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03-08-09, 17:40
When does the season start? The teams to beat will be caps and possibly GC.
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03-08-09, 17:46
When does the season start? The teams to beat will be caps and possibly GC.
Why ? have the teams been picked already. Do you know whos playing?
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03-08-09, 18:58
Why ? have the teams been picked already. Do you know whos playing?
Not as far as I know. Just going by the talent in the area. Last season GC seemed to have a bunch of players stepping up. Brisbane are consistently good. If Carroll is right to play by when season starts then they should have a strong team. Him and Chia at point. Shreibner playing everywhere, bergens and JK in the middle.
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03-08-09, 19:52
Any player movements?
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04-08-09, 09:55
Mdore to be in 2nd div again this year Ha Ha
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04-08-09, 10:00
Mdore to be in 2nd div again this year Ha Ha
unlikely, that team is stacked!
I think spartans, bbi, GC and maroochy will be tough. Logan and Northside are a young group.
not sure where Ippy, Coastal and SW have....
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05-08-09, 00:21
who do northside have
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05-08-09, 07:39
unlikely, that team is stacked!
I think spartans, bbi, GC and maroochy will be tough. Logan and Northside are a young group.
not sure where Ippy, Coastal and SW have....
Brisbane will be tuff, BC, Garret, Nicky, Kelly, Bergan twins a few more up from U16's. Not lookin to bad. Who's coachin?
who do northside have
Trials are on 23rd and 30th of August, will have a good idea of who will be in each of our 2 teams a few days after the 30th of Aug.
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05-08-09, 10:41
Trials are on 23rd and 30th of August, will have a good idea of who will be in each of our 2 teams a few days after the 30th of Aug.
may you post them on here
may you post them on here
yeah ill post em....
23rd August and 30th of August - 2:30pm-4pm at South Pine Sports Complex Brendale
2nd of Sept - Teams released
4th of Sept - 6th of Sept - 3 day camp for those who make the team/s
Inclusions this year will be :
End of season trip - June long weekend 2010 - Melbourne Classic
December 2010 trip for U18 teams - USA
The Future
05-08-09, 13:29
Brisbane versus Maroochydore in boys with Townsville a long way third. The rest will not matter.
Brisbane versus Maroochydore in boys with Townsville a long way third. The rest will not matter.
spartans will be good right?
anyways, while you can see the classics future, would you be able to tell me the future 2010 NBA champion? I wouldn't mnd throwing a few $$ on sportsbet :)
lakers, magic, celtic, cavs, spurs?
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05-08-09, 14:05
Brisbane versus Maroochydore in boys with Townsville a long way third. The rest will not matter.
Maroochydore in the final, pfftttt, please. Who do they have that makes them so special. Sam Cabrea who spends more time on the bench with injury.
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05-08-09, 21:52
spartans will be good right?
anyways, while you can see the classics future, would you be able to tell me the future 2010 NBA champion? I wouldn't mnd throwing a few $$ on sportsbet :)
lakers, magic, celtic, cavs, spurs?
the magic but im bias blue and white ignite
the magic but im bias blue and white ignite
id have to agree wit ya, lewis, howard, carter, nelson - lot of weapons
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05-08-09, 23:24
Maroochydore in the final, pfftttt, please. Who do they have that makes them so special. Sam Cabrea who spends more time on the bench with injury.
I've heard about this Sam kid on here a few times. Seen maroochydore play but never him. How long has it been since the kid has played?
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05-08-09, 23:40
Brisbane will be tuff, BC, Garret, Nicky, Kelly, Bergan twins a few more up from U16's. Not lookin to bad. Who's coachin?
2009 Qld South coach Kerrion Bryne is Caps Coach this year
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06-08-09, 06:30
i heared jamal is back.
is he playin for m'dore
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06-08-09, 08:30
Maroochydore in the final, pfftttt, please. Who do they have that makes them so special. Sam Cabrea who spends more time on the bench with injury.
did the Bergan twins move again?
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06-08-09, 14:53
i heared jamal is back.
is he playin for m'dore
he is back and not playing for the dore
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07-08-09, 09:18
Have BBI had their trials -who made the team
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08-08-09, 11:51
yeah ill post em....
23rd August and 30th of August - 2:30pm-4pm at South Pine Sports Complex Brendale
2nd of Sept - Teams released
4th of Sept - 6th of Sept - 3 day camp for those who make the team/s
Inclusions this year will be :
End of season trip - June long weekend 2010 - Melbourne Classic
December 2010 trip for U18 teams - USA
What's the address for trials?
What's the address for trials?
Redlands have their second tryout tomorrow from 3pm to 5pm at Redlands PCYC, corner Degen and Ney Rds, Capalaba
http://www.redlandspcyc.org.au/Downloads/Rep%20Team%20Try%20out.pdf
All players will need to attend at least 1 of the training sessions or place their reasons for not attending in writing to the Branch Manager. Representative squads will be announced Sat 15th August 2009 on the noticeboard.
While not as sexy as NS's planned shennanigans I do have a few things up my sleeve for Rep 09/10 for whomever is lucky enough to make my squad.
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08-08-09, 20:39
Redlands have their second tryout tomorrow from 3pm to 5pm at Redlands PCYC, corner Degen and Ney Rds, Capalaba
http://www.redlandspcyc.org.au/Downloads/Rep%20Team%20Try%20out.pdf
All players will need to attend at least 1 of the training sessions or place their reasons for not attending in writing to the Branch Manager. Representative squads will be announced Sat 15th August 2009 on the noticeboard.
While not as sexy as NS's planned shennanigans I do have a few things up my sleeve for Rep 09/10 for whomever is lucky enough to make my squad.
Its not all about the shenanigans...its about developing associations and kids.
For those 'lucky enough to make your squad', lets hope there not subjected to the same as the 08/09 squad who frequently were touched up by 50+ points in Premier League
Its not all about the shenanigans...its about developing associations and kids.
For those 'lucky enough to make your squad', lets hope there not subjected to the same as the 08/09 squad who frequently were touched up by 50+ points in Premier League
Yeah yeah whatever, take a chill pill. I was only trying to be funny anyway. What you have planned sounds good.
For what it's worth, that squad was the first one from OUR "developing association" to make PL and they stayed in Div 1 for Classics.
What's the address for trials?
drop me an email on al_waldron@hotmail.com and I will forward you the information page :)
Its not all about the shenanigans...its about developing associations and kids.
For those 'lucky enough to make your squad', lets hope there not subjected to the same as the 08/09 squad who frequently were touched up by 50+ points in Premier League
yeah development is the reason why NS are heading to the states, while its going to be nice to have a white xmas in the states, I do think the level of competition over there will be great as we will be going midway thru the PL season (2010/2011 that is).
as for Redlands, i would rather them get beaten in PL then flog teams in SC, what they are doing is a positive for the club and players and thier players seems to be very happy being apart of the association.
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09-08-09, 11:55
yeah development is the reason why NS are heading to the states, while its going to be nice to have a white xmas in the states, I do think the level of competition over there will be great as we will be going midway thru the PL season (2010/2011 that is).
as for Redlands, i would rather them get beaten in PL then flog teams in SC, what they are doing is a positive for the club and players and thier players seems to be very happy being apart of the association.
At least Redlands, NS & even SD are taking steps to improve their juniors. SOME associations do absolutley nothing during the off season & even restrict what rep players are allowed to do.
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09-08-09, 11:57
yeah development is the reason why NS are heading to the states, while its going to be nice to have a white xmas in the states, I do think the level of competition over there will be great as we will be going midway thru the PL season (2010/2011 that is).
Generally by the time the christmas break rolls around the boys bodies are in desperate need of a break - hope it isn't too much for those developing bodies!
yeah development is the reason why NS are heading to the states, while its going to be nice to have a white xmas in the states, I do think the level of competition over there will be great as we will be going midway thru the PL season (2010/2011 that is).
Generally by the time the christmas break rolls around the boys bodies are in desperate need of a break - hope it isn't too much for those developing bodies!
i hope so too, i will check out and see how athletes that play for qld and aus at this age group cope with the physical nature of it all.
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09-08-09, 17:57
yeah ill post em....
23rd August and 30th of August - 2:30pm-4pm at South Pine Sports Complex Brendale
2nd of Sept - Teams released
4th of Sept - 6th of Sept - 3 day camp for those who make the team/s
Inclusions this year will be :
End of season trip - June long weekend 2010 - Melbourne Classic
December 2010 trip for U18 teams - USA
is the USA trip just for your team
or can any under 18 team tour?
this is the first ive heard about it
is the USA trip just for your team
or can any under 18 team tour?
this is the first ive heard about it
Just my under 18 team
Its not all about the shenanigans...its about developing associations and kids.
For those 'lucky enough to make your squad', lets hope there not subjected to the same as the 08/09 squad who frequently were touched up by 50+ points in Premier League
Well thats news to me touched up by 50+ frequently?
We had 4 shocking games in the season where that was about 50+ or - a few. While its not a good scorline regardless, our points percentage was higher I believe than the 6th and 7th. And we did happen to push all the teams in at least 1 of the 2 games. BBI 5pts, Ippy 6pts, SW 1pt, GC 14pts and our win, Logan 15pts. The teams that smashed us were 3/4 in the comp.
So with only 1 person with PL experience in the team prior to last season to now ten boys in the U 18s this year with PL experience, I know we made the right decisions to play there.
I am not coaching this season but will offer my undisputed support to Number55 and his venture this year. Regardless of results. I was glad to have given it a shot and am now better for the experience as I am sure all the boys involved are too.
I will be back coaching next year, my work commitments are preventing me from making the full commitment to a team this season and I will re-assess this leading into season 10/11 and nominate.
I wish all teams the very best for 09/10 season and cant wait to see the season play out.
Coach B
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09-08-09, 22:34
i hope so too, i will check out and see how athletes that play for qld and aus at this age group cope with the physical nature of it all.
Who would you be checking that out with?
The Trailer
09-08-09, 23:39
Just my under 18 team
Your under 18 team AL.HMMMM did not know you got the job?
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10-08-09, 07:32
Well thats news to me touched up by 50+ frequently?
We had 4 shocking games in the season where that was about 50+ or - a few. While its not a good scorline regardless, our points percentage was higher I believe than the 6th and 7th. And we did happen to push all the teams in at least 1 of the 2 games. BBI 5pts, Ippy 6pts, SW 1pt, GC 14pts and our win, Logan 15pts. The teams that smashed us were 3/4 in the comp.
So with only 1 person with PL experience in the team prior to last season to now ten boys in the U 18s this year with PL experience, I know we made the right decisions to play there.
I am not coaching this season but will offer my undisputed support to Number55 and his venture this year. Regardless of results. I was glad to have given it a shot and am now better for the experience as I am sure all the boys involved are too.
I will be back coaching next year, my work commitments are preventing me from making the full commitment to a team this season and I will re-assess this leading into season 10/11 and nominate.
I wish all teams the very best for 09/10 season and cant wait to see the season play out.
Coach B
Firstly when i said ' getting touched up by 50+', it was also a joke in regards to your 'lucky enough to make your team' comment. it wasnt a dig and sorry if it came across that way
I mentioned in the same post its about developing kids and associations.
That said...
Coach B are you talking U16s 08/09? The reference to 50+ point defeats were in reference to the 08/09 U18 team.
I agree that kids playing in premier league is far better for them than playing southern cup. That said i think 50pt differences are too much in premier league. For developing teams i personally would expect somewhere around the 30pts mark and 40-50pt differences on a bad day.
Furthermore i would much rather see a team nominate for Div 1 and not make it compared to those that dont even give it a crack
So congrats to Redlands you are heading in the right direction, and im sure we will see you really competing in the coming years if the u16 redlands team is an indication to go by
Who would you be checking that out with?
as per my previous post?
Your under 18 team AL.HMMMM did not know you got the job?
its no secret...
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10-08-09, 09:27
Just my under 18 team
There have always been and will continue to be other options for this age group to travel to US, Logan just had a very successful U.S trip in June w Chris Guerikis, Trevor Cook organising group for Dec 09. Parents need to understand and consider many aspects before paying alot of $$$ for a trip of such...and alot of that planning and consideration should be done from U12-14s.
Good on ya AL, and all the best for the upcoming season. If we lived closer you'd be my choice of as a rep coach for my son....unfortunately that won't happen now but all the best with this season.
There have always been and will continue to be other options for this age group to travel to US, Logan just had a very successful U.S trip in June w Chris Guerikis, Trevor Cook organising group for Dec 09. Parents need to understand and consider many aspects before paying alot of $$$ for a trip of such...and alot of that planning and consideration should be done from U12-14s.
Good on ya AL, and all the best for the upcoming season. If we lived closer you'd be my choice of as a rep coach for my son....unfortunately that won't happen now but all the best with this season.
most definately, the idea of the usa came from our new coaching director, really simple to organise if you have the right connections and enough lead time. for those who end up going to the usa, they will have the best part of a year to fund-raise. I have suggested to some of the lads to put away 10 bucks here and there incase they wanna buys shoes and stuff while they are over there, heck I am :)
Thanks for the compliment also, drop me an email - al_waldron@hotmail.com as I am not sure which parent wrote the above post :(
Firstly when i said ' getting touched up by 50+', it was also a joke in regards to your 'lucky enough to make your team' comment. it wasnt a dig and sorry if it came across that way
I mentioned in the same post its about developing kids and associations.
That said...
Coach B are you talking U16s 08/09? The reference to 50+ point defeats were in reference to the 08/09 U18 team.
I agree that kids playing in premier league is far better for them than playing southern cup. That said i think 50pt differences are too much in premier league. For developing teams i personally would expect somewhere around the 30pts mark and 40-50pt differences on a bad day.
Furthermore i would much rather see a team nominate for Div 1 and not make it compared to those that dont even give it a crack
So congrats to Redlands you are heading in the right direction, and im sure we will see you really competing in the coming years if the u16 redlands team is an indication to go by
Thanks mate, After I read your post again you were refering to the U18 of 08/09.
We were stoked to have played out the season in Div 1, hope in the next years we will be in it with all the other assoc. I dont think there are any expectations around our club, which is great. Unfortunately, we really lack height at Redlands that is our only problem, I watched the trials over the last few weeks and all the teams are even in height. But 2 strong 18's teams will compete this year. Cant wait!
Maybe we can do what Toowoomba does? Put their feet in cow s..t and grow em big and strong. Go the furtiliser, LOL. (No offence intended)
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10-08-09, 23:03
Has the Townsville teams started yet. Who is all the coaches this year.
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11-08-09, 01:51
Maroochydore also looking to travel to the US this season currently weighing up options as to timing and which tournaments to attend
With Classics looking like such a joke would like the team to finish reps with a memorable experience
Unregistered
11-08-09, 23:32
Hey BQ!
Way to F**k Up My Last Rep Season!
Cheers.
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12-08-09, 09:19
Mate I feel for you, having your last rep year ruined like it is going to be but I think it is BA not BQ that has done the deed. There are not too many options, clearly season just passed was not the answer.
My thoughts would be same time but go back to 10 min games and either start earlier and finish later (remember this is U18 not U12). If that cannot be done then seperate mens and womens for pool games and conduct finals at one venue. Example Men at Logan, Women's at South West. Both finals at either Logan or Sth West
Just my toughts, mate don't let that spoil your last year, enjoy as much as you can.
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12-08-09, 13:18
Mate I feel for you, having your last rep year ruined like it is going to be but I think it is BA not BQ that has done the deed. There are not too many options, clearly season just passed was not the answer.
My thoughts would be same time but go back to 10 min games and either start earlier and finish later (remember this is U18 not U12). If that cannot be done then seperate mens and womens for pool games and conduct finals at one venue. Example Men at Logan, Women's at South West. Both finals at either Logan or Sth West
Just my toughts, mate don't let that spoil your last year, enjoy as much as you can.
Logan will have 3 stadiums = 11 courts by the time classics comes around. 10 min qrt & fully timed games could easily be acheived. Somebody is just too lazy to orgainise it.
Logan will have 3 stadiums = 11 courts by the time classics comes around. 10 min qrt & fully timed games could easily be acheived. Somebody is just too lazy to orgainise it.
As a coach in this age group this coming season I agree that 4x8min just isn't right. However, I think the problem with what you're proposing is that those 11 courts are not owned by Logan or BQ and have to be hired. According to what I have heard, rising hire costs for externally-owned venues is the reason BQ is looking at tinkering with game timings in the first place :(
IDK, maybe one of the association administrators who reads these boards and know more than I do about the situation could shed more light and end the rumours as to why?
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12-08-09, 16:43
As a coach in this age group this coming season I agree that 4x8min just isn't right. However, I think the problem with what you're proposing is that those 11 courts are not owned by Logan or BQ and have to be hired. According to what I have heard, rising hire costs for externally-owned venues is the reason BQ is looking at tinkering with game timings in the first place :(
IDK, maybe one of the association administrators who reads these boards and know more than I do about the situation could shed more light and end the rumours as to why?
Well if this is the case, why not have the U18 Classics at one of the associations that own their stadium eg Ippi, any others?
Well if this is the case, why not have the U18 Classics at one of the associations that own their stadium eg Ippi, any others?
Pretty sure all of them are being utilised anyway for Classics.
Pretty sure all of them are being utilised anyway for Classics.
Redlands isn't?
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13-08-09, 10:24
Redlands isn't?
Probably being used for vacation care...
Carina sits empty
13-08-09, 10:54
Pretty sure all of them are being utilised anyway for Classics.
Carina stadium is empty at present and managed so no court hire required. Sorry thats right BQ will not use it as long as they are in .........................
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13-08-09, 11:02
instead of a 2 pools of 6 make it 4 pools of 3 cut throat from the get go.
top 2 go through to qf
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13-08-09, 12:25
instead of a 2 pools of 6 make it 4 pools of 3 cut throat from the get go.
top 2 go through to qf
Good to see people tossing out other ideas, but how would this work, Two Pool games against others in Pool then a Qtr Final, Semi and Final. That means 5 games for the tournament.
Cutting down the number of games, to me, seems worse than playing 8 min quarters. If the same number of games are played as normal (7-8) with 8min fully timed quarters we lose 8mins of playing time per game, so total minutes lost is 56 or 64. If we cut down to 5 40min games we lose 80min to 120min.
I really don't see losing about 1 hour of playing time across a 7 or 8 game tournament that big a deal. Some predictions say will mean Bench plays less because starters can play greater % of the game without fatiguing as much, so wouldn't this mean better quality ball on the court. Sad for the Bench guys but you've got a whole season to work hard and get off the bench. On the really good teams there will still be games where Coaches rest the starters for most of the game so will get a run.
On an evenly balanced team with great depth, assumably the eight minutes less will be split across the whole team so each player plays 4min less per game, or about 30 mins over all of Classics.
If a game is tight, it will be tight no matter the length of the game, if it's a blow out, will be less of a humiliation for the losing team as less time for points to be racked up.
I prefer 10 min quarters but lets call it how it is. Each player plays about 30mins less ball across a the Tournament, Quality should be higher as better players play more of game, fatigue still will be a factor because of 3 days so fitter teams do better when it counts. Accomodation costs are lower as less nights to stay down.
Northern teams still always came down on Thursday when we played over easter, so coming down friday for this is really no different.
More games played in a shorter Period should reduce court hire costs which host association pays for, not BQ so hopefully be more economical to host. Less days for BQ staff to do whatever they do there, so should be cheaper to run, therefore cost per team to attend should be reduced (alright, alright, we know this will never happen) but overall not the end of the world.
So please all, let's start being a bit more positive. No one from the associations came up with a better alternative, so if you think you have a viable one, throw it out there, if not SHUT UP, make the most of what we've got and get over the 1/2 hr of ball you or your kid might miss across 8 games.
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13-08-09, 12:35
Good to see people tossing out other ideas, but how would this work, Two Pool games against others in Pool then a Qtr Final, Semi and Final. That means 5 games for the tournament.
Cutting down the number of games, to me, seems worse than playing 8 min quarters. If the same number of games are played as normal (7-8) with 8min fully timed quarters we lose 8mins of playing time per game, so total minutes lost is 56 or 64. If we cut down to 5 40min games we lose 80min to 120min.
I really don't see losing about 1 hour of playing time across a 7 or 8 game tournament that big a deal. Some predictions say will mean Bench plays less because starters can play greater % of the game without fatiguing as much, so wouldn't this mean better quality ball on the court. Sad for the Bench guys but you've got a whole season to work hard and get off the bench. On the really good teams there will still be games where Coaches rest the starters for most of the game so will get a run.
On an evenly balanced team with great depth, assumably the eight minutes less will be split across the whole team so each player plays 4min less per game, or about 30 mins over all of Classics.
If a game is tight, it will be tight no matter the length of the game, if it's a blow out, will be less of a humiliation for the losing team as less time for points to be racked up.
I prefer 10 min quarters but lets call it how it is. Each player plays about 30mins less ball across a the Tournament, Quality should be higher as better players play more of game, fatigue still will be a factor because of 3 days so fitter teams do better when it counts. Accomodation costs are lower as less nights to stay down.
Northern teams still always came down on Thursday when we played over easter, so coming down friday for this is really no different.
More games played in a shorter Period should reduce court hire costs which host association pays for, not BQ so hopefully be more economical to host. Less days for BQ staff to do whatever they do there, so should be cheaper to run, therefore cost per team to attend should be reduced (alright, alright, we know this will never happen) but overall not the end of the world.
So please all, let's start being a bit more positive. No one from the associations came up with a better alternative, so if you think you have a viable one, throw it out there, if not SHUT UP, make the most of what we've got and get over the 1/2 hr of ball you or your kid might miss across 8 games.
touchy touchy
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13-08-09, 13:27
Good to see people tossing out other ideas, but how would this work, Two Pool games against others in Pool then a Qtr Final, Semi and Final. That means 5 games for the tournament.
Cutting down the number of games, to me, seems worse than playing 8 min quarters. If the same number of games are played as normal (7-8) with 8min fully timed quarters we lose 8mins of playing time per game, so total minutes lost is 56 or 64. If we cut down to 5 40min games we lose 80min to 120min.
I really don't see losing about 1 hour of playing time across a 7 or 8 game tournament that big a deal. Some predictions say will mean Bench plays less because starters can play greater % of the game without fatiguing as much, so wouldn't this mean better quality ball on the court. Sad for the Bench guys but you've got a whole season to work hard and get off the bench. On the really good teams there will still be games where Coaches rest the starters for most of the game so will get a run.
On an evenly balanced team with great depth, assumably the eight minutes less will be split across the whole team so each player plays 4min less per game, or about 30 mins over all of Classics.
If a game is tight, it will be tight no matter the length of the game, if it's a blow out, will be less of a humiliation for the losing team as less time for points to be racked up.
I prefer 10 min quarters but lets call it how it is. Each player plays about 30mins less ball across a the Tournament, Quality should be higher as better players play more of game, fatigue still will be a factor because of 3 days so fitter teams do better when it counts. Accomodation costs are lower as less nights to stay down.
Northern teams still always came down on Thursday when we played over easter, so coming down friday for this is really no different.
More games played in a shorter Period should reduce court hire costs which host association pays for, not BQ so hopefully be more economical to host. Less days for BQ staff to do whatever they do there, so should be cheaper to run, therefore cost per team to attend should be reduced (alright, alright, we know this will never happen) but overall not the end of the world.
So please all, let's start being a bit more positive. No one from the associations came up with a better alternative, so if you think you have a viable one, throw it out there, if not SHUT UP, make the most of what we've got and get over the 1/2 hr of ball you or your kid might miss across 8 games.
They just dont get it do they??!!
Cheaper and more fun to go play in a street ball tournament down the road.
"Missing a 1/2 hour of 'ball across 8 games" Forget court costs and admin matters, user pays and you get paid to facilitate basketball competitions. Not 40 minutes, is not basketball. Its a scrimmage. Nothing else to play for at Classics now State teams are selected at BQ meetings and no bragging rights for winning a scrimmage.
They just dont get it.
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13-08-09, 14:29
Nothing left to Play For?
I didn't realise State Team Selection was only reason people went to Classics before. Real players don't care how long a game is, or what's at stake. They play hard and play to win. Be it a training scrimmage,lunchtime pickup on asphalt, HORSE, preseason game or Championship, they want to win.
This years classic final was great. Both teams looked like they wanted to win pretty bad, and whether they played 32, 40, 48 or 60 mins it would have been the same.
40mins is better for sure but 32mins is not the end of the world. You don't here the USA bitching when goin to the Olympics that even though they play 48 min games all season, with different courtmarkings and all, now they have to play 40 mins on new court. They go out, compete in training camp, take names in the Tournament and Win Gold.
I suppose you only go to Nationals so you can get picked for Australia, then play for Australia to get.....
If that's your attitude I wouldn't worry much, you wouldn't get picked anyway if you don't compete every second you're out there. Make the most of every second you're on the floor instead of worrying about what's next and the great game of Basketball will reward you in it's purity. When James Naismith wrote the first 13 rules one was "The Game will have two 15 minute halves with 5 minutes rest in between". The length doesn't matter, it's how you play.
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13-08-09, 17:01
Nothing left to Play For?
I didn't realise State Team Selection was only reason people went to Classics before. Real players don't care how long a game is, or what's at stake. They play hard and play to win. Be it a training scrimmage,lunchtime pickup on asphalt, HORSE, preseason game or Championship, they want to win.
This years classic final was great. Both teams looked like they wanted to win pretty bad, and whether they played 32, 40, 48 or 60 mins it would have been the same.
40mins is better for sure but 32mins is not the end of the world. You don't here the USA bitching when goin to the Olympics that even though they play 48 min games all season, with different courtmarkings and all, now they have to play 40 mins on new court. They go out, compete in training camp, take names in the Tournament and Win Gold.
I suppose you only go to Nationals so you can get picked for Australia, then play for Australia to get.....
If that's your attitude I wouldn't worry much, you wouldn't get picked anyway if you don't compete every second you're out there. Make the most of every second you're on the floor instead of worrying about what's next and the great game of Basketball will reward you in it's purity. When James Naismith wrote the first 13 rules one was "The Game will have two 15 minute halves with 5 minutes rest in between". The length doesn't matter, it's how you play.
Olympic Dream Team? James Naismith? What the?!
FIBA rules. Basketball !!! Give the membership the game they pay for and your supposed to represent and administer in Queensland.
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13-08-09, 19:54
Good to see people tossing out other ideas, but how would this work, Two Pool games against others in Pool then a Qtr Final, Semi and Final. That means 5 games for the tournament.
Cutting down the number of games, to me, seems worse than playing 8 min quarters. If the same number of games are played as normal (7-8) with 8min fully timed quarters we lose 8mins of playing time per game, so total minutes lost is 56 or 64. If we cut down to 5 40min games we lose 80min to 120min.
I really don't see losing about 1 hour of playing time across a 7 or 8 game tournament that big a deal. Some predictions say will mean Bench plays less because starters can play greater % of the game without fatiguing as much, so wouldn't this mean better quality ball on the court. Sad for the Bench guys but you've got a whole season to work hard and get off the bench. On the really good teams there will still be games where Coaches rest the starters for most of the game so will get a run.
On an evenly balanced team with great depth, assumably the eight minutes less will be split across the whole team so each player plays 4min less per game, or about 30 mins over all of Classics.
If a game is tight, it will be tight no matter the length of the game, if it's a blow out, will be less of a humiliation for the losing team as less time for points to be racked up.
I prefer 10 min quarters but lets call it how it is. Each player plays about 30mins less ball across a the Tournament, Quality should be higher as better players play more of game, fatigue still will be a factor because of 3 days so fitter teams do better when it counts. Accomodation costs are lower as less nights to stay down.
Northern teams still always came down on Thursday when we played over easter, so coming down friday for this is really no different.
More games played in a shorter Period should reduce court hire costs which host association pays for, not BQ so hopefully be more economical to host. Less days for BQ staff to do whatever they do there, so should be cheaper to run, therefore cost per team to attend should be reduced (alright, alright, we know this will never happen) but overall not the end of the world.
So please all, let's start being a bit more positive. No one from the associations came up with a better alternative, so if you think you have a viable one, throw it out there, if not SHUT UP, make the most of what we've got and get over the 1/2 hr of ball you or your kid might miss across 8 games.
yes you are correct on how it works but this age group need to play 10 mins quarters but less days equals less games unless you want games to tip off as early as 6am and as late as 11pm then what else is there?????
maybe have boys at one venue and girls at another have the 18s in the south every year ( i know that will up set the north but heres why) as at least 6 teams are from the south play the south v south games the night before the 1st day then go from there.
if less games are an issue then have 3 pools of 4 top 2 go through and 2 highest seeded or highest percentage placed teams make up 7 th and 8th for the quarters
so the top 8 would be top 3 in each pool 1st 2nd 3rd
2nd each pool 4th 5th 6th
highest 2 non qulifiers 7th and 8th (wild card spots)
all those positions based on comp points 1st percentage 2nd tournament seed 3rd
this will still be tight for a 3 day comp 6 games 2 per day
2 games day 1 1 pool game and quarter final day 2 semi final and final day 3
will have some very tired players but 3 days will do that
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14-08-09, 00:17
Just hold it at the end of january, Couldnt be a better time for numerous and obvious reasons
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14-08-09, 08:05
Just hold it at the end of january, Couldnt be a better time for numerous and obvious reasons
Would seem the obvious choice. Whats the hidden agenda?
Just hold it at the end of january, Couldnt be a better time for numerous and obvious reasons
That would mean that BQ staff would have to work during prime holiday season. hahahahhh
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14-08-09, 13:13
That would mean that BQ staff would have to work during prime holiday season. hahahahhh
yeah so if they want a holiday season work for a corporation not a sprot and leasure indrustry
Redlands teams announced today :)
13 teams in total, increasing again this year......
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15-08-09, 19:19
How many U18 teams? Are there many top agers at Redlands or is it just the U16 team from last year? Who made the team Coach B?
How many other associations have held thier trials?
Are any other teams announced yet?
Redlands teams announced today :)
13 teams in total, increasing again this year......
you guys are on the ball! well done.
How many U18 teams? Are there many top agers at Redlands or is it just the U16 team from last year? Who made the team Coach B?
How many other associations have held thier trials?
Are any other teams announced yet?
NS trials are next week
How many U18 teams? Are there many top agers at Redlands or is it just the U16 team from last year? Who made the team Coach B?
How many other associations have held thier trials?
Are any other teams announced yet?
I am not the coach, so I wont be naming the teams, sry. Leave that up to him. LOL.
But there are 6 bottom agers in the 1st squad 4 of those from my team last year and a couple of newby's to the club. And 4 top age boys to go with it. Congrats to my boys from last year you all probably deserved to be in the firsts, shame they couldnt take 16 into the team.
There is 2 x u18b teams, who I think will both be a good teams, as well alot of talent there for the coachs to play with. If the firsts dont make PL I think both teams have the potential to play SC definately. But great to see the development continueing at Redlands. Must have been a hard selection for the coachs with some tough decisions made after alot of debate Im sure. Glad I didnt have to make the decisions.
There is 2 boys teams in every age group which is great and 2 u16 girls teams.
As for the other Assoc. I think Spartans and Logan are trialing now and as Al said he's next week.
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18-08-09, 08:54
Mate I feel for you, having your last rep year ruined like it is going to be but I think it is BA not BQ that has done the deed. There are not too many options, clearly season just passed was not the answer.
My thoughts would be same time but go back to 10 min games and either start earlier and finish later (remember this is U18 not U12). If that cannot be done then seperate mens and womens for pool games and conduct finals at one venue. Example Men at Logan, Women's at South West. Both finals at either Logan or Sth West
Just my toughts, mate don't let that spoil your last year, enjoy as much as you can.
Wouldntbe breaking out the tissues for him just yet. More acase of getting himslf anexpenses paid trip to the states to look for a game somewhere for his boy.
Wouldntbe breaking out the tissues for him just yet. More acase of getting himslf anexpenses paid trip to the states to look for a game somewhere for his boy.
who are you pointing that comment too?
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19-08-09, 21:18
Maroochydore tryouts this saturday 5 pm 1sts and 2nds
yeah ill post em....
23rd August and 30th of August - 2:30pm-4pm at South Pine Sports Complex Brendale
2nd of Sept - Teams released
4th of Sept - 6th of Sept - 3 day camp for those who make the team/s
Inclusions this year will be :
End of season trip - June long weekend 2010 - Melbourne Classic
December 2010 trip for U18 teams - USA
got the location wrong for today, its at boondall, next week @ brendale.... sorry people who were banking on that info....
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23-08-09, 13:32
has anyone heard that the PL(all ages ie 12 14 16 18's) will consist of 6 teams only this year, I heard it from a someone with limited knowledge but given what else happens in BQ nothing would surprise.
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23-08-09, 14:45
Brisbane look strong this year with, Garrett Scheibner, Jeremy Kelly, Brendan Carroll, Anthony Kelly, Nick Chia, Brandon Holloway, Bergen Twins..... Looking like a solid team. Plus there is a heap of others. Another state player who is bottom age and some other bloke. Thats who I saw at the tryouts today when I came up and took a look for a few minutes.
has anyone heard that the PL(all ages ie 12 14 16 18's) will consist of 6 teams only this year, I heard it from a someone with limited knowledge but given what else happens in BQ nothing would surprise.
From info from my Association delegate the smaller grouping in PL was a feature of one of the proposals that went to BQ delegates, as was the concept of playing three rounds over the one weekend early in 2010. Still waiting to hear which way they went with it all.
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23-08-09, 16:34
Brisbane look strong this year with, Garrett Scheibner, Jeremy Kelly, Brendan Carroll, Anthony Kelly, Nick Chia, Brandon Holloway, Bergen Twins..... Looking like a solid team. Plus there is a heap of others. Another state player who is bottom age and some other bloke. Thats who I saw at the tryouts today when I came up and took a look for a few minutes.
agreed. but not sure about holloway, as he hasn't grown and looks to be to smaller build. he has a nice shot but i think he would find it tough to get off in u18's PL
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23-08-09, 16:42
agreed. but not sure about holloway, as he hasn't grown and looks to be to smaller build. he has a nice shot but i think he would find it tough to get off in u18's PL
With JK in the middle, is it really going to matter how big everyone else is? :-)
just jokes.... well, mostly..
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23-08-09, 16:59
agreed. but not sure about holloway, as he hasn't grown and looks to be to smaller build. he has a nice shot but i think he would find it tough to get off in u18's PL
Yeah, but I think the smaller guys on Brisbane would easily benefit from playing around JK. He will surely draw attention and possible double teams, allowing shooters like BC and Holloway and Toby Shultze to get going.
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23-08-09, 17:28
Yeah, but I think the smaller guys on Brisbane would easily benefit from playing around JK. He will surely draw attention and possible double teams, allowing shooters like BC and Holloway and Toby Shultze to get going.
Yeah I agree, JK would draw a lot of attention. However I do Not think that BC needs jk to allow him to get off his shot, howeer yes shultze probably would. Holloway I think is a bit underestimated, I think it was him back in u16's when these guys were top age, he was in silver and averaged 17 a game in div 1. Regardless brissy look like a strong outfit this year!
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24-08-09, 00:32
From info from my Association delegate the smaller grouping in PL was a feature of one of the proposals that went to BQ delegates, as was the concept of playing three rounds over the one weekend early in 2010. Still waiting to hear which way they went with it all.
Hasnt it been 6 teams for the last few years and thats why they play that ridiculous "grading tournament" at the start with a challenge or something after the first round?
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24-08-09, 01:54
Brisbane look far too strong will anyone come close to them again this year
Hasnt it been 6 teams for the last few years and thats why they play that ridiculous "grading tournament" at the start with a challenge or something after the first round?
No, it's 8 at present.
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24-08-09, 12:32
This is the squad according to the BBI website...... Gold and silver teams I suppose:
Lachlan Barnes
Brendan Carroll
Nicholas Chia
Henry Cunningham
Isaac Deakin
Nicholas Dickinson
Liam Emery
Steven Fogarty
Aaron Hayward
Brandon Hewitt-Holloway
Anthony Kelly
Jeremy Kelly
Joshua Kohout
Nathan Merlano
Max Quinlan-Ward
Jon Roth
Zhorje Saba
Garrett Scheibner
Justin Schultz
Toby Schulz
Mahoummed Sheriff
Matthew Strybos
Ben Bergen
Beau Bergen
Tony Abernathy
Rafal Mathiut
Gaspheh Obwono
Akech Akoubeny
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24-08-09, 13:56
No, it's 8 at present.
so 3 teams from Brisbane and 3 from districts and everyone else plays div 2. seems about right to me
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24-08-09, 14:14
This is the squad according to the BBI website...... Gold and silver teams I suppose:
Lachlan Barnes
Brendan Carroll
Nicholas Chia
Henry Cunningham
Isaac Deakin
Nicholas Dickinson
Liam Emery
Steven Fogarty
Aaron Hayward
Brandon Hewitt-Holloway
Anthony Kelly
Jeremy Kelly
Joshua Kohout
Nathan Merlano
Max Quinlan-Ward
Jon Roth
Zhorje Saba
Garrett Scheibner
Justin Schultz
Toby Schulz
Mahoummed Sheriff
Matthew Strybos
Ben Bergen
Beau Bergen
Tony Abernathy
Rafal Mathiut
Gaspheh Obwono
Akech Akoubeny
There's 28 names for 2 teams, what are they having 14 in gold and 14 in silver. Who will be in the Gold team???
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24-08-09, 14:41
Im guessing there will be more cuts...
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24-08-09, 14:52
Im guessing there will be more cuts...
You guess right
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24-08-09, 16:40
This is the squad according to the BBI website...... Gold and silver teams I suppose:
Lachlan Barnes
Brendan Carroll
Nicholas Chia
Henry Cunningham
Isaac Deakin
Nicholas Dickinson
Liam Emery
Steven Fogarty
Aaron Hayward
Brandon Hewitt-Holloway
Anthony Kelly
Jeremy Kelly
Joshua Kohout
Nathan Merlano
Max Quinlan-Ward
Jon Roth
Zhorje Saba
Garrett Scheibner
Justin Schultz
Toby Schulz
Mahoummed Sheriff
Matthew Strybos
Ben Bergen
Beau Bergen
Tony Abernathy
Rafal Mathiut
Gaspheh Obwono
Akech Akoubeny
Did you guys notice that the training venue for Tuesday night has change? Now at Gregory Tce School starting at 7.20 according to the squad announcement on BBI website
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24-08-09, 17:27
This is the squad according to the BBI website...... Gold and silver teams I suppose:
Lachlan Barnes
Brendan Carroll
Nicholas Chia
Henry Cunningham
Isaac Deakin
Nicholas Dickinson
Liam Emery
Steven Fogarty
Aaron Hayward
Brandon Hewitt-Holloway
Anthony Kelly
Jeremy Kelly
Joshua Kohout
Nathan Merlano
Max Quinlan-Ward
Jon Roth
Zhorje Saba
Garrett Scheibner
Justin Schultz
Toby Schulz
Mahoummed Sheriff
Matthew Strybos
Ben Bergen
Beau Bergen
Tony Abernathy
Rafal Mathiut
Gaspheh Obwono
Akech Akoubeny
OK...... who of these 28 will make the BBI Gold Team ??? Should be able to field a great team from that list. Post your thoughts of the team of 10 and we'll see who is right in a few weeks.
1. Garrett Scheibner
2. Ben Bergen
3. Jeremy Kelly
4. Brendan Carroll
5. Beau Bergen
6. Matthew Strybos
7. Nicholas Chia
8. Anthony Kelly
9. ?
10.?
who would you make 9 & 10??? (Hard choice)
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24-08-09, 18:35
1. Garrett Scheibner
2. Jeremy Kelly
3. Ben Bergen
4. Brendan Carroll
5. Anthony Kelly
6. Beau Bergen
7. Brandon Holloway
8. Nick Chia (Or capt. of silver?)
9. Matt Strybos
10. Toby Shultz
Either way, caps are gonna be tough!
WOW now we know that Brisbane looks strong, how are the other teams looking. Guessing Maroochydore will be strong this year, and Noosa has been improving. What about Runaway Bay, they were dark horses last season?
Come on guys spill the beans !!!!!:D:D:D:D:
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24-08-09, 21:47
1. Garrett Scheibner
2. Jeremy Kelly
3. Ben Bergen
4. Brendan Carroll
5. Anthony Kelly
6. Beau Bergen
7. Brandon Holloway
8. Nick Chia (Or capt. of silver?)
9. Matt Strybos
10. Toby Shultz
Either way, caps are gonna be tough!
Toby AND Brandon? That's a whole lotta shooting. Maybe a little too much.
I suggest you'll need a back up for Kelly, rather than another two small ball carriers. Emery, AK or Deakin are probably the biggest, but don't ask me which one or two to go for. I'd even be tempted to select neither of the small older players and run one of the physcially bigger younger options - J.Shultz or J.Roth. They're going to be playing from the bench in any case.
With Garret, Brendon and Anthony already in the side, Brisbane hardly need any assistance from outside.
However, the second "strongest" player on the boards in that side you've selected is Garrett. It would be a waste of both he and Strybos to play them big.
I agree that your side is probably the best 10 players, but it's seriously unbalanced. My team would be:
1) G.Scheibner
2) J.Kelly
3) B.Bergen
4) B.Bergen
5) B.Carroll
6) N.Chia
7) M.Strybos all as definites and then...
8) T.Shultz or B.Holloway
9) L.Emery or I.Deakin or Ak.Ak
10) J.Shultz or J.Roth
A.Kelly would be very unlucky to be left out, but he's the third best out of he, Scheibner and Chia and doesn't add anything the other two don't already and better. If the Bergen twins couldn't dribble like they do, then I'd have him in, but theres no reason I see to overload on a single type of player.
Brisbane learnt their lesson about not picking 8 point guards in a team last year with their silver side. I don't see it happening again.
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25-08-09, 06:50
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Fletcher Smith
Brodie Dean
Jake Allen
Jacob McDonagh
Dylan Kay
Justin Laws
Jarrod Gamble
Lachlan Townend
Ashley Freeman
Anthony Cora
Luke Scott
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25-08-09, 06:55
Ryley Buntain*****************************
Travis Peeke
Charlie Grogan****************************
Liam Molina
Daniel Pertot****************************
Steven Grogan
Tom Wade************************************** *
Jack Hunt
Sam Kosovich****************************
Peter Grogan
Tom Lord*************************************
Bradley*Wray
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25-08-09, 06:58
Jesse Astin
Oliver Rowe
James Stephenson
Stevie Wheelan
Alex Dart
Dylan Desmarchelier
Nathan Farley
Mac Franklin
Anaru Joyce
Jesse Astin
Oliver Rowe
James Stephenson
Stevie Wheelan
Alex Dart
Dylan Desmarchelier
Nathan Farley
Mac Franklin
Anaru Joyce
And one other to be added likely.
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25-08-09, 08:49
Toby AND Brandon? That's a whole lotta shooting. Maybe a little too much.
I suggest you'll need a back up for Kelly, rather than another two small ball carriers. Emery, AK or Deakin are probably the biggest, but don't ask me which one or two to go for. I'd even be tempted to select neither of the small older players and run one of the physcially bigger younger options - J.Shultz or J.Roth. They're going to be playing from the bench in any case.
With Garret, Brendon and Anthony already in the side, Brisbane hardly need any assistance from outside.
However, the second "strongest" player on the boards in that side you've selected is Garrett. It would be a waste of both he and Strybos to play them big.
I agree that your side is probably the best 10 players, but it's seriously unbalanced. My team would be:
1) G.Scheibner
2) J.Kelly
3) B.Bergen
4) B.Bergen
5) B.Carroll
6) N.Chia
7) M.Strybos all as definites and then...
8) T.Shultz or B.Holloway
9) L.Emery or I.Deakin or Ak.Ak
10) J.Shultz or J.Roth
A.Kelly would be very unlucky to be left out, but he's the third best out of he, Scheibner and Chia and doesn't add anything the other two don't already and better. If the Bergen twins couldn't dribble like they do, then I'd have him in, but theres no reason I see to overload on a single type of player.
Brisbane learnt their lesson about not picking 8 point guards in a team last year with their silver side. I don't see it happening again.
Brisbane usually don't take a bottom age kid in a Gold team if he isnt going to see reasonable court time. Otherwise he is better of playing silver and developing for next year.
I imagine BBI are aiming for 2 PL teams looking at that squad
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25-08-09, 09:10
And one other to be added likely.
Unless it's Dwight Howard I guess Redlands won't be playing PL! They seem to lack a dominant top age big, though their guard rotation should compete well in SC. Maybe Brisbane could lend them some bigs ;-) I thought Cody from Logan trialled at Redlands...weren't they good enough for him?
Definitely looks like Brisbane is aiming for 2 teams in PL...does any other association have this sort of depth?
Maybe there will only be 6 teams worthy of PL? I know Logan's numbers were down at trials, but will definitely be a top 4 contender in PL, with Northside & SD Spartans, but who else? Maroochydore? Runaway Bay? South West (If Dom & Argon return)? Surely Caps could split that squad across two teams and challenge for a 1-2 finish... Can't see anyone else coming close.
Maybe the real fight will be to qualify for SC? Will be interesting to see how many teams decide it's worth trying to qualify for PL...
Brisbane usually don't take a bottom age kid in a Gold team if he isnt going to see reasonable court time. Otherwise he is better of playing silver and developing for next year.
I imagine BBI are aiming for 2 PL teams looking at that squad
from memory max and chris ritchie made the the u16 bbi side as bottom agers....could be wrong though.
judging by that list, there is enough good players for both sides to be in div1
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25-08-09, 11:11
Ryley Buntain*****************************
Travis Peeke
Charlie Grogan****************************
Liam Molina
Daniel Pertot****************************
Steven Grogan
Tom Wade************************************** *
Jack Hunt
Sam Kosovich****************************
Peter Grogan
Tom Lord*************************************
Bradley*Wray
Not sure what this is about? That's last years team...
Official team for this year is:
Jack Hunt
Tom Wade
Peter Grogan
Jeb Wiseman
Chris Johnston
Jacob Kleinburg
Jason Blamey
Sam Kosovich
Lachlan Bycroft
This year's team might not be as strong. Have lost leading scorer and their best athlete from last season in Ryley Buntain. Watch out for young Jack Hunt and Tom Wade, both will have a lot of pressure on them in keeping this improving team competitive.
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25-08-09, 13:57
Brisbane usually don't take a bottom age kid in a Gold team if he isnt going to see reasonable court time. Otherwise he is better of playing silver and developing for next year.
I imagine BBI are aiming for 2 PL teams looking at that squad
Think you'll find BBI are aiming to eventually have 4 teams in PL, all theirs. The only place to play basketball if you want to make state teams.
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25-08-09, 15:36
Think you'll find BBI are aiming to eventually have 4 teams in PL, all theirs. The only place to play basketball if you want to make state teams.
Shouldn't the BEST 6 teams be playing Premier League regardless of which Association they come from. Should the 2 teams per Association be scrapped in preferance to best 6 play Premier and work down the line?
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25-08-09, 17:12
Think you'll find BBI are aiming to eventually have 4 teams in PL, all theirs. The only place to play basketball if you want to make state teams.
One things for sure you won't be making any of those 4 teams!! BBI are the measuring stick, jealosy is a curse son!!
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25-08-09, 17:27
One things for sure you won't be making any of those 4 teams!! BBI are the measuring stick, jealosy is a curse son!!
They are probably refering to the well known fact that if you play for BBI you increase your chances of making state dramatically. Just my take on their comment.
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25-08-09, 17:53
Kind of scary though that most BBI kids are BBI for life. Look at the recent All Aust boys they have
Macca - always been BBI
Wroe - always been BBI
Garret - always been BBI
Motum - always been BBI
Bubbles - was districts in U14 then BBI from memory
Bairstow- he moved around abit, not sure why
Just goes to show how good the program is as kids obviosuly want to play there. I have never seen anyone actively recruit to their association (although this doesnt mean it hasnt/doesnt happen).
Good prgoram and good results = rep selection. Same in any sport at any level. Top teams usually end up with more rep players
Matt Shingles***************************
Fletcher Smith
Brodie Dean
Jake Allen
Jacob McDonagh
Dylan Kay
Justin Laws
Jarrod Gamble
Lachlan Townend
Ashley Freeman
Anthony Cora
Luke Scott
Shingles and Gamble bottom age, I don't know the rest, are they top age?
Jesse Astin
Oliver Rowe
James Stephenson
Stevie Wheelan
Alex Dart
Dylan Desmarchelier
Nathan Farley
Mac Franklin
Anaru Joyce
congrats to dylan and nathan, hope you lads have an awesome season
Think you'll find BBI are aiming to eventually have 4 teams in PL, all theirs. The only place to play basketball if you want to make state teams.
gold and silver will be in PL going by those squad members, but 4 teams, rubbish.
bbi have the track record for producing quality players, however the u16s state team consisted of the following - , BBI, Ippy, GC, SW, Logan, Toowoomba, NS and Districts.
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25-08-09, 18:59
Kind of scary though that most BBI kids are BBI for life. Look at the recent All Aust boys they have
Macca - always been BBI
Wroe - always been BBI
Garret - always been BBI
Motum - always been BBI
Bubbles - was districts in U14 then BBI from memory
Bairstow- he moved around abit, not sure why
Just goes to show how good the program is as kids obviosuly want to play there. I have never seen anyone actively recruit to their association (although this doesnt mean it hasnt/doesnt happen).
Good prgoram and good results = rep selection. Same in any sport at any level. Top teams usually end up with more rep players
Brock was from South West right? u12s, he was a talent back then from memory.
one thing I know for sure, there other associations that are becoming more attrative than bbi.
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25-08-09, 19:53
gold and silver will be in PL going by those squad members, but 4 teams, rubbish.
bbi have the track record for producing quality players, however the u16s state team consisted of the following - , BBI, Ippy, GC, SW, Logan, Toowoomba, NS and Districts.
And that my friend is the excuse for future teams why most players will be picked from BBI
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25-08-09, 22:09
[QUOTE=Unregistered;19636]Brock was from South West right? u12s, he was a talent back then from memory.
one thing I know for sure, there other associations that are becoming more attrative than bbi.[/QUOT
As an example BBI has had 6 of their junior players play for Australia in the past 8 months. There is a reason for this, if you hadn't noticed there has been a change in leadership at Brisbane, and the scary thing is they are going from strength to strenght. .
However if you are so sure there are better associations in the SE, please name 2 and tell us why?
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25-08-09, 22:31
A Tad Off Topic . . .
But by the way, congrats to Garrett & Mitch who both played at U17s last weekend, reppin QLD!
Use both played great and made us proud!
Goodluck at worlds!
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25-08-09, 23:06
Bring back u20's
And that my friend is the excuse for future teams why most players will be picked from BBI
what is the excuse? couldn't make out what you meant
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26-08-09, 11:10
Brock was from South West right? u12s, he was a talent back then from memory.
one thing I know for sure, there other associations that are becoming more attrative than bbi.
Mate Brock was not a talent back then, he played U16Colts (at Bris) and was only 6'2" - 6'3" at that age. He shot up after that and worked his butt off. God given height, dam hard work for skills.
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26-08-09, 11:25
Kind of scary though that most BBI kids are BBI for life. Look at the recent All Aust boys they have
Macca - always been BBI
Wroe - always been BBI
Garret - always been BBI
Motum - always been BBI
Bubbles - was districts in U14 then BBI from memory
Bairstow- he moved around abit, not sure why
Just goes to show how good the program is as kids obviosuly want to play there. I have never seen anyone actively recruit to their association (although this doesnt mean it hasnt/doesnt happen).
Good prgoram and good results = rep selection. Same in any sport at any level. Top teams usually end up with more rep players
motum, was at southwest till u16s then bbi
bubbles, was at districts u12,u14, was at bbi for u16 and got no court time, went back to distrits for u18s.
bairstow, was at southwest till u16s then bbi
Mate Brock was not a talent back then, he played U16Colts (at Bris) and was only 6'2" - 6'3" at that age. He shot up after that and worked his butt off. God given height, dam hard work for skills.
i do have a memory of him being 1 of the top juniors in 12s and 14s back when i was reffing.
Unless it's Dwight Howard I guess Redlands won't be playing PL! They seem to lack a dominant top age big, though their guard rotation should compete well in SC. Maybe Brisbane could lend them some bigs ;-) I thought Cody from Logan trialled at Redlands...weren't they good enough for him?
Definitely looks like Brisbane is aiming for 2 teams in PL...does any other association have this sort of depth?
Maybe there will only be 6 teams worthy of PL? I know Logan's numbers were down at trials, but will definitely be a top 4 contender in PL, with Northside & SD Spartans, but who else? Maroochydore? Runaway Bay? South West (If Dom & Argon return)? Surely Caps could split that squad across two teams and challenge for a 1-2 finish... Can't see anyone else coming close.
Maybe the real fight will be to qualify for SC? Will be interesting to see how many teams decide it's worth trying to qualify for PL...
Well I guess everyone should pack up rep now and just play club, cause obviously its a forgone conclusion that BBI wont have any competition. Great squad, great coach what else do they need? They might be favourites but never write off the other mighty clubs, SD, NS, LBI etc arent going to lay down and cop it from BBI. Might be more competition than everyone thinks:)
Just for the record Cody wanted to be assured of a PL spot and we are realistic at Redlands. So he made his decision, cant have been an easy one as he has enjoyed playing with us for a few months now and he has fit in nicely with in the club. His team is undefeated ATM, well till this weekend anyways. And I have never seen him enjoy ball like he is right now.
Shame BBI couldnt share a couple of bigs with us, maybe then some one might take notice of our ball players and guards come selection time for state?
Reds selected 6 bottom agers in their first team and will be very competitive in SC, if they dont make PL (they will return next year though). May even see both teams in SC yet with Chris S leading the second team. I personally hope they do, for Chris and my boys from last year that missed the first squad.
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26-08-09, 20:42
Gee I hope Cody's parents are earning frequent driver points, I could have sworn I saw him trialling at Northside on the weekend... If he trialled at Redlands, why didn't he make the team, surely they need a big? Someone said he was at Logan trials too???
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26-08-09, 21:27
Shame BBI couldnt share a couple of bigs with us, maybe then some one might take notice of our ball players and guards come selection time for state?
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Wouldnt hold my breath mate. The state program is locked down tight.
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26-08-09, 23:22
Gee I hope Cody's parents are earning frequent driver points, I could have sworn I saw him trialling at Northside on the weekend... If he trialled at Redlands, why didn't he make the team, surely they need a big? Someone said he was at Logan trials too???
Codes is looking at his options now that George W has moved to SW. And no I don't mind driving him that far now that I have my new sub (Thanks to Josh D).
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26-08-09, 23:23
Codes is looking at his options now that George W has moved to SW. And no I don't mind driving him that far now that I have my new sub (Thanks to Josh D).
Whoops
From his Dad.
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26-08-09, 23:26
Shame BBI couldnt share a couple of bigs with us, maybe then some one might take notice of our ball players and guards come selection time for state?
Umm.. what bigs? Granted, the jump down from JK to pretty much anyone else in the state for 18s this year is large, but it's just as big at BBI as it is everywhere else.
There's no Sengstock/Bairstow/Coleman/Ahrens this time around.
Why don't you list the ones you want and see what Keiran says :p~
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26-08-09, 23:46
Umm.. what bigs? Granted, the jump down from JK to pretty much anyone else in the state for 18s this year is large, but it's just as big at BBI as it is everywhere else.
There's no Sengstock/Bairstow/Coleman/Ahrens this time around.
Why don't you list the ones you want and see what Keiran says :p~
Sengstock/Bairstow/Coleman/Ahrens? These guys you listed.... They are 6'4"/6'5" smaller even with Coleman. They weren't big either. And there are plenty of guys this height floating around.
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27-08-09, 06:58
motum, was at southwest till u16s then bbi
bubbles, was at districts u12,u14, was at bbi for u16 and got no court time, went back to distrits for u18s.
bairstow, was at southwest till u16s then bbi
Bubbles definately played U 14's at BBI for V Dawg, the AC Lefty Lidstone was the guy who gave him the bubbles nickname during this season. The name has obviously stuck. Goulding actually played right up to to top age 18's when master coach John White decided he was not a good fit and released him, the rest is history.
Brock played 16's at BBI too for Robert Woods.
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27-08-09, 08:55
Sengstock/Bairstow/Coleman/Ahrens? These guys you listed.... They are 6'4"/6'5" smaller even with Coleman. They weren't big either. And there are plenty of guys this height floating around.
Mate you have undersized these blokes. Sengstock - 6'6", Bairstow & Coleman - 6'5" and Coleman had a bit of width
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27-08-09, 09:11
Mate you have undersized these blokes. Sengstock - 6'6", Bairstow & Coleman - 6'5" and Coleman had a bit of width
No mate you're oversizing them. I've played these guys, guarded them. Stood with them. I'm 6'4" and I'm a scratch taller than coleman and only a little bit shorter than the other two
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27-08-09, 10:37
i do have a memory of him being 1 of the top juniors in 12s and 14s back when i was reffing.
jovi was tallaer and rates as the better prospect back then...
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27-08-09, 10:50
Bubbles definately played U 14's at BBI for V Dawg, the AC Lefty Lidstone was the guy who gave him the bubbles nickname during this season. The name has obviously stuck. Goulding actually played right up to to top age 18's when master coach John White decided he was not a good fit and released him, the rest is history.
Brock played 16's at BBI too for Robert Woods.
chris played u14s at districts, not at bbi under vdog. dont know where u got your facts but ill put my house on it. he moved to bbi u16 bottom age, until u18 top age then came back to districts to play under jeff henderson when john white thought that he was a no one and obviously chris proved him wrong.
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27-08-09, 14:20
who will coastal have this season anyone know??
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27-08-09, 14:35
chris played u14s at districts, not at bbi under vdog. dont know where u got your facts but ill put my house on it. he moved to bbi u16 bottom age, until u18 top age then came back to districts to play under jeff henderson when john white thought that he was a no one and obviously chris proved him wrong.
He is there on the wall at BBI in a picture with his teamates from that U 14 year. I pray you don't live in Ipswich, cause I will be moving in to MY house soon. FACT!!
V Dawg can u confirm??
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27-08-09, 20:41
Sengstock/Bairstow/Coleman/Ahrens? These guys you listed.... They are 6'4"/6'5" smaller even with Coleman. They weren't big either. And there are plenty of guys this height floating around.
Then you agree with me that, with this years options smaller than those four, BBI are not blessed with bigs?
There may well be plenty of guys that size floating around, but they aren't (as Coach B may have been led to believe) at BBI. That was my point.
Now, my only question is whether this is Andrew, Mitch or Louis.. cos Josh and Matthew are too tall and Jim is too short :)
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27-08-09, 20:51
He is there on the wall at BBI in a picture with his teamates from that U 14 year. I pray you don't live in Ipswich, cause I will be moving in to MY house soon. FACT!!
V Dawg can u confirm??
fact.. he didnt go to brisbane till bottom age u16s, chris played u14 top age at spartans under russell wallis. the year you are looking at is the u16s when he won the classics in townsville, and vdogg will also confirm bubbles didnt play u14s there. you really need to know your stuff before you say it mate
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27-08-09, 21:34
Then you agree with me that, with this years options smaller than those four, BBI are not blessed with bigs?
There may well be plenty of guys that size floating around, but they aren't (as Coach B may have been led to believe) at BBI. That was my point.
Now, my only question is whether this is Andrew, Mitch or Louis.. cos Josh and Matthew are too tall and Jim is too short :)
BBI has 3 or 4 that height. JK, Bergens and some young un
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28-08-09, 08:25
The bergen twins are over 6'6" plus a couple others Bris will be the biggest team in the comp
plus they have by far the best guard lineup especially with Australian guard Garret Schiebner
They will crush all before them again this year
They have last years state coach and from all reports they had Dale Ryan Rob Schiebner and other top coaches helping out at trials this week
They are putting all their recources into the team this year and it will be a one horse race GO CAPS
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28-08-09, 15:51
The bergen twins are over 6'6" plus a couple others Bris will be the biggest team in the comp
plus they have by far the best guard lineup especially with Australian guard Garret Schiebner
They will crush all before them again this year
They have last years state coach and from all reports they had Dale Ryan Rob Schiebner and other top coaches helping out at trials this week
They are putting all their recources into the team this year and it will be a one horse race GO CAPS
Man this is dog day afternoon! Every year someone writes the same stuff about BBI's supremacy in players resources coaches canteen tucker water bottles yada yada...then every year I just to do whats done every other year and write that "Well they bloody well better hope they crush everyone because with all that talent resources state coaches yada yada they will look silly if they dont" blah blah...
Then think about how silly that person is for writing that stuff and a) putting them under immense pressure and b) spoiling the "wow" factor for the group when they do make their debut because the hype beforehand has been so great.
...then I got to thinking and wondered if, just if, (not that I know anyone who would do this), but what say if there was an opposition coach who loves coaching underdog teams, maybe for instance times his teams run so as to scrape into the top 4 on countback and jump the supremacists in the semi before winning the GF and then classics, and they just start playing head games with the Brisso kids on Bendoes before the season even starts???
Sure its never been done before and never will be but its the sort of weird thoughts one can have on a dog day afternoon. haha
p.s. seriously though, like Macca did last year and Tueta the year before, Schiebner alone will make it very difficult to beat BBI this year let alone with their other stars and state and NBL coaches and stuff.
Gee I hope Cody's parents are earning frequent driver points, I could have sworn I saw him trialling at Northside on the weekend... If he trialled at Redlands, why didn't he make the team, surely they need a big? Someone said he was at Logan trials too???
He did make the team. And would have added a nice little wow factor combining with the likes of Alex Dart, Nathan Farley and Dylan D. Could have been great! But he is no bigger than the rest of the 4's and 5's in the team. So no hieght would have been added just attitude and 1 solid (physically) kid. Maybe he will see it fit to play next season with us?
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28-08-09, 16:49
Man this is dog day afternoon! Every year someone writes the same stuff about BBI's supremacy in players resources coaches canteen tucker water bottles yada yada...then every year I just to do whats done every other year and write that "Well they bloody well better hope they crush everyone because with all that talent resources state coaches yada yada they will look silly if they dont" blah blah...
Then think about how silly that person is for writing that stuff and a) putting them under immense pressure and b) spoiling the "wow" factor for the group when they do make their debut because the hype beforehand has been so great.
...then I got to thinking and wondered if, just if, (not that I know anyone who would do this), but what say if there was an opposition coach who loves coaching underdog teams, maybe for instance times his teams run so as to scrape into the top 4 on countback and jump the supremacists in the semi before winning the GF and then classics, and they just start playing head games with the Brisso kids on Bendoes before the season even starts???
Sure its never been done before and never will be but its the sort of weird thoughts one can have on a dog day afternoon. haha
p.s. seriously though, like Macca did last year and Tueta the year before, Schiebner alone will make it very difficult to beat BBI this year let alone with their other stars and state and NBL coaches and stuff.
HAHA at least this bought a smile to my face late on a Friday. I agree with alot of what you said though. BBI are the biggest association and as such there is always expectation they will do well. That said there have had years that have chronically under performed with so called Gun teams. the big two that spring to mind are the 2006 u18 boy Metros (7th i think with 6-7 QAS, State players) and the 1999 Metros (i think) where they won div 3 by over 100pts agsint the colts after dropping their first 2 pool games and being red hot favourites.
Yet other years they have succeeded when no one thought they would.
At the end of the day its a sport and there are always upsets. We love underdogs and we envy winners, but that's what makes sport and rivalries so great
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28-08-09, 21:32
Man this is dog day afternoon! Every year someone writes the same stuff about BBI's supremacy in players resources coaches canteen tucker water bottles yada yada...then every year I just to do whats done every other year and write that "Well they bloody well better hope they crush everyone because with all that talent resources state coaches yada yada they will look silly if they dont" blah blah...
Then think about how silly that person is for writing that stuff and a) putting them under immense pressure and b) spoiling the "wow" factor for the group when they do make their debut because the hype beforehand has been so great.
...then I got to thinking and wondered if, just if, (not that I know anyone who would do this), but what say if there was an opposition coach who loves coaching underdog teams, maybe for instance times his teams run so as to scrape into the top 4 on countback and jump the supremacists in the semi before winning the GF and then classics, and they just start playing head games with the Brisso kids on Bendoes before the season even starts???
Sure its never been done before and never will be but its the sort of weird thoughts one can have on a dog day afternoon. haha
p.s. seriously though, like Macca did last year and Tueta the year before, Schiebner alone will make it very difficult to beat BBI this year let alone with their other stars and state and NBL coaches and stuff.
I have no doubt this whole Brisbane are invincible propaganda is being driven by the master coach in this age group, Warrick Meehl.
M'Dore have won 12's, 14's and 16's as top agers and have 3 state players (all starters too) at their disposal, they are the undisputed favorites. Number one coach in the age group and that team that has only ever been beaten twice in 3 seasons as top agers, theres your favorites.
My order of finish
M'Dore first
Daylight
Brissy
Logan
Gold Coast
SD
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28-08-09, 22:27
I have no doubt this whole Brisbane are invincible propaganda is being driven by the master coach in this age group, Warrick Meehl.
M'Dore have won 12's, 14's and 16's as top agers and have 3 state players (all starters too) at their disposal, they are the undisputed favorites. Number one coach in the age group and that team that has only ever been beaten twice in 3 seasons as top agers, theres your favorites.
My order of finish
M'Dore first
Daylight
Brissy
Logan
Gold Coast
SD
bcoz winning at 12's 14's and 16's guarantees you'll cruise in 18's?
if thats the way maroochydore or brissy or anyone is thinking they'll get a rude awakening when reality hits them
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29-08-09, 05:44
bcoz winning at 12's 14's and 16's guarantees you'll cruise in 18's?
if thats the way maroochydore or brissy or anyone is thinking they'll get a rude awakening when reality hits them
Thats not how Maroochydore think and probably not Brisbane. (just some sycophant with a crush on Warwick needing ways to express it from afar cause he's a bloke too) not that theres anything wrong with that and in the nicest possible way but in his zeal to express it he doesnt realise he's untracked one of Warwicks key pre season strategies. (see previous BBI-centric post!)
Wouldnt be junior basketball but if there werent rabid Brissos on Bendoes talking themselves up at the start of every season and then giving every player in every team in every town the burning desire to smash the Brissos at Classics. (Pretty quirky but that most years its actually Warwick shit stirring and not rabid Brissos) Unfortunately sometimes they simply cant smash em because they really are that good. On those occasions as we all know its actually the refs fault, a BQ conspiracy in exchange for free rent, changes in the ozone layer and global warming. probably all three! Definately. Absolutely.
Used to get upset about it once when Bob Young's Metros would get smashed by 20 at the Qld Championships and he'd still pick 8 in the state team he coached and more recently when Bris got the same number in the state team as where they finished at classics - 7 !! But at the end of the day and theres waves breaking on the rail way track at Auchenflower we'll all realise as I do now that it would be so boring if there wasnt a BBI to "hate" and inspire us each year. Thankfully some things in the changing world of basketball we can always count on...the Brissos to "hate" (well, be jealous of) and Bendoes lighting up like christmas lights whenever Warwick coaches a team. Long may we run.
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29-08-09, 05:47
I have no doubt this whole Brisbane are invincible propaganda is being driven by the master coach in this age group, Warrick Meehl.
M'Dore have won 12's, 14's and 16's as top agers and have 3 state players (all starters too) at their disposal, they are the undisputed favorites. Number one coach in the age group and that team that has only ever been beaten twice in 3 seasons as top agers, theres your favorites.
My order of finish
M'Dore first
Daylight
Brissy
Logan
Gold Coast
SD
Your petticoats showing mate
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29-08-09, 15:52
[3 players in the state team - ????
QUOTE=Unregistered;19726]I have no doubt this whole Brisbane are invincible propaganda is being driven by the master coach in this age group, Warrick Meehl.
M'Dore have won 12's, 14's and 16's as top agers and have 3 state players (all starters too) at their disposal, they are the undisputed favorites. Number one coach in the age group and that team that has only ever been beaten twice in 3 seasons as top agers, theres your favorites.
My order of finish
M'Dore first
Daylight
Brissy
Logan
Gold Coast
SD[/QUOTE]
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29-08-09, 20:11
how is nick chia going to fit in the rotation at brissy?
he's a great player, but with garrett and other guards there, he will have a smaller role than he will be accustomed to
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29-08-09, 22:15
He did make the team. And would have added a nice little wow factor combining with the likes of Alex Dart, Nathan Farley and Dylan D. Could have been great! But he is no bigger than the rest of the 4's and 5's in the team. So no hieght would have been added just attitude and 1 solid (physically) kid. Maybe he will see it fit to play next season with us?
What happened at Logan, all their players are trialing everywhere else.
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29-08-09, 22:26
M'Dore have won 12's, 14's and 16's as top agers and have 3 state players (all starters too) at their disposal, they are the undisputed favorites.
My order of finish
M'Dore first
Daylight
Brissy
Logan
Gold Coast
SD
Mate are you on drugs, who are the 3 State players in the u18 Maroochydore team????? Seth is a great player but didn't make State, Sam Cabrea spends more time on the bench with injury than he does on the court and even when he's on the court he doesn't make much difference anyway. Other than that who do Maroochydore have that you reckon will smash all other Premier League teams. What Max Tauvo is playing for them this year, wooh hoo look out....hahaha.
Maroochydore welcome to Southern Cup.........again...lol
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29-08-09, 23:54
What happened at Logan, all their players are trialing everywhere else.
Same thing that happens at every association every rep season. Players come players go
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30-08-09, 05:40
Same thing that happens at every association every rep season. Players come players go
Here a thought, look after your players if they are leaving its for a reason, find out what these reasons are fix the problem not sweep it under the rug, or say there is nothing we can do. If you have talented players, their the ones you should be looking after. Why waste time developing these kids if your not their through to the end. The kids are all that matters. If they are finding they can't grow any further in a Assoc or no one gives a crap about them of course they will look for someone who does. Simple Really
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30-08-09, 10:24
Here a thought, look after your players if they are leaving its for a reason, find out what these reasons are fix the problem not sweep it under the rug, or say there is nothing we can do. If you have talented players, their the ones you should be looking after. Why waste time developing these kids if your not their through to the end. The kids are all that matters. If they are finding they can't grow any further in a Assoc or no one gives a crap about them of course they will look for someone who does. Simple Really
Agree to a point but its really not that cut and dried. Provide knowledgeable coaches who know their stuff and coach for the right reasons and associations will keep their kids is the bottom line. Just because a coach doesnt play your kid how you think they should be played in the vast majority of cases means your wrong not the coach.
Only recently that the culture of basketball has changed so much with a lot of newbys and club loyalty and stuff being a "last century" type of thing. Fortunately there are still kids who are proud to play for their club and with their friends and are willing to do the work to make their team better no matter what level of talent is signed up. These kids are actually the ones who usually make it in the sport if only for the reason that they learn how to play the game make adjustements play different roles and perform in a way that makes the whole team as good as they can be. Theres the side benefit too where their loyalty is valued by their association and if they have the talent will get recomended to a place where they can advance and make a go of it at the next level.
Then there's the child superstars who think they are already big time players (or is it just their parents?!) and so jump around associations trying to hook up with other like minded souls who mistakenly think if they can get enough child superstars in the one side they will go out and smash opposition teams and look like (as opposed to actually be) good players. The underlying motivation to this is of course so mum and dad can hopefully skite how their kid is a QLD rep. (Played in the superstar side and beat everyone course he's got to make state!) But youve already seen the shock horror and moral outrage and indignation when the kid either doesnt make the team or does and gets found out at the next level that they are really only an adequate player when in a stacked team. These kids are the ones you then see that go no further in the game because they never actually learnt how to play any other way than on a stacked team and having no association loyalty no association is loyal to them.
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30-08-09, 10:55
how is nick chia going to fit in the rotation at brissy?
he's a great player, but with garrett and other guards there, he will have a smaller role than he will be accustomed to
i think he would be better off playing silver and being the leader. if i remember correctly he did this in bottom age 16's and made the state team as a reserve bottom age, so he could do it again i imagine.
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30-08-09, 10:58
Agree to a point but its really not that cut and dried. Provide knowledgeable coaches who know their stuff and coach for the right reasons and associations will keep their kids is the bottom line. Just because a coach doesnt play your kid how you think they should be played in the vast majority of cases means your wrong not the coach.
Only recently that the culture of basketball has changed so much with a lot of newbys and club loyalty and stuff being a "last century" type of thing. Fortunately there are still kids who are proud to play for their club and with their friends and are willing to do the work to make their team better no matter what level of talent is signed up. These kids are actually the ones who usually make it in the sport if only for the reason that they learn how to play the game make adjustements play different roles and perform in a way that makes the whole team as good as they can be. Theres the side benefit too where their loyalty is valued by their association and if they have the talent will get recomended to a place where they can advance and make a go of it at the next level.
Then there's the child superstars who think they are already big time players (or is it just their parents?!) and so jump around associations trying to hook up with other like minded souls who mistakenly think if they can get enough child superstars in the one side they will go out and smash opposition teams and look like (as opposed to actually be) good players. The underlying motivation to this is of course so mum and dad can hopefully skite how their kid is a QLD rep. (Played in the superstar side and beat everyone course he's got to make state!) But youve already seen the shock horror and moral outrage and indignation when the kid either doesnt make the team or does and gets found out at the next level that they are really only an adequate player when in a stacked team. These kids are the ones you then see that go no further in the game because they never actually learnt how to play any other way than on a stacked team and having no association loyalty no association is loyal to them.
I wish it was so cut & dry. Logan do NO development during the off season for rep players. They also show no loyalty to their rep players & if you haven't played their since Moses was a boy you are treated as an outsider by their comittee.
What happened at Logan, all their players are trialing everywhere else.
Just a thought. I dont know why the LBI boys were shopping around. But I think you will find the bottom age 18s are all looking for a PL spot to continue thier own personal development. I think those assoc with a strong top age element have seen some movement.
Just a thought. I dont know why the LBI boys were shopping around. But I think you will find the bottom age 18s are all looking for a PL spot to continue thier own personal development. I think those assoc with a strong top age element have seen some movement.
i would have to agree, with wizards for instance, we are running a group of 40 odd players, 90% whom are bottom age 18s.
our last trials are today, naming either 2 or 3 teams, then we have a camp on the GC for those chosen next week to decide final team listings.
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30-08-09, 12:02
I wish it was so cut & dry. Logan do NO development during the off season for rep players. They also show no loyalty to their rep players & if you haven't played their since Moses was a boy you are treated as an outsider by their comittee.
You nailed it about Logan-even if you have played there since Moses was a baby the committee have their own agenda and as someone posted previously some of the so called future stars Logan have annointed! will be proven otherwise.
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30-08-09, 12:08
I wish it was so cut & dry. Logan do NO development during the off season for rep players. They also show no loyalty to their rep players & if you haven't played their since Moses was a boy you are treated as an outsider by their comittee.
I think you will also find ever since WNBL for logan junior develoment has taken a back seat. We have a new commitee as far as I know hopefully things will get better. I no my kids don't want to play any where else. And I am so proud of them for it because as a parent I wasn't thinking that way. It is to easy to go somewhere else. As long as my kids are happy thats all I care about.
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30-08-09, 12:24
I think you will also find ever since WNBL for logan junior develoment has taken a back seat. We have a new commitee as far as I know hopefully things will get better. I no my kids don't want to play any where else. And I am so proud of them for it because as a parent I wasn't thinking that way. It is to easy to go somewhere else. As long as my kids are happy thats all I care about.
You will find the new committee, is the same one they had when when wnbl was starting up. So good luck with thinking junior development will improve especially in the 14 to 18s age group with this very same committee.
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30-08-09, 12:50
You will find the new committee, is the same one they had when when wnbl was starting up. So good luck with thinking junior development will improve especially in the 14 to 18s age group with this very same committee.
I don't even know who is in the committee at logan or who to go to with any problems I may have. Would help if each Assoc had on there web site a suggestion box or a complain tab so us as parents do have a say as well.
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30-08-09, 12:56
unlikely, that team is stacked!
I think spartans, bbi, GC and maroochy will be tough. Logan and Northside are a young group.
not sure where Ippy, Coastal and SW have....
Logan, young group?
team was picked today and there are only 2 bottom age players?
how is that young?
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30-08-09, 13:04
I wish it was so cut & dry. Logan do NO development during the off season for rep players. They also show no loyalty to their rep players & if you haven't played their since Moses was a boy you are treated as an outsider by their comittee.
Have had a bit to do with Logan over time and cant agree with most of that. They do great development of players and have good coaches available. But if your looking for social recognition on the committee its another matter. Kids who have it and want to play have as good a shot at Logan as anywhere else.
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30-08-09, 14:05
Logan, young group?
team was picked today and there are only 2 bottom age players?
how is that young?
Who got picked and are there two teams who got into which team?
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30-08-09, 14:12
Who got picked and are there two teams who got into which team?
Can I just ask what are the kids doing now there are no under 20 teams for rep. Is something else going to be organized? Will they be able to put teams together for classics even if there is no rep season? Why did this happen in the first place?
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30-08-09, 17:37
You will find the new committee, is the same one they had when when wnbl was starting up. So good luck with thinking junior development will improve especially in the 14 to 18s age group with this very same committee.
Sorry there! I think you should check the credibility of your information as Logan has a new committee and a new coaching panel.
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30-08-09, 17:39
I don't even know who is in the committee at logan or who to go to with any problems I may have. Would help if each Assoc had on there web site a suggestion box or a complain tab so us as parents do have a say as well.
Here is the link for the Logan Committee, taken straight of the website, which has been there since early July - http://www.logan.basketball.net.au/FS_extra.asp?id=35427&OrgID=91
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30-08-09, 17:42
Can I just ask what are the kids doing now there are no under 20 teams for rep. Is something else going to be organized? Will they be able to put teams together for classics even if there is no rep season? Why did this happen in the first place?
That's a very valid point! Would be good to organise a carnival, like Classics, for us to play in! Think they are still looking though at the format of an U20 Rep program
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30-08-09, 18:31
Here is the link for the Logan Committee, taken straight of the website, which has been there since early July - http://www.logan.basketball.net.au/FS_extra.asp?id=35427&OrgID=91
Is this the same committe that was voted in?
As 4 development @ Logan ....great if ur a girl
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30-08-09, 19:24
I think you will also find ever since WNBL for logan junior develoment has taken a back seat. We have a new commitee as far as I know hopefully things will get better. I no my kids don't want to play any where else. And I am so proud of them for it because as a parent I wasn't thinking that way. It is to easy to go somewhere else. As long as my kids are happy thats all I care about.
That is the committee i was talking about
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30-08-09, 19:53
I don't even know who is in the committee at logan or who to go to with any problems I may have. Would help if each Assoc had on there web site a suggestion box or a complain tab so us as parents do have a say as well.
Members approach the General Manager of an organisation to discuss what "problems" they might have. The general manager is a salaried and experienced person who can assess the validity of their problem and suggest or enact a solution. The Committee are volunteers and their roles are administrative not operational. Thats the way it works in functional organisations and Logan is one of them.
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30-08-09, 19:58
Who got picked and are there two teams who got into which team?
dont know all the last names, or the spelling of last names,
Donivon Ritson
Argon ? (from spartans)
Grant Durak (capt.)
Matt Woock,
Anthony Matthew,
Michael Matthew,
Brad Myers,
Brad Saul,
Ian Burns,
Julian ?,
Nathan Seiler,
Jim Scoins,
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30-08-09, 20:02
I have no doubt this whole Brisbane are invincible propaganda is being driven by the master coach in this age group, Warrick Meehl.
Number one coach in the age group and that team that has only ever been beaten twice in 3 seasons as top agers, theres your favorites.
Apparently at least one other credentialled coach at Maroochy doesnt agree with your esteemed opinion and has taken his son to Northside for the coming season.
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30-08-09, 20:05
Sorry there! I think you should check the credibility of your information as Logan has a new committee and a new coaching panel.
Who is the new coaching panel.
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30-08-09, 20:10
Is this premier what about southern
dont know all the last names, or the spelling of last names,
Donivon Ritson
Argon ? (from spartans)
Grant Durak (capt.)
Matt Woock,
Anthony Matthew,
Michael Matthew,
Brad Myers,
Brad Saul,
Ian Burns,
Julian ?,
Nathan Seiler,
Jim Scoins,
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30-08-09, 20:57
Is this the same committe that was voted in?
As 4 development @ Logan ....great if ur a girl
Isn't the new president the wife of the old president.
All the committee is made of parents of U/16 girls, wouldn't be interested in developing boys
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31-08-09, 11:39
The biggest problem in any sporting asscoiation isnt usually the committee's or the players its usually the parents the people with all the snide remarks that dont put there hand up to help out that dont put the hours in that some of the people on the committee's of all these associations do and the coaches, they are just the people who stand in the background throwing mud in every direction they can and then when they are out of mud they move on to another association. Kids these days are taught that if they get a coach they dont like or they dont get the time they deserve well easy solution is move and most of the time the same thing happens becuase usually its not the assocaition or the coach thats the issue its the parent of a child who if asked probably didnt want to leave his mates in the first place.
Sometimes its hard to tell who the kids are and who the parents are because half the parents often act like kids. At the same time i dont wish to generalise becuase there are soem wonderfulfamilies involved in all sports. The big issue is are the people who get involved involved because they enjoy it, for the kids (all the kids) and they have soemthing to offer or are people getting involved as a hidden agenda to promote their own childs outcomes ?? a cynical veiw perhaps.
maybe its would be great to see people only put positive things about coaches and asscoiations on here and kept the rubbish in house
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31-08-09, 13:01
This might be the case in most cases parents are putting alot of money into their kids so they do expect something in return. Most of the time a fair go is all they are looking for, also parents do put alot of their time in driving their kids to where they have to go, score keeping, being managers, developing there kids at home, working more hours so there kids can afford join these Assoc so it is a bit unfair to say the parent do nothing. They use this forum because they feel if they have anything bad to say face to face with there Assoc it will go against them or their kid. Maybe if regular meeting at there Assoc like at schools so parents can have there say it might help with better commnication all round. But are you willing to listen and make changes to the problems or concerns or any ideas they may have?
[QUOTE=Unregistered;19806]The biggest problem in any sporting asscoiation isnt usually the committee's or the players its usually the parents
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31-08-09, 14:00
gee whiz I truly hope you are kidding surely a parent does all that for a child in the hope they have fun stay healthy meet some friends and stay out of trouble rather than looking for a RETURN ON INVESTMENT?? IF THATS THE CASE VERY VEry sad. I am not on a committee I avoid them like a plaugue but I am always willing to help and I make it a rule unless u are prepared to put your hand up then shut up.
And in my experience yes most problems and hassles are caused but 1 or 2 parents where as the other 98% are great. If you are looking for a return on investment how about just healthy happy well balanced kids who can deal with the good and bad of life
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31-08-09, 15:36
gee whiz I truly hope you are kidding surely a parent does all that for a child in the hope they have fun stay healthy meet some friends and stay out of trouble rather than looking for a RETURN ON INVESTMENT?? IF THATS THE CASE VERY VEry sad. I am not on a committee I avoid them like a plaugue but I am always willing to help and I make it a rule unless u are prepared to put your hand up then shut up.
And in my experience yes most problems and hassles are caused but 1 or 2 parents where as the other 98% are great. If you are looking for a return on investment how about just healthy happy well balanced kids who can deal with the good and bad of life
If thats how you read then your a idiot.
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31-08-09, 15:51
gee whiz I truly hope you are kidding surely a parent does all that for a child in the hope they have fun stay healthy meet some friends and stay out of trouble rather than looking for a RETURN ON INVESTMENT?? IF THATS THE CASE VERY VEry sad. I am not on a committee I avoid them like a plaugue but I am always willing to help and I make it a rule unless u are prepared to put your hand up then shut up.
And in my experience yes most problems and hassles are caused but 1 or 2 parents where as the other 98% are great. If you are looking for a return on investment how about just healthy happy well balanced kids who can deal with the good and bad of life
So what you are saying if parents have some concerns they should shut there mouths, I'm not talking about parents who take it to far and get a kick out of winging. I'm talking about general complaints. And stop adding words to my comments talking yourself up. See its people like you that makes more out of something then what it is.
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31-08-09, 16:44
This might be the case in most cases parents are putting alot of money into their kids so they do expect something in return. Most of the time a fair go is all they are looking for, also parents do put alot of their time in driving their kids to where they have to go, score keeping, being managers, developing there kids at home, working more hours so there kids can afford join these Assoc so it is a bit unfair to say the parent do nothing. They use this forum because they feel if they have anything bad to say face to face with there Assoc it will go against them or their kid. Maybe if regular meeting at there Assoc like at schools so parents can have there say it might help with better commnication all round. But are you willing to listen and make changes to the problems or concerns or any ideas they may have?
[QUOTE=Unregistered;19806]The biggest problem in any sporting asscoiation isnt usually the committee's or the players its usually the parents
Unfortunately I'd have to agree that most parents do not do much at all. Those who do Manage teams are not usually the ones with complaints about how things are being run, as they are involved enough to have their voice heard through proper channels, not in a public forum, trying to rally support behind their cause.
Most teams would have 7+ players but when it comes to scorebenching it is usually the same 2 or 3 parents week in week out doin the job. Some clubs have mandatory rosters and the parents show up out of the fact they have to, rather than "helping out"
To all the Parents that are involved as Coaches, Committee Members, Managers, Volunteers etc... I congratulate you on being part of the solution, not the problem. The fact is the workload is spread across the few, not the many.
In regard to appropriate avenues to discuss your concerns I would suggest your Club President or Committee as one person generally involved on the association committee who you can safely talk with who can raise your concerns at the association level. Someone on the committee you know, or the General Manager if your association has one. If your association is not addressing your concerns, are they realistic concerns? If they are but the association is going in another direction, then that association may not be the right fit for you. If you have the same issue in multiple associations, then the problem might be you.
Over the last few years I've been a Player, Club Coach, Rep Coach, Committee Member and QBL Coach, pretty much everything but parent, so I can very clearly see who puts what in, and who doesn't, without any agenda for my own or my childrens gain.
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31-08-09, 17:35
dont know all the last names, or the spelling of last names,
Donivon Ritson
Argon ? (from spartans)
Grant Durak (capt.)
Matt Woock,
Anthony Matthew,
Michael Matthew,
Brad Myers,
Brad Saul,
Ian Burns,
Julian ?,
Nathan Seiler,
Jim Scoins,
Is it true that Argon got a scholarship to a university in America ? I was speaking to one of his close mates and he told me argon got offered a scholarship to some really good university!
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31-08-09, 17:55
Is it true that Argon got a scholarship to a university in America ? I was speaking to one of his close mates and he told me argon got offered a scholarship to some really good university!
If Argon received a scholarship to the States, it definitely isn't a Basketball Scholarship
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01-09-09, 00:24
If Argon received a scholarship to the States, it definitely isn't a Basketball Scholarship
agon is a good player, and he has potential there, very strong and explosive, nice rhythm when shooting, holds up on defence, and has good height for a 2/3 man. But unless he decides to be more of a team player he's never gonna get anywhere with basketball
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01-09-09, 14:08
Apparently at least one other credentialled coach at Maroochy doesnt agree with your esteemed opinion and has taken his son to Northside for the coming season.
Yeah Vern coached this Mdore team for 4 seasons and had major problems with several parents. A particularly bad group by all accounts
Even after he stepped aside he and his son were still copping shit and they have simply had enough. After a year in the US they did not want to go back to the same old faces and simply want a change of scenery and a fresh start
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01-09-09, 14:11
Argon certainly has the ability to play in college It is just a matter of being seen by the right p[eople at the right time Good luck
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01-09-09, 16:48
Argon certainly has the ability to play in college It is just a matter of being seen by the right p[eople at the right time Good luck
Maybe in the future but at the moment the list of kids that would be selected before him is fairly long. Isn't quite at the stage in his development where he can take the next step.
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01-09-09, 16:59
I dont know what list you're taking about his definetly one of the top players - can score very well. Personally believe will do well in America, has Garrett got a scholarship as well?
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01-09-09, 17:22
I dont know what list you're taking about his definetly one of the top players - can score very well. Personally believe will do well in America, has Garrett got a scholarship as well?
Case point. "One of the top players". At the top? No.
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01-09-09, 18:16
Argon certainly has the ability to play in college It is just a matter of being seen by the right p[eople at the right time Good luck
Argon can play, although he is one of the worst ball hogs in the league. If he could learn to pass the ball the kid might have a chance at College ball. But at the moment there are a lot more deserving kids that have a chance of playing in the States.
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01-09-09, 18:34
Argon can play, although he is one of the worst ball hogs in the league. If he could learn to pass the ball the kid might have a chance at College ball. But at the moment there are a lot more deserving kids that have a chance of playing in the States.
couldnt agree with you more.
Has Garrett got a scholarship lined up?
Now thats a kid with a good basketball attitude and work ethic
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03-09-09, 06:08
couldnt agree with you more.
Has Garrett got a scholarship lined up?
Now thats a kid with a good basketball attitude and work ethic
he's not that good...
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03-09-09, 06:10
Case point. "One of the top players". At the top? No.
list plz...
I'll start
Anthony Matthews
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03-09-09, 06:51
list plz...
I'll start
Anthony Matthews
So you are obviously the same guy who doesn't rate G Scheibner, with the posts 2 minutes apart. Lets see you try and defend the kid, and I am sure you wouldn't get near the basket with him defending you!
By your ranking, you are telling us all that A. Matthews is a better player than Garett? Where has Anthony been for the past 12 months? You expect us all to believe that he has mysteriously improved his game without playing against any quality at all??? Matthews is a good player, no doubt, but you do not become elite without testing your skills against quality on a regular basis.
Another hater..
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03-09-09, 08:14
list plz...
I'll start
Anthony Matthews
Hahaha sorry mate never heard of him...
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03-09-09, 11:57
he's not that good...
He just played for Australia in the u17 side, and you say he's not that good. If there is a player in BQJBC better, obviously the National Selectors are not aware of him.
I've never heard of this Anthony Matthews kid either.
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03-09-09, 16:39
He just played for Australia in the u17 side, and you say he's not that good. If there is a player in BQJBC better, obviously the National Selectors are not aware of him.
I've never heard of this Anthony Matthews kid either.
no hate here
just reality check
stop big noting Garrett
so he played with Oz team big whoop
saw all 3 games
no more said on that one
A Matthews needs no intro
you will see/hear of him soon enuff
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03-09-09, 17:32
A Matthews needs no intro
you will see/hear of him soon enuff
When stuff like that is said kids get embarrassed mum and dad ;)
no hate here
just reality check
stop big noting Garrett
so he played with Oz team big whoop
saw all 3 games
no more said on that one
A Matthews needs no intro
you will see/hear of him soon enuff
Garrett deserves any credit/kudos he gets.
"so he played with Oz team big whoop"
umm, yes it is a big deal. how many people get to represent their country in ANY sport. i didn't bother reading the rest.
put the crack pipe down, its for your own good.
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03-09-09, 18:45
When stuff like that is said kids get embarrassed mum and dad ;)
not related...just seen him playing
u'll c him soon enough
its called bromance
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04-09-09, 08:44
no hate here
just reality check
stop big noting Garrett
so he played with Oz team big whoop
saw all 3 games
no more said on that one
A Matthews needs no intro
you will see/hear of him soon enuff
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"saw all 3 games
no more said on that one"
Hes playing , your watching
no more said on that one
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04-09-09, 08:52
no hate here
just reality check
stop big noting Garrett
so he played with Oz team big whoop
saw all 3 games
no more said on that one
A Matthews needs no intro
you will see/hear of him soon enuff
I agree with the other posters. He is playing champ, you are wathcing. Straight away you are not in a position to talk him down.
Furthermore he isnt out there talking him self up and acting like his the man. He has patience, humility, plenty of game and top of that he is just a great kid.
Im sure playing in the green and gold for the first time would be bloody daunting and probably nerve-wrecking. Add to that a home crowd who expect you to 'light it up' and you would probably be a lil gun shy too. The more games he plays the more confidence he will get in that singlet and then look out.
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04-09-09, 12:06
who do people think will make div 1 from the grading tourney this season???
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04-09-09, 13:24
who do people think will make div 1 from the grading tourney this season???
Brisbane 1
Gold Coast
Maroochydore
Southern Districts
Brisbane 2
Logan
In that order. There are 6 teams right?
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04-09-09, 15:18
Brisbane 1
Gold Coast
Maroochydore
Southern Districts
Brisbane 2
Logan
In that order. There are 6 teams right?
BBI 1
GC
Runaway Bay
Maroochy
Logan
NS
SW
SD
*8 teams
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04-09-09, 21:47
BBI 1
GC
Runaway Bay
Maroochy
Logan
NS
SW
SD
*8 teams
Who will south west have playing for them?
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04-09-09, 22:30
brisbane teams announced
Brisbane Junior Capitals U/18 Boys Capitals Gold Team
Brendan Carrol
Nicholas Chia
Anthony Kelly
Garret Scheibner
Toby Schulz
Matthew Strybos
Jeremy Kelly
Beau Bergan
Ben Bergan
TBA
Brisbane Junior Capitals U/18 Boys Capitals Silver Squad
Nicholas Dickenson
Liam Emery
Steve Fogarty
Jon Roth
Henry Cunningham
Max Quinlan Ward
Brandon Hewitt-Holloway
Josh Kohout
Riley Mcnamara
Akech Akoubeny
Rafal Mathiut
Lachlan Barnes
Justin Schultz
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04-09-09, 22:33
brisbane teams announced
Brisbane Junior Capitals U/18 Boys Capitals Gold Team
Brendan Carrol
Nicholas Chia
Anthony Kelly
Garret Scheibner
Toby Schulz
Matthew Strybos
Jeremy Kelly
Beau Bergan
Ben Bergan
TBA
Wow.... That looks pretty hard to beat. Just when you thought BBI couldn't make an improvement on last year.
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04-09-09, 23:06
brisbane teams announced
Brisbane Junior Capitals U/18 Boys Capitals Gold Team
Brendan Carrol
Nicholas Chia
Anthony Kelly
Garret Scheibner
Toby Schulz
Matthew Strybos
Jeremy Kelly
Beau Bergan
Ben Bergan
TBA
Brisbane Junior Capitals U/18 Boys Capitals Silver Squad
Nicholas Dickenson
Liam Emery
Steve Fogarty
Jon Roth
Henry Cunningham
Max Quinlan Ward
Brandon Hewitt-Holloway
Josh Kohout
Riley Mcnamara
Akech Akoubeny
Rafal Mathiut
Lachlan Barnes
Justin Schultz
no real suprises there. except for the tba?? is it going to be someone in the silver squad?
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05-09-09, 07:04
Wow.... That looks pretty hard to beat. Just when you thought BBI couldn't make an improvement on last year.
Dont get me wrong this years team for Brisbane is a good team but it isnt as good as last years. Not even close. Last year was a special team, the type that doesn't come around to often and im sure if you ask any of the boys that played in it they will tell you the same.
Judging by the amount of names in the Silver team i would assume thats where the 'TBA' player will come from for the gold team. That would then leave 12 in silver (unless they make more cuts) as there is currently 13 names which is one to many.
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05-09-09, 09:12
Dont get me wrong this years team for Brisbane is a good team but it isnt as good as last years. Not even close. Last year was a special team, the type that doesn't come around to often and im sure if you ask any of the boys that played in it they will tell you the same.
Judging by the amount of names in the Silver team i would assume thats where the 'TBA' player will come from for the gold team. That would then leave 12 in silver (unless they make more cuts) as there is currently 13 names which is one to many.
I'm not too sure about that. Macca is more talented individually than all the players but if you compare individually then this years team is stronger. But teamwork is still to be tested i guess.
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05-09-09, 09:40
I'm not too sure about that. Macca is more talented individually than all the players but if you compare individually then this years team is stronger. But teamwork is still to be tested i guess.
We will have to agree to disagree
Last year This year Result
Willow BC Tie
Macca Garret Tie
Pat AK Tie - very different players though but both bring alot
Funda Bergan I Funda wins this one (bergans need alot of work)
Eric JK Eric wins this one
BC Chia Tie
Corban Schultz Corban by a mile
Garret ? I assume this is the TBA player - Garret wins here
West NA not that many players yr
Buffington NA not that many players this yr
Coleman Bergan II
JK Strybos Strybos on technique, JK on shear size
Last years team was alot deeper. It has 3 All Australians and 5 state players. They went 23-0 for there rep campaign.
Anyway we will see
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05-09-09, 23:20
So who do we think will be biggest cometition for BBI
let alone, who will be top teams at classics...
So who do we think will be biggest cometition for BBI
let alone, who will be top teams at classics...
Man, Classics is in May 2010, we're just working on the upcoming Grading tournaments.
As far as I know NS will be stronger, heard good things about their offseason moves (camp in progress as we speak, hopefully ALW spills the beans next week), BBI obviously will be competitive x 2, SWM have added at least one new player, retained a State player from last season and have a veteran coach who has won it all before, Haze at Logan has been around a while and knows his stuff, not sure how they are going player-wise though with some key moves away, Gold Coast can never be counted out, Bryan is back for another run from what I read on their website, always entertaining, Spartans won U18 SC last season IIRC so they will be solid...I would hope Redlands would be in the mix as well for PL. Quality experienced coach and their early tryout dates means they get the drop on other associations. They did it last year, here's hoping for a repeat performance.
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05-09-09, 23:52
what team is agon hafuzi in?
what team is agon hafuzi in?
Logan
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06-09-09, 10:18
Who will start for bbi gold and silver?
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06-09-09, 10:18
Logan
I think you will find that he is also linked with SWM along with Forde who is back from WA. Re-living their U 12 days with the Pirates and S mines as the HC.
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06-09-09, 16:33
Who will start for bbi gold and silver?
GOLD:
G - Brendan Carroll
G - Garrett Scheibner
F - Bergen
F - Bergen
C - Jeremy Kelly
SILVER:
G - Brandon Holloway
G - Nick Dickinson
F - Josh Koghut
F - ?
C - Akech
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06-09-09, 16:42
I think you will find that he is also linked with SWM along with Forde who is back from WA. Re-living their U 12 days with the Pirates and S mines as the HC.
I think you are wrong,
I heard Mines gave Agon a call,
asking him if he wanted to play for SWM,
But Agon never went to the trials,
I think everyone is underestimating Logan,
They have alot more top age players, unlike they usually do
with Agon Hafuzi and Donovan Ritson from SD,
Michael and Anthony Matthews from GC,
and Jim Scoins from T'Ville.
The only two bottom age players both made state last season, for top age 16's
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06-09-09, 17:48
I think you are wrong,
I heard Mines gave Agon a call,
asking him if he wanted to play for SWM,
But Agon never went to the trials,
I think everyone is underestimating Logan,
They have alot more top age players, unlike they usually do
with Agon Hafuzi and Donovan Ritson from SD,
Michael and Anthony Matthews from GC,
and Jim Scoins from T'Ville.
The only two bottom age players both made state last season, for top age 16's
Well I hope Logan enjoy being in PL this year, cause they certainly won't be in the 2010/11 season. Is someone making sure the coach is staying on his medication with the team with the team he has picked? No Roger Morris? Does anyone care to explain or at things are Logan just going to get crazier by the moment? Oh & the u16 state team didn't get very far did they.
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06-09-09, 19:36
That is a very good team for logan they will press every team and have a shot at the title
Looking like A very competitive season with some very good teams. More so than top age 16s
I note no mention of Maroochydore again are they good or not
Can anyone update on them
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06-09-09, 20:05
Well I hope Logan enjoy being in PL this year, cause they certainly won't be in the 2010/11 season. Is someone making sure the coach is staying on his medication with the team with the team he has picked? No Roger Morris? Does anyone care to explain or at things are Logan just going to get crazier by the moment? Oh & the u16 state team didn't get very far did they.
Roger was the MVP of the U16 side, yet couldn't find his way into the PL team???
Perhaps a little limited offensively, but one of the best defensive players in the bottom age group. Brad & Ian are probably more athletic & looked more impressive at trials, some players just don't trial well...
Anyway Roger will definitely make the second Logan team a lot more difficult a match up for opposing teams & may turn them into genuine SC contenders, considering they also have the unstoppable Peter...
Roger was the MVP of the U16 side, yet couldn't find his way into the PL team???
Perhaps a little limited offensively, but one of the best defensive players in the bottom age group. Brad & Ian are probably more athletic & looked more impressive at trials, some players just don't trial well...
Anyway Roger will definitely make the second Logan team a lot more difficult a match up for opposing teams & may turn them into genuine SC contenders, considering they also have the unstoppable Peter...
Whereabouts are you getting the Logan teams from? Not listed on their website as far as I can see. Rumour has it there is a trial game between a Logan U18 team and Redlands in the near future, should be interesting.
For what it's worth Redlands White U18 is also looking for any games we can get against suitable U18 Rep opposition, feel free to email me at csmith55 at internode dot on dot net if your team is looking for a run prior to BQJBC.
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07-09-09, 07:54
GOLD:
G - Brendan Carroll
G - Garrett Scheibner
F - Bergen
F - Bergen
C - Jeremy Kelly
SILVER:
G - Brandon Holloway
G - Nick Dickinson
F - Josh Koghut
F - ?
C - Akech
Source or just guess work?
Man, Classics is in May 2010, we're just working on the upcoming Grading tournaments.
As far as I know NS will be stronger, heard good things about their offseason moves (camp in progress as we speak, hopefully ALW spills the beans next week), BBI obviously will be competitive x 2, SWM have added at least one new player, retained a State player from last season and have a veteran coach who has won it all before, Haze at Logan has been around a while and knows his stuff, not sure how they are going player-wise though with some key moves away, Gold Coast can never be counted out, Bryan is back for another run from what I read on their website, always entertaining, Spartans won U18 SC last season IIRC so they will be solid...I would hope Redlands would be in the mix as well for PL. Quality experienced coach and their early tryout dates means they get the drop on other associations. They did it last year, here's hoping for a repeat performance.
one thing for sure the team will be bottom age dominated....teams have not been released, looking to do this midweek.
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07-09-09, 11:25
Yeah Vern coached this Mdore team for 4 seasons and had major problems with several parents. A particularly bad group by all accounts
Even after he stepped aside he and his son were still copping shit and they have simply had enough. After a year in the US they did not want to go back to the same old faces and simply want a change of scenery and a fresh start
A little bit confused it think. Vern was the problem and everyone was pleased to see him leave.
His son never was a problem , a good kid. NS dont know what they are in for.
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07-09-09, 11:53
A little bit confused it think. Vern was the problem and everyone was pleased to see him leave.
His son never was a problem , a good kid. NS dont know what they are in for.
Confusing for sure! Not sure just who "everyone at Maroochydore" is supposed to be as I never heard Vern being thought of as a problem by anyone who knows him (even people whose kids are competing for court time with his kids ...well the vast majority anyway)
Strange indeed. But if he does turn out a problem then it will be some small pay back for the discards with their baggage that Northside have sent Maroochydore's way the last year.
A little bit confused it think. Vern was the problem and everyone was pleased to see him leave.
His son never was a problem , a good kid. NS dont know what they are in for.
I have known Vern since I was 13, I have known him whilst I was a referee, a trialing sunny coast schoolboy, played against his teams as a junior player and I have also coached against him in u14s and u16s.
I can not say a bad word about him and I know exactly what I am in for.
I also know many great Maroochydore people that would not say a bad word against Vern or his boys and looks like the above post was from the the bitter minority.
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07-09-09, 13:39
I also know many great Maroochydore people that would not say a bad word against Vern or his boys and looks like the above post was from the the bitter minority.
"Recent" bitter minority I would say. (I know Bruce Bravard got the most glowing praises from Sid at the recent reunion function but Vern wasnt too far behind) Many people at M'dore were hoping Vern would have the opportunity to bring some of his SEABL and NCAA experience to the men's programs. Shame when its the good ones that leave.
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07-09-09, 13:48
Cannot sit by and let those comments about Vern go
Vern is the best player the best coach and the best person I have encountered at Maroochydore
He has helped me personally throgh two seasons and I hold him in the highest regard in every way
The strange thing is that he is always positive upbeat and never speaks ill of others. He volunteers numerous hours of coaching to help young players
I guess this type of comment is why they chose to have a change of scenery
I am bitterly dissapointed that he is not with us this year and Nside are very fortunate
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07-09-09, 16:31
Don't know if anyone could offer me any advice on this, but...
What kind of credentials do you need to coach at aba and possibly even nbl/college level?
Are coaching certs a must? Or is experience what counts?
Don't know if anyone could offer me any advice on this, but...
What kind of credentials do you need to coach at aba and possibly even nbl/college level?
Are coaching certs a must? Or is experience what counts?
what level are you currently and what have you done?
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09-09-09, 11:15
There seems to be some buzz about an U20s rep season this year after all.... I got a call this morning about it being posted on the Logan website and sure enough it is, but nothing so far on the BQ website. Does anyone know what's happening?
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09-09-09, 11:38
There seems to be some buzz about an U20s rep season this year after all.... I got a call this morning about it being posted on the Logan website and sure enough it is, but nothing so far on the BQ website. Does anyone know what's happening?
This is great News for the kids better late then never. So guess the next step is Trials.
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09-09-09, 12:02
There seems to be some buzz about an U20s rep season this year after all.... I got a call this morning about it being posted on the Logan website and sure enough it is, but nothing so far on the BQ website. Does anyone know what's happening?
U20 BQJBC a goer
The BQJBC season will have both an U20 Female and Male Competition. The majority vote on the structure of the competitions are below:
Female – Proceed with 4 teams and play 4 rounds (12 weeks) with 2 weeks of finals – total 14 weeks
Male – Proceed with 7 teams and play 2 rounds (14 weeks) with 2 weeks of finals – total 16 weeks
Nominations are due for release later this week.
So Mr Ben it looks like you put back the under 20 rep forum back up.
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13-09-09, 18:14
Who will south west have playing for them?
south west havent chosen there teams yet
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13-09-09, 18:56
Hey,
Can someone please inform me about these recent QAS scholarships being handed out?
Whos got one?
Whos giving them out?
Where do they go from there?
Thanks.
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13-09-09, 21:26
20'S baby!!!
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15-09-09, 09:39
I see the Runcorn Blues side has been announced oh sorry did i say runcorn blues
gee why did i say that woops i meant to say the South West Pirates side has been posted
a serverly pissed off Mr Plumridge
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15-09-09, 11:09
I see the Runcorn Blues side has been announced oh sorry did i say runcorn blues
gee why did i say that woops i meant to say the South West Pirates side has been posted
a serverly pissed off Mr Plumridge
could someone please post on the South West team.
would like to see what Mines has lined up.
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15-09-09, 11:36
Div 1 Div 2
Keenan Stepanicic Jordan Plumridge
George Dilla Liam Plumridge
George Wong Andrew Kelly
Sam Voss Luke O'Donnell
Christian Lam Georgen Stathis
Andrew Crace Jordan Pelizzari
Bruce Lee Michael Devitt
Stephen Kiir Liam Mahood
Nick Fane Josh Capri
Milan Ninkovic Matt Harris
Robert Sullivan Nicholas Sankey
Alex Donnelly
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15-09-09, 11:41
Div 1
Keenan Stepanicic
George Dilla
George Wong
Sam Voss
Christian Lam
Andrew Crace
Bruce Lee
Stephen Kiir
Nick Fane
Milan Ninkovic
Robert Sullivan
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15-09-09, 11:44
Div 2
Jordan Plumridge
Liam Plumridge
Andrew Kelly
Luke O'Donnell
Georgen Stathis
Jordan Pelizzari
Michael Devitt
Liam Mahood
Josh Capri
Matt Harris
Nicholas Sankey
Alex Donnelly
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15-09-09, 13:29
Div 1
Keenan Stepanicic
George Dilla
George Wong
Sam Voss
Christian Lam
Andrew Crace
Bruce Lee
Stephen Kiir
Nick Fane
Milan Ninkovic
Robert Sullivan
thanks seems like quite an alright team a few names i havent heard of before.
GL to southwest.
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15-09-09, 14:53
[Div 1 Div 2
Keenan Stepanicic Jordan Plumridge
George Dilla Liam Plumridge
George Wong Andrew Kelly
Sam Voss Luke O'Donnell
Christian Lam Georgen Stathis
Andrew Crace Jordan Pelizzari
Bruce Lee Michael Devitt
Stephen Kiir Liam Mahood
Nick Fane Josh Capri
Milan Ninkovic Matt Harris
Robert Sullivan Nicholas Sankey
Alex Donnelly[/QUOTE]
Div 1 / Div 2 : when was the grading tournament held??
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15-09-09, 20:24
does anyone know who townsville hav this year?
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15-09-09, 23:02
I see the Runcorn Blues side has been announced oh sorry did i say runcorn blues
gee why did i say that woops i meant to say the South West Pirates side has been posted
a serverly pissed off Mr Plumridge
the runcorn blues are the best club team in south west so stop complaining. obviously they pick the players from the best team. But liam plumridge deserves to be in div1.
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16-09-09, 07:55
the runcorn blues are the best club team in south west so stop complaining. obviously they pick the players from the best team. But liam plumridge deserves to be in div1.
did i complain I stated a fact
and runcorn blues is teh ebst club team why, becuase players are promised div 1 positions if they come play at runcorn blues, just look at the recent converts
Its the coaches right to pick who he wants for his side but question have to be answered when there are obvious omissions, if the coach has a reasonable explanation for why he left players that should be in the side out then so be it and at the momment I am just talking about players who should be in the side on ability.
if he wanted a bootom age side that he could develop then he should have told all the boys that at the start of trials, or he should have coached the second side and been a development coach for the younger players, most other associations respect the top age players not slap them in the face when they are eiether as good as the bottom age boys or better.
I have no issue with Jordan Not making the side he was always a maybe, Liam's omission however is absolutely ridiculous. And that is nothing agaisnt any of the boys that have made it I have known most of them for years and they are all great kids.
if i am just being a father and others do not agree with that then please feel free to tell me i am wrong as of course sometimes we parents are not always the ebst judges, though i have always prided myself on being very unbiased.
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16-09-09, 08:14
anyway at the momment I am pissed off for my son i am sure i will settle and feel much better in a few months
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16-09-09, 09:16
Hey Dad, I don't know you or your boys but I do feel for you and your son. Rep is a minefield of personalities and politics and always some kids get hurt and parents hate it. Try to remember that playing the game with a team of competitive but supportive team mates is the ultimate great rep season for your children. Sometimes being in the so called 2nd side can make your boy stand out even more if he plays with good grace. I'm sure BQ realises that sometimes not all the best players make the first team for different reasons and look at all competitors when making their choices-I hope so. A good attitude to the game and to their team mates should be part of the selection process. Not many kids will go on to make a professional team so like you I have learned to put things in perpective. Can you remember who made Qld sides or even Australian sides in the past few years-I certainly can't. Breathe deep, comfort your boy and I wish you the best.
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