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26-06-10, 20:09
Bridget to Logan

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28-06-10, 08:57
Anyone in the know?

How many players are chosen for the blue chip squad? Is the team selected from performance during the rep year and at classics, or from the training camps?

Thanks in advance.

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28-06-10, 09:38
Anyone in the know?

How many players are chosen for the blue chip squad? Is the team selected from performance during the rep year and at classics, or from the training camps?

Thanks in advance.

I think it is 15 that are chosen, how they are chosen who knows. If it is based solely on the sessions then there maybe a few disappointed people at the end of the day. Also if its a development squad there maybe a few taken that are not always in the frame.
Also some kids at one session and the not the next and one notable not there at all due to injury.
But common sense would say that also form from the Classics and the season must be taken into account. There are 2 more sessions set for late July for North and South QLD but given the numbers , I counted 26 girls and about the same number of boys that they are getting would seem sensible to move into the final squads.

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28-06-10, 12:47
Anyone in the know?

How many players are chosen for the blue chip squad? Is the team selected from performance during the rep year and at classics, or from the training camps?

Thanks in advance.
Not up to date on the current system entirely but the original concept behind QAS/NITCP and Development squads was to identify athletes with the POTENTIAL, repeat potential, to be developed into players potentially capable of higher representative status in the future.
(Body type/attitude/academics/coachability, etc). Some time back some players were not included because it was deemed they were already of a high standard and wouldnt benefit further by the 'development' work being done with the selectees. Used to raise peoples blood pressure to see obvious stand out performers not making these squads when they didnt realise that the emphasis was on future development not present capabilities.
Not sure if its still the case but something to bear in mind.

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28-06-10, 17:11
Ha ha ha no chnace!!

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29-06-10, 11:10
Not up to date on the current system entirely but the original concept behind QAS/NITCP and Development squads was to identify athletes with the POTENTIAL, repeat potential, to be developed into players potentially capable of higher representative status in the future.
(Body type/attitude/academics/coachability, etc). Some time back some players were not included because it was deemed they were already of a high standard and wouldnt benefit further by the 'development' work being done with the selectees. Used to raise peoples blood pressure to see obvious stand out performers not making these squads when they didnt realise that the emphasis was on future development not present capabilities.
Not sure if its still the case but something to bear in mind.

Who would be likely candidates as development players or players with potential that maybe developed in this age group ?

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29-06-10, 13:38
Who would be likely candidates as development players or players with potential that maybe developed in this age group ?

Who do you think? It would be interesting to come up with a list of names outside of the so called 'top 6'. I will start with. Whitney - Logan, Larnie - SD, Georgie Mac - Bris

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29-06-10, 20:01
Who do you think? It would be interesting to come up with a list of names outside of the so called 'top 6'. I will start with. Whitney - Logan, Larnie - SD, Georgie Mac - Bris

Could you please let us know who you think the 'top 6' are

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30-06-10, 07:16
Could you please let us know who you think the 'top 6' are

My Top 6 is my opinion only;

Krystle, GC
Mille
Nat
Bridget OB
Regan
Alyshia or Khaiden, too close to call

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30-06-10, 07:18
Who do you think? It would be interesting to come up with a list of names outside of the so called 'top 6'. I will start with. Whitney - Logan, Larnie - SD, Georgie Mac - Bris

I'll continue with
Kelly and Analeise (? )- Logan, Courtney and Brittany - SD

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30-06-10, 15:17
My Top 6 is my opinion only;

Krystle, GC
Mille
Nat
Bridget OB
Regan
Alyshia or Khaiden, too close to call

"Top 6" with positions of their respective teams at the end of Classics :-

4 Krystle
6 Millie
6 Nat
1 Bridget
8 Regan
7 Khaiden

Game is now transitioning to a team sport now and this should be taken into account when selecting teams for the future, a strong individual may struggle to make the adjustment into a team player.

PS who is Alyshia ?

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30-06-10, 18:10
"Top 6" with positions of their respective teams at the end of Classics :-

4 Krystle
6 Millie
6 Nat
1 Bridget
8 Regan
7 Khaiden

Game is now transitioning to a team sport now and this should be taken into account when selecting teams for the future, a strong individual may struggle to make the adjustment into a team player.

PS who is Alyshia ?

Letters are out congratulating players who made the squad

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30-06-10, 23:48
"Top 6" with positions of their respective teams at the end of Classics :-

4 Krystle
6 Millie
6 Nat
1 Bridget
8 Regan
7 Khaiden

Game is now transitioning to a team sport now and this should be taken into account when selecting teams for the future, a strong individual may struggle to make the adjustment into a team player.

PS who is Alyshia ?
Games always been a team sport.(At least at the higher levels) Unless your Michael Jordan, Kobe or Lauren Jackson you will never win a game on your own. (Least at the higher levels)
If you cant bring your skill set and combine it in the team environment your not going to be playing very long (Least not at the higher levels) Long ways to go before these babys can be rated as real players.

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01-07-10, 07:38
Letters are out congratulating players who made the squad

Given that there are 2 more sessions planned for July I would say you are full of crap ....

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01-07-10, 08:17
Given that there are 2 more sessions planned for July I would say you are full of crap ....

That is uncalled for. Letters have definately been sent.

Congrats to those that made the squad.

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01-07-10, 11:00
Given that there are 2 more sessions planned for July I would say you are full of crap ....

Squads have been posted on the BQ site under Blue Chip

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01-07-10, 11:43
Squads have been posted on the BQ site under Blue Chip

That's a big squad, I count 30 odd players for Brisbane South
Does anyone know if the final squad is 10 players?

Good luck to all the players and go for it, hopefully we'll see your name in lights one day

Good luck also to the parents who now have to find more money.

One day, the Govt might contribute to an Active lifestyle program for children to participate in expensive sports like Basketball, it's pretty tough to have four children who really want to play and who all have the ability to be in top teams but we as a family cant stretch to the amount of money that represents.

So for now, we just don't trial or get involved in teams that we cant afford to be in. I wish there was an easy answer but I cant think of one

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01-07-10, 11:57
Squads have been posted on the BQ site under Blue Chip

CRONJE Kayla brisbane
BRANFORD Tamika Ipswich
CRAWFORD Brooke Brisbane
CRAWFORD Emily Brisbane
DEAKIN-SHARPE Sammi SD
DISTELDORF Milly Maroochydore
FLEMING Tessa GC
FRAMPTON Ashleigh bundaberg
GILLARD Kayla bundaberg
HOWARD Taylah caboolture
KENNEDY Bride SD
LINDBOLM Evelina SD titans
McCARRON Georgia brisbane
McCARTY Regan Northside
McGILL Kelsey Ipswich
McKENZIE Krystle GC
MOPIO-JANE Angela Logan
O'BRIEN Bridget Logan
O'BRIEN Gabrielle Northside
PRICE Mikayla
RITSON Brittany SD
SANTINO Adele toowoomba
SAUL Kellianne Logan
SCHEIBNER Larnie SD
SEKONA Louisa SW Metro
ST CLAIR Natalie Maroochydore
TAITO Khaiden Ipswich
TAPSON Gemma SD Titans
TIMPERLEY Taylah Ipswich
WEHI Whitnee Logan

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01-07-10, 13:34
CRONJE Kayla brisbane
BRANFORD Tamika Ipswich
CRAWFORD Brooke Brisbane
CRAWFORD Emily Brisbane
DEAKIN-SHARPE Sammi SD
DISTELDORF Milly Maroochydore
FLEMING Tessa GC
FRAMPTON Ashleigh bundaberg
GILLARD Kayla bundaberg
HOWARD Taylah caboolture
KENNEDY Bride SD
LINDBOLM Evelina SD titans
McCARRON Georgia brisbane
McCARTY Regan Northside
McGILL Kelsey Ipswich
McKENZIE Krystle GC
MOPIO-JANE Angela Logan
O'BRIEN Bridget Logan
O'BRIEN Gabrielle Northside
PRICE Mikayla
RITSON Brittany SD
SANTINO Adele toowoomba
SAUL Kellianne Logan
SCHEIBNER Larnie SD
SEKONA Louisa SW Metro
ST CLAIR Natalie Maroochydore
TAITO Khaiden Ipswich
TAPSON Gemma SD Titans
TIMPERLEY Taylah Ipswich
WEHI Whitnee Logan

Where are Analise and Courtney. These 2 players should be considered for the top 10.

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01-07-10, 14:10
Where are Analise and Courtney. These 2 players should be considered for the top 10.

Courtney got left off on the cut and paste. She was the last name on the list and got left off. She is on there now. I am not sure what happened to Annie.

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02-07-10, 06:03
Where are Analise and Courtney. These 2 players should be considered for the top 10.

Are these players bottom age 16s for rep this year which ones will still be in U14s this coming rep season

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02-07-10, 06:59
Are these players bottom age 16s for rep this year which ones will still be in U14s this coming rep season

they are all bottom aged 16's for next year , there are no bottom aged kids ie all born 1997.

Totaly Wild
08-07-10, 16:11
Keep a watch out on channel 10. Totally Wild will be doing a feature story about the Under 14 junior Lady Spartans girls going to the nationals.

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14-07-10, 13:25
Krystal to RB.

from RB Website ------
"Shane Heal has been confirmed as the Seahawks GC Head Coach for our under 16 and under 18 girls division 1 teams"

All makes sense now ......

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14-07-10, 14:39
from RB Website ------
"Shane Heal has been confirmed as the Seahawks GC Head Coach for our under 16 and under 18 girls division 1 teams"

All makes sense now ......

Lucky girls. Hear Shane is fantastic. GC will retain their players with this development plan.

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14-07-10, 15:54
Just an update on Krystle, her ankle is fractured - is in a boot cast for 6 weeks & out of action for 3 months. The rest of the Gold Coast team did a fantastic job & fought so hard without her on the court, they did prove that it's not a one man team. Krystle told her girls to believe in themselves & they did, she was so proud of them!!!

Not much loyalty to "her girls".

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15-07-10, 16:10
Not much loyalty to "her girls".

If changing Associations to benifit a player is what people want to do so be it. There are plenty of players who change associations for many different reasons. I know that Krystle & her family's decision was discussed with friends & coaches within the GC association & it is an opportunity to help her future in basketball. They have my support & I know her friends have also given their support too so stating that she is not being "loyal to her girls" is down right rude, especially when most of team from last season would not have been in her team this season. If Krystle & Milly are changing associations, they are obviously thinking of their future. Good luck girls.

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15-07-10, 20:14
If changing Associations to benifit a player is what people want to do so be it. There are plenty of players who change associations for many different reasons. I know that Krystle & her family's decision was discussed with friends & coaches within the GC association & it is an opportunity to help her future in basketball. They have my support & I know her friends have also given their support too so stating that she is not being "loyal to her girls" is down right rude, especially when most of team from last season would not have been in her team this season. If Krystle & Milly are changing associations, they are obviously thinking of their future. Good luck girls.

Really, who cares. These are children. Their future may not be paved now. Let them be kids and play where they want.

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15-07-10, 23:19
Really, who cares. These are children. Their future may not be paved now. Let them be kids and play where they want.
Exactly. And at this age todays 'superstar' can easily become tomorrows 'also ran' or leader of the cheer squad.

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16-07-10, 10:37
Really, who cares. These are children. Their future may not be paved now. Let them be kids and play where they want.

Unfortunately parents ambitions get in the way of childrens fun.

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16-07-10, 12:09
Unfortunately parents ambitions get in the way of childrens fun.

The kids wouldn't play if it wasn't fun so the parents ambitions wouldn't keep them playing unless the kids wanted to. Who is to judge anyway, others don't know the circumstances why people move associations. I do find it amusing though how all the loyalty nonsense gets tossed around and yet the new associations always take new players with open arms particularly if they are good. If a player or parent is not happy with the assocation or the coach or other factors i.e. the politics then go somewhere else. Families invest a lot of time into basketball once their kids play rep, so why not go where you think you would be the best fit. By the way I don't even know this age group of girls but from previous experience I would say go elsewhere if you are not happy. It keeps the associations and coaches accountable and we have never been happier for the shift. Some coaches will be good for your child, others will not be. Dynamics of players can also be a factor. The kids are playing for a long time and they will most likely be playing with the same kids for years and may also have the same coach that might not work for them. Unfortunately if players are not happy with a coach then it won't be the coach that changes and the association will always back them up so go elsewhere if it's not working for you.

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16-07-10, 17:05
The kids wouldn't play if it wasn't fun so the parents ambitions wouldn't keep them playing unless the kids wanted to. Who is to judge anyway, others don't know the circumstances why people move associations. I do find it amusing though how all the loyalty nonsense gets tossed around and yet the new associations always take new players with open arms particularly if they are good. If a player or parent is not happy with the assocation or the coach or other factors i.e. the politics then go somewhere else. Families invest a lot of time into basketball once their kids play rep, so why not go where you think you would be the best fit. By the way I don't even know this age group of girls but from previous experience I would say go elsewhere if you are not happy. It keeps the associations and coaches accountable and we have never been happier for the shift. Some coaches will be good for your child, others will not be. Dynamics of players can also be a factor. The kids are playing for a long time and they will most likely be playing with the same kids for years and may also have the same coach that might not work for them. Unfortunately if players are not happy with a coach then it won't be the coach that changes and the association will always back them up so go elsewhere if it's not working for you.
...and then "if it doesnt work for you" with the next coach?...and the next?...
That makes the assumption that the kid knows more than the coach...which at this age is simply not reality...also sends the message to the kid that basketball is all about them and what works for them with no component of cooperative play, commonality of purpose working as part of a team and adjusting to the requirements of "management". All fairly relevant life skills that junior sport is supposed to engender.Triathletes, tennis players, golfers and other individual sports people change coaches like their underpants till they find one which "works for them."..(or in a lot of cases, as in some basketball instances too, 'tells them what they want to hear'). Team sports like basketball rely on kids learning to adapt to and accept the role that "management" assigns them within the team structure and if they want "promotion" they work/study harder to attain whats necessary for that elevation and promotion. ...or they can simply change coaches, teams, friends and associations to where they think they'll get a "better" go, without doing the work.
For sure but, studying at the University of Heal is an opportunity to be jumped at for any young basketballer. Need to be aware but that with the privledge comes the responsibility ...to work hard and accept the decisions of management. Bit like life really...

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16-07-10, 22:09
...and then "if it doesnt work for you" with the next coach?...and the next?...
That makes the assumption that the kid knows more than the coach...which at this age is simply not reality...also sends the message to the kid that basketball is all about them and what works for them with no component of cooperative play, commonality of purpose working as part of a team and adjusting to the requirements of "management". All fairly relevant life skills that junior sport is supposed to engender.Triathletes, tennis players, golfers and other individual sports people change coaches like their underpants till they find one which "works for them."..(or in a lot of cases, as in some basketball instances too, 'tells them what they want to hear'). Team sports like basketball rely on kids learning to adapt to and accept the role that "management" assigns them within the team structure and if they want "promotion" they work/study harder to attain whats necessary for that elevation and promotion. ...or they can simply change coaches, teams, friends and associations to where they think they'll get a "better" go, without doing the work.
For sure but, studying at the University of Heal is an opportunity to be jumped at for any young basketballer. Need to be aware but that with the privledge comes the responsibility ...to work hard and accept the decisions of management. Bit like life really...

magnificent

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16-07-10, 23:05
...and then "if it doesnt work for you" with the next coach?...and the next?...
That makes the assumption that the kid knows more than the coach...which at this age is simply not reality...also sends the message to the kid that basketball is all about them and what works for them with no component of cooperative play, commonality of purpose working as part of a team and adjusting to the requirements of "management". All fairly relevant life skills that junior sport is supposed to engender.Triathletes, tennis players, golfers and other individual sports people change coaches like their underpants till they find one which "works for them."..(or in a lot of cases, as in some basketball instances too, 'tells them what they want to hear'). Team sports like basketball rely on kids learning to adapt to and accept the role that "management" assigns them within the team structure and if they want "promotion" they work/study harder to attain whats necessary for that elevation and promotion. ...or they can simply change coaches, teams, friends and associations to where they think they'll get a "better" go, without doing the work.
For sure but, studying at the University of Heal is an opportunity to be jumped at for any young basketballer. Need to be aware but that with the privledge comes the responsibility ...to work hard and accept the decisions of management. Bit like life really...

It all sounds good what you are saying if life really was like that. You are making an assumption that all coaches are good, they are not. I have seen great kids just downright miserable because of their bad rep experience and quit the sport. Associations depend on volunteers and for anyone who helps out that is very commendable. However if a player shifts associations it would be fair to say that they would have to work doubly hard to be accepted into a new association and they would have to work very hard to earn their spot ahead of locals. No-one wants to shift outside of their area and it is not as easy as just turning up somewhere else and thinking they'll get a better go without doing the work. In all associations there are the favoured people who get a better than fair go without doing any work just because of their connections, friendships, family involvement at the association etc. Believe you me, having 3 kids go through the rep program and dealing with many different coaches and unbelievable team selections I think I have seen a fair bit. I shifted one of my boys to another association and he has never looked back and thrived with his new team. My other 2 kids stayed where they are and have been happy. And for the record I have given my time and successfully coached club, rep and managed teams. The pressure to select kids of committee members and families who have been with the association for a long time makes coaching difficult.

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17-07-10, 06:26
It all sounds good what you are saying if life really was like that. You are making an assumption that all coaches are good, they are not. I have seen great kids just downright miserable because of their bad rep experience and quit the sport. Associations depend on volunteers and for anyone who helps out that is very commendable. However if a player shifts associations it would be fair to say that they would have to work doubly hard to be accepted into a new association and they would have to work very hard to earn their spot ahead of locals. No-one wants to shift outside of their area and it is not as easy as just turning up somewhere else and thinking they'll get a better go without doing the work. In all associations there are the favoured people who get a better than fair go without doing any work just because of their connections, friendships, family involvement at the association etc. Believe you me, having 3 kids go through the rep program and dealing with many different coaches and unbelievable team selections I think I have seen a fair bit. I shifted one of my boys to another association and he has never looked back and thrived with his new team. My other 2 kids stayed where they are and have been happy. And for the record I have given my time and successfully coached club, rep and managed teams. The pressure to select kids of committee members and families who have been with the association for a long time makes coaching difficult.

You make alot of sense. This happens in all sports.

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17-07-10, 09:24
It all sounds good what you are saying if life really was like that. You are making an assumption that all coaches are good, they are not. I have seen great kids just downright miserable because of their bad rep experience and quit the sport. Associations depend on volunteers and for anyone who helps out that is very commendable. However if a player shifts associations it would be fair to say that they would have to work doubly hard to be accepted into a new association and they would have to work very hard to earn their spot ahead of locals. No-one wants to shift outside of their area and it is not as easy as just turning up somewhere else and thinking they'll get a better go without doing the work. In all associations there are the favoured people who get a better than fair go without doing any work just because of their connections, friendships, family involvement at the association etc. Believe you me, having 3 kids go through the rep program and dealing with many different coaches and unbelievable team selections I think I have seen a fair bit. I shifted one of my boys to another association and he has never looked back and thrived with his new team. My other 2 kids stayed where they are and have been happy. And for the record I have given my time and successfully coached club, rep and managed teams. The pressure to select kids of committee members and families who have been with the association for a long time makes coaching difficult.

If the kid has to work "doubly hard" to be accepted at the new association why wouldn't they have done that originally. Parents refuse to see that often the problem is with the kid, not the association. The coaches change from year to year. What happens when you are not happy with a coach at the new association, move again? Most just suck it up and work through it, like what they should have done in the first place. It's fair to say that most kids coming into an association get preferential treatment over the tried and true locals. Sport is more than just playing the game and one of the lessons is learning how to cope with adversity. Sometimes moving is the best option, most times it is just ego driven parents seeking the pot of gold at the end of the rainbow.

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18-07-10, 18:00
if you have the talent you will make it. Association or super coaches does not create talent!

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18-07-10, 20:18
if you have the talent you will make it. Association or super coaches does not create talent!

thankyou obi one Konobi or master yoda

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19-07-10, 09:17
Coaches further develop talent BUT Parents do all the hard work...experienced parents anyway.

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20-07-10, 08:38
If the kid has to work "doubly hard" to be accepted at the new association why wouldn't they have done that originally. Parents refuse to see that often the problem is with the kid, not the association. The coaches change from year to year. What happens when you are not happy with a coach at the new association, move again? Most just suck it up and work through it, like what they should have done in the first place. It's fair to say that most kids coming into an association get preferential treatment over the tried and true locals. Sport is more than just playing the game and one of the lessons is learning how to cope with adversity. Sometimes moving is the best option, most times it is just ego driven parents seeking the pot of gold at the end of the rainbow.

What about this scenario - a team has struggled with a poor coach (skills/ knowledge/communication) for the whole season. For whatever reason that same coach is put into a new position the following season which has players from the previous season.....Now if one or a couple of kids have some talent, do the players stay? Do the parents approach the association to ask the coach be removed ?( highly unlikely as the association has already made its decision). Some would argue that if the kid/kids are talented, they will rise to the top anyway, however in formative years of basketball, 2 seasons is a long time and opportunities to be spotted and mentored can be missed. Then you have the parent with the "grass is greener" attitude, either way, each situation is different and can't be judged the same.

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20-07-10, 14:16
if you have the talent you will make it. Association or super coaches does not create talent!

That may be true but it's also true that good coaches and supportive family can nurture talent while poor coaching and/or badly behaved parents can destroy talent or make a child not want to play

After reading a few posts on this forum, it seems pretty obvious that a number of parents have an intense interest, I wonder if these same parents are the yelling, screaming loud spectators who then berate their child for less than, in the parent's eyes, a perfect game on the way home.

I've been to some associations where a parents code of conduct is as important as the child's coach, as it should be because parents have a huge influence, good and bad. Some associations do this a whole lot better than others and that's probably a factor in a child/parents decision

If a child and parent choose to play the game at all, no matter where or for whom, that's great for the game. If that child moves associations for whatever reason, that's a choice not made lightly and is no-one elses business really. If a child chooses to move associations for whatever reason, they play the game, the parents don't so parents should be supportive and encouraging but slanging off at someone over their decision to move is pointless

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20-07-10, 14:47
That may be true but it's also true that good coaches and supportive family can nurture talent while poor coaching and/or badly behaved parents can destroy talent or make a child not want to play

After reading a few posts on this forum, it seems pretty obvious that a number of parents have an intense interest, I wonder if these same parents are the yelling, screaming loud spectators who then berate their child for less than, in the parent's eyes, a perfect game on the way home.

I've been to some associations where a parents code of conduct is as important as the child's coach, as it should be because parents have a huge influence, good and bad. Some associations do this a whole lot better than others and that's probably a factor in a child/parents decision

If a child and parent choose to play the game at all, no matter where or for whom, that's great for the game. If that child moves associations for whatever reason, that's a choice not made lightly and is no-one elses business really. If a child chooses to move associations for whatever reason, they play the game, the parents don't so parents should be supportive and encouraging but slanging off at someone over their decision to move is pointless
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I think that the tone of this discussion has been of a unusually high standard for this forum. Of course there is no right answer and only time will tell whether people have made the 'right decision'.

It is no ones else's business how or why the decision is made but it does affect a whole lot of people when the high quality players start moving around for whatever the reason. What has to happen is that the competition should remain balanced and no one team or association can be allowed to load up and destroy the competitiveness of the rest of the teams. Best way for these kids to get improve is by having a level comp and playing against (not with) their peers as they progress through the age groups.

Perhaps one or maybe two these kids maybe lucky enough to make it all the way through the system and play the game at a professional level,(WNBL) as for the rest some will be very good (QBL/SEABL) some will make up the numbers and in 10 years time the vast majority probably will probably be happy enough playing club basketball with their mates.

Enjoy it while it lasts for what it is.

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21-07-10, 13:38
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I think that the tone of this discussion has been of a unusually high standard for this forum. Of course there is no right answer and only time will tell whether people have made the 'right decision'.

It is no ones else's business how or why the decision is made but it does affect a whole lot of people when the high quality players start moving around for whatever the reason. What has to happen is that the competition should remain balanced and no one team or association can be allowed to load up and destroy the competitiveness of the rest of the teams. Best way for these kids to get improve is by having a level comp and playing against (not with) their peers as they progress through the age groups.

Perhaps one or maybe two these kids maybe lucky enough to make it all the way through the system and play the game at a professional level,(WNBL) as for the rest some will be very good (QBL/SEABL) some will make up the numbers and in 10 years time the vast majority probably will probably be happy enough playing club basketball with their mates.

Enjoy it while it lasts for what it is.
Agree on all counts especially the point made about some associations loading up and unbalancing the competition. I've been of the opinion for some time now that there has been a hidden agenda by 1 or 2 clubs to heavily weight their playing numbers in juniors and politically push their coaches into State positions so that for a first time parent approaching the sport the perception is created that "to make state, you need to play at this association".
(Indeed 'to play premier league you need to play at this association' was the original idea I think.)
Its unfortunate at the moment that those with the power to make those decisions are somewhat 'aligned' with the associations concerned and still able to influence this to an extent. Naturally the really brilliant kid will usually make the teams regardless of whatever association they play for, (albeit the "recruiting" sometimes starts in earnest once its obvious the kid is going somewhere.) But its still a handy tool to have newcomers think that State coaches are the best coaches, which isnt always true. Have seen countless times where a kid has switched associations, not necessarily to improve their basketball skills and knowledge, but rather to be at the association of the state coach for their age group. Have unfortunately seen cases where kids have made state over another who was better but didnt play at the coaches association. In these times of paid coaching directors and coaches at junior level one should remember that these people have KPIs to fulfill as paid employees and naturally 'numbers of athletes in state squads and teams' is a handy statistic when negotiating next years remuneration.
Its the way of the future here as we slowly catch up to the US system but right now player recruitment seems to be done to satisfy the egos and pay scales of a few individuals. Nobody can begrudge a kid transferring if the association is able to provide a private school or university scholarship that the parents dont have to pay for. Reality is very very few will set themselves up for life by playing basketball professionally. If the child gets set up in life by virtue of an education that they would otherwise not have had access to, then their basketball talent has served them well.

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22-07-10, 10:55
On another note, it all depends who has been working hard this current off season. I heard Kaiden Tiato is playing D-League. Wow a 12 year old playing D-league. Thats great for her game. Rumour has it that Ipswich have their imports working individually with their juniors. Thats great. So, it all depends, some could be much better than others due to their individual efforts, this coming season.

Another rumour is that Millie (ex Maroochy) has been training hard this off season, also participating in individual training sessions.

Soon it will be a matter of WHO WANTS IT THE MOST...

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22-07-10, 12:11
On another note, it all depends who has been working hard this current off season. I heard Kaiden Tiato is playing D-League. Wow a 12 year old playing D-league. Thats great for her game. Rumour has it that Ipswich have their imports working individually with their juniors. Thats great. So, it all depends, some could be much better than others due to their individual efforts, this coming season.

Another rumour is that Millie (ex Maroochy) has been training hard this off season, also participating in individual training sessions.

Soon it will be a matter of WHO WANTS IT THE MOST...

There is a big step up from 14's to 16's. Some girls will have the physical maturity to mix it with the much bigger top age girls, some will have to wait until there bodies 'fill out' and some will be left behind.

Top age 16's is the first real indication of where players stand in the competition. The big kids from previous years are 'caught up' by others. If they stop growing they need to develop other skills or risk being left behind. A good work ethic is needed to succeed in any sport (and life), just turning it on every now and then over pre season isn't going to cut it in the long term. Girls that enjoy the had work and thrive on intense training sessions are the ones that will improve the most.

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22-07-10, 14:32
On another note, it all depends who has been working hard this current off season. I heard Kaiden Tiato is playing D-League. Wow a 12 year old playing D-league. Thats great for her game. Rumour has it that Ipswich have their imports working individually with their juniors. Thats great. So, it all depends, some could be much better than others due to their individual efforts, this coming season.

Another rumour is that Millie (ex Maroochy) has been training hard this off season, also participating in individual training sessions.

Soon it will be a matter of WHO WANTS IT THE MOST...
Saw Natalie St Claire running the point for Maroochydore against a Montana-Nebraska high schools touring squad of 16-17 yr olds and did the job with flair and good decision making, especially in the final minut to come away with the 3 pt win. Shes been doing individuals along with a dozen or so others in the Mdore academy program the last 9 weeks. Still slightly built but has a great upside due her court sense and understanding of the game.

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23-07-10, 12:36
Lucky girls. Hear Shane is fantastic. GC will retain their players with this development plan.

All good for next year when Heal is coaching his daughter and they will have a strong team but what will happen the following year when the top agers are gone and judging by what they (runaway bay) had this year they would be lucky to make Premier League.

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23-07-10, 13:13
All good for next year when Heal is coaching his daughter and they will have a strong team but what will happen the following year when the top agers are gone and judging by what they (runaway bay) had this year they would be lucky to make Premier League.

They will recruit

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23-07-10, 13:25
They will recruit

Poach players developed at another association, classy stuff.

And if that doesn't work keep moving associations, until you find one where the grass is lush and green and coaches turn players from good to great with a wave of there magical wand.

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23-07-10, 22:54
There is nothing wrong with moving associations or trying to find the best opportunity for our kids...even the best of the best do it, look at Israel Folau, he can even change codes...nothing wrong with recruiting either, I wont say who my daughter is, but even I would consider sending her to have a year with Shane Heal...It's just a pity its on the other side of the world for us...

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26-07-10, 16:15
There is nothing wrong with moving associations or trying to find the best opportunity for our kids...even the best of the best do it, look at Israel Folau, he can even change codes...nothing wrong with recruiting either, I wont say who my daughter is, but even I would consider sending her to have a year with Shane Heal...It's just a pity its on the other side of the world for us...

I agree with the first sentence ...but have an issue with those same kids coming back to an association the following year...when the team is strong again !! if you cant stick with your association during the tough season-dont come back...

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27-07-10, 09:00
I agree with the first sentence ...but have an issue with those same kids coming back to an association the following year...when the team is strong again !! if you cant stick with your association during the tough season-dont come back...

I would think that it would be rare that a junior player regardless of who they are once they have walked out would be welcomed back especially the next year.
I know where we are at the door would be considered closed pretty much for all time not only by the association but the kids and parents as well. If you are part of the
program, embrace it and there will be opportuties made available to you but if you choose to walk away thats that .
Again this is one of the things that need to be weighed up when making this type of decision.

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27-07-10, 10:07
This all would make sense if Associations were loyal to THEIR players and did the hard yards in development. They welcome, even encourage, players from other associations, often at the expense of players who have been loyal to them because they want the "better" player. The "better" player often fails to play well as a team player and unbalances the team but it still happens all the time. Loyalty only counts if it is shown by ALL parties and its definitely not. Don't be so quick to judge-hypocrits!! Personally I think its great for kids to move around all the time-play lots of different sports, play with lots of different kids and coaches and keep interested rather than stay "loyal" to one sport and one club and be dumped because another supposedly better, taller, faster player joins and they leave sport cynical and dispirited. Oh and just in case you think this has happened to my children-forget it-it hasn't-but I've seen plenty of their mates suffer this fate and I don't believe in judging other people for making choices to keep their kids interested in sport and out of trouble.

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27-07-10, 10:38
from RB Website ------
"Shane Heal has been confirmed as the Seahawks GC Head Coach for our under 16 and under 18 girls division 1 teams"

All makes sense now ......

All the best to Krystal we will miss you dearly and to her family also, the best manager ever thank you for taking care of our daughter. Krystal will go far in her sport and she deserves a better coach then she has had over the past two years. Trainings were a joke no discipline at all.

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27-07-10, 11:08
Don't be so quick to judge krystal or her parents for moving associations. Here a a few others in her age group who have already made the switch. Courtney Woods from North Side to Sth Districts. Kaiden Taito from Sth West Metro to Ipswich. Larnie Scheibner from Brisbane to Sth Districts. Milly Disteldorf from Mackay to Maroochydore to ???. There are probably A few other kids i have forgotton, or just know about!

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27-07-10, 17:05
All the best to Krystal we will miss you dearly and to her family also, the best manager ever thank you for taking care of our daughter. Krystal will go far in her sport and she deserves a better coach then she has had over the past two years. Trainings were a joke no discipline at all.

Krystal's mum? Nice parting shot.

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28-07-10, 16:30
All the best to Krystal we will miss you dearly and to her family also, the best manager ever thank you for taking care of our daughter. Krystal will go far in her sport and she deserves a better coach then she has had over the past two years. Trainings were a joke no discipline at all.

This is a gem. Guess who was "asked" to move to RBay as an AC and fill in for Hammer when he is away? You got it, Rob Sleaford the very same coach she has had over the past two years. Obviously Shane thinks Sleaford is a pretty good coach, he would not have asked him to come over if he did not rate the guy.

Not sure what the poster above will say now that Krystal and Rob will be re united for a 3rd year. It certaily makes the above post look like a bunch of rubbbish!!

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29-07-10, 11:48
This is a gem. Guess who was "asked" to move to RBay as an AC and fill in for Hammer when he is away? You got it, Rob Sleaford the very same coach she has had over the past two years. Obviously Shane thinks Sleaford is a pretty good coach, he would not have asked him to come over if he did not rate the guy.

Not sure what the poster above will say now that Krystal and Rob will be re united for a 3rd year. It certaily makes the above post look like a bunch of rubbbish!!

Are there no coaches at Runaway Bay who could be developed???

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29-07-10, 12:38
On another note, it all depends who has been working hard this current off season. I heard Kaiden Tiato is playing D-League. Wow a 12 year old playing D-league. Thats great for her game. Rumour has it that Ipswich have their imports working individually with their juniors. Thats great. So, it all depends, some could be much better than others due to their individual efforts, this coming season.

Another rumour is that Millie (ex Maroochy) has been training hard this off season, also participating in individual training sessions.

Soon it will be a matter of WHO WANTS IT THE MOST...

mate you are a bit obsessed with everyone else, are you, too many rumors, sure you are not starting them just here.
kids are training, so what, of course they are
tip relax

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29-07-10, 19:08
who deserves to be in the blu chip team?

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31-07-10, 10:11
who deserves to be in the blu chip team?

Going by previous posts, Krystal?