U18 Girls Premier League 10/11

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New season, new thread.

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Was very suprised to read the Australian U17 team came 7th at the world championships in France. 1st place Usa 2nd France

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New season, new thread.

how did goldcoast u18 girls tryouts go today

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how did goldcoast u18 girls tryouts go today

Looked pretty solid, although probably not as many triallists as we would have liked to have seen.

Boys had around 40 trial with a fairly good mix of top and bottom agers. Should be a pretty solid team and they may surprise a couple of the more fancied and talked about teams this season.

Will be interesting to see how all of the Gold Coast 18's teams go this season, especially with the State Championships being played at home in 2011.

Best turn out numbers wise from the first Gold Coast trials were in order; 18 boys, 14 boys (a lot of talent here, the second team will be pretty good too) and then 16 boys. In the girls best turnout was in the 16's age group.

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College scholarships for the right players.

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The future is for us

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So there can be no confusion for those players/parents who are considering options for 2011 onwards.

Junior players identified trying out for other Associations are advised that they will not be considered for our BQJBC teams. We accept everyone has a right to play where they want but we wish to remain loyal to those players who select our program over the "grass may be greener mentalty" that is creeping into our sport. We want those families and players that want to represent us at all times to undertsand they are what we are about.

Players who elect to move "grass is greener" we thank for past efforts and wish them well.

Also so all are aware we are also adopting the policy of only using home grown players (under 20 and below) currently playing within our competition to support our senior programs in future.

Juniors who have been involved in our senior programs but elect to represent another junior club will no longer be allowed to try out for our senior teams the following season.

This Association puts a lot of time and effort into the senior program and players not willing to be part of the pathway we again thank you for you past efforts and wish you well in your senior years within other teams and competitions.

The Association is no longer going to use players from other programs in front of players within our own program. To play for us you have to be playing in our competitions and/or programs.

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The future is for us

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So there can be no confusion for those players/parents who are considering options for 2011 onwards.

Junior players identified trying out for other Associations are advised that they will not be considered for our BQJBC teams. We accept everyone has a right to play where they want but we wish to remain loyal to those players who select our program over the "grass may be greener mentalty" that is creeping into our sport. We want those families and players that want to represent us at all times to undertsand they are what we are about.

Players who elect to move "grass is greener" we thank for past efforts and wish them well.

Also so all are aware we are also adopting the policy of only using home grown players (under 20 and below) currently playing within our competition to support our senior programs in future.

Juniors who have been involved in our senior programs but elect to represent another junior club will no longer be allowed to try out for our senior teams the following season.

This Association puts a lot of time and effort into the senior program and players not willing to be part of the pathway we again thank you for you past efforts and wish you well in your senior years within other teams and competitions.

The Association is no longer going to use players from other programs in front of players within our own program. To play for us you have to be playing in our competitions and/or programs.

How many seabl players are home grown southern districts juniors?

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How many seabl players are home grown southern districts juniors?

Think the policy will change this in a hurry. Many players talking to Lady Spartans management with new SEABL program and direction about to be announced.

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So which associations we think will be the pick for premier league?

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So which associations we think will be the pick for premier league?

considering most teams haven't been picked yet, no one.

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I believe there will be no Toowoomba team this year. From what I am told two travelling down from Toowoomba to try out in Ipswich. Both made first side may not be a strong team this year as most players will be bottom age but for the 2011 and 2012 season if the Toowoomba girls continue to play in Ipswich will be a side to beat when they are top age.

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So which associations we think will be the pick for premier league?

SWM Pirates have a very strong formidable side with the return of 4 players from last year MW, CS, OT, D and a good bottom age line up KP, CH, CT. It is going to be a great season.

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Grading Venues:

U18 Girls PL and U16 Boys PL – Northside Wizards (Boondall Entertainment Centre)

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South west by a hundred miles.

Can't see anyone challenging them at all.

Logan -not enough depth.

BBI - don't think so.

Maroochydore -too many bottom agers.

District- do they anything other than overrated bottom agers?

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South west by a hundred miles.

Can't see anyone challenging them at all.

Logan -not enough depth.

BBI - don't think so.

Maroochydore -too many bottom agers.

District- do they anything other than overrated bottom agers?

That looks like an educated prediction!!! Haha. Next time your gonna post maybe have some reasons to back up your madness.

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The future is for us

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So there can be no confusion for those players/parents who are considering options for 2011 onwards.

Junior players identified trying out for other Associations are advised that they will not be considered for our BQJBC teams. We accept everyone has a right to play where they want but we wish to remain loyal to those players who select our program over the "grass may be greener mentalty" that is creeping into our sport. We want those families and players that want to represent us at all times to undertsand they are what we are about.

Players who elect to move "grass is greener" we thank for past efforts and wish them well.

Also so all are aware we are also adopting the policy of only using home grown players (under 20 and below) currently playing within our competition to support our senior programs in future.

Juniors who have been involved in our senior programs but elect to represent another junior club will no longer be allowed to try out for our senior teams the following season.

This Association puts a lot of time and effort into the senior program and players not willing to be part of the pathway we again thank you for you past efforts and wish you well in your senior years within other teams and competitions.

The Association is no longer going to use players from other programs in front of players within our own program. To play for us you have to be playing in our competitions and/or programs.

what about others coming to try out for spartens...welcomed as usual....self serving rubbish - you will pick whoever suits, and change policy to suit whatever scenario.....who are you kidding

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[QUOTE=Unregistered;29203]South west by a hundred miles.

Can't see anyone challenging them at all.

Logan -not enough depth.

BBI - don't think so.

Maroochydore -too many bottom agers.

District- do they anything other than overrated bottom agers?[/QUOT

Agree, SW look to be the team to beat this year, but question though, BBI? Why not?

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Wat about ippi?

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Any team with that Tiana kid in it is going to be tough. Heard Kalani is following the likely championship team again and choosing to play at SWest. Shame next year when Districts are best in the state by a country mile and poor kids stuck with her SWM buddies. Remember, Big Al wont let 'em back! Thats the "rule" haha! Logan will be tough with Myers running off Donnely. Maroochydore girls still a bit young and dont expect anything from them this year. With Tony Stephens coaching at Districts and Tiana playing there I reckon they will still be one team playing the Classics final.

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Wat about ippi?

Ipswich only have two top age players, the rest are all bottom age players, they have two girls from towoomba (Samara and Bree), and have four point guards. I really can't see Ipswich really being anything but a practice match for teams that play against them.

:) My pridiction is that Ipswich will make Premier League but as the eighth team.

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Yeah I'm also curious, why so strongly doubting bbi?

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what about runaway bay girls...?

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what about runaway bay girls...?

what about Northside?

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this is what i think.
south west will be strong as they have 2 greatly skilled bigs.
logan wont be as strong as usual as they have lost donnelly to the AIS and alot of their players to runaway bay. however still strong.
runaway bay will be the underdogs. they have gained skill from other associations and will be strong.
Spartans have tiana, who made the australian team for her age. and a great coach. they will be strong
i dont no much about maroocheydore but they are always a good fast team.
brisbane caps has a all around team with a good bench so they will also be quite strong
all in all i believe that this competition this year will be quit evenly matched with no standouts as of yet.
But all willl see at the grading comp. Goodluck to everyone.

yous better bring it :)

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Thinking the strongest 18 girls comp in some years. Solid basis of players from last year being joined by a National medalist team of bottom agers makes for a pretty exciting next two years especially this one. "Yous better bring it" certainly applies because anyone who underestimates any team based on form from times past or who they have or havent recruited will do so at their peril.

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Thinking the strongest 18 girls comp in some years. Solid basis of players from last year being joined by a National medalist team of bottom agers makes for a pretty exciting next two years especially this one. "Yous better bring it" certainly applies because anyone who underestimates any team based on form from times past or who they have or havent recruited will do so at their peril.

Well said!

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Male and female players interested in competing with the Brisbane Spartans in 2011 should email an expression of interest to sdbal@bigpond.net.au

In your email you will need to provide height, experience and when you would become available.

In 2011 we are looking to run a second tier team based on young players looking to make the progression to senior basketball. This will happen in both men and women.

"To make a move to get to where you want to be all you have to do is take the first step."


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Spartans policy

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The future is for us

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So there can be no confusion for those players/parents who are considering options for 2011 onwards.

Junior players identified trying out for other Associations are advised that they will not be considered for our BQJBC teams. We accept everyone has a right to play where they want but we wish to remain loyal to those players who select our program over the "grass may be greener mentalty" that is creeping into our sport. We want those families and players that want to represent us at all times to undertsand they are what we are about.

Players who elect to move "grass is greener" we thank for past efforts and wish them well.

Also so all are aware we are also adopting the policy of only using home grown players (under 20 and below) currently playing within our competition to support our senior programs in future.

Juniors who have been involved in our senior programs but elect to represent another junior club will no longer be allowed to try out for our senior teams the following season.

This Association puts a lot of time and effort into the senior program and players not willing to be part of the pathway we again thank you for you past efforts and wish you well in your senior years within other teams and competitions.

The Association is no longer going to use players from other programs in front of players within our own program. To play for us you have to be playing in our competitions and/or programs.

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Spartans policy

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The future is for us

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So there can be no confusion for those players/parents who are considering options for 2011 onwards.

Junior players identified trying out for other Associations are advised that they will not be considered for our BQJBC teams. We accept everyone has a right to play where they want but we wish to remain loyal to those players who select our program over the "grass may be greener mentalty" that is creeping into our sport. We want those families and players that want to represent us at all times to undertsand they are what we are about.

Players who elect to move "grass is greener" we thank for past efforts and wish them well.

Also so all are aware we are also adopting the policy of only using home grown players (under 20 and below) currently playing within our competition to support our senior programs in future.

Juniors who have been involved in our senior programs but elect to represent another junior club will no longer be allowed to try out for our senior teams the following season.

This Association puts a lot of time and effort into the senior program and players not willing to be part of the pathway we again thank you for you past efforts and wish you well in your senior years within other teams and competitions.

The Association is no longer going to use players from other programs in front of players within our own program. To play for us you have to be playing in our competitions and/or programs.

Big call and great advertisement. SD should be careful about making these kinds of statements. If an import player gets in over a loyal seasonal player shit will hit the fan. And guess what? There is nothing that the loyal player can do except move. Smoke and mirrors.

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If you want to play at level recognised as second only to NBL and WNBL in Australia do what is best for yourself. Sprtans haters are always going to be there. Nothing wrong with having a go. If you are good enough you will get a chance to get somewhere. Policy is there to rid the Spartans of people who jump each year. They will use own juniors in future but there will always be room for others who have the skills. Guys this is senior basketball being played at a high level. Have a go and find out if you have what it takes to play at what is Australias second level competition. State leagues are no longer the ABA. This is where players with dreams and talent need to play.

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If you want to play at level recognised as second only to NBL and WNBL in Australia do what is best for yourself. Sprtans haters are always going to be there. Nothing wrong with having a go. If you are good enough you will get a chance to get somewhere. Policy is there to rid the Spartans of people who jump each year. They will use own juniors in future but there will always be room for others who have the skills. Guys this is senior basketball being played at a high level. Have a go and find out if you have what it takes to play at what is Australias second level competition. State leagues are no longer the ABA. This is where players with dreams and talent need to play.

I wish you and others would stop saying SD haters. No one cares. We aren't jealous just practical. Good luck to the concept and I'm sure you've drawn up a five year plan and track each players progress. One thing to put into place a terrific idea another to monitor the progress. Sounds like you are creating your own little AIS satellite unit. It's the 'throw a net over the elite and pull em up' concept. Some of these players will go further and others drop out. Looking forward to seeing the results.

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So can I just clarify - I'm a bear of very little brain!

Prior to the junior rep season SD published (I assume it was them) a brand new policy stating that they would look after their juniors in senior teams in future - no more club hopping for us. Implicit in that was the idea that if you aspire to play SEABL from Brisbane you need to be playing juniors for SD.

Then once the season has started and players are committed to their junior teams, SD (I assume again) publish an open invitation to express an interest in joining their senior teams for 2011. Basically - we didn't get you with our last threat so now we're inviting you to join us (complete with motivational tag).

Am I missing something here?

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However you see it. if your child wants to play ball at a high level that is a great oppertunity
so get over your ideas, who cares. it is a oppertunity for your child.

now, im not even a spartans player, and to be honest they aren't my favourite association, but i am a big enough person to admit that playing seable is a great chance to enhance your skill and gain experience.

if your serious about basketball, why not?

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Am I missing something here?[/QUOTE]

Yes I believe you are, last SEABL season 4 juniors were involved with the Spartans women, of these 4, 2 WERE current Spartans players and 2 were from other associations. Bring around another junior rep season and of those 4 players only 1 now plays with Spartans, so although these girls took advantage of the best competition and training available in Queensland they repaid Spartans by either leaving or going back to their associations. What, I believe, Alan is trying to do is keep these players after so much is invested in them.

So the option is there for girls if they chose to take advantage of the SEABL program then they will be expected to continue to play for Spartans.

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playing seable is a great chance to enhance your skill and gain experience.

if your serious about basketball, why not?
1. Playing SEABL for Spartans is not where you go to "enhance your skills and experience". It's a professional senior league and no junior basketballer will be playing in it unless they are Gretel Tippet standard.
2. Which leads to the next point...if your that good and really that good, not just believing what Al's telling you as you hand over your cash, you'll be at the AIS, in America or playing in the NBL/WNBL and "enhancing your skills and experience".

...and if your naive enough to believe that SEABL is going to get you somewhere and that your kid is actually going to play in it whilst a junior, just remember theres one place it definately wont get you and thats to an NCAA College. NCAA rules prevent granting of scholarships to athletes who have played in or for a professional program. Whether the athlete themself has been paid or not-if anyone in that program receives payment or the NCAA recognises it as a 'professional league' (SEABL is classed as one) then your no longer eligible.

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1. Playing SEABL for Spartans is not where you go to "enhance your skills and experience". It's a professional senior league and no junior basketballer will be playing in it unless they are Gretel Tippet standard.
2. Which leads to the next point...if your that good and really that good, not just believing what Al's telling you as you hand over your cash, you'll be at the AIS, in America or playing in the NBL/WNBL and "enhancing your skills and experience".

...and if your naive enough to believe that SEABL is going to get you somewhere and that your kid is actually going to play in it whilst a junior, just remember theres one place it definately wont get you and thats to an NCAA College. NCAA rules prevent granting of scholarships to athletes who have played in or for a professional program. Whether the athlete themself has been paid or not-if anyone in that program receives payment or the NCAA recognises it as a 'professional league' (SEABL is classed as one) then your no longer eligible.

This last bit is totally not true. This is the OLD NCAA rules. An eligble student athlete can play not only SEABL or even NBL as long has they do not reicieve any money to play.

Once again by all means present your arguement, but either know the facts or stop trying to spin crap with untruths.

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How about we talk about this on a different Forum. This is meant to be about the under 18's. There is a grading weekend and all everyone wants to talk about is Spartens. Who really cares, any associations will take players as its money in the bank..

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It seems OK for Allan to talk about it in this thread!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Please to anyone that is writing on the u18 girls forum about things that are not about the u18's can you please start a different forum. I am bored and I am sure I am not the only one.

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is jayson neal helping jade abel coaching u18

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Oh peoples in the know....who made top 6 in the gradings and who played off.

Ok, know SW is looking good, but others teams, whats the opinions out there?

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Oh peoples in the know....who made top 6 in the gradings and who played off.

Ok, know SW is looking good, but others teams, whats the opinions out there?

Here is your Premier League for 2010/11 Seahawks, SW, Logan, Spartans, Maroochydore, BBI, Ippy, Northside

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In No Particular Order;
South West
Spartans
Logan
Brisbane (first team)
Runaway Bay
Maroochydore
Ipswich
Northside Wizards

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Not convinced SW has all the goods and/or the answers.
Nonetheless, should be an interesting season for 4 teams at least.

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SWM have the goods and the answers! Look totally dominant (but I know at least two other coaches with fairly credible plans how to beat them) Shane's Seahawks, (IMHO) are the potentially best and deepest outfit in the comp. It will most likely be between those two. Districts with Tiana are always going to be close or on top of most teams. Brisbane look fast and athletic, will be well structured and win the majority of games. Logan just look "big" and whether thats enough for them to win I guess time will tell. Maroochydore didnt have their full team there but are entirely bottom age. Played some stylish ball and at speed but might find this more a development year. Ipswich were missing 2 interior players and will be interesting to see when at full strength. Didn't get to see the Northside team but heard they are credible.
1.Seahawks
2.SWM
3. Districts
4. Brisbane
(See how close that is come next year)

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SWM have the goods and the answers! Look totally dominant (but I know at least two other coaches with fairly credible plans how to beat them) Shane's Seahawks, (IMHO) are the potentially best and deepest outfit in the comp. It will most likely be between those two. Districts with Tiana are always going to be close or on top of most teams. Brisbane look fast and athletic, will be well structured and win the majority of games. Logan just look "big" and whether thats enough for them to win I guess time will tell. Maroochydore didnt have their full team there but are entirely bottom age. Played some stylish ball and at speed but might find this more a development year. Ipswich were missing 2 interior players and will be interesting to see when at full strength. Didn't get to see the Northside team but heard they are credible.
1.Seahawks
2.SWM
3. Districts
4. Brisbane
(See how close that is come next year)

Logan will be there befor sd and bris

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Would be good if someone posted final PL qualifiers

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would be good if you just looked at the last page.

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what are everyones opinion on the state selections?
who do you think will make it based on what they've played like previously?
is politics this year a big facter?
oh and the known names?

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what are everyones opinion on the state selections?
who do you think will make it based on what they've played like previously?
is politics this year a big facter?
oh and the known names?
Without even one round of the competition being played your asking about State teams???
Sounds like the next post will be about someone or other that you reckon should be a certainty.
Yourself perhaps?
Tiana and Donnely would be the only players anyone could be reasonably sure of at this stage. If your as good as them then count yourself in.

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Without even one round of the competition being played your asking about State teams???
Sounds like the next post will be about someone or other that you reckon should be a certainty.
Yourself perhaps?
Tiana and Donnely would be the only players anyone could be reasonably sure of at this stage. If your as good as them then count yourself in.

I would think Maddie Willey, Ashley Taea and Christina from South West would be amongst this group. Also like Aleisha Myers.

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I would think Maddie Willey, Ashley Taea and Christina from South West would be amongst this group. Also like Aleisha Myers.
Yeh I know there's a huge push from the SWM contingent. They've recruited well and will probably win the local Premiership. Haven't seen a lot of them but from what I have some questions were raised on their efficacy at National level. Willey is pretty good, dont know the other two and Aleisha will find it hard to be effective with her one-out game at National level. (Good as it is in local comp) If she can make those adjustments she's a very handy commodity in the lanes and on the boards. Like I said earlier but, the season hasnt even started yet, there's a long way to go and I'm NOT the State Coach. Just know it's going to be a very interesting 18 Girls comp this year. The State team should sort itself out from there. So happy days!

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Would be good if someone posted final PL qualifiers

When's the draw coming out for this weekend's round?

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first round isn't til next weekend.

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well this is boring.
but in saying that, boring is good because it means that parents arent talking rubbish about the players.

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Yeh I know there's a huge push from the SWM contingent. They've recruited well and will probably win the local Premiership. Haven't seen a lot of them but from what I have some questions were raised on their efficacy at National level. Willey is pretty good, dont know the other two and Aleisha will find it hard to be effective with her one-out game at National level. (Good as it is in local comp) If she can make those adjustments she's a very handy commodity in the lanes and on the boards. Like I said earlier but, the season hasnt even started yet, there's a long way to go and I'm NOT the State Coach. Just know it's going to be a very interesting 18 Girls comp this year. The State team should sort itself out from there. So happy days!

You need smarts on offence not just the ability to drive the length of the court and force shots up in traffic and you need to help your team mates on defense that being the most important thing for the state team when you have several who can score smart.

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You need smarts on offence not just the ability to drive the length of the court and force shots up in traffic and you need to help your team mates on defense that being the most important thing for the state team when you have several who can score smart.
Yep for sure. Reckon we'll see a lot of Bball I.Q. development in a lot of these girls through this coming season. Some pretty good coaches around the comp and reckon the girls will get "the smarts" in quick time.

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Yeah reckon they should have smarts by the time you reach the U18 age group especially if your pushing for state selection.

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first round isn't til next weekend.

My tips for the weekend, should be some great games, will be very hard to predict.
South west v maroochy - should be a beauty, both very strong. Tip South west
Ipswich v Brisbane - should be close, depends on injuries, Brisbane just because has more top agers
Spartans v seahawks - match of the round. this could come down to the wire. tip seahawks but need to watch out for hometown refs
wizards v logan - logan too good

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Seahawks up by one over Spartans.

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South West (without Christina) over Maroochydore by 6.

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Brisbane by 7 over Ipswich

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Any standouts for the weekend?

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Any standouts for the weekend?

Yeah, the pathetic refereeing at Ipswich in the U18 girls against Brisbane Caps, I would call that a standout - OMG....... both sides complaining, this is not a practice sessions for the refs, this is U18 premier league, go back to the club games, read your rules and learn....

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Yeah, the pathetic refereeing at Ipswich in the U18 girls against Brisbane Caps, I would call that a standout - OMG....... both sides complaining, this is not a practice sessions for the refs, this is U18 premier league, go back to the club games, read your rules and learn....

Couldn't agree more....... certainly not biased though.... was terrible at both ends!!

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Couldn't agree more....... certainly not biased though.... was terrible at both ends!!

Exactly, the calls they made, my 10 year old would have made better, turned a great game into an absolute disgrace, really disappointing for both sides. I hope we never have to see them again. As I said, this is premier league.

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Northside Wizards Summer Slam Tournament 2011

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Any standouts for the weekend?
haha! Glad someone chipped in about the refs on this one...notice nobody keen to highlight their standouts for other coaches to see. Its always amazing how players dynamics change with their physical and mental development during these years. Last years superstar can look very average and last years also ran can suddenly become very prominent. Will be an interesting and challenging competition this year.

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Couldn't agree more....... certainly not biased though.... was terrible at both ends!!

were they two older guys (40's +) that did the game, had them out there last year and was a farce

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Yeah, the pathetic refereeing at Ipswich in the U18 girls against Brisbane Caps, I would call that a standout - OMG....... both sides complaining, this is not a practice sessions for the refs, this is U18 premier league, go back to the club games, read your rules and learn....

It's not easy to referee the premier league games. I know as i ref them. Everyone is going to have bad games and a different interpretation of the rules and thats how they call it. Instead of getting on here bitching and complaining about the reffing why dont you sit a course get a whistle and help them out a little! With the large number of teams that are nominated for BQJBC it is a hard task for associations to try and get refs for all the time slots as it is that would be a reason for having younger less confident refs on some of these games.

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It's not easy to referee the premier league games. I know as i ref them. Everyone is going to have bad games and a different interpretation of the rules and thats how they call it. Instead of getting on here bitching and complaining about the reffing why dont you sit a course get a whistle and help them out a little! With the large number of teams that are nominated for BQJBC it is a hard task for associations to try and get refs for all the time slots as it is that would be a reason for having younger less confident refs on some of these games.

Actually, these were two older and apparently more experienced referees. And whilst I have not personally sat the course, my child has, and actually refereed an earlier (although younger age group) premier league game I believe there were no complaints there!!. Because of my child's interest and enthusiasm in refereeing (and playing) I take great interest in the rules and interpretations, and these were just blatant 'wrong' calls from apparently 'high level' referees... I do understand the strain on associations to provide referees, and do encourage people to sit a course, get a whistle, and help out. My child loves refereeing almost as much as playing!

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[QUOTE=easticles;29914]It's not easy to referee the premier league games. I know as i ref them. Everyone is going to have bad games and a different interpretation of the rules and thats how they call it. Instead of getting on here bitching and complaining about the reffing why dont you sit a course get a whistle and help them out a little! With the large number of teams that are nominated for BQJBC it is a hard task for associations to try and get refs for all the time slots as it is that would be a reason for having younger less confident refs on some of these games.[/QUOTE

Clean interpretation and consistency of calls is where the trouble begins and that stems from their mentoring and education as referees. Maybe this should be on the referees forum but if we say something about it now, maybe the rest of the season will be a pleasant one for players, spectators, coaches and referees alike.

PS: About the bitching, please remember most of the people watching basketball these days have been involved in this sport in one way or another either playing coaching and/or refereeing for around 20 to 30 years, and have found the standard of refereeing has changed over the years, all because of this so called interpretation.

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[QUOTE=easticles;29914]It's not easy to referee the premier league games. I know as i ref them. Everyone is going to have bad games and a different interpretation of the rules and thats how they call it. Instead of getting on here bitching and complaining about the reffing why dont you sit a course get a whistle and help them out a little! With the large number of teams that are nominated for BQJBC it is a hard task for associations to try and get refs for all the time slots as it is that would be a reason for having younger less confident refs on some of these games.[/QUOTE

Clean interpretation and consistency of calls is where the trouble begins and that stems from their mentoring and education as referees. Maybe this should be on the referees forum but if we say something about it now, maybe the rest of the season will be a pleasant one for players, spectators, coaches and referees alike.

PS: About the bitching, please remember most of the people watching basketball these days have been involved in this sport in one way or another either playing coaching and/or refereeing for around 20 to 30 years, and have found the standard of refereeing has changed over the years, all because of this so called interpretation.
Well said and very true. Conventional logic would indicate that by speaking up now the refs would take it upon themselves to improve. Sadly, thats an old school practice not recognised by a lot of todays 'up and coming' refs. I dont include the good ones here. They are good because they listened to feedback, learned and worked on their games, like any good player. Thats why they have the respect of the players and coaches. Its the ones who use the exam and whistle as a form of power social prominence or some cash income without any regard for the game of basketball or the people who are paying for their 'services'.
Too common to see them simply hide behind the whistle and disregard and disrespect people who have been involved in the game since they were in nappies, working for the betterment of the game and as volunteers not as paid employees who seemingly have no accountability apart from their likeminded peers. More likely speaking up will only get your team 'marked' for punitive action all season as a show of the immense 'power' and 'righteousness' that the whistle gives them.

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Well said and very true. Conventional logic would indicate that by speaking up now the refs would take it upon themselves to improve. Sadly, thats an old school practice not recognised by a lot of todays 'up and coming' refs. I dont include the good ones here. They are good because they listened to feedback, learned and worked on their games, like any good player. Thats why they have the respect of the players and coaches. Its the ones who use the exam and whistle as a form of power social prominence or some cash income without any regard for the game of basketball or the people who are paying for their 'services'.
Too common to see them simply hide behind the whistle and disregard and disrespect people who have been involved in the game since they were in nappies, working for the betterment of the game and as volunteers not as paid employees who seemingly have no accountability apart from their likeminded peers. More likely speaking up will only get your team 'marked' for punitive action all season as a show of the immense 'power' and 'righteousness' that the whistle gives them.

Thank god they have whistle's not guns!!

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My understanding is that Brisbane was contacted by Ipswich to bring referees. Brisbane did not bring anyone with them. I understand that the association that is hosting should have the referees but obviously Ipswich knew they were struggling for referees. If anyone from Brisbane is complaining you need to go and see your association and ask why they were unable to assist Ipswich.

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My observation from the weekend is that the Ipswich and Brisbane was marred by poor refering Brisbane will struggle if they continue to play this way, I am suprised Ipswich did not capitlise on the Brisbane players on 4 fouls in the third quarter. Ipswich will come eight with not many team players but only individuals. At this ageall players should know that if you want to play individual go and do swimming.

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Thank god they have whistle's not guns!!
Haha! Too true, too true...
Still not fair on the kids themselves and especially the parents who are forking out big bucks for their kids to play this sport. It's an oft asked question in these times of the modern sporting market..."Just what is my kid getting for the investment in Basketball?"
Most associations are lifting the administrative standards and Steve's '5 on 5' initiative around associations self auditing is probably a contributing factor. Great to see Associations moving away from the "kitchen table sports administration" into more professional models. Feel there's still much work to be done with the essential services (Coaching and Officiating) BQ must supply to the game for the money they receive.

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My understanding is that Brisbane was contacted by Ipswich to bring referees. Brisbane did not bring anyone with them. I understand that the association that is hosting should have the referees but obviously Ipswich knew they were struggling for referees. If anyone from Brisbane is complaining you need to go and see your association and ask why they were unable to assist Ipswich.

The young female referree was from Brisbane.

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Haha! Too true, too true...
Still not fair on the kids themselves and especially the parents who are forking out big bucks for their kids to play this sport. It's an oft asked question in these times of the modern sporting market..."Just what is my kid getting for the investment in Basketball?"
Most associations are lifting the administrative standards and Steve's '5 on 5' initiative around associations self auditing is probably a contributing factor. Great to see Associations moving away from the "kitchen table sports administration" into more professional models. Feel there's still much work to be done with the essential services (Coaching and Officiating) BQ must supply to the game for the money they receive.

Why must people always blame referees for a loss. The referees didn't have an impact on the result, the calls were consistent on both sides and so was their interpretation. Brisbane were able to adjust and came back in the last quarter after being behind all game. Ipswich girls stopped playing with the same intensity. End of story lets move on.

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Why must people always blame referees for a loss. The referees didn't have an impact on the result, the calls were consistent on both sides and so was their interpretation. Brisbane were able to adjust and came back in the last quarter after being behind all game. Ipswich girls stopped playing with the same intensity. End of story lets move on.

No-one has blamed the referees for Ipswich's loss... as a matter of fact if you read all of the previous posts they mention that the calls/referees were not biased at all - and the calls were consistent... just consistently bad!

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Why must people always blame referees for a loss. The referees didn't have an impact on the result, the calls were consistent on both sides and so was their interpretation. Brisbane were able to adjust and came back in the last quarter after being behind all game. Ipswich girls stopped playing with the same intensity. End of story lets move on.
The post you quoted had nothing to do with who lost and who won whichever game. The earlier poster also mentioned lack of bias, just consistently BAD calls and interpretations. It's that lack of ability that the paying public are complaining about. I also wonder if you realise just how insulting it is for an experienced coach to be hearing from some kid who knows nothing about the game past the answers to the refs test they sat to be spruiking that their ridiculous calls didnt have an impact on the result of a game. But thanks for getting all self defensive and highlighting th earlier point about some referees not wanting to be accountable nor accepting constructive feedback on their performances.

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A great game ruined by big mouth idiot parents from Spartans yelling abuse at coaches and players. Why do the assoc sell grog at kids games? Why don't the officials remove these idiots from the stadium.. I guess the scoreboard resolves the issue.

Onto the game:

Lots of fouls (55), Seahawks with four left on the court and win it in the last seconds of the match.

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A great game ruined by big mouth idiot parents from Spartans yelling abuse at coaches and players. Why do the assoc sell grog at kids games? Why don't the officials remove these idiots from the stadium.. I guess the scoreboard resolves the issue.

Onto the game:

Lots of fouls (55), Seahawks with four left on the court and win it in the last seconds of the match.

anyone who yells abuse at shane heal deserves a medal.
he can easily dish it out but as soon as he gets it back he throws a tantrum and has a fight with a parent.
its in a coaches conduct to not do that.
keeping in mind its in the parent conduct aswell.
they are both in the wrong lets leave it at that.

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anyone who yells abuse at shane heal deserves a medal.
he can easily dish it out but as soon as he gets it back he throws a tantrum and has a fight with a parent.
its in a coaches conduct to not do that.
keeping in mind its in the parent conduct aswell.
they are both in the wrong lets leave it at that.
Reckon the first line about sums up the professional and cultural mentality of the poster.
Ones an ex-Olympic Captain, current Boomers coach, future NBL hall-of-famer, the other(s) are ????
Shane observes the coaches code of conduct good enough to be employed by BA and recognised internationally. Spartans club dont even observe the rules of the Incorporated Associations Act to be eligible to play in BQ competitions let alone standards of decorum and behaviour around the serving of alcohol at junior sporting events.

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Reckon the first line about sums up the professional and cultural mentality of the poster.
Ones an ex-Olympic Captain, current Boomers coach, future NBL hall-of-famer, the other(s) are ????
Shane observes the coaches code of conduct good enough to be employed by BA and recognised internationally. Spartans club dont even observe the rules of the Incorporated Associations Act to be eligible to play in BQ competitions let alone standards of decorum and behaviour around the serving of alcohol at junior sporting events.

Just because one has a list of credentials doesn't allow them to be put on a pedestal and be exempt from the rules the rest of us are expected to follow. Though what is usually the case, is the one with the credentials gets away with murder.
Either way "observing the coaches code of conduct WELL enough" is not good enough, as is the poor conduct of the observing parent. What is the old saying " two wrongs don't make it right"?

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Reckon the first line about sums up the professional and cultural mentality of the poster.
Ones an ex-Olympic Captain, current Boomers coach, future NBL hall-of-famer, the other(s) are ????
Shane observes the coaches code of conduct good enough to be employed by BA and recognised internationally. Spartans club dont even observe the rules of the Incorporated Associations Act to be eligible to play in BQ competitions let alone standards of decorum and behaviour around the serving of alcohol at junior sporting events.

Want to send an email to sdbal@bigpond.net.au stating what you have said above and I will arrange for you to be proven wrong plus a few other surprises I will enjoy giving you. Then Spartans will expect an apology.
If we did not comply with law then we would not be eligible to recieve funding through grants from State & Federal bodies. Last time I looked we do so and I am pretty sure that we get our fair share. Also pretty sure that given we compete in the BQJBC (number one junior club last three years in SEQ) and Classics we comply with BQ rules. You really have no idea. Better to keep your mouth shut and let us all think you are an idiot then open it and prove us all right. hahahaha
You, however, will not send an email though as you are a gutless individual hiding behind your key board.

Your call coward.

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A great game ruined by big mouth idiot parents from Spartans yelling abuse at coaches and players. Why do the assoc sell grog at kids games? Why don't the officials remove these idiots from the stadium.. I guess the scoreboard resolves the issue.

Onto the game:

Lots of fouls (55), Seahawks with four left on the court and win it in the last seconds of the match.

Since this post is 5 days after the actual event you have obviously been stewing over it all week rather than relishing in your victory from last weekend and using it to focus on your upcoming game in 2 days.

This incident isn't totally one sided as you interpret it. The "abuse" (your word, not mine) was going in every direction. Parent to coach, coach to parent, player to parent, player to player, parent to parent, coach to referees and parents to referees. This was from BOTH teams.

I agree it was an excellent game, however everyone who chose to involve themselves can accept responsibility in what escalated.

The real victims are the girls who played their guts out and had to witness such a spectacle.

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Since this post is 5 days after the actual event you have obviously been stewing over it all week rather than relishing in your victory from last weekend and using it to focus on your upcoming game in 2 days.

This incident isn't totally one sided as you interpret it. The "abuse" (your word, not mine) was going in every direction. Parent to coach, coach to parent, player to parent, player to player, parent to parent, coach to referees and parents to referees. This was from BOTH teams.

I agree it was an excellent game, however everyone who chose to involve themselves can accept responsibility in what escalated.

The real victims are the girls who played their guts out and had to witness such a spectacle.

This isn't the first time that Runaway Bay Parents have behaved in this manner. Poblem being people don't put the complaints in writing. I know one parent is rude and obnoxious, every game I have seen him whether it is schools, club or rep.

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This isn't the first time that Runaway Bay Parents have behaved in this manner. Poblem being people don't put the complaints in writing. I know one parent is rude and obnoxious, every game I have seen him whether it is schools, club or rep.

Both sides had parents who showed poor form. Regardless of who instigated and who reacted the result was still bad. Hopefully those involved will show better judgemet at future games. For the sake of your kids atleast. No child wants to see their father show aggression at their games no matter what the reason.

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[QUOTE=Unregistered;30004]This isn't the first time that Runaway Bay Parents have behaved in this manner. Poblem being people don't put the complaints in writing. I know one parent is rude and obnoxious, every game I have seen him whether it is schools, club or rep.[/QUOTE

We weren't at the game you speak of, but you could only be talking of a parent we have seen over & over again at RB games. I'm not sure how other associations work, but even without official complaints if you had a parent like that they should be pulled aside for a chat and if that didn't work a complaint by the coach or manager. Just the sheer embarrassment of being apart of the supporters with someone like that would normally make someone say something official, unless of course there is approval of the low standard, therefore other spectating parents are to scared to speak out because of ramifications.

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[QUOTE=Unregistered;30004]This isn't the first time that Runaway Bay Parents have behaved in this manner. Poblem being people don't put the complaints in writing. I know one parent is rude and obnoxious, every game I have seen him whether it is schools, club or rep.[/QUOTE

We weren't at the game you speak of, but you could only be talking of a parent we have seen over & over again at RB games. I'm not sure how other associations work, but even without official complaints if you had a parent like that they should be pulled aside for a chat and if that didn't work a complaint by the coach or manager. Just the sheer embarrassment of being apart of the supporters with someone like that would normally make someone say something official, unless of course there is approval of the low standard, therefore other spectating parents are to scared to speak out because of ramifications.
We've played Seahawks in this age group for the last few years beat them most times and got beaten too. NEVER repeat NEVER seen the type of behaviour your talking about by any Runaway Bay person at any of those games. Games always good contests and they are playing exceptionally well with Shane's coaching. (Good enough in fact to get totally screwed by the refs, be down to 4 players left and still beat Spartans.) Sure the misbehaving person is from Seahawks?

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Spartans 0-2 after going down to Maroochy in a tight one. Spartans missing Tiana. Mdore without Yasmin Miller (injured.)

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We weren't at the game you speak of, but you could only be talking of a parent we have seen over & over again at RB games. I'm not sure how other associations work, but even without official complaints if you had a parent like that they should be pulled aside for a chat and if that didn't work a complaint by the coach or manager. Just the sheer embarrassment of being apart of the supporters with someone like that would normally make someone say something official, unless of course there is approval of the low standard, therefore other spectating parents are to scared to speak out because of ramifications.

thats so hypocritical...

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Yes spartans went down again. But both games have been very close and not much in it at all.

After all the talk of poor refereeing last week, I'd have to say that the refs at Maroochy did a very good job. Consistent both ways.

Jess G had another superior game from the 3 point line but even so Spartans managed to stay close the whole game. Overall a very good game.

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Yes spartans went down again. But both games have been very close and not much in it at all.

After all the talk of poor refereeing last week, I'd have to say that the refs at Maroochy did a very good job. Consistent both ways.

Jess G had another superior game from the 3 point line but even so Spartans managed to stay close the whole game. Overall a very good game.

well I'm suprised at how well spartans have been doing without Tiana. Its worried me a bit to be honest.

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Yes spartans went down again. But both games have been very close and not much in it at all.

After all the talk of poor refereeing last week, I'd have to say that the refs at Maroochy did a very good job. Consistent both ways.

Jess G had another superior game from the 3 point line but even so Spartans managed to stay close the whole game. Overall a very good game.
Yeh had Callum who was a standout at 16 Nats and a very fit Rob Tueta. Game is always higher quality and players gain more knowledge and experience when games are controlled well by officials with game sense and understanding.
Tiana (with Taylor Chant-Vic Metro) arguably the best 2 PGs in the nation in their age group (down age 18s) and any team will sorely miss that level of talent. Districts extremely solid outfit under Tony and Bec Stephens and will be even tougher with Tiana back.
M'dores Meike Griggs unstoppable inside/out, off the dribble, o-boards/ put back and trans O & D. Maroochy shaping into a decent outfit in their bottom age year. Should keep the top teams honest.

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Maroochydore vs Northside Wizards

SW Metro vs Logan Thunder

SD Spartans vs BBI Capitals

Ipswich Force vs Seahawks GC

Whats the scoop on these matchups?

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Maroochydore vs Northside Wizards

SW Metro vs Logan Thunder

SD Spartans vs BBI Capitals

Ipswich Force vs Seahawks GC

Whats the scoop on these matchups?

What's the predictions for Top 15 for State Team??

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What's the predictions for Top 15 for State Team??

The comp is way more interesting for the moment.
Talking state teams after 2 games just opens the door for kids and their parents to start talking themselves up hoping Pam will somehow go with all the expert opinions she reads here.

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well I'm suprised at how well spartans have been doing without Tiana. Its worried me a bit to be honest.

Brisbane smash Districts by 20 points.

Nothing to be worried about here from Districts.

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Brisbane smash Districts by 20 points.

Nothing to be worried about here from Districts.

Districts in the running to be dropped to division 2 on last nights weak performance. Not much "ticker" shown by this group last night.

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Districts in the running to be dropped to division 2 on last nights weak performance. Not much "ticker" shown by this group last night.

southern districts obviously missing their guards

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Districts in the running to be dropped to division 2 on last nights weak performance. Not much "ticker" shown by this group last night.
That would very much be to the detriment of the league. Tough unit at full strength.

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That would very much be to the detriment of the league. Tough unit at full strength.

Are any of the teams in Permier League running at full strength?
Spartans/SW/Logan/Brisbane aren't, who is?

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Are any of the teams in Permier League running at full strength?
Spartans/SW/Logan/Brisbane aren't, who is?
Nah. All mid-strength or Lite.

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Maroochydore wobbled home over Ipswich by 4. Ippy vastly different unit since grading.

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Logan smashed Districts up real bad.

Megan destroyed Tiana.

Logan outside shooting the best of any team in the league by far!

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Logan smashed Districts up real bad.

Megan destroyed Tiana.

Logan outside shooting the best of any team in the league by far!

Lets not make this a megan tiana thing. Yes logan did destroy sd but we all know who wins between megan and tiana.

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Megan destroyed Tiana.
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That should make the national team selectors more impressed with megan than they already arent.

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The comp is way more interesting for the moment.
Talking state teams after 2 games just opens the door for kids and their parents to start talking themselves up hoping Pam will somehow go with all the expert opinions she reads here.

Be tuff to choose the 1 and 2 spot with so many good players top and bottom age Tiana, Donnelly, Willy, Trinder, Alesha Myers, Lorna, Heal, Gajewski just to name a few. Who to choose experience?size? who plays well together, who can come off the bench and perform and who can play genuine defense get stops and rebound mmmm hate to be a selector.

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Be tuff to choose the 1 and 2 spot with so many good players top and bottom age Tiana, Donnelly, Willy, Trinder, Alesha Myers, Lorna, Heal, Gajewski just to name a few. Who to choose experience?size? who plays well together, who can come off the bench and perform and who can play genuine defense get stops and rebound mmmm hate to be a selector.
Yeh tough choices. Tiana is probly the only cert at the point. Probly look for 3 others who also have court vision and passing, have size and handles who can score from the perimeter and finish on the rim. One of them needs to be able to run the point in bursts also.
I'd probly go Tiana (1) Gajewski (1/2) and a couple of others with size, athleticism and handles who can finish on the rim, score from the perimeter and cause match up headaches for the opposition. Could be a gold medal year if they get this right.

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Yeh tough choices. Tiana is probly the only cert at the point. Probly look for 3 others who also have court vision and passing, have size and handles who can score from the perimeter and finish on the rim. One of them needs to be able to run the point in bursts also.
I'd probly go Tiana (1) Gajewski (1/2) and a couple of others with size, athleticism and handles who can finish on the rim, score from the perimeter and cause match up headaches for the opposition. Could be a gold medal year if they get this right.

I'm thinking cert would be Maddie W, Donnelly, Aleisha, Ash, Tiana...and I'm pretty sure Megan would be there.

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I'm thinking cert would be Maddie W, Donnelly, Aleisha, Ash, Tiana...and I'm pretty sure Megan would be there.

Hmmmm - 6 guards? And you've missed Kajewski, great guard and has some size... and which Ash, there are a couple in this squad that play a guard position? You haven't left much room for the rest of the team!!

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I'm thinking cert would be Maddie W, Donnelly, Aleisha, Ash, Tiana...and I'm pretty sure Megan would be there.
Six guards. How will that work?

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Hmmmm - 6 guards? And you've missed Kajewski, great guard and has some size... and which Ash, there are a couple in this squad that play a guard position? You haven't left much room for the rest of the team!!
Team? What team? Were talking about my kid making state and me leading the cheer squad again! Ive got appearances to uphold here mate! Stuff your stupid 'team' stuff. Whose this Kajewski kid ? Ok then...What would those dumb asses at the AIS know anyway?

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state team.

i reckon the only people you can be certain with are Mikaela donnelly, Tiana, Maddy Willy, Christina, and KP.
Goodluck to all the others.

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Team? What team? Were talking about my kid making state and me leading the cheer squad again! Ive got appearances to uphold here mate! Stuff your stupid 'team' stuff. Whose this Kajewski kid ? Ok then...What would those dumb asses at the AIS know anyway?

Ok smart a***, I didn't even mention my kid in here... it was a comment on the amount of guards that people seem to think are going to be selected in this so called 'team'. Forget I even asked the question...

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There has been a lot of threads about people moving associations, I can tell you that I will not encourage my child to stay loyal to the association that she is with after the rounds of Premier League. In my eyes shes all good to move association. If there are any teams that are in need of a good defensive player please let me know the association so that I can make some enquires. Thanks

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There has been a lot of threads about people moving associations, I can tell you that I will not encourage my child to stay loyal to the association that she is with after the rounds of Premier League. In my eyes shes all good to move association. If there are any teams that are in need of a good defensive player please let me know the association so that I can make some enquires. Thanks

What is the problem with the association she is currently at?

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There has been a lot of threads about people moving associations, I can tell you that I will not encourage my child to stay loyal to the association that she is with after the rounds of Premier League. In my eyes shes all good to move association. If there are any teams that are in need of a good defensive player please let me know the association so that I can make some enquires. Thanks

does play d thats y she is looking for new ass

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Logan smashed Districts up real bad.

Megan destroyed Tiana.

Logan outside shooting the best of any team in the league by far!

hahaha everyone knows tiana is a better player than Megan... she 'destroyed' her, let's be real here.

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So whats the pick of QUALITY bigs for state.

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Looks like some good games this weekend. Expect Logan to maintain their winning run and wouldnt like to be the team who plays Seahawks first up after their defeat last weekend. Expect BBI to establish their claims also. Maroochydore still adapting to top age basketball but can be stylish on their day. Expect the fast improving Northside to post a win or two also. Ipswich will upset someone this weekend with their tenacity and middle penetration. Should be interesting.

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Looks like some good games this weekend. Expect Logan to maintain their winning run and wouldnt like to be the team who plays Seahawks first up after their defeat last weekend. Expect BBI to establish their claims also. Maroochydore still adapting to top age basketball but can be stylish on their day. Expect the fast improving Northside to post a win or two also. Ipswich will upset someone this weekend with their tenacity and middle penetration. Should be interesting.

This is the weekend for Ipswich.

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So whats the pick of QUALITY bigs for state.

My pick would be - Christina, Phoebe Hinds, Stephanie? (injured), Molly, Kalarni, Yasmine, Ruby

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What's the predictions for Top 15 for State Team??
This weekend will probably give Coach her best indications. Can be a headache for club coaches when their players focus shifts from playing with their team to individual performances for selectors. The smart ones know Coach looks for those who can make the teammates they play with better by their presence.

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Is there anywhere at Boondall to video from? Scouting probly of little value as most teams go to new phase after Xmas break anyhow. Loong way to Classics. Shame its such a hurried affair in U/18s these days.

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Logan smashed Districts up real bad.

Megan destroyed Tiana.

Logan outside shooting the best of any team in the league by far!

Having known both girls for a number of years and watched them play and develop, there is no doubt both have developed as talented basketballers. However, as a young person who can inspire others and lead by example Tiarna's sportmanship and respect for other players is exemplary and it is time Megan took a leaf out of Tiarna's book. Tiarna is a credit to her family, association, queensland and who ever she may represent now and in the future. Go T!!!!!

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Having known both girls for a number of years and watched them play and develop, there is no doubt both have developed as talented basketballers. However, as a young person who can inspire others and lead by example Tiarna's sportmanship and respect for other players is exemplary and it is time Megan took a leaf out of Tiarna's book. Tiarna is a credit to her family, association, queensland and who ever she may represent now and in the future. Go T!!!!!

Well said. Tiarna is a sensational player, love watching her. Megan also a good player but the 2 girls sportsmanship attitutes are miles apart.

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Dont pay much attention to the personality politics but from observations of the weekend tournament, her basketball I.Q., skills and team leadership qualities makes Tiana pretty well the only bottom age player that should be a certainty for the state team.

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I agree with the above message judging from players I have seen

Tiana
Maddie Willey
Mikealla Donnelly
Jess from maroochydore
Ashley zandi
Christina sekona
Ruby mason

Then not sure on remaining three. Trinder needs to work on er attitude she hasn't made the team yet.

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I agree with the above message judging from players I have seen

Tiana
Maddie Willey
Mikealla Donnelly
Jess from maroochydore
Ashley zandi
Christina sekona
Ruby mason

Then not sure on remaining three. Trinder needs to work on er attitude she hasn't made the team yet.


Hmmm, agree on the Trinder quote, attitude there needs a huge makeover.

I would say:
Tiana - S.D
Mikaela - AIS
Maddie - S.W
Ash Z - R.B
Aleisha - Logan
Ash T - Logan
Molly - BBI
Steph - BBI (injury dependant)
Christina - S.W
Kassie - S.D

Would have included Kalani but heard on the weekend that she is going home to NZ. Shame.

Good luck to all the girls

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I agree with the above message judging from players I have seen

Tiana
Maddie Willey
Mikealla Donnelly
Jess from maroochydore
Ashley zandi
Christina sekona
Ruby mason

Then not sure on remaining three. Trinder needs to work on er attitude she hasn't made the team yet.
All good players but Zandi, Sekona, Mason. #13 from Logan, Donnelly, Myers and of course Tiana definately have the goods and at both ends of the floor.

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who were the standouts from the weekend?
both teams and players.

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Hmmm, agree on the Trinder quote, attitude there needs a huge makeover.

I would say:
Tiana - S.D
Mikaela - AIS
Maddie - S.W
Ash Z - R.B
Aleisha - Logan
Ash T - Logan
Molly - BBI
Steph - BBI (injury dependant)
Christina - S.W
Kassie - S.D

Would have included Kalani but heard on the weekend that she is going home to NZ. Shame.

Good luck to all the girls

What's a shame is that people walk around talking about things they obviously have no clue about. She isn't going home

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who were the standouts from the weekend?
both teams and players.
Logan continued to dominate. Just good luck they manage to get their Logan ref each game I suppose, especially against Seahawks in a close one. But Maroochydore only troubled them for 1 quarter and the other game wasnt much different. Myers and #13 the standouts for Logan.
Thought BBI were the standout improvers. Girls played cohesive 'ball with focus on the team winning rather than individuals trying to make the state team. They have momentum now and will return even stronger from the break.
Northside keep improving every game and will be a dangerous team by classics.
Maroochydore looked ordinary. Players competing for a share of the ball and shots. Real cohesion problem there.
SWM are tough because of Sekona and the strength of their role players. Willeys percentages will hurt them if she doesnt improve her shot selection also.
Ipswich continue to be close but not close enough. Could be better if Orbell could stay fit and they played their strong guard more.
Districts coming back to form. Tiana has developed her PG game markedly since last season. Still the best defensive player in the league, still can score at will from a variety of finishes or the perimeter but has learnt to create for other players even better than previously. Combination with her interiors especially #13 and a couple of others will put them right in the mix for finals and Classics.
Seahawks are definately the team most likely to win Classics. Girls are sharp at both ends, drilled and disciplined offensively. Always work for the best shot and have any number of players who can execute inside and out. Zandi, Mason, Heal the most noticeable but they go 10 deep.

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Logan continued to dominate. Just good luck they manage to get their Logan ref each game I suppose, especially against Seahawks in a close one. But Maroochydore only troubled them for 1 quarter and the other game wasnt much different. Myers and #13 the standouts for Logan.
Thought BBI were the standout improvers. Girls played cohesive 'ball with focus on the team winning rather than individuals trying to make the state team. They have momentum now and will return even stronger from the break.
Northside keep improving every game and will be a dangerous team by classics.
Maroochydore looked ordinary. Players competing for a share of the ball and shots. Real cohesion problem there.
SWM are tough because of Sekona and the strength of their role players. Willeys percentages will hurt them if she doesnt improve her shot selection also.
Ipswich continue to be close but not close enough. Could be better if Orbell could stay fit and they played their strong guard more.
Districts coming back to form. Tiana has developed her PG game markedly since last season. Still the best defensive player in the league, still can score at will from a variety of finishes or the perimeter but has learnt to create for other players even better than previously. Combination with her interiors especially #13 and a couple of others will put them right in the mix for finals and Classics.
Seahawks are definately the team most likely to win Classics. Girls are sharp at both ends, drilled and disciplined offensively. Always work for the best shot and have any number of players who can execute inside and out. Zandi, Mason, Heal the most noticeable but they go 10 deep.

Willie scored 30 on the "best defensive player in the league" and her team won the game against SD. Showed great leadership. Christina played on a dodgy ankle and reinjured it on the weekend. It will be a while before she is comfortable with the ankle.

Tiana clearly a talent & still a work a progress. Back to Form? 2 and 5, first two wins on weekend.

Maroochy trait has always been their ability to play together. Lot of bottom ages, beware late in season.

Seahawks looked well drilled at this point of the season ( same at grading)

Liked Northside with what they have got. Pheobe's play is solid and tough

Logan are team to beat. Myers has been outsatnding. With others contributing well.

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Willie scored 30 on the "best defensive player in the league" and her team won the game against SD. Showed great leadership.

Tiana clearly a talent & still a work a progress. Back to Form? 2 and 5, first two wins on weekend.


Fair point. 30 is impressive. Think the poster was trying to make the point that chasing numbers and shot selection/percentages as a PG could hurt that team if not addressed. (LOT of misses in the games I saw-just an observation) Kid is still better than the Logan or Maroochydore guards but.

Same point with Tiana. Looks like her time with the National program has enhanced her PG effectiveness to where she's not looking for numbers anymore and assuming organisation duties to get more players more looks. (Lot harder to defend a whole team than a standout scorer) Would still back her in a one on one contest against any player in this league but thats irrelevant for a PG. Again, just an observation.

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Logan continued to dominate. Just good luck they manage to get their Logan ref each game I suppose, especially against Seahawks in a close one. But Maroochydore only troubled them for 1 quarter and the other game wasnt much different. Myers and #13 the standouts for Logan.
Thought BBI were the standout improvers. Girls played cohesive 'ball with focus on the team winning rather than individuals trying to make the state team. They have momentum now and will return even stronger from the break.
Northside keep improving every game and will be a dangerous team by classics.
Maroochydore looked ordinary. Players competing for a share of the ball and shots. Real cohesion problem there.
SWM are tough because of Sekona and the strength of their role players. Willeys percentages will hurt them if she doesnt improve her shot selection also.
Ipswich continue to be close but not close enough. Could be better if Orbell could stay fit and they played their strong guard more.
Districts coming back to form. Tiana has developed her PG game markedly since last season. Still the best defensive player in the league, still can score at will from a variety of finishes or the perimeter but has learnt to create for other players even better than previously. Combination with her interiors especially #13 and a couple of others will put them right in the mix for finals and Classics.
Seahawks are definately the team most likely to win Classics. Girls are sharp at both ends, drilled and disciplined offensively. Always work for the best shot and have any number of players who can execute inside and out. Zandi, Mason, Heal the most noticeable but they go 10 deep.

What Ipswich games were you watching? Orbell (Chelsea) and two others weren't even at the carnival. They had a team of 7 only.

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Cairns dominated the TON on the weekend. Throw them in the mix for State Title contention.

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People need to get facts right as Ipswich had seven players for the whole carnival. Interesting to see they still managed to win the game against Northside. Ipswich look like they will only take nine to classics. I still think they will be one of the bottom two, but will give some teams a task.

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What Ipswich games were you watching? Orbell (Chelsea) and two others weren't even at the carnival. They had a team of 7 only.
Thats the point being made. If Chelsea can stay uninjured Ipswich can compete.

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Thats the point being made. If Chelsea can stay uninjured Ipswich can compete.

I think Orbell needs to bring some mongrel into her game. With Orbell and the other three bottom ages that have played with Orbell for the past few years in rep and school sport they will be a force (pardon the pun) Coach just needs to adjust game plan and use those four players on the court becauseits easier for Orbell when she has the players that know when and how to feed her.

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Hmmm, agree on the Trinder quote, attitude there needs a huge makeover.

I would say:
Tiana - S.D
Mikaela - AIS
Maddie - S.W
Ash Z - R.B
Aleisha - Logan
Ash T - Logan
Molly - BBI
Steph - BBI (injury dependant)
Christina - S.W
Kassie - S.D

Would have included Kalani but heard on the weekend that she is going home to NZ. Shame.

Good luck to all the girls

Kalani is staying.Whos place does she take steph or kassie

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Kalani is staying.Whos place does she take steph or kassie
I wouldnt bother unless there's an injury and even then...
Sure she's a nice kid but she got smashed by the NSW and Vic bigs at top age 16s and havent seen any improvements to indicate she'd be able to compete as a bottom ager in 18s.

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I wouldnt bother unless there's an injury and even then...
Sure she's a nice kid but she got smashed by the NSW and Vic bigs at top age 16s and havent seen any improvements to indicate she'd be able to compete as a bottom ager in 18s. Trure

But who has smash her this season???

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what a bs statement..."just good luck they manage to get their Logan ref each game"

Seahawks coach lost that game for his girls by conducting himself in such an unprofessional and unsportmanslike manner, the entire carnival. He thinks that intimidating and harrassing referees is the way to behave. Epi was the ref for this game. Epi refs at BBI, Carina, and Logan every week. Epi, is one of the fairest and most rule knowledgable refs in QLD. He puts on his ref shirt and he refs by rules and what he sees NOT by who the teams are on the court.
Shane Heal needs to learn to stop swearing and ridiculing the referees, and even the teams he plays and coach his team.

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Logan continued to dominate. Just good luck they manage to get their Logan ref each game I suppose, especially against Seahawks in a close one. But Maroochydore only troubled them for 1 quarter and the other game wasnt much different. Myers and #13 the standouts for Logan.
Thought BBI were the standout improvers. Girls played cohesive 'ball with focus on the team winning rather than individuals trying to make the state team. They have momentum now and will return even stronger from the break.
Northside keep improving every game and will be a dangerous team by classics.
Maroochydore looked ordinary. Players competing for a share of the ball and shots. Real cohesion problem there.
SWM are tough because of Sekona and the strength of their role players. Willeys percentages will hurt them if she doesnt improve her shot selection also.
Ipswich continue to be close but not close enough. Could be better if Orbell could stay fit and they played their strong guard more.
Districts coming back to form. Tiana has developed her PG game markedly since last season. Still the best defensive player in the league, still can score at will from a variety of finishes or the perimeter but has learnt to create for other players even better than previously. Combination with her interiors especially #13 and a couple of others will put them right in the mix for finals and Classics.
Seahawks are definately the team most likely to win Classics. Girls are sharp at both ends, drilled and disciplined offensively. Always work for the best shot and have any number of players who can execute inside and out. Zandi, Mason, Heal the most noticeable but they go 10 deep.

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what a bs statement..."just good luck they manage to get their Logan ref each game"

Seahawks coach lost that game for his girls by conducting himself in such an unprofessional and unsportmanslike manner, the entire carnival. He thinks that intimidating and harrassing referees is the way to behave. Epi was the ref for this game. Epi refs at BBI, Carina, and Logan every week. Epi, is one of the fairest and most rule knowledgable refs in QLD. He puts on his ref shirt and he refs by rules and what he sees NOT by who the teams are on the court.
Shane Heal needs to learn to stop swearing and ridiculing the referees, and even the teams he plays and coach his team.

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Touche Moana....

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what a bs statement..."just good luck they manage to get their Logan ref each game"

Seahawks coach lost that game for his girls by conducting himself in such an unprofessional and unsportmanslike manner, the entire carnival. He thinks that intimidating and harrassing referees is the way to behave. Epi was the ref for this game. Epi refs at BBI, Carina, and Logan every week. Epi, is one of the fairest and most rule knowledgable refs in QLD. He puts on his ref shirt and he refs by rules and what he sees NOT by who the teams are on the court.
Shane Heal needs to learn to stop swearing and ridiculing the referees, and even the teams he plays and coach his team.

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Epi's knowledge and experience of the actual game of Basketball outside his little rule book from a coaching and development standpoint doesnt entitle him to make personal value judgements on an Australian Boomers Captain, dual Olympian, NBL Hall of Famer and current Boomers assistant coach standards of professionalism and sportsmanship.

And nor does yours Moana.

Some more facts:
Too many other coaches have had too many experiences with Epi's personal "interpretations" of the "rules" over too many years in this game to give your comments any credibility.
Shane Heal, after a distinguished International career as a player and now a Coach has just joined the long line of Queensland coaches who have experienced Epi's "interpretations" and "lapses of vision" for many years.
It pisses me off too when coaching against him and some refs grovel at his every word but people with Shane's ability, willing to put back to junior basketball as a volunteer coach come along once in a generation. Would hate to see them turned away from that by a bloke whose ego is so fragile he doesnt like being told when he's wrong. Would probly be fair to say Basketball needs Shane Heal's expertise more than it needs Epi and Moana Lilinos. Instead of railing against Shane's high achievements and status in the game it might be better to utilise the knowledge and advice he's offering and help him raise the standard of our Juniors?

I can tell you first hand the bloke doesnt NEED to coach juniors. His own kids futures are assured for College or whatever and he certainly doesnt need the "fame"!! If people could recognise the golden opportunity to lift our game he provides and stop trying to make a name for themselves at his expense Basketball in Queensland would be better served. Same for other people with top level experience like Polly and Jade Abele who are trying to make basketball better and get caned by insecure referees when they try to give correct advice. (Though have to say Polly gets a pretty good deal from Epi and others already especially at Hibiscus-sorry mate. LOL)

p.s. congrats on signing your name to it. You must be on the side that's winning and sure to make your kid and their team even more popular with Epi. But the rest of us cant afford to lest our teams be discriminated against even more.

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Epi's knowledge and experience of the actual game of Basketball outside his little rule book from a coaching and development standpoint doesnt entitle him to make personal value judgements on an Australian Boomers Captain, dual Olympian, NBL Hall of Famer and current Boomers assistant coach standards of professionalism and sportsmanship.

And nor does yours Moana.

Some more facts:
Too many other coaches have had too many experiences with Epi's personal "interpretations" of the "rules" over too many years in this game to give your comments any credibility.
Shane Heal, after a distinguished International career as a player and now a Coach has just joined the long line of Queensland coaches who have experienced Epi's "interpretations" and "lapses of vision" for many years.
It pisses me off too when coaching against him and some refs grovel at his every word but people with Shane's ability, willing to put back to junior basketball as a volunteer coach come along once in a generation. Would hate to see them turned away from that by a bloke whose ego is so fragile he doesnt like being told when he's wrong. Would probly be fair to say Basketball needs Shane Heal's expertise more than it needs Epi and Moana Lilinos. Instead of railing against Shane's high achievements and status in the game it might be better to utilise the knowledge and advice he's offering and help him raise the standard of our Juniors?

I can tell you first hand the bloke doesnt NEED to coach juniors. His own kids futures are assured for College or whatever and he certainly doesnt need the "fame"!! If people could recognise the golden opportunity to lift our game he provides and stop trying to make a name for themselves at his expense Basketball in Queensland would be better served. Same for other people with top level experience like Polly and Jade Abele who are trying to make basketball better and get caned by insecure referees when they try to give correct advice. (Though have to say Polly gets a pretty good deal from Epi and others already especially at Hibiscus-sorry mate. LOL)

p.s. congrats on signing your name to it. You must be on the side that's winning and sure to make your kid and their team even more popular with Epi. But the rest of us cant afford to lest our teams be discriminated against even more.

The only people who stand up for Shane Heal are, Shane Heal and any parent of a daughter he coaches...
why is it that every other person whether it be parent, player, coach and manager or even an onlooker thinks otherwise?

that is a lot of people....

oh and P.S. Maybe Moana has enough courage to let people know what they think without bagging out refs with no name attached......

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everyone needs to just chill out on the harshness.
ever tried being positive about things?

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The only people who stand up for Shane Heal are, Shane Heal and any parent of a daughter he coaches...
why is it that every other person whether it be parent, player, coach and manager or even an onlooker thinks otherwise?
that is a lot of people....

Well it's true there are a lot of single minded judgemental ignorant people in this world who are bitter and resentful of the achievements of others, so you might be half right.
There's also a huge number of people (outside your little world of course) in Australia and Internationally who admire Shane's personal achievements, forthright personality and what he's giving back to his sport.
But your entitled to your opinion and the thousands of basketball people around the world are entitled to theirs. Just dont be portraying your boy Epi as some authority on basketball, professionalism and sportsmanship that a person of Heal's standing should take lessons from. Your knowledge is skewed and severly limited and you can think what you like just keep it to yourself. There are many many people who feel just as strongly, only the exact opposite to you in the basketball world.

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Your knowledge is skewed and severly limited and you can think what you like just keep it to yourself. There are many many people who feel just as strongly, only the exact opposite to you in the basketball world.

Only you can make a reply to anything that remotely resembles criticism of Heal and everyone else should just be humbled to read your comments and say nothing....you are very well trained, but I suppose you get lots of practice.

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Seahawks coach lost that game for his girls by conducting himself in such an unprofessional and unsportmanslike manner, the entire carnival. He thinks that intimidating and harrassing referees is the way to behave. Shane Heal needs to learn to stop swearing and ridiculing the referees, and even the teams he plays and coach his team.

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Yep... Only 'remotely resembles" criticism...so why be restrained? Rip into him and say what you really feel.

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Reading between the lines it appears there is a general concensus between both camps, Heal is a street fighter.......with superior credentials!

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Reading between the lines it appears there is a general concensus between both camps, Heal is a street fighter.......with superior credentials!

who is bound by the same rules and codes of conduct as Joe Blow who coaches u10's miniball , regardless of his credentials.

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Reading between the lines it appears there is a general concensus between both camps, Heal is a street fighter.......with superior credentials!

Gee and I thought he was just a damn fine basketball coach looking for a fair go for his junior girls team?!

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who is bound by the same rules and codes of conduct as Joe Blow who coaches u10's miniball , regardless of his credentials.
Same as the code of conduct and fair play rules that referees are bound by but arent accountable for when it suits them not to.

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State squad has been put on the BQ website. No real surprises. A real solid group of girls. Won't single anyone out as don't want to be accused of being their Mum or Dad. Will only say that I don't envy the coach in reducing this squad to 10. Tough job, but congratulations to all who made it.

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I like the strength, size, speed, athleticisim and skill of Donnelly, Alicia, Willie, Ash T, Tiana, Kristine and Kalani.

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I like the strength, size, speed, athleticisim and skill of Donnelly, Alicia, Willie, Ash T, Tiana, Kristine and Kalani.
Agree. Dont agree with all these but since these are the only squad members this is the best of them.
Tiana Mangakhia
Mikhaela Donnelly
Ashleigh Zandi
Madelyn Willey
Aleisha Myers
Ruby Mayson
Christina Sekona
Ashley Taia
Steph Bairstow
Kalani Purcell

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Agree. Dont agree with all these but since these are the only squad members this is the best of them.
Tiana Mangakhia
Mikhaela Donnelly
Ashleigh Zandi
Madelyn Willey
Aleisha Myers
Ruby Mayson
Christina Sekona
Ashley Taia
Steph Bairstow
Kalani Purcell

same, not a bad selection

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I like the strength, size, speed, athleticisim and skill of Donnelly, Alicia, Willie, Ash T, Tiana, Kristine and Kalani.

clearly a JPC fan?

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Agree. Dont agree with all these but since these are the only squad members this is the best of them.
Tiana Mangakhia
Mikhaela Donnelly
Ashleigh Zandi
Madelyn Willey
Aleisha Myers
Ruby Mayson
Christina Sekona
Ashley Taia
Steph Bairstow
Kalani Purcell

Kassie? give them some size?

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clearly a JPC fan?

4 out of the 10 girls there are JPC girls.. but nice try!

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Kassie? give them some size?

Agree, not sure who to leave out though. Good team selection. Also, wouldn't surprise me if the Bris coach will go with Molly and Lorna

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same, not a bad selection theres a couple of weak defenders in that list but guess if thats the best

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Agree, not sure who to leave out though. Good team selection. Also, wouldn't surprise me if the Bris coach will go with Molly and Lorna

So she should too. Shepard is tuff and has had a season of QBL under her belt and Molly is a mobile big who has national experience. They should easily be included in this team.

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So she should too. Shepard is tuff and has had a season of QBL under her belt and Molly is a mobile big who has national experience. They should easily be included in this team.
Probably everyone has a relative or personal favourite that "should easily" make the team in their eyes, and it may well happen. But if your looking purely objectively and trying to select 10 girls who are the best at their positions, give the team some sort of balance and have a chance at being competitive at National level, those ten named earlier is as good as you are going to get. Hope they win it.

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4 out of the 10 girls there are JPC girls.. but nice try!
Is that how Sarah Ambrose can get picked after playing 10 minutes of basketball in 18 months?

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theres a couple of weak defenders in that list but guess if thats the best
Doesnt matter apparently. Pammy told the girls at trials "I want scorers! You dont win games with defence." Godluva'!

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Is that how Sarah Ambrose can get picked after playing 10 minutes of basketball in 18 months?

You might want to get your facts right. Clearly you have not seen many seahawks games because Sarah Ambrose has been playing for about four weeks, so not sure where ten minutes comes into it. She gets a decent amount of court time and can be of good assisance to the team. Not sure where you have been but it hasn't been 18 months so if you want to post stuff you need to make sure your posts are correct. I would say after coming back from two knee surgeries and where she is today is a big achievement. I would like to see how many other players could go through that and still be committed. John Paul College has nothing to do with the state team, the selectors choose players whom they think will get the job done, no school is involved, these players get selected on their talents.

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1. Mikhaela/Megan or Aleisha
2. Maddy/Tiana
3. Ash Z/Ash T or Kalani
4. Steph/Kalani or Molly
5. Christina/Kassie

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Good luck to Mikhaela, Ashley, Kalani n Maddy in their nationals campaign in Bendigo next week bring home the gold girls u have trained hard all year you deserve it

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Who will win Classics next year? Easy.
Whoever Mikaela Donaldson plays for!
If you saw her running the point against Logan in WNBL this afternoon youd understand the reasoning.

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Who will win Classics next year? Easy.
Whoever Mikaela Donaldson plays for!
If you saw her running the point against Logan in WNBL this afternoon youd understand the reasoning.

Do you mean Mikhaela Donnelly? I'd imagine she will still be at the institute.

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Do you mean Mikhaela Donnelly? I'd imagine she will still be at the institute.
Apparently Phil will release them to play their home state championships if no National squad committments and if they want to go. Be nice for her home assn. to win an 18s title with her. Where does she come from?

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Apparently Phil will release them to play their home state championships if no National squad committments and if they want to go. Be nice for her home assn. to win an 18s title with her. Where does she come from?

Logan thunder

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Good luck to Mikhaela, Ashley, Kalani n Maddy in their nationals campaign in Bendigo next week bring home the gold girls u have trained hard all year you deserve it Gold medal baby! Wohoo congrats to all 'national champions'

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Gold medal baby! Wohoo congrats to all 'national champions'

Congrats to all girls - Ash, Jacqui, Jodie, Kalani, Maddie A, Maddie W, Mikhaela, Peri, Shawnie and Tahlia.

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Doesnt matter apparently. Pammy told the girls at trials "I want scorers! You dont win games with defence." Godluva'!
If you care to take a look at the Qld South U16 girls for and against stats from Nationals this year you may note they had the worst defensive record of all teams! Though they came second with the best offensive record clearly being the worst defensive team when it mattered the grand final! Just goes to show how much you know defense does and can win games. Out of the two bottom agers that should make the state team, one of them is one of the worst defenders and worst cherry picker.

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Just goes to show how much you know defense does and can win games. .
Was the state coach said it so must be right.

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Was the state coach said it so must be right.
Well thank goodness 3/4s of the 18s state squad are great all rounders, I bet they wont be the ones who choke, sulk, cry and crack under pressure and bring it on the court.

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I didn't realise this was an Under 18 state team forum.....like it is the most important thing in the world

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I didn't realise this was an Under 18 state team forum.....like it is the most important thing in the world
haha well said. to some people its the only thing in basketball.

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The last 2 posts were absolutely dumb

Read any Bendoes U16s, 18s, 20s, boys or girls forum and every rep season the posts are always the same, 'who is playing where/defected/come back to which association' 'which team is winning/will win premier league' 'who made the state squad' 'who will make the state team.

So its not the most important thing in the world but it sure beats reading the last 2 dull negative posts.

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1. Mikhaela/Megan or Aleisha
2. Maddy/Tiana
3. Ash Z/Ash T or Kalani
4. Steph/Kalani or Molly
5. Christina/Kassie

Just sayin and just one opinion -

Despite lack of depth and struggling to field a team U/18 Logan Girls are undefeated so far for a very good reason. The 3 consistent performers that must have outplayed their opposition positions "almost" every week to stay undefeated are all proven at National level and should translate into 3 state spots + Mikhaela makes 4 from Logan (if no national committments). Thats if form, stats & previous experience count for anything in the subjective world of rep ball. I know 4 players from one assoc sounds like a lot, but they are all quality. Lorna form Bris is also very solid, quick & tough.

Sorry I don't know names, but the guard from Spartans in the National team is tougher than Spartacus and the Big from Southwest (Spartans last year) that was in U/16 state this year has a great future as well. These 7 are super tough and all very experienced for their age with a good balance of brains, vision, shooting, D & speed. Add some more size with the remaining 3 spots and qld will have a super tough, experienced and very mobile team difficult to stay with up and down the floor. Just sayin. Just one opinion. merry xmas!

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Just sayin and just one opinion -

Despite lack of depth and struggling to field a team U/18 Logan Girls are undefeated so far for a very good reason. The 3 consistent performers that must have outplayed their opposition positions "almost" every week to stay undefeated are all proven at National level and should translate into 3 state spots + Mikhaela makes 4 from Logan (if no national committments). Thats if form, stats & previous experience count for anything in the subjective world of rep ball. I know 4 players from one assoc sounds like a lot, but they are all quality. Lorna form Bris is also very solid, quick & tough.

Sorry I don't know names, but the guard from Spartans in the National team is tougher than Spartacus and the Big from Southwest (Spartans last year) that was in U/16 state this year has a great future as well. These 7 are super tough and all very experienced for their age with a good balance of brains, vision, shooting, D & speed. Add some more size with the remaining 3 spots and qld will have a super tough, experienced and very mobile team difficult to stay with up and down the floor. Just sayin. Just one opinion. merry xmas!
Valid opinion and right on most counts. Not sure about all the Logan members being 'proven' at National level but. Anyhow taking all the Logan hysteria out of things (and they are a bloody good team make no mistake-anybody who can run flex all game evry game and still succeed says a lot about the individual skills and competitive ability of the players). Still against another well drilled team with the physicality to return the aggression, and no Eppi refereeing it would be nice to think someone will beat them this season. If Donnely gets back for Classics the only interest is in silver and bronze.
From independant scouting and observations team should look like this:
guards
Donnely
Willey
Tiana
Heal
then any order and mix of positions
Myers
Zandee
Mason
Christina (SWM)
Ash Tia
Kalani

If they leave out Heal and put Myers back as the starting SG then maybe addin the BBI 'big' though dont see her as being competitive against genuine bigs at National level.

just another opinion but who knows how the state 'selectors' look at it?

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Valid opinion and right on most counts. Not sure about all the Logan members being 'proven' at National level but. Anyhow taking all the Logan hysteria out of things (and they are a bloody good team make no mistake-anybody who can run flex all game evry game and still succeed says a lot about the individual skills and competitive ability of the players). Still against another well drilled team with the physicality to return the aggression, and no Eppi refereeing it would be nice to think someone will beat them this season. If Donnely gets back for Classics the only interest is in silver and bronze.
From independant scouting and observations team should look like this:
guards
Donnely
Willey
Tiana
Heal
then any order and mix of positions
Myers
Zandee
Mason

Christina (SWM)
Ash Tia
Kalani

If they leave out Heal and put Myers back as the starting SG then maybe addin the BBI 'big' though dont see her as being competitive against genuine bigs at National level.

just another opinion but who knows how the state 'selectors' look at it?

Nice reply! Trinder & Shephard in for Willey & Heal. I am sure Logan will be beaten at some time for sure, but well done for efforts so far.

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Nice reply! Trinder & Shephard in for Willey & Heal. I am sure Logan will be beaten at some time for sure, but well done for efforts so far.
Yeh Logan going great guns in the local league and a credit to them. Sorry, Trinder not big enough or good enough shooter to displace Willey/Heal or Myers in SG position and not in the same point guard league as Donaldson and Tiana. Havent seen anything from Sheppard to suggest she ready to play at the next level yet or displace any of the performing forwards either. Just an objective analysis from watching competition performances.

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Yeh Logan going great guns in the local league and a credit to them. Sorry, Trinder not big enough or good enough shooter to displace Willey/Heal or Myers in SG position and not in the same point guard league as Donaldson and Tiana. Havent seen anything from Sheppard to suggest she ready to play at the next level yet or displace any of the performing forwards either. Just an objective analysis from watching competition performances.

Shephard is extremely athletic, quick and tough with good skill even at the QBL level, so if you put her with elite company she is definately high quality. There are already enough scorers in the most likely team to be selected so Trinder would fit nicely at the point throwing the most assists and having the best vision in the league. Tiana should be in the team for sure as she is a great young player, but remember that Logan cruised in the last 10 minutes to defeat Spartans convincingly last time around and Trinder ran the show exceptinally well, so saying she is not in Tianas league is a long stretch... I think Trinder and Shephard would be a better fit in terms of speed, vision, roles and chemistry than Willey and Heal, but the only opinion that matters is the Head Coach as we know.

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Shephard is extremely athletic, quick and tough with good skill even at the QBL level, so if you put her with elite company she is definately high quality. There are already enough scorers in the most likely team to be selected so Trinder would fit nicely at the point throwing the most assists and having the best vision in the league. Tiana should be in the team for sure as she is a great young player, but remember that Logan cruised in the last 10 minutes to defeat Spartans convincingly last time around and Trinder ran the show exceptinally well, so saying she is not in Tianas league is a long stretch... I think Trinder and Shephard would be a better fit in terms of speed, vision, roles and chemistry than Willey and Heal, but the only opinion that matters is the Head Coach as we know.

Tiana - tough, good D, good scorer but plays more like a 2-man. Trinder - good vision, excellent assists and plays like a point. Room for both and play well together.

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Some interesting observations. The one about speed vision roles and chemistry is a cracker. I want some of what your smokin. But heres another one....Logan beat South West by 12 and Maddie W and Christina did not play. Lets hope everyone is fit for the next time they play. These 2 teams have played some great games over the years and the next one wont be any different. As for state.........argue about the guards as much as you like but no bigs no win. Christina is great but at national level she is a 4 man at best (and a good one) Kalani will make a great 3 man at national level maybe a 4. What other bigs are around. Need a genuine 5 man

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Yeh Logan going great guns in the local league and a credit to them. Sorry, Trinder not big enough or good enough shooter to displace Willey/Heal or Myers in SG position and not in the same point guard league as Donaldson and Tiana. Havent seen anything from Sheppard to suggest she ready to play at the next level yet or displace any of the performing forwards either. Just an objective analysis from watching competition performances.

While you were watching did you catch their names at all? Who is Donaldson??

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Shephard is extremely athletic, quick and tough with good skill even at the QBL level, so if you put her with elite company she is definately high quality. There are already enough scorers in the most likely team to be selected so Trinder would fit nicely at the point throwing the most assists and having the best vision in the league. Tiana should be in the team for sure as she is a great young player, but remember that Logan cruised in the last 10 minutes to defeat Spartans convincingly last time around and Trinder ran the show exceptinally well, so saying she is not in Tianas league is a long stretch... I think Trinder and Shephard would be a better fit in terms of speed, vision, roles and chemistry than Willey and Heal, but the only opinion that matters is the Head Coach as we know.

It would seem that the Head Coach would infact disagree with you as Willey has been picked in every state team she has been eligible for in the last three years.

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Some interesting observations. The one about speed vision roles and chemistry is a cracker. I want some of what your smokin. But heres another one....Logan beat South West by 12 and Maddie W and Christina did not play. Lets hope everyone is fit for the next time they play. These 2 teams have played some great games over the years and the next one wont be any different. As for state.........argue about the guards as much as you like but no bigs no win. Christina is great but at national level she is a 4 man at best (and a good one) Kalani will make a great 3 man at national level maybe a 4. What other bigs are around. Need a genuine 5 man

Christina is the genuine big; hasn't got the skills to play outside. Outside of her the only real 5 is kassie Donnelly. Then you got Bairstow coming back in with kalani and Molly and others competing for a 4 spot. As for other comments saying you wouldn't have Maddy Willey... Is that a joke?

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It would seem that the Head Coach would infact disagree with you as Willey has been picked in every state team she has been eligible for in the last three years.

And rightly so!!

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It would seem that the Head Coach would infact disagree with you as Willey has been picked in every state team she has been eligible for in the last three years.
Hard to make a comment on that one without giving the false impression that Willey isnt a genuine selection for this team. Of the guards, she is an excellent scorer from the 2 spot, with the ability to defend bigger players and who can swing into the point when needed. Along with Donnely and Tiana as the 2 pgs and Ash Heal or Aleisha Myers as the other SGs she should be in this team.
The part about kids making every state team since they were u/14s is a bone of contention around basketball as everyone knows that the kid who was good at 14s may not be the best in 16s and 18s and son on. Few opinions that kids (and there parents) get in good with the establishment and therefore get picked every year regardless of who might be better or not.
Maddy Willey is NOT one of these as she is better than Gajewski and marginally better due her ability to swing to pg than Ash Heal...at this moment in time.
Be interesting to see if the 'coaches favourite/protege' theory plays out again with the selection of the guards for this side.

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Some interesting observations. The one about speed vision roles and chemistry is a cracker. I want some of what your smokin. But heres another one....Logan beat South West by 12 and Maddie W and Christina did not play. Lets hope everyone is fit for the next time they play. These 2 teams have played some great games over the years and the next one wont be any different. As for state.........argue about the guards as much as you like but no bigs no win. Christina is great but at national level she is a 4 man at best (and a good one) Kalani will make a great 3 man at national level maybe a 4. What other bigs are around. Need a genuine 5 man

I agree no genuine centers in Qld in this age group even up north, you would have to go with the tallest top age girl which is Steph Bairstow but I havent seen her play a game this rep season. She was also chosen for Met East U18s back in April this year and didnt end up playing in that either due to injury.....but she would be the logical choice given fully fit and injury free.

I agree Kristina is a 4 man at best, these select players selected for Qas and Australian camps I havent seen much of an improvent in their skills only in the size of their muscles, if you think I am wrong please tell me a Qas squad member apart from Mikky Don and Tiana who have improved in skill or attitude from there time in the Qas programme.

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I agree no genuine centers in Qld in this age group even up north, you would have to go with the tallest top age girl which is Steph Bairstow but I havent seen her play a game this rep season. She was also chosen for Met East U18s back in April this year and didnt end up playing in that either due to injury.....but she would be the logical choice given fully fit and injury free.

I agree Kristina is a 4 man at best, these select players selected for Qas and Australian camps I havent seen much of an improvent in their skills only in the size of their muscles, if you think I am wrong please tell me a Qas squad member apart from Mikky Don and Tiana who have improved in skill or attitude from there time in the Qas programme.


Spot on and it shows how abysmal the QAS program is at present under it's curent leadership.

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Spot on and it shows how abysmal the QAS program is at present under it's curent leadership.

Seems to me that the current program leadership (which has had the scope of the role changed enormously in the past couple of years) has seen not only exceptional numbers of Qlders attending National Development Camps (Tippett, Payne, Allen, Haughton, Sekona, Donnelly, Purcell, Trinder, Tiana (sorry if I've left somebody out)) with 6 of them playing for Australia at various levels, but also saw three Qld teams collect two silvers and a bronze at National Championships last year, firmly establishing itself as the number 2 girls program in the country.

So what results would you like to have seen achieved that would have made the program successful?

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Seems to me that the current program leadership (which has had the scope of the role changed enormously in the past couple of years) has seen not only exceptional numbers of Qlders attending National Development Camps (Tippett, Payne, Allen, Haughton, Sekona, Donnelly, Purcell, Trinder, Tiana (sorry if I've left somebody out)) with 6 of them playing for Australia at various levels, but also saw three Qld teams collect two silvers and a bronze at National Championships last year, firmly establishing itself as the number 2 girls program in the country.

So what results would you like to have seen achieved that would have made the program successful?

Sekona and Purcell born in NZ, Purcell been here a couple of years not sure if permanently. A few kiwsi or of kiwi descent in the state squad these 2, plus Zandi born in NZ, Ash Taia and Tiana of maori descent wicked if they all made the team.

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Seems to me that the current program leadership (which has had the scope of the role changed enormously in the past couple of years) has seen not only exceptional numbers of Qlders attending National Development Camps (Tippett, Payne, Allen, Haughton, Sekona, Donnelly, Purcell, Trinder, Tiana (sorry if I've left somebody out)) with 6 of them playing for Australia at various levels, but also saw three Qld teams collect two silvers and a bronze at National Championships last year, firmly establishing itself as the number 2 girls program in the country.

So what results would you like to have seen achieved that would have made the program successful?

Please don't suggest that the management of the QAS program had anything to do with the success of these athelets and state teams. The program itself has plenty of merit. The management of the program IS NOT one of them. Evidence of the programs failure lays in the high calibre of coaching staff in Queensland who choose not to be a part of the program.

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actually at state they measured heights and stephanie bairstow was about 4th or 5th next to christina. hope her knee is improving but honestly i dont think shell be able to compete at National level just out of injury...

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Please don't suggest that the management of the QAS program had anything to do with the success of these athelets and state teams. The program itself has plenty of merit. The management of the program IS NOT one of them. Evidence of the programs failure lays in the high calibre of coaching staff in Queensland who choose not to be a part of the program.

So - to be clear, the management of the program are responsible for the failure to develop these athletes. However, they cannot be given responsibility for the achievements of the State program and the athletes therein?

Exactly which elite coaches in Qld choose not to be a part of the program?

I'm sorry, I'm a bear of very little brain adn I just don't understand the logic there!

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So - to be clear, the management of the program are responsible for the failure to develop these athletes. However, they cannot be given responsibility for the achievements of the State program and the athletes therein?

Exactly which elite coaches in Qld choose not to be a part of the program?

I'm sorry, I'm a bear of very little brain adn I just don't understand the logic there!
Plenty of bears with very little brain hanging around Murrays little rort these days.
Qld kids are receiving excellent coaching and development at their home associations by the number of very good coaches who choose to have no part of the NITCP sham.

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actually at state they measured heights and stephanie bairstow was about 4th or 5th next to christina. hope her knee is improving but honestly i dont think shell be able to compete at National level just out of injury...

Steph trained the majority of the last QAS camp and is due to play the first game in January so I wouldn't rule her out of the selection just yet...

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Plenty of bears with very little brain hanging around Murrays little rort these days.
Qld kids are receiving excellent coaching and development at their home associations by the number of very good coaches who choose to have no part of the NITCP sham.

OK - so let me take a different approach. Instead of listening to you tear down somebody else's efforts, who are the top three development coaches at local Associations who are doing the terrific work with these players?

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Here's a team......

Tiana - Spartens
Aleisha - Logan
Megan - Logan
Maddie W - South West
Mikahlia D - AIS
Ashleigh Z - Runaway Bay
Christina - South West
Phoebe - Northside
Big kid Spartens (don't know her name - is she left in the squad?)
Molly (Bris) or Stephanie (Bris)....toss of a coin......softness vs. injuries???

would like to go to war with this group....

Shadows - blonde chunky guard Runaway Bay and Molly/Stephanie

This is of course if you are going on form from Premier League...and Donnelly at AIS must be picked.

No legitimate 5's in this age group.....you are kidding.....the kid from Northside is averaging a double/double every game, played minutes in QBL last season, and is improving every week....and she is bottom age.....and Christina is a 5...and is also legitimate

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Here's a team......

Tiana - Spartens
Aleisha - Logan
Megan - Logan
Maddie W - South West
Mikahlia D - AIS
Ashleigh Z - Runaway Bay
Christina - South West
Phoebe - Northside
Big kid Spartens (don't know her name - is she left in the squad?)
Molly (Bris) or Stephanie (Bris)....toss of a coin......softness vs. injuries???

would like to go to war with this group....

Shadows - blonde chunky guard Runaway Bay and Molly/Stephanie

This is of course if you are going on form from Premier League...and Donnelly at AIS must be picked.

No legitimate 5's in this age group.....you are kidding.....the kid from Northside is averaging a double/double every game, played minutes in QBL last season, and is improving every week....and she is bottom age.....and Christina is a 5...and is also legitimate
Leave the guard with no left hand no shot and a bad attitude out and I think you nailed it by including the raw big from northside. Too much of "who I can lay claim to developing", "who was good 2 years ago" anf "whose perents are going to give me trouble", comes into st5ate selections rhese days. So Janelle finishes with silver when every othern coach in the tourny thought she had the Gold team talent wise.....and Pammy will probably get a medal this year.
Funny what happens when someone asks "why didnt we win it"rather than "how did we do so well to finish so high?"
HUGE difference in thinking and coaching acumen.

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OK - so let me take a different approach. Instead of listening to you tear down somebody else's efforts, who are the top three development coaches at local Associations who are doing the terrific work with these players?
Or another way again...which of those people hanging close off Murrays favours and gaining credibility by lurking around the NITCP program have actually achieved anything as competition/tournament/development, coaches and are bringing any credibility to the program by their personal abilities and achievements rather than using the NITCP name and profile on their (skinny) coaching CVs?

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Mmmnn...interesting angles on what actually happens in "the system."

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So - despite yet again no answers, just accusations......

The last NITCP camp included the following names 'hanging around' padding their thin CV's:

Brondello - WNBA Head Coach, former international player, WNBL player.
Palmer - former NBL Head Coach, current Australian Universities Head Coach, former NBL player.
Heal - former NBA player, former Boomer, current Boomer Asssistant coach.
Bairstow - former WNBL Assistant Coach. National Junior Coaching panel.

Sounds like a pretty 'credible' group to me.

Now - over to you to tear down that group.

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Steph trained the majority of the last QAS camp and is due to play the first game in January so I wouldn't rule her out of the selection just yet...

lets see how brisbane goes with steph bit of a ball hog

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So - despite yet again no answers, just accusations......

The last NITCP camp included the following names 'hanging around' padding their thin CV's:

Brondello - WNBA Head Coach, former international player, WNBL player.
Palmer - former NBL Head Coach, current Australian Universities Head Coach, former NBL player.
Heal - former NBA player, former Boomer, current Boomer Asssistant coach.
Bairstow - former WNBL Assistant Coach. National Junior Coaching panel.

Sounds like a pretty 'credible' group to me.

Now - over to you to tear down that group.
No dramas with that group. Very credible very good and well worth the money they are paid for the sessions they come in for. (Why arent they being paid for their services and expertise more often though?)
Apparently BA are about to show just what they think of the current management of the NITCP in the New Year. Hopefully the credible coaches you have named up top will assume much bigger roles in the future direction and management of the program.
Not before time.

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Having read the last few pages some people sadly so not get it. Basketball is sport and many girls are out there giving their best... working hard to improve ... trying to overcome various adversities etc...under the tutelage of dedicated and caring coaches at all levels.... club, assn, NITP... etc. Why do parents and other players hide behind a computer to denegrate or add a negative comment? Coaches and young women are out there giving their best and enjoying the sport.... let's applaud their effort and thank all coaches for the opportunity they create for these young women. Happy New Year to all!!! See you at the courts!!!

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Having read the last few pages some people sadly so not get it. Basketball is sport and many girls are out there giving their best... working hard to improve ... trying to overcome various adversities etc...under the tutelage of dedicated and caring coaches at all levels.... club, assn, NITP... etc. Why do parents and other players hide behind a computer to denegrate or add a negative comment? Coaches and young women are out there giving their best and enjoying the sport.... let's applaud their effort and thank all coaches for the opportunity they create for these young women. Happy New Year to all!!! See you at the courts!!!
Sorry. It's you that doesnt 'get it'.
Lots of players out there doing their best lots of dedicated coaches out their volunteering their services for the betterment of the game. Lots of positive stuff happening at Association level across the state. What seems to be a growing point of contention is a supposed 'elite' program that absorbs a fair amount of the meagre funds gifted to the sport and which benefits only a select few of the very many highly talented athletes in this state.
The largest component of the budget pays a salary for a person who lives with his young wife in America. Bit strange in itself, but when you consider theres no budget for NITP services or coaching done in the North (unless someone volunteers) it raises serious questions about the efficacy integrity and equality of the NITCP. This is just one current issue for you to consider and wont bother trying to outline the countless issues and inconsistencies with this program since 2004. Take it as fact that the current management model and practices are NOT what was intended when this program was initiated. Also take it as fact that nobdy is hiding behind a computer to voice their objections as Murray and Graham Burns have been approached many times seeking answers to complaints directly but without response.
Thankfully BA have made their own enquiries more recently.
Lot of knowledgeable and experienced people out there willing to continue to contribute in the same positive way they have for years as soon as the current fiasco is amended and the program returns to its former credibility.
Happy and progressive New Year.

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Sorry. It's you that doesnt 'get it'.
Lots of players out there doing their best lots of dedicated coaches out their volunteering their services for the betterment of the game. Lots of positive stuff happening at Association level across the state. What seems to be a growing point of contention is a supposed 'elite' program that absorbs a fair amount of the meagre funds gifted to the sport and which benefits only a select few of the very many highly talented athletes in this state.
The largest component of the budget pays a salary for a person who lives with his young wife in America. Bit strange in itself, but when you consider theres no budget for NITP services or coaching done in the North (unless someone volunteers) it raises serious questions about the efficacy integrity and equality of the NITCP. This is just one current issue for you to consider and wont bother trying to outline the countless issues and inconsistencies with this program since 2004. Take it as fact that the current management model and practices are NOT what was intended when this program was initiated. Also take it as fact that nobdy is hiding behind a computer to voice their objections as Murray and Graham Burns have been approached many times seeking answers to complaints directly but without response.
Thankfully BA have made their own enquiries more recently.
Lot of knowledgeable and experienced people out there willing to continue to contribute in the same positive way they have for years as soon as the current fiasco is amended and the program returns to its former credibility.
Happy and progressive New Year.

Thank you for the incite you having given to the current program. Whispers are heard from many corners, but few with intimate knowledge are prepared or able to speak up.

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Thank you for the "incite" you having given to the current program. Whispers are heard from many corners, but few with intimate knowledge are prepared or able to speak up.

Pun intended or a Freudian slip?

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Good luck and best wishes to Jess Gajewski and Soraya Page when they attend the Australian Camp.

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Good luck and best wishes to Jess Gajewski and Soraya Page when they attend the Australian Camp.
As well as Tiana, Alicia and Keely Froling. All the very best girls.

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Thinking of all of our basketball friends in Toowoomba and hoping you are all safe.

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suggestions for the final team?

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suggestions for the final team?

Yes - Go hard do Queensland proud!

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here is my team
mic donnelly
maddy willey
tiana
aleisha
ash taia
ash zandi
ruby mason
kalani
chistina
molly windsor

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have had enough of the my pick rubbish, leave it to the selectors. i guess then you'll be able to bag them for not agreeing with you.

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Yes - Go hard do Queensland proud!

Talking about doing us proud how good was it Spartans under 17 girls team winning the Pacific Slam against Victoria on the week-end.

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here is my team
mic donnelly
maddy willey
tiana
aleisha
ash taia
ash zandi
ruby mason
kalani
chistina
molly windsor
Bingo! None of my players in there but you've nailed my hypothetical team in one.
I couldnt decide on the last big (probably havent seen enough of them so far this season) between Molly, Bairstow (if absolutely 100% fit) and the solid girl from districts with aubern coloured hair (#13 I think?) Thinking with her size and willingness to use it she may be a future QBL/WNBL prospect with the right work. Shame the squad was cut so early because everybody who saw Yasmin Miller's performances for the Clip's senior womens team over the Aust Day carnival was asking how come she didnt make State. Was the match winner in the crossover against a Brisbane GBL team with some quality BBI ex state junior and current QBL players in it. Anyhow, good team, accurate assessment of the players from the squad....now lets see how many we got "wrong"..
hahahaha

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have had enough of the my pick rubbish, leave it to the selectors. i guess then you'll be able to bag them for not agreeing with you.

sorry did we leave your daughter out

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sorry did we leave your daughter out
Bit harsh actually. There's some very good players in this year who wont make it but are still very very good. None of my favourites in that line up either but whoever wrote that list has objectivity and a pretty keen eye for team structure, balance and interchangability. Bet you an icy pole some of the ones who dont make it this year will still spring up next year in 18's or 20's or AIS or the National junior team.

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sorry did we leave your daughter out

don't have a daughter.
you probably left your daughter in, that's the problem.

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Bit harsh actually. There's some very good players in this year who wont make it but are still very very good. None of my favourites in that line up either but whoever wrote that list has objectivity and a pretty keen eye for team structure, balance and interchangability. Bet you an icy pole some of the ones who dont make it this year will still spring up next year in 18's or 20's or AIS or the National junior team.

didnt mean to upset anyone and no i dont have a daughter in the squad its just my own opinion totally agree with this person though jess heals and trinder all excellent players but have older girls who can do the same job bairstow and ambrose too many injuries not enough match fitness and donnelly from spartans and lorna from bbi unlucky not to find a spot dont no much about phoebe but we will all know next week good luck to everyone

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don't have a daughter.
you probably left your daughter in, that's the problem.

why do you care then if u dont have a daughter get off this forum

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didnt mean to upset anyone and no i dont have a daughter in the squad its just my own opinion totally agree with this person though jess heals and trinder all excellent players but have older girls who can do the same job bairstow and ambrose too many injuries not enough match fitness and donnelly from spartans and lorna from bbi unlucky not to find a spot dont no much about phoebe but we will all know next week good luck to everyone

Older, bigger, stronger, more experienced at national level and better simple

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don't have a daughter.
you probably left your daughter in, that's the problem.

same can be said here

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That's not what the 18 boys coach thinks, 4 top agers 2 of them small and 6 bottom agers. Lets hope the girls top agers have a better chance and let the bottom agers have their turn next year.

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Older, bigger, stronger, more experienced at national level and better simple

Well the 18 boy's team doesn't look like that.
4 top agers,2 smalls,6 bottom agers.
Let's hope the top age girls get a look in and let the bottom agers have their turn next year when they will be older,stronger and way more experienced to handle the girls down south.

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That's not what the 18 boys coach thinks,
Thats an oxymoron in itself...

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Well the 18 boy's team doesn't look like that.
4 top agers,2 smalls,6 bottom agers.
Let's hope the top age girls get a look in and let the bottom agers have their turn next year when they will be older,stronger and way more experienced to handle the girls down south.

yes good comment

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Unfortunate that this topic has degenerated into a slanging match.
Fact is that this is a very strong year for U/18 girls with many many players, top AND bottom age with the ability to compete at National level and who have legitimate claims to make the team.
Who cares what the U/18 boys coach thinks? Different age/gender group and circumstances entirely besides the salient fact that Pam Hamilton Smith has forgotten more about coaching this age group at National level than he will ever know.
Sad but true, there is only 10 to the team and the team someone 'flagged' a couple of posts back is to the thinking of most objective coaches and knowledgeable people the best of the best U/18 group we've seen in a while. Sure, some of our daughters and/or players may not be in that group (remembering that the team isnt officially picked yet) but that doesnt detract from the quality and ability of the very many good players who wont be going away.
Much as I'd like to see certain players in there I have to acknowledge that the team listed is the best most balanced and versatile team Qld can field and so long as its selected on ability and form, barring politics, parental influences and personal favourites, you will probably find that is the final team or at least it should be.
mic donnelly
maddy willey
tiana
aleisha
ash taia
ash zandi
ruby mason
kalani
chistina
molly windsor

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Unfortunate that this topic has degenerated into a slanging match.
Fact is that this is a very strong year for U/18 girls with many many players, top AND bottom age with the ability to compete at National level and who have legitimate claims to make the team.
Who cares what the U/18 boys coach thinks? Different age/gender group and circumstances entirely besides the salient fact that Pam Hamilton Smith has forgotten more about coaching this age group at National level than he will ever know.
Sad but true, there is only 10 to the team and the team someone 'flagged' a couple of posts back is to the thinking of most objective coaches and knowledgeable people the best of the best U/18 group we've seen in a while. Sure, some of our daughters and/or players may not be in that group (remembering that the team isnt officially picked yet) but that doesnt detract from the quality and ability of the very many good players who wont be going away.
Much as I'd like to see certain players in there I have to acknowledge that the team listed is the best most balanced and versatile team Qld can field and so long as its selected on ability and form, barring politics, parental influences and personal favourites, you will probably find that is the final team or at least it should be.
mic donnelly
maddy willey
tiana
aleisha
ash taia
ash zandi
ruby mason
kalani
chistina
molly windsor

well said great attitude

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I see results from last nite Marrochy beat SW thats a surprise and Spartans beat Seahawks also a surprise Bbi and logans wins no surprise.

maybe Jess from Maroochy is a genuine contender for state selection

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Watched Logan play last nite they have absolutley no depth off their bench but smashed wizards woulda made 100 but bench played whole last quarter, Taia, Trinder, n Myers a class above the rest all contenders for state

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Watched Logan play last nite they have absolutley no depth off their bench but smashed wizards woulda made 100 but bench played whole last quarter, Taia, Trinder, n Myers a class above the rest all contenders for state
2 out of 3 aint bad.

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did kalani play for sw on the weekend

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did kalani play for sw on the weekend

No, shes left the BQ competition and gone back home apperently

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apperently
haha thets clessic bro

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sori cuz shes back

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Who cares what the U/18 boys coach thinks? Different age/gender group and circumstances entirely besides the salient fact that Pam Hamilton Smith has forgotten more about coaching this age group at National level than he will ever know.



Maybe should start remembering....pity she's forgotten so much...

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Who cares what the U/18 boys coach thinks? Different age/gender group and circumstances entirely besides the salient fact that Pam Hamilton Smith has forgotten more about coaching this age group at National level than he will ever know.



Maybe should start remembering....pity she's forgotten so much...
Yeh for sure. Silver medal last year probably made her forget the previous medals and made her forget that she really should be taking the example of a kid from victoria and listening to the bendoes crowd.