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02-08-10, 16:15
New season, new thread.
Has the dust settled on who is playing where yet. We know Krystal is at RB any other movements.
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02-08-10, 19:46
2011 State Championship Hosts Announced
Basketball Queensland would like to congratulate all the associations that have been selected to host the 2011 State Championships
U12’s – Northside Wizards
U14 Girls – Ipswich
U14 Boys – Brisbane
U16 Girls – Townsville
U16 Boys – Southern Districts
U18’s – Gold Coast
The hosts for the 2012 State Championships will be announced in the coming weeks.
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04-08-10, 16:18
I noticed Hanah from Ipswich was icing her knee before a game at schools last week. She started last season averaging more points per game than any other player before injuring her knee. Would be a shame if she is still hampered by the same injury.
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05-08-10, 16:03
Has the dust settled on who is playing where yet. We know Krystal is at RB any other movements.
I think there are some U16 teams that will be very strong compared to how they finished last year at U14's. Interesting to see if they stay together as a team in the 16's.
Norths should be very strong as we have recruited well, now if we can just get another one or two players, such as Bridget and Khaiden, we should be hard to beat.
JUST Kidding, in case a storm of controversy erupts, lighten up, they're still children although in my house you wouldn't know it
I can't wait for this year to start and good luck to all teams
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05-08-10, 16:09
I think there are some U16 teams that will be very strong compared to how they finished last year at U14's. Interesting to see if they stay together as a team in the 16's.
Norths should be very strong as we have recruited well, now if we can just get another one or two players, such as Bridget and Khaiden, we should be hard to beat.
JUST Kidding, in case a storm of controversy erupts, lighten up, they're still children although in my house you wouldn't know it
I can't wait for this year to start and good luck to all teams
I dont how successful you will be but I know you will be a whole lot happier without Mr Chuckles this year.
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06-08-10, 10:08
I noticed Hanah from Ipswich was icing her knee before a game at schools last week. She started last season averaging more points per game than any other player before injuring her knee. Would be a shame if she is still hampered by the same injury.
Hannas all good. She told us she cant be bothered no more. Dont blame her she has been hard out. She just over it. Her knee is ok.
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06-08-10, 12:09
I think there are some U16 teams that will be very strong compared to how they finished last year at U14's. Interesting to see if they stay together as a team in the 16's.
Norths should be very strong as we have recruited well, now if we can just get another one or two players, such as Bridget and Khaiden, we should be hard to beat.
JUST Kidding, in case a storm of controversy erupts, lighten up, they're still children although in my house you wouldn't know it
I can't wait for this year to start and good luck to all teams
Who is going to Northside? I thought they were a bottom age side this year and will have to play well at grading to make prem.
Which age group are going to have 'chuckles' screaming at them ;)
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06-08-10, 23:36
millie disteldorf made the qld schools 15s state honourary team and played absolutely outstanding. congratulations millie.
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08-08-10, 10:20
Has the dust settled on who is playing where yet. We know Krystal is at RB any other movements.
All will be revealed ....Tuesday.
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10-08-10, 13:54
Has the dust settled on who is playing where yet. We know Krystal is at RB any other movements.
Milly D
Emily Derksen
Hanna Tusa
SD Spartans.
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10-08-10, 17:06
Milly D
Emily Derksen
Hanna Tusa
SD Spartans.
As part of our commitment to develop our athletes Southern Districts Basketball Association has again accepted the invitation to nominate 4 junior men’s and women’s teams in the under 15s and 17s Pacific Coast Slam tournament.
This invitation only tournament brings together state teams from all over Australia and New Zealand for this 6 day tournament. In 2011 the Powerade Slam will include teams from NSW Country, NSW Metropolitan, Vic Country, South Australia, Queensland, New Zealand, North Coast All Stars and Western Australia
Venue. Port Macquarie Sports Stadium.
Dates. Thursday 16th January – Spartans teams arrive.
Friday 17th January - Competition commences
Wednesday 22nd January - finals are played.
Eligibility. Under 17s Athletes born 1995 and 1996 and who are members of Southern Districts and are not in a current state program. Under 15s Athletes born 1997 and 1998 and who are members of Southern Districts and are not in a current state program.
Under 17s Men’s coach Leroy Loggins
Under 17s Women’s coach Steve Lennon
Under 15s Men’s coach John Gryparis
Under 15s Woman’s coach Matt Beggs
Cost $975 per athlete includes transport, accommodations, 3 meals per day, referee fees, team nomination and playing fees. The trial date will be advertised on the SDBAL website.
All Athletes interested in playing must email sdbal@bigpond.net.au to register their intentions by no later than the 30th September and be committed to training during the Christmas school holidays.
Enquiries email sdbal@bigpond.net.au
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10-08-10, 17:09
Milly D
Emily Derksen
Hanna Tusa
SD Spartans.
So this year will be sd, logan and rb. forget the rest.
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10-08-10, 17:13
So this year will be sd, logan and rb. forget the rest.
Heard there were a few new faces at the Logan 16's trials.
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10-08-10, 17:14
Heard there were a few new faces at the Logan 16's trials.
Name names
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10-08-10, 17:37
Name names
Obviously spartans haven't DEVELOPED / or don't think MUCH of their current crop of players for the under16's. They have to go out and poach players from other associations. Don't players and parents realise that playing with each other and not against, does not help their developement! What is the point of having a super teams yet never been challenged by opposition sides. More time on the bench I suppose, less court time.
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10-08-10, 18:19
So this year will be sd, logan and rb. forget the rest.
I think Basketball Queensland will have to bring in the draft system/salary cap like the AFL and NRL. So the big Brisbane clubs don't steal all the talented kids from the other smaller associations that have put time and effort into their juniors. The competition is much stronger and better when it is even.
I think Basketball Queensland will have to bring in the draft system/salary cap like the AFL and NRL. So the big Brisbane clubs don't steal all the talented kids from the other smaller associations that have put time and effort into their juniors. The competition is much stronger and better when it is even.
I dont see that happening. These kids that are moving such as the names mentioned in an earlier post have legit reasons if you ask me. Milly is moving to south brisbane and going to nationals with spartans so it makes sense. The derksons have been involved there for a little bit now. Its not about them poaching players at all. As for the person how says forget the rest you clearly shouldn't be involved in junior sport. Yes there may be a couple of stronger teams but they can beaten on any day.
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11-08-10, 11:50
I dont see that happening. These kids that are moving such as the names mentioned in an earlier post have legit reasons if you ask me. Milly is moving to south brisbane and going to nationals with spartans so it makes sense. The derksons have been involved there for a little bit now. Its not about them poaching players at all. As for the person how says forget the rest you clearly shouldn't be involved in junior sport. Yes there may be a couple of stronger teams but they can beaten on any day.
Well said, I've been involved for a long time and I've lost count of the number of times so called superior teams that can't be beaten have been beaten, that's sport
There are a number of strong teams with pride in their clubs and associations, if I was not RB, Logan or SD, I'd be putting this comment on the changing room wall when we play these so called mega teams as extra motivation although that's childish and not a good exampel I suppose
As for players moving around, 2 or 3 players are moving, big deal, I think there's 10 in a squad, some teams like Logan have 11 even 12 so 2-3 doesn't make a team plus if parents have better work options in a differnt part of QLD, they will take it and the children will move with them and play at a club close to home, thats logical I would think
One final thing, some one suggested Salary cap or some other rubbish, if my daughter was paid by any club to play at U16's, I think she would go to that club but given no clubs pay players at that age group, why say salary cap when there is no salary?
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11-08-10, 15:09
Obviously spartans haven't DEVELOPED / or don't think MUCH of their current crop of players for the under16's. They have to go out and poach players from other associations. Don't players and parents realise that playing with each other and not against, does not help their developement! What is the point of having a super teams yet never been challenged by opposition sides. More time on the bench I suppose, less court time.
You need to flip this around and ask why are these players leaving these other associations. They need to take a look at the way the bigger programs are organised and take a leaf out of their books and adapt their own programs accordingly.
Being small can sometimes have its advantages, Maroochydore are an example of a small but very effective association that are always competitive.
There is no inducement other than getting high quality coaching and being part of program that can cater for all levels or players.
This is not poaching this is providing an opportunity that would not otherwise be there. These kids are walking in the doors willingly not being dragged in kicking and screaming.
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11-08-10, 17:47
Obviously spartans haven't DEVELOPED / or don't think MUCH of their current crop of players for the under16's. They have to go out and poach players from other associations. Don't players and parents realise that playing with each other and not against, does not help their developement! What is the point of having a super teams yet never been challenged by opposition sides. More time on the bench I suppose, less court time.
The guard form Twmba that has come to SD trails is also trialing at Logan, can't call that poaching. That is a classic case of shopping around. Some clubs have rules about trialing at more than one club, not sure if SD or Logan do.
The guard form Twmba that has come to SD trails is also trialing at Logan, can't call that poaching. That is a classic case of shopping around. Some clubs have rules about trialing at more than one club, not sure if SD or Logan do.
teams cant put a ruleling on whether kids can try for a certain number of team as they are not officially a part of a program until they sign a player agreement for that club. These kids are doing the right thing by shopping around and trying to find a program that will fit them best and also the parents in these situations are allowing the kids to choose.
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12-08-10, 00:43
i think redlands have some sort of rule or policy where if you try out anywhere else you're automatically ineligible to play for them.
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12-08-10, 07:59
i think redlands have some sort of rule or policy where if you try out anywhere else you're automatically ineligible to play for them.
Wow! and Redlands can be so choosey
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12-08-10, 10:12
The guard form Twmba that has come to SD trails is also trialing at Logan, can't call that poaching. That is a classic case of shopping around. Some clubs have rules about trialing at more than one club, not sure if SD or Logan do.
Its a bit of a dangerous game to play if you are playing one association off against another., especially associations who can affford to be selective on who they take.
Most coaches have a fair clue on who they want even before the trials have commenced and people walking in should be making their decison before being asked are you going to stay.
You may not get asked the question at either end as one is assuming that you will play with the other.
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12-08-10, 11:07
The guard form Twmba that has come to SD trails is also trialing at Logan, can't call that poaching. That is a classic case of shopping around. Some clubs have rules about trialing at more than one club, not sure if SD or Logan do.
I feel sorry for small associations like Twmba . It was great to see they made it back into premier league last season in the U16's only to have their best two players gone this season. They way we are going SD and Logan will be able to field two teams each in premier league leaving only four spots for eight other associations to fight it out. This system is killing off regional basketball in Queensland.
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12-08-10, 11:13
I feel sorry for small associations like Twmba . It was great to see they made it back into premier league last season in the U16's only to have their best two players gone this season. They way we are going SD and Logan will be able to field two teams each in premier league leaving only four spots for eight other associations to fight it out. This system is killing off regional basketball in Queensland.
Would they put in two teams from one association in premier league? That doesn't sound fair at all and when you think about it those associations will not be able to get two quality coaches, so this will cripple competition.
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12-08-10, 11:29
Would they put in two teams from one association in premier league? That doesn't sound fair at all and when you think about it those associations will not be able to get two quality coaches, so this will cripple competition.
If they nominate and qualify through grading there could be as many teams as they can muster.
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12-08-10, 11:32
I feel sorry for small associations like Twmba . It was great to see they made it back into premier league last season in the U16's only to have their best two players gone this season. They way we are going SD and Logan will be able to field two teams each in premier league leaving only four spots for eight other associations to fight it out. This system is killing off regional basketball in Queensland.
The system in place makes the big Brisbane clubs stronger and the smaller associations weaker. Instead of spreading the talent over the whole south queensland region it is all being funnelled towards the bigger clubs. The previous system of each association fielding premier league teams in each age group provided a more robust competition than what is happening now.
The numpties who say that smaller associations should organise themselves better and implement programs the same as the bigger clubs, obviously have no clue about money and resources. The administrators at BQ should be making decisions to improve junior basketball over the whole state instead of looking after the 'loud barking dogs' in the Brisbane region. Perhaps they are just protecting there own associations.
Who wants a competition where two teams dominate?
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12-08-10, 11:44
The system in place makes the big Brisbane clubs stronger and the smaller associations weaker. Instead of spreading the talent over the whole south queensland region it is all being funnelled towards the bigger clubs. The previous system of each association fielding premier league teams in each age group provided a more robust competition than what is happening now.
The numpties who say that smaller associations should organise themselves better and implement programs the same as the bigger clubs, obviously have no clue about money and resources. The administrators at BQ should be making decisions to improve junior basketball over the whole state instead of looking after the 'loud barking dogs' in the Brisbane region. Perhaps they are just protecting there own associations.
Who wants a competition where two teams dominate?
The sadness of this situation is that the girls genuinely like each other and they all seem to know each other. The feeling of flogging a team your mate's in is pretty soul destroying. These kids love tough competition and close matches. Bottom of the iceberg stuff. If only the tip of the iceberg is looked after the base crumbles. Distribute the talent, educate and support the coaches and the competition will benefit and basketball in general will grow.
The sadness of this situation is that the girls genuinely like each other and they all seem to know each other. The feeling of flogging a team your mate's in is pretty soul destroying. These kids love tough competition and close matches. Bottom of the iceberg stuff. If only the tip of the iceberg is looked after the base crumbles. Distribute the talent, educate and support the coaches and the competition will benefit and basketball in general will grow.
I think that a big part of some of these kids moving to the bigger associations in the hope that their chances at making the state squad improve. Again an understandable decision be a quality player on a 'winning' team.
what teams have had their trails yet and any idea how they are shaping up?
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12-08-10, 12:38
I will be coaching a development team (Div 2) this season at one of the 'non-big-two' clubs. If I do my job well and look after the girls, who will be predominantly bottom-age, they may well be 'recruited' (there seems to be mixed opinions about whether that actually happens) for next season.
If I have delivered good value to them over the season, ie, they have had a good time and their game has improved, then the recruiters face an uphill battle. If I haven't, then they are easy pickings.
All in all, if I have ten girls who are still playing the game next year and playing it at a higher level (in terms of their own skill level) than they were at the start of this year, I've made a positive contribution.
The rest of this stuff is beyond my control.
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12-08-10, 12:43
I think that a big part of some of these kids moving to the bigger associations in the hope that their chances at making the state squad improve. Again an understandable decision be a quality player on a 'winning' team.
what teams have had their trails yet and any idea how they are shaping up?
A question to all you "basketball experts". If a talented kid stays loyal to their club, but the side isn't good enough to make premier league do they still get looked at for a STATE TEAM or do selectors only watch and care about 1st division teams and players?
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12-08-10, 13:46
I think that a big part of some of these kids moving to the bigger associations in the hope that their chances at making the state squad improve. Again an understandable decision be a quality player on a 'winning' team.
what teams have had their trails yet and any idea how they are shaping up?
I know everyone is talking about kids moving to bigger associations to get seen by selectors. In the Logan u/14's going to Hobart and also trialling for 16's for next season, who of those girls have come from other associations. Alot of those kids are home grown to my knowledge. Can anyone say any different.
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12-08-10, 14:52
A question to all you "basketball experts". If a talented kid stays loyal to their club, but the side isn't good enough to make premier league do they still get looked at for a STATE TEAM or do selectors only watch and care about 1st division teams and players?
yes. have seen this happen a few times recently. quite a few kids who have come from toowoomba have been in this situation. josh derksen being one as a bottom age u16 kid. plenty of other players considered from div2 teams as well.
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12-08-10, 16:00
Sometimes it is not a case of staying loyal to your club, most kids do and will continue to do because it is their social outing for most, but when they wish to play the rep season and the association they are in cannot even put numbers to the floor for them, (especially when they get to the older age groups) the ones who really want to play have to go and look elsewhere because otherwise they become just one of the forgotten ones. It really does just depend on the kid and how desperate they are to continue. I don't think it has anything to do with whether it is fielding a team for Southern Cup or Premier League. It is for the kid's love of the game.
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12-08-10, 16:05
Sometimes it is not a case of staying loyal to your club, most kids do and will continue to do because it is their social outing for most, but when they wish to play the rep season and the association they are in cannot even put numbers to the floor for them, (especially when they get to the older age groups) the ones who really want to play have to go and look elsewhere because otherwise they become just one of the forgotten ones. It really does just depend on the kid and how desperate they are to continue. I don't think it has anything to do with whether it is fielding a team for Southern Cup or Premier League. It is for the kid's love of the game.
Here here. I'm sure some expert will pipe up with this comment
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12-08-10, 23:14
I will be coaching a development team (Div 2) this season at one of the 'non-big-two' clubs. If I do my job well and look after the girls, who will be predominantly bottom-age, they may well be 'recruited' (there seems to be mixed opinions about whether that actually happens) for next season.
If I have delivered good value to them over the season, ie, they have had a good time and their game has improved, then the recruiters face an uphill battle. If I haven't, then they are easy pickings.
All in all, if I have ten girls who are still playing the game next year and playing it at a higher level (in terms of their own skill level) than they were at the start of this year, I've made a positive contribution.
The rest of this stuff is beyond my control.
This is the best comment I've read on here for a long time. Someone who is willing to step up and take responsibility for their own actions and how it directly affects their players. All the best to you and your team this season. With this kind of attitude, I'm sure you'll do well.
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13-08-10, 15:49
As part of our commitment to develop our athletes Southern Districts Basketball Association has again accepted the invitation to nominate 4 junior men’s and women’s teams in the under 15s and 17s Pacific Coast Slam tournament.
This invitation only tournament brings together state teams from all over Australia and New Zealand for this 6 day tournament. In 2011 the Powerade Slam will include teams from NSW Country, NSW Metropolitan, Vic Country, South Australia, Queensland, New Zealand, North Coast All Stars and Western Australia
Venue. Port Macquarie Sports Stadium.
Dates. Thursday 16th January – Spartans teams arrive.
Friday 17th January - Competition commences
Wednesday 22nd January - finals are played.
Eligibility. Under 17s Athletes born 1995 and 1996 and who are members of Southern Districts and are not in a current state program. Under 15s Athletes born 1997 and 1998 and who are members of Southern Districts and are not in a current state program.
Under 17s Men’s coach Leroy Loggins
Under 17s Women’s coach Steve Lennon
Under 15s Men’s coach John Gryparis
Under 15s Woman’s coach Matt Beggs
Cost $975 per athlete includes transport, accommodations, 3 meals per day, referee fees, team nomination and playing fees. The trial date will be advertised on the SDBAL website.
All Athletes interested in playing must email sdbal@bigpond.net.au to register their intentions by no later than the 30th September and be committed to training during the Christmas school holidays.
Enquiries email sdbal@bigpond.net.au
Didnt that used to be a BQ thing? Like BQ took prospective state players there even if they didnt play for Spartans? Amazing how the lines between BQ and Spartans get so blurred all the time. Might be why nobody is stepping forward to fund an NBL program that "BQ" is involved in?
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13-08-10, 20:46
As part of our commitment to develop our athletes Southern Districts Basketball Association has again accepted the invitation to nominate 4 junior men’s and women’s teams in the under 15s and 17s Pacific Coast Slam tournament.
This invitation only tournament brings together state teams from all over Australia and New Zealand for this 6 day tournament. In 2011 the Powerade Slam will include teams from NSW Country, NSW Metropolitan, Vic Country, South Australia, Queensland, New Zealand, North Coast All Stars and Western Australia
Venue. Port Macquarie Sports Stadium.
Dates. Thursday 16th January – Spartans teams arrive.
Friday 17th January - Competition commences
Wednesday 22nd January - finals are played.
Eligibility. Under 17s Athletes born 1995 and 1996 and who are members of Southern Districts and are not in a current state program. Under 15s Athletes born 1997 and 1998 and who are members of Southern Districts and are not in a current state program.
Under 17s Men’s coach Leroy Loggins
Under 17s Women’s coach Steve Lennon
Under 15s Men’s coach John Gryparis
Under 15s Woman’s coach Matt Beggs
Cost $975 per athlete includes transport, accommodations, 3 meals per day, referee fees, team nomination and playing fees. The trial date will be advertised on the SDBAL website.
All Athletes interested in playing must email sdbal@bigpond.net.au to register their intentions by no later than the 30th September and be committed to training during the Christmas school holidays.
Enquiries email sdbal@bigpond.net.au
This makes a mockery of the Blue Chip Program
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13-08-10, 21:37
How long until BQ goes down the path of Ed QLD and introduce post code zones. It might even require some form of making basketball more easly available to the masses like we small Ass. out in the boon docks.
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13-08-10, 21:39
Didnt that used to be a BQ thing? Like BQ took prospective state players there even if they didnt play for Spartans? Amazing how the lines between BQ and Spartans get so blurred all the time. Might be why nobody is stepping forward to fund an NBL program that "BQ" is involved in?
SD was invited by the tournament organisers along with the BQ sanctioned/selected teams. Same status as the North Coast All Stars that have also been invited.
Is also giving some fringe kids the opportunity to play at at higher level. Is attractive at about half the cost that the Blue Chip has been quoting.
SD was invited by the tournament organisers along with the BQ sanctioned/selected teams. Same status as the North Coast All Stars that have also been invited.
Is also giving some fringe kids the opportunity to play at at higher level. Is attractive at about half the cost that the Blue Chip has been quoting.
Whats the big deal, SWM were attending this tournament long before BQ decided to send teams to this event. SD sent 2 teams and actually won the under 17 boys comp last year. So associations were playing in this a long time before BQ got involved.
No idea why BQ continually decides to send teams to this overpriced second rate comp? The real compettion at this tiime of the year takes place in Melbourne. Much more affordable than school holiday rates at Coff Harbour and the standard is much higher than this event!
I agree. Would much rather take team to Melbourne than Coffs this time of year.
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14-08-10, 10:04
How long until BQ goes down the path of Ed QLD and introduce post code zones. It might even require some form of making basketball more easly available to the masses like we small Ass. out in the boon docks.
Certainly something to think about and I for one think it has some merit.
Playing sport should not just be about winning and what is best for "me" - it should be about learning life skills such as loyalty, respect, perseverance, tolerance and graciousness - in my humble opinion.
What happens to these children who seemingly swap associations because they don't like their coach, or they don't get on with a team mate, or they don't get the court time they think they deserve, when they are out in the big wide world? What if they don't like their boss or don't get on with a work mate - will mummy and daddy just find them another job?
I agree. Would much rather take team to Melbourne than Coffs this time of year.
You and me agreeing on something, and it is in writing!! ha ha ha! Serioulsy thou it is a no brainer, and it is were these teams really need to play. Leave the CH tourny for the clubs I say.
Good luck today, you should win both.
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14-08-10, 18:41
I agree. Would much rather take team to Melbourne than Coffs this time of year.
Looked into it last year in 16s when the team finished Classics on a high because of the way they were playing. Had to call in a favour to have our late nomination considered (be sure to contact them early if you decide to go!) and the standard of the competition rosters was certainly impressive.
We didnt go because our state girls were on a scheduled rest weekend (and no coach wants to have a state rep injury 2 weeks before the Nats on his conscience). Can advise my Managers had the whole mission costed and it's very affordable (accom. was surprisingly reasonable for self contained, convenient and secure apartments) . My parent group are so impressed with the concept they've asked me to look into the 18's for this year.
Dont know that I would want to use it as an alternative to Qlds Classics, (short as they are in 18s these days) but for sure a good opportunity to have your team challenged in a quasi-Nationals tournament.
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15-08-10, 21:28
millie disteldorf made the qld schools 15s state honourary team and played absolutely outstanding. congratulations millie.
she definitely deserved it
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16-08-10, 09:14
she definitely deserved it
You will find the deafening silence on this continued "advertisement" is because people dont want to hurt the feelings of such a young child. Too many people there and saw that week to fool anybody by writing on bendoes.
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16-08-10, 13:31
I know everyone is talking about kids moving to bigger associations to get seen by selectors. In the Logan u/14's going to Hobart and also trialling for 16's for next season, who of those girls have come from other associations. Alot of those kids are home grown to my knowledge. Can anyone say any different.
I don't know all the facts but I do know this much from talking to the other parents and my own experience;
of the U/14 Logan team, I don't think they lost all year, we came closest to beating them twice twice but didn't finish them off so obviously they had a number of players/depth whereas other clubs, like ours, didnt
The home grown players, have always played at Logan I think are
Bridget, always Logan, we first played against her at U12's
Kelli ann, Annie? or some similar name and Tegan the same as Bridget
The other players;
Jess, I think there are 2 players with the same name, one Jess was at GC but is now at Logan the other I think is the same as above but I dont know
Whitney? the big tall girl, this is her first season, I think she used to play netball
A girl called Jana or something similar, I think she has always played for Logan
I'm sure I missed someone but anyway, as can be seen, most of the players in this team has been at the same club and not come in from another, I'd like to know how Logan does it because thats definitely not the case for us. If only we could keep our players, we would be stronger and more competitive
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16-08-10, 13:51
2011 State Championship Hosts Announced
Basketball Queensland would like to congratulate all the associations that have been selected to host the 2011 State Championships
U12’s – Northside Wizards
U14 Girls – Ipswich
U14 Boys – Brisbane
U16 Girls – Townsville
U16 Boys – Southern Districts
U18’s – Gold Coast
The hosts for the 2012 State Championships will be announced in the coming weeks.
2012
U12's - Northside Wizards
U14 Girls - Ipswich
U14 Boys - Logan
U16 Girls - Southern Districts
U16 Boys - Townsville
U18's - Brisbane
How/why do Northside have a monopoly on the U12's
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16-08-10, 16:07
2012
U12's - Northside Wizards
U14 Girls - Ipswich
U14 Boys - Logan
U16 Girls - Southern Districts
U16 Boys - Townsville
U18's - Brisbane
How/why do Northside have a monopoly on the U12's
5 quality courts at the same venue, plenty of free parking, relatively close to the highway & airport....... why would they move it?
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18-08-10, 08:00
5 quality courts at the same venue, plenty of free parking, relatively close to the highway & airport....... why would they move it?
then why can't other age groups be given same venue priorities as at NS...seems unfair to other age groups that haven't got same priorities?????
5 quality courts at the same venue, plenty of free parking, relatively close to the highway & airport....... why would they move it?
Great venue, no doubt.
My probelm is the same with GC, Logan and other council run facilites, the profit leaves the sport and ends up in council coffers. Make no mistake about it either u 12 is the biggest cash cow on the classic calender. Parents always travel with the kids. BCC would be loving this event at their venue.
I know this site is run by Wizard guys, so I would be interested to know if you as a club make any money at all by hosting this event. Let me be clear here, I think Wiz do a fantastic job hosting the event. Just curious if it is a money spinner for the club.
Gold Coast Al
18-08-10, 08:35
then why can't other age groups be given same venue priorities as at NS...seems unfair to other age groups that haven't got same priorities?????
There are set court number requirements for each age group, which impacts which Association has the ability to apply and host each age groups Championships.
U/12's run both boys and girls together and require 5 courts, so Northside is a very good fit as it is 5 courts in the one venue.
If it is okay for BQ to split othergroups into boys and girls why not under 12.
Unregistered
18-08-10, 10:05
14s and 16s are split due to number of teams. larger number of teams in those age groups compared to 12s and 18s.
Unregistered
18-08-10, 10:50
14s and 16s are split due to number of teams. larger number of teams in those age groups compared to 12s and 18s.
Grading dates
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Does anyone know when gradings are on?
Premier league Oct 9/10th
Southern Cup Oct 16/17th
Only know dates not venues
Unregistered
19-08-10, 12:41
Grading dates
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Originally Posted by Unregistered
Does anyone know when gradings are on?
Premier league Oct 9/10th
Southern Cup Oct 16/17th
Only know dates not venues
Who do you think are the top 8 clubs are for this age group?
Unregistered
19-08-10, 13:14
Who do you think are the top 8 clubs are for this age group?
Top 4 in the list should be around at the end of the year. Way too early to pick as yet.
SD
Logan
Runaway Bay
Ipswich
Gold Coast
BBI
Maroochydore
Northside
Unregistered
21-08-10, 12:57
A question to all you "basketball experts". If a talented kid stays loyal to their club, but the side isn't good enough to make premier league do they still get looked at for a STATE TEAM or do selectors only watch and care about 1st division teams and players?
That is very good point. I would like an expert (excuse the punt) explanation to this question.
Unregistered
23-08-10, 12:28
That is very good point. I would like an expert (excuse the punt) explanation to this question.
A question to all you "basketball experts". If a talented kid stays loyal to their club, but the side isn't good enough to make premier league do they still get looked at for a STATE TEAM or do selectors only watch and care about 1st division teams and players?
That is very good point. I would like an expert (excuse the punt) explanation to this question.
The fact that these kids are moving around probably answers your own question. Racking my brain I cant think of players that have been selected out of a Div2 team.
The route would be through the Blue Chip selection process and hopefully the BQ selectors would be keeping an eye on your progress.
But at the same time everyone knows that the PL is where you have the chance to prove yourself on a weekly basis hence people are moving to the big clubs.
Unregistered
23-08-10, 13:20
The blue chip girls trained yesterday but Bridget from Logan didn't train and she left early, she certainly seemed to have trouble walking. Does anyone know what's wrong?
Unregistered
23-08-10, 14:31
The blue chip girls trained yesterday but Bridget from Logan didn't train and she left early, she certainly seemed to have trouble walking. Does anyone know what's wrong?
Groin strain from training last week. Needs to rest it.
A question to all you "basketball experts". If a talented kid stays loyal to their club, but the side isn't good enough to make premier league do they still get looked at for a STATE TEAM or do selectors only watch and care about 1st division teams and players?
That is very good point. I would like an expert (excuse the punt) explanation to this question.
The fact that these kids are moving around probably answers your own question. Racking my brain I cant think of players that have been selected out of a Div2 team.
The route would be through the Blue Chip selection process and hopefully the BQ selectors would be keeping an eye on your progress.
But at the same time everyone knows that the PL is where you have the chance to prove yourself on a weekly basis hence people are moving to the big clubs.
16 boys two years ago josh d was picked from div2. and pretty sure he was leading scorer for the team at nats, he tore it up. seen girls picked from div3 before. what div they play doesn't mean they aren't good enough.
Unregistered
24-08-10, 11:02
Name names
LOGAN PL
Kirby Lennan
Taylor Mosslar
Rhianna Moyle
Bridget O'Brien
Jordan Siulepa
Maddy Sanderson
Jess Sanderson
Maggie Pitt
Shahana Utia
Sammy Pollock
Couple of blown ins there but looks like a strong team, only one bottom ager.
Unregistered
24-08-10, 11:29
LOGAN PL
Kirby Lennan
Taylor Mosslar
Rhianna Moyle
Bridget O'Brien
Jordan Siulepa
Maddy Sanderson
Jess Sanderson
Maggie Pitt
Shahana Utia
Sammy Pollock
Couple of blown ins there but looks like a strong team, only one bottom ager.
Who made the teams for Runaway Bay, Sth Districts and Iipswich?
Unregistered
24-08-10, 13:09
Who made the teams for Runaway Bay, Sth Districts and Iipswich?
SD PL
Tyeka Close
Sammi Deakin-Sharpe
Emily Derksen
Milly Disteldorf
Elisha Keepa
Bride Kennedy-Hopoate
Pene Paenga
Larnie Scheibner
Olivia Skippen
Hanna Tusa
Kristy Wallace
Hannah White
Courtney Woods
Teisha Woods
Unregistered
24-08-10, 13:43
SD PL
Tyeka Close
Sammi Deakin-Sharpe
Emily Derksen
Milly Disteldorf
Elisha Keepa
Bride Kennedy-Hopoate
Pene Paenga
Larnie Scheibner
Olivia Skippen
Hanna Tusa
Kristy Wallace
Hannah White
Courtney Woods
Teisha Woods
14 players are some going to be cut ???
Unregistered
24-08-10, 16:21
LOGAN PL
Kirby Lennan
Taylor Mosslar
Rhianna Moyle
Bridget O'Brien
Jordan Siulepa
Maddy Sanderson
Jess Sanderson
Maggie Pitt
Shahana Utia
Sammy Pollock
Couple of blown ins there but looks like a strong team, only one bottom ager.
Plenty of height in this team plus good speed, I pick this team to do very well
Who's the bottom ager?
Unregistered
26-08-10, 12:42
NS PL
Bianca Ah-Ken
Vivien Balmer
Nathalie Braunsberger
Gaby Edwards
Stephanie Elphick
Regan McCarty
Charlotte McFerran
Jasmine Meaghan
Hannah Morris
Gabby O'Brien
Unregistered
26-08-10, 16:49
Plenty of height in this team plus good speed, I pick this team to do very well
Who's the bottom ager?
Bridget O'Brien. Very strong player who will more than hold her own in this age group.
Unregistered
27-08-10, 14:25
SD PL
Tyeka Close
Sammi Deakin-Sharpe
Emily Derksen
Milly Disteldorf
Elisha Keepa
Bride Kennedy-Hopoate
Pene Paenga
Larnie Scheibner
Olivia Skippen
Hanna Tusa
Kristy Wallace
Hannah White
Courtney Woods
Teisha Woods
This can't be right it is a combination team surely....it is a combination of 5/6/7 clubs....what happen to the other kids from Spartens...cut....quit..???? really strong second team????
This can't be right it is a combination team surely....it is a combination of 5/6/7 clubs....what happen to the other kids from Spartens...cut....quit..???? really strong second team????
haha....Its says 'SD PL' so im guessing thats correct. The last couple of weeks there has been alot of talk about kids moving associations. Definatley gonna be a tough team and will make for interesting games.
Unregistered
30-08-10, 11:11
BBI PL
Emily Bowden
Chloe Collins
Shannae Craig
Kayla Cronji
Taylor Fogarty
Ashwa Heli
Jemma Kahout
Georgia McCarron
Cheyenne Niania
Guanii Taufua
Unregistered
30-08-10, 14:56
haha....Its says 'SD PL' so im guessing thats correct. The last couple of weeks there has been alot of talk about kids moving associations. Definatley gonna be a tough team and will make for interesting games.
This looks like a very good team and SD have recruited well.
I pick them to be very hard to beat, perhaps Logan may get close, perhaps RB but I don't see any other team having this depth of playing talent, maybe they have 2-3 players but this looks like a strong team right across the court
Unregistered
31-08-10, 11:25
This looks like a very good team and SD have recruited well.
I pick them to be very hard to beat, perhaps Logan may get close, perhaps RB but I don't see any other team having this depth of playing talent, maybe they have 2-3 players but this looks like a strong team right across the court
Really only two players that have come from other associations which is less or on par with what is happening all over the comp.
6 or 7 bottom age kids that have come straight out of under 14's and will fit right in with the top agers that played in the team last year.
NS PL
Bianca Ah-Ken
Vivien Balmer
Nathalie Braunsberger
Gaby Edwards
Stephanie Elphick
Regan McCarty
Charlotte McFerran
Jasmine Meaghan
Hannah Morris
Gabby O'Brien
All but one of these girls are bottom age. A very young group. This season should be a great lead up for them for the season after.
Unregistered
01-09-10, 12:23
Really only two players that have come from other associations which is less or on par with what is happening all over the comp.
6 or 7 bottom age kids that have come straight out of under 14's and will fit right in with the top agers that played in the team last year.
Absolutely, most of the teams have "recruited" players from other associations for this year, SD I think has the lowest number but I'm not sure.
To say that they are very strong however before they have even played grading let alone competition games is most likely a comment from a supporter with a one eyed view.
I'm not saying they will not do well but I am saying lets see what they've got before any comments like this can be made
Unregistered
01-09-10, 13:33
All but one of these girls are bottom age. A very young group. This season should be a great lead up for them for the season after.
Could also be interpreted as there is big hole in the NS u16 program for this age group.
Unregistered
01-09-10, 17:48
Similar to logan group in this age group a few years ago, basically all bottom age.
Could also be interpreted as there is big hole in the NS u16 program for this age group.
Wouldn't say a big hole in the age groups as the team has been filled. The lack of top age players doesn't mean anything
Wouldn't say a big hole in the age groups as the team has been filled. The lack of top age players doesn't mean anything
It does mean that this group will more than likely play SC and not PL. Same group played SC 2 years ago in the U 14's.
Unregistered
02-09-10, 12:31
Wouldn't say a big hole in the age groups as the team has been filled. The lack of top age players doesn't mean anything
Disagree, the amount of what is learnt from Top aged players not only playing with them but also training week to week against them is of vital importance to the bottom aged kids. Its sets the standards for the year and provides guidance for the younger kids to follow.
The idea is that the young ones should be pushed right out their comfort zone at the start of the season and gradually become more comfortable as the year progresses until they take the spots of the older kids who then move on. i.e. its generational.
But if there are no top aged kids around at NS that is another issue altogether.
Disagree, the amount of what is learnt from Top aged players not only playing with them but also training week to week against them is of vital importance to the bottom aged kids. Its sets the standards for the year and provides guidance for the younger kids to follow.
The idea is that the young ones should be pushed right out their comfort zone at the start of the season and gradually become more comfortable as the year progresses until they take the spots of the older kids who then move on. i.e. its generational.
But if there are no top aged kids around at NS that is another issue altogether.
Would training with the u18 girls solve this problem? I believe it would
Unregistered
08-09-10, 14:59
Any players involved in Blue Chip apparently can play finals
as long as they let BQ know. After their club final they
can join the Blue Chip Squad down the coast. Heard this
was ok. Just check with BQ.
Grading for this age groups:
PL - Auchenflower
SC - Ipswich the week after PL.
Unregistered
13-09-10, 12:58
Any players involved in Blue Chip apparently can play finals
as long as they let BQ know. After their club final they
can join the Blue Chip Squad down the coast. Heard this
was ok. Just check with BQ.
Did anyone watch the Girls squad at Runaway Bay? Great to see Krystal back and running well on her ankle, we all hope she has a big year
Seems like this group has a few injuries creeping in though, particularly on Sunday, Bridget looked extremely sore as did a few others who struggled . It would be a tragedy for Logan if Bridget couldn't play to her best at Nationals let alone other clubs who have tired players being pushed hard and obviously want those players peaking for this event. All that work and effort to be in Hobart only to be under performing when it really matters
I wonder if this is because some of these players do too much, like training pretty much every day followed by a weekend that started with playing a final and then having high intensity training straight after for two days?.
Maybe there needs to be a better program of managing injuries before they become more serious? Maybe players should be forced to rest at times so that they don't burn out
Thoughts anyone?
Unregistered
13-09-10, 13:10
I totally agree with the training loads some of these kids do are way too much. Too many coaches think more is better. Wheras quality beats quantity any day. One or two quality sessions with a club game and rep game is plenty for young athletes. How many of them are asked to commit 7 days a week and stand around at training being bored shitless by over talking coaches trying to practice a myriad of game plays that in the heat of the battle get forgotten. Brett Maher said at a coaches clinic I attended that it is important to do a few things well and to throw away all the rubbish. Part of quality coaching is to bring only 1 new thing each couple of weeks and for the team to do it well. These athletes are still developing and growing and need appropriate recovery sessions, Sports science will tell you that a full training needs to be followed by recovery. how many unpaid volunteer coaches understand this and let there athletes play and perform each and every day. You dont have to worry about burnout, injuries will finish their careers.
Unregistered
13-09-10, 13:18
Did anyone watch the Girls squad at Runaway Bay? Great to see Krystal back and running well on her ankle, we all hope she has a big year
Seems like this group has a few injuries creeping in though, particularly on Sunday, Bridget looked extremely sore as did a few others who struggled . It would be a tragedy for Logan if Bridget couldn't play to her best at Nationals let alone other clubs who have tired players being pushed hard and obviously want those players peaking for this event. All that work and effort to be in Hobart only to be under performing when it really matters
I wonder if this is because some of these players do too much, like training pretty much every day followed by a weekend that started with playing a final and then having high intensity training straight after for two days?.
Maybe there needs to be a better program of managing injuries before they become more serious? Maybe players should be forced to rest at times so that they don't burn out
Thoughts anyone?
As Bridget's mum, she is managing a slight hamstring injury so when a drill involves that area she sits out. She also played a grand final that morning and didn't come off as they only had six kids. Remember it's not only basketball that tires these kids it's also school. Holidays soon so they have a rest. Always is a difficult time of the year when Nationals are on, new rep team begins and finals are on. The word 'underperform' is a little harsh. The kids will give their all at Nationals. Go Thunder.
Unregistered
13-09-10, 13:42
Grading for this age groups:
PL - Auchenflower
SC - Ipswich the week after PL.
What about other age groups and times where did u find this out
Unregistered
14-09-10, 13:10
As Bridget's mum, she is managing a slight hamstring injury so when a drill involves that area she sits out. She also played a grand final that morning and didn't come off as they only had six kids. Remember it's not only basketball that tires these kids it's also school. Holidays soon so they have a rest. Always is a difficult time of the year when Nationals are on, new rep team begins and finals are on. The word 'underperform' is a little harsh. The kids will give their all at Nationals. Go Thunder.
I think Bridget would play her heart out with broken bones, as would all the Logan team, that attitude and courage is why they were undefeated all season. To use the term underperform for any member of this term is crap, pure and simple, GO LOGAN
What about other age groups and times where did u find this out
i have posted the other age groups in the appropriate thread. Emails from BQ. Your associations should have this info for you.
Did anyone watch the Girls squad at Runaway Bay? Great to see Krystal back and running well on her ankle, we all hope she has a big year
Seems like this group has a few injuries creeping in though, particularly on Sunday, Bridget looked extremely sore as did a few others who struggled . It would be a tragedy for Logan if Bridget couldn't play to her best at Nationals let alone other clubs who have tired players being pushed hard and obviously want those players peaking for this event. All that work and effort to be in Hobart only to be under performing when it really matters
I wonder if this is because some of these players do too much, like training pretty much every day followed by a weekend that started with playing a final and then having high intensity training straight after for two days?.
Maybe there needs to be a better program of managing injuries before they become more serious? Maybe players should be forced to rest at times so that they don't burn out
Thoughts anyone?
I agree these players are doing alot and it will take it's toll. I also agree with the points made about it being a tough time of year with all this stuff going on for the players. If you add to this the length of the break between Classics and nationals, the rep trails for this moving from 14's to 16's which does mean some new rules like the zone. These teams aren't nessecarily going to be at there best as they are not completely focused on that one event. Its been a LONG season for these teams and to finish it with nationals is great. Good luck to logan and any other team that is on they're way to nationals. Enjoy it!!!
Unregistered
14-09-10, 13:52
Did anyone watch the Girls squad at Runaway Bay? Great to see Krystal back and running well on her ankle, we all hope she has a big year
Seems like this group has a few injuries creeping in though, particularly on Sunday, Bridget looked extremely sore as did a few others who struggled . It would be a tragedy for Logan if Bridget couldn't play to her best at Nationals let alone other clubs who have tired players being pushed hard and obviously want those players peaking for this event. All that work and effort to be in Hobart only to be under performing when it really matters
I wonder if this is because some of these players do too much, like training pretty much every day followed by a weekend that started with playing a final and then having high intensity training straight after for two days?.
Maybe there needs to be a better program of managing injuries before they become more serious? Maybe players should be forced to rest at times so that they don't burn out
Thoughts anyone?
Maybe BQ should think of aligning the seasons to coincide with the rest of the Eastern States , I can think of no good reason that the season starts in November (trialling in August) , stops in December starts again in January finishes in March then State championships are held in April.
Our group has now been together for over 13 or 14 months and still have to go away and play in Hobart whilst preparing for another rep season. All this while club and schools is going on along with Bluechip and trials for the upcoming season.
Trying to keep the group fresh is the biggest problem and I think most are now keen to get into the next season playing with different players, new offences etc etc.
There may also be a tendancy to over train but these kids are doing so much their levels of fitness should be maintained.
Rather than managing injuries, injury prevention is the answer and should be mandatory for any Coach who is serious about taking a team at this level and for this amount of time.
Unregistered
14-09-10, 14:01
Maybe BQ should think of aligning the seasons to coincide with the rest of the Eastern States , I can think of no good reason that the season starts in November (trialling in August) , stops in December starts again in January finishes in March then State championships are held in April.
Our group has now been together for over 13 or 14 months and still have to go away and play in Hobart whilst preparing for another rep season. All this while club and schools is going on along with Bluechip and trials for the upcoming season.
Trying to keep the group fresh is the biggest problem and I think most are now keen to get into the next season playing with different players, new offences etc etc.
There may also be a tendancy to over train but these kids are doing so much their levels of fitness should be maintained.
Rather than managing injuries, injury prevention is the answer and should be mandatory for any Coach who is serious about taking a team at this level and for this amount of time.
Injury prevention is always the way to go but doesn't always work out that way. 13 year old kids tend to get hurt doing the silliest of things eg school sport or playing with friends. As athletes develop they learn about their bodies and start to think about self preservation. At 13 this is hard to drum home. They still take risks and continue to do a drill that may hurt instead of thinking to stop and ice. They still might jump on a horse, grab a pair of roller blades, ice skate, ski and so on. So injuries don't always happen at basketball they can happen anywhere. Unfortunately the kids are playing in so many teams, coaches lose control over their players preparation and injuries will always be a coaches nightmare.
Unregistered
16-09-10, 20:20
Maybe BQ should think of aligning the seasons to coincide with the rest of the Eastern States , I can think of no good reason that the season starts in November (trialling in August) , stops in December starts again in January finishes in March then State championships are held in April.
Our group has now been together for over 13 or 14 months and still have to go away and play in Hobart whilst preparing for another rep season. All this while club and schools is going on along with Bluechip and trials for the upcoming season.
Trying to keep the group fresh is the biggest problem and I think most are now keen to get into the next season playing with different players, new offences etc etc.
There may also be a tendancy to over train but these kids are doing so much their levels of fitness should be maintained.
Rather than managing injuries, injury prevention is the answer and should be mandatory for any Coach who is serious about taking a team at this level and for this amount of time.
its all $$$$$$$$$$$ if no one plays theres no $$$$$$$$$$$$
Unregistered
22-09-10, 20:02
What do you do when your coach has no idea what they are doing? Do you stay loyal or do you move your child so that they can learn something elsewhere? Staying, is going to be a big risk for us this year, a risk that we just cannot afford to take. We pay a lot of money for this sport, for the best that our child can get, and to get rubbish coaching, with rubbish choices is a very expensive let down. Time will tell when our team goes to grading and we don't make premiere league, or we just scrape in, JUST. It's going to be a tough, frustrating season. Do I carry on, or pull out while we can? Some food for thought!!!
Unregistered
22-09-10, 20:26
What do you do when your coach has no idea what they are doing? Do you stay loyal or do you move your child so that they can learn something elsewhere? Staying, is going to be a big risk for us this year, a risk that we just cannot afford to take. We pay a lot of money for this sport, for the best that our child can get, and to get rubbish coaching, with rubbish choices is a very expensive let down. Time will tell when our team goes to grading and we don't make premiere league, or we just scrape in, JUST. It's going to be a tough, frustrating season. Do I carry on, or pull out while we can? Some food for thought!!!
do what makes your kid happy.....you are not playing......!!!
Unregistered
22-09-10, 23:50
What do you do when your coach has no idea what they are doing? Do you stay loyal or do you move your child so that they can learn something elsewhere? Staying, is going to be a big risk for us this year, a risk that we just cannot afford to take. We pay a lot of money for this sport, for the best that our child can get, and to get rubbish coaching, with rubbish choices is a very expensive let down. Time will tell when our team goes to grading and we don't make premiere league, or we just scrape in, JUST. It's going to be a tough, frustrating season. Do I carry on, or pull out while we can? Some food for thought!!!
Better still...you obviously know more so just step up and tell the Coach to piss off and you'll coach them! Simple?
What do you do when your coach has no idea what they are doing? Do you stay loyal or do you move your child so that they can learn something elsewhere? Staying, is going to be a big risk for us this year, a risk that we just cannot afford to take. We pay a lot of money for this sport, for the best that our child can get, and to get rubbish coaching, with rubbish choices is a very expensive let down. Time will tell when our team goes to grading and we don't make premiere league, or we just scrape in, JUST. It's going to be a tough, frustrating season. Do I carry on, or pull out while we can? Some food for thought!!!
Maybe if you really are has knowledgeable as you allude to above; you should have gotten involved along time ago? Why did you not get elected in your clubs management comittee? Get your self on the juniour rep comittttee to ensure that these coaches that "have no idea" do not get appoiinted?
In most cases it is a lot easier to bitch and whinge. Rolling your sleeves up and doing something to actually help is a lot harder.
Have you considered that it might be you "who has no idea"?
My advise to you is to stay where you are because no one else needs any more parents with your attitude at their club.
Unregistered
23-09-10, 10:34
What do you do when your coach has no idea what they are doing? Do you stay loyal or do you move your child so that they can learn something elsewhere? Staying, is going to be a big risk for us this year, a risk that we just cannot afford to take. We pay a lot of money for this sport, for the best that our child can get, and to get rubbish coaching, with rubbish choices is a very expensive let down. Time will tell when our team goes to grading and we don't make premiere league, or we just scrape in, JUST. It's going to be a tough, frustrating season. Do I carry on, or pull out while we can? Some food for thought!!!
With grading 2 weeks away and teams selected and training it seems that your only option would be a change of coach and hope to reduce the damage.
Unregistered
23-09-10, 11:49
Maybe if you really are has knowledgeable as you allude to above; you should have gotten involved along time ago? Why did you not get elected in your clubs management comittee? Get your self on the juniour rep comittttee to ensure that these coaches that "have no idea" do not get appoiinted?
In most cases it is a lot easier to bitch and whinge. Rolling your sleeves up and doing something to actually help is a lot harder.
Have you considered that it might be you "who has no idea"?
My advise to you is to stay where you are because no one else needs any more parents with your attitude at their club.
I'm thinking that is a bit harsh. My kids nearly finished and heading into Snr basketball now, but in that time we have come across an incompetant coach or two, not necessarily our kids team coach. I feel sorry for the kid and family playing and supporting in that situation, it takes great strength to turn up each week. And just because someone has done a coaching course does not make them competant, to be a good coach is actually a real gift. By experience, I've come across 10% excellent coaches, 30% good coaches, 50% coaches volunteering their time and doing their best and progressively learning in a sport they love and 10% no idea whatsoever.
Unregistered
23-09-10, 13:28
I'm thinking that is a bit harsh. My kids nearly finished and heading into Snr basketball now, but in that time we have come across an incompetant coach or two, not necessarily our kids team coach. I feel sorry for the kid and family playing and supporting in that situation, it takes great strength to turn up each week. And just because someone has done a coaching course does not make them competant, to be a good coach is actually a real gift. By experience, I've come across 10% excellent coaches, 30% good coaches, 50% coaches volunteering their time and doing their best and progressively learning in a sport they love and 10% no idea whatsoever.
Well said. Parents actually know more than what they are given credit for. Shane Heal (A parent), Michael Jordan (A parent)....Don't get me wrong, it's better to have any coach than none, but this is an important year. And yes, the child doesn't want to play any more and has lost interest, but I will not let her give up, so for some to say, what does the child want, I will never let my child pull out and break her commitment, rather, I would like to inject excitement into her game.
What do you do when your coach has no idea what they are doing? Do you stay loyal or do you move your child so that they can learn something elsewhere? Staying, is going to be a big risk for us this year, a risk that we just cannot afford to take. We pay a lot of money for this sport, for the best that our child can get, and to get rubbish coaching, with rubbish choices is a very expensive let down. Time will tell when our team goes to grading and we don't make premiere league, or we just scrape in, JUST. It's going to be a tough, frustrating season. Do I carry on, or pull out while we can? Some food for thought!!!
If clubs are going to be implementing that policy like spartans good luck getting a new team. But I agree with the other post...do whatever makes the kid happy. She probably has alot of freinds etc. in that place and upping and leaving may not be the best thing for them. Also why not talk to someone on the commity about it, see what they can do?
Whatever you do, you need to do it quick!
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23-09-10, 13:56
What do you do when your coach has no idea what they are doing? Do you stay loyal or do you move your child so that they can learn something elsewhere? Staying, is going to be a big risk for us this year, a risk that we just cannot afford to take. We pay a lot of money for this sport, for the best that our child can get, and to get rubbish coaching, with rubbish choices is a very expensive let down. Time will tell when our team goes to grading and we don't make premiere league, or we just scrape in, JUST. It's going to be a tough, frustrating season. Do I carry on, or pull out while we can? Some food for thought!!!
Hopefully,you do know what you are talking about. A lot of parents don't. Many have never played and some have unrealistic expectations of their child's ability, a lot of them are great. It is most likely too late to change now, teams are picked, so you might get up and see if they can use an assistant coach or just some help at training. You should have done your homework a long time ago and seen this coming and either put your name down to coach or assist or sent your child to other tryouts at other associations. Other tryouts are a big call if this is a one off season and the next one will be good. It also very highly depends if your child is happy playing there and what her goals are. If you have to stay, keep it positive in front of your child and everyone else, and don't get caught out again. Try and help, don't sit back and whinge it will poison the experience for everyone.
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23-09-10, 14:32
Hopefully,you do know what you are talking about. A lot of parents don't. Many have never played and some have unrealistic expectations of their child's ability, a lot of them are great. It is most likely too late to change now, teams are picked, so you might get up and see if they can use an assistant coach or just some help at training. You should have done your homework a long time ago and seen this coming and either put your name down to coach or assist or sent your child to other tryouts at other associations. Other tryouts are a big call if this is a one off season and the next one will be good. It also very highly depends if your child is happy playing there and what her goals are. If you have to stay, keep it positive in front of your child and everyone else, and don't get caught out again. Try and help, don't sit back and whinge it will poison the experience for everyone.
Now thats what I call a positive solution, Great advice.
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23-09-10, 23:16
What do you do when your coach has no idea what they are doing? Do you stay loyal or do you move your child so that they can learn something elsewhere? Staying, is going to be a big risk for us this year, a risk that we just cannot afford to take. We pay a lot of money for this sport, for the best that our child can get, and to get rubbish coaching, with rubbish choices is a very expensive let down. Time will tell when our team goes to grading and we don't make premiere league, or we just scrape in, JUST. It's going to be a tough, frustrating season. Do I carry on, or pull out while we can? Some food for thought!!!
Your daughter is lucky to be playing with so many bottom aged players. All I know is that next year we will be even more competitive especially with you know who gone. We should have done better last year but his coaching let us down. I know we have spoken about this situation before, and to be honest I'm sick of hearing it. Your daughter as wonderful as she is, carries this team every season, it's time to let the others step up. Encourage her to have fun leading the younger ones. We may not have made it into premier league two years ago, but we are improving and look at how well we did last year. Yes, this year will be tough, but the experience will be beneficial.
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24-09-10, 20:46
Well said. Parents actually know more than what they are given credit for. Shane Heal (A parent), Michael Jordan (A parent)....Don't get me wrong, it's better to have any coach than none, but this is an important year. And yes, the child doesn't want to play any more and has lost interest, but I will not let her give up, so for some to say, what does the child want, I will never let my child pull out and break her commitment, rather, I would like to inject excitement into her game.
haha! So because someone is a parent, they know as much about basketball as Hammer and Michael Jordan???
Maybe poor old coach knows his stuff, maybe he doesnt? But I kind of wonder what credentials you base your "has no idea" judgement on and why you havent taken your credentials to the Association and taken the coaching job?
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25-09-10, 20:48
So this year will be sd, logan and rb. forget the rest.
just sd
haha! So because someone is a parent, they know as much about basketball as Hammer and Michael Jordan???
Maybe poor old coach knows his stuff, maybe he doesnt? But I kind of wonder what credentials you base your "has no idea" judgement on and why you havent taken your credentials to the Association and taken the coaching job?
No one was saying they no as much as these people, it's just a way of illustrating the fact that some parents may know more than a coach in some situations...these comments are garbage and should be kept off here. not specifically the quoted post but the previous about coaches knowing nothing...people dp read this stuff and it could be taken the wrong way.
Again please keep the comments constructive and dont't ruin the good thing we have here.
Grading comp coming up...draws and pools should be out soon. Anyone game enough to make predictions???
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27-09-10, 10:49
No one was saying they no as much as these people, it's just a way of illustrating the fact that some parents may know more than a coach in some situations...these comments are garbage and should be kept off here. not specifically the quoted post but the previous about coaches knowing nothing...people dp read this stuff and it could be taken the wrong way.
Again please keep the comments constructive and dont't ruin the good thing we have here.
Grading comp coming up...draws and pools should be out soon. Anyone game enough to make predictions???
I've heard a lot about a lot of the teams and I've seen most of them play. Here's my comment on most, my apologies if I missed anyone
Logan PL team; as always, will be top 4 and will be there in the big games, they have a great coach and a good mixture of players, take them lightly and you will lose
SD PL; Very very strong this year, top 4 for sure and my pick as the form team, great blend of height, speed and strength, I pick them to be in the final
Ipswich PL;could be the surprise packet, good coaches this year plus a well balanced team, could be top 4
RB PL; Highly likely Top 4 team as well, great coach plus Krystal and other players, watch this team, they'll go well
NS; Might struggle against the top teams but will improve over the year
Brisbane PL; Strong coaching but lacking a little size, with good shooting accuracy though, could go well
Logan SD team; this team, apart from no Bridget, is pretty much the same team that went undefeated in Brisbane and QLD u/14's last year, watch for them to maybe challenge for a spot in and I predict make the PL
GC; Will have a skill development year, might struggle to make PL
Maroochydore; never write them off, this is a strong association with great depth but they might find it difficult to make PL
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01-10-10, 15:24
just sd
Even though this is the U16's forum, the girls currently playing in Hobart at National Club Champs are playing U14's there and most of them are/will be in the U16's here so hopefully this is the relevant place for comment
"Just SD" implies that this is a strong team, forget the rest. The results in Hobart tell a different story. I think Townsville and SD are two of the QLD teams finishing 20th and 13th respectively? I think that's the right way around so not that strong obviously
Logan in contrast are in top 4 and go into tonights game the rank underdogs admittedly but they are top 4 nonetheless
I enjoy the banter on here as much as anyone but how about putting that aside for now and getting behind the QLD team that so far has done the best of any QLD U14 girls team ever in being top 4. Who knows, "the upset of the tournament"( from the Basketball Australia web page) they caused last night in beating Knox Raiders might go further into the final
Even if it doesn't, what a great achievement to get this far. Well done each and every one of the players, I and other supporters look forward to a great PL season
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01-10-10, 15:36
Even though this is the U16's forum, the girls currently playing in Hobart at National Club Champs are playing U14's there and most of them are/will be in the U16's here so hopefully this is the relevant place for comment
"Just SD" implies that this is a strong team, forget the rest. The results in Hobart tell a different story. I think Townsville and SD are two of the QLD teams finishing 20th and 13th respectively? I think that's the right way around so not that strong obviously
Logan in contrast are in top 4 and go into tonights game the rank underdogs admittedly but they are top 4 nonetheless
I enjoy the banter on here as much as anyone but how about putting that aside for now and getting behind the QLD team that so far has done the best of any QLD U14 girls team ever in being top 4. Who knows, "the upset of the tournament"( from the Basketball Australia web page) they caused last night in beating Knox Raiders might go further into the final
Even if it doesn't, what a great achievement to get this far. Well done each and every one of the players, I and other supporters look forward to a great PL season
Well said, this Logan team of U14's has been exciting from the start, with an outstanding effort from the Coach who has an understanding of his players and obvious respect from his players. Correct me if I am wrong, but didn't this team go through undefeated during the BQJBC Season, then win Classics, now in the top 4 of Nationals...WOW
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01-10-10, 17:14
Well said, this Logan team of U14's has been exciting from the start, with an outstanding effort from the Coach who has an understanding of his players and obvious respect from his players. Correct me if I am wrong, but didn't this team go through undefeated during the BQJBC Season, then win Classics, now in the top 4 of Nationals...WOW
Come on now, be fair to Spartans and Townsville. They weren't so lucky to get the kind of pool that Logan got. Logan struck gold with their pool. I'm sure if any of the QLD teams were put in that pool, either of the teams could have made it that far. All of the QLD teams are awesome. And with regards to Spartans not having a strong side this new season coming up, my goodness what is wrong with you. Look at all their new imports. They have some of the top players from other associations.
Go all of QLD, Go QLDERS!!!
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01-10-10, 19:52
Come on now, be fair to Spartans and Townsville. They weren't so lucky to get the kind of pool that Logan got. Logan struck gold with their pool. I'm sure if any of the QLD teams were put in that pool, either of the teams could have made it that far. All of the QLD teams are awesome. And with regards to Spartans not having a strong side this new season coming up, my goodness what is wrong with you. Look at all their new imports. They have some of the top players from other associations.
Go all of QLD, Go QLDERS!!!
Was at U14 girls and boys last year. Apart from NT teams there are no easy games. To get this far is an absolute credit to coach and team. Even more amazing given Vic teams come straight out of there finals to Nationals while Qld teams have to manage the 4 month void between Classics and Nationals intertwined with preparations for next rep season. Really is an awesome effort from all involved particularly the coach.
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01-10-10, 21:18
Was at U14 girls and boys last year. Apart from NT teams there are no easy games. To get this far is an absolute credit to coach and team. Even more amazing given Vic teams come straight out of there finals to Nationals while Qld teams have to manage the 4 month void between Classics and Nationals intertwined with preparations for next rep season. Really is an awesome effort from all involved particularly the coach.
No such thing as an easy pool at nationals....credit where credit is due, good luck Justin and girls!! Amasing effort to get this far! To be in the finals...simply sensational
No such thing as an easy pool at nationals....credit where credit is due, good luck Justin and girls!! Amasing effort to get this far! To be in the finals...simply sensational
Wow, what a tremendous effort from Justin and his team. Knockinig off "untouchable" Vic sides Knox and Nunnawading on their journey into uncharted terriotory that is the U14 National Final! Just goes to show what talent coupled with confidence and determination can do. Confirms that this gender and age group in the south might do great things when all the talent combines for State teams in the next 4 years.
Good luck to the Girls in the GF against another Vic powerhouse today in the Melbourne Tigers. Qld teams will be on show in Hobart with SD V Townsville in the Shield (D2) final right before the Thunder girls GF on the show court. You can bet that Logan will be the crowd favorites and will have plenty of support from their Qld sisters!!
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02-10-10, 08:57
Wow, what a tremendous effort from Justin and his team. Knockinig off "untouchable" Vic sides Knox and Nunnawading on their journey into uncharted terriotory that is the U14 National Final! Just goes to show what talent coupled with confidence and determination can do. Confirms that this gender and age group in the south might do great things when all the talent combines for State teams in the next 4 years.
Good luck to the Girls in the GF against another Vic powerhouse today in the Melbourne Tigers. Qld teams will be on show in Hobart with SD V Townsville in the Shield (D2) final right before the Thunder girls GF on the show court. You can bet that Logan will be the crowd favorites and will have plenty of support from their Qld sisters!!
GO LOGAN
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03-10-10, 16:25
GO LOGAN
So very proud of the outstanding effort of our Qld teams, with the Logan team leading the bunch, the future of womens basketball in Qld is assured.
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03-10-10, 21:06
So how did Logan go in the final?
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04-10-10, 07:23
So how did Logan go in the final?
I think they came away with Silver!!!!
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04-10-10, 09:57
I've heard a lot about a lot of the teams and I've seen most of them play. Here's my comment on most, my apologies if I missed anyone
Logan PL team; as always, will be top 4 and will be there in the big games, they have a great coach and a good mixture of players, take them lightly and you will lose
SD PL; Very very strong this year, top 4 for sure and my pick as the form team, great blend of height, speed and strength, I pick them to be in the final
Ipswich PL;could be the surprise packet, good coaches this year plus a well balanced team, could be top 4
RB PL; Highly likely Top 4 team as well, great coach plus Krystal and other players, watch this team, they'll go well
NS; Might struggle against the top teams but will improve over the year
Brisbane PL; Strong coaching but lacking a little size, with good shooting accuracy though, could go well
Logan SD team; this team, apart from no Bridget, is pretty much the same team that went undefeated in Brisbane and QLD u/14's last year, watch for them to maybe challenge for a spot in and I predict make the PL
GC; Will have a skill development year, might struggle to make PL
Maroochydore; never write them off, this is a strong association with great depth but they might find it difficult to make PL
On the second logan team, There going to struggle without Bridget O'briens leadership and passes. As you saw in the Melbourne Tigers game in nationals. Besides Bridget no one can bring the ball up the court.
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04-10-10, 12:57
On the second logan team, There going to struggle without Bridget O'briens leadership and passes. As you saw in the Melbourne Tigers game in nationals. Besides Bridget no one can bring the ball up the court.
That's true about leadership and passes, no argument there but there are other players, such as Jessie Philips, Kellie-Ann and others who can bring the ball up the court. Plus this team has great height and they have all played together for a while now. I still think they will be competitive in challenging for PL
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04-10-10, 17:08
I think they came away with Silver!!!!
Fantastic effort! Well done and obviously a great team effort
Problem: The only stuff I can find about the tournament is pretty one eyed re Melbourne sides and doesn't have anything about our teams, SD, Townsville and Logan. Any comments from anyone who was there?
Who played well?
Best supporter award?
Who was the player of the tournament?
One off by Logan or the start of better things for QLD Basketball?
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04-10-10, 19:27
That's true about leadership and passes, no argument there but there are other players, such as Jessie Philips, Kellie-Ann and others who can bring the ball up the court. Plus this team has great height and they have all played together for a while now. I still think they will be competitive in challenging for PL
Why isn't this team going to gradings this weekend ??????
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05-10-10, 12:15
Fantastic effort! Well done and obviously a great team effort
Problem: The only stuff I can find about the tournament is pretty one eyed re Melbourne sides and doesn't have anything about our teams, SD, Townsville and Logan. Any comments from anyone who was there?
Who played well?
Best supporter award?
Who was the player of the tournament?
One off by Logan or the start of better things for QLD Basketball?
SD: Improved over the tournament, dropped early games that maybe they could have won but got better towards the end of the week
Townsville: I didn't see much of their games but I'm told they were the same as SD, dropped off games they should have won.
Logan: Bridget, very very good all tournament, Jessie Philllips, Whitney and Kellie-Ann were great, the whole team played well but played their final the day before when they won by one point, they were full of errors and a bit flat in the final
Loudest Supporter: Some guy cheering for Logan, he never stopped, must have lungs of steel
Player of the Tournament: After hearing what the Knox team and coach said plus what a whole lot of other players and team officials said, ours included, Bridget O'Brien of Logan. She was incredibly tough in all the games, played brilliantly and motivated her team with some of the best halftime speeches we've ever heard. Why didn;t she get the award? She didn't come from Victoria mainly but also her consistency dropped off and errors increased in the final. Still, our players wanted anything of hers they could get as a souvenir so that says a lot
Logan were very good this year but overall, and as always the Southern States are stronger. I think probably one-off for QLD teams rather than a trend
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05-10-10, 13:09
SD: Improved over the tournament, dropped early games that maybe they could have won but got better towards the end of the week
Townsville: I didn't see much of their games but I'm told they were the same as SD, dropped off games they should have won.
Logan: Bridget, very very good all tournament, Jessie Philllips, Whitney and Kellie-Ann were great, the whole team played well but played their final the day before when they won by one point, they were full of errors and a bit flat in the final
Loudest Supporter: Some guy cheering for Logan, he never stopped, must have lungs of steel
Player of the Tournament: After hearing what the Knox team and coach said plus what a whole lot of other players and team officials said, ours included, Bridget O'Brien of Logan. She was incredibly tough in all the games, played brilliantly and motivated her team with some of the best halftime speeches we've ever heard. Why didn;t she get the award? She didn't come from Victoria mainly but also her consistency dropped off and errors increased in the final. Still, our players wanted anything of hers they could get as a souvenir so that says a lot
Logan were very good this year but overall, and as always the Southern States are stronger. I think probably one-off for QLD teams rather than a trend
Very funny at the end when all the players were saying goodbye, Bridget walked past a group that were so excited because they had her drink bottle. Bridge walked up and said politely 'Could I please have my drink bottle back'. She hadn't realised it had gone missing.
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05-10-10, 13:22
A little perspective perhaps.
Congratulations to the Logan girls on what must have been an exciting and enjoyable week.
BUT... rather than looking at whether the Logan performance at U14 Nationals is the start of a trend, maybe look at the following...
2010 U20's Women's Nationals Qld - 3rd
2010 U18's Women's Nationals Qld Sth - 2nd
2010 U16's Women's Nationals Qld Sth - 2nd
2010 U14's Club Nationals Logan - 2nd.
That looks like a trend to me which says there are some good things being done around the place in SE Qld in women's basketball.
2011 looks pretty positive as well with a 20's squad including Tippett, Haughton, Payne and Allen (all National squad members) plus plenty of depth in the rest of the group either returning from a bronze or moving up from a silver - there could well be girls who were part of the team last year as bottom agers who miss out as top-agers!).
The 18's will have Donnelly, Purcell, Sekona, Trinder and Tiana (all National squad members) plus plenty of depth either returning from a Silver medal or moving up from a silver medal while the 16's will have the returners from the silver medal team plus what looks like a very strong group coming through.
That looks like a trend to me. Now to get over the hump and not just compete - but win a title or two!
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05-10-10, 14:29
A little perspective perhaps.
Congratulations to the Logan girls on what must have been an exciting and enjoyable week.
BUT... rather than looking at whether the Logan performance at U14 Nationals is the start of a trend, maybe look at the following...
2010 U20's Women's Nationals Qld - 3rd
2010 U18's Women's Nationals Qld Sth - 2nd
2010 U16's Women's Nationals Qld Sth - 2nd
2010 U14's Club Nationals Logan - 2nd.
That looks like a trend to me which says there are some good things being done around the place in SE Qld in women's basketball.
2011 looks pretty positive as well with a 20's squad including Tippett, Haughton, Payne and Allen (all National squad members) plus plenty of depth in the rest of the group either returning from a bronze or moving up from a silver - there could well be girls who were part of the team last year as bottom agers who miss out as top-agers!).
The 18's will have Donnelly, Purcell, Sekona, Trinder and Tiana (all National squad members) plus plenty of depth either returning from a Silver medal or moving up from a silver medal while the 16's will have the returners from the silver medal team plus what looks like a very strong group coming through.
That looks like a trend to me. Now to get over the hump and not just compete - but win a title or two!
Great comment, I think the strenght of the girls program is exceptional in this state and the standard and quality of the state championships from under 12's to under 18's has highlighted this fact. Qld has the talent and now is getting the interstate competition that will propell this state into winning championships in the next couple of years. The southern states are now starting to take the program here seriously. The quality of our state coaches and rep coaches has facilitated this development with most of the associations being strong in the girls, not just the traditional Spartans Logan and BBi. you have strong teams from runnaway Bay, Ipswich, Maroochydore, Gold Coast and South west meaning that the girls premier league games are tough and hard, with very few blowouts. This has really been the strength.
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05-10-10, 14:30
Very funny at the end when all the players were saying goodbye, Bridget walked past a group that were so excited because they had her drink bottle. Bridge walked up and said politely 'Could I please have my drink bottle back'. She hadn't realised it had gone missing.
I'm not sure what this means???
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05-10-10, 14:33
I'm not sure what this means???
It only means everybody was trying to souvenir all her belongings.
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05-10-10, 19:36
Great comment, I think the strenght of the girls program is exceptional in this state and the standard and quality of the state championships from under 12's to under 18's has highlighted this fact. Qld has the talent and now is getting the interstate competition that will propell this state into winning championships in the next couple of years. The southern states are now starting to take the program here seriously. The quality of our state coaches and rep coaches has facilitated this development with most of the associations being strong in the girls, not just the traditional Spartans Logan and BBi. you have strong teams from runnaway Bay, Ipswich, Maroochydore, Gold Coast and South west meaning that the girls premier league games are tough and hard, with very few blowouts. This has really been the strength.
Agree with all the above comments. Logan did have a easy draw but made the most of that and good luck to them. They had the same win/loss as Townsville but Townsville were knocked out by a real dodgy result. The Logan results against Knox and Nunawading are beyond anything that has been done before.
SD had by far the worst of the draw and started the week pretty poorly . Had a couple of injuries to key people in the first two games but no excuses. They did have the satisfaction of beating Townsville by 40 in the playoff and that was sweet after the loss at Classics.
2 Qld kids in the top 3 or 4 scorers and averages tells you we are breeding some class players but are still nowhere near the Victorians at the Club Level , and probably never will be. Just cannot compete against the sheer numbers and facilities they have but we (QLD) are producing kids every bit as good individually. Best kids in QLD would walk onto any Victorian team.
Will all be equal at the National level in 2 years time for this age group and I would like to think that the Bluechip selectors would be thinking that far ahead and pick a team this year that reflects that. Never too early to start preparing.
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08-10-10, 16:14
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Will all be equal at the National level in 2 years time for this age group and I would like to think that the Bluechip selectors would be thinking that far ahead and pick a team this year that reflects that. Never too early to start preparing.
The Bluechip selectors should pick a squad of 15 and develop these girls for 2 years and have training camps/ sessions during the bottom age year. The girls could still attend the U16 state days and be eligible for that team. Any girls that develop significantly can always be added to the squad.
The continuance of the girls training together will give them a fighting chance at Nationals in 2 years time.
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08-10-10, 17:38
The Bluechip selectors should pick a squad of 15 and develop these girls for 2 years and have training camps/ sessions during the bottom age year. The girls could still attend the U16 state days and be eligible for that team. Any girls that develop significantly can always be added to the squad.
The continuance of the girls training together will give them a fighting chance at Nationals in 2 years time.
Is this not preselecting a team instead of trialing and taking the best team available in that year?
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08-10-10, 21:49
The Bluechip selectors should pick a squad of 15 and develop these girls for 2 years and have training camps/ sessions during the bottom age year. The girls could still attend the U16 state days and be eligible for that team. Any girls that develop significantly can always be added to the squad.
The continuance of the girls training together will give them a fighting chance at Nationals in 2 years time.
if u pick 15 why not 20 all 25
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08-10-10, 22:48
if u pick 15 why not 20 all 25
Because that would be stupid wouldn't it ....sacarsm is the lowest form of wit
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11-10-10, 07:51
Final teams for PL
SD
Logan
South West
Seahawks
Northside
Ipswich
GC
Maroochydore
Top 4 in that list look to be the teams to beat. Was surprised by the size (height) of the SW girls, looked very aggressive in their style of play and will cause lots of problems during the year.
Probably the big shock is that BBI failed to get a team in PL, must be very disappointing considering the calibre of the Coach.
Maybe a long year for some of the younger teams.
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11-10-10, 08:44
Final teams for PL
SD
Logan
South West
Seahawks
Northside
Ipswich
GC
Maroochydore
Top 4 in that list look to be the teams to beat. Was surprised by the size (height) of the SW girls, looked very aggressive in their style of play and will cause lots of problems during the year.
Probably the big shock is that BBI failed to get a team in PL, must be very disappointing considering the calibre of the Coach.
Maybe a long year for some of the younger teams.
I agree, the SW girls have a lot of size and beat Logan amongst others. A high standard at grading but lots of room to improve . A few comments:
Logan: As always, a strong team but their shooting was poor, let them down more than once and they'll need to get this right or they will get beaten. Bridget good but can play better, still getting their combinations worked out and they need to improve the speed and accuracy of their passing game
SD: Played OK but also need to work on their combinations and court work, strong game in parts from Hannah amongst others but definitely need to work on their fitness
South West: Good to see an unexpectedly strong team mix it with the others, aggressive and very physical style of play rattled Logan amongst others, they could go very well, maybe that's the secret to beating these so called top teams, get out there and have a go
Seahawks: Good but not great, they need to play for the full 40 minutes and not back off, another team that could go very well if they get that right, Krystal playing really well, great to see her back from the injury
Northside: a typical never say die game from Regan, the rest of the team need to follow her lead and keep trying
GC: This team shows promise, keep practising free throws and the basics and they could challenge the top teams, had some good moments and combinations
Maroochydore: Great game from Nat, played a leaders role, the rest of the team will get better but they lack height and size and will find it hard to compete with SW, Logan and SD
Ipswich: Good that they made PL and some good moments, another team though that lacks height and size and they will find it tough this year
I agree, the SW girls have a lot of size and beat Logan amongst others. A high standard at grading but lots of room to improve . A few comments:
Logan: As always, a strong team but their shooting was poor, let them down more than once and they'll need to get this right or they will get beaten. Bridget good but can play better, still getting their combinations worked out and they need to improve the speed and accuracy of their passing game
SD: Played OK but also need to work on their combinations and court work, strong game in parts from Hannah amongst others but definitely need to work on their fitness
South West: Good to see an unexpectedly strong team mix it with the others, aggressive and very physical style of play rattled Logan amongst others, they could go very well, maybe that's the secret to beating these so called top teams, get out there and have a go
Seahawks: Good but not great, they need to play for the full 40 minutes and not back off, another team that could go very well if they get that right, Krystal playing really well, great to see her back from the injury
Northside: a typical never say die game from Regan, the rest of the team need to follow her lead and keep trying
GC: This team shows promise, keep practising free throws and the basics and they could challenge the top teams, had some good moments and combinations
Maroochydore: Great game from Nat, played a leaders role, the rest of the team will get better but they lack height and size and will find it hard to compete with SW, Logan and SD
Ipswich: Good that they made PL and some good moments, another team though that lacks height and size and they will find it tough this year
I think all the northside girls have that never say die attitude but not all of them have the level of fitness to do that the whole game. These girls will continue to get better as the season prgresses and with a bit more structure and fitness will have a crack at some of the top teams.
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11-10-10, 11:19
What happened with BBI? I don't think a team has never made premier league before.
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11-10-10, 11:34
What happened with BBI? I don't think a team has never made premier league before.
They were a bit unlucky if you look at the results , lost to Logan by 12 , SW by 4 and IPS by 1. Would have thought based on that they should have won against Maroochydore.
Qualifiying is all about getting your two wins and getting out of there without showing to much.
Dont read too much into the early form Logan, Runaway Bay and Spartans have plenty of improvement left in them. Once they hit their straps they will dominate the comp.
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11-10-10, 13:27
Enjoyed watching the grading. Spartans looks like they want to really dominate the competition although I wondered at times if they had enough players to spread across to the titans to have two quality sides. Seems a waste to bring another team to the competition that never stood a chance against the other teams and really just added an unnecessary game to pool A tiring the teams that still had to play that extra last game but apparently they do it every year.
I was pretty inspired by number 4 of Toowoomba that lacked height but not really anything else as she had the aggressiveness and determination that could put so many of the tall girls to shame.
Wizards look very promising starting the tournament with upsetting Maroochydore and for a moment there had spartans scrambling a little and the tall girls of spartan just getting rejected at the basket by wizards. Wizards definitely have the potential to be the team to watch out for.
Pirates was a real suprise and I hope people see them as basketball team first more than anything else. If you allow yourself to be intimidated that is your own fault and teams like the pirates will own you.Good luck the Pirates.
Logan is dangerous especially after they lose as Ipswich had to find out the hard way.After going down by a point to Southwest it seemed like Logan had to take it out on someone and unleashed on poor Ipswich in the first quarter leaving Ipswich reeling. There were times that Ipswich started a fight back but fatigue had already set in and the early lead to Logan cemented the win.
What Ipswich lack in height they make up for in speed and attack. They have to improve their outside shooting though. Ipswich is a team no one wants to lose to but can upset you when you least expect it.
Seahawks have same coach and look strong. I expected the game against Spartans to maybe have been a lot closer and I think in competition Seahawks is another team capable of beating Spartans. Well any team can beat the spartans if they figure it out.
Waves an Maroochydore have just scraped in to the PL but where they placed is no indication of what they are capable off. Im sure Maroochydore will find more players by mid season or find their form.
I think reading back on comments in regards to under14 nationals the real aim for this competition is for all our teams to improve our level of basketball which in turn will make us wothy opponents at state level. It doesnt matter how stacked Spartans are any team in this competition that is able to coach to thier team to a level capable of toppling teams like spartans will only have taken their team to another level and in doing so will take this competition to the next level. And then of these days our teams can to the nationals and come away with the elusive 1st prize. Excuse the cliche but yes we might be many but we should be ONE QUEENSLAND.. Good luck to all teams for the new season. Parents have faith in your coaches and managers and have a little faith. Their is politics and all clubs it doesnt matter where you take your kids. Just remember your kids can either love the game or hate it because they are being forced one way or the other..Peace to all.
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11-10-10, 16:53
They were a bit unlucky if you look at the results , lost to Logan by 12 , SW by 4 and IPS by 1. Would have thought based on that they should have won against Maroochydore.
Qualifiying is all about getting your two wins and getting out of there without showing to much.
Dont read too much into the early form Logan, Runaway Bay and Spartans have plenty of improvement left in them. Once they hit their straps they will dominate the comp.
I agree about these three teams, clearly they are the pick but don;t write SW off, they've showed they are tough competitors plus good shooting accuracy, they will be there all season.
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11-10-10, 17:11
I agree about these three teams, clearly they are the pick but don;t write SW off, they've showed they are tough competitors plus good shooting accuracy, they will be there all season.
Is it the same team as 2 years ago with a bit more size and bulk? That team hardly won a game all season. Will be different this season.
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11-10-10, 19:33
I agree about these three teams, clearly they are the pick but don;t write SW off, they've showed they are tough competitors plus good shooting accuracy, they will be there all season.
SW strength is actually in the guards not the bigs, bigs might well be there weakness.
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11-10-10, 19:50
I agree, the SW girls have a lot of size and beat Logan amongst others. A high standard at grading but lots of room to improve . A few comments:
Logan: As always, a strong team but their shooting was poor, let them down more than once and they'll need to get this right or they will get beaten. Bridget good but can play better, still getting their combinations worked out and they need to improve the speed and accuracy of their passing game
SD: Played OK but also need to work on their combinations and court work, strong game in parts from Hannah amongst others but definitely need to work on their fitness
South West: Good to see an unexpectedly strong team mix it with the others, aggressive and very physical style of play rattled Logan amongst others, they could go very well, maybe that's the secret to beating these so called top teams, get out there and have a go
Seahawks: Good but not great, they need to play for the full 40 minutes and not back off, another team that could go very well if they get that right, Krystal playing really well, great to see her back from the injury
Northside: a typical never say die game from Regan, the rest of the team need to follow her lead and keep trying
GC: This team shows promise, keep practising free throws and the basics and they could challenge the top teams, had some good moments and combinations
Maroochydore: Great game from Nat, played a leaders role, the rest of the team will get better but they lack height and size and will find it hard to compete with SW, Logan and SD
Ipswich: Good that they made PL and some good moments, another team though that lacks height and size and they will find it tough this year
I was just looking at the results on Sporting Pulse. I guess talent is in the eye of the beholder, but I love how people on here talk up a couple of players presumably in the hope that selectors will read it ( my guess is they don't!). But for anyone who wasn't there, you might get an impression that a couple of players were really good, and the rest were unworthy of mention. I think the results actually show a very different story in some cases above and I'd like to throw in my 2 cents worth. I didn't see all the games so I can't comment on some of the teams.
Seahawks lost their number 8 in the first game, and she appeared to be playing really strongly before the injury. I'm sure that affected them in the other games. They were the only team that kept SD to below 50 AND finished within 15 points. So, defensively, they were very organised and hunting as a pack. Watch out for Seahawks once the combinations start to come together.
I think all of the teams that I saw lacked combinations across the floor. When either bottom or top agers who played together last year were on the floor together, the points flowed and when they were mixed up, it wasn't as smooth. Northside particularly seemed to have some good skills, but was an example of individuals really trying too hard and ending up out of control, rather than looking for opportunities to pass to more open team mates.
Teamwork will come together following some time together for all the girls in all the teams.
Toowoomba tried really hard and never gave up, and their number 4 is a little dynamo.
Didn't see GC, Logan or Ippy play, but GC must have had a great game against SW.
Maroochydore never troubled SD or the scorer and their best player in the match was their number 8.
I think the weekend was only an indicator of the "clay" that the coaches have to work with, not the pot at the end of the season after its been in the kiln.
I really have to take issue with the "SD played OK but will have to work on this and that" comment above which indicates that they were indifferent compared to those teams who had these really great "leaders" (who are bottom age presumably). How do the top age girls in those teams feel about these statements? I think you do those girls a disservice by mentioning them by name and not all the great players across all the teams who, by the way, are just playing Junior sport and not going for Olympic representation this year!!!. Lets stop talking up individuals and start looking at the results.
What do the scores tell us about defensive and offensive capability at the very start of the season?
All averaged to 4 games
SD 222 94
Logan 177 104
Seahawks 154 121
GC 153 109
Ippy 150 138
SW 147 114
BBI 133 151
Northside 122 152
Maroochy 122 163
I think the above is the real story of the weekend. It shows who can score and who can defend and what they'll all the teams will have to work on more, but the "OK" team didn't play too badly first up.
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11-10-10, 22:13
I was just looking at the results on Sporting Pulse. I guess talent is in the eye of the beholder, but I love how people on here talk up a couple of players presumably in the hope that selectors will read it ( my guess is they don't!). But for anyone who wasn't there, you might get an impression that a couple of players were really good, and the rest were unworthy of mention. I think the results actually show a very different story in some cases above and I'd like to throw in my 2 cents worth. I didn't see all the games so I can't comment on some of the teams.
Seahawks lost their number 8 in the first game, and she appeared to be playing really strongly before the injury. I'm sure that affected them in the other games. They were the only team that kept SD to below 50 AND finished within 15 points. So, defensively, they were very organised and hunting as a pack. Watch out for Seahawks once the combinations start to come together.
I think all of the teams that I saw lacked combinations across the floor. When either bottom or top agers who played together last year were on the floor together, the points flowed and when they were mixed up, it wasn't as smooth. Northside particularly seemed to have some good skills, but was an example of individuals really trying too hard and ending up out of control, rather than looking for opportunities to pass to more open team mates.
Teamwork will come together following some time together for all the girls in all the teams.
Toowoomba tried really hard and never gave up, and their number 4 is a little dynamo.
Didn't see GC, Logan or Ippy play, but GC must have had a great game against SW.
Maroochydore never troubled SD or the scorer and their best player in the match was their number 8.
I think the weekend was only an indicator of the "clay" that the coaches have to work with, not the pot at the end of the season after its been in the kiln.
I really have to take issue with the "SD played OK but will have to work on this and that" comment above which indicates that they were indifferent compared to those teams who had these really great "leaders" (who are bottom age presumably). How do the top age girls in those teams feel about these statements? I think you do those girls a disservice by mentioning them by name and not all the great players across all the teams who, by the way, are just playing Junior sport and not going for Olympic representation this year!!!. Lets stop talking up individuals and start looking at the results.
What do the scores tell us about defensive and offensive capability at the very start of the season?
All averaged to 4 games
SD 222 94
Logan 177 104
Seahawks 154 121
GC 153 109
Ippy 150 138
SW 147 114
BBI 133 151
Northside 122 152
Maroochy 122 163
I think the above is the real story of the weekend. It shows who can score and who can defend and what they'll all the teams will have to work on more, but the "OK" team didn't play too badly first up.
I so agree! Tired of these people, usually family members, trying to big note these same few kids. Basketball minded people see right through it. You are in a much bigger pond now, much bigger fish then your kids. Take your blinkers off!
Enjoyed the weekend, lots of talent, looking forward to an interesting comp. Talented kids and talented coaches! Go Queensland basketball!
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12-10-10, 08:18
I was just looking at the results on Sporting Pulse. I guess talent is in the eye of the beholder, but I love how people on here talk up a couple of players presumably in the hope that selectors will read it ( my guess is they don't!). .
They DONT!....and the basketball people they consult with see straight through it. Agree with everything you said here. (And yeh, you can actually pick the people who wrote the stuff about their kids cant you?) It's a sad symptom of this newest disease thats infested junior basketball in Qld where people dont take pride in playing for a Club anymore and will play anywhere and for anyone if they think it will get them into that "mighty" state team. Doesnt matter if they arent the best player to give their State the best chance of winning...forget any loyalty or regard for anything or anyone other than yourself and being able to say you "made a state team". Even winning through effort and resilience doesnt count for anything anymore. Just get yourself on the recruitment list of some coach or association who wants their name up in lights...(but doesnt really have the expertise)...and recruit a premiership. Whooptedo!
Then comes the big crunch when the kid who worked the system (and the gossip mill) and was the "big name" around junior basketball cant cut it outside of their local area and the next level. Usually because they either didnt have the talent in the first place or what they did have was ruined by playing one out for themselves and never learning (or caring to learn) how to become one of the ten fingers of the pair of gloves that makes a basketball team.
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12-10-10, 08:19
SW strength is actually in the guards not the bigs, bigs might well be there weakness.
What a load of rubbish. Yes one of them looks fairly new to the game but she did her job and Savannah Au, played excellent, don't write offf their bigs. Let's not forget, the guards and forwards compliment each other.
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14-10-10, 20:35
What a load of rubbish. Yes one of them looks fairly new to the game but she did her job and Savannah Au, played excellent, don't write offf their bigs. Let's not forget, the guards and forwards compliment each other.
Feel free to talk up your kids but it is better to keep to yourself the strengths that are in your team. As we dont all see each others game reporting on who your strengths are only gives other coaches warnings on who to watch for. Be proud of your childs achievements and this should be a place to share it its just unfortunate so people get negative and read things the wrong way and react in the wrong way. Its a long season and all our are girls are queensland girls. Every negative things said about individuals can have a negative effect on that individual whether directly or indirectly and this is a very public forum. I want to read about achievements and successes and none of the other rubbish.
ONE QUEENSLAND
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14-10-10, 21:13
Feel free to talk up your kids but it is better to keep to yourself the strengths that are in your team. As we dont all see each others game reporting on who your strengths are only gives other coaches warnings on who to watch for. Be proud of your childs achievements and this should be a place to share it its just unfortunate so people get negative and read things the wrong way and react in the wrong way. Its a long season and all our are girls are queensland girls. Every negative things said about individuals can have a negative effect on that individual whether directly or indirectly and this is a very public forum. I want to read about achievements and successes and none of the other rubbish.
ONE QUEENSLAND
omg. Did anyone see the NZ vs Aussie gold medal game. Can I talk up Bridget O'Brien. Awesome at Netball but loves this game of Basketball. Bridget loves Basketball more than anything. Remember this is only a forum and the kids just love the game. I call Basketball the Dark Side as I am a Netball Coach. Just enjoy supporting them and paying for them, as Basketball is so much more expensive than Netball and, other than the skills they learn, they make friends for life. Eat, Pray, Love Basketball - Bridget does.
Her Mum - Melissa
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15-10-10, 07:17
omg. Did anyone see the NZ vs Aussie gold medal game. Can I talk up Bridget O'Brien. Awesome at Netball but loves this game of Basketball. Bridget loves Basketball more than anything. Remember this is only a forum and the kids just love the game. I call Basketball the Dark Side as I am a Netball Coach. Just enjoy supporting them and paying for them, as Basketball is so much more expensive than Netball and, other than the skills they learn, they make friends for life. Eat, Pray, Love Basketball - Bridget does.
Her Mum - Melissa
Never let a kid near a keyboard without supervison ...
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15-10-10, 09:41
I was just looking at the results on Sporting Pulse. I guess talent is in the eye of the beholder, but I love how people on here talk up a couple of players presumably in the hope that selectors will read it ( my guess is they don't!). But for anyone who wasn't there, you might get an impression that a couple of players were really good, and the rest were unworthy of mention. I think the results actually show a very different story in some cases above and I'd like to throw in my 2 cents worth. I didn't see all the games so I can't comment on some of the teams.
Seahawks lost their number 8 in the first game, and she appeared to be playing really strongly before the injury. I'm sure that affected them in the other games. They were the only team that kept SD to below 50 AND finished within 15 points. So, defensively, they were very organised and hunting as a pack. Watch out for Seahawks once the combinations start to come together.
I think all of the teams that I saw lacked combinations across the floor. When either bottom or top agers who played together last year were on the floor together, the points flowed and when they were mixed up, it wasn't as smooth. Northside particularly seemed to have some good skills, but was an example of individuals really trying too hard and ending up out of control, rather than looking for opportunities to pass to more open team mates.
Teamwork will come together following some time together for all the girls in all the teams.
Toowoomba tried really hard and never gave up, and their number 4 is a little dynamo.
Didn't see GC, Logan or Ippy play, but GC must have had a great game against SW.
Maroochydore never troubled SD or the scorer and their best player in the match was their number 8.
I think the weekend was only an indicator of the "clay" that the coaches have to work with, not the pot at the end of the season after its been in the kiln.
I really have to take issue with the "SD played OK but will have to work on this and that" comment above which indicates that they were indifferent compared to those teams who had these really great "leaders" (who are bottom age presumably). How do the top age girls in those teams feel about these statements? I think you do those girls a disservice by mentioning them by name and not all the great players across all the teams who, by the way, are just playing Junior sport and not going for Olympic representation this year!!!. Lets stop talking up individuals and start looking at the results.
What do the scores tell us about defensive and offensive capability at the very start of the season?
All averaged to 4 games
SD 222 94
Logan 177 104
Seahawks 154 121
GC 153 109
Ippy 150 138
SW 147 114
BBI 133 151
Northside 122 152
Maroochy 122 163
I think the above is the real story of the weekend. It shows who can score and who can defend and what they'll all the teams will have to work on more, but the "OK" team didn't play too badly first up.
Why would you bag out a poster that had positive things to say about some kids they noticed on the weekend? They obviously know the bottom age girls more than the top age ones so gave their opinion just like you did. No wonder there are few positive posts on here, they just get shot down in flames by people pushing their own agendas.
This year looks like it will be a competition of 4 very strong teams and 4 developing teams. SD, Logan, RB and SW. It's great to see a team like SW emerge and let's hope that they can give the competition a shake with their size and aggression.
Gold Coast and Ipswich should improve through the year and will compete against the top teams. Wizards and Maroochydore might be in for tough seasons and there only wins might come against each other. I was surprised that Maroochydore beat BBI, in fact the real story of grading day is that BBI failed to make PL.
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15-10-10, 12:15
Why would you bag out a poster that had positive things to say about some kids they noticed on the weekend? They obviously know the bottom age girls more than the top age ones so gave their opinion just like you did. No wonder there are few positive posts on here, they just get shot down in flames by people pushing their own agendas.
This year looks like it will be a competition of 4 very strong teams and 4 developing teams. SD, Logan, RB and SW. It's great to see a team like SW emerge and let's hope that they can give the competition a shake with their size and aggression.
Gold Coast and Ipswich should improve through the year and will compete against the top teams. Wizards and Maroochydore might be in for tough seasons and there only wins might come against each other. I was surprised that Maroochydore beat BBI, in fact the real story of grading day is that BBI failed to make PL.
I agree. how can an association as big as bbi not have an under 16 team make premier league. It cant be the coaches fault as she is an excellent coach who has proven results. It has to be the clubs who play in the system. The development is obviously not there and the juniors coming through are not able to match it physically or mentally with the other associations.
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16-10-10, 01:07
Question. Who is the toughest player playing in the U16 girl comp??? Khaden or Jordan? Any others???
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16-10-10, 09:16
Wow...good question...i reckon...Caitlin is up there
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18-10-10, 10:21
I agree. how can an association as big as bbi not have an under 16 team make premier league. It cant be the coaches fault as she is an excellent coach who has proven results. It has to be the clubs who play in the system. The development is obviously not there and the juniors coming through are not able to match it physically or mentally with the other associations.
BBI second team missed out on Second Division, seems like there is a big hole in this age group.
But given that they only just lost to SD who the week earlier had tried to qualify for PL.
Had they lost, SD would have missed PL and SC in consecutive weekends ........
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18-10-10, 20:13
BBI second team missed out on Second Division, seems like there is a big hole in this age group.
But given that they only just lost to SD who the week earlier had tried to qualify for PL.
Had they lost, SD would have missed PL and SC in consecutive weekends ........
You wonder why SD's would waste everybody's time by trying out for PL, when they struggle to make SC. All they did was muck up the draw for SC gradings. The pools were very uneven for SC gradings. Maybe if they need the extra match practice they should try out for the NBL as well !
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18-10-10, 21:53
You wonder why SD's would waste everybody's time by trying out for PL, when they struggle to make SC. All they did was muck up the draw for SC gradings. The pools were very uneven for SC gradings. Maybe if they need the extra match practice they should try out for the NBL as well !
You can't dictate who can trial as everybody is entitled to trial.
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19-10-10, 00:20
Why are Associations currently being asked to vote on the idea of a challenge round half way through the PL season when it was agreed at previous meeting that there would only be a challenge round at the end of the PL season? Could it be because of pressure from BBI who missed out on a PL spot? Seems weird. Why do we have meetings when certain clubs can ride roughshod over decisions?
You can't dictate who can trial as everybody is entitled to trial.
Everyone knows that! but i think the point they are trying to make is not to use this as an opportunity for practice as it creates other issues with draws etc. If they knew they had no real chance, dont go and waste the energy of the teams that need these wins.
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19-10-10, 06:36
You wonder why SD's would waste everybody's time by trying out for PL, when they struggle to make SC. All they did was muck up the draw for SC gradings. The pools were very uneven for SC gradings. Maybe if they need the extra match practice they should try out for the NBL as well !
u guys need to post in sc page
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19-10-10, 07:30
You wonder why SD's would waste everybody's time by trying out for PL, when they struggle to make SC. All they did was muck up the draw for SC gradings. The pools were very uneven for SC gradings. Maybe if they need the extra match practice they should try out for the NBL as well !
I honestly think they thought they were going to be a lot more competitive than they were.
Why are Associations currently being asked to vote on the idea of a challenge round half way through the PL season when it was agreed at previous meeting that there would only be a challenge round at the end of the PL season? Could it be because of pressure from BBI who missed out on a PL spot? Seems weird. Why do we have meetings when certain clubs can ride roughshod over decisions?
Rubbish. If you want the best teams playing PL then there's nothing wrong with a swap over challenge. It worked when the comp was BSQ, in fact the competition was at its best then... If the teams that made it at grading are good enough, they'll still win a swap over. But if they got lucky or someone didn't make it due to injuries etc or whatever, then its better to have the top teams in div1. Either that or maybe grading should run for a few weeks not just a weekend.
I saw a team last year make div 1 by 1 point in a crossover. They got smashed all season long, ended up in the middle of the pack in div2, there was definitely better teams all season in div2, but they didn't make it for whatever reason.
So do you want the best teams in div1, no matter where they are from, or do you just want teams who get through at the start of a season, when - lets face it - everyone is pretty scrappy.
Try to think of what's best for the comp, not your own little patch, and not some conspiracy theory you've concocted.
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19-10-10, 11:56
Rubbish. If you want the best teams playing PL then there's nothing wrong with a swap over challenge. It worked when the comp was BSQ, in fact the competition was at its best then... If the teams that made it at grading are good enough, they'll still win a swap over. But if they got lucky or someone didn't make it due to injuries etc or whatever, then its better to have the top teams in div1. Either that or maybe grading should run for a few weeks not just a weekend.
I saw a team last year make div 1 by 1 point in a crossover. They got smashed all season long, ended up in the middle of the pack in div2, there was definitely better teams all season in div2, but they didn't make it for whatever reason.
So do you want the best teams in div1, no matter where they are from, or do you just want teams who get through at the start of a season, when - lets face it - everyone is pretty scrappy.
Try to think of what's best for the comp, not your own little patch, and not some conspiracy theory you've concocted.
I agree but you cant change rules midstream. Everyone knew the rules going in and that is how it should be. The rules should only be changed prior to the season with full discussion, not because of some whinging from associations who have teams affected. that is the issue.
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19-10-10, 12:21
I agree but you cant change rules midstream. Everyone knew the rules going in and that is how it should be. The rules should only be changed prior to the season with full discussion, not because of some whinging from associations who have teams affected. that is the issue.
Spot on. Surely these types of decisions are discussed and acted on during the off season, not once the season has already started. The mere fact that they are discussing it now, shows what a bunch of amateurs they are.
I don't know associations are whinging. But I do think its the best thing for the competition. Whilst I am aware that grading has just occurred, the season has not started yet. If it has who's on top of the ladder?
If the swapover does go ahead we may see some teams from my club drop to a lower division. And that would mean that someone better deserved to be in the higher division. So be it, if any team that gets challenged is good enough they'll stay where they are
I think the real issue is whether we really want the best playing the best. Because teams that aren't in might be whinging, but only as much as the teams that just scraped in by the sounds of it.
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19-10-10, 13:08
I don't know associations are whinging. But I do think its the best thing for the competition. Whilst I am aware that grading has just occurred, the season has not started yet. If it has who's on top of the ladder?
If the swapover does go ahead we may see some teams from my club drop to a lower division. And that would mean that someone better deserved to be in the higher division. So be it, if any team that gets challenged is good enough they'll stay where they are
I think the real issue is whether we really want the best playing the best. Because teams that aren't in might be whinging, but only as much as the teams that just scraped in by the sounds of it.
The teams making up the ladder for PL have already been decided. Administrations who change the rules on the fly, leave themselves open to accusations of bias.
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19-10-10, 13:43
I don't know associations are whinging. But I do think its the best thing for the competition. Whilst I am aware that grading has just occurred, the season has not started yet. If it has who's on top of the ladder?
If the swapover does go ahead we may see some teams from my club drop to a lower division. And that would mean that someone better deserved to be in the higher division. So be it, if any team that gets challenged is good enough they'll stay where they are
I think the real issue is whether we really want the best playing the best. Because teams that aren't in might be whinging, but only as much as the teams that just scraped in by the sounds of it.
As of last weekend the best teams are in the PL and the rest are in the SC.
Thats it, end of story.
If you as an association do not enter for the grading or muck it up because of under performance on the weekend so be it.
Take you licks and go and play SC if you consider that you have improved that much nominate for PL at the State Championships.
Replacing the team that is running last by a team that did not qualify is a nonsense. You are essentially replacing a donkey with a jackass.
The competition hasn't started yet though, because the grading games aren't counted...
The bias comment is funny, because it could be argued that leaving things as they are is pandering to those with their own agendas.
Several clubs had asked BQ for the introduction of a swap over challenge BEFORE grading began. Sort of kills the whinging because you didn't make it argument, doesn't it when it was being requested before a grading game had been played, or draws done.
Anyway each club gets a vote, hopefully each club will think of the competition and not of their own interests. Like I said earlier, the BSQ model worked perfectly, and the sooner we get back to that the better.
Can it be decided in a more unbiased way than a voting system?
And have seen teams that win a swap over challenge come in and win 5 games out of 7, (Redlands comes to mind) making some that made it through grading look like the donkeys...
I'm not whinging because my team didn't make it, (4 wins) I want to see the best format possible implemented.
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19-10-10, 14:48
As of last weekend the best teams are in the PL and the rest are in the SC.
Thats it, end of story.
If you as an association do not enter for the grading or muck it up because of under performance on the weekend so be it.
Take you licks and go and play SC if you consider that you have improved that much nominate for PL at the State Championships.
Replacing the team that is running last by a team that did not qualify is a nonsense. You are essentially replacing a donkey with a jackass.
Because we all know that the really important work is done in the off-season (recruiting) and heaven-forbid somebody in SC gets a group together and works to develop their skills to the point where they might win a cross-over (and then some games).
Wouldn't want to provide any sort of incentive for that to happen would you? That might reward program-building and the teaching of skills rather than teaching 'winning basketball'.
Keep those talented kids down in SC and that way when we try and recruit them next year it will be easier because we'll be able to offer them a PL spot.
Do I sound a little cynical of your motives?
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19-10-10, 15:21
The competition hasn't started yet though, because the grading games aren't counted...
The bias comment is funny, because it could be argued that leaving things as they are is pandering to those with their own agendas.
Several clubs had asked BQ for the introduction of a swap over challenge BEFORE grading began. Sort of kills the whinging because you didn't make it argument, doesn't it when it was being requested before a grading game had been played, or draws done.
Anyway each club gets a vote, hopefully each club will think of the competition and not of their own interests. Like I said earlier, the BSQ model worked perfectly, and the sooner we get back to that the better.
Can it be decided in a more unbiased way than a voting system?
And have seen teams that win a swap over challenge come in and win 5 games out of 7, (Redlands comes to mind) making some that made it through grading look like the donkeys...
I'm not whinging because my team didn't make it, (4 wins) I want to see the best format possible implemented.
The timing is what makes this a joke. What have they been doing for the last 5 months? Surely they could have polled the associations at the end of last season. I hope the clubs think of the competition and tell this administration to get it's act together. Parents are paying money to this bunch of clowns.
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19-10-10, 16:37
Changing the rules after the grading is "unfair" and 'unethical". Teams enter the current grading system knowing the outcome...the whole argument about the crossover is irrelevant for this season.
Best for the comp argument......they should have qualified at grading.....they get their chance to play div 1 at state championships.....qualify under the sysytem in place. BQ needs some balls to stand by their decisions
If the crossover is wanted by a majority, bring it in next season, but have this outlined before the grading tournament.
Injuries, school commitments, family holidays - whatever the reason, whatever the time of year - there are always excuses..whether it be grading or for crossovers..
Everyone adopted the current grading and qualification system....so lets live with it for this year... If enough want changes for next year, bring it in PRIOR to the grading beginning....
Old ways are not always the best ways......we live in the new world
Me, I am in favour of more teams in Premier League.....why can't we have 10 or 12, 8 doesn't seem to be enough. If we are getting that good....maybe more teams in Premier League will stop all the club swap overs and recruiting of other teams players. Recruiting used to be about getting new kids into under 12s.....now it is NRL style, can't wait for the mid season requests for transfers to become legal.
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19-10-10, 20:44
Me, I am in favour of more teams in Premier League.....why can't we have 10 or 12, 8 doesn't seem to be enough. If we are getting that good....maybe more teams in Premier League will stop all the club swap overs and recruiting of other teams players. Recruiting used to be about getting new kids into under 12s.....now it is NRL style, can't wait for the mid season requests for transfers to become legal.
Now this is what BQ would do if they were really serious about developing basketball across the board and at all Associations.
This grading/restricted competition crap came about when Districts and BBI decided they would try and be the only two clubs a kid could play for if they were any good or wanted to play PL and in turn state.
Let every association who can field a team in all grades boys and girls play PL and improve their standard. Would eradicate the need for kids to have to move elsewhere thus gutting their home association of ever getting any better.
Having a challenge round is small compensation but makes the best of a totally screwed up administrative fiasco.
BQJBC was where every association fields a team, (10 teams per age group) didn't really do much for development of associations, or for competition. I remember a couple of games where BBI 14 boys scored 200 points and districts U16 boys 160 (not against our teams) even when they were thrown an offence in the 2nd half they'd never seen before and told they couldn't score unless they ran it. More teams concept would've worked if all associations were serious about or had resources to develop, but not all of them could... Players still did the grass is greener thing and moved around. all it did for us is force us to put a team in every age group, and do something about developing the players we had; in other words forced us to compete with the larger clubs.
There currently isn't a competition where there is 8 relatively even teams, some only have 4 and 4. Why widen the distance between top and bottom by putting more teams in. I don't remember some of our teams at the start of BQJBC getting any value out of 134 to 15 scorelines... Even the ones we managed to win by that sort of margin. If anything maybe 6 would be better than putting more in.
Problem is
20-10-10, 07:19
The problem is that there is no forum where clubs can meet and discuss issues.
Why is this so.
Because last year Districts and BBI challenged BQ about the cost at the open meeting. They wanted to know why BQ took over $30,000 from southern clubs to manage a competition that the south had run for ever at no real cost when they charged the north and central nothing. The only outcome from that meeting was the south continued to get taxed and Allan Ladewig was banned from attending meetings so he could not challenge staff or Board again.
This year, so no one gets to challenge anything (seems that way anyway), no meeting was held. Seems BQ policy is to keep everyone apart. That way nothing is ever challenged. When we ran as BSQ we had regular meetings where ideas were shared and the vote decided things.
BQJBC belongs to the southern clubs. I am all for returning it to the BSQ where the money stays in the south with us returning t where what we want happens.
BQJBC was where every association fields a team, (10 teams per age group) didn't really do much for development of associations, or for competition. I remember a couple of games where BBI 14 boys scored 200 points and districts U16 boys 160 (not against our teams) even when they were thrown an offence in the 2nd half they'd never seen before and told they couldn't score unless they ran it. More teams concept would've worked if all associations were serious about or had resources to develop, but not all of them could... Players still did the grass is greener thing and moved around. all it did for us is force us to put a team in every age group, and do something about developing the players we had; in other words forced us to compete with the larger clubs.
There currently isn't a competition where there is 8 relatively even teams, some only have 4 and 4. Why widen the distance between top and bottom by putting more teams in. I don't remember some of our teams at the start of BQJBC getting any value out of 134 to 15 scorelines... Even the ones we managed to win by that sort of margin. If anything maybe 6 would be better than putting more in.
Totally agree with what Fly has said here. In a perfect world wouldn't it be great to have 8 or even 10 evenly matched teams playing each other each week. Realisticaly this does not happen. No one benefits by the scorelines mentioned above.
This very issue was mentioned a few years ago when the current structure was revamped. It was agreed that in many instances there are only 4 or 5 competitive teams in PL. All attending this meeting agreed that this was indeed fact and a promise was made to try an adress this problem. IMO I think BQ thought it was too hard if the pools are uneven and it is much easier to manage the draws and such if we have 8 team pools in every PL age group regardless of the standard from1 to 8.
Allowing more average teams into PL is not the answer, as stated by Fly.
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20-10-10, 12:29
Totally agree with what Fly has said here. In a perfect world wouldn't it be great to have 8 or even 10 evenly matched teams playing each other each week. Realisticaly this does not happen. No one benefits by the scorelines mentioned above.
This very issue was mentioned a few years ago when the current structure was revamped. It was agreed that in many instances there are only 4 or 5 competitive teams in PL. All attending this meeting agreed that this was indeed fact and a promise was made to try an adress this problem. IMO I think BQ thought it was too hard if the pools are uneven and it is much easier to manage the draws and such if we have 8 team pools in every PL age group regardless of the standard from1 to 8.
Allowing more average teams into PL is not the answer, as stated by Fly.
Reducing the competition or keeping it small, will encourage more transfers, more of the big clubs pinching kids...get real.....the old scorelines don't happen anymore....teams would only enter Premier League if they can compete...and what is compete??? is twenty points a flogging??? It is about giving more kids a chance...and clubs a chance......from little things big things grow
the arguments about the funds are realistic.....but a separate point....
Reducing the competition or keeping it small, will encourage more transfers, more of the big clubs pinching kids...get real.....the old scorelines don't happen anymore....teams would only enter Premier League if they can compete...and what is compete??? is twenty points a flogging??? It is about giving more kids a chance...and clubs a chance......from little things big things grow
the arguments about the funds are realistic.....but a separate point....
The old score lines do still happen...at the grading weekend there was a scoreline of 59-4 or something and thats with a running clock. More of these score lines were seen at the 16 boys grading with scores like 80-8 and 115 to 25 or something like that. If the comp is to be combined this will happen.
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20-10-10, 14:37
I think the 8 team format works well in the existing time frame. everyone plays everyone twice and then off to the classics. A 10 team format would require another 4 weeks to run and without pulling out the calender I think thats problematic. Personally I always liked the mid season cross over challenge but have to agree that you have to play by the rules set out for the season. As long as the rules are in writing and pretty straight forward. I think its obvious why the U16 girls forum is the only one talking about the cross over.
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20-10-10, 15:12
I think the 8 team format works well in the existing time frame. everyone plays everyone twice and then off to the classics. A 10 team format would require another 4 weeks to run and without pulling out the calender I think thats problematic. Personally I always liked the mid season cross over challenge but have to agree that you have to play by the rules set out for the season. As long as the rules are in writing and pretty straight forward. I think its obvious why the U16 girls forum is the only one talking about the cross over.
I wish QLD would move forward and play their season like Melbourne. We are so backwards here playing a few games before Xmas, then having a huge break to then play the rest of the season and then the classics. There are no major tournaments played in QLD either. Why dont we play all season like Melbourne? The more we play and the tougher competition here the better we become.
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20-10-10, 20:51
Totally agree with what Fly has said here. In a perfect world wouldn't it be great to have 8 or even 10 evenly matched teams playing each other each week. Realisticaly this does not happen. No one benefits by the scorelines mentioned above.
This very issue was mentioned a few years ago when the current structure was revamped. It was agreed that in many instances there are only 4 or 5 competitive teams in PL. All attending this meeting agreed that this was indeed fact and a promise was made to try an adress this problem. IMO I think BQ thought it was too hard if the pools are uneven and it is much easier to manage the draws and such if we have 8 team pools in every PL age group regardless of the standard from1 to 8.
Allowing more average teams into PL is not the answer, as stated by Fly.
And what solution would you and Fly suggest to the small associations (Jimboomba/Noosa/University/etc etc) that have a young and inexperienced yet potentially talented membership/player base? (Maybe quit their small association and go join yours?)
So how do these associations ever grow and get their kids to PL when their best players are forced to move to a bigger club to develop?
It's not a professional league for Pete's sake. It's junior basketball. Let all kids have the opportunity to play at the top level (and improve) without having to move associations.
And what solution would you and Fly suggest to the small associations (Jimboomba/Noosa/University/etc etc) that have a young and inexperienced yet potentially talented membership/player base? (Maybe quit their small association and go join yours?)
So how do these associations ever grow and get their kids to PL when their best players are forced to move to a bigger club to develop?
It's not a professional league for Pete's sake. It's junior basketball. Let all kids have the opportunity to play at the top level (and improve) without having to move associations.
Ha ha, please these kids could not simply transfer to my association and play in our PL teams, we have our own internal rules to stop this from happening.
I would suggest that the clubs and kids play at the appropriate level for their team. An outstanding player at one of the samller association can make up his own mind where he wants to play. However I think you will find that these kids eventually have to leave their small association to play at a higher level notoffered in these centres, that's life.
If your small association has a great program kids will stay and prosper and other kids could even be attracted to join. A prime case in point is MDore, they are small in number but have a very good program that has developed lots of top level players.
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20-10-10, 23:41
I wish QLD would move forward and play their season like Melbourne. We are so backwards here playing a few games before Xmas, then having a huge break to then play the rest of the season and then the classics. There are no major tournaments played in QLD either. Why dont we play all season like Melbourne? The more we play and the tougher competition here the better we become.
If we were in Melbourne we would play the same as Melbourne. Just a few minor logistical issues of playing in South-East Qld: we lack the 10-12 court stadiums that associations have full access to like Melbourne; have a look around from BQJBC to QBL and tell me it's not the same volunteers in most associations - how would they manage both if played at the same time? and finally, there's that old distance thing - try driving to Toowoomba for a Friday night game, or even Maroochydore, which is not that far if you're north of the river, but still a frigging nightmare to get to on a Friday night. So you may think it's backwards, come up with a realistic solution and I'm sure people would be interested in what you have to say.
And what solution would you and Fly suggest to the small associations (Jimboomba/Noosa/University/etc etc) that have a young and inexperienced yet potentially talented membership/player base? (Maybe quit their small association and go join yours?)
So how do these associations ever grow and get their kids to PL when their best players are forced to move to a bigger club to develop?
It's not a professional league for Pete's sake. It's junior basketball. Let all kids have the opportunity to play at the top level (and improve) without having to move associations.
Been there. We were a small association not so long ago, in fact some people thought we were BBI third team when we were Brisbane Wizards. Took a lot of effort, hard work, a change of attitude and even having to outlay a bit of $$$ to get some quality people involved, some risks in that. But we've gone from being a small club which was essentially a feeder with a total member base of around 400 to where we are today.
No guarantee for success, but better than doing nothing other than having a whine.
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21-10-10, 09:02
If we were in Melbourne we would play the same as Melbourne. Just a few minor logistical issues of playing in South-East Qld: we lack the 10-12 court stadiums that associations have full access to like Melbourne; have a look around from BQJBC to QBL and tell me it's not the same volunteers in most associations - how would they manage both if played at the same time? and finally, there's that old distance thing - try driving to Toowoomba for a Friday night game, or even Maroochydore, which is not that far if you're north of the river, but still a frigging nightmare to get to on a Friday night. So you may think it's backwards, come up with a realistic solution and I'm sure people would be interested in what you have to say.
The distance thing is the same as it is in Melbourne. I played in Melb for many years and it took me and my family over an hour and a half to get to my own rep club and at times the same and if not more to other venues. Thats life if you want to play in the the hard tough competition in Melbourne so we should be looking at doing the same ting. I am not saying they have to play Friday nights, as a parent l would prefer to have my Fri night free, but l think the season itself should go from that start of the year and not the end of one year into another year. There is always options to work around but it is possible to do it. I just hope BQJBC are looking and thinking this way for the future and trying to work on solutions to have more major tournaments and not just the Classics/Nationals
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21-10-10, 09:13
Ha ha, please these kids could not simply transfer to my association and play in our PL teams, we have our own internal rules to stop this from happening.
I would suggest that the clubs and kids play at the appropriate level for their team. An outstanding player at one of the samller association can make up his own mind where he wants to play. However I think you will find that these kids eventually have to leave their small association to play at a higher level notoffered in these centres, that's life.
If your small association has a great program kids will stay and prosper and other kids could even be attracted to join. A prime case in point is MDore, they are small in number but have a very good program that has developed lots of top level players.
Yeh have heard about the internal rules where some associations wont accept association jumpers...but have seen first hand the evidence that it's a crock of shite.
Yes. life's tough and it's an extremely poorly administered sport in Qld with nothing about to change anytime soon, but my point is that it shouldnt be a "fact of life" that good kids have to leave their smaller associations to play PL.
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21-10-10, 09:22
Been there. We were a small association not so long ago, in fact some people thought we were BBI third team when we were Brisbane Wizards. Took a lot of effort, hard work, a change of attitude and even having to outlay a bit of $$$ to get some quality people involved, some risks in that. But we've gone from being a small club which was essentially a feeder with a total member base of around 400 to where we are today.
No guarantee for success, but better than doing nothing other than having a whine.
Yeh Woody has done a great job out there. Old school basketball pedigree. Of course had a few things going for him too. 4 court airconditioned stadium, metropolitan population base, big city sponsorship opportunities, etc etc. Bet Jimboomba or Noosa would turn the same results with the $$$, facilities and population that Northside has.
Good on Northside for making a go of it too. Just sad that kids have to go and play there or somewhere else to play PL.
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21-10-10, 10:27
The problem is that there is no forum where clubs can meet and discuss issues.
Why is this so.
Because last year Districts and BBI challenged BQ about the cost at the open meeting. They wanted to know why BQ took over $30,000 from southern clubs to manage a competition that the south had run for ever at no real cost when they charged the north and central nothing. The only outcome from that meeting was the south continued to get taxed and Allan Ladewig was banned from attending meetings so he could not challenge staff or Board again.
This year, so no one gets to challenge anything (seems that way anyway), no meeting was held. Seems BQ policy is to keep everyone apart. That way nothing is ever challenged. When we ran as BSQ we had regular meetings where ideas were shared and the vote decided things.
BQJBC belongs to the southern clubs. I am all for returning it to the BSQ where the money stays in the south with us returning t where what we want happens.
I've noted most posts get some type of reply
There is a strange silence to this post though, why is that?
Too scared to speak out?
Too accurate?
Too close to the mark?
If this is really the case, what can be done?
Seems very strange to me that so much money is taxed on just a few clubs without a measurable outcome other than paying for a bureaucracy that doesn't do anything. Isn't there a charter regarding meetings that BQ would have to abide by?
Yeh have heard about the internal rules where some associations wont accept association jumpers...but have seen first hand the evidence that it's a crock of shite.
Yes. life's tough and it's an extremely poorly administered sport in Qld with nothing about to change anytime soon, but my point is that it shouldnt be a "fact of life" that good kids have to leave their smaller associations to play PL.
I never said that a kid had to leave their smaller associations to play PL. What I said was " kids have to leave their small association to play at a higher level not offered in these centres". I wasn't aware that Jimboomba, Noosa or University have a QBL team?
You might be associated with a club that does not police their transfer rules, mine does and it is no crock of "shite" as you so elequently put it.
As far as the way sport is adminstered, bet you are not on your association board? Easy to whinge, harder to roll up your sleves and make a diference?
Yeh Woody has done a great job out there. Old school basketball pedigree. Of course had a few things going for him too. 4 court airconditioned stadium, metropolitan population base, big city sponsorship opportunities, etc etc. Bet Jimboomba or Noosa would turn the same results with the $$$, facilities and population that Northside has.
Good on Northside for making a go of it too. Just sad that kids have to go and play there or somewhere else to play PL.
Who's woody? only woody at northside played pg in our qbl team for a while, maybe i misunderstood you.
Big city sponsorship... regional centres have proven it is easier to get sponsorship in this sport look at the awesome job bundy, rocky etc have been able to do. facilities, we don't own one, and have minimal use of it. anyway that's off topic.
There was a BQJBC meeting this year, like every other year. maybe I misunderstood what was written originally in that post. Not going to get into semantics about who was at bq when they took over BSQ... which is also off topic.
I think most people believe the best format we've seen in sth qld for the last 12 years or so is the bsq model.
oh and for the person implying that the talk about crossover is only because a club missed out in this division. wrong, if this was in any other forum the discussion would have begun. the clubs were talking to bq about it prior to grading anyway.
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22-10-10, 00:04
I never said that a kid had to leave their smaller associations to play PL. What I said was " kids have to leave their small association to play at a higher level not offered in these centres". I wasn't aware that Jimboomba, Noosa or University have a QBL team?
You might be associated with a club that does not police their transfer rules, mine does and it is no crock of "shite" as you so elequently put it.
As far as the way sport is adminstered, bet you are not on your association board? Easy to whinge, harder to roll up your sleves and make a diference?
1. I am. (The maladministration isnt at Association level)
2. Mine does. Have signed clearances this season for kids going to those who speak shite.
3. Wasnt aware that this topic was about QBL? Junior basketball and kids being allowed to play Premier League if I read it right.
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22-10-10, 00:13
Who's woody? only woody at northside played pg in our qbl team for a while, maybe i misunderstood you.
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Maybe I have it wrong. Was speaking to Alan Woodford (played for W Mitchy/early Bullets, was XXXX marketing, back when Freddy V. was boss?) early this year at a Blaze game and he told me he was Pres at Northside. He was there to talk with Bubbles about the upcoming QBL season, maybe QBL and Juniors are separate Boards. I could have got it arse about but. Easy to get socially excited at Owen's shows on the Coast.
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22-10-10, 00:54
Yeh have heard about the internal rules where some associations wont accept association jumpers...but have seen first hand the evidence that it's a crock of shite.
Yes. life's tough and it's an extremely poorly administered sport in Qld with nothing about to change anytime soon, but my point is that it shouldnt be a "fact of life" that good kids have to leave their smaller associations to play PL.
I see your point, however im a Caboolture Suns supporter and have been since its inseption, and i have seen many talented kids leave to play premier league. now last season and im pretty sure this season caboolture wont be fielding any PL teams, so ive seen at least 5 or 6 kids leave. mostly to wizards and m'dore but im pretty sure one went to Spartans and made the first team so i totally agree with you on the "crock of shit" statement but i think that it needs to come down to the administration of the association to get/spend money on quality coaches and impliment programmes that work. whats wrong with asking for help from associations that get it right? dont have to copy them just implement their ideas in a way that will work for you association. this topic has been run to death but I guess it comes down to what the kids feel is better for them.
just my 2 cents
Maybe I have it wrong. Was speaking to Alan Woodford (played for W Mitchy/early Bullets, was XXXX marketing, back when Freddy V. was boss?) early this year at a Blaze game and he told me he was Pres at Northside. He was there to talk with Bubbles about the upcoming QBL season, maybe QBL and Juniors are separate Boards. I could have got it arse about but. Easy to get socially excited at Owen's shows on the Coast.
Oh that woody, yes he's been great for us, but the post you replied to was talking about 6 or so years agol anyway. agree this has been done to death. time will tell what vote says.
1. I am. (The maladministration isnt at Association level)
2. Mine does. Have signed clearances this season for kids going to those who speak shite.
3. Wasnt aware that this topic was about QBL? Junior basketball and kids being allowed to play Premier League if I read it right.
Good on you great to see that you do the work.
Why do the kids leave your association then? Thats the question I would be asking. We get a few that leave every year too, and we never stand in their way. We do try and find out why they leave, to see if our program can be improved. I must admit we get good players transfering in every year, but they have to meet the criteria to be allowed in our rep teams. So I know that my club is not one of the ones you speak of. We ask them why they come and use that information too.
If it is about kids playing PL? I got it wrong sorry. I was thinking it was about kids having a crack at playing in the highest level possible? A place in PL is earnt, and that is the way it should be. If you are saying that every club should be ALLOWED to play PL, I shudder to think of some of the score lines if that was the case. We have been there and done that and it was embarassing at times for some teams.
Would love to see 8 strong teams in every age group, but until the associations get their act together it will not happen. I think BQ can do it a bit better too, but we as clubs need to take the lead in this area. It was noted that last year 2 major clubs challenged BQ on the running of this competiton, and the silence was deafining from most of the other associations. So we continue with the current set up.
Good luck with it all.
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22-10-10, 13:13
Good on you great to see that you do the work.
Why do the kids leave your association then? Thats the question I would be asking. We get a few that leave every year too, and we never stand in their way. We do try and find out why they leave, to see if our program can be improved. I must admit we get good players transfering in every year, but they have to meet the criteria to be allowed in our rep teams. So I know that my club is not one of the ones you speak of. We ask them why they come and use that information too.
If it is about kids playing PL? I got it wrong sorry. I was thinking it was about kids having a crack at playing in the highest level possible? A place in PL is earnt, and that is the way it should be. If you are saying that every club should be ALLOWED to play PL, I shudder to think of some of the score lines if that was the case. We have been there and done that and it was embarassing at times for some teams.
Would love to see 8 strong teams in every age group, but until the associations get their act together it will not happen. I think BQ can do it a bit better too, but we as clubs need to take the lead in this area. It was noted that last year 2 major clubs challenged BQ on the running of this competiton, and the silence was deafining from most of the other associations. So we continue with the current set up.
Good luck with it all.
Thanks mate.
No we dont have any worries with kids leaving us but I despair for the smaller associations when their good kids either languish in SC, dont get a shot at State or leave so they have the shot at PL to develop their game. I feel so strongly about it that I go and coach at smaller associations and work with their coaches where possible to try and help strengthen their programs.
I admit to taking on a kid once who was from another Association...not a struggling one, but the MAJOR one in the Sth. Tried everything I could to disuade him and decided he wouldnt play in front of a local kid even if he persisted. He did persist. Didnt give him an answer till I heard that he didnt make the cut for BBI so gave him the nod and he made the thrice weekly trek every week for the entire season. Turns out he was the best "team man" we had and was the pivotal player off the bench in our Classics win that year.
As a kid I was at times on those teams that got flogged 70-4 and I can assure you I learned something from every game. Later I was on the teams that were doing the winning and my coaches were still able to make it a worthwhile experience by playing us out of position, using different starters and rotations and setting us unpracticed plays and defenses straight off the chalkboard to develop our understanding and adaptability to game situations.
I take your point about 8 strong teams and a tough game every week and admit I enjoy the experience of seeing my players challenged every game. Just wish there was some way we could accomodate ALL kids (of a minimum standard of course) into the top tier comp.
I thought it was a real tragedy when a rich basketball heritage like Toowoomba had to drop out of PL a few years back because they couldnt field in every Division, then lost a lot of their good kids then in turn had difficulty qualifying a few years later and in turn have lost more good kids.
Gotta hand it to Redlands for doing the hard yards and persisting in Div 2/3 till they qualified for PL but how many good kids did they lose in those intervening years?
I remember years ago my first PL game I coached was for Logan and we got beat 113-16 (and against my old association and flatmates team-did I cop some?!) But 10 weeks later we played the same team and with 10 secs. to go my lefty 3 man (girl actually) got a fingertip to a ball in the passing lane, ran it down and laid it up to give us a 64-63 win.
Those teams getting hammered by the big associations can become contenders in the space of a season or two and thats got to be good for basketball and association development and participation across the board.
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22-10-10, 13:16
Oh that woody, yes he's been great for us, but the post you replied to was talking about 6 or so years agol anyway. agree this has been done to death. time will tell what vote says.
Thanks. I gave your "think of basketball and not your own patch" speech to our coaches and we went option 1 by 5-4.
Cheers
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23-10-10, 00:28
A top line coach who is prepared to put the work in over 18 months could take any size association into Premier League in the u12/u14 divisions.
Players leave teams to go to all other teams, they dont just leave smaller associations to go to bigger ones.
The mere fact that people are complaining about missing out on Premier League means that the concept is working.
Teams winning 100-20 doesnt do anyone any good. Players in the weak team end up dropping out of the sport. Players in the strong team dont get the competition they need to improve. Our referees dont get to experience reffing close highly competitive games.
The bigger associations who had team miss out on Div 1 PL, it shoudl serve as a wake up call to your coaches, coaching director and player and parents that more work is required. You need to lift your standard. If your team missed out on Div 1, go back play div 2, put in the effort to improve, you still get a chance for classics wildcard. so if you are good enough you can still win through to state div 1.
In regards to players from smaller associations not getting identified playing div 2.....well premier league hasnt even started, and we already have state squads trials, players being selected. If a player is good enough they will get noticed at trials.
The only thing that really needs fixing is moving the junior comp back into the same calendar year as every other state......it will happen eventually... it only got moved early because of the 2000 Olympics......and no one moved it back.........
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23-10-10, 13:46
A top line coach who is prepared to put the work in over 18 months could take any size association into Premier League in the u12/u14 divisions.
Players leave teams to go to all other teams, they dont just leave smaller associations to go to bigger ones.
The mere fact that people are complaining about missing out on Premier League means that the concept is working.
Teams winning 100-20 doesnt do anyone any good. Players in the weak team end up dropping out of the sport. Players in the strong team dont get the competition they need to improve. Our referees dont get to experience reffing close highly competitive games.
The bigger associations who had team miss out on Div 1 PL, it shoudl serve as a wake up call to your coaches, coaching director and player and parents that more work is required. You need to lift your standard. If your team missed out on Div 1, go back play div 2, put in the effort to improve, you still get a chance for classics wildcard. so if you are good enough you can still win through to state div 1.
In regards to players from smaller associations not getting identified playing div 2.....well premier league hasnt even started, and we already have state squads trials, players being selected. If a player is good enough they will get noticed at trials.
The only thing that really needs fixing is moving the junior comp back into the same calendar year as every other state......it will happen eventually... it only got moved early because of the 2000 Olympics......and no one moved it back.........
Obviously a true basketball person. Knows all about small associations and their "top line coaches" and "coaching directors". Sure the small ones all have coaching directors and top line coaches hanging out the windows. (Whats the good of top line coaches if theres no kids there to coach?) Even one of those folks who knows true players are selected by their ability to run drills at "trials". Great insight about how good the BQJBC refs are, obviously because they get to ref so many "top line" games. Wonder which option you chose on the wildcard challenge? Guess kids and associations should just accept they arent good enough and be content to play sc because they will never get a shot at the PL. Of course that wouldnt make them choose another sport would it?
With all that knowledge you have maybe you should volunteer your services to one of those small associations for 12-18 months at u/12/u14 level and get them into PL?
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23-10-10, 21:23
Obviously a true basketball person. Knows all about small associations and their "top line coaches" and "coaching directors". Sure the small ones all have coaching directors and top line coaches hanging out the windows. (Whats the good of top line coaches if theres no kids there to coach?) Even one of those folks who knows true players are selected by their ability to run drills at "trials". Great insight about how good the BQJBC refs are, obviously because they get to ref so many "top line" games. Wonder which option you chose on the wildcard challenge? Guess kids and associations should just accept they arent good enough and be content to play sc because they will never get a shot at the PL. Of course that wouldnt make them choose another sport would it?
With all that knowledge you have maybe you should volunteer your services to one of those small associations for 12-18 months at u/12/u14 level and get them into PL?
16's is such small fry. Why all the shit. Great forum as it sorts out the haves and have nots.
(parents not players) Good luck parents.
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24-10-10, 10:57
16's is such small fry. Why all the shit. Great forum as it sorts out the haves and have nots.
(parents not players) Good luck parents.
Not sure how an internet forum "sorts out the haves and have nots" but guess you know more than the average kitchen appliance.
Even if your talking about associations that have huge numbers and income and those that have not, associations that manipulate BQ to ensure the state coaches come from them to attract players looking for an easy path to state and those that have NOT that concept in their development plan, players that have the ability and attitude to play at the next level and those that have not or even whether we have world peace or have not, I'm stumped how Mr. B3ns internet forum sorts that out?
Just a local yokel with no idea how the big city thinks.
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24-10-10, 11:49
Not sure how an internet forum "sorts out the haves and have nots" but guess you know more than the average kitchen appliance.
Even if your talking about associations that have huge numbers and income and those that have not, associations that manipulate BQ to ensure the state coaches come from them to attract players looking for an easy path to state and those that have NOT that concept in their development plan, players that have the ability and attitude to play at the next level and those that have not or even whether we have world peace or have not, I'm stumped how Mr. B3ns internet forum sorts that out?
Just a local yokel with no idea how the big city thinks.
Too hard to read. I gave up after the first two lines.
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24-10-10, 21:50
U15 Blu Chip Southern Queensland Girls Team.
Sammi Deakin Sharpe
Krystal McKenzie
Milly Disteldorf
Bridget Obrien
Courtney Woods
Regan McCarthey
Georgia McCarron
Kellianne Saul
Whitney Weehee
Natalie St Clair
Awesome Job Girls!
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25-10-10, 00:07
U15 Blu Chip Southern Queensland Girls Team.
Sammi Deakin Sharpe
Krystal McKenzie
Milly Disteldorf
Bridget Obrien
Courtney Woods
Regan McCarthey
Georgia McCarron
Kellianne Saul
Whitney Weehee
Natalie St Clair
Awesome Job Girls!
Fantastic side, scores a 9 out of 10. How could Kaiden not make that team. She is a star.
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25-10-10, 08:10
Strong team - lots of guards - who are the reserves?
Fantastic side, scores a 9 out of 10. How could Kaiden not make that team. She is a star.
Did she trial; no idea if she did? I would agree that she is indeed a very good player.
Certainly is not the be all if kids do not make these teams at 13 years of age.
Nice team that will do well, congrats to all selected.
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25-10-10, 10:19
U15 Blu Chip Southern Queensland Girls Team.
Sammi Deakin Sharpe
Krystal McKenzie
Milly Disteldorf
Bridget Obrien
Courtney Woods
Regan McCarthey
Georgia McCarron
Kellianne Saul
Whitney Weehee
Natalie St Clair
Awesome Job Girls!
Lots of points in this team , need to teach them some mongrel defence.
Couple of the 3 and 4 type players should enjoy not having the added burden of helping the guards get the ball up the court.
Good blend of height , speed and plenty of skill.
Hope that Kaiden can fight her way back for future teams, not the end here just the beginning for these kids.
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25-10-10, 15:37
Lots of points in this team , need to teach them some mongrel defence.
Couple of the 3 and 4 type players should enjoy not having the added burden of helping the guards get the ball up the court.
Good blend of height , speed and plenty of skill.
Hope that Kaiden can fight her way back for future teams, not the end here just the beginning for these kids.
Does anyone know if Kaiden is playing for Ipswich this year?
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25-10-10, 17:52
Thats an odd question just because she is not in the blue chip squad. Could this be a poacher? Just kidding. Does anyone know if Kaiden is playing for Ipswich this year?
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25-10-10, 20:18
Does anyone know if Kaiden is playing for Ipswich this year?
Does it matter or not. She did not seem happy at grading so i wouldn't be surprised if she went to another association. Only time will tell if she does play for Ippy or not!
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25-10-10, 21:01
Does it matter or not. She did not seem happy at grading so i wouldn't be surprised if she went to another association. Only time will tell if she does play for Ippy or not!
She is still at Ipswich, and plans to stay.
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25-10-10, 22:06
She is still at Ipswich, and plans to stay.
Yeah after she tried to move but couldn't!!
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26-10-10, 00:00
This weeks predictions? Who is playing who and what do we think the results will be?
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26-10-10, 11:28
Maroochy vs ipswich this saturday. Not an easily decided game. Maroochy very small but that didnt matter at grading. Nat st clair very determined to take this team to new heights even without the height. Could be an easy win for maroochy if the above comments are valid and kaiden has in fact left ipswich. This weeks predictions? Who is playing who and what do we think the results will be?
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26-10-10, 11:40
Maroochy vs ipswich this saturday. Not an easily decided game. Maroochy very small but that didnt matter at grading. Nat st clair very determined to take this team to new heights even without the height. Could be an easy win for maroochy if the above comments are valid and kaiden has in fact left ipswich.
would that be the comment "that she plans to stay" or "she tried to move but couldn't".
I would have thought that after trialling with squad , playing with the team at qualifying you had pretty much made a commitment for the season.
Will let easy win for maroochy fly through to the keeper .......
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26-10-10, 12:04
Yeah after she tried to move but couldn't!!
WOW.So the truth is out..life goes on
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26-10-10, 12:59
Maroochy vs ipswich this saturday. Not an easily decided game. Maroochy very small but that didnt matter at grading. Nat st clair very determined to take this team to new heights even without the height. Could be an easy win for maroochy if the above comments are valid and kaiden has in fact left ipswich.
Maroochydore girls won't be expecting an easy win off any team this season.
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26-10-10, 13:24
Rumours! Rumours! Rumours! Why dont we find out from the source. So much speculation. Not enough fact. WOW.So the truth is out..life goes on
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26-10-10, 15:19
Gold Coast Waves vs South West Metro Pirates
Ipswich Force vs Maroochydore
Southern Districts Spartans vs Seahawks GC
Northside Wizards vs Logan Thunder
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26-10-10, 15:31
Gold Coast Waves vs South West Metro Pirates
Ipswich Force vs Maroochydore
Southern Districts Spartans vs Seahawks GC
Northside Wizards vs Logan Thunder
SW VS GC, SW in a tight one
Ipswich vs Maroochydore: Maroochy but it will be a lot closer that the previous post suggests
SD vs Seahawks: Match of the round, who knows how SD will turn up on the day, although very close, SD to win, but I think Seahawks will push them hard
Logan Vs NS: Logan to win comfortably, GO NS
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26-10-10, 15:48
Gold Coast Waves vs South West Metro Pirates
Ipswich Force vs Maroochydore
Southern Districts Spartans vs Seahawks GC
Northside Wizards vs Logan Thunder
Gold Coast Waves vs South West Metro Pirates - South West too strong
Ipswich Force vs Maroochydore - Ippy easy at home
Southern Districts Spartans vs Seahawks GC - Definately game of the round. SD in a close one
Northside Wizards vs Logan Thunder - Logan to be the top of the ladder after the first round.
Go get em girls.
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27-10-10, 10:23
Does anyone have an opinion with regards to the players
to watch this season. Such a great age for potential.
Any thoughts?
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27-10-10, 11:06
Does anyone have an opinion with regards to the players
to watch this season. Such a great age for potential.
Any thoughts?
This is still an age where there is various levels of development (physical, mental and skillfull) across the age group.
Some players who should have an impact on the competition are
Kristy Wallace - SD
Hanah Tusa - SD
Taylor Mosslar - Logan
Sanderson Twins - Logan
Caitlyn B - RB
Jamie Heal - RB
Savannah - SW
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27-10-10, 13:29
Gold Coast Waves vs South West Metro Pirates
Listed as a bye.
Ipswich Force vs Maroochydore
Ipswich should beat Marooch quite easily at home, this will be a long hard year for the Maroochy girls. IPS +20
Southern Districts Spartans vs Seahawks GC
SD and Seahawks is going to give a early read on who will be the pace setter for the comp , perhaps for the rest of the year. Two very cagey coaches here and I dont think that they overplayed their hands at the gradings. SD +8
Northside Wizards vs Logan Thunder
I expect that NS will stay with Logan early on but will fall away as the game progresses. Logan will press hard on the NS guards. Logan +19
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27-10-10, 21:01
Gold Coast Waves vs South West Metro Pirates
Listed as a bye.
Ipswich Force vs Maroochydore
Ipswich should beat Marooch quite easily at home, this will be a long hard year for the Maroochy girls. IPS +20
Southern Districts Spartans vs Seahawks GC
SD and Seahawks is going to give a early read on who will be the pace setter for the comp , perhaps for the rest of the year. Two very cagey coaches here and I dont think that they overplayed their hands at the gradings. SD +8
Northside Wizards vs Logan Thunder
I expect that NS will stay with Logan early on but will fall away as the game progresses. Logan will press hard on the NS guards. Logan +19
look for upset ns to win by 2
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28-10-10, 11:27
Can't wait - Ippy, SD and Logan the winners for the round
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28-10-10, 15:01
Girls South:
DEAKIN-SHARPE Sammi
DISTELDORF Milly
McCARRON Georgia
McCARTY Regan
McKENZIE Krystle
O'BRIEN Bridget
SAUL Kellianne
ST CLAIR Natalie
WEHI Whitnee
WOODS Courtney
Reserves
FLEMING Tessa
FRAMPTON Ashleigh
HOWARD Taylah
LINDBOLM Evelina
O'BRIEN Gabrielle
Head Coach
Trevor Cook
Assistant Coach
Sarah Conn
Manager
Linda Ambrose
Girls North:
BIN DOL Kee'han
BUCK Ashtyn
FAIR Danielle
GAMBLE Gracie
GRAY Mykenzie
KING Tylah
KIRK Alicia
MUGRIDGE Gemma
ROSS Amber
SARON Kahlee
Reserves
STORTI Adele
FULLER Brittany
BARBAGALLO Molly
FOORD Aleisha
Head Coach
Rebecca Dudic
Assistant Coach
Jody Vasta
Network Coach
Graham Ross
Manager
Shannon Hanley
Congrats all those kids in that group. They should go very well When they go away... First round is just around the corner, good luck to all teams this weekend.
So much for coaching development. rrevor cook and Dudic coaching the teams. IF BQ were serious this is where new coaches get a go. Surely someone in north could have been at this event> If no one applied then how much trouble is our sport in.
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29-10-10, 07:58
So much for coaching development. rrevor cook and Dudic coaching the teams. IF BQ were serious this is where new coaches get a go. Surely someone in north could have been at this event> If no one applied then how much trouble is our sport in.
Dudic will find a way to cause disharmony and self doubt in these girls. Wouldn't let her coach my dog to fetch a ball.
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29-10-10, 15:21
So much for coaching development. rrevor cook and Dudic coaching the teams. IF BQ were serious this is where new coaches get a go. Surely someone in north could have been at this event> If no one applied then how much trouble is our sport in.
Hey, you can also add to the 16 boys forum. Seems Blue Chip cops it every year. Doesn't matter who gets picked or who coaches. This is so much fun. Bag everybody. Can you share with us how we play too. Do you have to have a child that misses out? I think this could be the key. Or maybe a disgruntled coach that misses out on the selection process.
For those not chosen by BQ you can always make an application to Spartans who attend on equal footing with BQ squads and other State teams. A lot cheaper to attend with SDBAL as well. They do encourage other athletes from other programs. They even one the under 17 men last year defeating the Vics.
Spartans if they do it like last year also fly in a USA coach to assist in preparation and devlopment. They get a professional caterer in, making sure everyone can perform at peak.
Steve Lennon heading up the women with Leroy Loggins heading up the mens program.
I am guessing plaers going with Spartans will learn more and enjoy more. Parents will love the cheaper rate. hahaa
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29-10-10, 16:13
For those not chosen by BQ you can always make an application to Spartans who attend on equal footing with BQ squads and other State teams. A lot cheaper to attend with SDBAL as well. They do encourage other athletes from other programs. They even one the under 17 men last year defeating the Vics.
Spartans if they do it like last year also fly in a USA coach to assist in preparation and devlopment. They get a professional caterer in, making sure everyone can perform at peak.
Steve Lennon heading up the women with Leroy Loggins heading up the mens program.
I am guessing plaers going with Spartans will learn more and enjoy more. Parents will love the cheaper rate. hahaa
Of course they encourage athletes from other associations, that is a standard poaching technique for SD.
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29-10-10, 19:21
Of course they encourage athletes from other associations, that is a standard poaching technique for SD.
You just stay at home and bitch about it ....well done.
So much for coaching development. rrevor cook and Dudic coaching the teams. IF BQ were serious this is where new coaches get a go. Surely someone in north could have been at this event> If no one applied then how much trouble is our sport in.
Not sure about north coach, but original south coach had to withdraw for their own reasons.
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29-10-10, 19:34
For those not chosen by BQ you can always make an application to Spartans who attend on equal footing with BQ squads and other State teams. A lot cheaper to attend with SDBAL as well. They do encourage other athletes from other programs. They even one the under 17 men last year defeating the Vics.
Spartans if they do it like last year also fly in a USA coach to assist in preparation and devlopment. They get a professional caterer in, making sure everyone can perform at peak.
Steve Lennon heading up the women with Leroy Loggins heading up the mens program.
I am guessing plaers going with Spartans will learn more and enjoy more. Parents will love the cheaper rate. hahaa
But wouldnt your kid rather be coached by Trevor Cook than Leroy?? bizarre isnt it!
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29-10-10, 20:43
But wouldnt your kid rather be coached by Trevor Cook than Leroy?? bizarre isnt it!
Strangely enough, yes and I don't think this is a forum to criticise coaches.
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29-10-10, 21:04
Strangely enough, yes and I don't think this is a forum to criticise coaches.
Strange indeed.
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29-10-10, 22:46
But wouldnt your kid rather be coached by Trevor Cook than Leroy?? bizarre isnt it!
Leroy's coaching the U17 Spartans boys, Trevor the U15 Qld South girls, so why even draw a comparison? Their both great coaches & both should do well with their respective teams in their respective competitions, but it's not like their competing against each other.
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30-10-10, 09:26
Leroy's coaching the U17 Spartans boys, Trevor the U15 Qld South girls, so why even draw a comparison? Their both great coaches & both should do well with their respective teams in their respective competitions, but it's not like their competing against each other.
Trevor Cook, 'great coach' ???? Do your research.
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30-10-10, 23:14
SD + 30 over Seahawks , pretty scrappy from both teams.
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31-10-10, 16:02
SD + 30 over Seahawks , pretty scrappy from both teams.
any more results from other games?
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31-10-10, 17:06
any more results from other games?
36 Northside Wizards def. by Logan Thunder 82
79 SD Spartans def. Seahawks GC 48
71 Ipswich Force def. Maroochydore 45
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31-10-10, 19:28
I thought Ipswich did really well when I was watching them great job!!!!!!!!!
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01-11-10, 09:27
But wouldnt your kid rather be coached by Trevor Cook than Leroy?? bizarre isnt it!
Both coaches are good in their own way and people really shouldn't judge them.
Can you do better?
My daughter attends training with Trevor Cooke every week and if l could have her do the same with Leroy l would too.
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01-11-10, 09:53
Gold Coast Waves vs South West Metro Pirates
Listed as a bye.
Ipswich Force vs Maroochydore
Ipswich should beat Marooch quite easily at home, this will be a long hard year for the Maroochy girls. IPS +20
Southern Districts Spartans vs Seahawks GC
SD and Seahawks is going to give a early read on who will be the pace setter for the comp , perhaps for the rest of the year. Two very cagey coaches here and I dont think that they overplayed their hands at the gradings. SD +8
Northside Wizards vs Logan Thunder
I expect that NS will stay with Logan early on but will fall away as the game progresses. Logan will press hard on the NS guards. Logan +19
Wow, pretty accurate opinion
Logan were a bit rusty and they are definitely beatable, the key iseems to be stop their guards coming up the court at will
Well Done Regan from NS, never gave up and tried her hardest all match, an inspiration to her team
Go NS
What happened to Seahawks? They are a better side than that or did SD just play to their full potential
Great result from Ippy, keep going like that and they'll challenge the top teams
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01-11-10, 10:02
Wow, pretty accurate opinion
Logan were a bit rusty and they are definitely beatable, the key iseems to be stop their guards coming up the court at will
Well Done Regan from NS, never gave up and tried her hardest all match, an inspiration to her team
Go NS
What happened to Seahawks? They are a better side than that or did SD just play to their full potential
Great result from Ippy, keep going like that and they'll challenge the top teams
SD were not even close to playing at their best , lots of improvement left in them. Like everyone else they need to get some matches under their belts and still to get combinations quite right.
Heard the SD are playing Logan this week. That should sort things out nicely.
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