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A real underated team in the SC is logan.
they will put it to brisbane and noosa come regular season time
despite there dissapointing run in grading.
There captain #5(unsure of his name) is one of the most mature players i have seen for his age.
He can put up numbers without trying and passes better than all the pgs i saw while rebounding at will averaging at least 10 a game.
A great leader.
he will lead them to the semi finals at least.
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22-10-09, 23:52
A real underated team in the SC is logan.
they will put it to brisbane and noosa come regular season time
despite there dissapointing run in grading.
There captain #5(unsure of his name) is one of the most mature players i have seen for his age.
He can put up numbers without trying and passes better than all the pgs i saw while rebounding at will averaging at least 10 a game.
A great leader.
he will lead them to the semi finals at least.
kyle ferguson is his name.
this year will be very tight
in this order i reckon:
Toowoomba
Sw
Redlands
Noosa/bbi/Gc breakers
Logan
Cab
Logan are ok but arent there fully as a team they have an ok fwrd and guard but thats it they barely one the elmination round.
T Bar to take it i rekon as of there easy victory over sw which is an excelent team of there own great guards george d, keenen, george w, number 4 not sure of his name
Redlands could be a contender another team with guards farley and dylan.
Noosa have a solid team good team work, good finishers need to improve if they want to contend though.
Another team bbi have alot of potential with the bottom age bomb shells nick d, steve, henry all contributing well steve is an excellent shooter cannot be left open. Nick is great at finishing and a good decision maker henry c is doing great posting up getting the boards solid big
I also put gc breakers in there because i saw what they were capable of in there last game thrashing ns 2. prob unluky to lose to redlands aswell. again good guards kian and snowy have been carrying the team along with there 2 bigs good at the boards need abit of work offensively though. Cabs number 5, ben stower and 24 have been putting on a show alot of intense play by there team they will improve alot as the season goes on excited to see how they go and if they can prove me wrong by not coming last they very much could be the dark horses of the competition.
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23-10-09, 00:38
kyle ferguson is his name.
this year will be very tight
in this order i reckon:
Toowoomba
Sw
Redlands
Noosa/bbi/Gc breakers
Logan
Cab
Logan are ok but arent there fully as a team they have an ok fwrd and guard but thats it they barely one the elmination round.
T Bar to take it i rekon as of there easy victory over sw which is an excelent team of there own great guards george d, keenen, george w, number 4 not sure of his name
Redlands could be a contender another team with guards farley and dylan.
Noosa have a solid team good team work, good finishers need to improve if they want to contend though.
Another team bbi have alot of potential with the bottom age bomb shells nick d, steve, henry all contributing well steve is an excellent shooter cannot be left open. Nick is great at finishing and a good decision maker henry c is doing great posting up getting the boards solid big
I also put gc breakers in there because i saw what they were capable of in there last game thrashing ns 2. prob unluky to lose to redlands aswell. again good guards kian and snowy have been carrying the team along with there 2 bigs good at the boards need abit of work offensively though. Cabs number 5, ben stower and 24 have been putting on a show alot of intense play by there team they will improve alot as the season goes on excited to see how they go and if they can prove me wrong by not coming last they very much could be the dark horses of the competition.
BBI to clean up. That the silver side did not make PL is a great disappointment. None of the players you mentioned from that side will be in the top 3 contributors. You know, there are OTHER players who come along after under 12s, right?
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23-10-09, 07:44
A real underated team in the SC is logan.
they will put it to brisbane and noosa come regular season time
despite there dissapointing run in grading.
There captain #5(unsure of his name) is one of the most mature players i have seen for his age.
He can put up numbers without trying and passes better than all the pgs i saw while rebounding at will averaging at least 10 a game.
A great leader.
he will lead them to the semi finals at least.
Logan got strengths in players, ie Rodger, Caleb and #5 (who isn't a pg and will never be a pg)...but biggest prob in this team is the coach who basically has no idea how to coach at this level. If the combo of players had been played correctly thru the grading Logan wouldn't have done so poorly at grading, but the coach subs constantly thru the game. Never having the best 5 players on the court for longer than 2 minutes. This team was down and out in the xover against RB, until he left strongest 5 on the court then and only then did the team come thru with the 2 pt win, sorry 4 pt win after the RB players tried to decapitate Logan players head.
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23-10-09, 08:14
BBI to clean up. That the silver side did not make PL is a great disappointment. None of the players you mentioned from that side will be in the top 3 contributors. You know, there are OTHER players who come along after under 12s, right?
Go on tell us how good your son is and why you think he should have been mentioned instead of the other 3.
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23-10-09, 11:30
Go on tell us how good your son is and why you think he should have been mentioned instead of the other 3.
I have no children and no relatives playing junior basketball. I find your insinuations offensive.
What I have noticed over the years is that the same players for each age get mentioned again and again, all the way through from under 12 to under 18 and often beyond, based on nothing more than who was in the "in" club in under 12s and the one or possibly two players who are allowed to join along the way. Sure, some of them are superstars all the way through. But not all of them. Perhaps you are just repeating what others have said, but this u18 sides are a triumph of new and better thinking (well done to Kirren and Dale) and it is a shame to see the same old "the cool boys from under 12 will always be cool" attitude.
No doubt, the players you mentioned are very good players and deserve their spots, but there are seven or eight other players who are at least as good and some are better. It seems to me that there are few who would give them their due... again, based on the "in" club phenomenon.
I dont think there is much between the top 5 teams and if any of them have a 'bad' qtr it will lose them the game for sure. I totally agree with someone elses comment that it will be the teams that develop and improve throughout the season that will be there at the end of the season. I predict it will be the teams that can win 60% + of their away games and all of their home games in the final.
But what a season of travelling everyone has. Noosa to Toowoomba to Gold Coast and a few in between. Every 2nd weekend we are in for a road trip and I LOVE ROAD TRIPS!!!!!!
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23-10-09, 22:23
BBI to clean up. That the silver side did not make PL is a great disappointment. None of the players you mentioned from that side will be in the top 3 contributors. You know, there are OTHER players who come along after under 12s, right?
Your kidding me, since when was Nick a standout in 12's?
His rise to the top of his age group started in 16's
Also steve and Henry not superstars in 12's either
All three kids will do well and will be a big part of BBI's success
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24-10-09, 00:44
I have no children and no relatives playing junior basketball. I find your insinuations offensive.
What I have noticed over the years is that the same players for each age get mentioned again and again, all the way through from under 12 to under 18 and often beyond, based on nothing more than who was in the "in" club in under 12s and the one or possibly two players who are allowed to join along the way. Sure, some of them are superstars all the way through. But not all of them. Perhaps you are just repeating what others have said, but this u18 sides are a triumph of new and better thinking (well done to Kirren and Dale) and it is a shame to see the same old "the cool boys from under 12 will always be cool" attitude.
No doubt, the players you mentioned are very good players and deserve their spots, but there are seven or eight other players who are at least as good and some are better. It seems to me that there are few who would give them their due... again, based on the "in" club phenomenon.
Sorry don't believe you, you have some interest in this group. You inferred Henry C and Nick were outstanding in U 12's, that tells me you have no idea. While HC was a big lad he was far from a superstar, Dicko wasn't even on the charts at U 12's. Stevie has always been a skilful player but never the standout guard.
No idea what your point was with the original statement or with this thing above? You do realise that Kirron and Dale are not the coaches of the Silver team? Give some credit for the "new and better thinking" to Richo the actual coach of this Silver side, he did have some input.
I never mentioned any players at all. I think the silver team will do just fine, with all players contributing. I have no idea why you chose to denigrate the 3 boys mentioned with your earlier post, that was offensive IMO.
The Doctor
24-10-09, 07:42
Logan got strengths in players, ie Rodger, Caleb and #5 (who isn't a pg and will never be a pg)...but biggest prob in this team is the coach who basically has no idea how to coach at this level. If the combo of players had been played correctly thru the grading Logan wouldn't have done so poorly at grading, but the coach subs constantly thru the game. Never having the best 5 players on the court for longer than 2 minutes. This team was down and out in the xover against RB, until he left strongest 5 on the court then and only then did the team come thru with the 2 pt win, sorry 4 pt win after the RB players tried to decapitate Logan players head.
True Logan would do much better if the coach coached to win and not appease everybody.There's no future in that.
i agree with the comments made about the coach regarding the substitution methods however i have heard from players and parents he is quite the coach. This alone stil doesnt make up for the terriblr substitutions .
He takes out Kyle Rodger and Calleb far to much in important situations. 2 of these 3 should be on the court at all times within reason.
I also think that brisbane is farrr to over rated if i had to pick a winner based on grading it would be noosa. Theyre pg 4 is a great player and makes the right decisions. Im still not convinced about SW Keenen has a huge head and ego and its followed closely by Christians. Syd needs to use Bruce and George D more extensivley. Acctually come to think of it how bout a swap of coaches Logans for Sid hahah.
I also heard a rumour that they will be picking an "all team" for the leaue naming the top players for each posotion. a greta idea i think
The only players i could say will bo deffinatley on the team will be
5 for logan and 4 for noosa.
dunno y everyone is hating on this guy form logan for trying to be a pg??
he by far led the grading competition in almost all catergories ???
i agree with the comments made about the coach regarding the substitution methods however i have heard from players and parents he is quite the coach. This alone stil doesnt make up for the terriblr substitutions .
He takes out Kyle Rodger and Calleb far to much in important situations. 2 of these 3 should be on the court at all times within reason.
I also think that brisbane is farrr to over rated if i had to pick a winner based on grading it would be noosa. Theyre pg 4 is a great player and makes the right decisions. Im still not convinced about SW Keenen has a huge head and ego and its followed closely by Christians. Syd needs to use Bruce and George D more extensivley. Acctually come to think of it how bout a swap of coaches Logans for Sid hahah.
I also heard a rumour that they will be picking an "all team" for the leaue naming the top players for each posotion. a greta idea i think
The only players i could say will bo deffinatley on the team will be
5 for logan and 4 for noosa.
dunno y everyone is hating on this guy form logan for trying to be a pg??
he by far led the grading competition in almost all catergories ???
Where did you get your stats from????? Like to see them if I can or could you post them for us all to review??????????
I'll say one thing Redlands wont be relying on 1 or 2 players to score for them, it is a team!!!!!!!! A real team where the only thing that counts is that the 'team' score points and defense is everyone responsibility with in the team. And if that means each game sees a different contributer than I reacon thats harder to coach against than a team with 3/4 'superstars'.
Sry I am just sick of all the BS about whos the better players and who sux and all that crap! Get over your egos and just play ball.
Enough of the negative crap already!!!!!!!!!!!!
Lets concentrate on the games and celebrate the positives about our game!
Good luck to you all and I hope we all can enjoy the season...
p.s Good luck with the arm Mack (Logan 2) see you soon.......
So, anyone want to slip me a copy of the draft draw? More interested in CC than SC for the moment, but if I knew who the SC matchups were for the first couple weeks I might provide some comedy value tipping the winners and commenting from the peanut gallery.
Kind of feeling out of the loop reading reading on Facebook other people I know have seen the draw :(
True Logan would do much better if the coach coached to win and not appease everybody.There's no future in that.
He's coaching mostly bottom-age kids (could be wrong there) in SC and has been at the association quite a while. I expect said coach is in it to develop across the season and make some noise come finals and Classics.
Hopefully they get Mac and #25 back in the short term, those two make a bit of a difference, but from what I saw in preseason if they can control the tempo and concentrate for 40 minutes then Logan 2 will be ok.
Where did you get your stats from????? Like to see them if I can or could you post them for us all to review??????????
I'll say one thing Redlands wont be relying on 1 or 2 players to score for them, it is a team!!!!!!!! A real team where the only thing that counts is that the 'team' score points and defense is everyone responsibility with in the team. And if that means each game sees a different contributer than I reacon thats harder to coach against than a team with 3/4 'superstars'.
Sry I am just sick of all the BS about whos the better players and who sux and all that crap! Get over your egos and just play ball.
Enough of the negative crap already!!!!!!!!!!!!
Lets concentrate on the games and celebrate the positives about our game!
Good luck to you all and I hope we all can enjoy the season...
p.s Good luck with the arm Mack (Logan 2) see you soon.......
Your obviously a supporter of redlands so i dont know if you saw any of logans games i only saw one on the 1st day against northside and the runaway bay and gold coast game and that number 5 played extremely well although he does try a bit hrad to be a guard and should learn to play his position. I Agree with the fact that we should be posotive and not negative about players as these are just kids. So im just pointing out the stand out players that i have seen. Logan doesnt just rely on their captain they also have roger and calleb who are both good players in thier own rights and mac made the game winning block and rebound against bay. I would tip logan to beat your beloved redlands, 1 because they also have great team work and 2 redlands'biggrst weakness is there inside game and mac and kyle will eat that up however noosa sw and toowoomba will propbs beat em both so i see a big yet friendly rivalry between these two for 4th spot as i know they are all good mates.
He's coaching mostly bottom-age kids (could be wrong there) in SC and has been at the association quite a while. I expect said coach is in it to develop across the season and make some noise come finals and Classics.
Hopefully they get Mac and #25 back in the short term, those two make a bit of a difference, but from what I saw in preseason if they can control the tempo and concentrate for 40 minutes then Logan 2 will be ok.
sorry, who is 25 for logan i havent seen him play before?
a friend of mine in the team said that mac has just hurt his finger and will be back soon, lucky for them beacuse he is a valuble player teaming up in the front court with 5.
Go noosa!!
sorry, who is 25 for logan i havent seen him play before?
a friend of mine in the team said that mac has just hurt his finger and will be back soon, lucky for them beacuse he is a valuble player teaming up in the front court with 5.
Go noosa!!
Yeah I guess I could be off with the jersey numbers, I was referring to the number the kid wore when we scrimmaged them preseason. I have his name on the scoresheet but don't feel comfortable identifying other people's kids by name on here. The guy I am referring to is probably a point or two guard, blond hair (not David, the other one with blonde hair). Had his arm in a sling at Grading. Anyway, sorry for the derail, but they seemed like a decent bunch so I would like to see Logan do well.
Yeah I guess I could be off with the jersey numbers, I was referring to the number the kid wore when we scrimmaged them preseason. I have his name on the scoresheet but don't feel comfortable identifying other people's kids by name on here. The guy I am referring to is probably a point or two guard, blond hair (not David, the other one with blonde hair). Had his arm in a sling at Grading. Anyway, sorry for the derail, but they seemed like a decent bunch so I would like to see Logan do well.
oh yes i know who you are talking about
chris or corey i think??
yea they will do well i think battle redlands 1 and noosa for the 4th spot
behind SW BRIS and toowoomba.
you wouldnt happen to have any knowledge of 5
(kyle) i think it is would you?? or the morris boy??
and do you know when chris will be back?
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26-10-09, 17:44
sorry, who is 25 for logan i havent seen him play before?
a friend of mine in the team said that mac has just hurt his finger and will be back soon, lucky for them beacuse he is a valuble player teaming up in the front court with 5.
Go noosa!!
So your a noosa fan?
So your a noosa fan?
you could say so yea
im more of a basketball fan.
haha
im rooting for redlands noosa and logan this year in reverse order
..
Do you have any info on 5 for logan and the morris boy
and 4 for noosa??
preping ma team for them when we play them
not rodger but the other 2 have pretty much come from no where??
kyle ferguson is his name.
this year will be very tight
in this order i reckon:
Toowoomba
Sw
Redlands
Noosa/bbi/Gc breakers
Logan
Cab
Logan are ok but arent there fully as a team they have an ok fwrd and guard but thats it they barely one the elmination round.
T Bar to take it i rekon as of there easy victory over sw which is an excelent team of there own great guards george d, keenen, george w, number 4 not sure of his name
Redlands could be a contender another team with guards farley and dylan.
Noosa have a solid team good team work, good finishers need to improve if they want to contend though.
Another team bbi have alot of potential with the bottom age bomb shells nick d, steve, henry all contributing well steve is an excellent shooter cannot be left open. Nick is great at finishing and a good decision maker henry c is doing great posting up getting the boards solid big
I also put gc breakers in there because i saw what they were capable of in there last game thrashing ns 2. prob unluky to lose to redlands aswell. again good guards kian and snowy have been carrying the team along with there 2 bigs good at the boards need abit of work offensively though. Cabs number 5, ben stower and 24 have been putting on a show alot of intense play by there team they will improve alot as the season goes on excited to see how they go and if they can prove me wrong by not coming last they very much could be the dark horses of the competition.
ive been askin everyon and still nothingi need to prep my bois for logan i think they wil do well.... wat is the deal with this fergusen kid??
is he any good??
i thought that morris and calleb were theyre go to guys??
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26-10-09, 18:04
you could say so yea
im more of a basketball fan.
haha
im rooting for redlands noosa and logan this year in reverse order
..
Do you have any info on 5 for logan and the morris boy
and 4 for noosa??
preping ma team for them when we play them
not rodger but the other 2 have pretty much come from no where??
Lol well im a noosa fan, so i aint going to give away anything about them. Am very proud of the fact that they went well at grading and have been listed by some as early contenders. Sounds like its going to be a great comp and i look forward to reading about it all more on this site.
Good Luck
NC.
Lol well im a noosa fan, so i aint going to give away anything about them. Am very proud of the fact that they went well at grading and have been listed by some as early contenders. Sounds like its going to be a great comp and i look forward to reading about it all more on this site.
Good Luck
NC.
haha ok sounds fair
do you know if this rumour of selcting an "all team"
at the end of the season consisting of the best players is ture?
if so who are your predictions?
If I were in SC I would beware the two teams who made it from Pool C - Toowoomba and SWM. SWM already solid inside, athough they are inexperienced sounds like their bigs are willing to learn. Sleeping giant of a backcourt, if there is enough ball to go around they will be decent inside-outside. Need to box out the defensive boards, but they have the horses and a coach who has been there and won Classics with an underrated side.
Toowoomba looked solid across the board and dropped eight 3s when we played them in Grading. Their decision-making was solid for the most part and they looked like they had a solid all-round team of durable players. Dunno what they are like in a slow-down halfcourt trench warfare type game, but they seem happy to get out and shoot the ball in the open court. Would be interesting to see Noosa vs Toowoomba as from the little I saw of both they look like they prefer a similar style of play.
Has anyone mentioned Gold Coast?
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26-10-09, 19:41
If I were in SC I would beware the two teams who made it from Pool C - Toowoomba and SWM. SWM already solid inside, athough they are inexperienced sounds like their bigs are willing to learn. Sleeping giant of a backcourt, if there is enough ball to go around they will be decent inside-outside. Need to box out the defensive boards, but they have the horses and a coach who has been there and won Classics with an underrated side.
Toowoomba looked solid across the board and dropped eight 3s when we played them in Grading. Their decision-making was solid for the most part and they looked like they had a solid all-round team of durable players. Dunno what they are like in a slow-down halfcourt trench warfare type game, but they seem happy to get out and shoot the ball in the open court. Would be interesting to see Noosa vs Toowoomba as from the little I saw of both they look like they prefer a similar style of play.
Has anyone mentioned Gold Coast?
Gold coast are a fun team to watch play so much intensity
4 dunkers on the team! suprised to see kian dunking already.
GL all SC teams big weekend ahead
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26-10-09, 20:57
His name is Jack Hunt, he's a PG, and he's good.
That's all I'm saying...
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26-10-09, 21:41
Sorry don't believe you, you have some interest in this group. You inferred Henry C and Nick were outstanding in U 12's, that tells me you have no idea. While HC was a big lad he was far from a superstar, Dicko wasn't even on the charts at U 12's. Stevie has always been a skilful player but never the standout guard.
No idea what your point was with the original statement or with this thing above? You do realise that Kirron and Dale are not the coaches of the Silver team? Give some credit for the "new and better thinking" to Richo the actual coach of this Silver side, he did have some input.
I never mentioned any players at all. I think the silver team will do just fine, with all players contributing. I have no idea why you chose to denigrate the 3 boys mentioned with your earlier post, that was offensive IMO.
Typical. You're not interested in listening to any one's opinion but your own and if someone disagree's with you, you attack their motives.
Your whole reply is a liturgy of misrepresentations, bad assumptions and pointless pedantry, so there's no real point in continuing the conversation except to point out that
1) No, I really have no personal involvement and
2) Suggesting that a player is not the very best and simply "very good and deserving of a spot" is not denigrating them.
Your obviously a supporter of redlands so i dont know if you saw any of logans games i only saw one on the 1st day against northside and the runaway bay and gold coast game and that number 5 played extremely well although he does try a bit hrad to be a guard and should learn to play his position. I Agree with the fact that we should be posotive and not negative about players as these are just kids. So im just pointing out the stand out players that i have seen. Logan doesnt just rely on their captain they also have roger and calleb who are both good players in thier own rights and mac made the game winning block and rebound against bay. I would tip logan to beat your beloved redlands, 1 because they also have great team work and 2 redlands'biggrst weakness is there inside game and mac and kyle will eat that up however noosa sw and toowoomba will propbs beat em both so i see a big yet friendly rivalry between these two for 4th spot as i know they are all good mates.
You show good intuition, I am a BIG fan of all Redlands teams. It must have something to do with the fact I coach club there, lol. I also coach club at Logan too, and I really like their players and their coach too. All good people. But over all I am a fan of the game and will enjoy watching all teams go hammer and tonge throughout the season. It's going to be a hell of a close season with points % determining it all at the end in my opinion. Actually can't wait for classics it should be a awsome tourny next year in div 2 adding in Townsville, Cairns and I would think Rocky.
Gold coast are a fun team to watch play so much intensity
4 dunkers on the team! suprised to see kian dunking already.
GL all SC teams big weekend ahead
GC are a solid team, Kian has made alot of progress, although he is there onl real threat inside but he is a big one. He is able to fraw defenses out and shoot the j but quick enough to get to the cup from the perimeter. theyre pg is also solid strong and quick which seems to be the general flow of the team. Their weakness id say is there smarts. They make poor decisions and their press looks fairly weak. but overall more posotives than negatives, they will also fight for the top 4.
Toowoomba in my opinion are more exciting to watch. They have terrfific shooters and whats more scary is theyre best shooter (unsure of name or number, big blonde fellow with high socks) can duck easily and drives with a big frame. Their weakness is probs their defense they foul alot and and sometimes rely on theor outside shot to much therefore if you can box out and rebound well toowoomba should be on your Ws list.
P.s is this "all team" rumour true??
kyle ferguson is his name.
this year will be very tight
in this order i reckon:
Toowoomba
Sw
Redlands
Noosa/bbi/Gc breakers
Logan
Cab
Logan are ok but arent there fully as a team they have an ok fwrd and guard but thats it they barely one the elmination round.
T Bar to take it i rekon as of there easy victory over sw which is an excelent team of there own great guards george d, keenen, george w, number 4 not sure of his name
Redlands could be a contender another team with guards farley and dylan.
Noosa have a solid team good team work, good finishers need to improve if they want to contend though.
Another team bbi have alot of potential with the bottom age bomb shells nick d, steve, henry all contributing well steve is an excellent shooter cannot be left open. Nick is great at finishing and a good decision maker henry c is doing great posting up getting the boards solid big
I also put gc breakers in there because i saw what they were capable of in there last game thrashing ns 2. prob unluky to lose to redlands aswell. again good guards kian and snowy have been carrying the team along with there 2 bigs good at the boards need abit of work offensively though. Cabs number 5, ben stower and 24 have been putting on a show alot of intense play by there team they will improve alot as the season goes on excited to see how they go and if they can prove me wrong by not coming last they very much could be the dark horses of the competition.
is this kid that good??
everyones been telling me about him ??
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27-10-09, 17:01
is this kid that good??
everyones been telling me about him ??
he's top age in div 2 team...does that answer your question!
he's top age in div 2 team...does that answer your question!
not really thats pretty general but thank you
a few of my players said hes good all round??
im trying to get my team ready for logan
because i think we have a real chance against them.
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27-10-09, 19:09
not really thats pretty general but thank you
a few of my players said hes good all round??
im trying to get my team ready for logan
because i think we have a real chance against them.
if anything he is a a hinderance on the court, trying to play pg when he's needed under the basket to rebound and feed the ball out. He is very strong there UNDER the basket but doesn't get back in position. Then he is trying to tell the team what to do when it should be the coach telling the team. If the coach plays his strongest players then your team has your work cut out for you, but your teams height may be the edge you need.
not really thats pretty general but thank you
a few of my players said hes good all round??
im trying to get my team ready for logan
because i think we have a real chance against them.
Call me slow, but, who you coaching?
Any word on the games this weekend?
Whos where and whos going to win?
Round 1 BRING IT ONNNNNNN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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27-10-09, 22:52
Any word on the games this weekend?
Whos where and whos going to win?
Round 1 BRING IT ONNNNNNN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
sw vs gc this sat
thoughts
sw vs gc this sat
thoughts
SW +15pts
wouldnt put money on it though, lol.
Redlands Red @ Noosa - If Redlands can hold on through an initial Noosa surge away without letting Toto fly like that cow in Twister and play patient on both ends of the floor they should be ok and come out the other end with a W.
However if Redlands get in a run and gun with a depleted lineup the house might land on them a la wicked witch of the west. One thing's for sure we're not in Kansas any more as a large chunk of Redlands rep takes the bus for a magical mystery tour away game at Noosa. Rest assured things will come back down to earth when we click the ruby slippers together and play at home in Round 2.
It's late and I cbf thinking of anything witty for the other matchups so this will have to do...
Round 1
First team is home team
SW v GC
Suns v Twmba
Noosa v Redlands
Silver v Logan
Winners
SW + 15
Twmba +30
Silver + 6
wont predict the Noosa v Redlands game sry. I support Redlands so I might be biased, lol.
Whats your thoughts?
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28-10-09, 00:15
Round 1
First team is home team
SW v GC
Suns v Twmba
Noosa v Redlands
Silver v Logan
Winners
SW + 15
Twmba +30
Silver + 6
wont predict the Noosa v Redlands game sry. I support Redlands so I might be biased, lol.
Whats your thoughts?
suns have Northside coach b
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Round 1
First team is home team
SW v GC
Suns v Twmba
Noosa v Redlands
Silver v Logan
Winners
SW if they can keep control of tempo and their emotions and BOX OUT. If GC can take their chances and can convert then this is anyone's especially if played at Klump Rd, which may as well be a neutral venue.
Twmba by a fair margin if they are allowed to run, closer if they have to play half court all the way. No accounting for the officiating though. Caboolture with all their horses on deck can surprise.
Silver should get this one at home with Logan's injuries.
Noosa vs Redlands see above post. If cool heads prevail and players listen to each other and coaches in their timeouts Reds should have the experience here. Run and gun all the way, some lucky calls and home court advantage may see a strong Noosa over the line. Noosa have some guns if allowed to dictate the tempo.
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28-10-09, 08:29
Round 1
First team is home team
SW v GC
Suns v Twmba
Noosa v Redlands
Silver v Logan
Winners
SW + 15
Twmba +30
Silver + 6
wont predict the Noosa v Redlands game sry. I support Redlands so I might be biased, lol.
Whats your thoughts?
SW by 20
Twmba by 30
Noosa by 20
BBI by 10
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28-10-09, 12:22
SW v GC - South West by 15-20 :
South West will feel they were unlucky not to qualify for PL so will be out to send a signal to the rest of SC against a tough GC team.
Suns v Twmba - Toowoomba by 20-25 :
Toowoomba probably should have gone to PL grading & depending on their pool probably would have qualified, I expect them to dominate most games this season - particularly home games.
Noosa v Redlands - Noosa by 10-15 :
I believe that Redlands are missing a number of players due to injuries, so will suffer late in the game. When they're back to full strength & at home you could probably reverse that scoreline.
Silver v Logan - Silver by 15-20 :
Logan is also down due to injury, however Brisbane would win by at least 10 even in Logan had a full squad! Logan will struggle offensively this season, so will need to focus on playing tough D.
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28-10-09, 12:35
SW v GC - South West by 15-20 :
South West will feel they were unlucky not to qualify for PL so will be out to send a signal to the rest of SC against a tough GC team.
Suns v Twmba - Toowoomba by 20-25 :
Toowoomba probably should have gone to PL grading & depending on their pool probably would have qualified, I expect them to dominate most games this season - particularly home games.
Noosa v Redlands - Noosa by 10-15 :
I believe that Redlands are missing a number of players due to injuries, so will suffer late in the game. When they're back to full strength & at home you could probably reverse that scoreline.
Silver v Logan - Silver by 15-20 :
Logan is also down due to injury, however Brisbane would win by at least 10 even in Logan had a full squad! Logan will struggle offensively this season, so will need to focus on playing tough D.
is this the same Logan team that Silver beat at SC Grading by 30pts?
SW v GC - South West by 15-20 :
South West will feel they were unlucky not to qualify for PL so will be out to send a signal to the rest of SC against a tough GC team.
Suns v Twmba - Toowoomba by 20-25 :
Toowoomba probably should have gone to PL grading & depending on their pool probably would have qualified, I expect them to dominate most games this season - particularly home games.
Noosa v Redlands - Noosa by 10-15 :
I believe that Redlands are missing a number of players due to injuries, so will suffer late in the game. When they're back to full strength & at home you could probably reverse that scoreline.
Silver v Logan - Silver by 15-20 :
Logan is also down due to injury, however Brisbane would win by at least 10 even in Logan had a full squad! Logan will struggle offensively this season, so will need to focus on playing tough D.
agreed logan have to many injuries
if theyre lucky they wont loose by more than 10
brisbane are to talented and deep.
look for nick and shultz to put up big numbers.
while logan will only really score inside with kyle valleb and mac.
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28-10-09, 18:57
SW v GC - South West by 15-20 :
South West will feel they were unlucky not to qualify for PL so will be out to send a signal to the rest of SC against a tough GC team.
Suns v Twmba - Toowoomba by 20-25 :
Toowoomba probably should have gone to PL grading & depending on their pool probably would have qualified, I expect them to dominate most games this season - particularly home games.
Noosa v Redlands - Noosa by 10-15 :
I believe that Redlands are missing a number of players due to injuries, so will suffer late in the game. When they're back to full strength & at home you could probably reverse that scoreline.
Silver v Logan - Silver by 15-20 :
Logan is also down due to injury, however Brisbane would win by at least 10 even in Logan had a full squad! Logan will struggle offensively this season, so will need to focus on playing tough D.
I think Silver deffinetly have that game
Noosa should take redlands
Twmba should take Suns by 20, but if they stop Twmba from running they may have a chance Suns number 44 and 24 did well at grading
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29-10-09, 13:44
[QUOTE=Unregistered;21755]I think Silver deffinetly have that game
Noosa should take redlands
Twmba should take Suns by 20, but if they stop Twmba from running they may have a chance Suns number 44 and 24 did well at grad
hmmm, the tall man from twmba, is he as good as everyone makes him out to be.....
[QUOTE=Unregistered;21755]I think Silver deffinetly have that game
Noosa should take redlands
Twmba should take Suns by 20, but if they stop Twmba from running they may have a chance Suns number 44 and 24 did well at grad
hmmm, the tall man from twmba, is he as good as everyone makes him out to be.....
if your reffering to the blonde fellow who wore the hih socks at grading, yes he is. He is more of a dirk kind of player not a terribly solid post game but shoots the ball very well and fils the lanes while finishing even better. Not sure on his defense but deffinately one of the top bigs.
Acctually speaking of bigs there arent to many stand out 4 or 5s this season has anyone seen any bigs they think will will dominate?
The Doctor
29-10-09, 14:50
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if your reffering to the blonde fellow who wore the hih socks at grading, yes he is. He is more of a dirk kind of player not a terribly solid post game but shoots the ball very well and fils the lanes while finishing even better. Not sure on his defense but deffinately one of the top bigs.
Acctually speaking of bigs there arent to many stand out 4 or 5s this season has anyone seen any bigs they think will will dominate?
You will usually find there traditionally isn't many good bigs playing in SC.
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29-10-09, 15:16
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if your reffering to the blonde fellow who wore the hih socks at grading, yes he is. He is more of a dirk kind of player not a terribly solid post game but shoots the ball very well and fils the lanes while finishing even better. Not sure on his defense but deffinately one of the top bigs.
Acctually speaking of bigs there arent to many stand out 4 or 5s this season has anyone seen any bigs they think will will dominate?
So will he drive too the hoop if someone was playing good solid defence, and if so would he be any good at it?
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29-10-09, 15:24
I think Silver deffinetly have that game
Noosa should take redlands
Twmba should take Suns by 20, but if they stop Twmba from running they may have a chance Suns number 44 and 24 did well at grading
I was watching those grading games and if you think that number 44 can play well you must not know much about basketball.
While he plays he looks like he's in pain.
But thats just my thoughts. Let me know if you agree or not.
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29-10-09, 15:35
I was watching those grading games and if you think that number 44 can play well you must not know much about basketball.
While he plays he looks like he's in pain.
But thats just my thoughts. Let me know if you agree or not.
I know, when i was watching i felt sorry for him.
but i guess he likes the sport enough to keep playing. not everyone can be good at it.
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29-10-09, 15:43
I was watching those grading games and if you think that number 44 can play well you must not know much about basketball.
While he plays he looks like he's in pain.
But thats just my thoughts. Let me know if you agree or not.
how does he look like hes in pain?
[QUOTE=Mr review;21783]
So will he drive too the hoop if someone was playing good solid defence, and if so would he be any good at it?
im not 100% sure on that
but from what i have seen he would prefer to shoot
he wont look to pass when he drives which seems to be the
common trend with bigs this year excluding a few (i.e Schultz from briz and Kyle from logan) but if he does get to the ring he can get up and finnish quite strong. His free throws are so so.
overall id put him in the top 5 or so bigs in the league.
others would include????
I was watching those grading games and if you think that number 44 can play well you must not know much about basketball.
While he plays he looks like he's in pain.
But thats just my thoughts. Let me know if you agree or not.
YES oh gosh yes
i was pointing that out at grading.
He isnt that good he just has alot of the ball and alot of PT
but hes not terrible.
suns will be on the bottom of the table i think
fighting with NS and GC to stay out of wooden spoon position
The Doctor
29-10-09, 16:39
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im not 100% sure on that
but from what i have seen he would prefer to shoot
he wont look to pass when he drives which seems to be the
common trend with bigs this year excluding a few (i.e Schultz from briz and Kyle from logan) but if he does get to the ring he can get up and finnish quite strong. His free throws are so so.
overall id put him in the top 5 or so bigs in the league.
others would include????
Schultz can shoot very well from outside.
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29-10-09, 16:42
I know, when i was watching i felt sorry for him.
but i guess he likes the sport enough to keep playing. not everyone can be good at it.
I was watching him in the maroochydoore game number 44 dropped about 25 points i am guessing. i thought he did quite well at grading and i think he had a back injury coz he was holding his back in most of the games. But he did not back it up in the other 2 games on the same day, but all together he is a well rounded player and i would watch out for caboolture even though the underdogs they may come up to surprise us all
but thats just what i think
I think toowoomba will beat suns by 20
Silver should beat logan by 30
and Noosa should beat Redlands by 10
YES oh gosh yes
i was pointing that out at grading.
He isnt that good he just has alot of the ball and alot of PT
but hes not terrible.
suns will be on the bottom of the table i think
fighting with NS and GC to stay out of wooden spoon position
NS2 are not in U18 b SC, sry.
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29-10-09, 18:14
I know, when i was watching i felt sorry for him.
but i guess he likes the sport enough to keep playing. not everyone can be good at it.
how can you feel sorry for him?, i saw him play hes not terrible hes one of the best on the suns team
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29-10-09, 20:23
Noosa - Have a great PG who can control most games, as well as a lot of great outside shooters. Im gonna say that they will finish 2nd this year.
BBI Silver - Too much fire power in this team, Nick Dickinson can take over games, Brandon Hollaway is probably the best shooting PG in the competition and Justin Schultz is a fantastic worker and fights for everything. Looking for BBI Silver to take out Southern Cup and advance to Div1 for classics.
For this week however:
BBI vs. Logan = BBI by 30+
Noosa vs. Redlands = Noosa by 15+
T'Woomba vs. Suns = T'Wooma by 20+
Gold Coast vs. South West = South West by 10
Noosa - Have a great PG who can control most games, as well as a lot of great outside shooters. Im gonna say that they will finish 2nd this year.
BBI Silver - Too much fire power in this team, Nick Dickinson can take over games, Brandon Hollaway is probably the best shooting PG in the competition and Justin Schultz is a fantastic worker and fights for everything. Looking for BBI Silver to take out Southern Cup and advance to Div1 for classics.
For this week however:
BBI vs. Logan = BBI by 30+
Noosa vs. Redlands = Noosa by 15+
T'Woomba vs. Suns = T'Wooma by 20+
Gold Coast vs. South West = South West by 10
Yes BBI silver is a strong team, but I don't think there is any crossovers this season
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29-10-09, 22:11
Noosa - Have a great PG who can control most games, as well as a lot of great outside shooters. Im gonna say that they will finish 2nd this year.
BBI Silver - Too much fire power in this team, Nick Dickinson can take over games, Brandon Hollaway is probably the best shooting PG in the competition and Justin Schultz is a fantastic worker and fights for everything. Looking for BBI Silver to take out Southern Cup and advance to Div1 for classics.
For this week however:
BBI vs. Logan = BBI by 30+
Noosa vs. Redlands = Noosa by 15+
T'Woomba vs. Suns = T'Wooma by 20+
Gold Coast vs. South West = South West by 10
would deffinetly agree with this
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29-10-09, 22:37
How do use reckon the placing will go this season for SC???
BBI silver seem to have a strong team with brandon holloway and Dickenson
and heard caboolture may come up to surprise some people? or not?
whats everyones thoughts???
Noosa - Have a great PG who can control most games, as well as a lot of great outside shooters. Im gonna say that they will finish 2nd this year.
BBI Silver - Too much fire power in this team, Nick Dickinson can take over games, Brandon Hollaway is probably the best shooting PG in the competition and Justin Schultz is a fantastic worker and fights for everything. Looking for BBI Silver to take out Southern Cup and advance to Div1 for classics.
For this week however:
BBI vs. Logan = BBI by 30+
Noosa vs. Redlands = Noosa by 15+
T'Woomba vs. Suns = T'Wooma by 20+
Gold Coast vs. South West = South West by 10
while u have several valid points on bris i think logan will do damage inside. Brisbanes bigs a re far to slow and have a low bbal IQ. Logan have one of the best bigs in the league in this Fergusen kid. And they also have this other fellow Peter Nicholls coming of the bench and having limited inutes for whatever reason he was logans 3rd highest scorer behind Kyle and Mac and now with Macs injury look for Peters minutes to rise.
while u have several valid points on bris i think logan will do damage inside. Brisbanes bigs a re far to slow and have a low bbal IQ. Logan have one of the best bigs in the league in this Fergusen kid. And they also have this other fellow Peter Nicholls coming of the bench and having limited inutes for whatever reason he was logans 3rd highest scorer behind Kyle and Mac and now with Macs injury look for Peters minutes to rise.
Just a question, not being smart as someone put this to me the other day.
Did Logan choose to do it tough at SC grading? A lot of talk on here about them being a contender and how great they are, why did they have to go to the crossover game to get their spot in SC?
I am not putting them down what so ever and also think they are a good team with a great coach, but just wanted to ask the general public for their opinion.
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30-10-09, 00:03
Just a question, not being smart as someone put this to me the other day.
Did Logan choose to do it tough at SC grading? A lot of talk on here about them being a contender and how great they are, why did they have to go to the crossover game to get their spot in SC?
I am not putting them down what so ever and also think they are a good team with a great coach, but just wanted to ask the general public for their opinion.
yeah logan only won the crossover game by 4 points aswell close game.
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30-10-09, 07:00
Noosa - Have a great PG who can control most games, as well as a lot of great outside shooters. Im gonna say that they will finish 2nd this year.
BBI Silver - Too much fire power in this team, Nick Dickinson can take over games, Brandon Hollaway is probably the best shooting PG in the competition and Justin Schultz is a fantastic worker and fights for everything. Looking for BBI Silver to take out Southern Cup and advance to Div1 for classics.
For this week however:
BBI vs. Logan = BBI by 30+
Noosa vs. Redlands = Noosa by 15+
T'Woomba vs. Suns = T'Wooma by 20+
Gold Coast vs. South West = South West by 10
How many games did BBI Silver win at PL grading? Not many I think, if I'm incorrect I stand corrected.
They will do ok in SC but not that well "to take out SC"!!!! Toowoomba, Noosa and SW to get thru first...
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30-10-09, 11:57
How many games did BBI Silver win at PL grading? Not many I think, if I'm incorrect I stand corrected.
They will do ok in SC but not that well "to take out SC"!!!! Toowoomba, Noosa and SW to get thru first...
BBI Silver lost just one game; to Noosa by 2 in over-time. It was a tight game with the refs and bench wrecking the game. They also beat logan by 40+. So Logan will have to fight hard to make it a game on saturday.
Also, Redlands look disorganised on the court and its their marginal skill and hustle that keeps them in the competition. SW have to start playing as a team, and I'd say in general that every team is still in the developmental stage this early in the season and after some training it will be a good competition to watch.
Just a question, not being smart as someone put this to me the other day.
Did Logan choose to do it tough at SC grading? A lot of talk on here about them being a contender and how great they are, why did they have to go to the crossover game to get their spot in SC?
I am not putting them down what so ever and also think they are a good team with a great coach, but just wanted to ask the general public for their opinion.
Logans starting point guard was and still is out they had several other players battling injuries and also they rested their better players far to often having said that the more i think about it the less confident i am about Logan. So i guess we will have to wait and see
BBI Silver lost just one game; to Noosa by 2 in over-time. It was a tight game with the refs and bench wrecking the game. They also beat logan by 40+. So Logan will have to fight hard to make it a game on saturday.
Also, Redlands look disorganised on the court and its their marginal skill and hustle that keeps them in the competition. SW have to start playing as a team, and I'd say in general that every team is still in the developmental stage this early in the season and after some training it will be a good competition to watch.
The reason all of these teams in SC didnt make it into PL ( if they tried out) is because of team work or lack of, Lack of dominant hieght and generally possessing prodominately bottom age players in thier teams, sure NS went through but with average hieght of 6'2 they should!!!!
Marginal Skill is not a good description of Redlands, maybee the above mentioned were issues, but I can say 1 thing is that after being decimated at SC grading with injuries, they still managed play as a team to win all 4 games against their opposition, 2 of whom are in SC. 6 players for the final hitout with GC2 and Redlands also finished top of the table if I remember correctly (Toowoomba would have taken it out if they played 4 games, but thier percentage was higher than Reds anyways).
Credit where credit is due,
Every team deserves to be in their respective comps and we should expect some really hard games and the competition will be as fierce as PL or CC. This age group has heaps of kids that I think are all good players just makes it easier for them to step up and be exceptional players when the competition is so good. Development is great seeing 1st year players in starting roles etc.
YES oh gosh yes
i was pointing that out at grading.
He isnt that good he just has alot of the ball and alot of PT
but hes not terrible.
suns will be on the bottom of the table i think
fighting with NS and GC to stay out of wooden spoon position
Mr Review....... let me declare my conflict of interest up front. I am unashamedley Gold Coast biased.
That said ........ I think you should be reviewing the Premier League Soccer!Firstly, NS did not make SC.
Secondly, GC for wooden spoon :confused:
I have copied this post and saved it elsewhere for future reference just in case you delete it to avoid embarassment. I know the boys prefer to avoid being mentioned here so they can sneak under the radar as the 18's did last year and snuck up on the competition, making it to the classics GF, which no Bendoes expert foresaw.
This travesty of insight, however, cannot be ignored.
Mr Review....... let me declare my conflict of interest up front. I am unashamedley Gold Coast biased.
That said ........ I think you should be reviewing the Premier League Soccer!Firstly, NS did not make SC.
Secondly, GC for wooden spoon :confused:
I have copied this post and saved it elsewhere for future reference just in case you delete it to avoid embarassment. I know the boys prefer to avoid being mentioned here so they can sneak under the radar as the 18's did last year and snuck up on the competition, making it to the classics GF, which no Bendoes expert foresaw.
This travesty of insight, however, cannot be ignored.
ok ive been pointed out on several occasions my mistake
on the NS front appologies there.
however GC are a good team with some really talented players i.e Kian but i just cant see them getting to many Wins. Redlands 1 is a closely matched opponent as are Logan. These three teams i believe will be fighting for 4th along with Noosa behind bris toowoomba and SW. Gold coast lasck a strong inside presence (apart from Kian) on the defensive end but due to the lack of good inside offensive players they should be able to stick with Noosa and SW and it is likley they will gwt over redlands. Logan on the other hand have great post scorers in Mac and Kyle. So based on my assumptions i cann ot see them making top 4 or 5 or possibly even 6. But i wish them all the best and would like to see them in the 4. So good luck
Mr Review....... let me declare my conflict of interest up front. I am unashamedley Gold Coast biased.
That said ........ I think you should be reviewing the Premier League Soccer!Firstly, NS did not make SC.
Secondly, GC for wooden spoon :confused:
I have copied this post and saved it elsewhere for future reference just in case you delete it to avoid embarassment. I know the boys prefer to avoid being mentioned here so they can sneak under the radar as the 18's did last year and snuck up on the competition, making it to the classics GF, which no Bendoes expert foresaw.
This travesty of insight, however, cannot be ignored.
I think the NS reference was for the 1st side and not the 2nd side.
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31-10-09, 23:24
BBI over Logan by 30.
BBI looked solid tonight from what I saw, Holloway, Dickinson and Josh (I think) all led from the front.
Any news on other results??
Coast over South West by a couple. Intense game, marred by a lopsided foul count and some hideous "no calls" at the other end.
For my money, The Coast looked better by about 10 even without their big man, Brandon Tom. It was a genuine team effort with all the boys contributing. Kian was on fire against his old team.
For the Pirates, Christian was strong, penetrating to the middle and floating that pretty shot from the front of the hoop. The real tall big man was pretty hard to keep off the boards and the solid guard (no. 20) was strong.
A lot of improvement ahead for both these teams I'd say. The rematch at the Coast will be one to watch!
Noosa over the Depleated Reds by 23 pts, Cant see Redlands playing much worse, but what an outfit Noosa are. Shooting was superb, hussled Redlands off the ball 99% of the game. Their PG (no. 4) is a machine and opened us up right from the fisrt Qtr. Got as close as 3pts in the third but Noosa's fitness and extra players saw them run away in the 4th. Well coached side with a geat man D but a bit of a 2 man show in offence from set plays. Final qtr saw a run and gun, fast paced and lots of broken play and the other players certainly joined the party.
I think most teams will struggle with Noosa at home, I was suitably impressed :) with them. Good team
Only thing they lacked was a court controller (up with BQ rules) which saw some wrong descisions made at cruscial times of 2 games from what I saw. But did they really effect the outcomes? Never know that one I guess.
Special mention to our CC side who were great to watch and got a deserved win. Congrats Chris and the boys.
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01-11-09, 06:59
Mr Review....... let me declare my conflict of interest up front. I am unashamedley Gold Coast biased.
That said ........ I think you should be reviewing the Premier League Soccer!Firstly, NS did not make SC.
Secondly, GC for wooden spoon :confused:
I have copied this post and saved it elsewhere for future reference just in case you delete it to avoid embarassment. I know the boys prefer to avoid being mentioned here so they can sneak under the radar as the 18's did last year and snuck up on the competition, making it to the classics GF, which no Bendoes expert foresaw.
This travesty of insight, however, cannot be ignored.
Emu, I agree that Goldie were brisbanes toughest competition that year. I also understand its baskbetball but after the first quarter of playing man to man defence and getting blown out of the water GC reverted to a zone for the remaining 3 qrtrs to get back into the game as alot of it then came down to how well BNE were going to shoot the ball on the night.
Dont get me wrong gold coast were a good team, but not great. Yes the state final was a 'classic', but i would have preferred to see them gun it out an man to really prove how good they were. Not once did BNE play a zone
unless falling back after a press. I also agree GC boys go under the radar and stay of Bendoes...as should all boys in there assocaitions. :banghead:
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01-11-09, 10:54
Hey guys just a thought.. How about we all have an early season competition and try and pick an all-southern cup 1st, 2nd and maybe a 3rd team? So 2 guards, 2 forwards and 1 centre?
We could also predict who will be the season leading scorer etc...
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01-11-09, 10:55
Hey guys just a thought.. How about we all have an early season competition and try and pick an all-southern cup 1st, 2nd and maybe a 3rd team? So 2 guards, 2 forwards and 1 centre? And then we can re-evaluate at the end of the season..
We could also predict who will be the season leading scorer etc...
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01-11-09, 12:49
Hey guys just a thought.. How about we all have an early season competition and try and pick an all-southern cup 1st, 2nd and maybe a 3rd team? So 2 guards, 2 forwards and 1 centre? And then we can re-evaluate at the end of the season..
We could also predict who will be the season leading scorer etc...
PG: Jack Hunt
SG:
SF:
PF:
C:
Feel free to fill in the blanks.
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01-11-09, 14:57
Noosa did have a court controller and a referee educator on board and a visit from BQJBC referee coordinator who oversaw portions of 4 games however neither are required to overrule an officials call. Unfortunately the BQ shirts had not arrived for easy identification.
Thanks to Redlands it was a pleasure hosting 5 of your teams and all games were played in the right spirit of this wonderful game which is a credit to your Coaches and Management.
Noosa over the Depleated Reds by 23 pts, Cant see Redlands playing much worse, but what an outfit Noosa are. Shooting was superb, hussled Redlands off the ball 99% of the game. Their PG (no. 4) is a machine and opened us up right from the fisrt Qtr. Got as close as 3pts in the third but Noosa's fitness and extra players saw them run away in the 4th. Well coached side with a geat man D but a bit of a 2 man show in offence from set plays. Final qtr saw a run and gun, fast paced and lots of broken play and the other players certainly joined the party.
I think most teams will struggle with Noosa at home, I was suitably impressed :) with them. Good team
Only thing they lacked was a court controller (up with BQ rules) which saw some wrong descisions made at cruscial times of 2 games from what I saw. But did they really effect the outcomes? Never know that one I guess.
Special mention to our CC side who were great to watch and got a deserved win. Congrats Chris and the boys.
Hey guys just a thought.. How about we all have an early season competition and try and pick an all-southern cup 1st, 2nd and maybe a 3rd team? So 2 guards, 2 forwards and 1 centre?
We could also predict who will be the season leading scorer etc...
thats a great idea.. ive heard rumours about this before.... how exactlyy do you propose to enforce this system though???
and will it just be an unofficial thing?
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01-11-09, 17:13
(No Positions, just best 5 players)
1st TEAM
Nick Dickinson - BBI
Brandon Holloway - BBI
Tom Wade - Noosa
Michael Rickwood - Toowoomba
Nathan Farley - Redlands
2nd TEAM
Jack Hunt - Noosa
Kyle Ferguson - Logan
Justin Schultz - BBI
Christian Lam - South West
Josh Kohut - BBI
Other Mentions - Craig Malone (Redlands), Matt Donaldsan (Caboolture)
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01-11-09, 17:24
(No Positions, just best 5 players)
1st TEAM
Nick Dickinson - BBI
Brandon Holloway - BBI
Tom Wade - Noosa
Michael Rickwood - Toowoomba
Nathan Farley - Redlands
2nd TEAM
Jack Hunt - Noosa
Kyle Ferguson - Logan
Justin Schultz - BBI
Christian Lam - South West
Josh Kohut - BBI
Other Mentions - Craig Malone (Redlands), Matt Donaldsan (Caboolture)
Swap Farley to the 2nd team for Hunt and you're on the right track. Also I like Malone for the 2nd team. Solid big.
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01-11-09, 17:57
(No Positions, just best 5 players)
1st TEAM
Nick Dickinson - BBI
Brandon Holloway - BBI
Tom Wade - Noosa
Michael Rickwood - Toowoomba
Nathan Farley - Redlands
2nd TEAM
Jack Hunt - Noosa
Kyle Ferguson - Logan
Justin Schultz - BBI
Christian Lam - South West
Josh Kohut - BBI
Other Mentions - Craig Malone (Redlands), Matt Donaldsan (Caboolture)
lets wait for ALL the stats for round 1 before we assume teams
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01-11-09, 18:14
I tend to agree with the previous poster, actually I'll take it a bit further. I think we'd be better off waiting for the first half of the season. Many players are playing in new teams & need some time to adapt.
I can think of at least four guards not on any of the lists that could rate in either 1st or 2nd team, Keenan from SW if u want a PG who drives hard & is gonna get you a bunch of points, Roger from Logan if you want a guard who's gonna lock down the defense and get the stops down the stretch, Dylan from Redlands if you're looking for a guard that's gonna run the plays and rack up the assists & Jarrad from NS if you need a clutch 3 point/jump shooter to help wrap the game up. Shit, I forgot Stevie from BBI Silver...
When you put these boys together with the one's already mentioned there's a real range of classy guards in SC this year that would all work well in an all-star type lineup, just depends what sort of player you're looking for, cos they all have very different styles of play...
Now, onto the bigs...(someone???)
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01-11-09, 18:21
No stats from the Gc v Sw game yet , who stood out from south west and also gc?
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01-11-09, 19:12
I tend to agree with the previous poster, actually I'll take it a bit further. I think we'd be better off waiting for the first half of the season. Many players are playing in new teams & need some time to adapt.
I can think of at least four guards not on any of the lists that could rate in either 1st or 2nd team, Keenan from SW if u want a PG who drives hard & is gonna get you a bunch of points, Roger from Logan if you want a guard who's gonna lock down the defense and get the stops down the stretch, Dylan from Redlands if you're looking for a guard that's gonna run the plays and rack up the assists & Jarrad from NS if you need a clutch 3 point/jump shooter to help wrap the game up. Shit, I forgot Stevie from BBI Silver...
When you put these boys together with the one's already mentioned there's a real range of classy guards in SC this year that would all work well in an all-star type lineup, just depends what sort of player you're looking for, cos they all have very different styles of play...
Now, onto the bigs...(someone???)
Yeah I agree, however IMO Brandon and Nick are the two standout guards, along with Jack from Noosa and Keenan from SW.
BBI are lucky to have both Brandon and Nick, as well as Steve coming off the bench, which makes up a solid backcourt.
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01-11-09, 19:13
Suns Vs Twmba was good game
Suns winning the whole first half but tended to start losing it in the third
Twmba brang it back by showing there great range from the 3 point line and then started blowing it out by there fast break basketball which suns could not stop
Suns shocked me with how well they played in the first half did not really expect that from them. They will be a strong team if they can learn to play all 4 quaters of the game
Top 3 scorers
1.Michael Rickwood, 22 points (Twmba)
2.Grant Coldstream, 19 points (Twmba)
3.Matt Donaldson, 18 points (Suns)
Noosa did have a court controller and a referee educator on board and a visit from BQJBC referee coordinator who oversaw portions of 4 games however neither are required to overrule an officials call. Unfortunately the BQ shirts had not arrived for easy identification.
Thanks to Redlands it was a pleasure hosting 5 of your teams and all games were played in the right spirit of this wonderful game which is a credit to your Coaches and Management.
Sry I didnt realise the situation on officials uniforms. Just used to seeing them around thats all.
Over all though, I loved the ambience of the Liesure Centre and thought that all the Noosa Parents and Staff were friendly and there was definately a very high standard of sportsmanship shown by Noosa Players and Supporters. Reminded me of why I am involved in Redlands BBall it was like looking in the mirror.
Thank you for having us over to play. Am Looking forward to our return game.
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01-11-09, 20:02
This was a great face paced game from start to finish. Both teams started off strong, with it being only a 5 point game at the end of one. However in the second quarter Brandon Holloway and Josh Kohout started scoring well and pushed the game out to double digits at the end of the first half. Dickinson from BBI started scoring as well in the third as did Logans Peter Nicolls. Then final quarter was all Brisbane, as they held on for a strong 30 point win.
BBI Silver 97 (Brandon Holloway 24 Points, Josh Kohout 16 Points, Liam Emery 14 Points)
defeated
Logan 67 (Peter Nicholls 13 Points, Jordan Day 11 Points, David Stone 8 Points)
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01-11-09, 22:12
top 5 scorers for Round 1:
Thomas Wade (Noosa): 31 pts
Jack Hunt (Noosa): 31 pts
Kian Fonua (Gold Coast): 27 pts
Nathan Farley (Redlands): 25 pts
Brandon Hewitt-Holloway (BBI Silver): 24 pts
top 5 so far this season
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01-11-09, 22:54
Hey guys just a thought.. How about we all have an early season competition and try and pick an all-southern cup 1st, 2nd and maybe a 3rd team? So 2 guards, 2 forwards and 1 centre? And then we can re-evaluate at the end of the season..
We could also predict who will be the season leading scorer etc...
best 10 for now, not going by positions
All first team:
1:Jack hunt/noosa
2:Brandon Holloway/bbi
3:Thomas Wade/noosa
4:Kian Fonua/gc
5:Michael Rickwood/Twmba
All Second team:
1:Nick Dickinson/bbi
2:Christian lam/swm
3:Nathan Farley/Redlands
4:Matt Donaldson/caboolture
5:Kyle Ferguson/logan
Thoughts
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02-11-09, 07:25
best 10 for now, not going by positions
All first team:
1:Jack hunt/noosa
2:Brandon Holloway/bbi
3:Thomas Wade/noosa
4:Kian Fonua/gc
5:Michael Rickwood/Twmba
All Second team:
1:Nick Dickinson/bbi
2:Christian lam/swm
3:Nathan Farley/Redlands
4:Matt Donaldson/caboolture
5:Kyle Ferguson/logan
Thoughts
I would agree, however Justin schultz from bbi should be in the second team instead of matt donaldson. Also Josh kohout from bbi is a better player and worker than matt. I would have matt as my 12th man..
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02-11-09, 10:36
Only thing they lacked was a court controller (up with BQ rules) which saw some wrong descisions made at cruscial times of 2 games from what I saw. But did they really effect the outcomes? Never know that one I guess.
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What calls are you talking about? You had a level 3 ref on your game. you make it sound like you were hard done by with the refs and that might have changed the outcome of the game? i dont think so.. Do they have level 3 refs in Redlands?
best 10 for now, not going by positions
All first team:
1:Jack hunt/noosa
2:Brandon Holloway/bbi
3:Thomas Wade/noosa
4:Kian Fonua/gc
5:Michael Rickwood/Twmba
All Second team:
1:Nick Dickinson/bbi
2:Christian lam/swm
3:Nathan Farley/Redlands
4:Matt Donaldson/caboolture
5:Kyle Ferguson/logan
Thoughts
agreed... however i would take out kyle and put in the big fella from brisbane. Sorry but how can you be in their and only have 7 points in the opening game?
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02-11-09, 16:36
This whole topic of all League teams for a 2nd Division Comp is ridiculous. ANd trying to throw names out there after Round 1 even more ridiculous. Anyone can have an off night or maybe didn't play at all due to injury. There are some players in these lists that aren't even the best players on their own team, they just scored well in Round 1. Maybe they cherry picked, maybe they shot the lights out. Why not just post Top 10 scorers if that's what you're judging by.
If you rated the NBA the same way, well the Cavs suck because they lost their first 2, and Pau Gasol who is yet to play would never be mentioned.
Seeing the whole exercise is to stroke the ego's of all the Players (and of course their Mums and dad's) who aren't in Div 1 and are not in contention for the state team, so we can see who the best of the rest is, seems pretty stupid to me.
As a Coach, I hope all Players are focused on improving their own game and playing well with their teammates, not this kind of BS.
This whole topic of all League teams for a 2nd Division Comp is ridiculous. ANd trying to throw names out there after Round 1 even more ridiculous. Anyone can have an off night or maybe didn't play at all due to injury. There are some players in these lists that aren't even the best players on their own team, they just scored well in Round 1. Maybe they cherry picked, maybe they shot the lights out. Why not just post Top 10 scorers if that's what you're judging by.
If you rated the NBA the same way, well the Cavs suck because they lost their first 2, and Pau Gasol who is yet to play would never be mentioned.
Seeing the whole exercise is to stroke the ego's of all the Players (and of course their Mums and dad's) who aren't in Div 1 and are not in contention for the state team, so we can see who the best of the rest is, seems pretty stupid to me.
As a Coach, I hope all Players are focused on improving their own game and playing well with their teammates, not this kind of BS.
if your so concerend with the topics of discussion and the concept of choosing an all team feel free to take a step back. Nobodys askin you to be a apart of it so why complain.
What calls are you talking about? You had a level 3 ref on your game. you make it sound like you were hard done by with the refs and that might have changed the outcome of the game? i dont think so.. Do they have level 3 refs in Redlands?
If you read it again you might see that it was an observation not a whinge!!! And my observation was also explained by the Noosa crew!
And did you read my first post on our trip to Noosa? Nothing but praise for the team and venue! Stop trying to cause crap! Not happening here buddy!!
"Only thing they lacked was a court controller (up with BQ rules) which saw some wrong descisions made at cruscial times of 2 games from what I saw. But did they really effect the outcomes? Never know that one I guess. "
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02-11-09, 22:54
If you read it again you might see that it was an observation not a whinge!!! And my observation was also explained by the Noosa crew!
And did you read my first post on our trip to Noosa? Nothing but praise for the team and venue! Stop trying to cause crap! Not happening here buddy!!
"Only thing they lacked was a court controller (up with BQ rules) which saw some wrong descisions made at cruscial times of 2 games from what I saw. But did they really effect the outcomes? Never know that one I guess. "
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You make alot of observations and most of them are good to read. However i dont understand the point you were trying to make? A word of advice for all coaches, would be not to make "observations" about refs on public forums, especially if your elluding to the their so called wrong decisions may/may not have affected the outcome of a game. Remember the refs read these forums too.
You make alot of observations and most of them are good to read. However i dont understand the point you were trying to make? A word of advice for all coaches, would be not to make "observations" about refs on public forums, especially if your elluding to the their so called wrong decisions may/may not have affected the outcome of a game. Remember the refs read these forums too.
Did you read it again? No offence intended to the said Ref, and no complaint and I said I didnt know if it would have affected the outcome of the game. But if you are who I think you are, then I dont want to start a slinging match with you, we lost and that is accepted regardless. We will work on our own faults, that at the end of the day lost us the game. I not once said it was the refs fault!! BTW, I dont often bag refs as I am one myself, not a level 3 only a simple level 1a, only reason I dont go further is my fitness and availability to ref higher level games.
Feel free to register and send me a message off the public forum if you would like further convo on this, cause it is not the right place to be having this chat.
Seeing the whole exercise is to stroke the ego's of all the Players (and of course their Mums and dad's) who aren't in Div 1 and are not in contention for the state team, so we can see who the best of the rest is, seems pretty stupid to me.
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The thing is, and what you a lot of people forget, there is more to rep basketball than PL and who is in the State squad. For my team in CC, this is technically the highest level they play, their NBA, for the next season at least. They play as hard as they can, respect themselves and their opposition, who travel hundreds of kms each week in most cases and I am proud to be their coach. Wouldn't trade it for anything.
How dare you, or anyone else denigrate it as being less important than the other levels of U18. Everything in its place and a time and place for all kids to develop. There are a lot of names no one has posted here, who, in due time, given the right advice and coaching will be at U18 State level. I have one kid who trains eight sessions a week, with the best basketball-specific individual coaches he can source, as well as sessions with Acceleration ESP. Who are you to say he is not good enough or he is not willing to put in the work to make PL? Good luck to those who are in the limelight at the moment, but please don't hang shit on those who are not playing PL, especially when you don't know their circumstances.
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03-11-09, 10:46
The thing is, and what you a lot of people forget, there is more to rep basketball than PL and who is in the State squad. For my team in CC, this is technically the highest level they play, their NBA, for the next season at least. They play as hard as they can, respect themselves and their opposition, who travel hundreds of kms each week in most cases and I am proud to be their coach. Wouldn't trade it for anything.
How dare you, or anyone else denigrate it as being less important than the other levels of U18. Everything in its place and a time and place for all kids to develop. There are a lot of names no one has posted here, who, in due time, given the right advice and coaching will be at U18 State level. I have one kid who trains eight sessions a week, with the best basketball-specific individual coaches he can source, as well as sessions with Acceleration ESP. Who are you to say he is not good enough or he is not willing to put in the work to make PL? Good luck to those who are in the limelight at the moment, but please don't hang shit on those who are not playing PL, especially when you don't know their circumstances.
I'm coaching a Southern Cup Team, so am not hanging shit on this competition at all. I have players on my team as individuals that could be in Premier League but as a team we're not there yet as it takes more than one good player. I know of players who have even made State Teams from Southern Cup.
Your argument above is exactly what I'm talking about. There are many good players in this comp. Because not all associations can field a PL side there are several kids good enough to play in it and will shine in SC, others will work hard like the youngster you referred to and really improve as the season goes on.
How does it help any of these players by rating them after one game or at all, the players named had one good game and need to be continuing to work, not bashing their chests on here (cause we all know it's players and parents putting the names up) and their are others who should be named that aren't that don't need the distraction.
So again I state I am not hanging shit on these players but if you wish to respond with how this little ego fest is beneficial to their Basketball I'd be interested to read it.
My only reference was the fact that the State Team Selection process and ensuing debate is there to stroke the egos of those players and parents involved, and I do not like that ego fest either so see no need to create another one for this group of players.
So before you say what I feel, think and forget look at the point I'm making.
Fair enough, sorry to go off the deep end without properly reading. When I perceive my players are getting slighted I tend to throw a tanty :) I now realise that's not what you were doing.
I don't know if I completely agree with you, re: recognition for performances in SC and CC (in previous years I have been known to post game reports highlighting things my players have done in the excitement of a win post-game) but agree that mostly all that does on this board is bring the Stupids out of the woodwork to fling stuff around, the less of that the better.
The thing is, and what you a lot of people forget, there is more to rep basketball than PL and who is in the State squad. For my team in CC, this is technically the highest level they play, their NBA, for the next season at least. They play as hard as they can, respect themselves and their opposition, who travel hundreds of kms each week in most cases and I am proud to be their coach. Wouldn't trade it for anything.
How dare you, or anyone else denigrate it as being less important than the other levels of U18. Everything in its place and a time and place for all kids to develop. There are a lot of names no one has posted here, who, in due time, given the right advice and coaching will be at U18 State level. I have one kid who trains eight sessions a week, with the best basketball-specific individual coaches he can source, as well as sessions with Acceleration ESP. Who are you to say he is not good enough or he is not willing to put in the work to make PL? Good luck to those who are in the limelight at the moment, but please don't hang shit on those who are not playing PL, especially when you don't know their circumstances.
i thinkyou are 100% correct a fantastic insight. Some of the players in sc and even cc are better than some players in pl. There are so many reasons for choosing to play in a "lower division". Players coaches and parents take it just as seriously, as they should, for it werent taken seriously enough twits would be posting things on this forum like "he shouldnt be playing, he doesnt take it seriously enough" etc thing like this. And just because a team is "better" than another it doesnt make their hearts any bigger, just their heads.
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03-11-09, 11:41
how about you just call it the team of the week thats way no one is being judged on anything but the game they had that particular week and we will then get a few different names week in week out and can we incude challenge cup in this becuase in my opinion there is very little difference between what will be the top 4 in cc and what will be the botton 4-5 in SS
so just ake in team of the week based on scores or what spectators have seen
GC V BBI2
Logan2 V SW
Red V Suns
Noosa V Twmba
(First team home team)
Predictions:-
BBI2 by +10 GC2 will push BBI this week but drop off in the final qtr
SW Metro +25 only blow out by SW, I think Sid will have them firing this week.
Reds +10 Get a good lead and taper off in the 4th and just hang on to the lead.
Noosa OT +4 First of the big games for the year, Noosa at home too good. Love to be there to see this one though, its going to be a cracker.
I think I got 100% last week and the margins were pretty close too. Anyone running a book? (JOKES) :)
Whats everyone elses thoughts?
how about you just call it the team of the week thats way no one is being judged on anything but the game they had that particular week and we will then get a few different names week in week out and can we incude challenge cup in this becuase in my opinion there is very little difference between what will be the top 4 in cc and what will be the botton 4-5 in SS
so just ake in team of the week based on scores or what spectators have seen
Same thing I think m8
how about you just call it the team of the week thats way no one is being judged on anything but the game they had that particular week and we will then get a few different names week in week out and can we incude challenge cup in this becuase in my opinion there is very little difference between what will be the top 4 in cc and what will be the botton 4-5 in SS
so just ake in team of the week based on scores or what spectators have seen
great idea my friend.. however the key problem with this is people go on stats far to much and thats all anyone(excluding a few people who see the game) can go by. And the only stats that are available to the rest of us are points... if anyone can get a hold of the teams stats from managers or coaches this would be great, but i doubt the teams would aprove of this.
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03-11-09, 15:24
GC V BBI2
Logan2 V SW
Red V Suns
Noosa V Twmba
(First team home team)
Predictions:-
BBI2 by +10 GC2 will push BBI this week but drop off in the final qtr
SW Metro +25 only blow out by SW, I think Sid will have them firing this week.
Reds +10 Get a good lead and taper off in the 4th and just hang on to the lead.
Noosa OT +4 First of the big games for the year, Noosa at home too good. Love to be there to see this one though, its going to be a cracker.
I think I got 100% last week and the margins were pretty close too. Anyone running a book? (JOKES) :)
Whats everyone elses thoughts?
I agree Noosa and Twmba should be a good game.
I think the Suns may actually come on top of that game but that means the suns would have to play hard all 4 quaters and not slack off in the third like they did in the Twmba game.
I think BBI and GC2 game will not be close i think BBI will blow that out by +30/40
And i agree with South West +25
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03-11-09, 17:01
Thats ok its just a bit of fun we dont need exact results or exact stats , even in the AFL and other top grade sports not everyone gets to see every player in every game
its just a bit of fun and no one will die based on who is put in the weeks best team and who isnt
But would be nice to see kids mentioned for there positives and nice comments made about why kids where chosen rather than derrogatory comments. its a game ppl and every kid from the very best to the very worst love being out there so lets encourage and find the good
Hey i just heard Kyle from logan got ejected in logans game
does anyone know what for?
what are the repercutions for ejections??
GC V BBI2
Logan2 V SW
Red V Suns
Noosa V Twmba
(First team home team)
Predictions:-
BBI2 by +10 GC2 will push BBI this week but drop off in the final qtr
SW Metro +25 only blow out by SW, I think Sid will have them firing this week.
Reds +10 Get a good lead and taper off in the 4th and just hang on to the lead.
Noosa OT +4 First of the big games for the year, Noosa at home too good. Love to be there to see this one though, its going to be a cracker.
I think I got 100% last week and the margins were pretty close too. Anyone running a book? (JOKES) :)
Whats everyone elses thoughts?
When I review last weeks picks, I'm sure I can see Coach B picking SW by 15+ against the GC. GC won by 2. I'm not a mathematically gifted bird, but I'm thinking that incorrect pick may put a hole in your 100% claim.
When I review last weeks picks, I'm sure I can see Coach B picking SW by 15+ against the GC. GC won by 2. I'm not a mathematically gifted bird, but I'm thinking that incorrect pick may put a hole in your 100% claim.
Mr EMU YOU ARE 100% CORRECT. My appologies, forgot about the big upset. Congrats to the GC boys.
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06-11-09, 07:31
Mr EMU YOU ARE 100% CORRECT. My appologies, forgot about the big upset. Congrats to the GC boys.
Coach B don't matter, GC were certainly the underdogs but certainly deserved the 2pt win.
SW team appears to be having a 'few' geling probs and if that hasn't be sorted this week, then I would go with Logan taking this wks win. Solid TEAM play will always take the victors podium over individual efforts.
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06-11-09, 08:13
Match up of the round = Noosa vs Toowoomba.
Both teams still undefeated since grading. However im going to tip Noosa who have previously disposed of BBI silver and Redlands. Toowoomba really havnt played any strong teams apart from SW - and even they were beaten by GC.
Other teams to get the W = BBI, Redlands, and Logan at home.
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06-11-09, 10:41
BBI by 25 gold coast (not as good as SW made them to be)
REDLANDS by 15 over suns also not that crash hot
SW by 20 over logan (logan lucky to make SC cant see them winning a game) and I would think SW had a shocker against the GC and should be much better
Noosa and Twba should be a cracker Noosa at home by 4
Hey i just heard Kyle from logan got ejected in logans game
does anyone know what for?
what are the repercutions for ejections??
If a player was ejected a report should be written and submitted to BQ. Which states the charge and given a written description of the incident and events leading up to and following the disqualification. A tribunal is then held if the player has a case to answer. If found guilty of the charges the player will be sentenced by the tribunal depending on the charges and the penalties that they incur.
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06-11-09, 11:57
What a lot of rubbish-no player was ejected..this website is full of bravado and BS. There were 3 technical fouls called during that game-2 on one team and one on the other,. This might give one the impression that the level of refereeing was below standard and some players became frustrated and one might even suspect one referee was a tad precious-but since referees are deemed beyond reproach it would be inappropriate to say.
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06-11-09, 14:20
What a lot of rubbish-no player was ejected..this website is full of bravado and BS. There were 3 technical fouls called during that game-2 on one team and one on the other,. This might give one the impression that the level of refereeing was below standard and some players became frustrated and one might even suspect one referee was a tad precious-but since referees are deemed beyond reproach it would be inappropriate to say.
well this takes the cake...how does LBI powers feel about 3 tech fouls in a game, you don't specify which team got the 2 tech fouls.
Referees are approachable if done so at correct time and correct manner! Get off your high horse and get down on ground level where all the honest, well meaning supporters of this game are and stop putting the blame elsewhere, if there is problems in your team, namely out of control players, arrogant know all players or just plain obviously coaches who cannot control his players and team then fix up the problems there first and stop blaming everyone else.
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06-11-09, 15:35
Good luck to all the boys this weekend-hope you all have lots of fun, fair play and most of all no injuries. May the best teams win!!! Thanks to the Coaches and Managers who work so hard so that our boys (and we parents) can enjoy this wonderful entertainment.
Good luck to all the boys this weekend-hope you all have lots of fun, fair play and most of all no injuries. May the best teams win!!! Thanks to the Coaches and Managers who work so hard so that our boys (and we parents) can enjoy this wonderful entertainment.
WOW!!! When you write something like your post its what makes coaching juniors enjoyable. Thankyou for bringing a positive tone to the forum :)
Redlands up by 27. Marred by over sensitive foul calls, grrrr. Farley and Dylan stared for Redlands in O, but great team D saw them get over the line and then go on to build on the margin. Suns still a tough team though, be wary!!
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07-11-09, 23:21
Redlands up by 27. Marred by over sensitive foul calls, grrrr. Farley and Dylan stared for Redlands in O, but great team D saw them get over the line and then go on to build on the margin. Suns still a tough team though, be wary!!
The most disgusting display of reffing I have witnessed in my time watching Rep Basketball. Did it effect the outcome of the match, I doubt it, Redlands too good. BUT foul count 12 - 25 at half time,then after refs were talked to by Supervisor then to finish with a 23 - 30 foul count. It wasn't so much Suns getting called for fouls, couldn't argue with alot of them. it was more that Redlands were not being called consisently enough for exactly the same thing. Is it time for neutral Refs at these games. Farley and Dylan stand out games well done to them.
Neutral refs... you're paying the travel costs then?
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08-11-09, 08:29
The most disgusting display of reffing I have witnessed in my time watching Rep Basketball. Did it effect the outcome of the match, I doubt it, Redlands too good. BUT foul count 12 - 25 at half time,then after refs were talked to by Supervisor then to finish with a 23 - 30 foul count. It wasn't so much Suns getting called for fouls, couldn't argue with alot of them. it was more that Redlands were not being called consisently enough for exactly the same thing. Is it time for neutral Refs at these games. Farley and Dylan stand out games well done to them.
where was this game, Redland or north at Caboolture???
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08-11-09, 08:33
Neutral refs... you're paying the travel costs then?
Well then maybe BQ could do some sort of investigation into what the cost would be, if this would occur? The problem with this is would it stop parents,coaches or player complaining about the standard. Answer NO. Teams just need to 'suck it up'. There are venues out there whom visiting teams dread to go to due to the 'impartial reffing' going on, but we need them for these games to occur
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08-11-09, 08:36
where was this game, Redland or north at Caboolture???
Game at Redlands, I also saw refs in denim shorts and black t shirt reffing a girls games there against Toowoomba, one ref who was officating a game was also wearing the first aid officer shirt
Neutral refs... you're paying the travel costs then?
Hell, good luck finding enough Referees available to travel full stop.
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08-11-09, 09:38
The most disgusting display of reffing I have witnessed in my time watching Rep Basketball. Did it effect the outcome of the match, I doubt it, Redlands too good. BUT foul count 12 - 25 at half time,then after refs were talked to by Supervisor then to finish with a 23 - 30 foul count. It wasn't so much Suns getting called for fouls, couldn't argue with alot of them. it was more that Redlands were not being called consisently enough for exactly the same thing. Is it time for neutral Refs at these games. Farley and Dylan stand out games well done to them.
Well at least it sounds like the supervisors did their jobs. If the refs screwed it up in the first, at least they changed what they were doing in the second half and it evened up pretty much. I'm sure the players and coaches were annoyed by the reffing, someon's always annoyed, but at least they had refs there. I wouldn't want to be a ref, getting yelled at by coaches and spectators, and even players.
I know there's venues I don't like to play at because of the refs, but they are hjust doing a job that not manyo other people want to do. Sounds like Redlands finally played up to their expectations this week and sounds like Dylan and Farley stepped it up. Can't wait to play against them!
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08-11-09, 09:55
Hell, good luck finding enough Referees available to travel full stop.
14 games 28 refs from all over Brisbane, level 3 refs on every court come final game times...
excellent job by ref coordinator!!
floor controller also did superb job, thanks Logan!!!
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08-11-09, 11:27
Well at least it sounds like the supervisors did their jobs. If the refs screwed it up in the first, at least they changed what they were doing in the second half and it evened up pretty much. I'm sure the players and coaches were annoyed by the reffing, someon's always annoyed, but at least they had refs there. I wouldn't want to be a ref, getting yelled at by coaches and spectators, and even players.
I know there's venues I don't like to play at because of the refs, but they are hjust doing a job that not manyo other people want to do. Sounds like Redlands finally played up to their expectations this week and sounds like Dylan and Farley stepped it up. Can't wait to play against them!
No they didnt improve in the second half they were still terrible all they did was actually stop being so biosed to redlands and actually started calling fouls against them the most pathetic reffing ever seen and i might as well say that it did really affect the outcome suns would of been much MUCH closer if the refs were decent i mean guys were flopping like crazy and they were getting charges for it. It was terrible both for suns and redlands. Think there was one point where a player from suns stopped and before he even got a chance to start backing down the guy the little blond kid from redlands just fell and he got a charge for it, worst call i've ever seen.
Think redlands need to think about training there refs :)
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08-11-09, 13:43
I believe noosa is a serious contender, their team does'nt look too
great when you first look at them. however it looks like their teamwork
is based on the foundation of their friendships, I know it sounds corny but
i saw them play against toowoomba and they were down by like 15 pts.
and in the last half the whole team just clicked into gear playing awesome
defence, in the fourth quarter a few clutch 3 pointers where made and then the whole team was just
unstoppable after that.
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08-11-09, 15:38
I believe noosa is a serious contender, their team does'nt look too
great when you first look at them. however it looks like their teamwork
is based on the foundation of their friendships, I know it sounds corny but
i saw them play against toowoomba and they were down by like 15 pts.
and in the last half the whole team just clicked into gear playing awesome
defence, in the fourth quarter a few clutch 3 pointers where made and then the whole team was just
unstoppable after that.
winning formula= team work+trust+friendship+defense+hardwork produces amazing results!
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08-11-09, 18:52
i might as well say that it did really affect the outcome suns would of been much MUCH closer if the refs were decent)
Redlands might not have the best refs and last nights game showed that but dont say it would of 'really affected the outcome'. Redlands is at least trying and is still a pretty new rep association. And the reason redlands won is because they kept suns scoreless in the first 4 minutes and the score was 10-1 and from there they were in control other then one bad quarter.
Come on guys dont blame the refs for the lose because 3 weeks ago redlands beat them by 20+ at ipswich.
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08-11-09, 19:10
I believe noosa is a serious contender, their team does'nt look too
great when you first look at them. however it looks like their teamwork
is based on the foundation of their friendships, I know it sounds corny but
i saw them play against toowoomba and they were down by like 15 pts.
and in the last half the whole team just clicked into gear playing awesome
defence, in the fourth quarter a few clutch 3 pointers where made and then the whole team was just
unstoppable after that.
The team / association has developed a winning culture and will settle for nothing less.
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08-11-09, 19:36
Redlands might not have the best refs and last nights game showed that but dont say it would of 'really affected the outcome'. Redlands is at least trying and is still a pretty new rep association. And the reason redlands won is because they kept suns scoreless in the first 4 minutes and the score was 10-1 and from there they were in control other then one bad quarter.
Come on guys dont blame the refs for the lose because 3 weeks ago redlands beat them by 20+ at ipswich.
okay yer agree with that but like suns could of at least stayed at 10 points may not have won but kept it there but that was hard to do because of the referees.
No they didnt improve in the second half they were still terrible all they did was actually stop being so biosed to redlands and actually started calling fouls against them the most pathetic reffing ever seen and i might as well say that it did really affect the outcome suns would of been much MUCH closer if the refs were decent i mean guys were flopping like crazy and they were getting charges for it. It was terrible both for suns and redlands. Think there was one point where a player from suns stopped and before he even got a chance to start backing down the guy the little blond kid from redlands just fell and he got a charge for it, worst call i've ever seen.
Think redlands need to think about training there refs :)
Comon guys there were plenty of other calls to whinge about, but the charges were prob the best calls of the game due to 'the blonde kids' hard work in defense. If it was the worst call you've ever seen ask your self this. What constitutes a charge? Stephen has great foot speed and hustle so dont blame him. The last one was just a late call, like 3 seconds late but it was that obvious they had to call it. I thought some of the block calls were suspect being U18s, you should expect some body contact on your way to the basket.
I have always got along with u guys from the north and it didn't impress me much either, but atm we are struggling due to injuries to our refs (like myself) and we are digging deep to find officials for the games, hence the Ippy ref who was good enough to come help us out on the night and a few junior refs that stepped up in earlier games to help out too.
As earlier stated the boys did beat you by 29 in grading so I dont feel the refs would have effected the game outcome, and the foul count was even in regards to the score line.
I was especially impressed with your boys fighting spirit last night, even though you were down by 19 at one stage they fought back hard to close the gap and stay in it by the end of the third, great motion offence and tight D. I wish you all the luck in the season and Im sure we will have a torid time of it when we come to visit your stadium later in the season. Losses like that have a profound effect on a team and I am sure it will be a lot closer next time.
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08-11-09, 20:28
Comon guys there were plenty of other calls to whinge about, but the charges were prob the best calls of the game due to 'the blonde kids' hard work in defense. If it was the worst call you've ever seen ask your self this. What constitutes a charge? Stephen has great foot speed and hustle so dont blame him. The last one was just a late call, like 3 seconds late but it was that obvious they had to call it. I thought some of the block calls were suspect being U18s, you should expect some body contact on your way to the basket.
I have always got along with u guys from the north and it didn't impress me much either, but atm we are struggling due to injuries to our refs (like myself) and we are digging deep to find officials for the games, hence the Ippy ref who was good enough to come help us out on the night and a few junior refs that stepped up in earlier games to help out too.
As earlier stated the boys did beat you by 29 in grading so I dont feel the refs would have effected the game outcome, and the foul count was even in regards to the score line.
I was especially impressed with your boys fighting spirit last night, even though you were down by 19 at one stage they fought back hard to close the gap and stay in it by the end of the third, great motion offence and tight D. I wish you all the luck in the season and Im sure we will have a torid time of it when we come to visit your stadium later in the season. Losses like that have a profound effect on a team and I am sure it will be a lot closer next time.
C'mon coach B, your first post and this one obviously shows you were embarressed by the standard of reffing Redlands provided for an U18 Game, what I witnessed was a lack of consistency in inturpretation of the calls. I am taking nothing away from the team, it was not there fault that the calls went their way. Unfortunately the slanted calling in the first half did have an effect on a team unable to understand which way the refs were calling. At this age group I would expect players on both side to have some sort of idea what the ref was going to call when HE blew the whistle, both teams on every occassion stood around waiting for HIM to make a decision - for example Redlands number 9 being called for a pushing foul when on his back whilst Number 14 for Suns was over him fighting for the ball. All any team wants is a consistant calling of fouls at both ends of the court - your refs failed in this area. It is BS if you think it balanced out in the second half the damage was done in the first half. On a great note loved the 3 point shoot out in the third.
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09-11-09, 21:18
Comon guys there were plenty of other calls to whinge about, but the charges were prob the best calls of the game due to 'the blonde kids' hard work in defense. If it was the worst call you've ever seen ask your self this. What constitutes a charge? Stephen has great foot speed and hustle so dont blame him. The last one was just a late call, like 3 seconds late but it was that obvious they had to call it. I thought some of the block calls were suspect being U18s, you should expect some body contact on your way to the basket.
my god you thought the chagres were the best calls, you cant be serious and yes i think that call would of been the worst anyone has seen and i think for an 18s game the refs should be much better than that even if your assosiation has injuries it should be much better.
dont get me wrong we respect you guys a lot as a growing association i think your 18s team is very strong and will do very well as the season progresses.
I'm ready to move on to the next round.
Logan V Noosa - Noosa by 30+
Suns V Silver - Silver by 30+
Redlands V GC - Reds by under 5
Twmba V SW - Twmba by under 5
Home team first,
Thoughts everyone?
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10-11-09, 09:09
In agreement with Coach B on the first two,
Logan V Noosa - Noosa by 30+ Noosa is too good for anyone at the moment, but their first road trip might unsettle them a bit?
Suns V Silver - Silver by 30+ BBI put on a domoinant show down the Gold Coast on the weekend and really signaled the fact that they are the team to beat (can't wait for the BBI v Noosa game)
I don't know if GC will be up to the challenge, they copped a smashing at home to BBI & Redlands will be on a high after their big defeat of Coastal so I wouldn't be surprised if Redlands give GC a bit of a touch up, let's say Redlands by 15+ (I wonder how their refs will do this weekend?)
I guess Toowoomba at home is gonna be tough for any team, but SW will be looking to put the haters to rest and finally put in a cohesive, team effort, I'm going for SW to upset Toowoomba by 5-10.
Good luck everyone.
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10-11-09, 09:10
I'm ready to move on to the next round.
Logan V Noosa - Noosa by 30+
Suns V Silver - Silver by 30+
Redlands V GC - Reds by under 5
Twmba V SW - Twmba by under 5
Home team first,
Thoughts everyone?
yep well after a full round last week this week looks an easy one
same as above though i thinks the reds by 15 and Twba over a still dissapointing so far SW by 10+
I'm ready to move on to the next round.
Logan V Noosa - Noosa by 30+
Suns V Silver - Silver by 30+
Redlands V GC - Reds by under 5
Twmba V SW - Twmba by under 5
Home team first,
Thoughts everyone?
as much as i like noosa i think that will be a great game
logan were right in it with noosa at grading and came back in the 4th.
However i think noosa's backcourt led by jack hunt will be way to strong for logans even though logan also have an advantage inside but i think logan will eventually go down by about 5-10
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10-11-09, 15:09
my god you thought the chagres were the best calls, you cant be serious and yes i think that call would of been the worst anyone has seen and i think for an 18s game the refs should be much better than that even if your assosiation has injuries it should be much better.
dont get me wrong we respect you guys a lot as a growing association i think your 18s team is very strong and will do very well as the season progresses.
Get over it suns you lost, can't change result
as much as i like noosa i think that will be a great game
logan were right in it with noosa at grading and came back in the 4th.
However i think noosa's backcourt led by jack hunt will be way to strong for logans even though logan also have an advantage inside but i think logan will eventually go down by about 5-10
Noosa dont need an inside game when they shoot like they did against us in the 1st round. And Jack was awesome from the freethrow line on the drive as well so after watching Logan V SW on the weekend, there is no contest there. SW werent impressive and still won.
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10-11-09, 22:17
The team / association has developed a winning culture and will settle for nothing less.
Could you just refresh my memory of what they won which built the culture?
Could you just refresh my memory of what they won which built the culture?
I think we just may see some thing this year tho.
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11-11-09, 07:12
I think we just may see some thing this year tho.
Could be right. Nick Cooper did a great job with them over the last 2 years and laid a pretty good foundation to step up from.
Could be right. Nick Cooper did a great job with them over the last 2 years and laid a pretty good foundation to step up from.
I think Noosa are a well rounded team, if you pressure 1 or 2 players they are deep enough to have someone else step up. Their fitness is a big factor in the fourth blowing past both us and Twmba late in the game. Match of the year will come when they face Silver. No love lost there after grading thriller.
Redlands over GC2 by 14. Dropped a 20 point lead midway through the 3rd.
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15-11-09, 08:13
Redlands over GC2 by 14. Dropped a 20 point lead midway through the 3rd.
excellent Reds...congratulations!!!!
report from west...SW down to Toowoomba by 6. SW finally geling together-- almost had the game but #s9 and 10 for mountaineers accurate shooting all through the game pulled them back to the front after 7 down in the end. Coach toowoomba was worried but his players got them thru.
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15-11-09, 19:45
I was expecting a blowout in this one, however the suns shocked me and kept the game close all game. BBI ended up winning by 20, however it was a 3 point game in the 4th.
I only saw the second half but from what I saw the guard combination of Brandon and BBI's #4 was too much for the caboolture guards to handle. Also BBI's big was dominant. Very impressed by caboolture and Im looking forward to watching them play Noosa next week.
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15-11-09, 20:33
I was expecting a blowout in this one, however the suns shocked me and kept the game close all game. BBI ended up winning by 20, however it was a 3 point game in the 4th.
I only saw the second half but from what I saw the guard combination of Brandon and BBI's #4 was too much for the caboolture guards to handle. Also BBI's big was dominant. Very impressed by caboolture and Im looking forward to watching them play Noosa next week.
who is #4 from brissie i saw that game he was just to good for caboolture and in the 4th quarter he gave them that big buffer to give them the 20 point win
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16-11-09, 11:39
I was expecting a blowout in this one, however the suns shocked me and kept the game close all game. BBI ended up winning by 20, however it was a 3 point game in the 4th.
I only saw the second half but from what I saw the guard combination of Brandon and BBI's #4 was too much for the caboolture guards to handle. Also BBI's big was dominant. Very impressed by caboolture and Im looking forward to watching them play Noosa next week.
wow really i was expecting suns to get blown out, who did well from suns?
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16-11-09, 12:01
Brisbane were pretty woeful by their standards, took them 3/4 game to get going and struggled to hit a jumpshot in the first half. Every time they started to extend they would give away a tech foul letting suns back into it after being frustrated by the referring.
No 44 for Suns was outstanding, and no 4 for Brisbane
Brisbane were pretty woeful by their standards, took them 3/4 game to get going and struggled to hit a jumpshot in the first half. Every time they started to extend they would give away a tech foul letting suns back into it after being frustrated by the referring.
No 44 for Suns was outstanding, and no 4 for Brisbane
Was it at Suns home court??????
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16-11-09, 14:54
Was it at Suns home court??????
Sure was.
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16-11-09, 18:03
Brisbane were pretty woeful by their standards, took them 3/4 game to get going and struggled to hit a jumpshot in the first half. Every time they started to extend they would give away a tech foul letting suns back into it after being frustrated by the referring.
No 44 for Suns was outstanding, and no 4 for Brisbane
I do agree with you, i was impressed with how number 4 from brisbane played. Brandon also having a great game.
Number 44 from suns was great out there, shooting the ball really well, was really impressed with how he played. not sure of his name? also thought numbr 24 from suns did a good job on the glass.
Was very impressed by suns performance and think there going to give Noosa a run for there money.
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16-11-09, 19:39
So I thought we should all have a go at posting 1st and 2nd teams from the season so far. Everyone should also take into account teams win/loss.
1ST TEAM
Thomas Wade - Noosa (3-0)
Brandon Holloway - BBI (3-0)
Jack Hunt - Noosa (3-0)
Nathan Farley - Redlands (2-1)
Michael Rickwood - Toowoomba (2-1)
2ND TEAM
Grant Coldstream - Toowoomba (2-1)
Alex Dart - Redlands (2-1)
Emile Conradie - Gold Coast (1-2)
Matt Donaldson - Caboolture (0-3)
Craig Malone - Redlands (2-1)
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16-11-09, 20:38
So I thought we should all have a go at posting 1st and 2nd teams from the season so far. Everyone should also take into account teams win/loss.
1ST TEAM
Thomas Wade - Noosa (3-0)
Brandon Holloway - BBI (3-0)
Jack Hunt - Noosa (3-0)
Nathan Farley - Redlands (2-1)
Michael Rickwood - Toowoomba (2-1)
2ND TEAM
Grant Coldstream - Toowoomba (2-1)
Alex Dart - Redlands (2-1)
Emile Conradie - Gold Coast (1-2)
Matt Donaldson - Caboolture (0-3)
Craig Malone - Redlands (2-1)
agreed but not alex dart and not sure about malone.
This week?
Suns V Noosa
GC2 V Logan2
BBI2 V SWM
Twmba V Redlands
Noosa by 30+ (105 - 71)
Logan in an home court upset +5 (77 - 72 around that)
BBI2 +10 (approx 91 to 80)
Tough game in Tbaaa winner will be 1 step closer to finals. Reds will have to control this game throughout to get the win, but I think they can do it. Shame Im not going to watch this one..... (79 - 77)
Whats everyones feeling about this weeks games?
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18-11-09, 00:35
This week?
Suns V Noosa
GC2 V Logan2
BBI2 V SWM
Twmba V Redlands
Noosa by 30+ (105 - 71)
Logan in an home court upset +5 (77 - 72 around that)
BBI2 +10 (approx 91 to 80)
Tough game in Tbaaa winner will be 1 step closer to finals. Reds will have to control this game throughout to get the win, but I think they can do it. Shame Im not going to watch this one..... (79 - 77)
Whats everyones feeling about this weeks games?
noosa by 20+ noosa are very solid team but aggressive and smart play by suns could make this a fair game.
gc by 20+ will be looking for another victory after losing 2 and winning one against sw and a large won at that.
bbi 15 - 30 if bbi play aswell as they have been they should dominate but sw are still capable of getting the w just depends on the night who shows up to play.
tbar to take it by about 10- 15 tbar can light it up from down town and have good transition but again reds are capable of taking this one and upsetting the mountaineers. would be happy to be proven wrong on this one
goodluck to all teams
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18-11-09, 09:21
Suns V Noosa
GC2 V Logan2
BBI2 V SWM
Twmba V Redlands
Noosa by 25
GC2 by 10
BBI2 by 25
Twba by 15
So I thought we should all have a go at posting 1st and 2nd teams from the season so far. Everyone should also take into account teams win/loss.
1ST TEAM
Thomas Wade - Noosa (3-0)
Brandon Holloway - BBI (3-0)
Jack Hunt - Noosa (3-0)
Nathan Farley - Redlands (2-1)
Michael Rickwood - Toowoomba (2-1)
2ND TEAM
Grant Coldstream - Toowoomba (2-1)
Alex Dart - Redlands (2-1)
Emile Conradie - Gold Coast (1-2)
Matt Donaldson - Caboolture (0-3)
Craig Malone - Redlands (2-1)
i realise i was previously all for the idea of selecting 1st and second teams, however
there are players that are far better than the ones you have named that arent performing due to their team. Their are several logan, suns and SW players who are far better than some of these players.
I would also like to know what you are basing this on??
do you have stats??
have you watched all of their games
do you know how they contribute to the team off the court and at trainin
points!
thats what everyone is majoritly basing their opinions on
there is no rebound count or assists or steals or fg% etc (publicly anyway)
for any of us to see.
if you had reason for these choices other than points
i would gladly take my seat.
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18-11-09, 14:32
i realise i was previously all for the idea of selecting 1st and second teams, however
there are players that are far better than the ones you have named that arent performing due to their team. Their are several logan, suns and SW players who are far better than some of these players.
I would also like to know what you are basing this on??
do you have stats??
have you watched all of their games
do you know how they contribute to the team off the court and at trainin
points!
thats what everyone is majoritly basing their opinions on
there is no rebound count or assists or steals or fg% etc (publicly anyway)
for any of us to see.
if you had reason for these choices other than points
i would gladly take my seat.
Mate were just throwing out these things, no need to come out now and say these things i know this is probably to do with points but this is just what it is based on, if players come on and get offended by this then there not smart players they should not come on here and get offended by a site, just worry about playing basketball!
Mate were just throwing out these things, no need to come out now and say these things i know this is probably to do with points but this is just what it is based on, if players come on and get offended by this then there not smart players they should not come on here and get offended by a site, just worry about playing basketball!
Are you kidding? Kids are kids! you dis' em and they do take it personally, in or on any forum!
Personally I dont like the idea of the top players being named in a all star team because of similar reasons the previous poster wrote. You cant put up an accurate top 5/10 when you only watch 1/2 games a week.
But in saying what you have, it might mean that your name is up there and you are happy with that :) if you aren't and your a parent then think about what you just just said.
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18-11-09, 17:24
Mate were just throwing out these things, no need to come out now and say these things i know this is probably to do with points but this is just what it is based on, if players come on and get offended by this then there not smart players they should not come on here and get offended by a site, just worry about playing basketball!
Exactly right. Look at areas to improve and work on your game. Dont be checking up bendoes each week to see what some Div 2 coach or parent or other Div 2 player thinks are the best players especially when the points scored are the only stats available.
Think about how many stops you got last week, how many times your man beat you off the dribble and why, how many block outs and rebounds you got, how many times you made the D make a wrong decision in rotation because you worked hard off the ball...and the list goes on. Work hard and improve these numbers each week and you might see your name up in lights one day on a far more credible time and place than this.
Exactly right. Look at areas to improve and work on your game. Dont be checking up bendoes each week to see what some Div 2 coach or parent or other Div 2 player thinks are the best players especially when the points scored are the only stats available.
Think about how many stops you got last week, how many times your man beat you off the dribble and why, how many block outs and rebounds you got, how many times you made the D make a wrong decision in rotation because you worked hard off the ball...and the list goes on. Work hard and improve these numbers each week and you might see your name up in lights one day on a far more credible time and place than this.
this I agree with, improve for your own sake and your own recognition which will have its own rewards :)
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18-11-09, 19:57
Are you kidding? Kids are kids! you dis' em and they do take it personally, in or on any forum!
dont agree with you here, smart players wont worry about whats on this site in the first place.
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19-11-09, 07:15
dont agree with you here, smart players wont worry about whats on this site in the first place.
smart players don't read bd!
The Doctor
20-11-09, 17:42
smart players don't read bd!
Agreed! Must kids don't care what is written on here.
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20-11-09, 23:48
Suns V Noosa
GC2 V Logan2
BBI2 V SWM
Twmba V Redlands
Noosa by 25
GC2 by 10
BBI2 by 25
Twba by 15
agree with you here, IMO match of the week is bbi vs sw.
Both teams have solid rosters and I believe south west are capable of pull off an upset.
However bbi do boast are strong outfit with them having I believe the only 2 players playing in southern cup in the 23 man state squad. I think bbi by 20+ however southwest could cause an upset.
Mate were just throwing out these things, no need to come out now and say these things i know this is probably to do with points but this is just what it is based on, if players come on and get offended by this then there not smart players they should not come on here and get offended by a site, just worry about playing basketball!
i do agree with players just worrying about playing. But i think i am sensing a small bit of insinuation towards myself being a player?, long time ago my friend.
but how can you say an "ALL" team. I like the idea of giving players credit but just because a player can score doesnt mean he deserves to be in an "ALL" team. By all means continue the all teams but have some other eveidence (or just say top scorers) otherwise its just stupid and quite embarrasin to be saying these players are the best because they simply score the most.
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21-11-09, 13:12
agree with you here, IMO match of the week is bbi vs sw.
Both teams have solid rosters and I believe south west are capable of pull off an upset.
However bbi do boast are strong outfit with them having I believe the only 2 players playing in southern cup in the 23 man state squad. I think bbi by 20+ however southwest could cause an upset.
Who do BBI have in the state squad?
I only no of Brandon, who is the other one? I didnt see anyone else on the list..
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21-11-09, 20:57
Both teams came out very strong and it was evenly matched most of the game, Suns showing great baskets inside. Noosa showing the range from mid range. Last quater shows Noosa pushing it out to 16 but then suns bringing it back to losing by 7 in the last 2 minutes.
Final Score: Noosa 63 Suns 56
Outstanding players of the game were Matt Donaldson from suns (25 points) and Sam Kosovich from Noosa (19 points).
GC2 by 10/11 points, I missed the last minute of play. GC ran the floor very well in the 4th, but Logans impatients cost them the game from what I saw.
GC looked to be playing better than last week tho, came away with a very good win.
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22-11-09, 06:10
Who do BBI have in the state squad?
I only no of Brandon, who is the other one? I didnt see anyone else on the list..
BBI by 13. Excellent game with SWM keeping the score close but with difficult refing making it a hard game to keep the flow going and George Dilla and Christian Lam out with injuries BBI got the win.
Sam and Keenen kept the game together for SW. Nick and #9 strong for BBI.
SW looking forward to meeting them again when team full strength.
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22-11-09, 12:04
BBI by 13. Excellent game with SWM keeping the score close but with difficult refing making it a hard game to keep the flow going and George Dilla and Christian Lam out with injuries BBI got the win.
Sam and Keenen kept the game together for SW. Nick and #9 strong for BBI.
SW looking forward to meeting them again when team full strength.
Reds have still not had a full team from the whole season.
Shall be interesting when they do
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22-11-09, 17:46
BBI by 13. Excellent game with SWM keeping the score close but with difficult refing making it a hard game to keep the flow going and George Dilla and Christian Lam out with injuries BBI got the win.
Sam and Keenen kept the game together for SW. Nick and #9 strong for BBI.
SW looking forward to meeting them again when team full strength.
BBI would have lost by 30 without Nick Dickinson
Only one willing to give up a shot for an assist
Without him they would have lost against Logan, Goldie and SW
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22-11-09, 17:49
BBI would have lost by 30 without Nick Dickinson
Only one willing to give up a shot for an assist
Without him they would have lost against Logan, Goldie and SW
your a joke mate. im pretty sure they still would of won all those games. if you havent seen nicks attitude when he plays its amazing
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22-11-09, 18:50
your a joke mate. im pretty sure they still would of won all those games. if you havent seen nicks attitude when he plays its amazing
I agree, Nick is a good player but lost all of the games? Are we talking about the same Nick who usually jacks shots all game to make 3 or 4?
BBI Silver are a great team, who have a lot of great players.
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22-11-09, 19:02
BBI would have lost by 30 without Nick Dickinson
Only one willing to give up a shot for an assist
Without him they would have lost against Logan, Goldie and SW
pfft, i watched when they versed suns and seriously he aint as great as what your saying here.
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22-11-09, 20:29
Both teams came out very strong and it was evenly matched most of the game, Suns showing great baskets inside. Noosa showing the range from mid range. Last quater shows Noosa pushing it out to 16 but then suns bringing it back to losing by 7 in the last 2 minutes.
Final Score: Noosa 63 Suns 56
Outstanding players of the game were Matt Donaldson from suns (25 points) and Sam Kosovich from Noosa (19 points).
Suns lack alternative scoring option, they need more players contributing to score tally. Top sides have others also contributing to score.
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23-11-09, 00:42
Suns lack alternative scoring option, they need more players contributing to score tally. Top sides have others also contributing to score.
Thats like most sides.
Most sides have on domminate scorer
E.G. Redlands - Nathan Farley or Noosa - Jack Hunt
Every team seem to have it
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23-11-09, 07:04
Thats like most sides.
Most sides have on domminate scorer
E.G. Redlands - Nathan Farley or Noosa - Jack Hunt
Every team seem to have it
Good sides have a number of scorers and spread the points and therefore the defensive difficulty
Thats like most sides.
Most sides have on domminate scorer
E.G. Redlands - Nathan Farley or Noosa - Jack Hunt
Every team seem to have it
All sides do, I dont think there is a team in SC or PL even that doesnt have dominant scorers. Look at the top 15 scorers in the comp there is a rep from every team.
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23-11-09, 22:26
suns v breakers- gc by 15+
sw v redlands- reds by 10 +
logan v toowoomba- toowoomba by 25 +
Noosa v bbi silver- either way 2- 10 point game
thoughts?
suns v breakers- gc by 15+
sw v redlands- reds by 10 +
logan v toowoomba- toowoomba by 25 +
Noosa v bbi silver- either way 2- 10 point game
thoughts?
If suns at home they might just get the win over GC after limiting Noosa to a small score compared to previous weeks.
I think Reds will give SW a real shake up after disappointing loss to Toowoomba, but battle up top between 2 former team mates will be the key to this one, if Dylan wins the battle, reds by under 5.
Toowoomba to win by 10 if Logan get the combos right on the night otherwise it may go out to 20+
I really want to go watch the BBI V Noosa, 1st game since grading, But pick for this week will be BBI to take it out by 10+ :) Noosa didn't shoot well last week against Suns.
The Doctor
24-11-09, 00:45
Good sides have a number of scorers and spread the points and therefore the defensive difficulty
And they are playing in PL.
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24-11-09, 05:16
suns v breakers- gc by 15+
sw v redlands- reds by 10 +
logan v toowoomba- toowoomba by 25 +
Noosa v bbi silver- either way 2- 10 point game
thoughts?
gc by 10
toowoomba by 20
noosa by 5
SW by 10
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24-11-09, 07:37
And they are playing in PL.
Someone left the cabinet key out again
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24-11-09, 13:24
suns v breakers- gc by 15+
sw v redlands- reds by 10 +
logan v toowoomba- toowoomba by 25 +
Noosa v bbi silver- either way 2- 10 point game
thoughts?
I think if suns play as good as they did agianst them at grading they will take the win by 5-10 points
I think Redlands will deffinetly take this one, i think by about 15-20
And No doubt that Tmba should pick up easy win here.
BBI and Noosa should be fantastic game!, but I'm going to have to go with BBI here by 5-10
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25-11-09, 09:23
I think if suns play as good as they did agianst them at grading they will take the win by 5-10 points
I think Redlands will deffinetly take this one, i think by about 15-20
And No doubt that Tmba should pick up easy win here.
BBI and Noosa should be fantastic game!, but I'm going to have to go with BBI here by 5-10
suns v breakers- gc by 15+
sw v redlands- SW by 10 +
logan v toowoomba- toowoomba by 25 +
Noosa v bbi silver- BBI by 8
SW seem to be finding there feet have too many good players for REDS but if they lose its because team work still isnt quite there.
and nothing wrong with a dominant point scorer just depends if they play within the team or for themselves thats what makes the difference between a great player and a dominant scorer
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25-11-09, 22:52
suns v breakers- gc by 15+
sw v redlands- SW by 10 +
logan v toowoomba- toowoomba by 25 +
Noosa v bbi silver- BBI by 8
SW seem to be finding there feet have too many good players for REDS but if they lose its because team work still isnt quite there.
and nothing wrong with a dominant point scorer just depends if they play within the team or for themselves thats what makes the difference between a great player and a dominant scorer
I Think suns will take that one, they kept Noosa to only 7 points, Managed to stay with BBI the whole game and they also beat breakers at grading. But thats just my thoughts, just going by the facts.
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26-11-09, 11:38
Yes Suns have kept high scoring teams to a low scoring game, well done. However their highest score so far this season was 61 points!?? at this level they need to score more than that to win games. So if they can increase they offensive productivity they are well on there way to winning games.
Predictions
Suns to get their offence going and beat breakers by 10.
SW probably a little more desperate for the W then Redlands and with Home court (SW refs)advantage they will win by 8.
Toowoomba look too good for logan. Logan to stay close for the majority but will go down by 15.
Match of the round - bbi vs Noosa. Predicting the game to be close, however im leaning towards BBI's experience to get them over the line BBI by 6.
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26-11-09, 12:22
Thats like most sides.
Most sides have on domminate scorer
E.G. Redlands - Nathan Farley or Noosa - Jack Hunt
Every team seem to have it
It seems that the difference between the top 4 and the bottom 4 sides is that the top 4 sides all have at least 3 players scoring in double figures (it seems that Redlands is still missing their main big man after a 19 point round 1, so that could make a difference if and when he returns), while the bottom 4 teams are struggling to get more than one scoring in double figures.
Predictions
Suns to get their offence going and beat breakers by 10.
SW probably a little more desperate for the W then Redlands and with Home court (SW refs)advantage they will win by 8.
Toowoomba look too good for logan. Logan to stay close for the majority but will go down by 15.
Match of the round - bbi vs Noosa. Predicting the game to be close, however im leaning towards BBI's experience to get them over the line BBI by 6.
Considering this game is at Morayfield, Suns may well get the win, but it will be by less than 10 (Suns will struggle to get a win away from home this season & will continue to push teams @ Morayfield, whether it's the home crowd, or the home refs....) - Suns by 5-10
I don't think desperation has much to do with the SW-Redlands match-up, but both teams will be keen to get the win. Both teams have some great players, however Redlands seem to be able to put the game together a lot more consistently at the moment - REDs by 10-15
Toowoomba is a tough road trip for any team, let alone a team without a win - Toowoomba will dominate a lackluster Logan team by 20-30
BBI & Noosa will probably split wins this season with Noosa to get the win at home next round, but BBI too strong at home this weekend - BBI by 5-10
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26-11-09, 14:43
BBI & Noosa will probably split wins this season with Noosa to get the win at home next round, but BBI too strong at home this weekend - BBI by 5-10
Yep, except Noosa are at home this weekend.
Yep, except Noosa are at home this weekend.
BBI will struggle with the rings at Noosa, hope they have their swish shoes on, lol. The home court advantage is great at Noosa, very similar to Redlands in years gone by. Local knowlege of the rings and croud support giving both teams a points head start in their home games. I would say about 8 to 12 points just in the rim.
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26-11-09, 22:37
BBI will struggle with the rings at Noosa, hope they have their swish shoes on, lol. The home court advantage is great at Noosa, very similar to Redlands in years gone by. Local knowlege of the rings and croud support giving both teams a points head start in their home games. I would say about 8 to 12 points just in the rim.
Home court advantage is overrated at this level.
The only advantage is not having to travel 1-2 hrs.
Best of luck to both teams.
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27-11-09, 08:18
BBI will struggle with the rings at Noosa, hope they have their swish shoes on, lol. The home court advantage is great at Noosa, very similar to Redlands in years gone by. Local knowlege of the rings and croud support giving both teams a points head start in their home games. I would say about 8 to 12 points just in the rim.
yes the rings are outdated. However its not stoping teams from having high scoring games there? the facility (in my opinion) is much better than redlands.
Home court is an advantage for everyteam in the league. I doubt any1 would be willing to give up their home games.
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27-11-09, 09:50
yes the rings are outdated. However its not stoping teams from having high scoring games there? the facility (in my opinion) is much better than redlands.
Home court is an advantage for everyteam in the league. I doubt any1 would be willing to give up their home games.
Home court isnt such a big deal if your good enough. It only becomes a tangible disadvantage when you play at those Associations where home court is interpreted as home reffing/local rules.
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27-11-09, 09:57
Home court isnt such a big deal if your good enough. It only becomes a tangible disadvantage when you play at those Associations where home court is interpreted as home reffing/local rules.
Ahh very true. Take the refeerees etc out of the equation tho and some teams will still have that little extra confidence on their home court, compared to the away team.
This why i like classics, neutral venue and usually the best refs available.
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27-11-09, 10:41
Ahh very true. Take the refeerees etc out of the equation tho and some teams will still have that little extra confidence on their home court, compared to the away team.
This why i like classics, neutral venue and usually the best refs available.
Neutral venue for all teams except 1. 1 team still has a home court advantage at classics as well as the Grading/Carnival and Challenge Rounds. I think at these though most refs lose focus of who is playing who and ref the game, not against any one team.
Wow!!! What a game. SW shot very well ( Keenan 3 x 3pters) in the first 15 mins of the game to take a lead of 12 - 15 pts just before 1/2 time. Reds went on a 10 - 2 run to get back in the game and then continued to chip away and gain a 7 point lead into the fourth. SW scored first with posession and 3 turn overs put SW back in front and it seesawed till 33 seconds to go with Reds down by 1. Great defencive rebounding gave reds a stop and the ball. Reds call a time out with 19 sec on clock from the base line in front court. Well executed base line play hit Dylan ( avenging last years 1 pt loss) on the left wing to drain a never in doubt 3 pointer to give Redlands a well earned win. Great game by both teams, prob best I have seen SW shoot all season ( I have only watched a couple of their games), Reds had to come together and all players put in some fantastic efforts to get their noses in front at F/T by 2 pts. Congrats on a good game to both teams. Awesome specticle to watch.
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28-11-09, 22:01
This certainly was a nail biter, closely contested the whole game it would be suns pushing it out to 11-12 points then GC would bring it back this would happen throughout the game, the last quater showed some stepping up from both teams, Matt Donaldson from suns having a great contribution in the game with Ben stower also stepping up. GC's Kian Fonua showing great dominance in the fourth keeping GC in it. Matt donaldson from suns hitting the free throw in the last few seconds to secure the win by 2.
Final score: 67 suns - 65 GC
If suns at home they might just get the win over GC after limiting Noosa to a small score compared to previous weeks.
I think Reds will give SW a real shake up after disappointing loss to Toowoomba, but battle up top between 2 former team mates will be the key to this one, if Dylan wins the battle, reds by under 5.
Toowoomba to win by 10 if Logan get the combos right on the night otherwise it may go out to 20+
I really want to go watch the BBI V Noosa, 1st game since grading, But pick for this week will be BBI to take it out by 10+ :) Noosa didn't shoot well last week against Suns.
I can confidently say I got 100% for my picks, the margins were pretty good too. Except the BBI V Noosa game, dont think anyone expected a 25 point beating at home. Wonder when the BBI team will hae thier first loss now?
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28-11-09, 23:58
I can confidently say I got 100% for my picks, the margins were pretty good too. Except the BBI V Noosa game, dont think anyone expected a 25 point beating at home. Wonder when the BBI team will hae thier first loss now?
coach.b do you have a life outside bendoes?
Livingthedream
29-11-09, 05:44
Wow...wasnt expecting such a big pts difference in that game
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29-11-09, 13:05
I know it's early in the season, but there were some defining results this round.
1) BBI dominated Noosa @ Noosa - you would have to imagine BBI would get the win at home, so BBI looks the goods for the minor premiership (if Noosa can't get close, nobody will) Well done to Nick who had a scorcher, hope that shuts the critics up.
2) Suns scraping home against GC - GC did well to keep the margin so low @ Morayfield, but it gives Suns 1 more win than Logan, Logan for the Wooden Spoon.
3) Reds in another tight one over SW @ Hibiscus - I thought Reds and SW would split these rounds on a home court basis, but Redlands showed good team play to eat away at SW's lead late in the game. This win may see Reds sneak into the top four come season's end, congratulations particularly to Dylan who iced a massive three pointer with seconds to play to notch the win for Redlands.
4) Toowoomba smashed Logan - this was no surprise to anyone. Unfortunately Logan's combinations don't seem to be working & I can't see where they will get a win. Tough game against Redlands next week won't be it, maybe Suns @ Logan might be there only outside chance.
So predictions for next round
Noosa over GC by 15+
BBI over Toowoomba by 10+ (Only so close due to Toowoomba's fierce home crowd)
SW over Caboolture by 5+ (only home team I'm picking this week)
Redlands over Logan by 10+
This would leave the ladder for the break...
1) BBI
2) Noosa
3/4) Toowoomba/Redlands (depends on percentages, unless it's head-to-head which would put Toowoomba in 3rd)
5) SW
6/7) GC/Caboolture (depends on percentages, unless it's head-to-head which would put Caboolture in 6th)
8) Logan
The ladder would see a small gap forming between the top and bottom four. I know SW has some injury problems, and players away early next season which could see them struggle to maintain 5th. Redlands should have at least one player returning for the resumption of the season, a player that could make a BIG impact on the league & could see Redlands challenge for a top 2 spot. BBI continue to get better and better, and have proved that Noosa is not as good as everyone else thought (I still think they are a great team and this game may have shown them what they need to work on a bit more over the break) and I imagine that they will do the same to Toowoomba next week.
Going out on a limb to make a very early final ladder prediction here...don't hold it against me later on :-)
1) BBI (undefeated)
2) Noosa
3) Redlands
4) Toowoomba
5) SW*
6) Caboolture
7) GC
8) Logan
*Depends on how they handle injury and 'player management'.
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29-11-09, 16:30
[QUOTE=Unregistered;22885]I know it's early in the season, but there were some defining results this round.
1) BBI dominated Noosa @ Noosa - you would have to imagine BBI would get the win at home, so BBI looks the goods for the minor premiership (if Noosa can't get close, nobody will) Well done to Nick who had a scorcher, hope that shuts the critics up.
2) Suns scraping home against GC - GC did well to keep the margin so low @ Morayfield, but it gives Suns 1 more win than Logan, Logan for the Wooden Spoon.
3) Reds in another tight one over SW @ Hibiscus - I thought Reds and SW would split these rounds on a home court basis, but Redlands showed good team play to eat away at SW's lead late in the game. This win may see Reds sneak into the top four come season's end, congratulations particularly to Dylan who iced a massive three pointer with seconds to play to notch the win for Redlands.
4) Toowoomba smashed Logan - this was no surprise to anyone. Unfortunately Logan's combinations don't seem to be working & I can't see where they will get a win. Tough game against Redlands next week won't be it, maybe Suns @ Logan might be there only outside chance.
So predictions for next round
Noosa over GC by 15+
BBI over Toowoomba by 10+ (Only so close due to Toowoomba's fierce home crowd)
SW over Caboolture by 5+ (only home team I'm picking this week)
Redlands over Logan by 10+
Redlands are without there backbone ( Nathan Farley ) against Logan, could hurt them a fare bit
Thoughts?
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29-11-09, 18:23
I agree with the above post. BBI look to strong this year. I caught the game yesterday and I was impressed! BBI were minus Brandon I believe and still came out on top by 20+. Nick did have a good game, however I thought he took a lot of shots. Overall I enjoyed the game a lot!
BBI vs Noosa grand final IMO.
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29-11-09, 21:07
I agree with the above post. BBI look to strong this year. I caught the game yesterday and I was impressed! BBI were minus Brandon I believe and still came out on top by 20+. Nick did have a good game, however I thought he took a lot of shots. Overall I enjoyed the game a lot!
BBI vs Noosa grand final IMO.
A lot of shots? I would have to disagree
Would have shot 60+%
All in all good team game by BBI
Strong statement going into Noosa and coming up big
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30-11-09, 09:44
Guys i thought we could talk about this, who do you think as a player has really shocked you so far in how he has been playing, like lets say you did not expect this from him. Like this is not the best player in the comp but a player who has shocked everyone in his playing.
thoughts???
"Redlands are without there backbone ( Nathan Farley ) against Logan, could hurt them a fare bit"
Redlands qualified for SC with Nathan only playing 1 and a half games out of 4. Every time Redlands lose someone there is another player to step up in their place. Yeah we lose a scorer, but beware of the 'sleeping giants'. Just look at how the scoring is being spread out a little more as each round goes by. Redlands very focused after their loss in Tba.
Is anyone else a bit disalusioned with the carnival round? We play the other top 4 sides there, has to be the hardest draw I think. If they come out on top I think it will be an extraordinary effort. BBI and Noosa on the first day, Tough day at the office.
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01-12-09, 09:13
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Is anyone else a bit disalusioned with the carnival round? We play the other top 4 sides there, has to be the hardest draw I think. If they come out on top I think it will be an extraordinary effort. BBI and Noosa on the first day, Tough day at the office.
I think the carnival round is a good idea. It shortends the season (slightly), and provides some tournament ball which is good for classics prep. I guess its just the luck of the draw who you play against? Its not BQs fault that BBI & Noosa are tough teams. Prehaps you are lucky to be playing them in a carnival, as there is different prep and conditions for teams to consider, and some teams fair better in carnivals than in 1 off games. Winning tournament games is a bit trickier to winning games in the home/ away format.
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01-12-09, 10:36
i was just looking at all the results for the season so far.
here are my predictions this week:
GC vs Noosa- I think everyone is talking up Noosa a bit to much, they have not been playing the basketball i was expecting, but still they are a great team i think Noosa by 10-15.
Twmba vs BBI- I think this game will be a great one to watch im wondering if BBI will ever get a loss this season. Don't think its going to be done by Twmba tho, BBI too strong. BBI by 15
SWM vs Suns-This one will be an interesting game to see, For this one im not sure though because GC have beaten this team and then suns have beaten GC so not to sure. But im going to have to take a guess here SW are at home so im going to give it to them by 5.
Logan vs Redlands- Redlands deffinetly for the win here. Logan have not been playing good enough to seem like there going to get any wins this season. Red's by 30
Match of the Week- SW vs Suns, should be very close! and a great game to watch. If Suns can continue to get 3 or more players in double digits like they did against GC then they may just get the win. Twmba vs BBI should be a great game as well, If Twmba can shoot the lights out like they have against many teams, it may be closer then i suspect.
Thoughts???
i was just looking at all the results for the season so far.
here are my predictions this week:
GC vs Noosa- I think everyone is talking up Noosa a bit to much, they have not been playing the basketball i was expecting, but still they are a great team i think Noosa by 10-15.
Twmba vs BBI- I think this game will be a great one to watch im wondering if BBI will ever get a loss this season. Don't think its going to be done by Twmba tho, BBI too strong. BBI by 15
SWM vs Suns-This one will be an interesting game to see, For this one im not sure though because GC have beaten this team and then suns have beaten GC so not to sure. But im going to have to take a guess here SW are at home so im going to give it to them by 5.
Logan vs Redlands- Redlands deffinetly for the win here. Logan have not been playing good enough to seem like there going to get any wins this season. Red's by 30
Match of the Week- SW vs Suns, should be very close! and a great game to watch. If Suns can continue to get 3 or more players in double digits like they did against GC then they may just get the win. Twmba vs BBI should be a great game as well, If Twmba can shoot the lights out like they have against many teams, it may be closer then i suspect.
Thoughts???
Noosa by 20+
BBI by 10+
SW by 20+
Redlands by 4+ Prob in OT
The Doctor
04-12-09, 07:06
Noosa by 20+
BBI by 10+
SW by 20+
Redlands by 4+ Prob in OT
With the Reds pipping out SW last week & crazy Nigel's coaching you would have to put the Reds as favourites by 12+
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04-12-09, 08:45
I think the carnival round is a good idea. It shortends the season (slightly), and provides some tournament ball which is good for classics prep. I guess its just the luck of the draw who you play against? Its not BQs fault that BBI & Noosa are tough teams. Prehaps you are lucky to be playing them in a carnival, as there is different prep and conditions for teams to consider, and some teams fair better in carnivals than in 1 off games. Winning tournament games is a bit trickier to winning games in the home/ away format.
Personally I think it is idiotic , Brisbane comp is not a tournament it is a week to week competition and it shows a lack of planning and foresight on the behalf of BQ. (again)
Start the comp 2 weeks earlier and run it closer to the Xmas break, having a 8 week break in the middle of the season is crazy.
Most teams seasons will be determined over the course of 2 days , there is no home court advantage. Fatigue and injury will determine results not the best team over the weekend.
Lose you best player in game 1 and you will pay for the next 3 games.
I cant wait for the posts after this has been done and the amount of dripping that will occur about the unfairness of the whole thing.
The amazing thing is that everyone goes along with this stupidity like a mob of sheep.
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04-12-09, 09:10
Personally I think it is idiotic , Brisbane comp is not a tournament it is a week to week competition and it shows a lack of planning and foresight on the behalf of BQ. (again)
Start the comp 2 weeks earlier and run it closer to the Xmas break, having a 8 week break in the middle of the season is crazy.
Most teams seasons will be determined over the course of 2 days , there is no home court advantage. Fatigue and injury will determine results not the best team over the weekend.
Lose you best player in game 1 and you will pay for the next 3 games.
I cant wait for the posts after this has been done and the amount of dripping that will occur about the unfairness of the whole thing.
The amazing thing is that everyone goes along with this stupidity like a mob of sheep.
Gee, Have a whinge.
You can't really run the comp closer to Christmas. Schools Nationals is next week, NITP camp is next weekend, and families start going away left, right and centre. It's hard enough to keep training going. Also as this is the only break most of our players get all year, a short break is nice, even if it's unfortunate it's mid season.
The risk of Injury is always there, but a good team can cope with one player going down. For the most part, I expect results to stay true throughout the weekend. Brissy will not get beat, Noosa will be tough too, Toowoomba should get 2+, depending who they play.
And as for posts after the fact, it will just be losers like yourself who can't get the job done on the floor who come on here and bitch. How is it unfair. Unfair that everyone has to play the same number of games in the same time frame, with the same amount of rest. Unpleasant maybe, but not unfair. And I say that as the coach of a team who has to play two Brissy teams at Brisbane during the tournament, bring on he challenge.
Gee, Have a whinge.
You can't really run the comp closer to Christmas. Schools Nationals is next week, NITP camp is next weekend, and families start going away left, right and centre. It's hard enough to keep training going. Also as this is the only break most of our players get all year, a short break is nice, even if it's unfortunate it's mid season.
The risk of Injury is always there, but a good team can cope with one player going down. For the most part, I expect results to stay true throughout the weekend. Brissy will not get beat, Noosa will be tough too, Toowoomba should get 2+, depending who they play.
And as for posts after the fact, it will just be losers like yourself who can't get the job done on the floor who come on here and bitch. How is it unfair. Unfair that everyone has to play the same number of games in the same time frame, with the same amount of rest. Unpleasant maybe, but not unfair. And I say that as the coach of a team who has to play two Brissy teams at Brisbane during the tournament, bring on he challenge.
Maybe not unfair, but if the games followed the flow of the already completed games, I see Redlands should have Suns and GC on the final day, not Suns and Toowoomba! I think that part of the draw is a little off.
On another note, are all the Suns games counted as home games as it is at their stadium? That should be figured when organising a Carnival round, there will be a home court advantage there for sure.
Next subject.
Why do we run our BQJBC season over Christmas? Why not say April to September, Classics at mid to end of September and the Nationals is in October? Makes sense to me, no 8 week break in the middle of the season, no long period between State Champs and Nationals????? Oh and lets not forget about the heat in Qld.
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04-12-09, 11:17
Why do we run our BQJBC season over Christmas? Why not say April to September, Classics at mid to end of September and the Nationals is in October? Makes sense to me, no 8 week break in the middle of the season, no long period between State Champs and Nationals????? Oh and lets not forget about the heat in Qld.
Mainly because of QBL season runs during this time, and most associations dont have the resources to run both at the same time.
Mainly because of QBL season runs during this time, and most associations dont have the resources to run both at the same time.
OK, so how does that affect BQJBC players?
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04-12-09, 11:32
OK, so how does that affect BQJBC players?
It affects BQJBC because many of the Coaches of these teams are involved in the QBL programs as Players or Coaches, so hard for them to do both, and it would often be the kids who miss out. Court availabilty also becomes an issue for both groups.
Another reason Rep is in Summer is to allow the few that play AFL/League as well the opportunity to play both and not choose just one at a young age.
I like your suggestion though Coach B and if ther's a way to make it work, would be good. Could also mean a better break for our top athletes who IMO play too much right now.
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04-12-09, 11:50
Maybe not unfair, but if the games followed the flow of the already completed games, I see Redlands should have Suns and GC on the final day, not Suns and Toowoomba! I think that part of the draw is a little off.
On another note, are all the Suns games counted as home games as it is at their stadium? That should be figured when organising a Carnival round, there will be a home court advantage there for sure.
Next subject.
Why do we run our BQJBC season over Christmas? Why not say April to September, Classics at mid to end of September and the Nationals is in October? Makes sense to me, no 8 week break in the middle of the season, no long period between State Champs and Nationals????? Oh and lets not forget about the heat in Qld.
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These games are counted as a neutral venue so no home games for the hosts associations.
As for April to Septmber .....yes yes line it up with Vic and NSW
It affects BQJBC because many of the Coaches of these teams are involved in the QBL programs as Players or Coaches, so hard for them to do both, and it would often be the kids who miss out. Court availabilty also becomes an issue for both groups.
Another reason Rep is in Summer is to allow the few that play AFL/League as well the opportunity to play both and not choose just one at a young age.
I like your suggestion though Coach B and if ther's a way to make it work, would be good. Could also mean a better break for our top athletes who IMO play too much right now.
Agree with you there
My Daughter has played 2 years str8 now with no more than 2 weeks off in that 2 years due to Nationals, State Schools etc. She is only 13 for goodness sakes. I tell yo what will happen, these kids get to 16 -18yrs and they have out grown the game due to their lives being saturated by trainings etc. We are seeing it with the U18 Womens comp, U20s etc already. You can play at an elite level but still have a reasonable break throughout the season. Even Elite footballers have 2 months off a year. They do a basic fitness regime in the off season so the are not out of shape come December when preseason training starts. I am monitoring her very closely as she has a few injuries, but if the team doesnt break then I will be imposing one for her. (with coachs Blessing of course).
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04-12-09, 12:40
The reason everything moved in u18s is because of world champs.
Once upon a time BQJBC ran for 7 weeks, broke over xmas then came back for another 7wks. You then had finals and 2 weeks later were at Classics (in April), then Nationals mid year
World champs are now mid year, so nationals had to come forward to April. hence classics got the boot. everyone voted against Jan classics sthey ended up in June, June got a lot of complaints too agfer the fact, due to the huge break between BQJBC (finished march) and classics.
So now we are trying may long weekend. what annoys me is insteead of draggin BQJBC out so it ends closer to classics they have cut it short by introducing this carnival round. All this does is give us another big break between BQJBC and classics
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These games are counted as a neutral venue so no home games for the hosts associations.
As for April to Septmber .....yes yes line it up with Vic and NSW
But thats not right. They are playing at home, not a nuetral venue. Their own refs, their own boards and facilities. It should be classified as a home game. Just my opinion anyways. Nothing will change it so Ill get over it now.
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04-12-09, 13:59
But thats not right. They are playing at home, not a nuetral venue. Their own refs, their own boards and facilities. It should be classified as a home game. Just my opinion anyways. Nothing will change it so Ill get over it now.
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It's not exactly fair, but I guess thats the perk for hosting. Every association that nominated is hosting a challenge, which means the rest of us (my association included) didn't nominate so none of our teams get that advantage. I will say, even before the draw was done and BQ were calling for nominations to host, it was stated that Carnival games would not count as Home Games, so has always been that way. The draw is structured that all teams get equal Home/Away games plus the carnival. So in an eight team comp, it's 5 Home, 5 away and 4 Carnival games.
At least Suns aren't a dominant team in your comp so the home court issue is not huge. My team's in u16's, we play at Brissy, and their are two Brisbane Teams in our comp, so two with a Home Court advantage, and of course my team plays them both. At least we get the chance to beat them on their home floor.
It's not exactly fair, but I guess thats the perk for hosting. Every association that nominated is hosting a challenge, which means the rest of us (my association included) didn't nominate so none of our teams get that advantage. I will say, even before the draw was done and BQ were calling for nominations to host, it was stated that Carnival games would not count as Home Games, so has always been that way. The draw is structured that all teams get equal Home/Away games plus the carnival. So in an eight team comp, it's 5 Home, 5 away and 4 Carnival games.
At least Suns aren't a dominant team in your comp so the home court issue is not huge. My team's in u16's, we play at Brissy, and their are two Brisbane Teams in our comp, so two with a Home Court advantage, and of course my team plays them both. At least we get the chance to beat them on their home floor.
Ouch, I think I'll shut up now! I feel for you coach. Good luck! :)
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04-12-09, 14:13
Agree with you there
My Daughter has played 2 years str8 now with no more than 2 weeks off in that 2 years due to Nationals, State Schools etc. She is only 13 for goodness sakes. I tell yo what will happen, these kids get to 16 -18yrs and they have out grown the game due to their lives being saturated by trainings etc. We are seeing it with the U18 Womens comp, U20s etc already. You can play at an elite level but still have a reasonable break throughout the season. Even Elite footballers have 2 months off a year. They do a basic fitness regime in the off season so the are not out of shape come December when preseason training starts. I am monitoring her very closely as she has a few injuries, but if the team doesnt break then I will be imposing one for her. (with coachs Blessing of course).
the great players spend 10,000 hours or more as a junior training and playing the games, if your kids want to break thru to the elite level then this is the commitment that is required. Elite football players still undertake forms of training in their downtime. running a few carnivals evry now and then does not cut it.
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05-12-09, 22:31
With the Reds pipping out SW last week & crazy Nigel's coaching you would have to put the Reds as favourites by 12+
Redlands by 18 over logan any other results
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05-12-09, 22:44
BBI by 28 over Toowoomba. Absolute dominate performance, with at least 8 BBI players reaching double digits, classic team game.
Redlands by 18 over logan any other results
Well my 4+ was blown out of the water. 5 pts up with 4 mins to go I thought it was right, but a great 4 mins of fantastic team work saw Reds smash Logan by 18.
Thanks to the logan boys and the officials for a great game to watch.
BBI look like the team to take out SC, I;m sure we will all be extra keen to try and get a win against them.
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06-12-09, 06:20
Well looks like the Nathan Farley theory got blown out of he water last night with Redlands showing they have a big inside and outside game with huge performances from Alex Dart ad Dylan Desmarchelier, both chipping in with 32 point games. Dylan lit it up from outside with a handful of massive threes as well as some impressive drives to the basket, while Alex Dart was unstoppable near the rim and got himself to the free-throw line well.
With BBI looking scary, Noosa struggling away from home & SW finally turning in a performance we knew they were capable of it sure sets us up an interesting second half of the season - just a shame we have the carnival round to mess things up?!
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07-12-09, 07:52
"Quite the coach" I don't think so. This team and its players have gone backwards in a big way. Rep teams should get better even if they are not winning. Players who were good last year are now being made to look stupid. His arrogance and petulance don't help and it seems that nepotism rules!!.i agree with the comments made about the coach regarding the substitution methods however i have heard from players and parents he is quite the coach. This alone stil doesnt make up for the terriblr substitutions .
He takes out Kyle Rodger and Calleb far to much in important situations. 2 of these 3 should be on the court at all times within reason.
I also think that brisbane is farrr to over rated if i had to pick a winner based on grading it would be noosa. Theyre pg 4 is a great player and makes the right decisions. Im still not convinced about SW Keenen has a huge head and ego and its followed closely by Christians. Syd needs to use Bruce and George D more extensivley. Acctually come to think of it how bout a swap of coaches Logans for Sid hahah.
I also heard a rumour that they will be picking an "all team" for the leaue naming the top players for each posotion. a greta idea i think
The only players i could say will bo deffinatley on the team will be
5 for logan and 4 for noosa.
dunno y everyone is hating on this guy form logan for trying to be a pg??
he by far led the grading competition in almost all catergories ???
So thats the 'half way mark' of the season and I think we all see the clear favourite to take out the SC championship (BBI Silver).
Teams are on the improve across the whole comp with Suns and GC nearly upsetting the preseason favourites Noosa. Wow that would have really made a mess of the ladder if they had both beat Noosa.
I dont see the ladder changing much, but SW will make a charge to the finals, prob miss out by 1 pt in the end. Redlands to move into third after Noosa and Toowoomba encounter a couple of upsets next year.
Other than that I still think the final will be BBI V Noosa.
Thoughts everyone??????
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08-12-09, 16:52
So thats the 'half way mark' of the season and I think we all see the clear favourite to take out the SC championship (BBI Silver).
Teams are on the improve across the whole comp with Suns and GC nearly upsetting the preseason favourites Noosa. Wow that would have really made a mess of the ladder if they had both beat Noosa.
I dont see the ladder changing much, but SW will make a charge to the finals, prob miss out by 1 pt in the end. Redlands to move into third after Noosa and Toowoomba encounter a couple of upsets next year.
Other than that I still think the final will be BBI V Noosa.
Thoughts everyone??????
I am seriously having other thoughts about Noosa being in the final, i think you will see some of the teams like Twmba and Redlands beat them. Like Suns and GC even kept them to a 6 point win. I dont see them in the final. But then again they might just prove me wrong
thoughts??
I am seriously having other thoughts about Noosa being in the final, i think you will see some of the teams like Twmba and Redlands beat them. Like Suns and GC even kept them to a 6 point win. I dont see them in the final. But then again they might just prove me wrong
thoughts??
Maybe teams are wising up to their strengths but the break may see them recoup and come out strong again. I know our loss to them wont happen again, we really did have a shocker final qtr that handed them the game.
If Redlands get to the semi verse Noosa or Toowoomba Im pretty sure they will be in the final against BBI, but they will need to move into 2nd or 3rd on the ladder for that to happen.
I dont think we can count out a late surge from SW iether, they really have the makings of a final 4 team.
I guess we'll see in about 4 months :)
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08-12-09, 21:47
For me there is no doubt that BBI will finish at the top, probably unbeaten, however the next 3 is anyone's guess.
With the small break they have over the rest of the pack Noosa, Toowoomba & Redlands look hard to overtake, however injury or poor player management over the carnival weekend could see a shake-up.
I agree with Coach B that SW could break into the top 4 with some results going their way, but after watching Coastal and GC I really can't see them making it.
Redlands are looking strong with 3 of the top 8 scorers and the 2nd best offensive record in SC, the return of 'Monster Malone' and their other guard could see them crack the top 2, putting them in a great position for the finals (if they can play stronger defense).
As Coach B mentioned, I would not write Noosa off, they were very effective at the beginning of the season & will be looking to start the second half of the season the same way. Toowoomba is a mixed bag, tough at home, but a bit flaky away, the carnival weekend could see them do it tough. If that is the case, as I mentioned before, look out for SW...
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08-12-09, 22:45
I am seriously having other thoughts about Noosa being in the final, i think you will see some of the teams like Twmba and Redlands beat them. Like Suns and GC even kept them to a 6 point win. I dont see them in the final. But then again they might just prove me wrong
thoughts??
yes noosa had a very slim win 4 points gold coast were leading by 15 with a quater to go noosa arent as good as every one thinks? or maybe its gold coast who are the dark horses?
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09-12-09, 11:58
yes noosa had a very slim win 4 points gold coast were leading by 15 with a quater to go noosa arent as good as every one thinks? or maybe its gold coast who are the dark horses?
Or maybe they just arean't playing that good as of late... They're winning games, regardless of the margins. Hard to argue against a 5-1 record.
yes noosa had a very slim win 4 points gold coast were leading by 15 with a quater to go noosa arent as good as every one thinks? or maybe its gold coast who are the dark horses?
Well I am not going to argue with that, Maybe the top 4 will all go on a losing streak and the Suns or GC or even Logan will win SC , anything can happen :)
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09-12-09, 20:45
Well I am not going to argue with that, Maybe the top 4 will all go on a losing streak and the Suns or GC or even Logan will win SC , anything can happen :)
Lots happening outside of BQJBC over the carnival weekend; will be suprised if all teams have a full roster. Some upsets may be in the wind!
Lots happening outside of BQJBC over the carnival weekend; will be suprised if all teams have a full roster. Some upsets may be in the wind!
Really? Whats happening? Whos going to be missing? Where are they going?
The Doctor
09-12-09, 22:52
Really? Whats happening? Whos going to be missing? Where are they going?
Are you still awake Billy?
Are you still awake Billy?
LOL, Barely.... :)
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10-12-09, 17:56
yes noosa had a very slim win 4 points gold coast were leading by 15 with a quater to go noosa arent as good as every one thinks? or maybe its gold coast who are the dark horses?
Well considering Suns beat GC i would say they would be the dark horses
here this is how i think the season will end.
1)BBI silver
2)Redlands
3)Noosa
4)Twmba
5)SW
6)Suns
7)GC
8)Logan
i might even swap Suns and SW over, i saw Suns vs SW at SW and suns looked like they could of beaten them but once again there lack of skill coming from there bench out them behind i would expect to see Suns win when SW come to Morayfield. But i could be wrong because SW are very strong could even take the 4 spot.
BBI will deffinetly take SC out though.
Final will be in my eyes: BBI vs Redlands
i think Redlands are a stronger team then Noosa, i have not veen impressed by there performance at all and i expect to see Redlands stepping it up in the next part of this season.
Thoughts?
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10-12-09, 21:07
Well considering Suns beat GC i would say they would be the dark horses
here this is how i think the season will end.
1)BBI silver
2)Redlands
3)Noosa
4)Twmba
5)SW
6)Suns
7)GC
8)Logan
i might even swap Suns and SW over, i saw Suns vs SW at SW and suns looked like they could of beaten them but once again there lack of skill coming from there bench out them behind i would expect to see Suns win when SW come to Morayfield. But i could be wrong because SW are very strong could even take the 4 spot.
BBI will deffinetly take SC out though.
Final will be in my eyes: BBI vs Redlands
i think Redlands are a stronger team then Noosa, i have not veen impressed by there performance at all and i expect to see Redlands stepping it up in the next part of this season.
Thoughts?
gc could have beaten noosa easily they beat south west and have had bad games latley
gc are still a strong team and will not come in at 7th or 8th??!
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