U18 Boys Premier League 09/10

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Play the U 20 Finals on court 2 at 6 and 8pm. Let the true showcase games of our JUNIOR competiton the U 18 mens and womens final be on court 1 at 6 and 8 pm.

The U 20 comp is really not deserving of the prime time of 8 pm and on court 1. I mean there are only 5 mens teams and 4 womens teams in the whole comp. This competiton was not wanted by the majority of clubs at the BQJBC meeting prior to the start of the season. Some lobbying by the teams involved resulted in BQ running this insiginificant competiton.

Another poor decison by BQ on this one.

Thats a stupid thing to say. I agree with your idea of court allocation but that competition was a great idea. And with more input from other clubs and parents it may become a more legitimate competition. People like to continue playing basketball after their junior stint and this allows them to do so.

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Thats a stupid thing to say. I agree with your idea of court allocation but that competition was a great idea. And with more input from other clubs and parents it may become a more legitimate competition. People like to continue playing basketball after their junior stint and this allows them to do so.

Then get into the senior ranks. Stopping talking the easy road.

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You are a tosser the jump is too big for most players and the QBL is only 10 minute quarters so no minutes for the bench any more
After under 18 is when most players are lost to the game the under 20 comp is in fact crucial and should be nurtured

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You are a tosser the jump is too big for most players and the QBL is only 10 minute quarters so no minutes for the bench any more
After under 18 is when most players are lost to the game the under 20 comp is in fact crucial and should be nurtured

Plenty of good comps for 18/19 yo players to get into around the SE corner. The few clubs that have U 20 teams in this comp do not offer anything for these players. Ask the question at your club, but don't force those of us that look after our juniors after U 18's to prop up the clubs that do not.

How can anyone say that a comp with 5 mens teams is fairdinkum?? The girls are even worse with 4 teams. And to the poster who said that I would change my tune when my kids get out of 18's ha ha. No way in the world would my kids play in the current u 20 comp when there are far better comps for them to play in.

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stop complaining, when your in u20's next year you will not be complaining when u get court 1 at 8pm. take what your given and go out and try and win the game forget about the court.

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stop complaining, when your in u20's next year you will not be complaining when u get court 1 at 8pm. take what your given and go out and try and win the game forget about the court.

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stop complaining, when your in u20's next year you will not be complaining when u get court 1 at 8pm. take what your given and go out and try and win the game forget about the court.

Players who have a future will be involved in a senior program whether that is club or rep. The guys and clubs playing in current under 20 competition are players that have small hearts and/or no future. Forget about this nuturing rubbish you are talking up. Either you have the ability or you are willling to do what is needed and do some work. This under 20 competition is not junior. To quote a great coach "If you want to get noticed start training". Sitting at a gym pretending your game matters is fooling no one who matters except yourself. No real GBL, QBL or SEABL coach cares what you are doing Saturday afternoon but they do care if you are at training. Stop fooling yourself. And as far as under 20 on court 1 on Saturday beside the fact that they should not even be there no they should be relegated to courts 3 & 4 where mummy can watch. They will not need extra seating as no one else cares.

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Players who have a future will be involved in a senior program whether that is club or rep. The guys and clubs playing in current under 20 competition are players that have small hearts and/or no future. Forget about this nuturing rubbish you are talking up. Either you have the ability or you are willling to do what is needed and do some work. This under 20 competition is not junior. To quote a great coach "If you want to get noticed start training". Sitting at a gym pretending your game matters is fooling no one who matters except yourself. No real GBL, QBL or SEABL coach cares what you are doing Saturday afternoon but they do care if you are at training. Stop fooling yourself. And as far as under 20 on court 1 on Saturday beside the fact that they should not even be there no they should be relegated to courts 3 & 4 where mummy can watch. They will not need extra seating as no one else cares.

We care my younger kids love watching the older kids we aren't related to any of them this is the only place for them to play against competion if they are not good enough for QBL SEABl etc these kids or young adults are still only 18 and 19 they still want to improve why is the cut off point for you 17??? Just because we don't have colleges like in america that train the kids from 18 this is the time they older and wiser and put in the effort to really get better stop trying to kill the dream for everyone.

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sorry to here about this Garrett
Doug

Hows your knees doug

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Hows your knees doug

Douggies knee's are trembling at the thought of getting smashed by BBI on Saturday night...lol only joking mate. But this game should be a cracker, too bad it isn't on Court 1.

Goodluck to both teams!!

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Please name me one player in the current u18's competition that would fit right into a Qbl side?? Mate they wouldn't see the floor, your not going to improve by sitting on the bench. yes some u18's players would fit right into a d league side but d league and rep is not on at the same time what will you do in that break ? some of this years u20's teams have aba players and aba squad members so don't go putting down the u20's guys.

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Please name me one player in the current u18's competition that would fit right into a Qbl side?? Mate they wouldn't see the floor, your not going to improve by sitting on the bench. yes some u18's players would fit right into a d league side but d league and rep is not on at the same time what will you do in that break ? some of this years u20's teams have aba players and aba squad members so don't go putting down the u20's guys.

There are a few u18's from memory that played QBL, although I'm not sure of the minutes they played. Cameron Jullerat from Maroochy was on the Clippers roster. And the Bergen twins played for the Bundaberg Bulls team. There are other buts i cant think of them. I'm all for the U20's teams and its a great stepping stone to the aba, seabl or College

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There are a few u18's from memory that played QBL, although I'm not sure of the minutes they played. Cameron Jullerat from Maroochy was on the Clippers roster. And the Bergen twins played for the Bundaberg Bulls team. There are other buts i cant think of them. I'm all for the U20's teams and its a great stepping stone to the aba, seabl or College

thank you for that 100% agreed. There are a few players who mite make the jump to an aba squad but what about the rest, everyone needs a league to play in. I remember last years u20's season we had Brock Motum & Matt hodgson playing for brisbane who both play NCAA D1 college now. Brendan teys who is playing gold coast blaze now, also gold coast blaze squad members Anthony olah and jayden tom and a couple off ais players all played in the u20's comp while they where up here. The u20's competition has legit players who just want to play basketball and to think this whole argument started over a court hahah you will get your show court at classics. lets go out there and make your association proud and win a championship. :)

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i don't see why the 18 boys premier league final is on court 2. the 18 girls final will be a pushover and completely boring. brisbane will destroy southwest. maroochydore is the only team that's given them a run for their money this season. bummer.

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Douggies knee's are trembling at the thought of getting smashed by BBI on Saturday night...lol only joking mate. But this game should be a cracker, too bad it isn't on Court 1.

Goodluck to both teams!!
Why would you think Brisbane is going to smash the Dore? Brisbane have lost 4 games and Dore only one early in the season. Agreed it will be a good game to watch. I don't see what the big deal is as to what court it is on as spectators will still be there and support will be there for both sides as in any game.

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Why would you think Brisbane is going to smash the Dore? Brisbane have lost 4 games and Dore only one early in the season. Agreed it will be a good game to watch. I don't see what the big deal is as to what court it is on as spectators will still be there and support will be there for both sides as in any game.

Dore will belt BBI.....again. Warwick one of the greatest coaches in U18 for the last decade. KB one of the worst, I am not a KB hater but he has never produced the goods with more talented teams than this one. Warwick has consistantly produced the goods even with teams less talented than this one......KB will get schooled, sorry BBI boys!

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Dore will belt BBI.....again. Warwick one of the greatest coaches in U18 for the last decade. KB one of the worst, I am not a KB hater but he has never produced the goods with more talented teams than this one. Warwick has consistantly produced the goods even with teams less talented than this one......KB will get schooled, sorry BBI boys!

Whatever you reckon. I agree that Warwick is a great coach, and that Kirron is not the best but there's a lot of talent inthe BBI team. Just need to work as a team and they will come away with a win. Lets just wait and see Maroochy they might surprise you.

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Brisbane do have quite exceptional talent I know Waz and Colby were salivating about having that much talent to work with
Bris have played very well early in the season and have regained that form with their impressive performance in the semi beating Goldy by more than Maroochy did a fortnight earlier and so have hit form at exactly the right moment and still have room to improve
Marochy have played very well for the talent they have but I doubt they can improve
I know the coaches feel like they are the underdogs purely because of talent levels though mid season results would suggest otherwise both teams were impressive in the semis
The game makes for a mouth watering contest
Congratulations to both teams. I cannot recall when 2 teams have been so far ahead of the opposition
To repeat a comment I made earlier in the season Keiran did a fantastic job with the state under 18 team last year and has the team in the final so the critisism may be premature
Bets of luck to all

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Brisbane lose by 3 in first overtime. It's a shame they couldn't have 3 referees. Reffing was atrocious. 17 - 6 foul count. Could have quite easily transformed the game

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Brisbane lose by 3 in first overtime. It's a shame they couldn't have 3 referees. Reffing was atrocious. 17 - 6 foul count. Could have quite easily transformed the game

Agreed. It was a great comeback by Brisbane to only lose by 3 especially in overtime, as previously mentioned the referee's were atrocious. Many soft fouls going to Cam, Seth and Cory
Overall a great game minus the refs

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Agreed. It was a great comeback by Brisbane to only lose by 3 especially in overtime, as previously mentioned the referee's were atrocious. Many soft fouls going to Cam, Seth and Cory
Overall a great game minus the refs
Any standout players from either team?

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Any standout players from either team?

From Brisbane Nicky, Ben and Toby played well

From Maroochy I think Aaron was the standout. Then Seth and Corey.

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From Brisbane Nicky, Ben and Toby played well

From Maroochy I think Aaron was the standout. Then Seth and Corey.
And only one of those players is a state player??????

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From Brisbane Nicky, Ben and Toby played well

From Maroochy I think Aaron was the standout. Then Seth and Corey.
Seth is often the standout player in Maroochy games but his shooting was off tonight and he would have missed a good 60% of his shots. Everyone has a bad game once in a while tho so no big deal there and maroochy still won. Very close game and could have gone either way.

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From Brisbane Nicky, Ben and Toby played well

From Maroochy I think Aaron was the standout. Then Seth and Corey.

I saw it a little differently, for mine AK was BBI's standout player, he did hit the clutch 3 on the buzzer to send it to OT. Offensively he shined and took over the role of injured state guard Garrett and proved to be a handful all night for the MDore defense. He also did a reasonable job on Seth and has others had mentioned Seth had an off shooting night, give some credit to Brissys D for that. For Caps BC, Nicky and Toby played well.

For MDore still say Seth was their best, closely followed by Cam J who was on the ring all night and proved to be a difficult guy to defend for Brisbane. Sure Aaron, Dalts and Corey were good, but it was off the work of these two that they shined.

The difference in the game was MDore's total domination on the offensive glass. I bet they had 20 more shots than Brissy. Lots of good things to come out of this for the Capitals, they did not shoot the ball well, nor did they get any breaks in the foul count. MDore shot poorly from the line so they did not take advantage fo the lopsided foul count. What I noticed was the fact that Bne have started to figure out MDore on both ends of the floor.

Should be these two with possibly T'Ville in the finals come classics in 7weeks time.

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Wow What A Game

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I saw it a little differently, for mine AK was BBI's standout player, he did hit the clutch 3 on the buzzer to send it to OT. Offensively he shined and took over the role of injured state guard Garrett and proved to be a handful all night for the MDore defense. He also did a reasonable job on Seth and has others had mentioned Seth had an off shooting night, give some credit to Brissys D for that. For Caps BC, Nicky and Toby played well.

For MDore still say Seth was their best, closely followed by Cam J who was on the ring all night and proved to be a difficult guy to defend for Brisbane. Sure Aaron, Dalts and Corey were good, but it was off the work of these two that they shined.

The difference in the game was MDore's total domination on the offensive glass. I bet they had 20 more shots than Brissy. Lots of good things to come out of this for the Capitals, they did not shoot the ball well, nor did they get any breaks in the foul count. MDore shot poorly from the line so they did not take advantage fo the lopsided foul count. What I noticed was the fact that Bne have started to figure out MDore on both ends of the floor.

Should be these two with possibly T'Ville in the finals come classics in 7weeks time.

Yes AK hit the buzzer beater but shot only 4-18 for the game. Not a good stat. Cam J did basically nothing. Aaron got so many offensive boards and would have a bunch of points to go with it. Also dalton LOL

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Yes AK hit the buzzer beater but shot only 4-18 for the game. Not a good stat. Cam J did basically nothing. Aaron got so many offensive boards and would have a bunch of points to go with it. Also dalton LOL

4/18 you telling me you kept stats? Bull, and you said Cam did nothing, wow what game did you watch.

Cam pentrated at will and stretched the brisbane D so guys like your boy Aaron could step in a gap and make a layup. With out Cam and Seth taking it to the rack and spreading the D these guys are innefffective. Yes Aaron got a few rebounds and played hard and did his role to perfection. But this is Seth and Cams team, with out them MDore would be middle of the pack, don't kid yourself..

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I saw it a little differently, for mine AK was BBI's standout player, he did hit the clutch 3 on the buzzer to send it to OT. Offensively he shined and took over the role of injured state guard Garrett and proved to be a handful all night for the MDore defense. He also did a reasonable job on Seth and has others had mentioned Seth had an off shooting night, give some credit to Brissys D for that. For Caps BC, Nicky and Toby played well.

For MDore still say Seth was their best, closely followed by Cam J who was on the ring all night and proved to be a difficult guy to defend for Brisbane. Sure Aaron, Dalts and Corey were good, but it was off the work of these two that they shined.

The difference in the game was MDore's total domination on the offensive glass. I bet they had 20 more shots than Brissy. Lots of good things to come out of this for the Capitals, they did not shoot the ball well, nor did they get any breaks in the foul count. MDore shot poorly from the line so they did not take advantage fo the lopsided foul count. What I noticed was the fact that Bne have started to figure out MDore on both ends of the floor.

Should be these two with possibly T'Ville in the finals come classics in 7weeks time.

Ha what are you talking about, wow AK hits a 3 to take them to overtime. Man the kid shot
1 - 11 in the 1st quarter that not what you call a good player. And to the Maroochydore bench and spectators calling fouls every time the ball was at your end baiting the refs. Seems to have worked though with the foul count. Entertaining game to watch but next time I wont sit near the Maroochy clan and listen to their verbal crap especially the baldy headed one.

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Ha what are you talking about, wow AK hits a 3 to take them to overtime. Man the kid shot
1 - 11 in the 1st quarter that not what you call a good player. And to the Maroochydore bench and spectators calling fouls every time the ball was at your end baiting the refs. Seems to have worked though with the foul count. Entertaining game to watch but next time I wont sit near the Maroochy clan and listen to their verbal crap especially the baldy headed one.

First off, 1-11, wasn't aware they were keeping stats? Even proves my point better, the kid struggled early, but still had the guts to take and hit the biggest shot of the game. Like i said he stretched the MDore D the whole night, and was there when it mattered. Thats why he was playing and you were watching.

Secondly, and the biggest accomplishemnt of the nigth: you actually got a seat? Well done...

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4/18 you telling me you kept stats? Bull, and you said Cam did nothing, wow what game did you watch.

Cam pentrated at will and stretched the brisbane D so guys like your boy Aaron could step in a gap and make a layup. With out Cam and Seth taking it to the rack and spreading the D these guys are innefffective. Yes Aaron got a few rebounds and played hard and did his role to perfection. But this is Seth and Cams team, with out them MDore would be middle of the pack, don't kid yourself..

I think Cam and seth would be embarrassed with such a stupid comment. Sure they do most of the scoring but it is Aaron and Dalton who get the boards both ends of the court which enables the others to score. The reason that Maroochy continue to win everythink since Under 12's is they always play as a team, something other club coaches must love hating to watch.
Give all the boys from both teams credit as it was a great game to watch and forget about all the stupid comments re the refs and parents , stick to the game and the players.
Have a nice day

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This team is incredible it doesnt matter who plays they just keep getting it done even without Seth or cam or Cory all year someone steps up off the bench and does the job. Last night it was Dalton playing big minutes for Doug who was hurt early and Max who rolled his ankle at friday night training. Despite shooting a very low percentaget the defence good enough to compensate iI reckon thats what won it for them

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it was a great game. brisbane got back into contention on the back of an aggresive display by jkelly the big don=t no why he only played in spurts maybe injured, he was a handfull the times he recieved the ball inside, seth was tuf as always, and in control come o/t.is garrett back classics

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If you love defence like I do that was a great game Full intensity from both sides with great teamwork

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What is with all the people asking if they keep stats? There are always coaches, managers and keen parents who keep stats of the game. Don't be pathetic and deny them of that. They don't make stats up.

As with AK thats a two sided argument. Yes the one shot he hit was the most important in the game but poor shooting could be a contributing factor as to why they were in that clutch situation. I have no problems with kids shooting percentages being low. Its part of the game. It is just when shots are ill advised that it gets frustrating. Both teams shot poorly. Had Seth hit even half of his free throws he would have won them the game by about 15. He seemed to be at the line a whole lot but wasn't on that night. He is head and shoulders above all other players on the Maroochydore team but as a previous poster said that isn't their strength. Their strength is in their teamwork.

Case point: Brisbane is considered to be individually more talented than Maroochydore. Yet Maroochydore has beat them 3 out of 3. How? Teamwork.

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I think Cam and seth would be embarrassed with such a stupid comment. Sure they do most of the scoring but it is Aaron and Dalton who get the boards both ends of the court which enables the others to score. The reason that Maroochy continue to win everythink since Under 12's is they always play as a team, something other club coaches must love hating to watch.
Give all the boys from both teams credit as it was a great game to watch and forget about all the stupid comments re the refs and parents , stick to the game and the players.
Have a nice day
Finally - a sensible comment. I agree that Seth & Cam would think that is a stuipid comment. These Maroochy boys have got lots of heart and determination and 2 players do not make a team. This team has consistently proved that whether the top five are on or when someone is injured the other bench players step in, they always get the job done and all credit to them. None of the boys are big headed enough to think the team will not make it without them and for good reason because it has been proven that they can still produce a win when crucial players are out. Some of these boys have been playing together for 8 years so they know each other pretty well. I also thought the Brisbane boys did extremely well to come back and end the match with a draw. very good game to watch and very exciting. Bring on the classics.

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What is with all the people asking if they keep stats? There are always coaches, managers and keen parents who keep stats of the game. Don't be pathetic and deny them of that. They don't make stats up.

As with AK thats a two sided argument. Yes the one shot he hit was the most important in the game but poor shooting could be a contributing factor as to why they were in that clutch situation. I have no problems with kids shooting percentages being low. Its part of the game. It is just when shots are ill advised that it gets frustrating. Both teams shot poorly. Had Seth hit even half of his free throws he would have won them the game by about 15. He seemed to be at the line a whole lot but wasn't on that night. He is head and shoulders above all other players on the Maroochydore team but as a previous poster said that isn't their strength. Their strength is in their teamwork.

Case point: Brisbane is considered to be individually more talented than Maroochydore. Yet Maroochydore has beat them 3 out of 3. How? Teamwork.
Agreed it is almost like the saying "Many hands make light work" same principal applies in any "TEAM" sport where you are much more likely to win playing as a team than a whole court full of individuals trying to win the game all on their own, that is a recipe for disaster.

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Im from t'ville team, whos aaron?

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same has been true all the way through the age groups with the team losing big Dave first and then Sam with injuries then Keeba and Sam panaho
Now the same guys were on the bench behind them are playing the minutes and the team has been more dominant than ever. After the loss to RBay this team has won by an average of 40 pts per game and virtually no forwards. except for Max who has been out as well and played limited minute when available. It has been quite brilliant to watch the team grow and develop during the course of the season Congratulations to all concerned
the final was a battle of wills and maroochy were the tougher team again
The defence played this season has been a level above anything I have seen in this age group before and luckily as someone already stated it was good enough to make up for the worst offensive display all year
Congratulations to Brisbane for stepping up with a great effort

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Im from t'ville team, whos aaron?

He used to sit on the bench behind all the other guys about 6'1 or 2
played a bit in the 16 classics final against you guys
Huge heart super tough defender and super smart

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So who do we no are in Premier League for classics?

Brisbane Gold, Brisbane Silver, Mdore, Southern Districts, Logan, Ipswich, Northside, Gold Coast, Runaway Bay, Townsville, Cairns...... Who else?

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if i know AK he will cop that he played crap and move on, he still hit the 3, so give the kid credit that he had the balls to shoot after the type of game he was having. Capitals will win classics, there talent is to good

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Maroochydore knew they would shoot a lot opf 3's and worked on the rotations to cover out of the zone and didi a pretty good job. AK and others were rushing the shot as the d was closing out prertty well.I thought he and the bris team played well and did all the right things to be in the hunt
They will definitely not win classics though they have never got through townseville or mdore and it wont happen this time either
Something teams may not know but the mdore boys have a very high basketball IQ and can outsmart as well as outplay other teams even with less talent
They have been working on a lot of defensive strategies and offensive plays which so far they have not needed to use

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What you mean to say is Brisbane is in contention come classics time. I think we will have the premier league final repeated come classics (me thinks they will be 1 + 2 seeds). Don't think Townsville will challenge too much. And with emphasis: BOTH teams have the capacity to come out on top. Could go either way for sure. The final was an example of that. Without their (definitely arguably) best player, they lost by 3 in OT.

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What you mean to say is Brisbane is in contention come classics time. I think we will have the premier league final repeated come classics (me thinks they will be 1 + 2 seeds). Don't think Townsville will challenge too much. And with emphasis: BOTH teams have the capacity to come out on top. Could go either way for sure. The final was an example of that. Without their (definitely arguably) best player, they lost by 3 in OT.

the dore didnt play with sam, max was injured and dough only played half the game beacuse of injuries

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the dore didnt play with sam, max was injured and dough only played half the game beacuse of injuries

They will probably never play with sam. Max is a nil factor. Doug however would have made a difference

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They will probably never play with sam. Max is a nil factor. Doug however would have made a difference

Agree with you 100%, Sam and Max are State Players, hahaha what a joke they are a liability to any state team. I've forgotten when Sam played his last game and Max is always injured and cant play anyway.

How can you select these 2 for a State team and they don't even trial.

And Doug has been playing great ball and would make a difference to the team dynamics

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Sam is ready to go and trained with the state team on sunday
Max with the nationals ubder his belt will be great
I think you will finally see the team at full strength and in form

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Agree with you 100%, Sam and Max are State Players, hahaha what a joke they are a liability to any state team. I've forgotten when Sam played his last game and Max is always injured and cant play anyway.

How can you select these 2 for a State team and they don't even trial.

And Doug has been playing great ball and would make a difference to the team dynamics

I love when people come on here and make statements about how bad other players are
The fact is they are on the state team and you or your little johnny are not so you have no credibility to start with
They are on the state team because the coach wants the best team he can get
His gamble with Sam will pay off and Max has been to a nationals and already proved himself capable at that level whereas you and yours have not and never will
Max simply has to play defence and rebound and Sam healthy will be a force
Cant wait to see them both playing for the Dore, that will be something

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I love when people come on here and make statements about how bad other players are
The fact is they are on the state team and you or your little johnny are not so you have no credibility to start with
They are on the state team because the coach wants the best team he can get
His gamble with Sam will pay off and Max has been to a nationals and already proved himself capable at that level whereas you and yours have not and never will
Max simply has to play defence and rebound and Sam healthy will be a force
Cant wait to see them both playing for the Dore, that will be something

BS. Half the league is better than those two.

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Maroochydore knew they would shoot a lot opf 3's and worked on the rotations to cover out of the zone and didi a pretty good job. AK and others were rushing the shot as the d was closing out prertty well.I thought he and the bris team played well and did all the right things to be in the hunt
They will definitely not win classics though they have never got through townseville or mdore and it wont happen this time either
Something teams may not know but the mdore boys have a very high basketball IQ and can outsmart as well as outplay other teams even with less talent
They have been working on a lot of defensive strategies and offensive plays which so far they have not needed to use

Hear that Garret you wont beat us :P nar jokes, im looking foward to it, love playing Brisbane an Maroochydore always a good game, and i dont think Brisbane will be able to beat Maroochydore at classics with Cam and Seth, Seth is more of a team player an when he lifts the hole team lifts with him an he wont give up till the end, eg the three he hit to get into the finals in 16's top age. But yeah should be good!

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you mean the half that did not get selected for the state team. So you think you know more than Dale Ryan

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you mean the half that did not get selected for the state team. So you think you know more than Dale Ryan

Shitloads

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Shitloads

Yes I am sure you do, that's why you hide behind a computer and slag off on children. Classy

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Yes I am sure you do, that's why you hide behind a computer and slag off on children. Classy

When did he slag off on children? Surely Dale is considered an adult now?

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Yes I am sure you do, that's why you hide behind a computer and slag off on children. Classy

There has been so much of that on this site. Either talking other kids/clubs/teams down or people talking theirs up.

It's always hard to discern where to draw the line between people voicing an opinion and people being malicious.

I'm sure Dale had reasons behind his decisions as a state team may not always involve picking the best players but rather the players who can fill a role best. Sometimes it is energy off the bench, sometimes it is to rebound and not shoot, or take up space, or shoot all the time. Either way they may not be the most talented players but they were selected to do whatever the coach thinks they need to do.

Also would anybody happen to know if they keep live stats for nationals? When do they start?

And my reason for quoting the post above is to highlight a hypocrite. Do not ask another person to name themselves rather than "hiding behind a computer" if you do that yourself. It doesn't matter who you are, get off your high horse, you are no better than anybody else.

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Shitloads

Not necessarily about basketball now.

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Whats happen to Garrett?
He out for nats? classics?

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There has been so much of that on this site. Either talking other kids/clubs/teams down or people talking theirs up.

It's always hard to discern where to draw the line between people voicing an opinion and people being malicious.

I'm sure Dale had reasons behind his decisions as a state team may not always involve picking the best players but rather the players who can fill a role best. Sometimes it is energy off the bench, sometimes it is to rebound and not shoot, or take up space, or shoot all the time. Either way they may not be the most talented players but they were selected to do whatever the coach thinks they need to do.

Also would anybody happen to know if they keep live stats for nationals? When do they start?

And my reason for quoting the post above is to highlight a hypocrite. Do not ask another person to name themselves rather than "hiding behind a computer" if you do that yourself. It doesn't matter who you are, get off your high horse, you are no better than anybody else.

Ha, ha, ok Mr "UNREGISTERED", you talk of hypocrisy, stick to that because it is something you are an obvious expert on.

Yes I do know if they keep live stats for nationals. When do you think they start? good question.

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Ha, ha, ok Mr "UNREGISTERED", you talk of hypocrisy, stick to that because it is something you are an obvious expert on.

Yes I do know if they keep live stats for nationals. When do you think they start? good question.

I think you need to relearn your definition of hypocrite. Not at one point did the poster of the message you quote make the demands that he based the proclaimation of hypocrite on. Your statement is null.

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Whats happen to Garrett?
He out for nats? classics?

if Garrett is out for Nats who will be put into the state team?

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if Garrett is out for Nats who will be put into the state team?

Either Jeremy, Matthew or Luke. None are guards. Would be probably Matt over the other two. That said I can't imagine Garrett missing nationals in his senior year.

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BS. Half the league is better than those two.

If thats the case then why aren't half the league going to nationals?

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Garret will unfortunately not be in the team for Nationals due to breaking his right wrist in 2 places. Matt Strybos has been named to the squad for Nats. Jeremy and Luke had not continued training as shadows.

Sam played if the first practice game this week (against Wizards) and looked good, too, recovery going well.

Although Garret will be missed, team still working hard and players stepping up to still hopefully do well at Nats

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State team played in tge Ipswich qbl pre season tourney. The team struggled but they sure needed the wake up call

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State team played in tge Ipswich qbl pre season tourney. The team struggled but they sure needed the wake up call
So who played well?

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no one

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So going on standings and providing that 7 and 8 South have gone through after the wildcard challenge, these should be the pools:

A
Brisbane
Logan
Cairns
Mackay
Northside
Ipswich

B
Maroochydore
Gold Coast
Townsville
Rockhampton
Southern Districts
Runaway Bay

Still would expect a Maroochydore vs Brisbane final unless Logan can get a lift from playing at home with Townsville in the mix if they can get past Gold Coast in Pool games.

Thoughts??

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So who played well?

state boys also played trial match yesterday against brisbane D league team. boys need to learn to play more physically if they want to compete with a small side

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state boys also played trial match yesterday against brisbane D league team. boys need to learn to play more physically if they want to compete with a small side

The last 5 games the state boys played were against significantly physically stronger and bigger players. We're talking 16 and 17 year olds playing against 20 - 30 year old men including some very well drilled QBL teams preparing for the pending start of their season.

The tournament at Ipswich was tough for the team and a risk for the coach. It was a balance between giving the boys a tough hit-out before the nationals or shattering their confidence with 4 beltings and risking more injury against bigger opposition.

As it turned out, the boys weren't embarrassed and they should be much better for the hitout when they play against kids their own age at the Nationals.

The game against the D League team on Tuesday was an improvement again and still against older and bigger opposition.

I have no doubt the boys will be as physical as they need to be at the nationals and their results will surprise some of the negative commenters on this blog.

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So going on standings and providing that 7 and 8 South have gone through after the wildcard challenge, these should be the pools:

A
Brisbane
Logan
Cairns
Mackay
Northside
Ipswich

B
Maroochydore
Gold Coast
Townsville
Rockhampton
Southern Districts
Runaway Bay

Still would expect a Maroochydore vs Brisbane final unless Logan can get a lift from playing at home with Townsville in the mix if they can get past Gold Coast in Pool games.

Thoughts??

Completely wrong!!!!

Pool A:

Townsville, Brisbane, Logan, Northside, ipswich + 3rd from north

Pool B:

Maroochydore, GC, SD, Runaway Bay, +2nd and 4th from north

My predicted standings from each pool
Pool A- Brisbane, Townsville, Logan, Northside, 3rd from north and ipswich
Pool B- Maroochydore, Spartans, GC, R Bay then north teams

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Think you will find the 1st posting of pools is pretty close to correct.

Also there is no 4th team from the North - it would be No 1. from CQ that is likely Rocky or Gladstone.

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Think you will find the 1st posting of pools is pretty close to correct.

Also there is no 4th team from the North - it would be No 1. from CQ that is likely Rocky or Gladstone.

think you will find that theyre not correct but yes i forgot about CQ..put them in instead of 4th north

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Ok so from what I can see from results posted and the BQ draw document the first posting was spot on, depending upon results from the Wildcard Challenge.

South
1 Mdore
2 Brisbane
3 GC
4 Logan
5 SD
6 Nside
7 R Bay
8 Ippy

Central
1 Rocky??

North
1 Cairns
2 Tville
3 Mackay

So those are likely the 12 Div 1 teams and from the draw document - the original posting is right. Thanks for coming.

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think you will find that theyre not correct but yes i forgot about CQ..put them in instead of 4th north

Brisbane silver take the CQ spot...

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[QUOTE=Unregistered;25437]So going on standings and providing that 7 and 8 South have gone through after the wildcard challenge, these should be the pools:

A
Brisbane
Logan
Cairns
Mackay
Northside
Ipswich

B
Maroochydore
Gold Coast
Townsville
Rockhampton
Southern Districts
Runaway Bay

Still would expect a Maroochydore vs Brisbane final unless Logan can get a lift from playing at home with Townsville in the mix if they can get past Gold Coast in Pool games.

Thoughts??[/QUOTE
tville vs brissy in gf. even tho heat got 2nd in the north, every ton they played, they did not hav a full team. and they still managed to beat cairns three times! so it will be interesting to see just how good they are with their full team...

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Yeah I agree a full strength Townsville team is better than Cairns. But lets be honest Cairns is mainly bottom agers who will struggle at classics and also in 2 of the 3 games you mention only the cairns bench played as they were not for points games.

Maroochydore will beat Logan in 1 SF and play the winner of Brisbane and Townsville in the other - that will be the tough one to predict.

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Yer its true that their bench played in 2 of the games but they actually did better then the starters in the games as they were down by bout 20 in cairns then they put the bench on it onli lost by 6.

anywayz we will find out at classics hoo the best team in queensland is...

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Yeah I agree a full strength Townsville team is better than Cairns. But lets be honest Cairns is mainly bottom agers who will struggle at classics and also in 2 of the 3 games you mention only the cairns bench played as they were not for points games.

Maroochydore will beat Logan in 1 SF and play the winner of Brisbane and Townsville in the other - that will be the tough one to predict.

Brisbane to dominate townsville even without garrett

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[QUOTE=Unregistered;25437]So going on standings and providing that 7 and 8 South have gone through after the wildcard challenge, these should be the pools:

A
Brisbane
Logan
Cairns
Mackay
Northside
Ipswich

B
Maroochydore
Gold Coast
Townsville
Rockhampton
Southern Districts
Runaway Bay

Still would expect a Maroochydore vs Brisbane final unless Logan can get a lift from playing at home with Townsville in the mix if they can get past Gold Coast in Pool games.

Thoughts??[/QUOTE
tville vs brissy in gf. even tho heat got 2nd in the north, every ton they played, they did not hav a full team. and they still managed to beat cairns three times! so it will be interesting to see just how good they are with their full team...
They will be as tough as hell. Certainly better and tougher and smarter than brisbane. That would be why Brisbane has never beaten them in 7 years.

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They will be as tough as hell. Certainly better and tougher and smarter than brisbane. That would be why Brisbane has never beaten them in 7 years.

Yes and there are quite a few players in the Brisbane team that weren't in it previously. Times change. I forsee a full south grandfinal. A repeat of the premier league final

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They will be as tough as hell. Certainly better and tougher and smarter than brisbane. That would be why Brisbane has never beaten them in 7 years.

Certainly eh? We will soon see if your game is as big as your head.

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Yes and there are quite a few players in the Brisbane team that weren't in it previously. Times change. I forsee a full south grandfinal. A repeat of the premier league final

Do you foresee the same result

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Brisbane to dominate townsville even without garrett


stop kidding urself! they hav no-one without garret. even with garret i dnt think they wuld beat townsville.

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stop kidding urself! they hav no-one without garret. even with garret i dnt think they wuld beat townsville.

We will see. Its a team laden with state/shadow state players. Townsville has nobody without Norton

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We will see. Its a team laden with state/shadow state players. Townsville has nobody without Norton

Is that really true ?

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No they will be seriously tough and a bit stronger than top age 16's
In the past Bris have played Mdore in the semi after losing to Townie. This year they will likely play Mdore or townie as they in the same pool play. Either way thats the end of th road for the caps

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No they will be seriously tough and a bit stronger than top age 16's
In the past Bris have played Mdore in the semi after losing to Townie. This year they will likely play Mdore or townie as they in the same pool play. Either way thats the end of th road for the caps

This will be a good contest whichever way it goes

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No they will be seriously tough and a bit stronger than top age 16's
In the past Bris have played Mdore in the semi after losing to Townie. This year they will likely play Mdore or townie as they in the same pool play. Either way thats the end of th road for the caps

A history lesson regarding this age group:

U 12's MDore 1st TVille 2nd Brissy 9th
U 14's MDore 1st TVille 2nd Brissy 6th
U 16's MDore 1st TVille 2nd Brissy 3rd

In this age group Brisbane have only ever played Townsville once, that was both teams first pool game in U 16's, a close TVille victory. Brisbane have NEVER played TVille in a semi. Two years ago in the U 16's they lost the semi to MDore by a single point on the Seth Turner 3 pointer as time expired, one of the best games ever in a classic Semi IMO.

Keep in mind that this will be kind of a 20/20 classic with shorthened games in only 3 days, so you will have to calculate that in the mix as well. None the less it will be MDore for mine and probably TVille in the final. I am tipping MDore; with MDore completing a very rare 4 year sweep of their age group.

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A history lesson regarding this age group:

U 12's MDore 1st TVille 2nd Brissy 9th
U 14's MDore 1st TVille 2nd Brissy 6th
U 16's MDore 1st TVille 2nd Brissy 3rd

In this age group Brisbane have only ever played Townsville once, that was both teams first pool game in U 16's, a close TVille victory. Brisbane have NEVER played TVille in a semi. Two years ago in the U 16's they lost the semi to MDore by a single point on the Seth Turner 3 pointer as time expired, one of the best games ever in a classic Semi IMO.

Keep in mind that this will be kind of a 20/20 classic with shorthened games in only 3 days, so you will have to calculate that in the mix as well. None the less it will be MDore for mine and probably TVille in the final. I am tipping MDore; with MDore completing a very rare 4 year sweep of their age group.
It seems to me from all these comments that brisbane won't even be in the final. they didn't win the PL and they havn't been in the final in U12's U14,s or U16's it is fairly obvious the way that maroochydore have been playing that they will be in the final and maybe against Townsville or I hear cairns are very strong this year, they may have a chance??

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A history lesson regarding this age group:

U 12's MDore 1st TVille 2nd Brissy 9th
U 14's MDore 1st TVille 2nd Brissy 6th
U 16's MDore 1st TVille 2nd Brissy 3rd

In this age group Brisbane have only ever played Townsville once, that was both teams first pool game in U 16's, a close TVille victory. Brisbane have NEVER played TVille in a semi. Two years ago in the U 16's they lost the semi to MDore by a single point on the Seth Turner 3 pointer as time expired, one of the best games ever in a classic Semi IMO.

Keep in mind that this will be kind of a 20/20 classic with shorthened games in only 3 days, so you will have to calculate that in the mix as well. None the less it will be MDore for mine and probably TVille in the final. I am tipping MDore; with MDore completing a very rare 4 year sweep of their age group.



Shortened games????

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It seems to me from all these comments that brisbane won't even be in the final. they didn't win the PL and they havn't been in the final in U12's U14,s or U16's it is fairly obvious the way that maroochydore have been playing that they will be in the final and maybe against Townsville or I hear cairns are very strong this year, they may have a chance??

yer cairns will b alot tougher than townsville

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Think Semi's will be:

Townsville (1B) vs Logan (2A)
Brisbane (1A) vs Maroochydore (2B)

Townsville beating Maroochydore in Pool games but then losing to them in the final.

Pool B definetly the better pool. Logan will beat out Cairns for a top 4 spot as well - Cairns = 6 of their 9 players are bottom age. Might be ok for 2 games in a TON but not over 7 games in 3 days at Classics.

Top 8 will be:

1 Maroochydore
2 Townsville
3 Brisbane
4 Logan
5 Gold Coast
6 Southern Districts
7 Cairns
8 Mackay

Similar to 16's at Brisbane

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Shortened games????

I have heard to get all games played at the 7 courts Logan will be using for the 3 days. BQ will be playing 8 minute fully timed quarters instead of 10. Can anyone confirm?

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Pool A is a breeze
The truth is Cairns are only the second best team in the north Bris are the second best team in the south
Logan lost the prem semi by 50
The pool is a joke
Pool B haas the top n2 teams in the state
Goldy are very tough and finished PL ahead of Logan. Runawat bay beat Maroochy this year and lost to Logan in OT they will be hard to beat and Districts beat Logan in their last game and will be tough
Quite frankly the entire draw is crap is

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Pool A is a breeze
The truth is Cairns are only the second best team in the north Bris are the second best team in the south
Logan lost the prem semi by 50
The pool is a joke
Pool B haas the top n2 teams in the state
Goldy are very tough and finished PL ahead of Logan. Runawat bay beat Maroochy this year and lost to Logan in OT they will be hard to beat and Districts beat Logan in their last game and will be tough
Quite frankly the entire draw is crap is
When did the draw come out and where can we see it?

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Pool A is a breeze
The truth is Cairns are only the second best team in the north Bris are the second best team in the south
Logan lost the prem semi by 50
The pool is a joke
Pool B haas the top n2 teams in the state
Goldy are very tough and finished PL ahead of Logan. Runawat bay beat Maroochy this year and lost to Logan in OT they will be hard to beat and Districts beat Logan in their last game and will be tough
Quite frankly the entire draw is crap is

That works on the assumption that all teams in the north are equal to all the teams in the south. Maroochy and Brisbane are basically equal and you seem confident that townsville is also so thats a strong top 3 but only one north team. I think logan, GC and bay will all account for cairns. They cant put the top 3 teams in the same pool as it limits their chance to enter the finals

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stop kidding urself! they hav no-one without garret. even with garret i dnt think they wuld beat townsville.

I heardd dat :P

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We will see. Its a team laden with state/shadow state players. Townsville has nobody without Norton

Seriously who cares about shadow state players if your good enough you'll be in the team i think its arguable that even some people that do make it arent that good, so it doesnt really matter if there state players or not.

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yer cairns will b alot tougher than townsville

I heard theres a team coming up from div 2, i heard there called cairns? Haha stop kidding yourself mike or whoever wrote that use are never good at classics mate aint no different this year

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Pool A is a breeze
The truth is Cairns are only the second best team in the north Bris are the second best team in the south
Logan lost the prem semi by 50
The pool is a joke
Pool B haas the top n2 teams in the state
Goldy are very tough and finished PL ahead of Logan. Runawat bay beat Maroochy this year and lost to Logan in OT they will be hard to beat and Districts beat Logan in their last game and will be tough
Quite frankly the entire draw is crap is

Where the draws an crap? Whatre the actual pools ive seen about three different ones????

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Pool A is a breeze
The truth is Cairns are only the second best team in the north Bris are the second best team in the south
Logan lost the prem semi by 50
The pool is a joke
Pool B haas the top n2 teams in the state
Goldy are very tough and finished PL ahead of Logan. Runawat bay beat Maroochy this year and lost to Logan in OT they will be hard to beat and Districts beat Logan in their last game and will be tough
Quite frankly the entire draw is crap is

Goldy lost their Semi by 31 points to Brisbane. Two weeks before that MDore smashed them by 28 points. Yet you claim they are "very tough". In the South it is MDore and a gap then Brisbane, then a gap and all the rest. .

As far as the draw goes, personally it makes no difference, as the top 3 teams will make the semis and no one else has a chance to win anyway.If these pools are correct, then pool B is tougher, because they have MDore and Townsville in it. Goldy, RBay, Logan and Districts aint beating Brissy and MDore when the money is on the line so it really makes no difference. Maybe it is Townsvile who are worried about being in this "tougher" pool?

My question is if Townsville are so good how in the world did they come 2nd in the TON? If they win TON as everyone on here seems to think they are easily the best in the north, the pools are fine.

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Yeah I agree a full strength Townsville team is better than Cairns. But lets be honest Cairns is mainly bottom agers who will struggle at classics and also in 2 of the 3 games you mention only the cairns bench played as they were not for points games.

Maroochydore will beat Logan in 1 SF and play the winner of Brisbane and Townsville in the other - that will be the tough one to predict.


Cairns are full of depth, some weak off the bench but play alot individual. those bottom age cairns kids have made the state team, would have more experience then most. i say cairns v bris / tville

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Cairns are full of depth, some weak off the bench but play alot individual. those bottom age cairns kids have made the state team, would have more experience then most. i say cairns v bris / tville

like to see that if possible?

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Anything is possible. It;s a new start for every team. By the sound of things this will be a very competitive Classics and that is the beautyOf these events, no one knows what will happen. Otherwise we wouldn;t need to bother playing
Anything can change eg a key injury illness etc
The horrific schedule is probably the biggest joker in the pack
The team that wins will have to play very well against very good competition

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I missed the prem finals but was lucky enough to witness the brilliant play from the Maroochydore team this year
I have never seen a team play as near to its potential as they did the second half of the season. Especially as injuries were a constant companion though it seemed no matter who was out the team just kept getting better and better. The teamwork and the skills displayed were a joy to watch and I want to congratulate everyone before it is forgotten
Whether you win Classics or not I will not forget your extraoardinary achievements this year. You all have every reason to be proud how you performed

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I am not from Mdore or the SE corner for that matter, but some people need to give this team more respect.

Lets look at some apparent FACTS that have been presented to me on this board (I say facts as when they were mentioned no one disputed them).

2004 Under 12 Champions - Maroochydore
2006 Under 14 Champions - Maroochydore
2008 Under 16 Champions - Maroochydore
2010 Under 18 Champions - ????

2010 Premier League Champions - Maroochydore

Who knows who will win the 2010 state classics but one thing is for certain, they will need to go through Maroochydore to do it. Until a team is good enough to do this when it counts then all comments "guessing" who will finish where in 2010 should have only 1 name at the top and respect given where it has been earnt.

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What a chance to have ago at Maroochydore everyone is coming . bring on the classics
Watch the North

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Good luck to the boys at nationals this week

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Good luck to the boys at nationals this week

Does anyone know where the draws and results are posted for this?

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Does anyone know where the draws and results are posted for this?

http://www.sportingpulse.com/assoc_page.cgi?c=1-4101-0-57627-0&a=COMPS

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all this hype is getting me nervously excited.
cant wait.

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I missed the prem finals but was lucky enough to witness the brilliant play from the Maroochydore team this year
I have never seen a team play as near to its potential as they did the second half of the season. Especially as injuries were a constant companion though it seemed no matter who was out the team just kept getting better and better. The teamwork and the skills displayed were a joy to watch and I want to congratulate everyone before it is forgotten
Whether you win Classics or not I will not forget your extraoardinary achievements this year. You all have every reason to be proud how you performed

I think what was most surprising was that talent wise and especially size wise the team almost looked like underdogs until the tip off
They had Seth and Cam but after that they looked ordinary but i have to agree they were amazing

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Qld South boys lost 1st game by 28

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Qld south game 2 won by 16 game 3 by 8 on a roll. Is Max O.K no court time not good for Maroochydore ?

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Ankle dont know how bad

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Ankle dont know how bad

That explains no time . Maybe it might come could. Well done to the south boys keep things rolling on.

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To basketball Qld when is the classics draw likely to be released ?

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Qld south game 2 won by 16 game 3 by 8 on a roll. Is Max O.K no court time not good for Maroochydore ?

All Qld boys healthy incl Max. Maroochy will have Max & Sam healthy if they want them.

Big win today, boys now 3 & 2, looking better than expected. Unlucky against Vic Country, great to see them bounce back

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All Qld boys healthy incl Max. Maroochy will have Max & Sam healthy if they want them.

Big win today, boys now 3 & 2, looking better than expected. Unlucky against Vic Country, great to see them bounce back
What do you mean if they want them? they are in the team not sure what you are getting at?

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Just looking at the new stats for nationals. QLD south looking poor on the front line offensively and have dropped a couple of very winnable games.

Max Tauvo: 1.2ppg and 2.5rpg in about 8 minutes of play
(injury a reason? Usually not flash on offense even when healthy)

Sam Cabrera: 6.2ppg and 8.0rpg in >22 minutes per game
(better shooting percentages than the others and doing well on the glass but
still underwhelming for a kid who made it to nationals without playing a game)

David Prior: 1.7ppg and 3.2rpg in 10 minutes per game
(not many fg attemps? guards not feeding the big or big just not shooting?)

Jarrod Gamble: 6.2ppg and 3.7rpg in 13 minutes of play
(18-49 - not good if you're supposed to be there for inside play but other than
that has being doing ok in sporadic minutes)

Matthew Strybos: 2.7ppg and 2.5rpg in 14 minutes of play
(7-23 shooting might explain this)

Combining for only 18ppg. Its a bit of a queensland trend for it to be all guards.
Speaking of which a few are playing some good ball.

Nick Chia: 9.3ppg, 1.3apg and 4.3rpg in 29 minutes
(getting good time, shooting a good percercentage and crashing the boards.
Playing solid basketball, not many assists for a PG though)

Seth Turner: 8.2ppg, 2.3apg and 6.0rpg in >28 minutes
(shooting 16-64 (25%), taking a lot of the teams shots but not getting anything
for them...(Garrettesque? LOL. Good job on the boards obviously though.)

Jake Allen: 13.2ppg, 1.3apg, 4.7rpg in 23 minutes
(second best guy on the floor in my books. Shooting a strong 45ish% and
rebounding well. Not racking up enough assists though, noticing a pattern here)

Brendan Carroll: 15ppg, 2.2apg and 4.8rpg in 30 minutes
(shooting 48% is awesome, scoring in bundles, rebounding strong, not
many assists though. The veritable stud of this years team)

Cameron Juillerat: 4.2ppg, 1.0apg, 3.2rpg in >21 minutes
(getting minutes but wasting time, very unproductive shooting a woeful
21%. CJ is towelboy this year)

The main downfall I noticed with the guards is their lack of assists. They are scoring, yes guys we know you can score show us a few passes! Only about 8 assists! The extra pass here and there can change the course of the game. Feed the post a bit more and he will feed your stat sheet with assists.

I wonder if Dale would pick the same team if he had a time machine? Opinions?

Note: All stats taken from basketball australia site.

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Just looking at the new stats for nationals. QLD south looking poor on the front line offensively and have dropped a couple of very winnable games.

Max Tauvo: 1.2ppg and 2.5rpg in about 8 minutes of play
(injury a reason? Usually not flash on offense even when healthy)

Sam Cabrera: 6.2ppg and 8.0rpg in >22 minutes per game
(better shooting percentages than the others and doing well on the glass but
still underwhelming for a kid who made it to nationals without playing a game)

David Prior: 1.7ppg and 3.2rpg in 10 minutes per game
(not many fg attemps? guards not feeding the big or big just not shooting?)

Jarrod Gamble: 6.2ppg and 3.7rpg in 13 minutes of play
(18-49 - not good if you're supposed to be there for inside play but other than
that has being doing ok in sporadic minutes)

Matthew Strybos: 2.7ppg and 2.5rpg in 14 minutes of play
(7-23 shooting might explain this)

Combining for only 18ppg. Its a bit of a queensland trend for it to be all guards.
Speaking of which a few are playing some good ball.

Nick Chia: 9.3ppg, 1.3apg and 4.3rpg in 29 minutes
(getting good time, shooting a good percercentage and crashing the boards.
Playing solid basketball, not many assists for a PG though)

Seth Turner: 8.2ppg, 2.3apg and 6.0rpg in >28 minutes
(shooting 16-64 (25%), taking a lot of the teams shots but not getting anything
for them...(Garrettesque? LOL. Good job on the boards obviously though.)

Jake Allen: 13.2ppg, 1.3apg, 4.7rpg in 23 minutes
(second best guy on the floor in my books. Shooting a strong 45ish% and
rebounding well. Not racking up enough assists though, noticing a pattern here)

Brendan Carroll: 15ppg, 2.2apg and 4.8rpg in 30 minutes
(shooting 48% is awesome, scoring in bundles, rebounding strong, not
many assists though. The veritable stud of this years team)

Cameron Juillerat: 4.2ppg, 1.0apg, 3.2rpg in >21 minutes
(getting minutes but wasting time, very unproductive shooting a woeful
21%. CJ is towelboy this year)

The main downfall I noticed with the guards is their lack of assists. They are scoring, yes guys we know you can score show us a few passes! Only about 8 assists! The extra pass here and there can change the course of the game. Feed the post a bit more and he will feed your stat sheet with assists.

I wonder if Dale would pick the same team if he had a time machine? Opinions?

Note: All stats taken from basketball australia site.

When you shoot at the poor percentage this team is your assist ratio will reflect that. These lads do pass the ball, if the shots aint falling hard to get an assist. We have gotten quite a few points off offensive rebounding and putbacks, with our large percentage of missed shots there are plenty on offer. Last time I checked you do not get an assist for those.

We need good targets inside to pass the ball to, you seem to forget that. Last years U 18 team was premiter dominated as most teams at Nationals tend to be. Good bigs with game are not prevalent in Qld or Nationally at this time, many reasons for that. Why do you think the coaching staff gave Sam C the chances they did, if this state were chock full of dominant bigs, Sam would not have been considered.

Lets not kid ourselves the loss of this age groups most decorated player, despite your snide remarks has not helped. The only good thing to come form the loss of Garrett is it has forced BC and Nicky Chia to take more responsibilty and they have done a great job. Having said that the team have done well and a 5th place finish would be a good result. The Tassie game meant nothing in terms of placing, but we still should not have lost.

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Nice result from the South boys fifth is a great effort for this group . The boys showed a lot of ticker all week to constantly come from behind and win games. Congrats to the players who showed that Qld spirit. Nice job Dale, Dave and Anthony with the group.

Brendan Carroll was rewarded for an outstanding Nationals with a spot in the 17 and under National squad. BC will head to Ballarat on Monday the 26th for the final four day selection camp to pick the team that represnts Australia at the Worlds in Germany in July.

Good luck to all the Queensland boys vying for a spot in the side!

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Great news for BC but is that the 26th of April? If it is then that means he will have a 4 day intense camp and then have to back up and play classics. Tough timing perhaps another reason why 18 classics should go to mid/end of January.

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When are the classics draws coming out!?!?!

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Townsville went to Mackay without NORTON and WEBLEY. Went to Cairns with only seven players but unfortunately lost one before first game and second play against Cairns in first minute, leaving them with only six players (loss by 6 pts). TON in Townsville, WON ALL GAMES with one player missing (wait and see).

The truth is Mackay and Cairns took advantaged of the situation and played exceptional well. Cairns deserves No 1 ranking from North as they won it. Townsville however have yet to play at full strength and have not played this year with a full starting five line up. This may effect them in the early games at classics as they have yet found true form together.

Cairns will be very competitive at Classics and will hold their own against anyone. Mackay likewise, who also had injuries, will be far better then TON form demonstrated.

Write these times off South. Because you might just get surprised.

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Who was missing in the cairns and tville ton?

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Fuck everyone, T'ville boys takin it out this year.

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Fuck everyone, T'ville boys takin it out this year.

a really constructive post...must have taken ages to put that one together. how about next time u justify why u posted that with something more than "fuck everyone"

what everyones thoughts on top four for state champs this year

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Fuck everyone, T'ville boys takin it out this year.

Well aren't you the mature one. Grow up and don't waste everyones time with pathetic comments like that.

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Fuck everyone, T'ville boys takin it out this year.

Agreed! :D

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Townsville went to Mackay without NORTON and WEBLEY. Went to Cairns with only seven players but unfortunately lost one before first game and second play against Cairns in first minute, leaving them with only six players (loss by 6 pts). TON in Townsville, WON ALL GAMES with one player missing (wait and see).

The truth is Mackay and Cairns took advantaged of the situation and played exceptional well. Cairns deserves No 1 ranking from North as they won it. Townsville however have yet to play at full strength and have not played this year with a full starting five line up. This may effect them in the early games at classics as they have yet found true form together.

Cairns will be very competitive at Classics and will hold their own against anyone. Mackay likewise, who also had injuries, will be far better then TON form demonstrated.

Write these times off South. Because you might just get surprised.

You can tell it is classic time TVille boys come on here and talk up their chances. They are always very good at that, yet to see them win anything but!

South to continue to dominate quietly...

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You can tell it is classic time TVille boys come on here and talk up their chances. They are always very good at that, yet to see them win anything but!

South to continue to dominate quietly...
Wouldnt be 18 boys Classics without the Townsville kids spruiking up their "dominance" on Bendoes. Happens every year since I can remember. Also happens every year that they go quiet when they hit the court and the reality sets in. Just the annual routine.

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Well here it goes again, South going on and on about who will or will not win but when North come in with some feedback on their chances the South teams don't like it. Well, since this group started Rep the final has always been between Maroochydore and Townsville. In Under 12's, Under 14's, and Under 16's. Maroochydore have had the goods on Townsville everytime, including Under 14 Nationals, but other then them, no other South Team has beaten them.
So, yes the North teams are talking up their chances but other then Maroochydore no other South team has got pass Townsville.
Personally, I think Townsville will struggle to make the final four. They've got a tough pool due to finishing 2nd in TON. They knew that but unfortunately weren't able to change the outcome. They realise they have to do it hard but that doesn't mean they shouldn't talk up their chances.
So to all the other South teams who haven't beaten Townsville, here is your one and only chance to put them away. After this year it doesn't matter with this group. To Maroochydore, well, I think they go in as hot favorites and deservely so. They are a good team and play solid basketball. Always have and for Townsville, and any other team North or South, their the one's to beat.
But considering the amount of time, resources, and effort that goes into the South corner, nothing but top four from all south teams would indicate that it has been worth while. I mean you have three BQ development officer (North Have None), the NITCP Coach at your door step (North see's him three, maybe four times a year), and you have a very good competition to prepare you for Classics (North are lucky to get three weekends a year). So I would suggest South needs to dominate Classics in all grade, otherwise you would have to question the success of BQ commitment to the south corner.

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Quote But considering the amount of time, resources, and effort that goes into the South corner, nothing but top four from all south teams would indicate that it has been worth while. I mean you have three BQ development officer (North Have None), the NITCP Coach at your door step (North see's him three, maybe four times a year), r.[/QUOTE]

Not sure what Associations you are saying get benefit from BQ staff. Sounds like crap to me. They may live in the south but they work in the BQ office which is a fortress to most including BBI. Programs conducted by BQ are for all the State with only very minimal actual hands on work done by BQ staff in the south.

You should also not forget how much the southerners pay so you guys can attend subsidised events down south. Want to chat about how little the north provide in resources and money to BQ also. In Brisbane metro region I am guessing that 32% of state fees are raised. In south east corner about 45%. Add to this central about 8% and we have the north complaining about paying 15% of fees generated but wanting everything for free.

The north get support from government through grants for stadiums the south dream about. No air-conditioned and owned stadiums down here. No money left after pollies take care of the bleeding hearst from the north.

In closing you say your competition is not as good as the south well get off your arse and do something just the same as we did in the south.

Heres a clue stop reaching and move your feet.

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Well here it goes again, South going on and on about who will or will not win but when North come in with some feedback on their chances the South teams don't like it. Well, since this group started Rep the final has always been between Maroochydore and Townsville. In Under 12's, Under 14's, and Under 16's. Maroochydore have had the goods on Townsville everytime, including Under 14 Nationals, but other then them, no other South Team has beaten them.
So, yes the North teams are talking up their chances but other then Maroochydore no other South team has got pass Townsville.
Personally, I think Townsville will struggle to make the final four. They've got a tough pool due to finishing 2nd in TON. They knew that but unfortunately weren't able to change the outcome. They realise they have to do it hard but that doesn't mean they shouldn't talk up their chances.
So to all the other South teams who haven't beaten Townsville, here is your one and only chance to put them away. After this year it doesn't matter with this group. To Maroochydore, well, I think they go in as hot favorites and deservely so. They are a good team and play solid basketball. Always have and for Townsville, and any other team North or South, their the one's to beat.
But considering the amount of time, resources, and effort that goes into the South corner, nothing but top four from all south teams would indicate that it has been worth while. I mean you have three BQ development officer (North Have None), the NITCP Coach at your door step (North see's him three, maybe four times a year), and you have a very good competition to prepare you for Classics (North are lucky to get three weekends a year). So I would suggest South needs to dominate Classics in all grade, otherwise you would have to question the success of BQ commitment to the south corner.
Think the North (well its only Townsville actually) could provide some better "feedback on their chances" than..."Fuck everyone, T'ville boys takin it out this year."...dont you?
No big deal or anybody denying the worth of Basketball in the North. Just a wry comment on the perennial Townsville 18 boys every year spruiking up how good they are without actually producing. Hopefully they will get it done this year? If not perhaps point out to the boys how ridiculous they look with such grandiose claims?

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http://www.news-mail.com.au/story/2010/04/20/under-18-bulls-set-for-championship-charge/

Bundy mustn't have anything newsworthy happening in town to publish this garbage! What division are these guys in? 3?

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http://www.news-mail.com.au/story/2010/04/20/under-18-bulls-set-for-championship-charge/

Bundy mustn't have anything newsworthy happening in town to publish this garbage! What division are these guys in? 3?


Agreed, but like most years last place in dvision 3... If they are competing agianst the teams they are playing there must be something wrong

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Agreed, but like most years last place in dvision 3... If they are competing agianst the teams they are playing there must be something wrong

lol does anyone know any of them kids?

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lol does anyone know any of them kids?

Yes they are a good bunch of kids that love basketball. They have a couple of kids that could go further in basketball. The majority of the team are bottom age and will struggle at Classics. You have to remember that when they have trials for rep, they get 12 kids turn up and end up taking them all. Where as with the larger regional cities and metro teams trial they have to cut 20 - 30 or form silver and bronze teams. Bundy could be competitive if they had the numbers other associations have.

Bundaberg Basketball needs to promote the sport more if they are going to be competitive in future years. Most of the better players ( Mc Dermott, Wallace & Bergen Twins) have left Bundy as they have no chance of improving due to no real competition.

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Well here it goes again, South going on and on about who will or will not win but when North come in with some feedback on their chances the South teams don't like it. Well, since this group started Rep the final has always been between Maroochydore and Townsville. In Under 12's, Under 14's, and Under 16's. Maroochydore have had the goods on Townsville everytime, including Under 14 Nationals, but other then them, no other South Team has beaten them.
So, yes the North teams are talking up their chances but other then Maroochydore no other South team has got pass Townsville.
Personally, I think Townsville will struggle to make the final four. They've got a tough pool due to finishing 2nd in TON. They knew that but unfortunately weren't able to change the outcome. They realise they have to do it hard but that doesn't mean they shouldn't talk up their chances.
So to all the other South teams who haven't beaten Townsville, here is your one and only chance to put them away. After this year it doesn't matter with this group. To Maroochydore, well, I think they go in as hot favorites and deservely so. They are a good team and play solid basketball. Always have and for Townsville, and any other team North or South, their the one's to beat.



Stop saying that the norths are all talking up their chances.

You have one or two dickheads on this forum, whom think they can speak on behalf of the teams, and most likely are not even on them.
Don’t degrade us down already, to the immature dimwit status of one or two who love to stirr the pot. Leave the boys to make a point on the court, not by some forum site.

And to the guys talking the crap, just shut up, your not helping anyone, not yourself, your team mates, or your club. Stop being selfish for your own shits-and-giggles.

It’s simply not needed.

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Hahahaha we're not talkin it u we're just not tight asses like you south people, we know how to muck around and have fun, and stop putting all these big long messages trying to sound smart, get a life outside of basketball. Loserssss :p

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Hahahaha we're not talkin it u we're just not tight asses like you south people, we know how to muck around and have fun, and stop putting all these big long messages trying to sound smart, get a life outside of basketball. Loserssss :p

"and stop putting all these big long messages trying to sound smart"

surley one of the greatest posts in the history of this site .....

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TVILLE LIGHTNING DIV 2 CHAMPS! (y)

[number55]

TVILLE LIGHTNING DIV 2 CHAMPS! (y)

Townsville have got to get out of their initial pool before they can have a shot at being Champs...(y)

[Coach B]

Townsville have got to get out of their initial pool before they can have a shot at being Champs...(y)

LOL too true No.55 :) Good team I am sure, but it will be life or death clashes in the pool rounds. Right from the kick off, drop a game and you could be GOOOONNEE! Top 2 of each pool make div 2, the rest div 3! No room for error. SW Metro will be tough to beat in pool B. Noosa and GC should be on top of the C & D pools.

Darkhorses in every pool, Suns in A, Bundaberg in B, Logan Storm in C, SW Purple in D. May see a few shocks in Div 3........ And a few suprises in Div 2.

For me Div 2 final Redlands/Townsville v Noosa/SW Metro. (prepared to eat my words lol)

I would love to see Redlands Red and White in div2 or take out both divisions.

Any one else got a prediction for Div 2 winner? Div 3 winner?

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LOL too true No.55 :) Good team I am sure, but it will be life or death clashes in the pool rounds. Right from the kick off, drop a game and you could be GOOOONNE
E! Top 2 of each pool make div 2, the rest div 3! No room for error. SW Metro will be tough to beat in pool B. Noosa and GC should be on top of the C & D pools.

Darkhorses in every pool, Suns in A, Bundaberg in B, Logan Storm in C, SW Purple in D. May see a few shocks in Div 3........ And a few suprises in Div 2.

For me Div 2 final Redlands/Townsville v Noosa/SW Metro. (prepared to eat my words lol)

I would love to see Redlands Red and White in div2 or take out both divisions.

Any one else got a prediction for Div 2 winner? Div 3 winner?

I would say noosa is favourites, runners-up last year and runners-up in south cup this year. Think they will be determined for gold

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LOL too true No.55 :) Good team I am sure, but it will be life or death clashes in the pool rounds. Right from the kick off, drop a game and you could be GOOOONNEE! Top 2 of each pool make div 2, the rest div 3! No room for error. SW Metro will be tough to beat in pool B. Noosa and GC should be on top of the C & D pools.

Darkhorses in every pool, Suns in A, Bundaberg in B, Logan Storm in C, SW Purple in D. May see a few shocks in Div 3........ And a few suprises in Div 2.

For me Div 2 final Redlands/Townsville v Noosa/SW Metro. (prepared to eat my words lol)

I would love to see Redlands Red and White in div2 or take out both divisions.

Any one else got a prediction for Div 2 winner? Div 3 winner?

Who cares...

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Classics this weekend! cant wait..

tville have tough first day, will see if they have wat it takes after the first 2 games

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LOL too true No.55 :) Good team I am sure, but it will be life or death clashes in the pool rounds. Right from the kick off, drop a game and you could be GOOOONNEE! Top 2 of each pool make div 2, the rest div 3! No room for error. SW Metro will be tough to beat in pool B. Noosa and GC should be on top of the C & D pools.

Darkhorses in every pool, Suns in A, Bundaberg in B, Logan Storm in C, SW Purple in D. May see a few shocks in Div 3........ And a few suprises in Div 2.

For me Div 2 final Redlands/Townsville v Noosa/SW Metro. (prepared to eat my words lol)

I would love to see Redlands Red and White in div2 or take out both divisions.

Any one else got a prediction for Div 2 winner? Div 3 winner?

Suns wont be darkhorses for pool A, they will beat the GC rollers easily. trust me on that one, not saying their great but trust me they are going to surprise at classics.

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Suns wont be darkhorses for pool A, they will beat the GC rollers easily. trust me on that one, not saying their great but trust me they are going to surprise at classics.

Who cares, its Div 2

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Who cares, its Div 2

DAMN STRAIGHT! :D

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OZ squad - BC in , Garrett out.

Can anyone confirm?

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Pool A
Brisbane (easily undefeated)
Logan (will pull away from Cairns down the stretch)
Cairns
Mackay
Northside
Ipswich

Pool B
Maroochydore (tough pool win vs Tville)
Townsville (will get GC in tough game)
Gold Coast
Southern Districts
Runaway Bay
Brisbane Silver

Brisbane to beat Townsville in a close one (if Brisbane can get infront early)
Maroochydore to smash Logan (to many mental scares vs Mdore for Logan to overcome)

Brisbane to beat Maroochyore in a final that could go either way - something just tells me the gap keeps getting smaller and smaller and BC is full of confidence after Nationals and they may ride his efforts to a back to back title.

Just some thoughts wonder how close I will go?

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Pool A
Brisbane (easily undefeated)
Logan (will pull away from Cairns down the stretch)
Cairns
Mackay
Northside
Ipswich

Pool B
Maroochydore (tough pool win vs Tville)
Townsville (will get GC in tough game)
Gold Coast
Southern Districts
Runaway Bay
Brisbane Silver

Brisbane to beat Townsville in a close one (if Brisbane can get infront early)
Maroochydore to smash Logan (to many mental scares vs Mdore for Logan to overcome)

Brisbane to beat Maroochyore in a final that could go either way - something just tells me the gap keeps getting smaller and smaller and BC is full of confidence after Nationals and they may ride his efforts to a back to back title.

Just some thoughts wonder how close I will go?

Agreed, definitely a bris and maroochy final unless the boys drop the ball. Could go either way on the day.

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Who's good in the Townsville Lightning team?

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Whats going on. Day 1 of Classics has been and gone and no updates on the board?

Key points from my side.

Pool A
Definitely a 3 horse race with Cairns, BBi and Logan

- Cairns downing BBi Gold by 18pts. Is going to make BBi road a little bit tougher from here on in. Garret and another player left during the game, whilst Demertze carved up
- Makes the BBI v Logan game vital for both teams along with Cairns v Logan both today at 12.30 and 5.00 respectively

Pool B
Maroochy, Gold Coast and an inconsistent Townsville are vying for the semi spots in this pool
-Maroochy getting it done comfortably over Townsville on day 1, but then Townsville turned around and smashed Gold Coast that afternoon.
-Makes Maroochy v Gold Coast a must win for Gold Coast

Finishing ontop in pool b may set up a semi against BBI. Maybe just maybe be an advantage to finish 2nd in your pool

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LOL too true No.55 :) Good team I am sure, but it will be life or death clashes in the pool rounds. Right from the kick off, drop a game and you could be GOOOONNEE! Top 2 of each pool make div 2, the rest div 3! No room for error. SW Metro will be tough to beat in pool B. Noosa and GC should be on top of the C & D pools.

Darkhorses in every pool, Suns in A, Bundaberg in B, Logan Storm in C, SW Purple in D. May see a few shocks in Div 3........ And a few suprises in Div 2.

For me Div 2 final Redlands/Townsville v Noosa/SW Metro. (prepared to eat my words lol)

I would love to see Redlands Red and White in div2 or take out both divisions.

Any one else got a prediction for Div 2 winner? Div 3 winner?

Last time I checked his was the U18 PREMIER Leauge Forum, so yes, who cares...

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Who was the GC kid that got f*cking monstered by Max (M'Dore), dunk of the tournament right there.

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Did the comp get any better on day 2? What I saw of it yesterday was pretty underwhelming.

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Who was the GC kid that got f*cking monstered by Max (M'Dore), dunk of the tournament right there.

Who cares gold coast won the game and rattled the invisables.

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Who cares gold coast won the game and rattled the invisables.

what are "invisables"; are they like the Phantom and invisible or maybe invincible?

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Did the comp get any better on day 2? What I saw of it yesterday was pretty underwhelming.


You're a ref right, so that comment was on their/your preformance? If it is; I agree.

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You're a ref right, so that comment was on their/your preformance? If it is; I agree.

Agree. The 3 ref system is a farce. Tons of infringements missed. Each ref seems to think the other ref is going to make the call. very confusing. Worst referred classics I.ve been to

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Did the comp get any better on day 2? What I saw of it yesterday was pretty underwhelming.
What? Players and the basketball not up to your lofty standards? Expect to see you reffing the NBL or in the States soon then shall we?

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what are "invisables"; are they like the Phantom and invisible or maybe invincible?
Well they certainly arent invincible so maybe they are trying to be invisible at the finals? But isnt that the team that throws games or something? Maybe its just a cunning plan?

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What? Players and the basketball not up to your lofty standards? Expect to see you reffing the NBL or in the States soon then shall we?
You're right, I probably shouldn't assume you can all mind read :)

What I meant was that in the last 10 years or so of going to these things, the standard of games I got to see on the first day seemed lower than normal to me compared to previous carnivals. It felt like there was two or three dominant teams in the mens, but tapered off after that - Compared to previous years I've seen where there's been the one or two teams to beat, but there wasn't much seperating the next 4-5 teams.

Was simply a question followed by an opinion, so please accept my humble apologies if I've offended you in any way.

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U18 Mens Final - Maroochydore Clipper 67 def. Townsville Heat 45.
C.Jullirat drops 22 for the dore to pick up player of the final honors.

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Interesting the way things pan out.

1. Maroochy smashing BBI this morning in the semi. Definitely the Seth Turner show whilst BBi couldn't hit a shot
2. Norton single handedly owned Cairns (dropping 50 odd on them)
3. 4 out of top 6 were from Pool B (for that matter 6 out of 10)
4. Most improved team looks like BBI Silver ending up in 9th.
5. Maroochy deservedly winning State. Well done Warwick and co.

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U18 Mens Final - Maroochydore Clipper 67 def. Townsville Heat 45.
C.Jullirat drops 22 for the dore to pick up player of the final honors.

Dominant game by The Dore. S.Cabrera player of the game for my liking, 11pts. & 15+ boards, dominant force defensively and cleaned up the offensive boards. With him & Max on the floor m'dore were very imposing inside.

Unfortunate for T'ville, they played hard but were out classed tonight.

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Who cares gold coast won the game and rattled the invisables.

Dont think they were rattled until they found out they neede to lose by 1 more point to play Cairns instead of Brisbane in the semi, Whoops

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U18 Mens Final - Maroochydore Clipper 67 def. Townsville Heat 45.
C.Jullirat drops 22 for the dore to pick up player of the final honors.
Great game by Cam and the whole team, Sam Cabrera was my player of the game for his defence, he dominated the keyway

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Pool A
Brisbane (easily undefeated)
Logan (will pull away from Cairns down the stretch)
Cairns
Mackay
Northside
Ipswich

Pool B
Maroochydore (tough pool win vs Tville)
Townsville (will get GC in tough game)
Gold Coast
Southern Districts
Runaway Bay
Brisbane Silver

Brisbane to beat Townsville in a close one (if Brisbane can get infront early)
Maroochydore to smash Logan (to many mental scares vs Mdore for Logan to overcome)

Brisbane to beat Maroochyore in a final that could go either way - something just tells me the gap keeps getting smaller and smaller and BC is full of confidence after Nationals and they may ride his efforts to a back to back title.

Just some thoughts wonder how close I will go?

Reflecting on the classics just passed.... almost accurate predictions in pool B, with the exception that Townsville gave Gold Coast a surprisingly dominating second half. However Gold Coast did redeem themselves in the Maroochy game, they were just unlucky that percentages didnt fall in their favour. Maroochy strong all tournament, definately deserved to win.

Pool A, a little surprise came when Cairns got the better of Brisbane, leaving the door open for all three of Cairns, Logan and Brisbane to clinch a playoff spot. Brisbane dominated a slow to react Logan defence with a perfect outside percentage followed by a "big" onslaught inside. Logan got up on Cairns in the first quarter by 10 and second by 15, needing a 17 point win to gain a playoff spot, but a combination of poor refereeing and bad attitudes that we have seen all season from logan resulted in an easy 20 point comeback win from Cairns in the second half. And though neither Cairns nor Brisbane made grand finals, Brisbane got their chance to redeem themselves in the Bronze playoff

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If the gap between bris and mdore was closing it just blew out to 4o points (in the 1st half) WOW

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Epic Fail of a tournament BQ.

Seven games in three days is just too much.

Hence why the finals were so flat.

Can someone please agree with me here they need to re-think 18s Classics date and length for next year?

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Exactly, I agree the Classics needs to be longer next year.

And also who were some good players from div 2?

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Epic Fail of a tournament BQ.

Seven games in three days is just too much.

Hence why the finals were so flat.

Can someone please agree with me here they need to re-think 18s Classics date and length for next year?


Agreed , how can you run your State Championships after your State teams have already played in Nationals ?
Would the selections have been any different based on form at Classics and does having them after Nationals provide less incentive to perform ?

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It was a brutal nightmare. It was dangerous to the players being so fatigued. 3 minute warmups was criminal and dangerous, nowhere to adequately prepare before game, the wrong 3 point line and no warning for players to practise the longer distance, which is not even an official measurement. 7.30 am semis for the girls, too long a wait after premiere league to be prepared, school regional tournaments in a couple weeks with training for both events overlapping
National camps on at the same time with the best girls away and missing the entire thing and the boys during the week before adding to the fatigue factor.
no chance of impressing the state selectors. Both teams in the final absolutely exhausted
No time to enjoy other games. Huge amount of stress for coaching and support staff Another series of completely insane decisions from BQ.
However venue staff and organisers were very efficient, pleasant and helpful at all times in my experience.
The reffereeing was of an exceptionally high standard

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Well they certainly arent invincible so maybe they are trying to be invisible at the finals? But isnt that the team that throws games or something? Maybe its just a cunning plan?

They could not miss the semis and used that game to work on stuff and then raise BBI s hopes and let get over confidant. It worked perfectly. Sorry Goldy if you thought you actually won that game, Wouldn't have said anything except fpr the rude GC supporters who were over the top

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Have to add to that one of the most superb coaching efforts I have seen
Under awful conditions a completely dominant display by the Maroochydore team

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Agreed , how can you run your State Championships after your State teams have already played in Nationals ?
Would the selections have been any different based on form at Classics and does having them after Nationals provide less incentive to perform ?

Cory Mcgill would be starting point guard for Sth Qld

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Can somebody answer my question, who was good from Div 2?

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Cory Mcgill would be starting point guard for Sth Qld

Nope, off the bench for BC. He can't defend. And wouldn't nearly score as much against proper defence.

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Final placings as follows

u18 Boys (don't think i missed anyone)

1. Maroochydore Clippers
2. Townsville Heat
3. BBI Capitals
4. Cairns Marlins
5. Gold Coast Waves
6. Runaway Bay Sea hawks
7. Mackay Meteors
8. Logan Thunder
9. BBI Silver
10. Southern Districts Spartans
11. Ipswich Force
12. Northside Wizards

13. South West Metro
14. Noosa Cyclones
15. Townsville lightning
16. South West Purple
17. Gold Coast Rollers
18. Caboolture Suns
19. Redlands PCYC
20. Logan Storm

21. Mackay Comets
22. Northside Wizards 2
23.Rockhampton
24. Gladstone Power
25. Redlands White
26. Runaway Bay Seahawks 2
27 Mulgrave Magic
28 Maroochydore 2
29 Bundabrg Bulls
30. Gold Coast Rollers

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The reffereeing was of an exceptionally high standard


haha sorry Can't agree with you there.

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It was a brutal nightmare. It was dangerous to the players being so fatigued. 3 minute warmups was criminal and dangerous, nowhere to adequately prepare before game, the wrong 3 point line and no warning for players to practise the longer distance, which is not even an official measurement. 7.30 am semis for the girls, too long a wait after premiere league to be prepared, school regional tournaments in a couple weeks with training for both events overlapping
National camps on at the same time with the best girls away and missing the entire thing and the boys during the week before adding to the fatigue factor.
no chance of impressing the state selectors. Both teams in the final absolutely exhausted
No time to enjoy other games. Huge amount of stress for coaching and support staff Another series of completely insane decisions from BQ.
However venue staff and organisers were very efficient, pleasant and helpful at all times in my experience.
The reffereeing was of an exceptionally high standard
Well said impossible ask to run into the court area put your gear away and get on the court and warm up and that is after the other team that has just played has managed to do the same as you, except run out in the other direction. What are you thinking BQ? These palayers are human beings not robots and this was just too big an ask and as mentioned it was dangerous. Why did BQ ask for everyones opinion on the 3 day tournament and then when the majority voted for the late January tournament BQ totally ignored the majority and went with this ridiculous 3 day option. Learn from this and do not do it again as it was totally unrealistic and hard on all involved, players, coaches, managers and support staff. Get Real!!
One positive comment was the venue for the Div 1 it was awesome and immaculate throughout. Very lucky to have those facilities but overall experience spoilt by the rushing in and out.

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Well said impossible ask to run into the court area put your gear away and get on the court and warm up and that is after the other team that has just played has managed to do the same as you, except run out in the other direction. What are you thinking BQ? These palayers are human beings not robots and this was just too big an ask and as mentioned it was dangerous. Why did BQ ask for everyones opinion on the 3 day tournament and then when the majority voted for the late January tournament BQ totally ignored the majority and went with this ridiculous 3 day option. Learn from this and do not do it again as it was totally unrealistic and hard on all involved, players, coaches, managers and support staff. Get Real!!
One positive comment was the venue for the Div 1 it was awesome and immaculate throughout. Very lucky to have those facilities but overall experience spoilt by the rushing in and out.

Fucking Greame Burns he doesn't give a flying fuck as long as BQ is raking in the cash. Just like the team nomination fees practically the same as a 5 day classics, except its only 3 days. Why not deduct the 35% from the fees to save parents a few $$$$. BQ sure needs a shake up in administration and the sooner Burns goes the better.

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Just a question on the nomination fee thing. Didn't teams play same number of games in 3 days as they did in 5 at other classics like 14s or 16s? so they only difference is the 2 days entry maybe? don't know but i'd guess they were charging entry per team?

Totally agree with earlier post about the end of January being best time to hold 18s...

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what are the percentages of top and bottom agers for this season in the top 12 teams. I think BBI silver has all bottom age players and NS too. What about SD, Ippy and the other top teams??


Final placings as follows

u18 Boys (don't think i missed anyone)

1. Maroochydore Clippers
2. Townsville Heat
3. BBI Capitals
4. Cairns Marlins
5. Gold Coast Waves
6. Runaway Bay Sea hawks
7. Mackay Meteors
8. Logan Thunder
9. BBI Silver
10. Southern Districts Spartans
11. Ipswich Force
12. Northside Wizards

13. South West Metro
14. Noosa Cyclones
15. Townsville lightning
16. South West Purple
17. Gold Coast Rollers
18. Caboolture Suns
19. Redlands PCYC
20. Logan Storm

21. Mackay Comets
22. Northside Wizards 2
23.Rockhampton
24. Gladstone Power
25. Redlands White
26. Runaway Bay Seahawks 2
27 Mulgrave Magic
28 Maroochydore 2
29 Bundabrg Bulls
30. Gold Coast Rollers

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Agreed , how can you run your State Championships after your State teams have already played in Nationals ?
Would the selections have been any different based on form at Classics and does having them after Nationals provide less incentive to perform ?

Does anyone want to make a prediction on a state team based on classics performance? Like an honourary state team? Make it north and south combined, 15 classics performers. 3 of each: point guards, shooting guards, small forwards, power forwards and centers. any suggestions?

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Epic Fail of a tournament BQ.

Seven games in three days is just too much.

Hence why the finals were so flat.

Can someone please agree with me here they need to re-think 18s Classics date and length for next year?

Totally agree with this comment,most teams by the 3rd game on the one day are feeling quite fatigued. How ripped off would the Gold Coast feel only to lose 1 game in the whole tournament and finish 5th and the only team to beat Maroochydore(mind you they deserved to win have been the dominate force all year.Well done guys on a brilliant season )

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They could not miss the semis and used that game to work on stuff and then raise BBI s hopes and let get over confidant. It worked perfectly. Sorry Goldy if you thought you actually won that game, Wouldn't have said anything except fpr the rude GC supporters who were over the top

Who was being rude,I am not from the GC,I was a interested bystander wanting to watch the best team in the competition play.It is not like maroochydore would have purposely thrown that game as far as I saw they didn't give up they were still trying to win that game,why wouldn't they have wanted to go through undefeated.It was good to see 2 teams having a real good go,they looked like they were having fun.

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You are right it was only a few who were setting a poor example. Apologies. It is true that mdore were safe and could control who they faced in the semi if they wanted. Had they lost by 8 instead of 7 they would have faced Cairns
They used the whole game to get ready for the semi resting starters and practising plays and d's
Tantalising position to be in If it was better for you to lose to get a better match up would or should you do it? for me its a no brainer

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where will classics be next year?
does anybody know,, maybe away like in Townsville hopefully

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This year is going to be the best i am already excited about being top age
cant wait for the season

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Cory Mcgill would be starting point guard for Sth Qld

My team would be
cory
cam
seth
Sam
Max
Aaron
Doug all from Mdore
Garret
BC
plus 1 other big

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I think I like that team They are by far the best guard lineup and Doug and Aaron filled the forward spots during prem league while the team was regularly winning by 40 points. Sam and Max proved to be a potent defensive unit and dominated the Dboards while sam was the best offensive big by the end as well
This team with the two Brisbane guards would be Dynamic

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The defence by Maroochydore was impenetrable in the final. Townsville averaged 11 points per quarter. I saw them play townsville in the rounds Bris in the semi and tv in the final. I think this was yhe best defensive team I have ever seen in the rep competition

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Teams sitting in 2-3 zones and teaching kids no accountability of defense is not great defense. They were a good team and deserved to win it but please dont credit any of those teams who sat in zone all carnival with being great defensively.

That final was the most boring 90mins of my life - partly due to fatigue but mainly due to the zone defense.

The few times that Queensland has won medals on the National stage what has their primary defensive structure been? Not a pathetic 2-3 zone.

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Maroochydore like most teams played zone whenever they could just to save energy but they played lockdown man to man in the semi and backed it up with an even better lockdown Zone in the final, Last 2 classics they played man every game when they had more recovery time

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That statement is not true. Lot of zone 2 years ago and even more this year, not a problem, it was effective and they won easily. But dont talk a team up defensively when they clog it up in a zone and rely on poor shooting on an extended 3 point line that teams had not practiced on.

Smart move if all you want to do is win but no way you can call it great defense.

I would probably focus more on their toughness and cohesiveness as a group with defined roles - that was impressive, not their zone defense.

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Teams sitting in 2-3 zones and teaching kids no accountability of defense is not great defense. They were a good team and deserved to win it but please dont credit any of those teams who sat in zone all carnival with being great defensively.

That final was the most boring 90mins of my life - partly due to fatigue but mainly due to the zone defense.

The few times that Queensland has won medals on the National stage what has their primary defensive structure been? Not a pathetic 2-3 zone.
It takes as much skill (possibly more in some ways) to play a zone properly as a man2man. Theres plenty of accountability in executing a zone properly. Saw Baylor halt St Marys run at the sweet 16 this year with a zone and Syracuse played all year and deep into the tournament with a zone. Conversely it takes a good offensive team to beat a zone and force them to take it off. Its about whatever works to win a game and if the offense cant handle a zone then they arent good enough to win it.

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That statement is not true. Lot of zone 2 years ago and even more this year, not a problem, it was effective and they won easily. But dont talk a team up defensively when they clog it up in a zone and rely on poor shooting on an extended 3 point line that teams had not practiced on.

Smart move if all you want to do is win but no way you can call it great defense.

I would probably focus more on their toughness and cohesiveness as a group with defined roles - that was impressive, not their zone defense.

Lots of teams were sitting in zones. The stadium is nice but the hoops are horrible to shoot on. I took my son out their several times prior to the championships and figured it out. Most coaches would have figured it out 5 mins into the first game.

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As I said - smart move if all you want to do is win.

Problem is we seem to have 10 or 11 out of the 12 teams in Division 1 only wanting to win. Be honest the zones at classics are terrible - dont try and compare NCAA zones to those at classics or you will basically embarass yourself. Those zones you mention particularly Syracuse are active rotating zones with players committing to long and short X rotations. The ones at classics were all stationary with the occassional bump off the ball - designed to clog it up and force perimeter offense - minimal to no accountability. Like I said smart if you are trying to win a junior tournament, but not great if you are trying to develop players for ABA or higher. Shouldn't that also be a goal of these tournaments.
Funny how many of the players from those zone orientated NCAA programs often have question marks on them coming out into the NBA or pro's because they have never had to play man to man and be trully accountable on defense. Luckily great players will always shine through (Carmelo from Syracuse an example).

It is just very sad to see so many teams especially those with immense individual talent not letting it develop in all facets of the game.

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Maroochydore Never played a zone ever until they saw the schedule for classics. From then on they swithed because you would simply wear out playing man evey game in a 3 day classics.it just turned out that though they were very good at man they were brilliant at zone all year and it got better
In contrast top age 16 and 18 Tville zoned every game start to finish bu they coudn't play against it
Dont blame the coaches blame the draw

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Maroochydore Never played a zone ever until they saw the schedule for classics. From then on they swithed because you would simply wear out playing man evey game in a 3 day classics.it just turned out that though they were very good at man they were brilliant at zone all year and it got better
In contrast top age 16 and 18 Tville zoned every game start to finish bu they coudn't play against it
Dont blame the coaches blame the draw

So Warrick must have seen the draw in October then? MDore played a lot of zone all season long, saying they didn't is a lie. Waz does whatever he needs to do to win, and there is nothing wrong with that.

I must say the preformance in the GC game would have earnt him an Oscar nomination for best director, not sure how he hadn't worked out it was 8 points and not 7 thou? The thing is there was no need to do any of that stuff, he clearly had the fittest side. Four state players was more than enough to get the job done with out all the theathrics.

Totally agree with everyones comments about the brutal format. I know for a fact that quite a few clubs preffered the January time slot. Personally I felt if not January then finish the season with no Classics and at the end of PL and TON. That was never an option as Classics are BQ's biggest revenue raiser and it was always going to be played for that reason only.

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So Warrick must have seen the draw in October then? MDore played a lot of zone all season long, saying they didn't is a lie. Waz does whatever he needs to do to win, and there is nothing wrong with that.

I must say the preformance in the GC game would have earnt him an Oscar nomination for best director, not sure how he hadn't worked out it was 8 points and not 7 thou? The thing is there was no need to do any of that stuff, he clearly had the fittest side. Four state players was more than enough to get the job done with out all the theathrics.

Totally agree with everyones comments about the brutal format. I know for a fact that quite a few clubs preffered the January time slot. Personally I felt if not January then finish the season with no Classics and at the end of PL and TON. That was never an option as Classics are BQ's biggest revenue raiser and it was always going to be played for that reason only.

Isn't that why they got rid of the regional challenge a few years ago? I was so dissapointed about that. It was a chance for local rep teams to combine and show off their best players, as well as giving the state selectors a better opportunity to make selections.

Now they are rushed to one trial with no possible classics input because of the way the season is planned and because of the fact that Basketball Australia had to change the Nationals dates to April

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Teams sitting in 2-3 zones and teaching kids no accountability of defense is not great defense. They were a good team and deserved to win it but please dont credit any of those teams who sat in zone all carnival with being great defensively.

That final was the most boring 90mins of my life - partly due to fatigue but mainly due to the zone defense.

The few times that Queensland has won medals on the National stage what has their primary defensive structure been? Not a pathetic 2-3 zone.

Maybe you are a parent from team that was not good enough to make the finals. Warwick has worked on the shutdown zone all season to great effect. Yes fatigue played a part but i think that a lot of people with any basketball savvy would have realised why they played a zone.
It is just a pity that there a so much negativity on this site , rather than positive comments.
Maroochydore players and their coaching staff should be congratulated on their victory. They have been the benchmark since under 12's and nobody has been able to reach them. Bring on the under 20's and we will see this team go to the next level.
Maybe the coaching staff and players from the other clubs need to have a good look at themselves and ask why teams with more talent ( and egos) cannot win.

Have a nice day and keep reading you basketball coaching manual or better still come to one of Warwicks training sessions. What a great Queensland under 20 coach he would be.

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Have a nice day and keep reading you basketball coaching manual or better still come to one of Warwicks training sessions. What a great Queensland under 20 coach he would be.
Better than Froling, Hicks, Conlon, Fawcett?

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Don't think you'll see these teams in under 20 s as kids will leave home get jobs go to college etc It s been a hell of a journey. The saddest thing for me was not having time to watch other games and see the great plays the knockout matchups in the pools etc. Our pool was so tough you had to play full on to win every game and all teams were in with a shot
So many highlights funny bits and stupid plays (fatigue is a good excuse) I would love to hear about some of what happened to others and even memorable events from previous classics.
Many players having competed from day 1
a couple for me, Max's dunk V Goldy, Mitch's 51 in the semi, Mdores 1st half v Bris
Switching to a man in that semi, Cairns win over Bris, Cairns great comeback in their semi, Logans 1st half v Cairns. Cairns second half v Logan, Brisbane silvers strong performance, We were pissed after that game having burnt way more energy than we wanted to get the win. There were so many tough games the blonde kid from Rbay shot the lights out against us etc etc Rbay coach being ejected, (only for being loud no abuse involved) was funny though

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Better than Froling, Hicks, Conlon, Fawcett?

How did they go this year

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How did they go this year

3rd at nationals is pretty good.

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Wild guess full state team
Cory
Cam
Seth
Mitch
Garret
BC
Sam
Max
Stybross-or Kelly
1 other mobile big
In that situation Waz would be an interesting choice He has a core of Quality players the others simply have to slot into a system thats already up and running
No disrespect to the others. Shane froling has a proven record just food for thought

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Just heard Dale Ryan had a $50 bet with Max that Mdore would not win Classics
Time to pay up Dale. That must have hurt watching the boys steamroll brisbane. How wrong can u be Pay up Dale a bet is a bet

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I think I like that team They are by far the best guard lineup and Doug and Aaron filled the forward spots during prem league while the team was regularly winning by 40 points. Sam and Max proved to be a potent defensive unit and dominated the Dboards while sam was the best offensive big by the end as well
This team with the two Brisbane guards would be Dynamic
If you watched all the games you would know that Doug and Aaron were regularly in the starting 5 and they didn't just fill in spots during the league. I agree that Sam grew stronger and stronger by the end of the tournament and was dominant in the defense. Aaron injured?

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Thats one of the amazing things about this team, no matter who was out someone else syepped up and they just kept rolling. As stated Aaron and Doug started the whole premiere league when sam and max were unavailable, and did such a good job Sam and Max were coming off the bench at classics until Aaron got hurt

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I didn't get to see all the teams, so who played good out of the bottom age boys?

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Brisbane silvers strong performance, We were pissed after that game having burnt way more energy than we wanted to get the win.

Thanks for the compliment Warwick. Was very proud of how the boys played that game (and many others in the tournament). With 7 bottom agers hopefully we are heading in the right direction for next yr

Highlights for me

- Nortons 50pt game in the semi
- Seths first half against BBI in the semi
- BCs dunk over that Ipswich kid
- Silver pushing M'Dore and Townsville, whilst beating Districts & Ipswich

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well done to the Maroochydore boys congrats on your state title

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Wild guess full state team
Cory
Cam
Seth
Mitch
Garret
BC
Sam
Max
Stybross-or Kelly
1 other mobile big
In that situation Waz would be an interesting choice He has a core of Quality players the others simply have to slot into a system thats already up and running
No disrespect to the others. Shane froling has a proven record just food for thought

Good team. Other beek would be Keehan and would have Brady and Aaron in there too. And what about that big from thunder? He was pretty consistent on the Defensive end all tournament from what I saw. He didnt seem to play very much though. Anyone know why?

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Good team. Other beek would be Keehan and would have Brady and Aaron in there too. And what about that big from thunder? He was pretty consistent on the Defensive end all tournament from what I saw. He didnt seem to play very much though. Anyone know why?

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Good team. Other beek would be Keehan and would have Brady and Aaron in there too. And what about that big from thunder? He was pretty consistent on the Defensive end all tournament from what I saw. He didnt seem to play very much though. Anyone know why?

Logan big????? What are you talking about. I would include left handed Bergen, Ben I think. I wouldn't take Max at all he did nothing to impress at all except dunk on a 5'6" kid. Strybos played ok defensively and could be added to the list. Jeremy Kelly far to lazy, after 5 minutes of play walks back in both offense and defense, although played great defense in bursts.

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Good team. Other beek would be Keehan and would have Brady and Aaron in there too. And what about that big from thunder? He was pretty consistent on the Defensive end all tournament from what I saw. He didnt seem to play very much though. Anyone know why?


No way would i include Keehan as a big. Would include Brady for sure, excellent player and worthy of a spot, also agree with last post, Ben Bergen and Strybos should be included on the list.

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Logan big????? What are you talking about. I would include left handed Bergen, Ben I think. I wouldn't take Max at all he did nothing to impress at all except dunk on a 5'6" kid. Strybos played ok defensively and could be added to the list. Jeremy Kelly far to lazy, after 5 minutes of play walks back in both offense and defense, although played great defense in bursts.

Thats Matty. And yea he may be consistent on the defensive end and may have been a decent offensive unit back in 16's but he is undersized now. A 6ft 3 center getting dominated down low by 6'5 Bergen twins and 6'8 guys like J.K., Max and Sam

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Wild guess full state team
Cory
Cam
Seth
Mitch
Garret
BC
Sam
Max
Stybross-or Kelly
1 other mobile big
In that situation Waz would be an interesting choice He has a core of Quality players the others simply have to slot into a system thats already up and running
No disrespect to the others. Shane froling has a proven record just food for thought
No disrespect but in the interests of keeping it real, have any of you guys picking All State 20's teams after watching your kids play 18s Classics, ever been to a 20s Nationals and seen the level of players and coaching? Again no disrespect but I dont see anywhere there, McCarron Wroe Bairstow Gulotta or Ben Wilston who performed so well this year. Apart from Seth and Garrett the rest of the names there would not be considered "quality players" at National U20 level. The Maroochy side are a good little team in Qld and due their long time playing together consistently find ways to win against their less cohesive opponents. But to suggest they would go to Nationals as a core group playing what is basically street ball by National standards is merely a figment of your post Classics euphoria.

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No disrespect but in the interests of keeping it real, have any of you guys picking All State 20's teams after watching your kids play 18s Classics, ever been to a 20s Nationals and seen the level of players and coaching? Again no disrespect but I dont see anywhere there, McCarron Wroe Bairstow Gulotta or Ben Wilston who performed so well this year. Apart from Seth and Garrett the rest of the names there would not be considered "quality players" at National U20 level. The Maroochy side are a good little team in Qld and due their long time playing together consistently find ways to win against their less cohesive opponents. But to suggest they would go to Nationals as a core group playing what is basically street ball by National standards is merely a figment of your post Classics euphoria.

Well mr keep it real... Gulotta and Wilson? What the hell? Agree with the earlier ones. Those two guys are in the same league as most of those names and are outplayed by some.

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Well mr keep it real... Gulotta and Wilson? What the hell? Agree with the earlier ones. Those two guys are in the same league as most of those names and are outplayed by some.
Whatever. They been there and got it done to the satisfaction of their coaches. (Pretty experienced coaches at that) Maybe you know better and more. Rejoice in your Classics achievement but for sake of credibility keep an eye on the bigger picture.

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Logan big????? What are you talking about. I would include left handed Bergen, Ben I think. I wouldn't take Max at all he did nothing to impress at all except dunk on a 5'6" kid. Strybos played ok defensively and could be added to the list. Jeremy Kelly far to lazy, after 5 minutes of play walks back in both offense and defense, although played great defense in bursts.

The right handed Bergen also played pretty well at classics would almost have to slot him in there somewhere but no opinions matter the Nationals has already been

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No disrespect but in the interests of keeping it real, have any of you guys picking All State 20's teams after watching your kids play 18s Classics, ever been to a 20s Nationals and seen the level of players and coaching? Again no disrespect but I dont see anywhere there, McCarron Wroe Bairstow Gulotta or Ben Wilston who performed so well this year. Apart from Seth and Garrett the rest of the names there would not be considered "quality players" at National U20 level. The Maroochy side are a good little team in Qld and due their long time playing together consistently find ways to win against their less cohesive opponents. But to suggest they would go to Nationals as a core group playing what is basically street ball by National standards is merely a figment of your post Classics euphoria.

It is obvious they are talking about a top age team. but throw your insults around from your little "only we know about Nationals club" You were never good enough to play at nationals but somehow you know better than anyone else

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It is obvious they are talking about a top age team. but throw your insults around from your little "only we know about Nationals club" You were never good enough to play at nationals but somehow you know better than anyone else
What a nasty bitch!! Must a struck a raw nerve with the fuckwit.

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No disrespect but in the interests of keeping it real, have any of you guys picking All State 20's teams after watching your kids play 18s Classics, ever been to a 20s Nationals and seen the level of players and coaching? Again no disrespect but I dont see anywhere there, McCarron Wroe Bairstow Gulotta or Ben Wilston who performed so well this year. Apart from Seth and Garrett the rest of the names there would not be considered "quality players" at National U20 level. The Maroochy side are a good little team in Qld and due their long time playing together consistently find ways to win against their less cohesive opponents. But to suggest they would go to Nationals as a core group playing what is basically street ball by National standards is merely a figment of your post Classics euphoria.

Gullota? That kids a joke. Only reason he makes teams is his mommy whining to the coaches.

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No disrespect but in the interests of keeping it real, have any of you guys picking All State 20's teams after watching your kids play 18s Classics, ever been to a 20s Nationals and seen the level of players and coaching? Again no disrespect but I dont see anywhere there, McCarron Wroe Bairstow Gulotta or Ben Wilston who performed so well this year. Apart from Seth and Garrett the rest of the names there would not be considered "quality players" at National U20 level. The Maroochy side are a good little team in Qld and due their long time playing together consistently find ways to win against their less cohesive opponents. But to suggest they would go to Nationals as a core group playing what is basically street ball by National standards is merely a figment of your post Classics euphoria.

No dsrespect he says and then disrespects everyone Obviously you weren't at classics or you would add Mitch Norton and Probably Sam Cabrera to that list.
Interesting comparisons though with Mccarron and Wroe and co winning Classics last year undefeated but just winning in finals where Mdore dropped 2 games during the year but peaked in time to dominate the finals leading by 40 in yhe semi and 30 in yhe final
There is a good argument that this is the best junior team ever in QLD having won all 4. Any other teams achieved that or any other outstanding teams that dominated a classics

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No dsrespect he says and then disrespects everyone Obviously you weren't at classics or you would add Mitch Norton and Probably Sam Cabrera to that list.
Interesting comparisons though with Mccarron and Wroe and co winning Classics last year undefeated but just winning in finals where Mdore dropped 2 games during the year but peaked in time to dominate the finals leading by 40 in yhe semi and 30 in yhe final
There is a good argument that this is the best junior team ever in QLD having won all 4. Any other teams achieved that or any other outstanding teams that dominated a classics
Dont think there was ever any doubt about the supremacy of this years U/18 Maroochy team and their dominance of 4 consecutive top age years. Was no comment about the ability of Mitch Norton. Would venture that Cabrera might need to speed up or grow some more to be as dominant as a bottom ager at National 20's level but again just an opinion. Didnt mean to offend anyone. You have obviously attended the last 4 or 5 U/20 Nationals and simply came away with a different opinion than mine of the standards required and insights you gained from your scouting and networking with the coaches at that level. Different viewpoints simple. The comments were nothing to do with the u/18 classics and totally understand your post classics euphoria but just found the assertion that the Maroochy coach should take this years u/18 maroochy side to Nationals with him as coach and them as the core of the QLD all state team a little bit far fetched. Just that theres already a few players that have runs on the board and a pretty experienced coaching team in place that has had the experience and knowledge of the u/20s tournament and who is who in the zoo player wise from other states. Who knows, they might all not apply this year, fully realising that the Maroochy coach is the undisputed most experienced and best person for the job and they might overlook the other coaches and players in favour of his beer buddies and parents as assistants. Who knows? Anything could happen and your dreams could be realised. Have a nice day.

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No dsrespect he says and then disrespects everyone Obviously you weren't at classics or you would add Mitch Norton and Probably Sam Cabrera to that list.
Interesting comparisons though with Mccarron and Wroe and co winning Classics last year undefeated but just winning in finals where Mdore dropped 2 games during the year but peaked in time to dominate the finals leading by 40 in yhe semi and 30 in yhe final
There is a good argument that this is the best junior team ever in QLD having won all 4. Any other teams achieved that or any other outstanding teams that dominated a classics

Waz and his boys have done a fantasic job, but you have obviously not been around too long. A couple of years back (4-5) Mikey Aherns, Tommy Lidstone, Jared Pickering and others from Brisbane went 95 from 98 rep game wins including 4 top age state championship wins during their junior rep careers. That against the might of Sth Districts, thru the glory years against Stevie Weigh Rockhampton and could have even been thru touch of Lloyd Lewis Hervey Bay. M/dore have done really well but greatest rep team all time.....I don't think so!

P.S. I am guessing that other comments will come from greater teams than the above mentioned!

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Positions 1-5 for Brisbane are better than Maroochydore and Brisbane definitely has a stronger bench. Massive call mate. We'll see. When does Brisbane play Maroochydore?

4 times 4 wins last one by 40

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4 times 4 wins last one by 40

They were right about the Brisbane players being more skilled. Just can't play as a team like Maroocydore did.

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They were right about the Brisbane players being more skilled. Just can't play as a team like Maroocydore did.

Brisbane can still play as a team though, and might even be stronger than the Maroochy side. Especially looking at Garrets game in comparison to top age 16s, hes making a larger percentage of his shots now, taking better shots, and hes making good passes to teammates (Something I thought would never happen.) I think Garret was the best player there in the tournament, and he was the player I was most impressed with. But the Chemistry between the Maroochy players and the leadership that Seth brings to the table game after game cant be matched. Seth has always been an amazing player and he never ceases to amaze. I think its fair to say Garret is a better player, but Seth knows how to rally his team better than anyone, especially with the boys hes been playing with for a long time. In the end it makes the difference and it shouldnt come as a surprise that Maroochydore beat brisbane every game.

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Brisbane can still play as a team though, and might even be stronger than the Maroochy side. Especially looking at Garrets game in comparison to top age 16s, hes making a larger percentage of his shots now, taking better shots, and hes making good passes to teammates (Something I thought would never happen.) I think Garret was the best player there in the tournament, and he was the player I was most impressed with. But the Chemistry between the Maroochy players and the leadership that Seth brings to the table game after game cant be matched. Seth has always been an amazing player and he never ceases to amaze. I think its fair to say Garret is a better player, but Seth knows how to rally his team better than anyone, especially with the boys hes been playing with for a long time. In the end it makes the difference and it shouldnt come as a surprise that Maroochydore beat brisbane every game.

I think the coaches may also be a fair difference between both teams. Waz vs KB, I know which one I would prefer.

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I think the coaches may also be a fair difference between both teams. Waz vs KB, I know which one I would prefer.

Who cares what you think?

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The Maroochydore boys just completed the double by beating Met East in the final of the queensland state championship by 40 points. with 4 boys making the state team to attend Nationals
It was a fabulous display of high qualityskill teamwork great to see Congratulations

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The Maroochydore boys just completed the double by beating Met East in the final of the queensland state championship by 40 points. with 4 boys making the state team to attend Nationals
It was a fabulous display of high qualityskill teamwork great to see Congratulations
So does that mean Mark Hauser is as good a coach as Warwick Meehl? (State champions by 40 points and all?)

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So does that mean Mark Hauser is as good a coach as Warwick Meehl? (State champions by 40 points and all?)
In a word "NO" The boys basically won this themselves. Warwick and Mark worlds apart.

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In a word "NO" The boys basically won this themselves. Warwick and Mark worlds apart.
So they didnt win classics by themselves, Warwick won it for them, but they won this one by themselves and Mark had nothing to do with it? Thanks for clarifying. In what ways are they worlds apart?

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watched both the state classics and school boys and that Marrochy Zone is a tough nut to crack. To say their sitting in a zone is not to watch how quickly they move in it. I think the thing that makes zone so successful is that no one is teaching quick movement of the ball. we're all doing catch and square up and its just too slow. the top teams should at least be getting uncontested 3s against this zone but their not. Its not like your suprised to see them playing zone, the suprise is wheres the offence to beat it.

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So does that mean Mark Hauser is as good a coach as Warwick Meehl? (State champions by 40 points and all?)

It is SCHOOL ball, let's not forget this.

Mark Hauser is a good coach, unlike a lot of the other teachers that attempt to coach.

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watched both the state classics and school boys and that Marrochy Zone is a tough nut to crack. To say their sitting in a zone is not to watch how quickly they move in it. I think the thing that makes zone so successful is that no one is teaching quick movement of the ball. we're all doing catch and square up and its just too slow. the top teams should at least be getting uncontested 3s against this zone but their not. Its not like your suprised to see them playing zone, the suprise is wheres the offence to beat it.

You are right it is an exceptionally well executed Zone. The team do exactly what you said against a nzone and do get open 3's whenever they want as well as penetration- and post action

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Better than Froling, Hicks, Conlon, Fawcett?

As good as Froling but no cotest with the othr two. The difference is warwick can win with less talent. These guys need superior talent to win

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As good as Froling Thats awesome! So Warwick will be in strong demand for National teams and AIS camps not to mention Qld teams and QAS.

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As good as Froling but no cotest with the othr two. The difference is warwick can win with less talent. These guys need superior talent to win
Very confused. Thought someone said earlier the Maroochy boys were exceptional talents who have won 4 consecutive top age years since U/12s as well as the State schools (with a coach that is worlds apart from Warwick) just last week??. Have to agree about those other coaches but. None of them have ever won anything with teams they coached.

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have to as the question how many practices did sun coast have before school boys turny. met east had 1 1/2 sessons ( 4 boys turned up to one practice). so wouldn't say that coach had much impact. realy more of start them up and stand back