U18 Girls Premier League 09/10

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New Thread for a New Season

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Just interested to know other associations plans on entering Womens Southern Cup in U18's?

Cheers
Oli

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Just wondering if anyone has any information on any squads/ teams yet?
whos looking strong, who isnt?

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Logan have announced 14 players. 12 to suit up every game........

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Spartans trials continue tonight if anyone is interested/or looking for a team - 5 to 6.45

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Logan have announced 14 players. 12 to suit up every game........

name the team?
name the coach?

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Most rep teams are posted on the association websites.

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Logan have announced 14 players. 12 to suit up every game........

that is a cop out...12 players enough for u18 girls, this tough on girls dropped each wk

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that is a cop out...12 players enough for u18 girls, this tough on girls dropped each wk

Maybe natural attrition will take care of that.

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Is there going to be any competition on premier league to brisbane?

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wot the

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Spartans have put together a very good program in Under 18 girls under the tutelage of Rebecca Stevens (Coach) and Tony Steven (Asst Coach). Bec is involving the Lady Spartans SEABL players and putting in place a great opprtunity for the development of our young women. There are still few places available........ call 33982790 during office hours if interested.

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As state trials are advertised to commence in 3 weeks are there any details available ie who is coach and where are the trials being held??

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spartans will be lucky to make div 1 has they aint that good

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who missed out in making div 1.

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Spartans did make it!!! Improved with every game

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Which teams made div 1?????

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who have spartans got?
who's their best player? cos i heard sian and steph were tearing up at grading..

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who have spartans got?
who's their best player? cos i heard sian and steph were tearing up at grading..

HAHA! NICE JOKE

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HAHA! NICE JOKE

obviously tearing you up

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obviously tearing you up

i agree i think they did well for their team when we played them.

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i agree i think they did well for their team when we played them.

It won't be good enough when they verse harder times like Brisbane

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Talking about spartans, how do you think they will hold up against maroochydore in the first round. I hear maroochydore are stronger this year.

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Talking about spartans, how do you think they will hold up against maroochydore in the first round. I hear maroochydore are stronger this year.

i think that they will do well considering.
i think that they have a chance of a win, either way will be a close game. what does everybody else think?

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what are the picks for the state teams and reserves?

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i think that they will do well considering.
i think that they have a chance of a win, either way will be a close game. what does everybody else think?

Who does spartans have? Does maroochydore have anyone good?

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what are the picks for the state teams and reserves?


Yeah that state teams should be interesting.
They don't look that strong this year though.

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I disagree! there is real potential for Qld South to make top 3this year. Depth and Experience should count for alot given fit an healthy team members and true grit and fight for a place in the team should see a winning outfit.

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I disagree! there is real potential for Qld South to make top 3this year. Depth and Experience should count for alot given fit an healthy team members and true grit and fight for a place in the team should see a winning outfit.

i agrree.
still who are the picks for the team. names, association

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Who does spartans have? Does maroochydore have anyone good?

maroochydore has a lot of bottom age players. but judging by what i saw at state trials they weren't too strong. had a lot of speed. runner. spartans also have bottom agers. but some of spartans bottom agers very good. they have a good big;kassie, guard;sian, middle;steph, a few others. they don't have many guards though

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maroochydore has a lot of bottom age players. but judging by what i saw at state trials they weren't too strong. had a lot of speed. runner. spartans also have bottom agers. but some of spartans bottom agers very good. they have a good big;kassie, guard;sian, middle;steph, a few others. they don't have many guards though


Who's the Runner??
I thought Maroochydore was all top age cause the girls are the same from classics.

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anyone game to predict a state team?

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anyone game to predict a state team?

Like this is more important than the rest of the season....give it a break..let the kids play for their clubs...let the state team coaches choose the state team...and get on with it.....the State team is not the be all and end all.....I could name thousands of "state" players who never went on to make it....

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Who's the Runner??
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The person in 'Underbelly' who cant be named for legal reasons after they turned police informant.

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how did the teams go on the weekend?
how did everyone play?
especially spartans and northside
will be interesting to see how they shape up against each other

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Just wanted to commend Brisbane head coach Paul O'Brien. Watched his girls against Seahawks and despite the lopsided foul count, Paul did not once have anything negative to say to the referees, and encouraged his girls to focus on the things they COULD control. If all coaches followed Paul's example, the competition would be much more enjoyable to watch, rather than it being brought down by unprofessional displays towards officials.

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how did the teams go on the weekend?
how did everyone play?
especially spartans and northside
will be interesting to see how they shape up against each other


Spartans up by 20 against Gold Coast

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Just wanted to commend Brisbane head coach Paul O'Brien. Watched his girls against Seahawks and despite the lopsided foul count, Paul did not once have anything negative to say to the referees, and encouraged his girls to focus on the things they COULD control. If all coaches followed Paul's example, the competition would be much more enjoyable to watch, rather than it being brought down by unprofessional displays towards officials.

It always fascinates me that people on the wrong side of a foul count cling to this notion that every team in the world fouls in exactly equal proportions.

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Like this is more important than the rest of the season....give it a break..let the kids play for their clubs...let the state team coaches choose the state team...and get on with it.....the State team is not the be all and end all.....I could name thousands of "state" players who never went on to make it....

How bout

1. Sarah & Mikhaela
2. Maddie W & Ruby
3. Peyton & Ash T
4. Oli & Kristina
5. Gretel & Maddie

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How bout

1. Sarah & Mikhaela
2. Maddie W & Ruby
3. Peyton & Ash T
4. Oli & Kristina
5. Gretel & Maddie

obviously another logan fan.

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Spartans up by 20 against Gold Coast

well done spartans!
it was a great game to watch.
bairstow with 34 and peyton with 30. it was a bit of a battle

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how are all the teams goiung to go this weekend?

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Maddie Allen
Stephanie Bairstow
Donna Katley
Sarah Davis
Mikhaela Donnelly
Kassandra Donnelly
Oli Hurst
Ruby Mason
Emily L Perry
Christina Sekona
Lorna Shepherd
Olivia Thomas
Gretel Tippett
Molly Windsor
Madelyn Willey
Ashleigh Zandi


any suprises on who made it and who didn't?

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Maddie Allen
Stephanie Bairstow
Donna Katley
Sarah Davis
Mikhaela Donnelly
Kassandra Donnelly
Oli Hurst
Ruby Mason
Emily L Perry
Christina Sekona
Lorna Shepherd
Olivia Thomas
Gretel Tippett
Molly Windsor
Madelyn Willey
Ashleigh Zandi


any suprises on who made it and who didn't?

peyton?
ashley taia?

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peyton?
ashley taia?

agree

also Anna Motum and Kartya Creet Brisbane??

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What happened to Peyton? She is an amazing player and has been playing well in the games she has played.

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agree

also Anna Motum and Kartya Creet Brisbane??

Kartya Creet ...... not an offensive threat, too short, not strong enough, doesn't control the game, makes poor choices, needs to get more mature and none of the selectors thought she deserved to be in the squad... pretty easy really.... in their opinion she is not good enough

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What happened to Peyton? She is an amazing player and has been playing well in the games she has played.

Are you serious, Peyton been cut? She is one of the best players in the comp.

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Kartya Creet ...... not an offensive threat, too short, not strong enough, doesn't control the game, makes poor choices, needs to get more mature and none of the selectors thought she deserved to be in the squad... pretty easy really.... in their opinion she is not good enough

Kartya is a great girl and a great sport who above all enjoys her game... she always gives her best...... over the years my daughter has played against and with kartya and she has great strenghth of character and determination on court.... we need to be careful.... only 10 girls can represent us at nationals but there are dozens thankfully like Kartya who enjoy the game and push the girls vying for state selection!!! Go Kartya... you are a great ambassador for the game....!!!!!
PS Can we stop using this message board in a negative manner!!!! respect the state selectors and the young ladies who are enjoying their basketball!!!

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Are you serious, Peyton been cut? She is one of the best players in the comp.

the problem was that she didnt do anything at trials.

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nationals is 4months away. she just recovered from a 2 month ankl strain. We need her in the team, the connection she has with some key players is vital. i think the coaches have made the wrong decision. I especially know one player is very upset who's close to her. Suppose they can just prove it to them in the under 18 classics.

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nationals is 4months away. she just recovered from a 2 month ankl strain. We need her in the team, the connection she has with some key players is vital. i think the coaches have made the wrong decision. I especially know one player is very upset who's close to her. Suppose they can just prove it to them in the under 18 classics.


The players know the pecking order, Peyton would have made the team last year had she trialled. She can show them at Classics but she still won't get selected, they want you or they don't. Players previously have been in the squad, hardly trialled and still get selected in the end. I hope you do show them Peyton.

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Who will do you think will make the Queensland team this season?

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Who will do you think will make the Queensland team this season?

1. mikeala d. & sarah d.
2.maddie w. & ash Z.
3.gretel t. & ruby m.
4.ollie & christina s.
5 maddie & emily p.

maybe swap christina and emily some times?

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Just looking at u18 stats gretel tippett scored 45 pts against southwest what happened there did she play awesome or southwest weak defence.

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Just looking at u18 stats gretel tippett scored 45 pts against southwest what happened there did she play awesome or southwest weak defence.

bit of both. but if you look at high scores of each player next one up is stephanie bairstow with 34...

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Just looking at u18 stats gretel tippett scored 45 pts against southwest what happened there did she play awesome or southwest weak defence.
she had 39 in the second half.

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wow the south west vs maroochydore game was interesting.. Maroochydore easily beat southwest by 20+ points. Even though southwest has a number of state players compared to M'dore with none. This seems a little unfair considering that M'dore are now second on the ladder.

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wow the south west vs maroochydore game was interesting.. Maroochydore easily beat southwest by 20+ points. Even though southwest has a number of state players compared to M'dore with none. This seems a little unfair considering that M'dore are now second on the ladder.

Not only are Maroochydore second, they have two of the top three scorers in the league. I see that neither of them even made the top 20 when it came to state selections - bizzarre! These two were dominant against SW last nght, as they have been all season. Emily Perry (Maroochydore version) must be close to the best athlete in the league.

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Why doesnt someone from maroochy assoc apply for state coach one of the paige sisters. Maybe its time for a new era of coaches

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A good clean out of coaching staff and BQ management would do womders for the sport that is currently stagnant in the Brisbane area.

About tim ecoaches started selecting teams on what they see at games and trials and not reputations.

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Why doesnt someone from maroochy assoc apply for state coach one of the paige sisters. Maybe its time for a new era of coaches

Don't think so, they had their chance with a State team a few years back, worst selections ever and worst performance ever by a Qld team. The team had a miserable experience.

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whats the current state coaches best result 4th/5th

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just because brisbane coaches are coaching the state team doesnt mean a bunch of girls from the brisbane area have to get in.
but oh well i guess coaches always have their favourites. i just feel it for the girls that work hard and deserve to be in the team but arent because of plain crap.

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whats the current state coaches best result 4th/5th

Pam Hamilton Smith has one all three medals as a Qld Head Coach. Thats Gold, Silver and Bronze. NEXT QUESTION??

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Not only are Maroochydore second, they have two of the top three scorers in the league. I see that neither of them even made the top 20 when it came to state selections - bizzarre! These two were dominant against SW last nght, as they have been all season. Emily Perry (Maroochydore version) must be close to the best athlete in the league.

Can't believe that no players from Maroochydore were in the top 20, particularly when you look at the final 16. Just goes to show how different coaches have different views about talent and any other coach may have Emily Perry starting 5 in that Queensland team. She is a match winner and plays the game with heart and toughness. Just got to shake your head. No wonder kids get disillusioned.

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I've long held the view that whether a player ultimately succeeds or not (I don't of think making a State Under Age team, while an achievement to be proud of, as 'making it') is not determined by the teams they make along the way, rather by how they respond to the inevitable disappointments of missing out on teams. Just a thought!

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I've long held the view that whether a player ultimately succeeds or not (I don't of think making a State Under Age team, while an achievement to be proud of, as 'making it') is not determined by the teams they make along the way, rather by how they respond to the inevitable disappointments of missing out on teams. Just a thought!

Well said....

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2 players made the state team from Runaway Bay who are sitting 5th or 6th on the ladder and cannot make finals as opposed to Maroochydore, Logan, South West who are all in the top 4 and only had 2 players between them. So its not really all about 'game winners,' points scored, Brisbane rarely have players in top scorers yet are 3 games clear at the top and havent lost a game. There is no set equation to how the coaching staff select the team there is no point trying to work it out. You don't know how the players performed at trials, how the other girls performed, maybe they cause problems in the team, you never know. Maybe since these players are often in the top scorers, maybe they are too individual for how the coach wants the game played?? you will never work it out and there will always be some happy and some unhappy! you cant please everyone!

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what so marochydoore only have one player to get them in to the top four??

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what so marochydoore only have one player to get them in to the top four??

Maybe you should read what I wrote again... no where did i say anything about Maroochydore having one player. I was very careful to use a lot of maybes because with selections of state teams you will never know unless you are the head coach. it is all just maybes! I believe i said MAYBE these playerS are a little too individual for the coaches liking!

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Can't believe that no players from Maroochydore were in the top 20, particularly when you look at the final 16. Just goes to show how different coaches have different views about talent and any other coach may have Emily Perry starting 5 in that Queensland team. She is a match winner and plays the game with heart and toughness. Just got to shake your head. No wonder kids get disillusioned.

How do you think they will go against logan this weekend who have made there way into the top 4

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How do you think they will go against logan this weekend who have made there way into the top 4

For some reason they stuggle against the logan girls. At 2009 classics they thumped Gold Coast (eventual winners) then slumped to Logan who have also beaten then in 2010. Tough game.

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Don't think so, they had their chance with a State team a few years back, worst selections ever and worst performance ever by a Qld team. The team had a miserable experience.
Worse selections was the exact problem. They should have taken the whole Maroochydore team that they won the State Classics with a few weels earlier and been done with it.

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So now we've gone from one or two players being 'unlucky' to miss out on a State team, to a whole Maroochydore team being good enough to be used as a State team?

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Not only are Maroochydore second, they have two of the top three scorers in the league. I see that neither of them even made the top 20 when it came to state selections - bizzarre! These two were dominant against SW last nght, as they have been all season. Emily Perry (Maroochydore version) must be close to the best athlete in the league.

you cannot put players in their different positions and say that a 3 is better than a 5 or a 1. different players are good at their different things. i think that the maroochydoore girls are a very well knit group but as soon as you take one or two of them out of there and place them in different teams, they 'lose' their talent. the fact that the maroochydoore girls are first two on the scorers does not mean anything in terms of their ability, just that maybe they are the ones that carry their team and their only scorers!

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you cannot put players in their different positions and say that a 3 is better than a 5 or a 1. different players are good at their different things. i think that the maroochydoore girls are a very well knit group but as soon as you take one or two of them out of there and place them in different teams, they 'lose' their talent. the fact that the maroochydoore girls are first two on the scorers does not mean anything in terms of their ability, just that maybe they are the ones that carry their team and their only scorers!

I don't think anyone could question the ability of those 2 Maroochydore players. Every week they get attention from the opposition, best opposition guards pick them up and they have to work hard for everything they get.

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Not only are Maroochydore second, they have two of the top three scorers in the league. I see that neither of them even made the top 20 when it came to state selections - bizzarre! These two were dominant against SW last nght, as they have been all season. Emily Perry (Maroochydore version) must be close to the best athlete in the league.

Yes MDore are second, but they way you put it they are a runaway second place. In fact they are equal second with two other teams. Not quite the dominant clear second place you allude to above.

Mum; get over it, I am sure your daughter has and is moving on, you should too.

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marochdoore lost to logan by 2 in overtime.
the marochydoore team had there worst shooting game yet..
but where was the game winner when they needed her.. she was throwing the ball away and taking stupid shots.. maybe people need to take another look at how she really plays..

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logan girls beat maroochy 68-66, logan was up for majority of the game, but then started to take bad shots, maroochy scored something like 8 consecutive points from fast breaks, logan coach made the decision to press in the 4th term and scored 9 consecutive point off the press. logan was down by 1 then made a 3 which had a good bounce with 30 or 40 seconds to go, maroochy drove to the basketball got fouled, missed one made one. around 20 seconds to go, logan held it, there was a fumble from a bad pass so no shot was taken. OVERTIME. 1 or 2 fouls by logan which sent maroochy to the line, missed 2 out of 4 i think, then logan scored, then scored once more to make logan up by 2, maroochy ball, good containment D by logan which forced a bad shot, logan got the rebound + scored a foul, logan ball from base with 3 seconds to go, then game was over.

all in all it was a good game by both teams, very exciting at the end.

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logan girls beat maroochy 68-66, logan was up for majority of the game, but then started to take bad shots, maroochy scored something like 8 consecutive points from fast breaks, logan coach made the decision to press in the 4th term and scored 9 consecutive point off the press. logan was down by 1 then made a 3 which had a good bounce with 30 or 40 seconds to go, maroochy drove to the basketball got fouled, missed one made one. around 20 seconds to go, logan held it, there was a fumble from a bad pass so no shot was taken. OVERTIME. 1 or 2 fouls by logan which sent maroochy to the line, missed 2 out of 4 i think, then logan scored, then scored once more to make logan up by 2, maroochy ball, good containment D by logan which forced a bad shot, logan got the rebound + scored a foul, logan ball from base with 3 seconds to go, then game was over.

all in all it was a good game by both teams, very exciting at the end.


Very exciting game to watch, Logan have some of the best defensive players in premier league.

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marochdoore lost to logan by 2 in overtime.
the marochydoore team had there worst shooting game yet..
but where was the game winner when they needed her.. she was throwing the ball away and taking stupid shots.. maybe people need to take another look at how she really plays..

who is this "matchwinner" you speak of?

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who is this "matchwinner" you speak of?



yea, who is this matchwinner you speak of?

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I am amazed that no-one has mentioned Brisbane remaining undefeated throughout the season to date.
as much as it hurts me to say it, congratulations to Brisbane for such an achievement.

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yea, who is this matchwinner you speak of?

they are referring to maroochydore's emily perry of whom the last 2 pages have been about.
PARENTS: 'players are only as good as their last game.'

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I don't think anyone could question the ability of those 2 Maroochydore players. Every week they get attention from the opposition, best opposition guards pick them up and they have to work hard for everything they get.

as previously stated, they carry their team, and as soon as they are out of their group or team, they become lost. if you put them in another team such as logan or sw, there is no doubt that they would not be as dominant.

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Logan beat Runaway Bay by 15.

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Who's the Runner??
I thought Maroochydore was all top age cause the girls are the same from classics.

thats true. ^

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I am amazed that no-one has mentioned Brisbane remaining undefeated throughout the season to date.
as much as it hurts me to say it, congratulations to Brisbane for such an achievement.

Yes, this is a great achievement by Brisbane but, whilst it is not their fault, the standard of the U18 girls league in 2010 is poor. Put Gretel back into the GC team and they win the championship.

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Yes MDore are second, but they way you put it they are a runaway second place. In fact they are equal second with two other teams. Not quite the dominant clear second place you allude to above.

Mum; get over it, I am sure your daughter has and is moving on, you should too.

Exactly where in my previous comment do I allude to m'dore as being 'dominant'/'clear'/'runaway' (sic) second place? Equally, last time I checked, I was not a mum nor a woman, but the over-bearing mum you allude to made me laugh...as did your intellectual impoverishment.

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Yes, this is a great achievement by Brisbane but, whilst it is not their fault, the standard of the U18 girls league in 2010 is poor. Put Gretel back into the GC team and they win the championship.

I wouldnt be so sure about that since in the same year in under 16's Brisbane beat Gold Coast 3 times during the season and to knock them out of the finals. And i would say that this brisbane squad is stronger than the under 16's brisbane squad. Yes Gretel would make a huge difference but dont count your chickens before they hatch!!

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What a great season! So many close games. Well done brisbane for finishing minor premiers. Good luck to all the girls in the final.

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picks for the grandfinal???

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Why doesnt someone from maroochy assoc apply for state coach one of the paige sisters. Maybe its time for a new era of coaches

new era terry page coached state teams about 16yrs ago.

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I wouldnt be so sure about that since in the same year in under 16's Brisbane beat Gold Coast 3 times during the season and to knock them out of the finals. And i would say that this brisbane squad is stronger than the under 16's brisbane squad. Yes Gretel would make a huge difference but dont count your chickens before they hatch!!

They did beat gold coast in 16's but failed at classics, gold coast won against townsville. not sure whether brisbane even made semi's. in this age group gold coast coast have won 12's & 16's townsville won 14's. having a undefeated pl is a excellent achievement hope they go well at classics.

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2 years ago in 16s (not that it means anything due to different team makeup etc) Top 4 was Gold Coast, Cairns, Logan and Townsville. BBI and i think maroochy played for 5 and 6. @ Ipswich.

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2 years ago in 16s (not that it means anything due to different team makeup etc) Top 4 was Gold Coast, Cairns, Logan and Townsville. BBI and i think maroochy played for 5 and 6. @ Ipswich.

2 years ago Brisbane lost 1 game in the rounds... had to beat Logan by a certain amount to get through to top 4... beat Logan but not by enough so were religated to playing off for 5 & 6.
This Classics will be a different ballgame.... with so many games in 1 day, it will be the team with the strongest bench that will be there at the end of the Tourny.

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Any thoughts on the semi final games or predictions for the grand final?

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Hard game between SW & Logan , but better coaching won it for SW . Looking forward to the GF this weekend! Good Luck SW!

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Hard game between SW & Logan , but better coaching won it for SW . Looking forward to the GF this weekend! Good Luck SW!

One rebound, one shot, one violation, one steal, one block or one turnover could have determined the game. Bit harsh to blame the coach.

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One rebound, one shot, one violation, one steal, one block or one turnover could have determined the game. Bit harsh to blame the coach.

Bad call with .5 seconds to go nearly determined the game. Fortunately the right team won.

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One rebound, one shot, one violation, one steal, one block or one turnover could have determined the game. Bit harsh to blame the coach.

Not really, it was way earlier in the game when he lost it. But if he's a smart cookie he'll learn and avoid groundhog day at classics

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Any thoughts on the semi final games or predictions for the grand final?

grand final will be awful. brisbane's got it down.

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new era terry page coached state teams about 16yrs ago.
Think you'll find Terri Page head coaches the U/16 womens PL team and has trained both PLeague and Challenge Cup teams together all season. Both teams minor premiers and in the GF. Must have half a clue what she's doing?

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grand final will be awful. brisbane's got it down.

Yeah sure thing - south west won by 2. What was going on with that brisbane team?

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Yeah sure thing - south west won by 2. What was going on with that brisbane team?

Smart Coaching from Southwest, played the girls in a zone, Brisbane unable to play their normal game. Southwest would have won by more had they not turned the ball over so much.

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I am a first-time poster, tired of reading some of the negativity that oozes from this page...

Firstly, the facts:-
1. Brisbane won 15 out of 16 games this season, their only loss being to SW last night by 2 pts, in a game that wasn't decided till the final buzzer. I believe this is still a great achievement, something which the girls should be proud of...
2. Last night Brisbane certainly did not play to the same standard that they had in their 2 previous games against SW and they paid the price
3. SW made the most of their opportunities on the night and deserved the win
4. Brisbane should learn from this loss and be the better for it come classics- sometimes a loss can actually be more important than a win...

As for the "disdain for the opposition", "show pony" and "all flash" jibes, i find it hard to believe that such harsh comments would be made by a completely impartial observer...
Everyone has a right to their opinion but i think that comments such as these are unwarranted when we are discussing junior basketball- perhaps i should give you the same advice that one might give primary school students, "if you feel the need to say something so nasty, then maybe you shouldn't say anything at all"!

Anyway girls, what can't be denied is that both teams went into the game wanting to win, but someone ultimately had to lose. Thankyou for an exciting game!

Looking forward to classics....

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grand final will be awful. brisbane's got it down.

haha good pick

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This Classics will be a different ballgame.... with so many games in 1 day, it will be the team with the strongest bench that will be there at the end of the Tourny.

Agreed to an extent... but even with a strong bench if you have a bad coach it can change the whole game around

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Any predictions for Classics?

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Agreed to an extent... but even with a strong bench if you have a bad coach it can change the whole game around

definately agreed considering in the GF on saturday brisbane had all 11 of their players touch the floor by quarter time- SW had 3 players which didnt even touch the court for the whole game.

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definately agreed considering in the GF on saturday brisbane had all 11 of their players touch the floor by quarter time- SW had 3 players which didnt even touch the court for the whole game.

Maybe that was costly to Brisbane, were they about 10 down early in the game. It's a grand final, not a subbing competition.

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Maybe that was costly to Brisbane, were they about 10 down early in the game. It's a grand final, not a subbing competition.

i think the person was actually talking about when someone mentioned classics it would be a different ball game with 3 games per day. Brisbane actually using their bench would come as an advantage.

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state girls lost by 1!!!

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Any predictions for Classics?

SW to win

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well well well its happen again brisbane u18 girls team choked in the semi final against townsville today,this on top of the grand final they lost against south west well done townsville my tip south west by alot

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well well well its happen again brisbane u18 girls team choked in the semi final against townsville today,this on top of the grand final they lost against south west well done townsville my tip south west by alot

Feel sorry for Brisbane girls, too many players to get court time. Should have played the best players all game, they were coasting early. Anyones final I think.

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who coaches brissie?

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Well done Townsville.

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Feel sorry for Brisbane girls, too many players to get court time. Should have played the best players all game, they were coasting early. Anyones final I think.

Did Brisbane loose to Maroocydore for 3rd and 4th?

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Did Brisbane loose to Maroocydore for 3rd and 4th?

they did

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they did

wow great job maroochydore girls! how many state players from maroochydore this year??

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because the State team did so poorly at Nationals?

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wow great job maroochydore girls! how many state players from maroochydore this year??

move on maroochy mum/dad

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move on maroochy mum/dad

just stating the facts.

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Just what facts are you stating? That no Maroochy girls were regarded as good enough to be picked for the State team this year? That the Maroochy girls were good enough to finish third in a depleted Classics (four different teams were missing their best player for most of the weekend because they were at the Australian camp)?

As one of the girls who missed out on the Australian squad advised her similarly disappointed colleagues - 'probably better go home and train harder'. Perhaps six months of hard work will esnure they don't miss out again.

If you're complaining about the kids finishing high and missing State selection, spare a thought for the actual members of the State team who managed to finish 2nd at Nationals by a single point and still only put 1 girl on the National team while SAC (7th) put 3 girls on. Excellent coaching of an inferior group of players (this would be the same coach you seem to believe has no idea because she didn't pick any Maroochy girls) or an injustice committed against a group of very talented players (the same players that kept the Maroochy girls out of the State team)?

A lomg way of saying - move on!

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Heard 1 opinion that Pam thrashed her starting 5 at nationals come GF time they had nothing left in the tank if that is so, why didnt the bench step up.

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If you're complaining about the kids finishing high and missing State selection, spare a thought for the actual members of the State team who managed to finish 2nd at Nationals by a single point and still only put 1 girl on the National team while SAC (7th) put 3 girls on. Excellent coaching of an inferior group of players (this would be the same coach you seem to believe has no idea because she didn't pick any Maroochy girls) or an injustice committed against a group of very talented players (the same players that kept the Maroochy girls out of the State team)?

A lomg way of saying - move on!

obviously the national selectors had the same thoughts Pam had when she selected the Qld Sth team. that they selected players for roles within a team with a certain game plan. that some of the individuals who fit this plan are not necessarily the best players at the tournament, but fit this role.

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Heard 1 opinion that Pam thrashed her starting 5 at nationals come GF time they had nothing left in the tank if that is so, why didnt the bench step up.

Obviously not an opinion from anybody that was there! Given that it was a Nationals and that winning the round games was essential, Pam did an excellent job of managing playing time over the week.

While the Vics used their superior depth to run player after player at Qld, the Qld girls were in it and fighting to the very last second and if you watched the last quarter in isolation you wouldn't see any excessive fatigue (it was after all a very high quality National final - a number of independent people have said it was the game of young women's basketball they've seen).

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Heard 1 opinion that Pam thrashed her starting 5 at nationals come GF time they had nothing left in the tank if that is so, why didnt the bench step up.

as an observer unassociated with the QLD girls team in any shape or form...

this opinion and all others re Pams coaching at Nationals are bs!!

Pam is a top coach and she and her coaching team did an exceptional job with the team at Nationals. With 5 bottom age girls in the team all 10 girls played strong and hard and the reason they got to the sf was because they were rotated well during the tourny. In the gf Vic struggled to gain the win, and to do so by only 1pt says alot about the superb job Pam and co did. To the entire team it was a proud QLDer who was there at everyone of your games as you played exceptionally.

Give it a rest you sookie lalas, grow up and accept it just wasn't your daughters time!!!

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Off the endless speculation and opinions from newbys about Pams coaching..whats the go with the regional schools thingo??? Over time (10 years or so) I cant count the number of very promising junior basketballers who have been on the verge of giving the game away after being standout players in weekly BQJBC and then being passed over for selection in a school team by a coach who has no relevant coaching experience or qualifications (except they applied for the week of paid "social leave" from the headmaster and got it!) has no knowledge of the real basketball competition out there away from their cloistered school environment and couldnt really care anyway.
Its then left to the coaches who work with these kids week in week out and year in year out to then try and rebuild their self esteem and confidence in their chosen sport, their real coaches and the integrity and reputation of basketball as a sport where teams are selected fairly and on merit and junior athletes are treated fairly and equitably according to their abilities and by someone with at least a rudimentary understanding of the game of basketball at junior elite level.
There are some notable exceptions to this in those coaches who are school teachers by profession but have a solid background in the game and the players in the real world of basketball. Couldnt there be a standards criteria (apart from the "level 1" that BQ gives a bunch of them every year in return for some EdQ cash) that schools coaches have to evidence before they are allowed to impact on the basketball development of genuine players?

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Off the endless speculation and opinions from newbys about Pams coaching..whats the go with the regional schools thingo??? Over time (10 years or so) I cant count the number of very promising junior basketballers who have been on the verge of giving the game away after being standout players in weekly BQJBC and then being passed over for selection in a school team by a coach who has no relevant coaching experience or qualifications (except they applied for the week of paid "social leave" from the headmaster and got it!) has no knowledge of the real basketball competition out there away from their cloistered school environment and couldnt really care anyway.
Its then left to the coaches who work with these kids week in week out and year in year out to then try and rebuild their self esteem and confidence in their chosen sport, their real coaches and the integrity and reputation of basketball as a sport where teams are selected fairly and on merit and junior athletes are treated fairly and equitably according to their abilities and by someone with at least a rudimentary understanding of the game of basketball at junior elite level.
There are some notable exceptions to this in those coaches who are school teachers by profession but have a solid background in the game and the players in the real world of basketball. Couldnt there be a standards criteria (apart from the "level 1" that BQ gives a bunch of them every year in return for some EdQ cash) that schools coaches have to evidence before they are allowed to impact on the basketball development of genuine players?

You said it correctly when you called the way some teachers view this as a social event. Thats all it really is and anyone who thinks different is dissillusioned. I have had children involved in school sport, and my rule was you can play as long as it doesn't cost a lot of dosh and you do not miss any REAL Bball.

Making a Regional, Qld State school team or even a Australian School team might look good on the kids CV to someone who has no idea. It really means Mum and Dad have spent a fortune for little Sally or Johnnys social life!!

It is SCHOOL BALL, thats all you have to say...

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You said it correctly when you called the way some teachers view this as a social event. Thats all it really is and anyone who thinks different is dissillusioned. I have had children involved in school sport, and my rule was you can play as long as it doesn't cost a lot of dosh and you do not miss any REAL Bball.

Making a Regional, Qld State school team or even a Australian School team might look good on the kids CV to someone who has no idea. It really means Mum and Dad have spent a fortune for little Sally or Johnnys social life!!

It is SCHOOL BALL, thats all you have to say...

Unfortunately what you say has some merit but I think you have not shown any respect to the players who have been selected. Of the group selected for the Qld Schools Girls teams this year (particularly if you include the three Met East girls who were unavailable) - then you will find in that group numerous players who own medals at this year's National Championships (playing REAL basketball). It being a Schools team doesn't diminish their ability.

While it would be nice to have more faith in the schools basketball system it is only strengthened by participation rather than withdrawal. Running down the system and players selected will only serve to diminish the quality of the tournament (as players continue to withdraw) and while that will add merit to your argument, you'll be the only person that benefits.

There is more bargaining around the selection table in schools teams but there is also a different function in that the schools pathways provides opportunities for some players who wouldn't otherwise receive them. Given that Met East won the final by 35 would it have been logical to select that team 'en masse' to go forward?

BUT..... if this is the Maroochydore campaign again, I take it back and just say 'move on'.

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There is more bargaining around the selection table in schools teams but there is also a different function in that the schools pathways provides opportunities for some players who wouldn't otherwise receive them.
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Then maybe they need to reassure the players and parents that selection to a schools team is a process of bargaining around the table and providing opportunities for players who wouldnt get them elsewhere. Much more preferable than leaving kids dumbstruck how they are so successful in representative PL competition but cant make their school team. Thanks for that explanation. Put succintly like that it clarifies things for me as well. Do think its imperitive that the actual difference between schools and mainstream junior elite competition is clearly communicated to players and parents before they make the decision to shell out all the extra money, take the kids time and energies away from their regular training programs and Premier League commitments, and avoid the confusion and self doubt that comes about when they dont make these 'special' teams.

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Are we talking about the Qld Schools Team that left players so disillusioned or one of the Regional Teams? Thought the schools team was pretty close to the money on the week's performances (which after all, is all the selectors can go on - they don't get to see most players on a regular basis).

[Jeanelle Hurst]

The school basketball system is not strengthened by participation.

The school basketball system functions solely to showcase SCHOOL SPORT at the expense of families who are drip feeding the club system in Australia.

School basketball has a parasitic relationship with basketball australia.


So much wasted energy is spent witchhunting team selectors.


The problem lies in both the club and school systems not accomodating the needs and objectives of all our emerging athletes.

Both systems are bottle necks allowing ten kids through at a time. The math on this issue is not complex.....How many kids are left behind

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With most of the State team moving up to U/18's this coming season and Shane Heal steering the Seahawks program, who's who in the zoo for 2010-11? Sounds like the Seahawks have attracted some quality players from their strong finish to last season and will be everyones bogey-team by gaining that bit of height they were missing last year.
Any team with Tiana in it is going to be competitive whether top or bottom age and with Donnely onboard Districts are sure to be right up there again. How many of the BBI 18's from last season are still eligible? Maroochydore will be virtually the same team straight from 16s with maybe 1 or 2 from the previous 18s team If the Froling family relocate to the Sunny Coast with work then Maroochy might even be a show for 2 teams of PL standard.
Tiana from Districts set the bar for this womens age group last year and all the girls having now had the opportunity to see how the game is played at National level, plus quality coaches like Hammer getting involved, we can expect a fairly high standard and exciting competition in U/18 W this year. With Sandy Brondello and husband Olaf returning home to Qld to steer the Thunder WNBL program theres some positive signs ahead for womens basketball in Queensland.

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With most of the State team moving up to U/18's this coming season and Shane Heal steering the Seahawks program, who's who in the zoo for 2010-11? Sounds like the Seahawks have attracted some quality players from their strong finish to last season and will be everyones bogey-team by gaining that bit of height they were missing last year.
Any team with Tiana in it is going to be competitive whether top or bottom age and with Donnely onboard Districts are sure to be right up there again. How many of the BBI 18's from last season are still eligible? Maroochydore will be virtually the same team straight from 16s with maybe 1 or 2 from the previous 18s team If the Froling family relocate to the Sunny Coast with work then Maroochy might even be a show for 2 teams of PL standard.
Tiana from Districts set the bar for this womens age group last year and all the girls having now had the opportunity to see how the game is played at National level, plus quality coaches like Hammer getting involved, we can expect a fairly high standard and exciting competition in U/18 W this year. With Sandy Brondello and husband Olaf returning home to Qld to steer the Thunder WNBL program theres some positive signs ahead for womens basketball in Queensland.

M Donnelly is off to the AIS shortly, she will not be suiting up for SD next year.

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M Donnelly is off to the AIS shortly, she will not be suiting up for SD next year.
From what I heard at Nationals, Tiana most likely will too. They do release them for State Classics however so we wont be breathing easier just yet.

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With most of the State team moving up to U/18's this coming season and Shane Heal steering the Seahawks program, who's who in the zoo for 2010-11? Sounds like the Seahawks have attracted some quality players from their strong finish to last season and will be everyones bogey-team by gaining that bit of height they were missing last year.
Any team with Tiana in it is going to be competitive whether top or bottom age and with Donnely onboard Districts are sure to be right up there again. How many of the BBI 18's from last season are still eligible? Maroochydore will be virtually the same team straight from 16s with maybe 1 or 2 from the previous 18s team If the Froling family relocate to the Sunny Coast with work then Maroochy might even be a show for 2 teams of PL standard.
Tiana from Districts set the bar for this womens age group last year and all the girls having now had the opportunity to see how the game is played at National level, plus quality coaches like Hammer getting involved, we can expect a fairly high standard and exciting competition in U/18 W this year. With Sandy Brondello and husband Olaf returning home to Qld to steer the Thunder WNBL program theres some positive signs ahead for womens basketball in Queensland.

pirates? came second at classics last time for this age group and second in premier league, christina maddie olivia and i hear kalani.p heading over there. cannot see a lot of teams getting past them, even tiana's team, she's a great player but can't carry a team to a bqjbc gold, let alone a state championship.

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pirates? came second at classics last time for this age group and second in premier league, christina maddie olivia and i hear kalani.p heading over there. cannot see a lot of teams getting past them, even tiana's team, she's a great player but can't carry a team to a bqjbc gold, let alone a state championship.
Well she did last year in 16s and carried the state team to a silver at Nationals as well so would rather be playing with her than against her. If SW are the gun team this year then I guess thats why Kalani is ditching Districts (and a very good coach) to move over there. (Ho hum) Heard the Sunny Coast team have a new arrival scheduled for the end of the Victorian school year too. Whatever is solid or just rumour the 18 girls comp looks pretty interesting this next year or two.

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Well she did last year in 16s and carried the state team to a silver at Nationals as well so would rather be playing with her than against her. If SW are the gun team this year then I guess thats why Kalani is ditching Districts (and a very good coach) to move over there. (Ho hum) Heard the Sunny Coast team have a new arrival scheduled for the end of the Victorian school year too. Whatever is solid or just rumour the 18 girls comp looks pretty interesting this next year or two.

with the likes of kalani, megan willis etc around her they didnt have a chance of losing. this year she will be playing against players much taller, stronger and who have already been playing in under 18s which is a whole other step up from 16s. not taking anything away from tiana because she is a great player but in my opinion there are several players throughout the competition who are at her level and even higher. whose the districts coach this year?