QBL 2009 - Awards & Afterthoughts

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tom ammar given time and a role is a nbl player the other boys are just good local players.yw4

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Curran will be in some trouble this season, to start with he is not taking over the best team in the league and now may have to find himself a new 2 guard if keirnan leaves (which i highly doubt), all i can say is good luck mate you will need it,

Also Ben there is no chance in the world kyle could play the point in SEABL, he can't play the point in QBL so if summers is taking him to gambier, he will need a lot of work, summers shouldn't play favourites and just pick a team that can win games, not just he ol boys from bundy, bam bam is to out of shape for SEABL aswell.
needs to hit up the likes of ammar, josh knight, todd meyerding,

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Curran coaching QBL, you'd have to be joking. Adam is not a coach and couldn't handle coaching the local Under18 rep team even with the help of Keirnan.

I'm surprised that Bundaberg Radiology are still supporting the Bulls this year especially with the financial woes the clubs in after the last season.

And by the way Hanson will not return to Bundy

[Unregistered]

Congrats to Curran and Clarkson on their new gigs. Best of luck to both of you.

Any word on the other clubs that have advertised. I know Brissy, Tba and Towny have called for apps?

I guess SD will be advertising soon with Bruce headed to Knox, so we may see a QBL coach leave for that gig too.

Is Fearne gonna do Marlins again now that he's got Taipans to think about?
Is Rat keen to go again on the Coast, let's hope so?

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Found this over on OzHoops:


For those who may not have read the Big V Magazine and seen the BA announcement here it is -

"The Basketball Australia board met on October 5, 2009, and the following was agreed as per the recommendation of the High Performance Review:

• The Board resolved to delegate the development of a concept for an underpinning competition for the professional leagues to the Competition Commission.

• The Board further resolved that the Competitions Commission commence discussion with interested parties to develop this competition.

• A moratorium on external change in the structure of the State Leagues, Waratah, Central, QBL, Big V and SEABL competitions from the 2009 models, for 2010 has been advised by the board.

• Basketball Australia is looking to create a ‘league’ concept which achieves a league sanctioned and administered by Basketball Australia under the Competitions Commission, a league with a strong development focus, with strong links to grass roots associations as well as NBL links for emerging talent, a financially viable league which is inclusive, providing all Australian associations with the aspirational opportunity to participate, a national competition with potential representation from all states, direct pathway linkages to State Associations and their State Leagues, vital part of the development ‘pathway’ directly positioned above the state leagues and below the NBL, an obvious and direct pathway for players, coaches and officials, and the aim would be to commence this league in 2011.

Basketball Australia has met with the SEABL Chairman and SEABL has agreed to keep any expansion plans in abeyance while this planning process takes place."

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Congrats to Curran and Clarkson on their new gigs. Best of luck to both of you.

Any word on the other clubs that have advertised. I know Brissy, Tba and Towny have called for apps?

I guess SD will be advertising soon with Bruce headed to Knox, so we may see a QBL coach leave for that gig too.

Is Fearne gonna do Marlins again now that he's got Taipans to think about?
Is Rat keen to go again on the Coast, let's hope so?

Not sure about Fearne - Taipans Assistant Coach Mick Downer is coaching Taipans Academy, along with Joel Khalu, and some of the academy members are fringe Marlins players and train with the Marlins so maybe Downer will take the gig?

[Unregistered]

...change in the structure of the State Leagues, from the 2009 models, for 2010 has been advised by the board.

great, just when we got it right in queensland. so what are we changing?

...a league sanctioned and administered by Basketball Australia under the Competitions Commission

i guess this doesn't mean seabl.

... a financially viable league which is inclusive, providing all Australian associations with the aspirational opportunity to participate...

sounds great. we have enough trouble doing this in qld let alone nationally.

...direct pathway linkages to State Associations and their State Leagues.....directly positioned above the state leagues

hmmm, so we are still going to have the state leagues but this is managed by bq as well? good luck.

... the aim would be to commence this league in 2011...SEABL has agreed to keep any expansion plans in abeyance...

i guess this means bbi and rocky, or anybody else, are staying putt next year.

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btw

i went looking for this article in the latest issue of the Big V Overtime — October Issue (http://www3.bigv.com.au/uploads/media/Overtime_02.pdf). nice job on the big v website. steve should have a look on there for some pointers as to how he could fill in his time now that the season is over :)

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Force appoints basketball coach (http://www.qt.com.au/story/2009/10/29/Force-appoints-new-basketball-coach/)

NEWLY-appointed Ipswich Force men's basketball coach Chris Clarkson is one of those people who makes an instant impression.

He stands tall, speaks well, loves his game and has plenty of playing experience.

But perhaps most importantly, he sounds like he's in control.

More....

[Unregistered]

So who is coaching where for the up coming season? or is it still too far out for some clubs?
Cairns - Fearne?Downer?
Towny - Rose?
Rocky - Tweedy
Mackay - King
Glady - ?
Maroochy - ?
Cab - ?
Nthside - Haly
Brisvegas - Ryan?
Bundy - Curran
SthWst - JC
Toow - ?
Goldy - ?
Ippy - Clarkson

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Cairns - Fearne
Rocky - Tweedy
Mackay - King
Gladdy - Smith
Towny - Applications Close 12 Nov (http://www.sportingpulse.com/assoc_page.cgi?client=1-4479-0-0-0&sID=63408&&news_task=DETAIL&articleID=10321883&sectionID=63408)
Bundy - Curran
Maroochy - Wazza
Northside - Haly
BBI -Applications Close 30 Oct (http://www.sportingpulse.com/assoc_page.cgi?client=1-4479-0-0-0&sID=63408&&news_task=DETAIL&articleID=10270624&sectionID=63408)
Coastal - Ayanbadejo
Goldy - Rat
SW - JC
Ippy - Clarkson
Neers - ?
Seahawks - Lawyer

[2 cents]

when do QBL n seabl nominations close??

is runaway bay officially in or are you just letting us know Lawyer is coachin them for D league??

interesting to see some of the different levels of coaches throughout the league and how they will go next season...

[Unregistered]

Nominations close this Friday (6th), with a delegate meeting to be held on Sunday (8th) for the teams that nominated (only)..

[Unregistered]

maroochy will be an under the radar team next season, dont underestimate them. they could be dangerous

[Unregistered]

d-day for nominations.

word on the street is that there are still a couple of southern teams yet to nominate and show they are financial.

better get a move on fred :D

[Unregistered]

What teams out of interest in the south?

[Unregistered]

all 14 teams from last season nominated.

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maroochy will be an under the radar team next season, dont underestimate them. they could be dangerous


Yeah well they really only have no place to go but up.
But agreed, add another few wins to there season.

[Mr bEn]

maroochy will be an under the radar team next season, dont underestimate them. they could be dangerous

Not a hater, but what's going to be so different? No more Dante (not necessarily a bad thing) and I imagine Hedges may suit up again?

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no hedges no Dante no budget but will be having a crack no matter what
Zane scotty josh not back till round 4 or 5 The local boys will have to step up
One advantage its there second year together and no real expectations with their roster playing the legit underdog role

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Ipswich Olympian wants big impact (http://www.qt.com.au/story/2009/11/09/ipswich-olympian-wants-big-impact/)

PREPARING for her third season as Ipswich Force women’s coach, former Olympian Trish Cockrem has issued a Queensland Basketball League warning.

“If we don’t make the playoffs this coming year then I won’t coach Ipswich,” Cockrem said yesterday.

With the Force women resuming their first three-week block of training on November 22, Cockrem has been scouting for tall recruits.

She’s hopeful former Women’s National Basketball League point guard Rachel Byrne returns.

Experienced Southern Districts player Rebecca Stephens is also on Cockrem’s list of signings to strengthen a rapidly improving Ipswich side.

more...

[2 cents]

Clips always have a crack and it's good to see you ave faith in them but no dante no hedges and no zane josh or scotty til round 4 as good a coach as Waz is he cant work miracles...

is Dunc the spunk or Frank the tank making a return to the purple army? who do they have that's going to get the job done???

i take it by the silence runaway bay still haven't got their act together to put a team in ABA yet???

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wazza has declared that this will be his last year coaching as the kids have grown up and moved out of the house. has decided to spend more time in the naked room.

franky was considering a return but the league front office declared that the small wheels at the end of his walking frame constituted an advantage and banned it.

duncan returned to qut to finish his twelved year and has decided to play for ippi now that chris is coaching. he says it is good to finally play for someone who understands that sharing the rock is just waisting valuable seconds of the shot clock.

runaway hawks were never considering the move to qbl. they are very happy in division 3. and on that note bq have started a competition to find a replacement name for the d-league now that larry has decided that d-league is a great new concept and fitting name for the nbl division 2.

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Clips always have a crack and it's good to see you ave faith in them but no dante no hedges and no zane josh or scotty til round 4 as good a coach as Waz is he cant work miracles...

is Dunc the spunk or Frank the tank making a return to the purple army? who do they have that's going to get the job done???

i take it by the silence runaway bay still haven't got their act together to put a team in ABA yet???

I'm not so sure his first two stints were pretty miraculous thoough the pickings look slim and they are not a secret anymore but having nothing to lose is a liberating feeling

[Nothing]

Given that the teams met on the week-end I thought I would go and see what was happening as far as QBL goes for 2010. Given BQ has a designated staff member on the pay role one would have thought that we would have had at least some sort of press release. Nothing at all.

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no hedges no Dante no budget but will be having a crack no matter what
Zane scotty josh not back till round 4 or 5 The local boys will have to step up
One advantage its there second year together and no real expectations with their roster playing the legit underdog role

even so, if the young boys get 2 or more wins before josh scotty and zane get back, they should be in pretty good shape. josh will be bigger and better which will definately help down low and scotty will be much better with his college experience and hopefully put up bigger numbers than last season. and zane should be ready for redemption on last seasons performance.

[Fly]

even so, if the young boys get 2 or more wins before josh scotty and zane get back, they should be in pretty good shape. josh will be bigger and better which will definately help down low and scotty will be much better with his college experience and hopefully put up bigger numbers than last season. and zane should be ready for redemption on last seasons performance.

How are things in the USA guys?

[2 cents]

How are things in the USA guys?

hahaha they are at Uni and if i remember correctly students usually have some free time on their hands.. good to see the team support :)

[2 cents]

Just had a look at the QBL agm minutes some VERY interesting points being raised this year with a little help from outside influences I would say...

I’l start with the business of the pools:

After much complaining mainly from the north of a cr@p finals system the possibilities for next year are:

a) Exactly the same as this season

or

b) 2 pools of 7 made up of randomly selected teams with rocky/mkay and cairns/tville being the only two selected together for either pool probably due to geographic reasons..

so for example we could have GC Power Ippy Tville Cairns and Clips all in the same pool sounds fair, but the cost of this probably far outweighs any thoughts southern clubs have of being fair, no disrespect intended but if your in the pool of ease why would you want to change to a system that’s not only more expensive but has the possibility of making your path to the finals that much harder???
We can only hope I guess…

The other point that tickled my fancy was Agreed Outcome #1 and I quote

1. Social Media
Further explore policy in relation to comments made within “social media” and the link to code of conduct & tribunals

Are they serious??? So I pose a question to you people out there in “social media” land… Ask yourself this loyal BD reader how long has Ben Does existed and the same sort of comments pop every year with no action or regulation other then our lovely BD mods telling us that’s enough guys or this post has been deleted due to you being silly now etc???

Is the QBL board REALLY so very interested in the going ons of the “social media” or has this been brought up because “certain upper echelon people” opened their mouths trying to be haughty in the not so distant past on a “certain” forum on a topic involving seabl in regards to a joke and got shut down by a certain poster???

I know for example that our rep has no idea about the magic of Bendoes.com and that of the rest of our local board the coach is the only one who checks semi regularly and mainly because someone tells him about something funny that’s been posted.

Hahaha what a joke… either way I cant wait to see the outcome of their further exploration and not to mention how they plan to enforce the code of conduct & tribunals if people do step out of line, considering we hear complaints about our website not being updated is this really necessary or is the board wasting more valuable dollars because someone got their feelings hurt…

[CRACK]

That post on the seabl thread has been edited, but because the user that objected replied to post you can still read without the editing. So he did not like the post but thought he would copy it to reply and have it on twice.......Smart hey 2 cents!

[Unregistered]

Yeah they would be interested in social media, cause they lack their own forms of media to postively promote the game. There website sucks, and where else can you find info about the league expect on here??

[Agree]

Just had a look at the QBL agm minutes some VERY interesting points being raised this year with a little help from outside influences I would say...

I’l start with the business of the pools:

After much complaining mainly from the north of a cr@p finals system the possibilities for next year are:

a) Exactly the same as this season

or

b) 2 pools of 7 made up of randomly selected teams with rocky/mkay and cairns/tville being the only two selected together for either pool probably due to geographic reasons..

so for example we could have GC Power Ippy Tville Cairns and Clips all in the same pool sounds fair, but the cost of this probably far outweighs any thoughts southern clubs have of being fair, no disrespect intended but if your in the pool of ease why would you want to change to a system that’s not only more expensive but has the possibility of making your path to the finals that much harder???
We can only hope I guess…

The other point that tickled my fancy was Agreed Outcome #1 and I quote

1. Social Media
Further explore policy in relation to comments made within “social media” and the link to code of conduct & tribunals

Are they serious??? So I pose a question to you people out there in “social media” land… Ask yourself this loyal BD reader how long has Ben Does existed and the same sort of comments pop every year with no action or regulation other then our lovely BD mods telling us that’s enough guys or this post has been deleted due to you being silly now etc???

Is the QBL board REALLY so very interested in the going ons of the “social media” or has this been brought up because “certain upper echelon people” opened their mouths trying to be haughty in the not so distant past on a “certain” forum on a topic involving seabl in regards to a joke and got shut down by a certain poster???

I know for example that our rep has no idea about the magic of Bendoes.com and that of the rest of our local board the coach is the only one who checks semi regularly and mainly because someone tells him about something funny that’s been posted.

Hahaha what a joke… either way I cant wait to see the outcome of their further exploration and not to mention how they plan to enforce the code of conduct & tribunals if people do step out of line, considering we hear complaints about our website not being updated is this really necessary or is the board wasting more valuable dollars because someone got their feelings hurt…

Sad as this may be I have to agree with you on the social media discussion. What this has to do with QBL I have no real idea. BQ state very clearly they do not have control nor encourage staff and others to read or input. At the same time they turn a blind eye when those involved advertise state programs etc. The simple answer is they need only make the BQ site a lot better so people go there to see what is going on. They do or did have a marketing person I thought so surely that is their job. A simple question here which will go a long way to showing you all what you are being dircetd by. Who are the current Board members. I am guessing that most will not be able to name two.

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Sad as this may be I have to agree with you on the social media discussion. What this has to do with QBL I have no real idea. BQ state very clearly they do not have control nor encourage staff and others to read or input. At the same time they turn a blind eye when those involved advertise state programs etc. The simple answer is they need only make the BQ site a lot better so people go there to see what is going on. They do or did have a marketing person I thought so surely that is their job. A simple question here which will go a long way to showing you all what you are being dircetd by. Who are the current Board members. I am guessing that most will not be able to name two.

Well, the current Board Members are listed on the website so I can name two, but having said that, the one position that changed at the last AGM (several months ago now) has not been updated.

[Dunc]

Sweet I got a call up to Ippy, didn't know about this. Wasting valuable seconds of the shot clock, yeah we wouldn't wanna do that lol, once that shot clock gets down to 15 you better jack it eh? Especially if you shot 29% last year or were a big man that was supposed to be an athletic rebounder and averaged 5 boards, interesting thoughts tho...

[Wrong]

Well, the current Board Members are listed on the website so I can name two, but having said that, the one position that changed at the last AGM (several months ago now) has not been updated.

If rumours are right Fitz is gone and Hamlton Smith leads the crew. I think you will find Young is well and trully gone so there are only 3 of he 5 elected still around.

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State league basketball coming to Caboolture (http://caboolture-shire-herald.whereilive.com.au/sport/story/state-league-basketball-coming-to-caboolture/)

HOPES of lifting the profile of local basketball have been given a major shot in the arm following a decision to stage all Caboolture Suns Queensland Basketball League home games at the Morayfield Park Leisure Centre next year.

The Suns have played at the Caloundra Indoor Sports Stadium the past six years, under the name the Coastal Suns.

But the Caloundra location had left the Suns with an identity crisis of sorts, with teams training at Caboolture and then playing on the Sunshine Coast.

more...

[2 cents]

so does this mean they are now the Caboolture Suns or are they still the Coastal Suns or Caloundra Suns whatever their name was???

anyone know when the QBL yearbook is coming out? what it is and if it's going to be released online as well?

[Unregistered]

maybe they are the Caboolture Caloundra RSL Suns. do we need quotes for Caloundra RSL.

[Mr bEn]

Not having a chop, but is the Caboolture centre up to QABL standards?

[The Joker]

fairly similar to the caloundra centre. Not as much seating, unless they have movable stands stored somewhere

[darkjedi]

Not having a chop, but is the Caboolture centre up to QABL standards?

The floor is so-so from years of Roller-skating & the like, but no worse than some of the other floors around the place. At least it has a decent grandstand by the main court..

[The Trailer]

Dark jedi and the joker you guys kidding yourself.the lesuire centre is the worst court around. I think toowoomba's court is much better and the coloundra centre is the best one around in the qbl. I think it's all coming down to $$$$$$$$$$$$.Probaly dante asking too much got cut cost some where!!!!!!!

[Unregistered]

Does anyone know who the coaches for the girls teams are going to be.

[Unregistered]

So there goes the famous cross town rivalry between coastal and the clippers. Was always a great weekend to watch basketball when these 2 met. The local news was all over and the local papers. They were getting good crowds. Way to go, lets stuff up something else that was good in the league.

[Unregistered]

Dark jedi and the joker you guys kidding yourself.the lesuire centre is the worst court around. I think toowoomba's court is much better and the coloundra centre is the best one around in the qbl. I think it's all coming down to $$$$$$$$$$$$.Probaly dante asking too much got cut cost some where!!!!!!!
dante worth every penny! would play on asphalt and go watch games in the rain to see the great man play. BQ should be paying him appearance fees.

[The Joker]

Dark jedi and the joker you guys kidding yourself.the lesuire centre is the worst court around. I think toowoomba's court is much better and the coloundra centre is the best one around in the qbl. I think it's all coming down to $$$$$$$$$$$$.Probaly dante asking too much got cut cost some where!!!!!!!

You have obviously never seen the floor in Toowoomba. It has bumps, ridges and nails coming out everywhere. Not to mention slippery as

[darkjedi]

Dark jedi and the joker you guys kidding yourself.the lesuire centre is the worst court around. I think toowoomba's court is much better and the coloundra centre is the best one around in the qbl. I think it's all coming down to $$$$$$$$$$$$.Probaly dante asking too much got cut cost some where!!!!!!!

The floor @ Morayfield isn't great, but it's solid, isn't too slippery & doesn't hurt ankles. Sure it's no Boondall, but does the job. (Also means a 8 minute drive to the stadium for me, as opposed to 45min :P )

[The Trailer]

The floor @ Morayfield isn't great, but it's solid, isn't too slippery & doesn't hurt ankles. Sure it's no Boondall, but does the job. (Also means a 8 minute drive to the stadium for me, as opposed to 45min :P )

hey its only 15 mins for me but i would rather travel 45 mins to a better court and stadium with better facilities!!!!!

[Unregistered]

dante worth every penny! would play on asphalt and go watch games in the rain to see the great man play. BQ should be paying him appearance fees.

What you doin on here Dante??

[2 cents]

You have obviously never seen the floor in Toowoomba. It has bumps, ridges and nails coming out everywhere. Not to mention slippery as

Twmba's floor isn't that bad yeah it has a rise or two and that dead spot where you bounce it and the ball doesn't come back but most courts have them... off the top of my head i know Rocky does and i think Ippy, BBI an GC have similiar problems...

it's the ice skating on the way to the dressing rooms that worries me about Neers home court those tiles when we played there were a great warm up area for figure ice skating comps...

the other thing i dont understand is how the rivalry is over now they have moved stadiums??? although i'm geographically challenged surely the papers and the news coverage would be the same if not still close to similar for both teams...

[2 cents]

ok this is going to seem a little offensive but what dumbar$e did the 1st rough draft for next season????

Power have their 1st triple header of their brief career which would be ok except its play Tville friday, Cairns Satday then Tville Sunday...

Mackay also have the privilege of a Cairns Tville Cairns triple header...

maybe its just me but that just seems really ridiculous...

[Unregistered]

You will find that the reason foe the triple header is due to pool C only having 4 teams, so to make up the extra game every team has to play an extra game.

The problem is that nobody wants to pay for an extra road trip to Cairns or Townsville, especially when you only play the one game. So to make up the difference some teams play the extra game on the same trip.

I am sure that if your club would rather play your extra game at a different time, and your club is happy to pay for the extra trip, then Townsville would be happy to comply.

[2 cents]

sarcasm noted but all i heard was blah blah lets look after SEQ an lets beep the guys with money in an already sh!tty pool even more cos the pool of ease needs more help to get a decent win loss record...

if thats the reason make some one play those teams twice that aren't in the POD an playing C/T away that year instead of making the two teams that are already playing them twice play them again???

why do we need to play the extra game against someone in our own pool why not play the extra game against someone in another pool make everyone do triple headers???
would that make it easier Mr sarcasm?

[Unregistered]

You must have misunderstood. There was no sarcasm intended.
The statement was based on pure facts.

The fact is that the reason for the current format is based purely on financial reasons. I am sure everybody would rather have a full home/away format but the reality is that some clubs (yes, the majority in the south) can only afford one road-trip per year.

That is also why it was decided that the extra game should be inter-pool.

I am sure that any of the teams in pool c would be happy to trade places with you if you would be prepared to subsidize the extra travel costs. No sarcasm intended.

And before you suggest that the teams who can't afford it shouldn't be in the league, just remember back a few years when the number of teams who could afford it was down to 5 (and no, your club wasn't one of them).

[Unregistered]

You must have misunderstood. There was no sarcasm intended.
The statement was based on pure facts.

The fact is that the reason for the current format is based purely on financial reasons. I am sure everybody would rather have a full home/away format but the reality is that some clubs (yes, the majority in the south) can only afford one road-trip per year.

That is also why it was decided that the extra game should be inter-pool.

I am sure that any of the teams in pool c would be happy to trade places with you if you would be prepared to subsidize the extra travel costs. No sarcasm intended.

And before you suggest that the teams who can't afford it shouldn't be in the league, just remember back a few years when the number of teams who could afford it was down to 5 (and no, your club wasn't one of them).

I would bet that your team wasn't one of the 5 either?

Has you said it is all about the money. Quailty suffers but hey we have a psuedo full state league that everyone can afford!

Expect crazy and unfair draws when the league is run on a shoestring budget to cater for the "more is better" brigade. Eight out of the 14 teams supported the 3 pool proposal. The majority have spoken, so 2010 is more of the same, deal with it folks.

[Unregistered]

Expect crazy and unfair draws when the league is run on a shoestring budget to cater for the "more is better" brigade..

Have you ever had a look at the way the NBA is set up? Rankings within Divisions within Conferences. A team from the West with a worse record than all the teams in the East can still make the Grand Final. There is no way both Lakers and Phoenix can make the final. Or Boston and Cleveland.

What about SEABL. There is no way both SD and Knox can make the final. Even if they are the two best teams in the league.

"crazy and unfair" is a fact of life, even in leagues with money.

Still, I wouldn't want to be doing a triple header up north :D I would be bitching too...

[Unregistered]

You must have misunderstood. There was no sarcasm intended.
The statement was based on pure facts.
IL BELIEVE THAT WHEN AL ADMITS HIM AN HIS FRIEND WERE CAUGHT OVER REACTING TO A HUMOROUS POST ON ANOTHER THREAD
IM REPLYING IN CAPS AS I DONT KNOW HOW TO MULTI-QUOTE AS YET..

The fact is that the reason for the current format is based purely on financial reasons. I am sure everybody would rather have a full home/away format but the reality is that some clubs (yes, the majority in the south) can only afford one road-trip per year.
WELL IM LEAD TO BELIEVE THAT ANOTHER FORMAT WAS AVAILABLE WHICH WAS CLOSER TO A FULL STATE COMP FOR AN EXTRA FEW GRAND BUT THE REAL REALITY IS THAT 8 OF 14 TEAMS VOTED FOR THE SAME SH!TTY 3 POOL SYSTEM... WHICH SOME WOULD SEE AS A REALITY THAT THE SOUTH TEAMS HAVE A SYSTEM WHICH SUITS THEM AND LETS THEM BELEIVE THEY ARE COMPETING IN A FULL STATE COMP WHEN IN REALITY ITS ONLY A ONE SIDED DRAW WHICH KEEPS IT THAT WAY...

That is also why it was decided that the extra game should be inter-pool.
THIS STILL DOESNT EXPLAIN WHY THE BRAINS TRUST DIDNT RELEGATE A TRIP HEADER TO A TEAM FROM POE OR POC THAT ARE ALREADY MAKING THE ONE TRIP NORTH THEY CAN AFFORD WHY NOT MAKE IT A BIG ONE? WHY MAKE POD PLAY EACH OTHER THRICE WHEN YOU CAN EVEN THE DRAW OUT BETWEEN THE POOLS MAKING TEAMS PLAY TRIP HEADERS AGAINST OTHER POOLS AND HENCE EVENING OUT THE DRAW???

I am sure that any of the teams in pool c would be happy to trade places with you if you would be prepared to subsidize the extra travel costs. No sarcasm intended.
NOW IF THATS NOT SARCASTIC THEN YOUR REALLY STUPID.. WHY WOULD A POOL C TEAM SWITCH A CLOSE GAME OR CERTAIN WIN FOR A CERTAIN BEATING SIMPLY BECAUSE ITS A FREE TRIP???

And before you suggest that the teams who can't afford it shouldn't be in the league, just remember back a few years when the number of teams who could afford it was down to 5 (and no, your club wasn't one of them).
I WOULD NEVER SUGGEST TEAMS SHOULDN'T BE IN THE LEAGUE DUE TO FINANCIAL REASONS AS WE KNOW THAT NEITHER OF OUR CLUBS WERE FINANCIALLY VIABLE A FEW YRS AGO WHAT IM SUGGESTING IS THAT QBL BOARD GROW SOME BALLS AN GIVE US AN OPTION WHICH ACTUALLY TAKES SOME BRAIN MATTER TO FIGURE OUT AN IS NOT AN EASY OPTION OUT FOR THE SEQ TEAMS..

YES IM BITCHING BECAUSE ITS MY TEAM THATS GETTING FUKT OVER BUT THATS MY PREROGATIVE AN ITS THE TRUTH WHOEVER DID THIS DRAW HAS THEIR HEAD UP THEIR AR$E...

[Last word]

All I will say is that you guys have the management you deserve. People like Bruce Palmer tried to make a stand but everyone with vested interest took the " I am alright" stance. Go back and sleep in your mess.

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some action on the qbl website... says the draw will be released soon, hope they fix it hey nagas!

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I don't know what all the fuss is about with the northern triple header!!
Give it a nice name like "The Sunshine Roadtrip". That's what they used to call it when you did Cairns, Townsville and Burdekin. Don't think too many teams even won 2 of 3 in the day. Bit like now when they go north they come back 2 and 0. So what's it matter if it's 3 and 0 and saves the club some dollars. Deal with it! Aim to win the first game and hope for a second!
Stu

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you sure you were on the right webpage Crack :) i wouldn't hold my breath waiting for them to change the draw, as long as SEQ holds the draw four cards they dont need to change anything...

thanks Stu but what was the Draw like when you were playing did you play a proper full state league or was it a crap pool system like it is now?

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man nagas, do you have a job at all? all i can say it quit crying or don't play, it is no one elses fault where you play it just so happens your in that pool, you dont see nash or melo crying when they have to face the lakers. just suck it up and play through it, i would love the 3 game swing, i think it is good, i am glad they brought it back, quit ya bitching, there will be teams that will have to play wiz or caps more than the rest, but you are the only one crying. so for once use your 2cents mate.

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haha yeah douchebag cos there's no possible way someone with a job can post regularly on BD...

well if i was playing NBA i wouldn't be bitching either but besides whats the point of a forum if you cant b!tch??? i'm just saying what other people and i are thinking just so happens i sit in an office and have time to post and couldn't give a sh!t if you like it or not...

maybe you missed the point there are other options this is just took the least thought and to be honest i wouldn't mind playing Wiz and Caps more if i had the choice...

i'll end with seeing as this forum goes quiet in the offseason at least i'm generating a little bit of conversation, so i guess the answer for you is you dont have to read it if you dont want to but i'm just going to keep posting my 2 cents regardless..

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on a lighter note..

The rebounding Machine Mcdade re-signed with Rockets for next season so only 4 more spots to fill...

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on a lighter note..

The rebounding Machine Mcdade re-signed with Rockets for next season so only 4 more spots to fill...

heard a rumour this morning that bundy have scured the signature of matthew robert hanson for season 2010.

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heard a rumour this morning that bundy have scured the signature of matthew robert hanson for season 2010.

haha

I heard he signed with Mt Gambier last week but who knows.....

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Word around BBI is that they have replaced Darren Austin with V-Dogg to coach the women. Does not make sence to me at all replacing a national championship winning coach with someone who has never coached women before. I know the Brissy girls didn't do to well last year but they are never going to move forward when they change coach every year! Good luck with your 1 year V-Dogg before you get the flick too

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Twmba's floor isn't that bad yeah it has a rise or two and that dead spot where you bounce it and the ball doesn't come back but most courts have them... off the top of my head i know Rocky does and i think Ippy, BBI an GC have similiar problems...

it's the ice skating on the way to the dressing rooms that worries me about Neers home court those tiles when we played there were a great warm up area for figure ice skating comps...

the other thing i dont understand is how the rivalry is over now they have moved stadiums??? although i'm geographically challenged surely the papers and the news coverage would be the same if not still close to similar for both teams...

Is it true that the Mount me men had 3 ppl go for the top job and it was given to the old coach Torbin. If so i was to that Luke P went for the job to and did not get it. How the hell does a Qld State coach get over looked. Well atleast we all know what Off and def we have to play.lol

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Basketballer heads back to Rocky (http://www.themorningbulletin.com.au/story/2009/11/26/big-man-heads-back-to-rocky/)

THE last time Ryan McDade donned a Rockhampton Stadium Nightclub Rockets singlet, he inspired the team to state and national championship success.

Rockhampton Basketball yesterday announced its first major signing for next year’s QBL, with American big man McDade returning to Hegvold Stadium in 2010.

McDade is the first piece of the Rockets coach Neal Tweedy’s recruitment puzzle as he plots a revenge mission after this year’s grand final loss to arch-rivals Cairns.

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so Hanson has signed with Bundy nice work by the new coach now he just needs another 3 or 4 guys...

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Had a good laugh listening to Mike McDaniel on Stav's B105 Gotcha Call this morning. He didn't really get stung, but still a good chuckle.

http://www.b105.com.au/shows/labratcamillaandstav

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any truth to the rumour that jason cameron has applied for the bendigo coaching job now that wayne larkins has quit ?

would leave sw in a huge hole.

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Is it true that the Mount me men had 3 ppl go for the top job and it was given to the old coach Torbin. If so i was to that Luke P went for the job to and did not get it. How the hell does a Qld State coach get over looked. Well atleast we all know what Off and def we have to play.lol

Who is the Qld. state coach that was overlooked?

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So where is Matthew Hanson headed, Bundaberg or Mount Gambier...

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Meteors shoot for stars (http://www.dailymercury.com.au/story/2009/11/27/meteors-shoot-for-stars/)

THINGS are looking up for the Mackay Meteors after inspirational captain John Fitzgerald confirmed yesterday he will be part of the team’s challenge in 2010.

“This year we’re going to have pretty much the same core group of players so it’s time we took it to the next level.”

Fitzgerald said while the McDonald’s Meteors were talking to a number of possible recruits, the team would retain its local focus with players like Sam Bartolo and Brad Rasmussen.

Fitzgerald will join the Gold Coast Blades NBL team next week for some training sessions before leaving for Sweden and his marriage on January 6 to Jill Lirbank, his partner for the past five years.

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gold coast blades hey??

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Who is the Qld. state coach that was overlooked?

There was no Qld State Coach overlooked, some incorrect info there.

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gold coast blades hey??

yeah, their hockey team :D

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posted elsewhere


Costs for NSW SBL are available - $1460 plus $410 per team (i.e. $1870 for one team [men or womens'], $2280 for two), plus $300 per team for referees' travel - penalty fee of an additional $600 per team that does not have a sufficiently qualified referee nominated.

eg. Newcastle nominate 2 SBL teams and 2 Youth League teams, supplying 4 referees to the panel.

SBL = $1460 + $410 + $410 + $300 + $300 = $2880
YL = $1460 + $410 + $410 + $300 + $300 = $2880



so why does it cost $10,000 to enter the qld sbl ? and this is before travel costs.

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posted elsewhere



so why does it cost $10,000 to enter the qld sbl ? and this is before travel costs.

Would you want to play in their comp??
Junior base would be my guess. I know I looked at the Cronulla ABA teams books on their website a couple of years back and could not believe the income from the junior base. Theirs was nearly as much as SD's.

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posted elsewhere



so why does it cost $10,000 to enter the qld sbl ? and this is before travel costs.

The sbl in NSW isnt the equivalent to the QBL. SBL is the level under the waratah league which is the equivalent of the QBL. SBL is also devided into regions north, south etc. so the cost of travel is alot less

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The sbl in NSW isnt the equivalent to the QBL. SBL is the level under the waratah league which is the equivalent of the QBL. SBL is also devided into regions north, south etc. so the cost of travel is alot less

The SBL is like a bush league with some of the smaller, less powerful Sydney associations making up the numbers. Nowhere near the standard of the Waratah League.

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The SBL is like a bush league with some of the smaller, less powerful Sydney associations making up the numbers. Nowhere near the standard of the Waratah League.

There are also teams in the north. Tamworth, Coffs Harbour, Port Macquarie etc.

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yes but the cost for entering the waratah league is closer to the nsw league than the qld sbl. and like i said, before travel.

still not sure why it costs $10,000 to enter the sbl. if the costs was brought down to $3,000 then the extra $7,000 could be used for travel in a full state h/a.

where does the 14*$10,000 = $140,000 go ?

that seems like a hell of a lot of money for 6 month administration. remember each team is then responsible for their own travel, accomodation, refs fees, game night, etc on top of that.

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Part of the QBL fee goes toward Equalisation of Finals costs. All teams pay an equal share to fly teams and Refs to Semi/Grand Final Weekend. There is a Medals/Banners cost as well. It's all in the QBL budget that is given to tems. There is a amssive admin cost in there too, the biggest part of the budget. That is where the problem really lies, but noone ever brings it up in the meetings.

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So where is Matthew Hanson headed, Bundaberg or Mount Gambier...

bundaberg - good to see a loyal american

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just heard on the abc news that the taipans are in financial trouble again. they will see out the season due to a council guarantee but unless something happens between now and then this could be their last year.

this opens up the old debate about where they will play next year, qbl, seabl, underpinning league ?

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just heard on the abc news that the taipans are in financial trouble again. they will see out the season due to a council guarantee but unless something happens between now and then this could be their last year.

this opens up the old debate about where they will play next year, qbl, seabl, underpinning league ?

Apparently this was taken from a leaked Council document and not entirely true.
Response to this item by Taipans management is in today's Cairns Post as well as nbl.com.
I would believe Denis Donaghy over councillors any day.

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Part of the QBL fee goes toward Equalisation of Finals costs. All teams pay an equal share to fly teams and Refs to Semi/Grand Final Weekend. There is a Medals/Banners cost as well. It's all in the QBL budget that is given to tems. There is a amssive admin cost in there too, the biggest part of the budget. That is where the problem really lies, but noone ever brings it up in the meetings.

I dont see how that equals $140 000?

Simply because Admin doesn't seem to do enough to deserve being the biggest part of budget, the full time staff cant even keep the website up to date or work out a decent draw.

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bundaberg - good to see a loyal american

he wont be the only american returning to the same team this year, McDade and Esparza also coming back.

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http://www.news-mail.com.au/favicon.ico Bundaberg Bulls coach defies odds (http://www.news-mail.com.au/story/2009/12/01/look-whos-back/)

THE season has not even begun and Bundaberg Radiology Bulls coach Adam Curran is defying his critics.

When Curran, a 24-year-old former Bundaberg junior with no senior coaching experience, was hired this off-season his ability to draw big-name players was questioned.

But this week’s announcement that Matt Hanson would be coming back to Bundaberg helped quash those fears.

It was a lean two years for Bundaberg under Michael Van Dongen, who failed to lead Bundaberg into the post-season.

But unearthing Hanson was one Van Dongen’s biggest achievements.

Playing in a lacklustre squad that won only three games, Hanson was one of the most consistent performers in the Queensland Basketball League.

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so who got the townsville coaching jobs ?


Applications will close on Wednesday 12th November 2009 and the successful applicant will be appointed no later than Wednesday 26th November.

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"But this week’s announcement that Matt Hanson would be coming back to Bundaberg helped quash those fears.

It was a lean two years for Bundaberg under Michael Van Dongen, who failed to lead Bundaberg into the post-season."


OUCH Vdog copping a caning from his old teams local paper, i know the media has to talk it up but i think maybe they should of waited on some other signings before roasting him as Hanson and some locals aint goin to get you into the post season either but good luck to Adam it's only early days and he has signed a biggie...


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"where does the 14*$10,000 = $140,000 go ?

that seems like a hell of a lot of money for 6 month administration. "

medals aren't much i saw our gals pendants didnt spend too much of the 140 g there...
travel costs 10 g per team so there's 60-70g (2 teams don't have to travel)
miscellaneous 20g for refs, beers and the mens trophy..
so we're left with 50g for 6 mths admin nice work if you can get it

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From what I can gather, the only 2 people up for either the men's or women's job are Mark Wrobel and John O'Farrell. Whichever one coaches the men, I think the other will coach the women. Real lack of interest in the job

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From what I can gather, the only 2 people up for either the men's or women's job are Mark Wrobel and John O'Farrell. Whichever one coaches the men, I think the other will coach the women. Real lack of interest in the job

Well theyd be crazy not to give wrobel his girls job back. Did a really good job with an "inexperienced" townsville squad. Got coach of the year, and only just lost a semi on the home court.

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Well theyd be crazy not to give wrobel his girls job back. Did a really good job with an "inexperienced" townsville squad. Got coach of the year, and only just lost a semi on the home court.

Told by a Heat member Wrobel won the men's coaching job so will be interesting to see if O'Farrell takes the women's spot or remains an assistant.

Who could take the women's role...

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Heat, Flames name new coaches (http://www.townsvillebulletin.com.au/article/2009/12/04/98271_sport.html)

TOWNSVILLE Heat and Flames have announced Mark Wrobel and John O'Farrell as their respective new coaches for the 2010 QBL season.

''I wouldn't try and compare the two teams. We need to put some things in place and possibly change some of the things we've done in the past.

Wrobel would not speculate on who he would be chasing for the NBL side but hoped both Cedar brothers Michael and Chris would return.

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http://www.news-mail.com.au/favicon.ico Former Bundy Bulls star excited (http://www.news-mail.com.au/story/2009/12/08/leaps-and-bounds/)

IT takes a lot to get Bundaberg Celtics founder Anthony Parry excited.

But the laid-back former Bundaberg Bulls star cannot hide his excitement at the upcoming season for Bundaberg basketball.

Not only has Bundaberg Celtics affiliated with Bundaberg Basketball for the first time since its inception but Parry has been able to secure the services of a man with more than 20 years experience to help build basketball in the region.

The development of basketball is about to get a boost in the region with veteran administrator and coach Doug Stuart announcing his intention to come to the region.

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