole life, the game of netball is far more exciting to watch and more crowd pleasing, it has far more wow factor and draws the oos and ahs. Just ones opinion. But maybe if the Opals win the Olympics more money and good media coverage will come womens basketballs way.

[Unregistered]

Netball..Nice joke to end the day.

Does anyone even know what they are doing out there?

[Unregistered]

must also agree with above posts. alot of development talent not much experience or size looks like a run and gun group ,will take a few years. schatz was a huge loss she will play big minutes is a very talented versitile player.

Fair question I reckon about why Logan have lost a number of name players listed for recruitment. Particularly a great young player like Rebecca Schatz that was a local girl playing under Orlick at JPC and living in Logan with her close knit family before going to the AIS. What a huge loss!

The top colleges in America were breaking down Schatzy's door when she was only 15 / 16 yoa. She even made the Australian U/19 team as a 16 year old! An awesome talent gone begging. So one can only wonder? Must have been an amazing offer from Townsville! Whats the go? Any one in the know?

[Mugsy]

You don't always get what you want.

[Mr bEn]

SIX months after BDS Logan Thunder signed their first Women’s National Basketball League (WNBL) player, Cassie Smith, older sister Holly has become the latest player to join the fledgling club.

After a tough debut WNBL season with the Townsville Fire, Smith made the decision to head south to link up with Cassie, on a one year contract.

The 187cm forward/centre is hopeful she can establish herself as a regular starter, but said it was the chance to be closer to family and work that influenced her decision to join the Thunder.

“I wanted to be at Logan so I can play in front of my friends and family that have been there and supported me throughout my life,” the Southern Districts Spartans junior said.

“I work with Branches Lifestyle Support, which helps kids with disabilities. It’s close to my heart and the kids get a chance to come to some of the games with me and have a lot of fun,” she said.

The Thunder is confident Smith can produce the form she has shown this year with the Spartans in the South East Australian Basketball League (SEABL).

Playing an average 26.5 minutes per match, Smith is shooting at a high 60 per cent from the field while averaging 14 points and almost six rebounds a game.

But the rare sight of seeing two sisters competing for the one WNBL team has Smith excited about the upcoming season.

That time might not come until a few weeks into the Thunder’s inaugural WNBL season as Cassie continues her fight back from a knee reconstruction. During the first game of the 2008 SEABL season, Cassie fell awkwardly while attempting a “layup” on a fast break.

While Cassie is hopeful of a return in time for the start of the WNBL season in October, the 18-year-old admits it could have been a tougher road to overcome if it wasn’t for the support of her older sister.

“It’s been hard, but it’s coming along well and I started running again last week,” she said.

“There have been a couple of dark weeks during my recovery, but Holly’s always been the first person I see when I look over my shoulder for support.”

When the news first hit the Smith sisters would be uniting at the Thunder for the 2008/09 WNBL season, no one was happier than proud parents, Jo and Gary Smith.

“Since I was born mum and dad brought me to their basketball games,” Smith said.

“I was always on the bench with them until they went on the court. Then I was passed down the bench until they came back on, so I guess basketball was bred into me.”

Thunder coach, Richard Orlick said he expects Smith to be a strong back up player coming off the bench.

“Holly and Cassie are like chalk and cheese when it comes to basketball. Holly’s a solid player who is tough close to the basket and a solid rebounder and Cassie is smaller and shoots predominately from the perimeter at a high percentage.

“Holly’s been fantastic in the SEABL this year and she’ll be pushing for a starting spot in this team if she can bring her best game to the court every week,” he said.

Thunder assistant coach, David Mitchell agreed with Orlick and praised Smith’s development as a basketball player.

“Holly’s got a lot of talent and has grown quickly into a solid centre in the SEABL,” Mitchell said.

“I have heard a lot of good things about her from people I know around SEABL. She inspires her team mates around her, which we will need once she starts training with us.

“It’s good she’s had that experience with Townsville in the WNBL last year. Any experience is great and she’ll be able to pass that on to the younger players including her sister,” he said.

[Unregistered]

So lets have a look at the team thus far.... and a very very quick overview of the players thus far.

Cassie Smith - Good U20 player and SEABL Player coming off an injury. Not quite ready to make a difference at the WNBL level.
Bianca Abbott - 2nd season in the WNBL. Still not quite at a starters spot.
Kristen Veal - Great pick up... Will need to play a lot of minutes and score a lot of points for Logan to be close to any team
Holly Smith - Very little minutes last year. Decent player in SEABL. Not too sure about her worth in an WNBL team
Bec Haynes - decent year in the ABA but will she be able to step up and win games in WNBL. Answer: Not at this stage
Sarah Graham - Great kid - not really played WNBL as of yet. Decent SEABL Player but once again will struggle with the step up to WNBL. Is a little suspect as a defender.
Mikaela Dombkins - Is going to look good playing! Need her to put up plenty of points for them to be a force. Is she up for it?


Richard Orlick - Never coached women before, has got NBL experience and plenty of QA
BL experience however
David Mitchell - Who?

Gaps from what I can see. No prelific scorers, no height. Great bunch of girls with plenty of heart and plenty of queenslanders which is great

[Mr bEn]

I think it's great Logan have gone out of their way to show their support for local talent. Despite the fact that they won't be tipped to win too many (something I'm sure the franchise wouldn't disagree with), I'll go along and support them when I can.

Would like to have seen Schatz on board, given she too is a local, and at one point was the great hope of women's basketball in QLD. Thought Shona Burrell may have had a chance as well. Am keen to see if an import will be thrown in the mix as well. Out of curiosity, is the WNBL restricted to one import per team?

Best of luck to the Thunder anyways. I'm sure if we give them enough support on and off the court, other players will notice and start to come across in time.

[Unregistered]

I think Megan Michaels has been forgotten off the list of local talent to this team.
Also Brittany Davis at the Import spot.

Not usre on the amount of ristricted players, I'd say it would be the same as every other league, 2, but with Australian Womans basketball, especially the WNBL, usualy you don't need the second restricted player.

[Mr bEn]

ODETTE Andrew hasn’t finished high school and doesn’t own a driver’s licence.

Yet the 18-year-old is ready to compete on the biggest stage of women’s basketball in Australia.

The 178cm forward/guard recently became the seventh Queensland recruit and the youngest player to sign with Women’s National Basketball League (WNBL) club, BDS Logan Thunder after putting pen to paper on a one-year contract.

While sitting in a Chinese cafe at a busy Sunnybank shopping centre, Andrew seems like your normal teenage girl, still adjusting to the media attention.

But give her a jersey and throw her on a court, and Andrew’s ability speaks louder than words. Andrew is under no illusion she wants to be the best in the league and it starts with making the most of her opportunity with the Thunder.

Seen as one of the players of the future for the Thunder, Andrew brings to the club youth, versatility and a keenness to learn.

A hard-working player, with her two strengths being defence and her three-point shooting, the Brisbane State High School student was used mostly off the bench in a number of positions for the Southern District Spartans in her South East Australia Basketball League (SEABL) debut season this year.

She had promising figures of seven points and three rebounds a game, with limited match time.

The under-20 Queensland player has been a reliable target for the Spartans.
But with only one season of SEABL and one season with Brisbane in the Queensland Australian Basketball in 2007 under her belt, the Thunder will be aiming to give Andrew a taste of WNBL action in her first season to see how she handles the step up, and the chance to train alongside the club’s experienced players. The former under-18 Queensland captain knows the WNBL is another step up from the SEABL, but is excited about the opportunity and is hoping to flourish under the guidance of Thunder coach, Richard Orlick.

“This is a great opportunity, I was a bit surprised when I got the call, but more excited,” she said.

“The WNBL is another step up and a big one. I’ve had some great coaches during my career, but I’m looking forward to being mentored by Richard and training with the likes of Kristen (Veal) who has been in the game for a long time.

“I’ve played in a few games against teams Richard has coached and they’re always strong and well drilled.”

When training commences in August, Andrew will join her Spartans team mates, Holly and Cassie Smith in the squad and said the transition will be a lot easier thanks to them.

Orlick said Andrew was seen as a key to the Thunder’s future and believes with some experienced players around her, she can develop into a strong WNBL player.

“She’s another local product and has represented the state many times, which I’m very pleased about,” he said.

“She’s the baby of the group so-to-speak and hopefully she can learn off the likes of Mikaela (Dombkins) who plays the two/three spot like her.

“It’s not a gamble signing Odette as there’s potential there and the club holds her in high regard. We hope to give her some game time in the WNBL and see how she handles it.

“She’s the sort of player we wish to develop as a long-term prospect.”

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when will the full squad be named? interested to see who they fill the final spots with.

[Mr bEn]

SHE’S big, strong, aggressive and while opposing Women National Basketball League (WNBL) teams will be saying “Brittany who?” BDS Logan Thunder believes it won’t be long until clubs will start to fear their latest signing, Brittany Davis.

The Thunder’s highly anticipated unveiling of their sole import will be in the club’s season opener against Perth Lynx on October 4 at Cornubia’s Insports.

The 188cm towering centre arrived in March from her hometown, Gainesville, Florida in the United States with high expectations and a possible shot at a WNBL contact.

But before the 24-year-old could dream of playing in the country’s premier women’s basketball league, Davis had to prove she was ready by competing with the Vergola Logan Thunder in the Queensland Australia Basketball League (QABL).

“I talked to Mark (Dalton) about the WNBL and knew it was the bigger picture in the back of the mind,” she said.

“But my initial goal was to enjoy my basketball, get to know the people in the program and help the Thunder QABL women’s team win matches.”

While the QABL women couldn’t pass the first round of the play-offs after going down to South West Metro Pirates in the semi finals, 65-53 over the weekend, Davis’ form throughout the season has warranted a WNBL contract.

Davis ended the QABL regular season with statistics of 23 points, three assists and 15 rebounds a game. She was the league’s top rebounder with 269 and was the third most prolific scorer with 430 points, behind Mackay Meteorettes’, Kelly Wilson (502 points) and Toowoomba Mountaineers’ American import, Rhonda Price (449 points).

Shooting at an almost league-high 51 per cent from the field throughout the season, Davis also picked up two player of the week awards and was the Thunder’s most dominant player.

But it only took four rounds into the QABL for the Thunder to realise Davis was ready to make the step up to the WNBL.

“After four weeks, we sat Brittany down in my house and we told her we wanted her to sign,” WNBL Thunder coach, Richard Orlick said.

“We brought her here to see if she was fit and healthy, and she has done everything we have asked from her.

“With imports it’s always an uncertainty how good they’ll play over here, but we believe we have a good one in Brittany.

“She has had an outstanding QABL season. She’s strong and powerful around the basket and has a good passing game for a tall.”

While she might start the WNBL as an unknown to most Australian basketball fans, Davis feels some pressure to perform.

“There’s a little bit of pressure seeing I’m from America, but I need to do what my coaches and players want me to do,” she said.

“Whether that’s putting the numbers on the board or playing a more defensive game, that’s all I can control and that’s what I’ll be aiming to do.”

A member of the Holland Park Church of Christ, Davis expects to see her fellow young church members to be cheering her on from the sidelines when the WNBL season tips off.

Brothers Carson and Cambridge Shepherd, Harrison and Thomas Krelle and Jayden Leijen are just a handful of Davis’ biggest fans and the Thunder recruit said the transition to Australia has been made smoother thanks to the church’s support.

“The church has helped a lot with my move over here,” she said.

“Being away from my big family, the church is like my home away from home and when the season starts, I expect to have my own little fan club in the stands.”

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Thoughts on the Brittany Davis signing?

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solid strong girl will compete but remember wnbl is an extremely tough comp and she isn't really tall enough to play big, hope they gel and the coach can develop them as a group better than he did the qabl mens team.

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any thoughts on how you think the team will go at the preseason tournament this weekend?

who is playing?

[BJ]

Thoughts on the Brittany Davis signing?

Thoughts on Shona Burrell non-signing?

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Thoughts on Shona Burrell non-signing?

Two names Kirsten Veale and Sarah Graham

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Graham is a good player, but going on games they played in SEABL this year she wasn't as good as Burrell.

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Graham is a good player, but going on games they played in SEABL this year she wasn't as good as Burrell.

Sarah is a pocket dynamo, work horse, die hard machine who will give her all for Logan and Orlick. Im sure

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neither girl blessed with great speed or hieght but sarah is a warrior and younger, the jpc connection is also reinforced, she will not let anyone down.

[BJ]

Sarah has continued to improve, but her small stature may limit her. I would've went with Shona, who has the edge in most areas.

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Sarah has continued to improve, but her small stature may limit her. I would've went with Shona, who has the edge in most areas.

From what I could see from the live stats at the pre-season games over the weekend Sarah has been a real asset to the Logan Thunder WNBL team... Sarah might not have much height but I think she will fill the spot just fine.
Nice to see that they are giving little Chloe Coughlan a run in the pre-season games...she has a lot of talent and the experience will help her heaps... I believe she is in the development squad for the WNBL... does anyone know who else is in?

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Rumour is that Shona was being heavily recruited for Logan QABL for 2008, but was told she didn't have to play QABL for Logan to be considered and playing SEABL may benefit her. This from WNBL sources. She stayed with Spartens. How tough would she have made Logan's QABL - seeing they signed Michael, Davis and Haynes after stellar QABL performances? I wonder how many sources saw any of Spartens SEABL games. Lots of mentions of JPC's involvement in stuff - I think Shona had something to do with JPC, but I could be wrong. Shona is tough. Lets see if Sarah Graham can guard some of the WNBL guards, or will they post her up every time. Do some people's mums post here? There seems to be a lot of mum/dad comments

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I think Shona not being signed by Logan is a big mistake , but i thought the coaching choice was the same hope to be proven wrong `for Logans sake ,Shona by far the better player experience tough and over all a better player ,not to say Sarah will not get there in a couple of years and i do believe in some of the selections friendships have played a part ,and old grudges held.

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I think Shona not being signed by Logan is a big mistake , but i thought the coaching choice was the same hope to be proven wrong `for Logans sake ,Shona by far the better player experience tough and over all a better player ,not to say Sarah will not get there in a couple of years and i do believe in some of the selections friendships have played a part ,and old grudges held.

If she is so good why hasnt she been snapped up by another wnbl team by now.

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Shona was left with the advice, from the WNBL source, that she would be given the opportunity to try out for the Logan group - the same opportunity that was supposed to be extended to others. There were no try outs. Old grudges, maybe, possibly. Graham was talking up that she had been signed by Logan last January. It was a done deal - the jpc connection me thinks. Shona probably wanted to stay in Qld, and in Brissy. She may look elsewhere now - WNBL players don't get paid that much - they have to eat as well.

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If she is so good why hasnt she been snapped up by another wnbl team by now.

I think to move to another state would be hard for Shona as she has only been married for just over 12 months, I think she has a steady job and a house to pay for, so moving might just be out of the question.

[Mr bEn]

FRESH off a plane from New Zealand, the BDS Logan Thunder’s latest Women’s National Basketball League (WNBL) recruit, Natalie Purcell, arrived in Logan after signing a two-year-deal.

Last Thursday, Purcell landed in her new home after the 25-year-old was forced to leave her foregoing WNBL club, Christchurch Sirens, after the organisation folded last month.
The New Zealand Tall Fern planned on moving to Brisbane at the end of the 2008/09 WNBL season to follow her boyfriend, Ezra Taylor, who recently signed with rugby Super 14 club, Queensland Reds.

But the premature decision to make the trek north and link with the Thunder was Purcell’s ideal situation.

“It’s sad to see Christchurch go and disappointing for New Zealand women’s basketball,” the 183cm small forward said.

“I was already planning to come to Brisbane and after the Sirens folded, Logan became an ideal call.”

Just weeks after representing her country at the 2008 Beijing Olympic Games, Purcell admits she has had barely enough time to absorb her new role.

Due to concerns over the club’s sustainability, the Sirens loss from the WNBL left Purcell and the rest of the Sirens players, who represented New Zealand in Beijing stranded.

The players were told of the news mid-way through the Tall Ferns’ Olympic campaign.
The news rocked the team and the players, including Purcell, were frightened for their futures.

“It was difficult, but I wasn’t as worried as some of the other girls, because I had other options, but some of them didn’t,” Purcell said.

During her WNBL debut year last season, Purcell averaged 7.6 points and almost four rebounds a game with the Sirens.

However her experience from this year’s Olympic Games will provide the rest of the young Thunder outfit with some valuable experience.

Natalie travelled to the WNBL Preseason tournament over the weekend and met up with the team for three matches in Nowra, NSW.

“I was told that the players here (Logan) are a great bunch of girls and that’s how it turned out,” Purcell said.

“The organisation seems to have great support and operate well which was appealing to me.”

Purcell spent four years in America and had a two-year stint with women’s basketball team, South East Missouri State University.

Natalie flew back to her hometown Auckland after the tournament on the weekend and will return on 22 September.

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A massive bonus for the Thunder - first game at home vs possibly the worst ever semi-professional team to play in any league, and all after the Lynx get towelled up by the Cox Show the night before . They will get the season underway with a win, but it will get tougher after that. The wooden spoon could be decided in week 1.

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i notice Kate Willey is now on the playing list. This is a good signing, she is a great player. i thought she may have been signed earlier.

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wishing Richard and the Girls the best of luck in their inaguaral game in the WNBL. I think there will be a few surprises during the year as this lot are aclose nit bunch

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good luck to the logan ladies in their 1st wnbl game. play it hard girls and all the best

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I agree with all that have given their support so far. Remember Logan has signed something like 7 out of 12 players from QLD, win lose or draw they deserve our support for trying to recruit from their home State and generate interest in basketball in QLD in a climate where we have no other National League team.

Good luck Richard and players.

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I'm definitely going to all the games at $12 adult and $7 for kids. Especially when you get to see players from the Opals in the visiting teams. Would be great for young girls and boys to see what they can aspire to.

[Mr bEn]

Congrats to the Thunder on their first-up win over the Lynx, with special mention to Sarah Graham for her leading performance.

Anybody with observations etc from the game? How was it? The WNBL site doesn't provide much really.

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Great game. Girls played well. Great ball movement. Some great plays as well. Kristen Veal had some great passes in transition. Sara Graham was outstanding with some great finishes in the paint, one off a out of bounds save/hustle play from Brittany Davis at the bar end.
Lynx only had two bigs. One was in foul touble early and the other just big and ineffective. Our big girls out played them. Bench contributed as well for a great win. Davis had a calf injury or cramp late in the game. Hopefully nothing major.

[BJ]

Megan Michael 34 minutes, Bec Haynes 6 minutes. What the?

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Was a great first game last nite by the Thunder, still a few kinks to iron out but no reason they shouldnt remain competitive when full squad at full strength so not a bad first up effort with one of the main players missing last nite. Well done Orlick and girls.

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Megan Michael 34 minutes, Bec Haynes 6 minutes. What the?

Megan contributed effectively to team. Bec will get there.

[Coach B]

You know what the best thing was about the game apart from the win?

To see the ladies embrace the youngens who came to watch them. I saw 4 U14 girls go and give them high fives during their warm down and all the ladies responded. Its great for womens basketball in Qld. My family and I will be there for every game this season.

Stay true to yourselves and give it all you got ladies!


Bravo to Logan Thunder:hifive:

[BJ]

Brittany Davis not cutting it as an import, simply not up to standard for someone who is getting paid. Doubt Logan will have the balls to get rid of her though.

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Brittany Davis not cutting it as an import, simply not up to standard for someone who is getting paid. Doubt Logan will have the balls to get rid of her though.

Brittany may not be key player out there but she isn't dropping the ball either...she is doing her part to assist a very strong newby team, that just about had it over Syd Flames on Sat losing by 1 pt. The atmosphere was electric and the Logan BDS team were amazing. Accolades to tiny Sara Graham who's game was superior to all, ie 19 pts in 19 mins playing time in three quarters.

If we're gonna bitch about anyone it would only be about #10 Abbott....5 too many turnovers to 3rd quarter with a few more in 4th quarter... against such a strong team. Why was she put back out there when Holly was having such a good game and Abbott such a shocker with such a close score in the final minutes.... 2 vital turnovers in final minutes saw Logan BDS narrowly miss a huge upset for the Flames.

You have been Thunderstruck!!!!

Brittany Davis not cutting it as an import, simply not up to standard for someone who is getting paid. Doubt Logan will have the balls to get rid of her though.

OK smart ass who would you replace Brittany with, she is doing Logan a favour helping out the newest team on the block, and as a team THEY aren't doing too badly. Of course they could have won all their games to date...but each game those girls play at home is another high five for Logan fans and the community. It is such a shame that there are "crabs" like you trying to pull the good spirit down back into the pot of boiling water....

Give Brit a chance and come to support the team. Don't sit there backstabbing the efforts of any of the Logan BDS team. :(

Go Logan!!!!

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Logan had Sydney . . it should have been a game they won!!!! Why Coach Orlick persisted with the two bigs Abbott and Davis when clearly Holly was the performing. It should have been a "run and gun" game the second half, Sydney were clearly struggling towards the end. Davis and Abbott are two slow on defence and their "help" defence is too slow. Logan looked great when they had the younger faster players on the court which brought Logan to lead the game (Veal, Purcell, Graham, Andrew/Willey) Megan Michaels is not a defensive or offensive threat but continues to get excessive minutes when there is far more talent sitting on the bench. If spectators can work this out from the sidelines surely the coaching staff can see this. I know she is very respected at Logan but I think she is out of her depth. Bec Haynes had an exceptional game against the AIS and did not get any game time at all!!! Work that out!!!! It is great to come out and watch these games and hopefully Logan will go from strength to strength.

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above comment - spot on!

[BJ]

Agree also.

Scorers are at a premium in the WNBL, and Michael isn't one of them. Whilst she is a decent player, I question whether she is worth giving 30+ minutes to each game? I'd say no. Looks like Dick Orlick is having trouble with the women's team, just the same as he did them men a few months back.

Brittany Davis should go as well. Don't give two tosses whether she is a 'good girl' and what she did in the QABL, she simply ain't putting up the numbers that a paid import should.

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Agree also.

Scorers are at a premium in the WNBL, and Michael isn't one of them. Whilst she is a decent player, I question whether she is worth giving 30+ minutes to each game? I'd say no. Looks like Dick Orlick is having trouble with the women's team, just the same as he did them men a few months back.

Brittany Davis should go as well. Don't give two tosses whether she is a 'good girl' and what she did in the QABL, she simply ain't putting up the numbers that a paid import should.

To lose by one point to perrenial finalist Sydney in their first year in the league is a fair result. Just enjoy the show and be thankful we have a team in the league at last so there is something to aspire to for our young female players. No need to bag players. Younger players will make there mark on the court. They do not need help from anonymous posters on a forum. It was a great game was it not?

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Yes it is great that there is now a team in the league and there is definitely enough local talent around to hold their own in the competition but watching the game was extremely frustrating.

The game was there to be won- Sydney running out of legs after a 40 point thrashing by Townville the night before. The subbing was appalling. It seemed every time Holly scored and looked like she was on a roll, she was taken off. And what was the point of introducing rookie Willy into the game at such a crucial stage of the game... her two quick turnovers were no surprise under the pressure.

And why why why??? was Bec Haynes left on the bench for the entire game? The previous week she was instrumental in winning the game for Logan, causing a 13 point turnaround in Logan's favour during her 11 minutes on the court.

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Unless we are at training every day, how can we assess players performances. I am sure the coaches have their reasons. Let them do their job. At the end of the season the W/L record will speak for itself.

[BJ]

Looks like we've struck a nerve with a parent.

Yes, the girls are trying their hardest. Does this leave the team closed to criticism? No.

Facts are facts. Richard is already struggling with roatation. Bec Haynes is getting underplayed, Megan Michael overplayed. We all love the fact Logan got off their arses and put a team in the WNBL, but we can still say they can do better with what they have at the moment. Should've beaten Sydney (a shadow of their former selves) on Saturday night.

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Anybody give them a chance of knocking of the udefeated Townsville this weekend?

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Anybody give them a chance of knocking of the udefeated Townsville this weekend?

no chance in hell if Orlick persists in subbing and playing the wrong players at crucial times...ie Megan the whole game,Abbott when she is turning over the ball more than anyone else on the team, Bec is sitting out most of the game,Brit when she is out rebounded Holly when she is putting great stats on the board subbed by Abbott.

[BJ]

After watching Logan on Friday night against Townsville (they did well to go down by only 12), here's who they should be starting:

Kristen Veal (G) - No brainer

Sarah Graham (G) - Starting her makes the backcourt small, but she is arguably the most potent offensive player on the team. Has a nice range of moves, and is a waste coming off the bench.

Nat Purcell (G/F) - Decent outside shooter.

Holly Smith (F) -

Bianca Abbott (C) - Not the quickest big, but can put it in the hole.

Megan Michael deserves to be on the team, but not as a starter. She is not a scorer in this league, but her quicks could be used off the bench. Bec Haynes for some reason is getting no love, anybody got an explanation? Britanny Davis got owned and played downright awful, haven't seen any positives yet. Jury is out on Kate Willey and Odette Andrew.

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cassie smith will make a big difference on her return and is ascorcing guard which will help, holly is playing well and deserves bigger minutes as does bec haynes, this is a good group who try till the death orlick is strugling with subbing and needs some help from his staff but they are competing and will improve.

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To lose by one point to perrenial finalist Sydney in their first year in the league is a fair result. Just enjoy the show and be thankful we have a team in the league at last so there is something to aspire to for our young female players. No need to bag players. Younger players will make there mark on the court. They do not need help from anonymous posters on a forum. It was a great game was it not?

But that is the point, Logan do not have to settle to coming within a point or two to these teams as they have the roster to clearly win these games, eg the Sydney game!!!!

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After watching Logan on Friday night against Townsville (they did well to go down by only 12), here's who they should be starting:

Kristen Veal (G) - No brainer

Sarah Graham (G) - Starting her makes the backcourt small, but she is arguably the most potent offensive player on the team. Has a nice range of moves, and is a waste coming off the bench.

Nat Purcell (G/F) - Decent outside shooter.

Holly Smith (F) -

Bianca Abbott (C) - Not the quickest big, but can put it in the hole.

Megan Michael deserves to be on the team, but not as a starter. She is not a scorer in this league, but her quicks could be used off the bench. Bec Haynes for some reason is getting no love, anybody got an explanation? Britanny Davis got owned and played downright awful, haven't seen any positives yet. Jury is out on Kate Willey and Odette Andrew.

Against T/Ville Andrew came on had two really strong moves to the basket scored 4 points and 2 assists in her 2 minutes on the court, the team scored 11 for the quarter!!!!! H-E-L-L-O !!!!

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After watching Logan on Friday night against Townsville (they did well to go down by only 12), here's who they should be starting:

Kristen Veal (G) - No brainer

Sarah Graham (G) - Starting her makes the backcourt small, but she is arguably the most potent offensive player on the team. Has a nice range of moves, and is a waste coming off the bench.

Nat Purcell (G/F) - Decent outside shooter.

Holly Smith (F) -

Bianca Abbott (C) - Not the quickest big, but can put it in the hole.

Megan Michael deserves to be on the team, but not as a starter. She is not a scorer in this league, but her quicks could be used off the bench. Bec Haynes for some reason is getting no love, anybody got an explanation? Britanny Davis got owned and played downright awful, haven't seen any positives yet. Jury is out on Kate Willey and Odette Andrew.

Interesting paragraphs from Bullets axing of Coach Orlick

"Orlick's decision to stick with American Brannen through his calf injury dramas and to show faith in players to handle roles beyond their capabilities went against him with Brisbane slumping to its worst start to a NBL season.

He had too many players on his roster who performed similar roles, and left himself short of suitable back-ups in case of injuries to players such as Brannen or young centre Wade Helliwell.

There's little doubt his side would have had two or three wins on the board had Brannen, the club's leading rebounder and key interior defender, been on the floor."

Reference: http://www.thefanatics.com/sports.news.view.php?id=32525598

Does it not feel like History is repeating itself?

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Its early days yet for this team. Give the guy a fair go. I doublt that anyone expected these girls to win any games let alone the 2 games sofar.

Its one big learning curve fo this francise. Personally I'm glad to see a team representing this part of Qld.

Maybe you all come back to this board after 2 seasons with the girls in the WNBL before making a comment.

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Its early days yet for this team. Give the guy a fair go. I doublt that anyone expected these girls to win any games let alone the 2 games sofar.

Its one big learning curve fo this francise. Personally I'm glad to see a team representing this part of Qld.

Maybe you all come back to this board after 2 seasons with the girls in the WNBL before making a comment.

And maybe we could have won 4 out of 6 if HE was a smarter coach. He should have learnt by now....you think, and then don't let me get started about his coaching team who should be there assisting. With all the money invested in this team there is no time to "wait to make a comment".

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You cant just blame Orlick. Remember as juniors gettin advise if you want to play in the big leagues you got to shoot at least 300 baskets a day! I no its not physically possible for some of these players to hold down a job or full time study and then find the time to shoot hoops for an hour each day as well. But thats another ugly statistic of why they are also losing games poor shooting percentages.

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Who do you believe are the more suitiable candidates to lead the WNBL program at Logan?

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Who do you believe are the more suitiable candidates to lead the WNBL program at Logan?

Peter Pollock.
Sid Mines.

Just 2 names that have produced champion teams consistently..

Look further field...

Dave Derwin
Jason Cameron

How about

Mark McCowan (excellent female coach)

I'm sure the question is not "who can lead the Logan WNBL" but can you look outside the sqare and see the multitude of possibilities.

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some other coaches off the top of my head:

trish cockrem (wnbl experience)
donna rinaldi (best coach going around at the moment, coaches SEABL team)
dave herbert (wnbl experience)
don macarron
terri page

its a shame they didn'ty advertise the coaching position.

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Donna Rinaldi - certainly the best women's coach in qld for sure. She would get the wins and has the ability to get the very best out of players

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Jason from SW - great result for that team.
Geoff McLeod - built Logans womens ABA program from nothing. Agree with all other previously named except I think that a history of coaching women would need to be a prerequisite.

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Jesus! You all sound like you could do a far better job! infact you are the smartest ppl I have ever seen!! well done to you all. ok back to reality. Get off the guys back! did you even go to any of the bullets games when orlick was coach? did you see the roster he had to work with? It was terrible!!! A rebuilding year! The team had no budget (that was b4 eddie opened the purse strings (bigtime) ) also joey wright (nbl coach of the year) led his bullets to LAST place his first year in the league. I think some of you logan players, and family and friends of players need to get off this board and back on the court and do your work and not worry about the coaching side of things. so You are getting benched, big deal go and do something about it instead of whinging on this board. Its a first year franchise and there are some very tough teams in this L. You think cause you coff up your 10 bucks (or whatever) for a ticket you have all the basketball knowledge in the world. at the end of the day orlick has been an nbl assistant for many years, an nbl head coach and a wnbl head coach. You dont get to that point by luck, you actually have to be able to coach to do that. As for these names you are dropping as replacements, you must be smoking a crackpipe!!! Some of these names have barely coached and have had some success at junior level. This is the top league in australia for women. Unfortunately you parents cant influence the coach to give you kid more mins like you can in juniors with all the politics and who you know. This is the big time and if your not ready you get found out and you don't play!

Peace

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Jesus! You all sound like you could do a far better job! infact you are the smartest ppl I have ever seen!! well done to you all. ok back to reality. Get off the guys back! did you even go to any of the bullets games when orlick was coach? did you see the roster he had to work with? It was terrible!!! A rebuilding year! The team had no budget (that was b4 eddie opened the purse strings (bigtime) ) also joey wright (nbl coach of the year) led his bullets to LAST place his first year in the league. I think some of you logan players, and family and friends of players need to get off this board and back on the court and do your work and not worry about the coaching side of things. so You are getting benched, big deal go and do something about it instead of whinging on this board. Its a first year franchise and there are some very tough teams in this L. You think cause you coff up your 10 bucks (or whatever) for a ticket you have all the basketball knowledge in the world. at the end of the day orlick has been an nbl assistant for many years, an nbl head coach and a wnbl head coach. You dont get to that point by luck, you actually have to be able to coach to do that. As for these names you are dropping as replacements, you must be smoking a crackpipe!!! Some of these names have barely coached and have had some success at junior level. This is the top league in australia for women. Unfortunately you parents cant influence the coach to give you kid more mins like you can in juniors with all the politics and who you know. This is the big time and if your not ready you get found out and you don't play!

Peace

Peace, bro....sounds like you're the one on a "crackpipe".

[BJ]

Geoff McLeod - built Logans womens ABA program from nothing.

Is that you Geoff? If Megan didn't go across to have a crack at NBL and they didn't have a paid import, Logan would be hopeless.

I disagree with mentions of Pollock, Mines, Derwin and Cameron. They are all good coaches yes, but men only. Coaching women is a different kettle of fish.

Trisk Cockrem would have been an interesting proposition. Definitely has the skills. Donna Rinaldo I don't think so, can't imagine Ladewig letting her coach a Logan team!

Jason Chainey is a good up and comer. Gets along well with players and has a reasonable skill set.

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Is that you Geoff? If Megan didn't go across to have a crack at NBL and they didn't have a paid import, Logan would be hopeless.

I disagree with mentions of Pollock, Mines, Derwin and Cameron. They are all good coaches yes, but men only. Coaching women is a different kettle of fish.

Trisk Cockrem would have been an interesting proposition. Definitely has the skills. Donna Rinaldo I don't think so, can't imagine Ladewig letting her coach a Logan team!

Jason Chainey is a good up and comer. Gets along well with players and has a reasonable skill set.

Was not Geoff. Agree re coaches need to have runs on board coaching women. Jan Stirling will be looking for a job!

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Have been to every home game so far the spectator turn out appears to be less each time. The game is exciting enough and I go to watch the stars on the opposition as well as support Logan but when the Logan players miss easy baskets its pretty damn disappointing for the spectators you have to wonder if some of these players are worthy of a place on the team. Thank god they are not all paid players. Or I would be demanding a refund.

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Have been to every home game so far the spectator turn out appears to be less each time. The game is exciting enough and I go to watch the stars on the opposition as well as support Logan but when the Logan players miss easy baskets its pretty damn disappointing for the spectators you have to wonder if some of these players are worthy of a place on the team. Thank god they are not all paid players. Or I would be demanding a refund.

The owner BDS has said he would look at helping a mens nbl team get up and running pending the results, outcome of how well this logan wnbl team does.

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2 point loss to Canberra...credit where credit is due....that was a bloody good effort....interesting adjustment to the minutes.....

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[QUOTE= Not a whole wrong with the roster just need a a legit centre.[/QUOTE]

Agree!

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Great game. Good crowd. Perhaps more Sunday games next year. More families can attend without Rep committments.

[Unregistered]

2 point loss to Canberra...credit where credit is due....that was a bloody good effort....interesting adjustment to the minutes.....
That was Canberra's second game for the weekend and Logans only game for the weekend.

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That was Canberra's second game for the weekend and Logans only game for the weekend.

Of course, forgot, Canberra has never travelled before and this is their first season in the comp! Come on!

[BJ]

Of course, forgot, Canberra has never travelled before and this is their first season in the comp! Come on!

The point is that they still had to travel, and were not as fresh as Logan.

If the tables were turned, I can't imagine that the margin would have been too friendly.

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Keen Basketball Fan

Keeping in mind Logan is doing great things for womens and girls basketball for SWQld,
who would you have choosen as your ideal team - thinking of money considerations/player availablility/team cohesion/ connections etc
And seeing as you don't hold the existing coaching staff in high regard, who would you have choosen?


Should that be SEQld......well there are plenty of options for all......where to start...maybe an application process would have been appropriate...Chris Lucas, Gary Fox, Lori Chizik from outside possibly....inside Queensland, if thats where you wanted to go....Donna Rinaldi, Trish Cockrem, Sandy Brondello may have been applicants

JPC seems to be a continuing influence...so player wise....Shona Burrell/O'Bree, Bec Shatz might have been considered......surely with the right connections Tolo should be playing in Queensland (she is a lovely kid and big)..., word is they could have got Samantha Richards, Carly Wilson, Chantella Perera amongst others who were keen to move.....

So how about this squad:

Sam Richards
#Shona O'Bree
Carly Wilson
#Marianna Tolo
Purcell/Davis (money factors here)

Chantella Perera
#Sarah Graham
#Holly Smith
#Megan Michaels
#Bec Haynes
#Bianca Abbott
Dombkins/Vealor other veteran looking to finish career and help out

# denotes Qld

Development players

#Cassie Smith
#Odette Andrew
#Kate Willey
#Amy Browne

Speed, height,youth,experience,league savvy...

Perfect world...say Gary Fox in charge and a couple of local assistants.....


What do you think???? All the players mentioned were available in trade period....

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An internet discussion forum..is just that... a discussion forum...previous post is a bit precious...opinions are like anuses...everyone has one and everyone thinks everybody else's stinks... where does previous poster get off bagging all other posters for stating their opinions....should this forum just be a love-in.....?? Critical comment and erstwhile discussion make for interesting reading and harmless ponderings. Last time I checked this thread it wasread....Logan Thunder in WNBL......open slather on the Thunder..correct me if I am wrong...wait till the real juicy stuff comes along and history repeats

[K. Ambrose]

It's a real shame that Logan Thunder WNBL have produced a hard working and committed board to ensure that there is a pathway for juniors (and seniors alike...) to achieve their dreams and play/coach/manage at such a high level, only to have small-minded people come on here and tear their efforts to pieces.

Nobody's perfect...this team has by far exceeded my expectations of where I thought they would be at...I love going down to each game and supporting the girls and being part of the crowd! If you haven't come down to a game yet, I would seriously recommend it. And if you are going to bag people out, at least have enough guts to put your name to it.

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It's a real shame that Logan Thunder WNBL have produced a hard working and committed board to ensure that there is a pathway for juniors (and seniors alike...) to achieve their dreams and play/coach/manage at such a high level, only to have small-minded people come on here and tear their efforts to pieces.

Nobody's perfect...this team has by far exceeded my expectations of where I thought they would be at...I love going down to each game and supporting the girls and being part of the crowd! If you haven't come down to a game yet, I would seriously recommend it. And if you are going to bag people out, at least have enough guts to put your name to it.

Couldn't agree more! What we have here is a positive experience for everyone. Cheer those that have put in the time and commitment, commend those that have stuck their necks out.
The Logan Thunder WNBL team - players / coaches and management are worthy of support.
Try it, you'll like it!

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There WAS an awesome player who would of carved up the Logan roster if she were to go one on one against ANY of them and been a great asset to the team if SHE REALLY WANTED TOO PUT IN THE HARD YARDS TO PLAY IN THE WNBL. And that is Va Aouska still a young women. There will be knockers saying shes not dedicated, unfit, unreliable but God damn thats one of the best potential I ever saw at Logan right there.

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There WAS an awesome player who would of carved up the Logan roster if she were to go one on one against ANY of them and been a great asset to the team if SHE REALLY WANTED TOO PUT IN THE HARD YARDS TO PLAY IN THE WNBL. And that is Va Aouska still a young women. There will be knockers saying shes not dedicated, unfit, unreliable but God damn thats one of the best potential I ever saw at Logan right there.

Agree with everything you say especially the DEDICATED, UNFIT part. VA was the best potential at Logan but now we have Sarah Graham....

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First off let me say this, I am a big supporter of Logan's wnbl team and the man behind that effort, Mark Dalton. Tang and I have been great mates for 12 years, and we speak regularly on a range of issues. He knows where my loyalities lie.

Regarding Richard Orlick, no comment, I am trying to be nice here. Just leave me out of your discussions thanks.

Lastly I have never EVER bagged out any players in the WNBL program at Logan, that aint my style! In actual fact I helped Tang out with a couple of girls, and we have discusssed many aspects of the program. I say good luck to them.

Let's move on..

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First off let me say this, I am a big supporter of Logan's wnbl team and the man behind that effort, Mark Dalton. Tang and I have been great mates for 12 years, and we speak regularly on a range of issues. He knows where my loyalities lie.

Regarding Richard Orlick, no comment, I am trying to be nice here. Just leave me out of your discussions thanks.

Lastly I have never EVER bagged out any players in the WNBL program at Logan, that aint my style! In actual fact I helped Tang out with a couple of girls, and we have discusssed many aspects of the program. I say good luck to them.

Let's move on..

Bravo.

[Boss Playa]

Do not know Orick as a person, but after giving away another winnable game on Saturday night, I think he's the wrong person for the team. Just can't ever seem to get the best combination on the court at any given moment.

Holly Smith started out well but for some strange reason so no minutes after her solid start. Kate Willey and Odette Andrew get love while Bec Haynes is left in the dog house yet again! Someone put a rocket up his arse.

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Do not know Orick as a person, but after giving away another winnable game on Saturday night, I think he's the wrong person for the team. Just can't ever seem to get the best combination on the court at any given moment.

Holly Smith started out well but for some strange reason so no minutes after her solid start. Kate Willey and Odette Andrew get love while Bec Haynes is left in the dog house yet again! Someone put a rocket up his arse.

Not much 'lovin' going Orlicks way Sat night, some 'dad' wanted to punch Orlicks lights out, what was that about? Winnable game.... was it?

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Do not know Orick as a person, but after giving away another winnable game on Saturday night, I think he's the wrong person for the team.

Hey you, don't you know, you can't write anything negative about the Thunder on here...Mrs. Orlick gets sh&%^y, and the board and management gets lots of love from some posters...and the admin takes it off the forum anyway...free speech is dying...but its great we have a team in the WNBL...

[Unregistered]

Forgive my ignorance but what happened to that other girl they recruited from Sydney? last i heard she had a back injury or something? when is she back in the line up?

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She was sent packing

[Unregistered]

Hey you, don't you know, you can't write anything negative about the Thunder on here...Mrs. Orlick gets sh&%^y, and the board and management gets lots of love from some posters...and the admin takes it off the forum anyway...free speech is dying...but its great we have a team in the WNBL...

" A cynic is someone that knows the price of everything, but the value of nothing" Oscar Wilde

[Unregistered]

" A cynic is someone that knows the price of everything, but the value of nothing" Oscar Wilde

how about a touch of realism, a refreshing addition to some cynicism....and don't get me started on values

[Unregistered]

I think everyone who is bagging Logan needs to understand just how much they have done to get where they are. BQ who have employed a person to work at saving the Bullets should be paying Logan for a staff member also. It is our money that they are spending and our sport if fifty percent female last time I looked. Well done Mark and crew. Just sad that Orlick is in the way of success.

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I think everyone who is bagging Logan needs to understand just how much they have done to get where they are. BQ who have employed a person to work at saving the Bullets should be paying Logan for a staff member also. It is our money that they are spending and our sport if fifty percent female last time I looked. Well done Mark and crew. Just sad that Orlick is in the way of success.

Why would BQ need to pay for a Logan staff member? Are not Logan already in the league. Good decision I recon.

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[QUOTE=Unregistered;11979] BQ who have employed a person to work at saving the Bullets should be paying Logan for a staff member also.


Are you sure BQ is not helping already? Might pay to ask Mark first!

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[QUOTE=Unregistered;11979] BQ who have employed a person to work at saving the Bullets should be paying Logan for a staff member also.


Are you sure BQ is not helping already? Might pay to ask Mark first!

Sure they are helping its in their interest to a have a female team in SEQ in WNBL. You would expect there is funding available to support that cause. My point was that BQ would not need to fund a staff position to save the Thunder as they are already there and despite the knockers are really close to the mark with on court success.

[Unregistered]

what are your thoughts on sacking dombkins? big loss? she would have added the extra needed to get a few wins.

[Unregistered]

what are your thoughts on sacking dombkins? big loss? she would have added the extra needed to get a few wins.

Never got to see her play unfortunately. Getting a big to replace her would certainly help!

[Unregistered]

Never got to see her play unfortunately. Getting a big to replace her would certainly help!

I seen her. She is hot!

[Unregistered]

While the majority of you bag out Richard, is it really making a difference to anything? I really don't think he cares what anyone (apart from the team and committee members), as long as he thinks his team is making progress and as long as the team thinks they are making some kind of progress then theres nothing to worry about; all we have to do is spectate and remember its young team so cut them some slack!

[BJ]

While the majority of you bag out Richard, is it really making a difference to anything? I really don't think he cares what anyone (apart from the team and committee members), as long as he thinks his team is making progress and as long as the team thinks they are making some kind of progress then theres nothing to worry about; all we have to do is spectate and remember its young team so cut them some slack!

You seem to be missing the point. A few people have noted that Richard seems to have quite a problem with getting the best players at his disposal on court at the best time. Nobody cares about the relative inexperience of the players, that is a given, but I would certainly say that Richard hasn't made any progress.

Would not be surprised if he is replaced at season's end with a coach better suited to running a women's team. Perhaps somebody could right the wrong and get Shona Burrell on board. She was without a doubt the best available home grown guard when Logan were putting their team together and it is an absolute shame that politics appear to have played a part in her missing out.

On the note of other 'locals', what is Rach Warren doing these days? She would be a fabulous asset.

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As much as its about winning, these girls are a incredible TEAM. You need good TEAM members who won't stir or create issues within the team. None of the girls do any of such kind.

[BJ]

As much as its about winning, these girls are a incredible TEAM. You need good TEAM members who won't stir or create issues within the team. None of the girls do any of such kind.

It's all about wins. Public and supporters don't give two tosses if the girls are 'nice'. Give me a bitchfest and wins any day.

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Who cares what you think mate. Actually, i'd like to see you play at this high level, then i might actually care what you think.. but wait.. i BET you cant even play at that level.. call me when you do yeah?

[Unregistered]

It's all about wins. Public and supporters don't give two tosses if the girls are 'nice'. Give me a bitchfest and wins any day.

Yes, winning is great, but being both the public & a supporter, don't throw me in with the lot that only enjoy sport if their team wins.

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Big test tonight - a team, not on the second game of a road, a team that desperately needs a win to stay in touch of the finals. A big test for the Thunder... McInerny's defence is worth going to watch..

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Big test tonight - a team, not on the second game of a road, a team that desperately needs a win to stay in touch of the finals. A big test for the Thunder... McInerny's defence is worth going to watch..

Am I correct, losing margin for Logan alot smaller than first game lose to Dandenong??? May have been another winnable game.....

Girls looked beat, couldn't finish layups, Brit totally needs to spend hrs drilling herself under basket learning how to rebound and put that ball back in the basket...basic 101 ball.
Megan and Bec made vital errors due to fitness or lack of. Sara way in over her head.
Sorry Richard you gotta go!!!!

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You are a dead set clown

Its the teams first year. You have to crawl b4 you can walk. I know you have a personal problem with richard (everyone can see that) but its YEAR 1. In the nbl cairns won 1 game its first year. Hunter pirates won 2 games first year. The dragons were the first 1st year team EVER to make the finals in the nbl. Calm down mate and stop talking rubbish

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You are a dead set clown

Its the teams first year. You have to crawl b4 you can walk. I know you have a personal problem with richard (everyone can see that) but its YEAR 1. In the nbl cairns won 1 game its first year. Hunter pirates won 2 games first year. The dragons were the first 1st year team EVER to make the finals in the nbl. Calm down mate and stop talking rubbish

You said it mate...welcome one and all to the 3 ring Logan circus.... where history keeps repeating itself. Shame the girls are being handled like circus animals unable to be trained and run to their fullest by a circus ringmaster that should be given his marching orders as soon as possible. Then the real show can begin.

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In the nbl cairns won 1 game its first year. Hunter pirates won 2 games first year. The dragons were the first 1st year team EVER to make the finals in the nbl.

Hunter Pirates gone! Cairns in trouble and will probably be gone under new NBL/Foxtel/BA competition and the Dragons floundered and sacked two coaches, nearly all their players, and then recruited a successful group.

Not your best argument

The AIS never win many games (unless you count the extraordinary years of Taylor/Jackson/Batkovic) - they are 16/17 year old kids recruited as the best "up and comers" from all over Australia and their future is secure because of government funding. Perth very rarely wins games with the "locals" only strategy and look at the political upheaval that has been the history over there, they will be lucky to survive in 2009/10.

At the highest level, you want to strive for the best. The Bulletts won a title with (correct me if I am wrong) one "local" (BW) playing regular minutes - with the rest of the locals in the development squad (read Broomy and Tommy et al). The Dragons and the Melbourne Tigers have followed this model. Why not recruit the best team you possibly can and build a program around the team's success? Sponsors and paying public are only going to go with the "isn't it great we have a team in the league marketing strategy" for so long. The paying public want to go and see winners and title chances - the diehard faithful mostly get free tickets to "our" WNBL....paying customers want results, sponsors want a bang for their buck. The Thunder can't even rate a mention in the Courier-Mail, radio, or TV...win some games, be a finals threat and there might be some interest and more profile. The Logan local rag is one thing....but most west of the M1 can't read..harsh, but fair...and I am only talking about the local circulation

and you may point out the Bulletts folded as well...but the circumstances with Eddy G was a litle different..and the Bulletts or Brisbane in some form will be back next NBL season and this is guaranteed under the new sponsorship arrangement.

This forum is a discussion forum for the betterment and continued development of Qld basketball and this thread the Thunder WNBL in particular. If it was a love-in for everybody involved in each thread, who would read it or be bothered writing. Rumours can be just rumours or sometimes where there is smoke, there is fire. Occasionally the truth hurts, and if it is not the truth, correct the error or ignore the post....deal with it. No-one makes anyone read this stuff

Put it simply, win some games, get a proper marketing strategy, get some publicity, give people a reason to come and watch, warm and fuzzy back slapping won't pay the bills. Oh and dishing the QABL teams probably hasn't helped either..but that is another forum..

At least the bagging/negativity/opinion/sucking up is interesting reading occasionally - i like the comments on what is actually happening - game plays, situations, players minutes, strategies or lack of them. This forum is a lot tamer than some of the footy forums or even ozhoops where people really have a crack.

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As much as its about winning, these girls are a incredible TEAM. You need good TEAM members who won't stir or create issues within the team. None of the girls do any of such kind.

That's alot of crap, some unhappy players in this team.

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BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH

Your complaining about coverage for logan in the wnbl. Mate NO team in the wnbl gets coverage(papers, tv, radio). Tville and bendigo might cause there is nothing within cooee of those places. And tville media coverage is pretty much all the crocs too. There is no money in the league. The players play for next to nothing and need other jobs.

I'll say it again(just for you) "its year 1" as in "The 1st year" The hunter pirates went belly up because the region failed to support a team for whatever reason they just didnt want the team there. But if your talking about wins (which you are) and the way the team plays then you got no argument or basis for comparison. Cause the hunter pirates made the playoffs in their second year. Yes they sacked the coach and brought in the doc but if you bring in melmeth trahair lowery mvp weathers franklin brad davidson and other and replaced the aba team they had you are gonna get wins. If logan do sack richard and bring in penny taylor and lauren jackson and others you will scream "i knew it, it was the coach".

Cairns have been in the nbl for 10 years b4 you knock them and act like they havent been around. alot of teams dont make it past 2 or 3. And they will not go without a fight with the new nbl. They have made the playoffs quite a few times now.

The dragons made the playoffs year one then got the wooden spoon the next year with the same coach.

The ppl at logan are learning. I know idiots like yourself expect a championship in the first year but that has never been done b4 and might not get done.

Its just lucky for them that they can come on this site (which im sure they wouldnt bother) and find out the exact right way to do things from a brilliant know it all like yourself. Keep up the good work.

[Unregistered]

Logan knocked off Adelaide tonight...bring on Perth to complete the "on road" double.

[Unregistered]

Now that is a win worth crowing about.....

[Unregistered]

go logan! we knew you could do it. Congratulations to you all on such fine win. Have confidence and bring home the double.

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BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH

Your complaining about coverage for logan in the wnbl.

If logan do sack richard

Cairns have been in the nbl for 10 years b4 you knock them

I know idiots like yourself expect a championship in the first year

Its just lucky for them that they can come on this site (which im sure they wouldnt bother)
and find out the exact right way to do things from a brilliant know it all like yourself. Keep up the good work.

1. Sorry for caring

2. Never mentioned the coach - where did this come from?

3. Cairns gone!!

4. I follow my football team hoping for a premiership every year..What is the difference???!!!

5. You come on the site ...nuff said....

6. Just beat Adelaide...bloody awesome....now pump it up...or would that be admitting something already mentioned!!!

I am a supporter......guess you missed that

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I never said you were the only idiot out there. I'm sure the new West Sydney and Gold Coast AFL teams "fans" (I say the word loosely) will be screaming and crying when they aren't on top of the ladder through the first half of the season.

Cairns beat the gold coast on the weekend? weird

I come on the site for a laugh.... which you provide me with every couple of days... which I am grateful for.

If "supporters" like you filled the home stadium I'd wanna play on the road every week.

Supporter..... nice :)

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Peter Pollock.
Sid Mines.

Just 2 names that have produced champion teams consistently..

Look further field...

Dave Derwin
Jason Cameron

How about

Mark McCowan (excellent female coach)

I'm sure the question is not "who can lead the Logan WNBL" but can you look outside the sqare and see the multitude of possibilities.

I have not been on the board for some time and thought last night that I would jump on and see what is being said, what is going on and generally catch up.

Now, I couldnt help but say something about one of the most rediculous, silly, stupid and outragous and down right funniest things that I have ever heard or seen around basketball circles.

The fact that someone mentioned David Derwins name on this board in the same breath as WNBL or any higher level of basketball is the biggest joke I have ever heard.

The guy coached ABA for one year and went 1-19 (give or take another loss or two), has never coached women and gave up on his premier league boys this year cause, well he had no idea. I am sorry but that I find it so amusing that his name would even come close to coming to someones lips.

The guy has no idea about the game and dont try and pretend that he had anything to do with this years success of the Pirates men. JC would take trainings (David would only turn up every now and then) and do the on court stuff.

Hilarious!

[BJ]

The fact that someone mentioned David Derwins name on this board in the same breath as WNBL or any higher level of basketball is the biggest joke I have ever heard.

Wow that's some serious hatin.

I think even Dave would agree that coaching did not work out for him, but he has done plenty of positive things (at least with South West) to warrant a pat on the back.

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Wow that's some serious hatin.

I think even Dave would agree that coaching did not work out for him, but he has done plenty of positive things (at least with South West) to warrant a pat on the back.


Name 1?

[BJ]

Name 1?

Organising that UNLV v Select game is a good start!

[Unregistered]

Who are the coaching staff besides Orlick? I thought Mitchell was an assistant but I haven't seen him at the games for some time......

[Unregistered]

don't say he was a great 18 s coach and orlick needs his help.

[Unregistered]

Interest must be waning.....??? But well done securing the split over the AIS....
Heard Mitch resigned a few weeks ago, thats why he hasn't been around, possibly treated more badly than Dombkins, I've heard..if that was possible....

[Unregistered]

I wonder where you got your sources..

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"I wonder where you got your sources.."

Can't get any better than the mine.......the horses mouth and all that stuff....truth shouldn't hurt, should it...??

but I am overwhelmed by the content on this forum....so much Thunder stuff....when there is evidence of heaps of interest, I may even just totally unload...

[Unregistered]

"I wonder where you got your sources.."

Can't get any better than the mine.......the horses mouth and all that stuff....truth shouldn't hurt, should it...??

but I am overwhelmed by the content on this forum....so much Thunder stuff....when there is evidence of heaps of interest, I may even just totally unload...

Please do unload totally!

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Please do unload totally!

I'm also interested in knowing the truth, not rumors....

[Unregistered]

best left till seasons end...

[Unregistered]

what the hell are you talking about?

[Unregistered]

"I wonder where you got your sources.."

Can't get any better than the mine.......the horses mouth and all that stuff....truth shouldn't hurt, should it...??

but I am overwhelmed by the content on this forum....so much Thunder stuff....when there is evidence of heaps of interest, I may even just totally unload...
Man! I just watched the Thunder/Lightning game and if was the bunny who wrote this I'd be feeling very stoopid right now! Havent seen a Logan game before but from what I saw I dont reckon any of the considerable fans at the game and around that program would give a fig for any of your "perspectives". (Probably better keep "unloading" solo as usual.)
If I was the General Manager of that program I'd be VERY proud of my achievement in putting such a quality show on the floor in such a difficult market as the Logan/Browns Plains demograph. First class playing surface and lighting, excellent seating and atmosphere and thats before you mention the exciting style of basketball those girls play. What the hell do you do against a guard combination like Veal and Graham ??? My partner and I have both coached for a few mango seasons and had extensive discussions and heated debates tonight on the subject...and neither of us were right! In my humble opinion Bianca Abbott is playing injured and is so wrapped to be a part of that program she hasnt told anyone and is hanging out for seasons end. She's far better than she showed tonight. I'm an Orlick fan again after 1) the way he 'nurtured' Bianca and the other girls instead of rippin' them for their nervous mistakes and 2) he ran a version of a play I've used for years. From memory a lot of those players came through the State/QAS/JPC programs around the time of Ollie Dudfield so cant see any problem with local content?? And how about the floor wiper with the crew cut and the huge feet?! Seen that kid somewhere before.
Good darts Marcus! That vision you used to talk about years ago is now very real and alive!
(Tried to text you but have lost your mobile number when I changed phones)

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[QUOTE=Unregistered;13337]Man! I just watched the Thunder/Lightning game and if was If I was the General Manager of that program I'd be VERY proud of my achievement in putting such a quality show on the floor in such a difficult market as the Logan/Browns Plains demograph. First class playing surface and lighting, excellent seating and atmosphere and thats before you mention the exciting style of basketball those girls play. What the hell do you do against a guard combination like Veal and Graham ??? My partner and I have both coached for a few mango seasons and had extensive discussions and heated debates tonight on the subject...and neither of us were right! In my humble opinion Bianca Abbott is playing injured and is so wrapped to be a part of that program she hasnt told anyone and is hanging out for seasons end. She's far better than she showed tonight. I'm an Orlick fan again after 1) the way he 'nurtured' Bianca and the other girls instead of rippin' them for their nervous mistakes and 2) he ran a version of a play I've used for years. From memory a lot of those players came through the State/QAS/JPC programs around the time of Ollie Dudfield so cant see any problem with local content??

AWESOME AWESOME AWESOME GAME BDS GIRLS, CONGRATULATIONS ON A WELL DESERVED WIN. EXCELLENT D AND EXCELLENT EXECUTION OF PLAYS.

MVP goes to the pocket rocket SARA GRAHAM. all 5 ft of her outscoring both teams with top score of 19. Fantastic talent, good on ya Sara.......

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One of the best games all season. Orlick coached well, girls played well, crowd cheered well, refs.. lets not.. anyway.., all in all.. GREAT GAME THUNDER GIRLS!
Winning against Sydney Flames = $6,000 (including air fares)...
Winning against AIS = $2,000
Winning against last years premiers twice this season? = CLEARLY priceless!

Keeping the faith pays off - what a bloody brilliant game last night. The girls have been capable all season, but that was standout stuff. Coaching from Orlick awesome!

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One of the best games all season. Orlick coached well, girls played well, crowd cheered well, refs.. lets not.. anyway.., all in all.. GREAT GAME THUNDER GIRLS!
Winning against Sydney Flames = $6,000 (including air fares)...
Winning against AIS = $2,000
Winning against last years premiers twice this season? = CLEARLY priceless!

Keeping the faith pays off - what a bloody brilliant game last night. The girls have been capable all season, but that was standout stuff. Coaching from Orlick awesome!

Agree all counts cept coaching, Orlick not awesome.

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You probably need to spill your beans. I imagine they would be very small and shouldn't take long. Missed out on a coaching job somewhere did we

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Agree all counts cept coaching, Orlick not awesome.
Dont think he pretends to be. Got the job done but and against quality opposition.
Truthfully havent been a big Orlick fan but somethings changed with him this season. Maybe he's going with the groove that Logan's WNBL program has become?
Two things motivate people...interest and fear, and you get far more out of a player when you've captured their interest. I've seen many coaches (including myself) having coaching success far above our technical knowledge just using that technique. Instead of the old 'fear' technique Orlick used to use he actually has those girls interested...and extremely motivated. Now take a Coach with Orlick's technical knowledge and experience and mix it with a positive rapport with his players and I think we might see a title shot at good old Logan in the next couple of seasons. Off the court? He may be different. (Who cares)
Awesome? Maybe not. Effective? DEFINATELY! Humble?...very endearing and a good image for the Thunder program. I for one will be getting a season ticket next season and isnt that what the game needs right now?

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Dont think he pretends to be. Got the job done but and against quality opposition.
Truthfully havent been a big Orlick fan but somethings changed with him this season. Maybe he's going with the groove that Logan's WNBL program has become?
Two things motivate people...interest and fear, and you get far more out of a player when you've captured their interest. I've seen many coaches (including myself) having coaching success far above our technical knowledge just using that technique. Instead of the old 'fear' technique Orlick used to use he actually has those girls interested...and extremely motivated. Now take a Coach with Orlick's technical knowledge and experience and mix it with a positive rapport with his players and I think we might see a title shot at good old Logan in the next couple of seasons. Off the court? He may be different. (Who cares)
Awesome? Maybe not. Effective? DEFINATELY! Humble?...very endearing and a good image for the Thunder program. I for one will be getting a season ticket next season and isnt that what the game needs right now?

Well said and if anyone doubts the committment from that team, coaching staff included, you obviously didn't see the game (live or TV) - not a resentful face all round. It's been the same all year.

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"Now take a Coach with Orlick's technical knowledge and experience "
25 seconds left on clock, up by three, your possession, other team on 4 team fouls, other team with no timeouts left, would you call a timeout? It gave Adelaide a chance to get organised. They did get the steal but did not look as if they had any plan to get a three.
Sarah Graham deserves some recognition. She has come up trumps so many times this season particularly in big situations. Is it too early in her career to start a push for selection into the Opals squad? One decent big and some more athletism through the squad and we could be there.

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"Now take a Coach with Orlick's technical knowledge and experience "
25 seconds left on clock, up by three, your possession, other team on 4 team fouls, other team with no timeouts left, would you call a timeout? It gave Adelaide a chance to get organised. They did get the steal but did not look as if they had any plan to get a three.
Sarah Graham deserves some recognition. She has come up trumps so many times this season particularly in big situations. Is it too early in her career to start a push for selection into the Opals squad? One decent big and some more athletism through the squad and we could be there.
Have you thought he had a plan in mind to negate what was obviously going to be a 3 attempt? We only heard the Adelaide timeout and all their coach had in mind was get the ball to the owners daughter. Didnt take any technical expertise or experience to know that was what was going to happen. Maybe he set his team to make the steal? We wont know but it's a reasonable thought...(thats if you havent got an axe to grind about Rick Orlick)
What I liked was the 'high/low' offence he ran. I reckon he knows it wasnt the best offense for Thunder but I also reckon he knew it was the way to get the awesome Kala Francis on fouls. Having been around a bit and being a croweater too he would have known that Kala is prone to stop playing D when she's got fouls.
Anyway all that aside I thought he presented a great demeanour under pressure for his team and it was certainly noticed by the commentary team and presumably the National viewing audience. Thats the point of the "Orlick is cool" rant. Great advertisement for the home crowd and his franchise AND they pulled off a great win!

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quote 'One more big and some more athletism in the team'

the athleticism was sitting on the bench!

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"Now take a Coach with Orlick's technical knowledge and experience "
25 seconds left on clock, up by three, your possession, other team on 4 team fouls, other team with no timeouts left, would you call a timeout? It gave Adelaide a chance to get organised. They did get the steal but did not look as if they had any plan to get a three.
Sarah Graham deserves some recognition. She has come up trumps so many times this season particularly in big situations. Is it too early in her career to start a push for selection into the Opals squad? One decent big and some more athletism through the squad and we could be there.

Does it really matter if he called a timeout? Logan played solid d in those last 25 seconds which made Marino put up a no hoper.. maybe thats what he was organising in that time-out?

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Couldn't let Friday night's game pass without congratulating Logan ladies on a great win and another enticing advertisement for getting the public to attend and support them in the WNBL.
I invited 6 friends to the match. These people were not "basketball" nuts like us. Without exception all loved the atmosphere, the game itself and wanted to know when the next one was. All disappointed when told there was only one home game left. Incidently, my "league fan mate" loved the general..Kristen Veal.. "Controlled the game that number 32!!" Anyway well done Thunder. ...Jim Kerr

PS yes the East Coast Challenge is on again at Cornubia..6,7 & 8 June.. over 30's for men and women ..nomination forms out soon... email: kerrj@qst.newsltd.com.au

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Graham named Rookie of the Year

09.03.09
Logan Thunder guard Sarah Graham has been named the 2008/09 Betty Watson Rookie of the Year in the Australian Defence Force Women’s National Basketball League.

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The 163cm pocket rocket scored 283 points at a team high 12.9 points per game, shooting 41.6 per cent from the field. She was also precise from 3-point range, knocking down 41-of-108 attempts at 38 per cent.

Graham averaged career high numbers in points (12.9), rebounds (3.3) and assists (2.2) per game.

Sharing point guard duties with veteran Kristen Veal, Graham started the season with a career-best 21 points to lead all scorers against the Perth Lynx in Round 1 before setting a new bench mark of 24 points against Sydney Uni in Round 4.

She went on to be Logan’s highest-scorer in the team’s debut season, scoring ten-or more points in 18 games.

Graham was named the Nivea Player of the Week in Round 17 after inspiring Logan to an upset win over the Adelaide Lightning. She made a number of clutch baskets throughout the game and led all scorers with 19 points, including three-of-five from 3-point range and grabbed six rebounds.

The Brisbane native made her ADF WNBL debut last season and played in four games for the Dandenong Rangers but she took the court in all 22 of the Thunder’s games this season and top-scored in seven outings. She credited her improvement to hard work in the pre-season and more court time.

"Coming into a younger team with not much experience I got a few more opportunities and was able to take them this year,” Graham said.

"I had a better pre-season and they were the two main differences between this season and last.”

The 19-year-old played with a maturity beyond her years as she fearlessly took on more experienced opponents including ADF Opal and Bendigo Spirit point guard Kristi Harrower and Canberra Capitals’ Natalie Hurst.

“It was a bit daunting at first playing Kristi Harrower,” Graham said.

"It’s pretty tough, I guess the main thing is to learn from them when you’re playing against them.”

After her outstanding season Graham has re-signed with the Thunder on a new two-year contract.

She joins a prestigious list of Australian basketballers who have been awarded the Rookie of the Year including ADF Opals Lauren Jackson and Laura Summerton.

In 1988, the Youth Player of the Year was first awarded to Lucille Hamilton of the AIS, then in 1995 the award became known as the Betty Watson Rookie of the Year Award in recognition of Watson’s years of dedication to the Australian women’s national team and for her part in helping found the WNBL.

The Bettie Watson Rookie of the Year Award is determined by a poll of the head coach, assistant coach and team captain from all WNBL clubs, where voters are not allowed to vote for members of their own team.

To receive the award a player must be under the age of 21 and be in either their first or second year in the league (to be eligible in their second year they must have played no more than half the regular season games during their first year).

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Thunder should make finals next year, not many top players in rival teams are sticking around for another season.

Townsville will loose Cox to europe and Crouse has retired. Bishop is likely to try a sint in europe. harrower?? she is likely to leave. Not to mention Adelaide players are looking overseas aswell.

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Any new signings this year?

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Any new signings this year?
Heard Abbot gave ink.

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Heard Abbot gave ink.

Oohh pleeease...........

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Heard FRYTERS from Knox has signed

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Anybody know if Rachel Warren is local these days? Thought we might've seen her pop up in QBL, but have not heard anything. She would be a very solid big for the Logan program is she still has interest in the game.

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Rachel finished her studies at Uni of Portland last year but decided she'd stay living in the US. Her boyfriend is a portland local so i doubt she'll head back here for good anytime soon.

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Rachel finished her studies at Uni of Portland last year but decided she'd stay living in the US. Her boyfriend is a portland local so i doubt she'll head back here for good anytime soon.

Ok thanks for the info. A shame we won't get to see her play here, but all the best to her over there.

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i hear that logan have re-signed or are re-signing everyone from last season.

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i hear that logan have re-signed or are re-signing everyone from last season.

Well I hope that Brittany Davis won't be re-signed.

Am happy for everybody else to get another run, although would like to see another talented big (local or import) added to the mix.

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Well I hope that Brittany Davis won't be re-signed.

Am happy for everybody else to get another run, although would like to see another talented big (local or import) added to the mix.

Like who?

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Has Rick Orlick been appointed the coach again

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Look further field...

Dave Derwin
Jason Cameron

This is hilarious!

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Get Jason Chainey on board I say!

Either him or Donna Rinaldi.

Orlick is no womens coach that's for sure.

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completely agree... Donna Rinaldi should be involved, she is one of QLDs best female coaches, if not the best. she has a very successful record and gets the best out of her players.

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Get Jason Chainey on board I say!

Either him or Donna Rinaldi.

Orlick is no womens coach that's for sure.

I disagree. Richard Orlick is an exceptional coach no matter what "gender" he is coaching. He can identify talent and gives everyone a chance to prove themselves. He is very loyal and brings out the best in any athlete and has alot of experience. The Logan Thunder wnbl girls have an enormous amount of respect for him as a coach which is why they did so well and developed so much as a team. The amount of belief and faith he puts into his players brings them enormous confidence which helps their game in every way. I think Richard has not been given enough credit for all of his outstanding work and dedication he has been a great assest to this team and he is a great coach.

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Has Rick Orlick been appointed the coach again
I won't be going to watch, and a lot of other people have said they won't go and
watch if Orlick Coaches this year.

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What a great supporter of the game you are. Wont watch because you don't like the coach. The team has still been playing well and deserve support, and a true fan would be there regardless.

I'd guess that since you were 10 years old in the playground, when things didn't go your way you'd take your ball and go home.

I'm not an Orlick fan or hater but your comment sounds so dumb, especially with the tag that lots of others have said it too. Not even brave enough to stand out there alone.

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I don't think that Richard did too bad of a job, but needs a little bit of help from his assitant coaches. Not being neagtive here, but I think last year their inexpericance showed and a lot of the time they were sitting back watching instead and in awe of what they were doing instead of giving input that a head coach needs. eg someone that did well has been sitting too long, and is getting cold. From seeing a lot of the games Richard needed a few reminders from his staff on who was on the bench so the roatations could improve. Good group of Grils and talent there, and that showed last year, just needing to grow on last year and for a second year group they should go well.

It was all a learning curve last year and I hope this year with a year's experience under their belt the team coaching staff have learned and will grow.

Good luck to them this year.

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The problem with Richard is that he is the sort of coach not many players want to play for.

Prime example - Bec Shatz. Her signing should've been in the bag to play for her 'home' team in their inaugural season, but no. Also missed out on a handy big in Tolo. I'm sure there are plenty more.

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I won't be going to watch, and a lot of other people have said they won't go and
watch if Orlick Coaches this year.
Just a guess but I reckon nobody at Logan will notice your not there and if they do will think themselves lucky.

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The problem with Richard is that he is the sort of coach not many players want to play for.

Prime example - Bec Shatz. Her signing should've been in the bag to play for her 'home' team in their inaugural season, but no. Also missed out on a handy big in Tolo. I'm sure there are plenty more.
Tolo has bigger fish to fry and will probably be overseas (WNBA or Europe) if she's not with her family up North. Bec Shatz...? Well Richard and her have worked together before, maybe she's not quite what he wants for the role and has someone better or at least more ameniable to his philosophy/style ??

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Bec Shatz...? maybe she's not quite what he wants for the role and has someone better or at least more ameniable to his philosophy/style ??

And therein may lie a problem. If she didn't suit his 'philosophy' then he should've amended his style to accomodate her. As well as being a local girl (great proro tool) she is also a solid talent who would've performed better than quite a number of other girls who were on the roster.

Shona Burrell/O'Bree should've been there as well, but heard that the two don't get along, so there's another class local MIA.

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And therein may lie a problem. If she didn't suit his 'philosophy' then he should've amended his style to accomodate her. As well as being a local girl (great proro tool) she is also a solid talent who would've performed better than quite a number of other girls who were on the roster.

Shona Burrell/O'Bree should've been there as well, but heard that the two don't get along, so there's another class local MIA.
So your saying throw out the whole successful program to date including the coach and all the players and bring in Bec Shatz and a coach who will coach to her style of game (are you suggesting Shona and her husband to coach ?)and hope to start again??? Um...why??? Wouldnt Bec be best just playing somewhere where she can do what she wants or fit in with what Logan's got going, IF she wants to play there??? Of course maybe she's simply not good enough?! Maybe Shona is too old and settled to be building a new program around?? Who knows? I'm confused where your coming from?

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completely agree... Donna Rinaldi should be involved, she is one of QLDs best female coaches, if not the best. she has a very successful record and gets the best out of her players.

NO QUESTION HEA.....

DONNA RINALDI FOR WNBL HEAD COACH!

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NO QUESTION HEA.....

DONNA RINALDI FOR WNBL HEAD COACH!

Donna would be a good coach for any team, mens or womens. Richard is a great coach as well. I think it's just of tall poppy syndrome with everyone knocking him. People face the facts: NOT ALL COACHES & PLAYERS GET ALONG!

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And therein may lie a problem. If she didn't suit his 'philosophy' then he should've amended his style to accomodate her. As well as being a local girl (great proro tool) she is also a solid talent who would've performed better than quite a number of other girls who were on the roster.

Shona Burrell/O'Bree should've been there as well, but heard that the two don't get along, so there's another class local MIA.

Yep I'm slow I know, lightbulb has just gone on!!! Same poisonous pen from last year with same issue.

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I won't be going to watch, and a lot of other people have said they won't go and
watch if Orlick Coaches this year.

Then it will be a shame you, and " lots of other people" miss out on what I hope will be an exciting second season. I bet we'll see you there though, you won't want to miss the fun. Great new venue, second season to prove themselves, to good an opportunity to miss.

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I don't think that Richard did too bad of a job, but needs a little bit of help from his assitant coaches. Not being neagtive here, but I think last year their inexpericance showed and a lot of the time they were sitting back watching instead and in awe of what they were doing instead of giving input that a head coach needs. eg someone that did well has been sitting too long, and is getting cold. From seeing a lot of the games Richard needed a few reminders from his staff on who was on the bench so the roatations could improve. Good group of Grils and talent there, and that showed last year, just needing to grow on last year and for a second year group they should go well.

It was all a learning curve last year and I hope this year with a year's experience under their belt the team coaching staff have learned and will grow.

Good luck to them this year.

They are a professional bunch, and will have had the off season to ponder and address those and other weaknesses that may have arisen last season. Good times to start again soon!

[Kristian Veal return]

Logan WNBL supporters get to see half the coming seasons team on the floor this Saturday night when the Nunawading Spectres play the Lady Spartans at Carina. 6pm saturday night.

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And what a cracker of a game it should be too! Should be some great tussles on the court.

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So your saying throw out the whole successful program to date including the coach and all the players and bring in Bec Shatz and a coach who will coach to her style of game (are you suggesting Shona and her husband to coach ?)and hope to start again??? Um...why??? Wouldnt Bec be best just playing somewhere where she can do what she wants or fit in with what Logan's got going, IF she wants to play there??? Of course maybe she's simply not good enough?! Maybe Shona is too old and settled to be building a new program around?? Who knows? I'm confused where your coming from?

I'm saying that we should be asking questions of the 'program' if it's not able to attract the best players available to it. Players are the most important ingredient to a franchise, not the coach.

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I'm saying that we should be asking questions of the 'program' if it's not able to attract the best players available to it. Players are the most important ingredient to a franchise, not the coach.
Man thats wierd!!! Yes its a well known requirement of coaching at elite/professional level that you must be the winner of the popularity contest. Joey Wright very nearly didnt end up coaching the Bullets because Mrs. McKinnon didnt think her little boy liked him but in the end they decided to let him coach because Mrs. McKinnon had bowls and QCWA most weekends and wouldnt be able to coach at away games.
Same with Richard Orlick. Sure all the basketball comentators and WNBL people reckon he did a fantastic job with an inaugral year program but only being able to attract players with the legend status of Kristen Veal and company really isnt good enough you know. Anyway what would they know about professional basketball???I dont know just who this class player is that Logan need to sack the coach and the 12 other players who DO want to play for him,for, but I agree, the lass should be allowed to play and maybe her Mum could coach seeing as though its so important that the lassies wants are adhered to. Dont know why you need a coach anyway really??? Surely the girls and the Mums can get it organised on game night.

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Kristen Veal was happy to go wherever she got paid.

Who else of noteworthy status have Logan been able to attract, answer me that.

Everybody else is there because they are all local.

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That's exactly right, they are there because the are locals! And isn't that great to see these players - all up and coming, getting the opportunity to play in their home state and being mentored by Kristen.

Sheesh! Give it up.

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Donna would be a good coach for any team, mens or womens. Richard is a great coach as well. I think it's just of tall poppy syndrome with everyone knocking him. People face the facts: NOT ALL COACHES & PLAYERS GET ALONG!

NOT ALL COACHES COACH too

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That's exactly right, they are there because the are locals! And isn't that great to see these players - all up and coming, getting the opportunity to play in their home state and being mentored by Kristen.

Sheesh! Give it up.
Yess exactly!! Therein lies the rub...the program went well last year (Veal went fantastic!) even Orlick gained some new admirers. If it aint broke...dont fix it...and the Thunder womens program definately aint broke. As far as players getting along with Coaches...like if a kid didnt like Marty Clark (and rumour has it he can be "difficult") do you see that kid saying no to a scholarship?? Conversely do you see the AIS giving him the boot so some kid might take a scholarship??? Definately not! (Apart from the fact he's head coaching an U/19 Boys team thats on the verge of going top 4 at the World Championships right now..."difficult" or not,) the AIS says this is how it is, do you want to be part of it? "You dont? OK thanks for the interview, NEXT please"
Never been a great Orlick fan myself but cant fault the presentation of the Logan Thunder WNBL program last year especially the way they finished the season. Must have done something right!

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NOT ALL COACHES COACH too
????? what do they do??...VBs and ciggies in the car park??

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????? what do they do??...VBs and ciggies in the car park??

Personally I'd much rather corona's & cigars!

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????? what do they do??...VBs and ciggies in the car park??

DONNA RINALDI FOR LOGAN WNBL

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Good to see how some of the girls went in the SEABL.

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Good to see how some of the girls went in the SEABL.

Yep, the bigs went real well.

bEn: you are replying to yourself? a few times?