U16 Girls Premier League 10/11

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Bit of a worry only 49 shots for the game and 33 turnovers.

Take the win though.

Maybe its because they need to look at their starting line-up. I thought they wanted to do well not just make up numbers

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Maybe its because they need to look at their starting line-up. I thought they wanted to do well not just make up numbers

Maybe they need to look at their team as a whole, not taking anything away from the all the talented players they have in the team, but seems like we have too many bigs and not enought strong guards to get the ball to the bigs. Not many shots taken at all from inside the key way and not many field goals overall. Maybe in the next few games, their decision to have a lot of TALLS will see them through???

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Maybe they need to look at their team as a whole, not taking anything away from the all the talented players they have in the team, but seems like we have too many bigs and not enought strong guards to get the ball to the bigs. Not many shots taken at all from inside the key way and not many field goals overall. Maybe in the next few games, their decision to have a lot of TALLS will see them through???

I doubt that very much because some of the Talls didn't really play well most of last season. No good having height if they can't get their hands on the ball.

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Maybe they need to look at their team as a whole, not taking anything away from the all the talented players they have in the team, but seems like we have too many bigs and not enought strong guards to get the ball to the bigs. Not many shots taken at all from inside the key way and not many field goals overall. Maybe in the next few games, their decision to have a lot of TALLS will see them through???

It is always a delicate argument in basketball whether to pick unskilled bigs over strong skilled guards. Selectors always go with bigs because it is a big sport. They should be looking at balanced teams that can win games. If that is a combination of 6 guards and 4 bigs so be it. Good coaches play to the strengths of the most talented players at their disposal. When you have 2 centers that can't contribute on the scoreboad and have picked guards with no outside game, you get a mediocre team at best.

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Girls won their first game by 2 :)

In recent years NZ usually come last in the whole tournament lets hope the Qlders can improve as the tournament goes on though I see the lost to NSW Country as well. Do they have any other athletic dynamic players beside Wallace

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In recent years NZ usually come last in the whole tournament lets hope the Qlders can improve as the tournament goes on though I see the lost to NSW Country as well. Do they have any other athletic dynamic players beside Wallace

What about NT? I would argue that they are more than likely the wooden spooners at more nationals than any other team.

South girls crushed WA country by 30 today, and I saw that WA country only lost to perinial powerhouse SA Metro by 1. Qld south are looking good to me, so far.

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In recent years NZ usually come last in the whole tournament lets hope the Qlders can improve as the tournament goes on though I see the lost to NSW Country as well. Do they have any other athletic dynamic players beside Wallace

Too many bigs, not enough spe^^^^^^t guards blah blah blah. How about getting some shots in. Look at the stats. If they got half of their shots in they would have beaten nsw country.

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Too many bigs, not enough spe^^^^^^t guards blah blah blah. How about getting some shots in. Look at the stats. If they got half of their shots in they would have beaten nsw country.

Hear hear, instead of making crap comments about specific positions (odds on comments are by a disgruntled parent of a guard???) how about making positive comments about the team that's there.

The stats on the web page are great and they show we're getting lots of possession, defending and rebounding well, what we're not doing is getting our shots in, way too many misses plus when we get a free throw, it's very important we score and we're not doing that either. That's got nothing at all to do with the positions played by specific players, maybe it's just an off day, hope so, poor coach, what do you do?.

Let's all get behind the team that's there and make positive encouraging comments so as to let them have the best experience they can possibly have. These are developing players after all, not adult players.

Lets all remember that the child plays the game, parents don't, the job of parents is to make positive encouraging comments, not to take cheap shots because their child didn;t make the team

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Hear hear, instead of making crap comments about specific positions (odds on comments are by a disgruntled parent of a guard???) how about making positive comments about the team that's there.

The stats on the web page are great and they show we're getting lots of possession, defending and rebounding well, what we're not doing is getting our shots in, way too many misses plus when we get a free throw, it's very important we score and we're not doing that either. That's got nothing at all to do with the positions played by specific players, maybe it's just an off day, hope so, poor coach, what do you do?.

Let's all get behind the team that's there and make positive encouraging comments so as to let them have the best experience they can possibly have. These are developing players after all, not adult players.

Lets all remember that the child plays the game, parents don't, the job of parents is to make positive encouraging comments, not to take cheap shots because their child didn;t make the team

Here! Here!

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Hear hear, instead of making crap comments about specific positions (odds on comments are by a disgruntled parent of a guard???) how about making positive comments about the team that's there.

The stats on the web page are great and they show we're getting lots of possession, defending and rebounding well, what we're not doing is getting our shots in, way too many misses plus when we get a free throw, it's very important we score and we're not doing that either. That's got nothing at all to do with the positions played by specific players, maybe it's just an off day, hope so, poor coach, what do you do?.

Let's all get behind the team that's there and make positive encouraging comments so as to let them have the best experience they can possibly have. These are developing players after all, not adult players.

Lets all remember that the child plays the game, parents don't, the job of parents is to make positive encouraging comments, not to take cheap shots because their child didn;t make the team

I thought this was a forum to discuss players and teams in U16 Girls basketball. Since the state team is the pinnacle for these girls, I thought that the selection process and positive/negative merits of players selected was worth debating. We should be questioning why some players that were picked are not performing, considering they have won the spot from other girls. So far the girls have done well beating teams around their level. Kristy is a standout performer at local level so it's great to see her doing well at Nationals.

If you add the rebounds from the two centers, who get a lot of court time, they would total about 20th on the avg rebounders list and neither add much to the score board. In the last game not one 3 point shot was attempted, fair enough going through the bigs as that is why they were selected, but what is the point in having a shooting guard that can't change up play by attempting and hitting some 3's.

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I thought this was a forum to discuss players and teams in U16 Girls basketball. Since the state team is the pinnacle for these girls, I thought that the selection process and positive/negative merits of players selected was worth debating. We should be questioning why some players that were picked are not performing, considering they have won the spot from other girls. So far the girls have done well beating teams around their level. Kristy is a standout performer at local level so it's great to see her doing well at Nationals.

If you add the rebounds from the two centers, who get a lot of court time, they would total about 20th on the avg rebounders list and neither add much to the score board. In the last game not one 3 point shot was attempted, fair enough going through the bigs as that is why they were selected, but what is the point in having a shooting guard that can't change up play by attempting and hitting some 3's.

You keep referring to the two centers , I presume you're talking about Maddie and Emily . If you saw any training sessions leading up to nationals would you please explain to me where a center is going to get shot .. certainly not from a post feed ... You can quote rebounding stats .. fine .. you might also might like to look at turn overs ... While we're talking training sessions ... the lack of intensity and responsibility for errors was hard to watch ... we always talk about how good the Victorians are ,well when are we going to start preparing our kids properly so we at least have a fighting chance .... I am I also to assume from your constant reference to the two centers , you would go to nationals without two centers .... wow ... glad you're not the coach .. I'm quite prepared to put my name to this post ..as soon as you do

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I thought this was a forum to discuss players and teams in U16 Girls basketball. Since the state team is the pinnacle for these girls, I thought that the selection process and positive/negative merits of players selected was worth debating. We should be questioning why some players that were picked are not performing, considering they have won the spot from other girls. So far the girls have done well beating teams around their level. Kristy is a standout performer at local level so it's great to see her doing well at Nationals.

If you add the rebounds from the two centers, who get a lot of court time, they would total about 20th on the avg rebounders list and neither add much to the score board. In the last game not one 3 point shot was attempted, fair enough going through the bigs as that is why they were selected, but what is the point in having a shooting guard that can't change up play by attempting and hitting some 3's.

going through the bigs does not appear to be what the set plays are about The bigs must be doing something right to keep getting their court time.. Dont be so negative from afar!

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I thought this was a forum to discuss players and teams in U16 Girls basketball. Since the state team is the pinnacle for these girls, I thought that the selection process and positive/negative merits of players selected was worth debating. We should be questioning why some players that were picked are not performing, considering they have won the spot from other girls. So far the girls have done well beating teams around their level. Kristy is a standout performer at local level so it's great to see her doing well at Nationals.

If you add the rebounds from the two centers, who get a lot of court time, they would total about 20th on the avg rebounders list and neither add much to the score board. In the last game not one 3 point shot was attempted, fair enough going through the bigs as that is why they were selected, but what is the point in having a shooting guard that can't change up play by attempting and hitting some 3's.

Spoken like a true guard...

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going through the bigs does not appear to be what the set plays are about The bigs must be doing something right to keep getting their court time.. Dont be so negative from afar!

They are right in the tournament and have a huge game tomorrow, potentially could be in the top 4.
At least wait until its all over before everyone tears it apart with analysis through statistics.

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going through the bigs does not appear to be what the set plays are about The bigs must be doing something right to keep getting their court time.. Dont be so negative from afar!

The plays were to include the bigs, however there appears to be only 1 big doing her job. The others are turning over and having trouble finding the basket. An average of 2-4 points per game seems a little low.

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They are right in the tournament and have a huge game tomorrow, potentially could be in the top 4.
At least wait until its all over before everyone tears it apart with analysis through statistics.

Very big game today. If they win they have a chance to win the title. Lose and they drop down to the also rans.

Fingers crossed.

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Very big game today. If they win they have a chance to win the title. Lose and they drop down to the also rans.

Fingers crossed.

Good luck! Although I think if they finish within 20 they will be doing well..

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They lost today does that mean they will playing off for 5th or 6th place?

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They lost today does that mean they will playing off for 5th or 6th place?

no hope wa beat nz

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no hope wa beat nz

Qld can still make top 4. If both Qld and NZ win tomorrow's early matches NSW Country have nothing to play for, even if they win! All 3 teams on same win/ loss ratio.Three way tie Qld beat NZ so should finish 2nd in their pool.

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Qld can still make top 4. If both Qld and NZ win tomorrow's early matches NSW Country have nothing to play for, even if they win! All 3 teams on same win/ loss ratio.Three way tie Qld beat NZ so should finish 2nd in their pool.

If it's a 3 way tie? I think NZ would finish 2nd.

QLD beat NZ by 2
NSW beat QLD by 11
NZ beat NSW by 11

But NSW will have nothing to play for in the last game, so could lose. If so QLD would go through.

Heres hoping.

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Qld can still make top 4. If both Qld and NZ win tomorrow's early matches NSW Country have nothing to play for, even if they win! All 3 teams on same win/ loss ratio.Three way tie Qld beat NZ so should finish 2nd in their pool.

Actually, if all 3 teams finish on 5-2, I think it's NZ that go through on for/against (+9), over NSW Country (0) and QLD South (-9). I could be wrong, but if it goes by the same rules as State Championships, it's NZ going through.

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Qld can still make top 4. If both Qld and NZ win tomorrow's early matches NSW Country have nothing to play for, even if they win! All 3 teams on same win/ loss ratio.Three way tie Qld beat NZ so should finish 2nd in their pool.

So if NSW Country win and are on the same points as QLD South and NZ. How does the calculation work to put QLD South in 2nd?

NSW C. beat QLD South
QLD South beat NZ
NZ beat NSW C.

VIC C. beat everyone!

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isn't it pts% from the games between the teams that are tied?

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The plays were to include the bigs, however there appears to be only 1 big doing her job. The others are turning over and having trouble finding the basket. An average of 2-4 points per game seems a little low.

I don't believe this statement because if that were the case then why does the coach continue to start with girls who appear not to perform. Surely give the other girls a go if the original starting line-up isn't performing!

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isn't it pts% from the games between the teams that are tied?
Correct.... and the points taken into consideration for for/against are ONLY the ones that were scored in those 3 games that involved the 3 teams...... not the entire tournament.

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Correct.... and the points taken into consideration for for/against are ONLY the ones that were scored in those 3 games that involved the 3 teams...... not the entire tournament.

The way I see it is that the only way the girls can make the medal round is if NSWC lose today and we win. In a three way tie with NZ being the other team we lose out and NZ advance as they have the best for and against.

Fancy that NZ? I remember someone bagging them out a on as being a weak team in this thread. Never can tell at a national championship. Good to see local Districts girl Penne Paenga hitting 7 threes and racking up 25 points for NZ in a big win against New South Country.

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The way I see it is that the only way the girls can make the medal round is if NSWC lose today and we win. In a three way tie with NZ being the other team we lose out and NZ advance as they have the best for and against.

Fancy that NZ? I remember someone bagging them out a on as being a weak team in this thread. Never can tell at a national championship. Good to see local Districts girl Penne Paenga hitting 7 threes and racking up 25 points for NZ in a big win against New South Country.

Over the last few years NZ have put some serious money into developing players. I am happy that it has started to pay off for them. GO NZ!

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The plays were to include the bigs, however there appears to be only 1 big doing her job. The others are turning over and having trouble finding the basket. An average of 2-4 points per game seems a little low.

Have seen one of these Qld centers getting the ball ripped off her in a club game on a Friday nite by a bottom age U14 rep player how did she even get in this team.

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Have seen one of these Qld centers getting the ball ripped off her in a club game on a Friday nite by a bottom age U14 rep player how did she even get in this team.

Fancy that - a 15-year-old girl not perfect!! The shame of it all. The narrow-mindedness of some of the 'commentators' on here is appalling.

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I don't believe this statement because if that were the case then why does the coach continue to start with girls who appear not to perform. Surely give the other girls a go if the original starting line-up isn't performing!

I think being a coach can be a thankless task, every one either bags or praises them in hindsight

There will always be discussions on why this and that selection but I will however agree that some of the players are not going well.

Yesterdays game case in point, watching the live stats, it was obvious we were doing well in the second quarter, within 1 point, then the team gets changed and changed again in the third and fourth wioth a whole lot more errors than with the team that was going well in the second quarter. Seems like one of the players who was going really well made a couple of errors and was then left off until the last 2 minutes of the fourth quarter. I will not name names but I share a common view that if this player and maybe one other had been left on, we might have got a lot closer, might have actually won becasue they were doing the job against taller higher ranked opponents

Then again, as I sit in my comfortable chair behind my keyboard, I can make any number of statements easily without any stress.

To support this team no matter what, to be positive no matter what the result, to say well done to each and every one of them regardless of game moments-brain explosions is tough and a little stressful for me but a lot more stressful for the players

I choose support and some stress

GO QLD South!

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going through the bigs does not appear to be what the set plays are about The bigs must be doing something right to keep getting their court time.. Dont be so negative from afar!

Not sure that the bigs role is even to score , the amount of shots they are taking and the lack of assists coming from the Guards would indicate that the ball is never getting to them. Wallace seems to be dominating the whole game ,minutes , amount of shots , nearly 3 times more than the next highest amount of shots taken.
Bigs would have a physical presence in there I'm sure but seems like the the rest of the team is struggling to see the ball.
Would have to think that this is how the Coach has devised this team and the roles that individuals should be playing.

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Not sure that the bigs role is even to score , the amount of shots they are taking and the lack of assists coming from the Guards would indicate that the ball is never getting to them. Wallace seems to be dominating the whole game ,minutes , amount of shots , nearly 3 times more than the next highest amount of shots taken.
Bigs would have a physical presence in there I'm sure but seems like the the rest of the team is struggling to see the ball.
Would have to think that this is how the Coach has devised this team and the roles that individuals should be playing.

Totally agree. Kristy has always been the standout player in 1996 born age group, however Qld to be competative against Vic sides needs to develope the team not just one player. Nicki Bairstow keeped tabs on kristy last season didn't let her run amok and the TEAM won classics not just one player.

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Fancy that - a 15-year-old girl not perfect!! The shame of it all. The narrow-mindedness of some of the 'commentators' on here is appalling.

What are her stats at nationals like???

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If it's a 3 way tie? I think NZ would finish 2nd.

QLD beat NZ by 2
NSW beat QLD by 11
NZ beat NSW by 11

But NSW will have nothing to play for in the last game, so could lose. If so QLD would go through.

Heres hoping.

qld south vs qld north 3pm

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Are they in the medals if they beat North today?

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Are they in the medals if they beat North today?

No. If they win they play for 5th/6th. If they lose they play for 7th/8th.

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Its a pity with the talent this team had they haven't done as well as expected. Continually Picking height over form(stats don't lie) and guards who play for themselves instead of the team has obviously cost the team any chance of playing semi finals. When will Qld learn Basketball is a team sport not about individuals.

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Reminder - Redlands rep trials this Sunday

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You are not there...so please do not judge! Until you experience Nationals first hand, each story is different. Please do not judge - you need to support those who have been chosen to represent our state...otherwise put your hand up to do the job! Well done to all involved - a lot of hard work, blood, sweet and tears! While some do not appreciate it, I am one who supports those involve, who give up there time - as a volunteer. Keep up the great work!

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Its a pity with the talent this team had they haven't done as well as expected. Continually Picking height over form(stats don't lie) and guards who play for themselves instead of the team has obviously cost the team any chance of playing semi finals. When will Qld learn Basketball is a team sport not about individuals.

and who would have made the team if you were coach? why dont you post it so we can comment

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Its a pity with the talent this team had they haven't done as well as expected. Continually Picking height over form(stats don't lie) and guards who play for themselves instead of the team has obviously cost the team any chance of playing semi finals. When will Qld learn Basketball is a team sport not about individuals.

Yes it is a pity your child was not selected or more than likely has not played has much as you would have liked, build a bridge and get over it.

To state that this team has under achieved is a load of BS. Places 3 to 6 is about right and lets not forget they have won five of their seven games to date. Also keep in mind they lost out on the medal round on a count back involving 2 other teams.

This teams true test comes today, the girls get the chance to avenge an earlier loss against New South Country today in the 5/6 playoff. This will be a great guage to see if the group has come together and improved has the week has progressed.

I think they have all done us proud and the platform is set for a very good result with this age group in 2012. Good luck Ladies, play well and enjoy your selfs.

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No. If they win they play for 5th/6th. If they lose they play for 7th/8th.

Well done ladies! 5th was a good effort for this team! Much easier game after the coach can watch them play for a few games and can get the combinations right!

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One question...How did Kristie out rebound our BIGS??? Hanna excluded?? That doesn't sound right...Its one thing the BIGS are struggling offensively but you would think they will pick their game up on the defensive boards.

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Qld can still make top 4. If both Qld and NZ win tomorrow's early matches NSW Country have nothing to play for, even if they win! All 3 teams on same win/ loss ratio.Three way tie Qld beat NZ so should finish 2nd in their pool.


A tough week over. Good luck for rep trials. My money is on RB U16 girls. Heard they'll have a good 18 team too, might give Spartans a good run! that will be a tough team to make,strong combination of a couple of top and mostly bottom agers. Rumor has it
spartans have a high intensity coach lined up for 16's. That will sort some out!

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One question...How did Kristie out rebound our BIGS??? Hanna excluded?? That doesn't sound right...Its one thing the BIGS are struggling offensively but you would think they will pick their game up on the defensive boards.
enough crap on these kids. It's a team game, the team was picked , obviously not to your liking.
Step up and be productive or shut up. Hope these bigs are still playing in 10 yrs time,if they havent had their confidence smashed by such criticisms.

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Well done ladies! 5th was a good effort for this team! Much easier game after the coach can watch them play for a few games and can get the combinations right!
Not a good message. combinations should have been well and truly sorted before Nationals started. Do we need to look at a longer, more intense preparation? something for BQ to sort out and support coaching staff with. Take a leaf out of the Vic's book, it seems to work for them after all.

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One question...How did Kristie out rebound our BIGS??? Hanna excluded?? That doesn't sound right...Its one thing the BIGS are struggling offensively but you would think they will pick their game up on the defensive boards.

Because Kristie has the bigger heart!

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A tough week over. Good luck for rep trials. My money is on RB U16 girls. Heard they'll have a good 18 team too, might give Spartans a good run! that will be a tough team to make,strong combination of a couple of top and mostly bottom agers. Rumor has it
spartans have a high intensity coach lined up for 16's. That will sort some out!

No pressure on Spartans at all, 7 kids back from last year plus a new addition will make them very hard to beat. Also have the luxury of the undefeated u14's coming through. Should be aiming at two teams in Premier League.

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Because Kristie has the bigger heart!

Kristy would be the last person to agree with this post. Being the captain, she would be say all her players had a big heart. For you to say her heart is bigger is just being a stirrer and also a spartans supporter. Kristy is a great player and an extremely nice person. Don't single her out with these sorts of comments because if you like her you would protect her from this forum.

The girls had a great experience for $2400 plus court hire fees and travel costs to trainings out at Inala and hopefully their parents can afford to pay for them to try again next year. If BQ want the best in the team the payment should be $500 max.

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No pressure on Spartans at all, 7 kids back from last year plus a new addition will make them very hard to beat. Also have the luxury of the undefeated u14's coming through. Should be aiming at two teams in Premier League.

Will be a great comp this year. I agree, spartans are the team to beat so the rest have nothing to lose. All pressure on spartans. Player movement may make the competition a little stronger in the top four which pushes the players and in turn gives them a better comp to improve playing tough competition week in and out which other states have the luxury of experiencing.

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No pressure on Spartans at all, 7 kids back from last year plus a new addition will make them very hard to beat. Also have the luxury of the undefeated u14's coming through. Should be aiming at two teams in Premier League.

Last season spartans second team were one game away from being in third division. They will probably waste everybody's time just like last season and nominate two teams in Premier League again.

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Last season spartans second team were one game away from being in third division. They will probably waste everybody's time just like last season and nominate two teams in Premier League again.

That's the spirit!!
On a brighter note the new Div 2 team would be a lot better. If they earn their way through the gradings so be it!

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A tough week over. Good luck for rep trials. My money is on RB U16 girls. Heard they'll have a good 18 team too, might give Spartans a good run! that will be a tough team to make,strong combination of a couple of top and mostly bottom agers. Rumor has it
spartans have a high intensity coach lined up for 16's. That will sort some out!

So who's in the RB team? I know Krystle and I think Bridget, who else? It will take a lot more than two players to beat SD.

And don't forget Logan, they are always strong, so RB? I don't think so, they don't have the depth, they might come close to the top teams but that's all they will be , close

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one of those coaches back after a year at bbi. Does that mean his daughter coming back too. "grass is greener" at work there..............

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Under 12 Girls – Lovie Taylor

Under 12 Boys – Ray Axam

Under 14 Boys – Steve Edwards

Under 14 Girls – Steve Lennon

Under 16 Girls – Rob Scheibner

Under 16 Boys - Shane Willis

Under 18 Girls – Tony Stephens

Under 18 Boys – Greg Vanderjagt

Not many female coaches

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So who's in the RB team? I know Krystle and I think Bridget, who else? It will take a lot more than two players to beat SD.

And don't forget Logan, they are always strong, so RB? I don't think so, they don't have the depth, they might come close to the top teams but that's all they will be , close

According to previous posts half the Logan side are going to play for RB. If thats true then they will be an Awesome side. Why would so many players leave a great Side like Logan?

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According to previous posts half the Logan side are going to play for RB. If thats true then they will be an Awesome side. Why would so many players leave a great Side like Logan?

Half the team. Yeah right. Stirring again. Nothing wrong with Logan. Talk about your Spartans again

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According to previous posts half the Logan side are going to play for RB. If thats true then they will be an Awesome side. Why would so many players leave a great Side like Logan?

I'm guessing it's the potential chance to be coached by Shane the following season, assuming they make the cut as bottom agers. Time will tell.

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Half the team. Yeah right. Stirring again. Nothing wrong with Logan. Talk about your Spartans again

All is well remain calm

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U20 Boys Ric Lawyer

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I am chasing contacts in USA for a junior girls team that we want to organise a tour for in 2012.
We are chasing the Boston, New York and Washington DC areas.
If you can help please email sdbal@bigpond.net.au

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one of those coaches back after a year at bbi. Does that mean his daughter coming back too. "grass is greener" at work there..............

Groundhog day , daughter is back in the SD off season program while still playing with BBI at Nationals , father coaching u12 Spartans next year while still Ass Coach for u14 at Brisbane.

Too much for this old man to comprehend.

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Ahh yes, the grass is greener policy at it's best lol

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Welcome back Chuckles and no Justin Vasternik.

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There is Justin, what is going on at Logan ???????

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Under 14 Boys- Chris Brown, Stevie Snow
Under 14 Girls- Michelle Rarere
Under 16 Boys- Josh Heng
Under 16 Girls- Clayde Osborne, Cathryn McNeill
Under 18 Boys- Daryn Chisolm
Under 18 Girls- Peter Pollock, Olivia Thomas,Cindy Rich

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U20 Boys - Shaun Mcdonagh
U20 Girls - TBA
U18 Boys Waves - Bryan Allen
U18 Boys Breakers - TBA
U18 Girls Waves - Simon Bradbery
U18 Girls Breakers - Andrew Taylor
U16 Boys Waves - Steve Weiland
U16 Boys Breakers - Bradley Watts
U16 Girls Waves - Stuart Allen
U16 Girls Breakers - Justin Vasterink
U14 Boys Waves - John Lowe
U14 Boys Breakers - Peter Hill
U14 Girls Waves - Bradley O'Brien
U14 Girls Breakers - Carl Forbes
U12 Boys - Craig Marks
U12 Girls - Christine Ward


There is Justin, what is going on at Logan ???????

Logan lose coaches on a regular basis. History tells a story

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Groundhog day , daughter is back in the SD off season program while still playing with BBI at Nationals , father coaching u12 Spartans next year while still Ass Coach for u14 at Brisbane.

Too much for this old man to comprehend.

Parents are involved for their kids. So they move around. So what? They also change their insurance companies and banks to get the best deal too! Is very difficult time wise to coach at an association if your kids play somewhere else.

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Parents are involved for their kids. So they move around. So what? They also change their insurance companies and banks to get the best deal too!
Dont parents also have their kids play sport for the social values and life skills the pursuit engenders? Instrinsic to playing sport are the loyalty, community values and social skills one develops to one's colleagues and peers. I think it is meant to develop much more respect and loyalty in children than adults might show towards their insurance companies and banks?

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Logan lose coaches on a regular basis. History tells a story

yep but they always return just like the players who leave

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Aleisha Ennis
Alicia Froling
Ashleigh Guy
Brittany Fuller
Caitlyn Biondi-Howarth
Keely Froling
Mykenzie Gray
Natalie Bruce
Tiarna Wood


Townsvillle u16 Rep Team ...........NO

Nth QLD u16 state team ...............NO

The Northern Region Schools Team ......YEP

If they dont win this at their own place with that team I will give it away. Wonder if they have learnt the lesson from Classics.

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yep but they always return just like the players who leave

Thank goodness. Logan will be so strong when all the players and coaches come back. Do you have a timeline on their return?

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Aleisha Ennis
Alicia Froling
Ashleigh Guy
Brittany Fuller
Caitlyn Biondi-Howarth
Keely Froling
Mykenzie Gray
Natalie Bruce
Tiarna Wood


Townsvillle u16 Rep Team ...........NO

Nth QLD u16 state team ...............NO

The Northern Region Schools Team ......YEP

If they dont win this at their own place with that team I will give it away. Wonder if they have learnt the lesson from Classics.

They will go close to beating Met East or South. Why are the Froling girls playing in a schools tournie? The desire to win anything, no matter how insignificant must be compelling.

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They will go close to beating Met East or South. Why are the Froling girls playing in a schools tournie? The desire to win anything, no matter how insignificant must be compelling.

This is a full Rep Team up against schools team , Met East with no Wallace or Obrien will be lucky to get within 20 points of them same with the South Team.

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This is a full Rep Team up against schools team , Met East with no Wallace or Obrien will be lucky to get within 20 points of them same with the South Team.

Yes they should win this meaningless tournament. But if you keep bigging them up, it will just be bigger LULZ when they choke again.

Go South.

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They will go close to beating Met East or South. Why are the Froling girls playing in a schools tournie? The desire to win anything, no matter how insignificant must be compelling.


Or maybe they enjoy playing basketball?

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Or maybe they enjoy playing basketball?
Exactly! Fancy that huh? Maybe they enjoy those normal teenage things like proudly representing your school and your city, helping classmates and others that may not ever play internationally or professionally to be competitive and maybe win something? Just normal things that well adjusted teens like doing. That sort of giving attitude and love of the sport must seem strange to some?

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Exactly! Fancy that huh? Maybe they enjoy those normal teenage things like proudly representing your school and your city, helping classmates and others that may not ever play internationally or professionally to be competitive and maybe win something? Just normal things that well adjusted teens like doing. That sort of giving attitude and love of the sport must seem strange to some?

Or maybe it has been a tournament that is not worth spending money on travelling to. But since it is at home it might be a bit of fun and beats sitting in school. :-)

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Exactly! Fancy that huh? Maybe they enjoy those normal teenage things like proudly representing your school and your city, helping classmates and others that may not ever play internationally or professionally to be competitive and maybe win something? Just normal things that well adjusted teens like doing. That sort of giving attitude and love of the sport must seem strange to some?


Didnt notice too much help being given to Classmates the year before at the tournament in Brisbane, but sharing the love close too home is a good thing. Is also cheaper !

This is after schools basketball and should be treated with the respect that it deserves.

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This is a full Rep Team up against schools team , Met East with no Wallace or Obrien will be lucky to get within 20 points of them same with the South Team.

What's the go with these two not being in the Met East side? Didn't they trial? I'd be stunned if they did trial but weren't picked

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What's the go with these two not being in the Met East side? Didn't they trial? I'd be stunned if they did trial but weren't picked

Didn't trial. It get's expensive on top of Nationals.

That said I wouldn't be too surprised if good players didn't get picked. There are some real selection surprises with Met East every year.

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Didn't trial. It get's expensive on top of Nationals.

That said I wouldn't be too surprised if good players didn't get picked. There are some real selection surprises with Met East every year.

Where are u16 Nationals next year ?????

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What's the go with these two not being in the Met East side? Didn't they trial? I'd be stunned if they did trial but weren't picked

It is school basketball, you should never be stunned,

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Thank goodness. Logan will be so strong when all the players and coaches come back. Do you have a timeline on their return?

Bahaha, some return only because noone else will have them....

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Bahaha, some return only because noone else will have them....


A bit of mutual desperation shown by both parties here.

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Where are u16 Nationals next year ?????

NSW.

[Trial dates]

Rep trials commence

To be eligible to be selected in Spartans representative teams for the 2011/12 rep season, players must attend all trial session unless discussed with the head coach (Spartans) of the individual age group. Valid reason must be given to not attend trial sessions. Trial session will be conducted by the Spartans team head coach, to be assisted by Titans and Trojans team coaches. Squads shall be selected following conclusion of trial period and not before.

Cost for trial period is $5 per player which must be paid to the head coach/manager of the age group prior to the first session. All monies taken during this trial period shall be disbursed back into the rep program.

Players are not permitted to trial with any other association during this period. Any player who is found to be doing so will be removed from the Spartans representative program. Players must make the commitment solely to the Spartans program.

For more information regarding the 2011/12 Spartans rep program please contact Greg Vanderjagt on 3398 2790 or 0421 631 587.

Trials Dates & Times are as listed below:

Under 12 Girls - August 14, 21 & 28 - 8:00 - 9:30am

Under 14 Girls - August 14, 21 & 28 - 8:00 - 9:30am

Under 16 Girls - August 14 12:30 - 2:00pm

August 21 & 28 - 11:00am - 12:30pm

Under 18 Girls - August 14 - 2:00 - 3:30pm

August 21 & 28 - 12:30 - 2:00pm

Under 12 Boys - August 11, 18 & 25 - 4:30 - 6:00pm

Under 14 Boys - August 14, 21 & 28 - 9:30 - 11:00am

Under 16 Boys - Agust 14, 21 & 28 - 11:00am - 12:30pm

Under 18 Boys - August 21 & 28 - 12:30 - 2:00pm

Spartans will also be having an under 20 mens and womens teams.

[USA Tour]

Lady Spartans Tour USA 2012

Proposal in planning

Southern Districts Basketball Association is in the early planning stage of organising a junior women’s tour in the USA. Please read the basic outline below and if you are interested please contact myself by email on sdbal@bipond.net.au

Start December 2nd Fly LA
December 3rd Training Jason Wright Game TBA
December 4th Training Jason Wright Game TBA
December 5th Sightseeing
December 6th Sightseeing Fly New York
December 7th Sightseeing Game TBA
December 8th Rest day Game TBA
December 9th Sightseeing Game TBA
December 10th Travel to Boston
December 11th Sightseeing Game TBA
December 12th Sightseeing Game TBA
December 13th Rest day Game TBA
December 14th Return to New York Game TBA
December 15th Fly LA
Fly Brisbane Arrive 17th December


Age groups Under 16 & under 18 (2012)
Preference will be given to SDBAL members but players from other Associations welcome to apply

Costs Expected to be $4500 per player excluding tours & meals.

Accommodation Team & billets

Head coach Rob Schiebner and Mathew Beggs

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A bit of mutual desperation shown by both parties here.

the majority leave because their kids didnt make premier league or some other lame excuse like they dont like the coach or they dont like some other girl or parents the list is long Ive heard them all.

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the majority leave because their kids didnt make premier league or some other lame excuse like they dont like the coach or they dont like some other girl or parents the list is long Ive heard them all.

derrr. They are reasons not excuses. Does it really matter? To say the majority leave because.......... Another sweeping generalisation. Great we have experts like you to keep us informed.

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derrr. They are reasons not excuses. Does it really matter? To say the majority leave because.......... Another sweeping generalisation. Great we have experts like you to keep us informed.

Kristy Wallace to train with Aus under 17s team

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If the Brisbane Comp was arranged as the school comp who would win based on the teams now at Townsville ?

Met East
Chantelle Dickson
Jameson Mcmullen
Jemma Kohout
Jesse Sanderson
Madilyn Sanderson
Rhianna Moyle
Sammi Deakin-Sharpe
Shenade Southon
Taylor Mosslar
Tyeka Close

Met North
Courtney Woods
Gabrielle O'Brien
Georgia Stoddart
Julia Lindner
Olivia Mcnamara
Shinade Douglas
Sophie Maund
Stephanie Elphick
Tupoutu'A Kupu
Vivien Balmer

Met West
Annika Hoger
Carlie Profke
Hayley Chisholm
Iiesha Saltner
Khaedin Taito
Khajdeishe Lologa
Lauren Campbell
Madison Dore
Savannah Au
Taylor Fogarty

South Coast
Ajiah Pepe
Annaleise Stoyko
Caitlin Becirevic
Jamie Heal
Jessica Renata
Jordan Siulepa
Kaitlin Smith
Krystle Mckenzie
Milly Disteldorf
Taneeka Parker

Sunshine Coast
Caylan Graham
Chloe Boykett
Dani Sjogren
Demi Williams
Isabella Fyfe
Jacinta Ainsworth
Lucy Ballard
Melanie Bateman
Regan Mccarty
Taylah Howard

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If the Brisbane Comp was arranged as the school comp who would win based on the teams now at Townsville ?

Met East
Chantelle Dickson
Jameson Mcmullen
Jemma Kohout
Jesse Sanderson
Madilyn Sanderson
Rhianna Moyle
Sammi Deakin-Sharpe
Shenade Southon
Taylor Mosslar
Tyeka Close

Met North
Courtney Woods
Gabrielle O'Brien
Georgia Stoddart
Julia Lindner
Olivia Mcnamara
Shinade Douglas
Sophie Maund
Stephanie Elphick
Tupoutu'A Kupu
Vivien Balmer

Met West
Annika Hoger
Carlie Profke
Hayley Chisholm
Iiesha Saltner
Khaedin Taito
Khajdeishe Lologa
Lauren Campbell
Madison Dore
Savannah Au
Taylor Fogarty

South Coast
Ajiah Pepe
Annaleise Stoyko
Caitlin Becirevic
Jamie Heal
Jessica Renata
Jordan Siulepa
Kaitlin Smith
Krystle Mckenzie
Milly Disteldorf
Taneeka Parker

Sunshine Coast
Caylan Graham
Chloe Boykett
Dani Sjogren
Demi Williams
Isabella Fyfe
Jacinta Ainsworth
Lucy Ballard
Melanie Bateman
Regan Mccarty
Taylah Howard

Quite a few quality kids are missing Kristy, Hanna, Bridget, Nat. Are Emily and Kirby playing for Darling Downs?

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Quite a few quality kids are missing Kristy, Hanna, Bridget, Nat. Are Emily and Kirby playing for Darling Downs?

If you add these kids to their respective sides it would be a much better comp than the season just played. All teams would be competitive and playing hard tough teams every week would prepare the State girls to be competitive against the Vics et al.

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If you add these kids to their respective sides it would be a much better comp than the season just played. All teams would be competitive and playing hard tough teams every week would prepare the State girls to be competitive against the Vics et al.

Should start a mid week comp based purely on the geographical locations of players (ie where they live), divide the Brisbane region into 6 or so locations and play mid week during the off season from Brisbane comp. Would give players a chance to play with kids they would normally never play with and release the shackles of being bound to one association.

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If the Brisbane Comp was arranged as the school comp who would win based on the teams now at Townsville ?

Met East
Chantelle Dickson
Jameson Mcmullen
Jemma Kohout
Jesse Sanderson
Madilyn Sanderson
Rhianna Moyle
Sammi Deakin-Sharpe
Shenade Southon
Taylor Mosslar
Tyeka Close

Met North
Courtney Woods
Gabrielle O'Brien
Georgia Stoddart
Julia Lindner
Olivia Mcnamara
Shinade Douglas
Sophie Maund
Stephanie Elphick
Tupoutu'A Kupu
Vivien Balmer

Met West
Annika Hoger
Carlie Profke
Hayley Chisholm
Iiesha Saltner
Khaedin Taito
Khajdeishe Lologa
Lauren Campbell
Madison Dore
Savannah Au
Taylor Fogarty

South Coast
Ajiah Pepe
Annaleise Stoyko
Caitlin Becirevic
Jamie Heal
Jessica Renata
Jordan Siulepa
Kaitlin Smith
Krystle Mckenzie
Milly Disteldorf
Taneeka Parker

Sunshine Coast
Caylan Graham
Chloe Boykett
Dani Sjogren
Demi Williams
Isabella Fyfe
Jacinta Ainsworth
Lucy Ballard
Melanie Bateman
Regan Mccarty
Taylah Howard

Come on South Coast can you beat the North Queensland State team in the grand final today?! Go for it!!!!

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Come on South Coast can you beat the North Queensland State team in the grand final today?! Go for it!!!!

Who Won?

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Who Won?

North by 19

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North by 19

Who made the "honourary state" team

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Who made the "honourary state" team

Is there no nationals?

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Who made the "honourary state" team

Thank god it is only honorary, most school teachers pick players that wouldn't make premier league.

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Yes they should win this meaningless tournament. But if you keep bigging them up, it will just be bigger LULZ when they choke again.

Go South.

Sorry your wish didnt come true. Looks like all the kids there had a good time. The boys game was equally entertaining.

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Thank god it is only honorary, most school teachers pick players that wouldn't make premier league.


Div 3'r from Redlands in the mix I hear

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OMG - You are a cat..... did you even watch her play. She obviously should NOT be playing for a low division rep team. This player was a stand out, playing excellent defence and a reliable shooter. She deserved being chosen in the state team. Maybe you should have watched her play before placing your bi....y comment...She should come & play rep for our association....

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Div 3'r from Redlands in the mix I hear

From what I've heard the team is a joke! Five from the Qld South side didn't even bother to play and one player that made it last year as a bottom bottom ager (played this year for Qld South) also wasn't selected. I suppose it gives 2nd tier players bragging rights to say they made an honourary squad of 15 that goes nowhere.

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From what I've heard the team is a joke! Five from the Qld South side didn't even bother to play and one player that made it last year as a bottom bottom ager (played this year for Qld South) also wasn't selected. I suppose it gives 2nd tier players bragging rights to say they made an honourary squad of 15 that goes nowhere.

No one from outside the top 4 teams got selected , current state players form North and South not selected. I have no idea wha the criteria is for selection , seems to have nothing to do with actual ability.
Either these teachers/selectors are the smartest people on earth and can see things that no BQ selector or coach can or they are pack of headless duffers that vote in blocks and then get bragging rights on how many players they can get into a non existant team.
Kids had fun , good way to finish off the year before a weekend off and back to Rep Trials.
Enjoy the off Season.

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From what I've heard the team is a joke! Five from the Qld South side didn't even bother to play and one player that made it last year as a bottom bottom ager (played this year for Qld South) also wasn't selected. I suppose it gives 2nd tier players bragging rights to say they made an honourary squad of 15 that goes nowhere.

Who made the team?

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From what I've heard the team is a joke! Five from the Qld South side didn't even bother to play and one player that made it last year as a bottom bottom ager (played this year for Qld South) also wasn't selected. I suppose it gives 2nd tier players bragging rights to say they made an honourary squad of 15 that goes nowhere.

Although it is a shame that top players like Bridget, Kristy and others didn't trial and so weren't selected, the players that did make the team had a great time and we should all be proud of their achievements. To make the final is a great effort and it's a shame that comments like this detract from that

It must be a huge financial strain for players in rep and state programs to afford all possible events, such as this one, even more so if the family concerned has more than one child in a sport that requires constant outgoings, such as Basketball.

My child is proud as hell to be in this team and now has memories that will last a life time. No-one, not even the idiot who made the above statements can ever take those memories away

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Although it is a shame that top players like Bridget, Kristy and others didn't trial and so weren't selected, the players that did make the team had a great time and we should all be proud of their achievements. To make the final is a great effort and it's a shame that comments like this detract from that

It must be a huge financial strain for players in rep and state programs to afford all possible events, such as this one, even more so if the family concerned has more than one child in a sport that requires constant outgoings, such as Basketball.

My child is proud as hell to be in this team and now has memories that will last a life time. No-one, not even the idiot who made the above statements can ever take those memories away

That is a good call. Also, this team is selected on what the selectors see over the 4 days of play, not what they know about the players which means a lot of the politics you see in association qld team selections, doesn't exist with school stuff.
Congratulations to all those who were selected, enjoy your chance to shine!

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That is a good call. Also, this team is selected on what the selectors see over the 4 days of play, not what they know about the players which means a lot of the politics you see in association qld team selections, doesn't exist with school stuff.
Congratulations to all those who were selected, enjoy your chance to shine!

The previous comment is true and heartfelt. Yours is bitter and stirring. Congrats to all the girls who participated. School sport is also about friends, fitness and enjoyment.

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Observations from the Australian U 16 National Championships
Leonard King – Basketball Queensland Player and coach Development Manager

I attended the Under 16 National Championships which were held in Kilsyth (Melbourne) in early July. I wanted to observe the teams to assess their performance as this provides me an insight into the development of our players and the areas we need to work on to facilitate improvement. My observations were that in general the Queensland Teams started the tournament slowly with the teams on the back foot right from the start. I think nerves played a large part in our slow start which highlights the fact that we may need to step up the level of competition heading into the National Championships.

Offensively, a majority of the teams at the Championships ran a motion style offense employing perimeter passing schemes to shift the defence from one side of the floor to the other waiting for the opportunity to attack a closing out defensive player. The Victorians were excellent at executing off dribble penetration, drawing the 2nd line of defence and kicking to the open player for a shot. On ball screening was very prevalent at the Championships, primarily used early in offensive transition. When the Queensland teams were patient and ran some structure offensively we were hard to guard, we got some high percentage shots, had good defensive transition balance and offensive rebounders in position. The Queensland teams do, however, need to place more emphasis on ball security to reduce turnovers

Defensively, the Queensland teams need to work on ball screens, communication from the screen defender and placing pressure on the ball influencing the handler into the screen. We were very good in our defensive rotations, our Bigs did a great job of stepping up early to catch the dribble penetration outside of the defensive circle and the weak side guards were great at dropping down to help out on the rotating Big. Most teams incorporated a full court press, 1-2-2’s and 2-2-1’s. They would face guard the first receivers and deny the inbounds pass, on the catch there would be an aggressive trap, lots of body contact and active hands swiping at the ball in the trap. They would deny the return pass and the middle outlet pass, with the last defensive player anticipating in the passing lanes ready to jump on any weak floating passes. More work needs to be done with the Queensland teams so that they can handle the traps and physical play to minimise turn over’s in the back court which lead to uncontested lay-ups.

I was pleased with our State coach’s use of technology; all Queensland coaches used video and statistical scouting methods of their opponents and for their own team teaching and development purposes.

Overall reflections are that we did a decent job of rebounding the ball. The Queensland players could execute skills with both the left and right hand and finish with both hands. Passing and decision making under pressure needs to be improved. Fundamentally, our players were just as good, if not better, than most teams at the Championships particularly in the areas of ball handling, shooting and post defence.


From BQ newsletter.

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Gemma Mugridge Peninsula 135
Keely Froling Northern 122
Isabella Fyfe Sunshine Coast 114
Savannah Au Met West 114
Courtney Woods Met North 110
Alicia Froling Northern 103
Chantelle Dickson Met East 79
Krystle Mckenzie South Coast 77
Taneeka Parker South Coast 74
Carly Stevens Darling Downs 73
Milly Disteldorf South Coast 71
Mykenzie Gray Northern 71
Regan Mccarty Sunshine Coast 70
Tyeka Close Met East 68
Jessica Renata South Coast 67

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Gemma Mugridge Peninsula 135
Keely Froling Northern 122
Isabella Fyfe Sunshine Coast 114
Savannah Au Met West 114
Courtney Woods Met North 110
Alicia Froling Northern 103
Chantelle Dickson Met East 79
Krystle Mckenzie South Coast 77
Taneeka Parker South Coast 74
Carly Stevens Darling Downs 73
Milly Disteldorf South Coast 71
Mykenzie Gray Northern 71
Regan Mccarty Sunshine Coast 70
Tyeka Close Met East 68
Jessica Renata South Coast 67

Is this the honorary state team?

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Is this the honorary state team?

No, this team is much better!

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No, this team is much better!

meeeeoow!! Did your daughter miss out?

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meeeeoow!! Did your daughter miss out?

No, she made it.

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No, she made it.

Well done to her!! I gather that you don't think that her spot should be taken by one of the girls in the 'better' team.

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No, she made it.

Don't believe a word of it! She didn't make it, thats' why you are so p#$$%d off. Scorring isn't everything. Assists are just as important, after all, I wonder how they got the ball, oh that's right, they probably set a screen for themselves in your world, or tipped the ball, caught it, dribbled through 5 defenders, missed your first shot, got your own rebound and then scored. WOW, that's a tough game, 1 on 5. No wonder you are an excellent player. Good Job.

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Don't believe a word of it! She didn't make it, thats' why you are so p#$$%d off. Scorring isn't everything. Assists are just as important, after all, I wonder how they got the ball, oh that's right, they probably set a screen for themselves in your world, or tipped the ball, caught it, dribbled through 5 defenders, missed your first shot, got your own rebound and then scored. WOW, that's a tough game, 1 on 5. No wonder you are an excellent player. Good Job.

I know of a couple of players in that "top 15 scorers" that wait at half court to "cherry pick".
Letting their team mates do all the work, yet they get the glory. Thank god the state basketball selectors see past it.

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I know of a couple of players in that "top 15 scorers" that wait at half court to "cherry pick".
Letting their team mates do all the work, yet they get the glory. Thank god the state basketball selectors see past it.

Stop it ladies. These are kids. Very sad to see comments like this.

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Stop it ladies. These are kids. Very sad to see comments like this.

Good luck in the rep trials coming up! Not much of an off season anymore!

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I know of a couple of players in that "top 15 scorers" that wait at half court to "cherry pick".
Letting their team mates do all the work, yet they get the glory. Thank god the state basketball selectors see past it.

Someone maybe be a cherry picker and score 20+ points a game in regional and representative level. But at National level and your still a cherry picker...... you'd be lucky to the splinters out of your ass!

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Everyone needs to just have a pascall swirl

Haha LOL....wonder who thats was..??...(annoyed have a pascall swirl) ;)

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Someone maybe be a cherry picker and score 20+ points a game in regional and representative level. But at National level and your still a cherry picker...... you'd be lucky to the splinters out of your ass!

Those kids don't even make it that far.Any decent team can shut a cherry picker down.Might work in school stuff.

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North- Alicia Froling
Keely Froling
Tiana Wood
Caitlyn Blondi - Howarth
Ainsley Guy
Sth Coast- Krystle McKenzie
Tanika Parker
Jordan Siulepa
Jamie Heal
Med East- Rhianna Moyle
Chantelle Dickson
Med West- Savannah Au
Khajdeishe Iologa
Khaedin Taito
Sunshine- Isabella Fyfe

Congratulations to all the above 15 girls who played well, worked hard, made new friends & had fun.

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Have been reading that NSW metro and Vic Country will not be sending teams to PCS this year, perception is the standard is dropping and not providing the level of competition it once did.
Not sure how this will affect BQ teams and others that have been invited to attend.

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North- Alicia Froling
Keely Froling
Tiana Wood
Caitlyn Blondi - Howarth
Ainsley Guy
Sth Coast- Krystle McKenzie
Tanika Parker
Jordan Siulepa
Jamie Heal
Med East- Rhianna Moyle
Chantelle Dickson
Med West- Savannah Au
Khajdeishe Iologa
Khaedin Taito
Sunshine- Isabella Fyfe

Congratulations to all the above 15 girls who played well, worked hard, made new friends & had fun.

I think it was Ainsley Walsh

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North- Alicia Froling
Keely Froling
Tiana Wood
Caitlyn Blondi - Howarth
Ainsley Guy
Sth Coast- Krystle McKenzie
Tanika Parker
Jordan Siulepa
Jamie Heal
Med East- Rhianna Moyle
Chantelle Dickson
Med West- Savannah Au
Khajdeishe Iologa
Khaedin Taito
Sunshine- Isabella Fyfe

Congratulations to all the above 15 girls who played well, worked hard, made new friends & had fun.

Quote about "School State Teams" from the experience at the recent tournament in Canberra


Fair to say a lot of players and parents coming away significantly out of pocket with a heightened awareness of the huge difference between school team coaching and actual basketball. The players themselves and the parents who paid this coaches expenses away all know enough about real basketball from their experience with state teams with real coaches to know they have been ripped off badly by a school teacher masquerading as a basketball coach to get himself a paid holiday in Canberra.

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Quote about "School State Teams" from the experience at the recent tournament in Canberra


Fair to say a lot of players and parents coming away significantly out of pocket with a heightened awareness of the huge difference between school team coaching and actual basketball. The players themselves and the parents who paid this coaches expenses away all know enough about real basketball from their experience with state teams with real coaches to know they have been ripped off badly by a school teacher masquerading as a basketball coach to get himself a paid holiday in Canberra.

Hear Hear

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Quote about "School State Teams" from the experience at the recent tournament in Canberra


Fair to say a lot of players and parents coming away significantly out of pocket with a heightened awareness of the huge difference between school team coaching and actual basketball. The players themselves and the parents who paid this coaches expenses away all know enough about real basketball from their experience with state teams with real coaches to know they have been ripped off badly by a school teacher masquerading as a basketball coach to get himself a paid holiday in Canberra.


Just about sums up the schools basketball system at all levels.
Has some huge credibilty problems along with financial issues but anything for a few days of school even if it costs your parents thousands has got to be a good thing.

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Quote about "School State Teams" from the experience at the recent tournament in Canberra


Fair to say a lot of players and parents coming away significantly out of pocket with a heightened awareness of the huge difference between school team coaching and actual basketball. The players themselves and the parents who paid this coaches expenses away all know enough about real basketball from their experience with state teams with real coaches to know they have been ripped off badly by a school teacher masquerading as a basketball coach to get himself a paid holiday in Canberra.

Unbelievable! If you don't like the system don't let your child try out for the team. Do us all a favour and leave it to someone who can be part of a TEAM without the whinging. Though something tells me it's not the kids doing all the complaining! It is what it is.

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In regards to comments made about school basketball..............
Our team had a great districts coach, (a teacher and a very competent coach) however after my child was selected for the State Team, I just assumed the coach of the State Team would be of the same calibre if not better.
Unfortunately the coaching of this team was very disappointing and given the fact that we did indeed have one of the strongest teams at the tournament and performed well under par primarily because of coaching was disconcerting.

My main problem is that it was not a cheap exercise. The players levy for Canberra was $900 add to that parents flights, food, accommodation, car etc and you are looking at nearly $2k.
For that amount of money one would expect to have a coach that knows how to coach?
Had I known this prior to going to Canberra, would I have pulled my child out of the tournament? No probably not, I think I would have just hoped for the best.
Every other parent was of the same mind, we had a great bunch of kids that all deserved to be there and were let down.
I'm not saying that all States worked like this, several of the other State teams had great coaches, I'm only speaking about our own personal experience with this program.
There is no need to name names or teams as the point of this post is not to condemn the coach/staff but to express that parents are not often aware of how the schools program actually works.

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In regards to comments made about school basketball..............
Our team had a great districts coach, (a teacher and a very competent coach) however after my child was selected for the State Team, I just assumed the coach of the State Team would be of the same calibre if not better.
Unfortunately the coaching of this team was very disappointing and given the fact that we did indeed have one of the strongest teams at the tournament and performed well under par primarily because of coaching was disconcerting.

My main problem is that it was not a cheap exercise. The players levy for Canberra was $900 add to that parents flights, food, accommodation, car etc and you are looking at nearly $2k.
For that amount of money one would expect to have a coach that knows how to coach?
Had I known this prior to going to Canberra, would I have pulled my child out of the tournament? No probably not, I think I would have just hoped for the best.
Every other parent was of the same mind, we had a great bunch of kids that all deserved to be there and were let down.
I'm not saying that all States worked like this, several of the other State teams had great coaches, I'm only speaking about our own personal experience with this program.
There is no need to name names or teams as the point of this post is not to condemn the coach/staff but to express that parents are not often aware of how the schools program actually works.
this is a very unfortunate experience. Having been involved in both BQ and schools bball, I was amazed at the attitude of some teachers involved. They truly think they are doing the right thing, some have the opinion the schools program is the best thing available. Such huge differences of opinion will not benefit anyone. Take the schools comp for what it is, an expensive fun few days away from school. Dont get involved if you expect anything else. Spend your money on some individual coaching for your kids.

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Great kids as well and certainly do the work required to have a chance of attaining that level.
Adds credence to Vygotsky's, "nature vs nurture" theory of childhood development. Parental genes with nurturing environment and the likely outcomes. (helps to have one of the best coaches in the country on the driveway with you whenever you want too)
Also interesting that young Misses, Longley, Vlahov and Heal are in the same age-group (or thereabouts)

Great for the twins. Pity you had to spoil the comment with comparing other parents
offspring. It all depends on if the child wants to put the time in. The twins do and that is their result. Alot of kids do more amazing things than play basketball.

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Townsville basketball on a high possible history being made in the future with the first twins to ever play for the opals go you good things

AUSTRALIAN U17 WOMEN'S TEAM
Kaylee BIDDELL, SA Country
Louise BROWN (Subject to medical clearance), VIC Metro
Stephanie COLLINS, VIC Metro
Alicia FROLING, QLD North
Keely FROLING, QLD North
Grace LENNOX, Tasmania
Tiana MANGAKAHLIA, QLD South
Vanessa PANOUSSIS, NSW Metro
Lauren SHERF, VIC Metro
Alana SMITH (subject to medical clearance), VIC Metro
Carly TURNER, VIC Metro
Abigail WEHRUNG, VIC Country

RESERVES
Brodie Theodore, VIC Metro
Danni Pearce, VIC Country
Amanda Meinking, VIC Metro

COACHING STAFF
Head Coach: Marissa Fillipou
Physio: Rosie Molloy
Assistant Coaches: Chris Lucas & Simon Pritchard

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AUSTRALIAN U17 WOMEN'S TEAM
Kaylee BIDDELL, SA Country
Louise BROWN (Subject to medical clearance), VIC Metro
Stephanie COLLINS, VIC Metro
Alicia FROLING, QLD North
Keely FROLING, QLD North
Grace LENNOX, Tasmania
Tiana MANGAKAHLIA, QLD South
Vanessa PANOUSSIS, NSW Metro
Lauren SHERF, VIC Metro
Alana SMITH (subject to medical clearance), VIC Metro
Carly TURNER, VIC Metro
Abigail WEHRUNG, VIC Country

RESERVES
Brodie Theodore, VIC Metro
Danni Pearce, VIC Country
Amanda Meinking, VIC Metro

COACHING STAFF
Head Coach: Marissa Fillipou
Physio: Rosie Molloy
Assistant Coaches: Chris Lucas & Simon Pritchard

Good onya QLD girls. How is this side picked, is it from nationals? Who do they verse.

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Good onya QLD girls. How is this side picked, is it from nationals? Who do they verse.
Players identified at National's tournament in 2010 and a large number have been invited into a number of selection camps at the AIS in the 13 months since then. Other Queensland girls to have trialled include Aleisha Myers, Jess Gajewski and Soraya Page. National coaching staff have slowly refined the squads down to these final 15 who will play a series against New Zealand in October.
This tournament will be a pre-cursor to the 17 and under FIBA world championships somewhere in the world next year.

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This tournament will be a pre-cursor to the 17 and under FIBA world championships somewhere in the world next year.

That's great news! I was really worried it would be on mars this time.( god
knows it's someone else turn soon)

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That's great news! I was really worried it would be on mars this time.( god
knows it's someone else turn soon)

8 Year road trip and the cost is prohibitive

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8 Year road trip and the cost is prohibitive
Exactly! Nah it'll definitely be at Carina or Auchenflower.