Champion Schools 2010

[Mr bEn]

16-19 September 2010

Who are the schools to look out for this year? State High and JPC are the traditiona strong performers, will someone else stand up this year?

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16-19 September 2010

Who are the schools to look out for this year? State High and JPC are the traditiona strong performers, will someone else stand up this year?

I suspect churchie and BBC to both finish above state high. JPC will be the team to beat. Do they have anybody of note other than Wallis and Carroll?

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how is creek looking?
who do they have from last year?

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What other schools normally compete in this? Is it just the 1sts?

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how is creek looking?
who do they have from last year?

1. BSS
2. JPC
3. MC

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I suspect churchie and BBC to both finish above state high. JPC will be the team to beat. Do they have anybody of note other than Wallis and Carroll?

JPC only beat Redeemer by 7 on the weekend. Does this mean they will struggle at schools? Or has Redeemer recruited? Will State High Threepeat?

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JPC only beat Redeemer by 7 on the weekend. Does this mean they will struggle at schools? Or has Redeemer recruited? Will State High Threepeat?

No. They were lucky to win their second. That shit never happens twice in a row.

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JPC only beat Redeemer by 7 on the weekend. Does this mean they will struggle at schools? Or has Redeemer recruited? Will State High Threepeat?

JPC only beat redeemer by 7 becoz hendo made the boys play half pace on an outdoor court against a bunch of athletes who were going full out. Hat off to Redeemer though, they did play well, and should look to enter div 1 this year.

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No. They were lucky to win their second. That shit never happens twice in a row.

you cant call a winner out of this group as state high has shown the past two years in a row when JPC has choked. What has been their main problem in my opinion? gelling as a team. However this year though, the teams preparation has been a lot stronger and they are playing more as a team. Jim Wallis and Brendan Carrol are really stepping up as leaders, and the rest of the players are working well together.

But that as it may, JPC has lost all reputation they may have once had. State High will come out strong as the crowd favourite having taken out the past two years. BBC, Mountain creek and Churchie will also be looking for a win. Its going to be a real battle this year and for all the critisizm the JPC team may come under, it remains this year that no ammount of trash talk will win them the finals and the only way that they will win (as any team will win) is if they knuckle down and earn every inch through how they play the game

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1. BSS
2. JPC
3. MC

Watch out for the gold coast teams this year.

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It wil b out of BSHS, JPC, Churchie, BBC and Mountain Creek

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It wil b out of BSHS, JPC, Churchie, BBC and Mountain Creek

who does jps churchie bbc and mc have?

i know bshs have a few decent players:
nick chia
agon hafuzi
cade towers
and the fob twins provide some size

churchie have garrett, but as of late he has fallen away a bit

bbc haven't been playing well in gps

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who does jps churchie bbc and mc have?

i know bshs have a few decent players:
nick chia
agon hafuzi
cade towers
and the fob twins provide some size

churchie have garrett, but as of late he has fallen away a bit

bbc haven't been playing well in gps

BBC has the bergens, strybos, cob wilson, jake stalder, jared eustace, this tall athletic kid nico or something and thats about it. I wouldnt say they aren't performing well. A couple of unlucky losses. Only losing by tiny margins against the best teams in the comp. They should do well at state champs.

I reckon
1.JPC
2. BSHS
3. BBC
4. Churchie
5. MC
6. IGS

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Jpc have a great team after beating BBC and churchie in the trial practice matches.
there deffinatly a team to consider in the finals.

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where is it being held this year ?????

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BBC has the bergens, strybos, cob wilson, jake stalder, jared eustace, this tall athletic kid nico or something and thats about it. I wouldnt say they aren't performing well. A couple of unlucky losses. Only losing by tiny margins against the best teams in the comp. They should do well at state champs.

I reckon
1.JPC
2. BSHS
3. BBC
4. Churchie
5. MC
6. IGS

What about Nudgee where do u rate them I reckon they could make top 5 this year.

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What about Nudgee where do u rate them I reckon they could make top 5 this year.

I reckon Nudgee will go pretty well. They have started the season well and are super fit and play their WHOLE bench unlike some other teams that have been discussed on this site since last Saturday.
Teamwork wins over superstars any day.

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What about Nudgee where do u rate them I reckon they could make top 5 this year.

I reckon after ipswich at 7 maybe.

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BBC has the bergens, strybos, cob wilson, jake stalder, jared eustace, this tall athletic kid nico or something and thats about it. I wouldnt say they aren't performing well. A couple of unlucky losses. Only losing by tiny margins against the best teams in the comp. They should do well at state champs.

I reckon
1.JPC
2. BSHS
3. BBC
4. Churchie
5. MC
6. IGS

There just might be a couple of gold coast teams that have something to say about this list of 6

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Hows mountain creek looking?
i hear they have alot of injuries throughout their team

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1. State High
2. JPC
3. Mountain Creek
4. Churchie
5. Palm Beach
6. Iggy Park (townsville)
7. BBC
8/9/10. Ipswich/Cairns/ Helensvale

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1. State High
2. JPC
3. Mountain Creek
4. Churchie
5. Palm Beach
6. Iggy Park (townsville)
7. BBC
8/9/10. Ipswich/Cairns/ Helensvale

1. JPC/State High/BBC
2. Churchie
3. MC/IGS
4. IP/PBC

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churchie aren't entering the competition this year

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not from mountain creek but look at their team...they are gonna go to work

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Top 10

1. JPC
2. MC
3.BSHS
4.St Patrick’s College (Mackay)
5.BBC
6.Palm Beach Currumbin
7.Cairns s.h.s
8. Varsity
9.IGS
10.Nudgee

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Top 10

1. JPC
2. MC
3.BSHS
4.St Patrick’s College (Mackay)
5.BBC
6.Palm Beach Currumbin
7.Cairns s.h.s
8. Varsity
9.IGS
10.Nudgee

Who have JPC got didnt all the good ones leave last year

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Who have JPC got didnt all the good ones leave last year

They still have Jim Wallace, Jarred Coleman, Richard Morris and Sam Wallace from last year. Not to mention Brendan Carroll aswell.

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Top 10

1. JPC
2. MC
3.BSHS
4.St Patrick’s College (Mackay)
5.BBC
6.Palm Beach Currumbin
7.Cairns s.h.s
8. Varsity
9.IGS
10.Nudgee

not possible, as BBC, St Pats, Varsity and IGS are all in the same pool

might have to re-assess bud

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not possible, as BBC, St Pats, Varsity and IGS are all in the same pool

might have to re-assess bud

I'm Tipping st James to be top 4 contender they will surprise every team I saw them play the other day god they have the best point guard who can jump and shoot like crazy they are very tall and lanky better keep an eye on them

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I'm Tipping st James to be top 4 contender they will surprise every team I saw them play the other day god they have the best point guard who can jump and shoot like crazy they are very tall and lanky better keep an eye on them

Who is the coach? Enough said, they will struggle

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Who is the coach? Enough said, they will struggle

St James? Isnt that the team that won bronze in div 2 last year by 1 point against a very young and undersized div 2 JPC team?

I agree they will struggle, especially against Creek and Hillcrest. That being said, they are a good team and probably deserve their div 1 seed, but to say top 4.......... i dont think they have the depth and experience to take on a championship

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St James? Isnt that the team that won bronze in div 2 last year by 1 point against a very young and undersized div 2 JPC team?

I agree they will struggle, especially against Creek and Hillcrest. That being said, they are a good team and probably deserve their div 1 seed, but to say top 4.......... i dont think they have the depth and experience to take on a championship

hillcrest?

Helensvale!

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Is there any good teams in div 2?

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Is there any good teams in div 2?

no...

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There just might be a couple of gold coast teams that have something to say about this list of 6

Who has finished in the 8? I just heard Hillcrest did, great news for them...in saying that I am surprised no one really brought them up as a top 8 side, They would cetrainly have to be one of the top schools on the Gold Coast.

Any other Gold Coast sides make it in the top 8 or perform well?

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is Karina Dawson still playing for JPC girls...she must be like 35 by now??? doing year 23.....ha

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Who has finished in the 8? I just heard Hillcrest did, great news for them...in saying that I am surprised no one really brought them up as a top 8 side, They would cetrainly have to be one of the top schools on the Gold Coast.

Any other Gold Coast sides make it in the top 8 or perform well?

Top 8
BBC
Carins
PBC
Mnt Creek
Hillcrest
JPC
ST Pats
BSHS

SEMIS (could have picked this before the thing started)

BBC V Mtn Creek
MDore by 30 plus

JPC V BSHS
BSHS won easily

FINAL

M Creek V State High

JPC blow it again, but hey Hendo will already have a wildcard entry to D1 for Nationals lined up anyway so it really don't matter.

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Top 8
BBC
Carins
PBC
Mnt Creek
Hillcrest
JPC
ST Pats
BSHS

SEMIS (could have picked this before the thing started)

BBC V Mtn Creek
MDore by 30 plus

JPC V BSHS
BSHS won easily

FINAL

M Creek V State High

JPC blow it again, but hey Hendo will already have a wildcard entry to D1 for Nationals lined up anyway so it really don't matter.

What will happen to JPC next year when they finish even lower? Will they still get a free ticket to D1 Nationals?

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Top 8
BBC
Carins
PBC
Mnt Creek
Hillcrest
JPC
ST Pats
BSHS

SEMIS (could have picked this before the thing started)

BBC V Mtn Creek
MDore by 30 plus

JPC V BSHS
BSHS won easily

FINAL

M Creek V State High

JPC blow it again, but hey Hendo will already have a wildcard entry to D1 for Nationals lined up anyway so it really don't matter.

i checked on the champ schools website, bshs only won by about 15, thats not too easy

although its not entirely comparable, when bbc and bshs played, bshs only won by a few in overtime

do you think bshs are in trouble against mt creek tomorrow?

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is Karina Dawson still playing for JPC girls...she must be like 35 by now??? doing year 23.....ha

In saying that how many boys in jpc turning 18 this year are school still and are doing yr 12 twice???
Would make a difference having kids older resitting yr 12. Any other school who have the same??

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In saying that how many boys in jpc turning 18 this year are school still and are doing yr 12 twice???

I wouldn't say many at all. Anyone who does the last two senior years over three years loses some eligibility re us college aspirations. So why would anyone serious about their game bother? :)

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In saying that how many boys in jpc turning 18 this year are school still and are doing yr 12 twice???
Would make a difference having kids older resitting yr 12. Any other school who have the same??

2 x doing yr 12 twice:
Ric Morris & Jarrod Coleman

Next yr: Nil

Next yr they will have 4 x rep players, which will probably be:
3 x PL players & 1 x SC

My predicition for today is State High to win & my predicition is for State High to win = 4 years in a row.

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2 x doing yr 12 twice:
Ric Morris & Jarrod Coleman

Next yr: Nil

Next yr they will have 4 x rep players, which will probably be:
3 x PL players & 1 x SC

My predicition for today is State High to win & my predicition is for State High to win = 4 years in a row.

They wont beat mountain creek this year and they won't beat BBC next year. You forgot Jim Wallis as well. He is doing it over 2 years

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16-19 September 2010

Who are the schools to look out for this year? State High and JPC are the traditiona strong performers, will someone else stand up this year?

Ben who are boys team and girls team who look good

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They wont beat mountain creek this year and they won't beat BBC next year. You forgot Jim Wallis as well. He is doing it over 2 years

Jpc have 4 doing senior over 2 years in this team, and all it got was their parents an extra year of fees and more disappoitment. Changes need to be made at this school, they are the ulitmate under avchievers. Hendo has these kids playing year around in the BBI comp and baasically controls their bball. With this unmatched preperation he still can't win a championship!! They throw sholorships out at heaps of kids and still nothing.

4 second year seniors at JPC
Jim Wallace
sam Wallace
Morris
Coleman

BBC will have 3 next year and are heading down the same path as JPC. Sholorships being thrown around, kids encouraged to do senior over 3 years, making the kids play club year around with their handpicked inferior coaches

Mountain Creek will win today and win big (10 plus) I reckon.

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Jpc have 4 doing senior over 2 years in this team, and all it got was their parents an extra year of fees and more disappoitment. Changes need to be made at this school, they are the ulitmate under avchievers. Hendo has these kids playing year around in the BBI comp and baasically controls their bball. With this unmatched preperation he still can't win a championship!! They throw sholorships out at heaps of kids and still nothing.

4 second year seniors at JPC
Jim Wallace
sam Wallace
Morris
Coleman

BBC will have 3 next year and are heading down the same path as JPC. Sholorships being thrown around, kids encouraged to do senior over 3 years, making the kids play club year around with their handpicked inferior coaches

Mountain Creek will win today and win big (10 plus) I reckon.

It is the kids and the parents that can choose to do senior over 2 years I am sure it is not Hendo saying unless you do it you cannot come and play for JPC. What I find surprising is that JPC has been one of the best performing schools over the last 10 plus years and people bag them. Sure and using your words they 'choked again' but still top 4 again I think that is pretty good. not sure if their is another school in Qld that has had that much success for that long. Townsville SHS had a good run for a while but that is now gone, BSHS have done pretty well over the last few years but not the last 10. And for the record I don't go to JPC I go to a GPS school and wish we could have that much success.

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It is the kids and the parents that can choose to do senior over 2 years I am sure it is not Hendo saying unless you do it you cannot come and play for JPC. What I find surprising is that JPC has been one of the best performing schools over the last 10 plus years and people bag them. Sure and using your words they 'choked again' but still top 4 again I think that is pretty good. not sure if their is another school in Qld that has had that much success for that long. Townsville SHS had a good run for a while but that is now gone, BSHS have done pretty well over the last few years but not the last 10. And for the record I don't go to JPC I go to a GPS school and wish we could have that much success.

First off i never used the word "choke" you did, never said that.

The money they spend on their boy's program surpasses all others. If coming in the top 4 at the champion schools of Queensland is deemed sucessful, then yes they are a big sucess. I just said I find that they consistently have the most talent, clearly the best preperation and rarely win the state championship.

I can also assure you that I know as FACT that schools encourage some boys on sholorship to do senior over three years. This was at a GPS school too, prehaps yours??

For mine JPC UNDERACHIEVE, if you call that choking so be it.

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First off i never used the word "choke" you did, never said that.

The money they spend on their boy's program surpasses all others. If coming in the top 4 at the champion schools of Queensland is deemed sucessful, then yes they are a big sucess. I just said I find that they consistently have the most talent, clearly the best preperation and rarely win the state championship.

I can also assure you that I know as FACT that schools encourage some boys on sholorship to do senior over three years. This was at a GPS school too, prehaps yours??

For mine JPC UNDERACHIEVE, if you call that choking so be it.

they are perrenial underachievers. their program instills in the players the belief they are superior, but when it comes down to difficult games, they don't know what to do, so they fail.

bshs play 8 gps games a year and no club, yet they still have better team bonding so that they achieve better

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they are perrenial underachievers. their program instills in the players the belief they are superior, but when it comes down to difficult games, they don't know what to do, so they fail.

bshs play 8 gps games a year and no club, yet they still have better team bonding so that they achieve better

agreed, is down to team bond.
Many wouldn't debate that state high is a less individually talented team than some others but they still seem to find a means of winning. By playing together when a player gets hot it hypes up others and gives them a lift.

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who won ?

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Mountain Creek

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online stats majorly wrong? defo are for bbc game

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they are perrenial underachievers. their program instills in the players the belief they are superior, but when it comes down to difficult games, they don't know what to do, so they fail.

bshs play 8 gps games a year and no club, yet they still have better team bonding so that they achieve better

coaching would play a big part in that i would say

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they are perrenial underachievers. their program instills in the players the belief they are superior, but when it comes down to difficult games, they don't know what to do, so they fail.

bshs play 8 gps games a year and no club, yet they still have better team bonding so that they achieve better

Is it true JPC don't offer sports Scholarships just the horizon program ? and is it fair kids older than 17 (because of the horizon) play against school kids of course they will be stronger there 18 there classed as adults

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Div 2 final was intense. Southern Cross looked in control, but a gutsy St Columbas team fought back. Cross win by 2. Good game.

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Is it true JPC don't offer sports Scholarships just the horizon program ? and is it fair kids older than 17 (because of the horizon) play against school kids of course they will be stronger there 18 there classed as adults

I'm thinking that if you did the stats on average ages in teams, JPC wouldn't be much different to MC or BHS.

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Nice win by JPC Women with a good hard game at the end. Mountain Creek Men congratulation also, well deserved.

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question....... Why is everyone hating on jpc for playing with 18 year olds? Last time i checked, dont churchie and bbc do the same? Maybe not this year but I heard the Bergen twins were comming back next year, making bbc the underdogs or the "team to beat." but regardless it shouldnt matter how old you are. There has to come a time when an age difference of a year doesnt matter. Senior school basketball is probably the ideal place. But anyways congrats to Seth and the Creek boys, you guys played hard all tournament.

Moving on.... Anyone care to comment on next year?

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Hating on JPC is just a classic example of Australia's finest tradition - Tall Poppy Syndrome.
As JPC slide (there are no sport scholarships - unless you are a Rugby Union player :-) and BSHS or BBC continue to rise I am pretty sure people will move their hate to them & there was already evidence of that during the boys' final on the weekend with substantial crowd support for Mountain Creek (with only BSHS parents & friends cheering for BSHS).

Considering the top age player exodus from Mountain Creek JPC, BSHS & BBC will more than likely be the three dominant teams for the next few years with all three teams containing exciting young players including Nick Chia, Steve Fogarty & Cade Towers (among others at BSHS), Roger (and Junior) Morris, Dylan Desmarchelier & Matt Denman (among others at JPC) and Jarrod Eustace & Luke Pittle (among others at BBC). JPC should see the return of Matt Wook & Sam Wallace & the Bergen twins will be back at BBC. So while BSHS looks the most likely, you should not rule out JPC & BBC in the years to come.

Then there's the Gold Coast teams which look to be getting much stronger with Hillcrest, Helensvale & PBC looking like they will also challenge in the years to come. So while 2010 may be the end of an era for a lot of teams there is certainly some good ballers coming through the ranks to replace those that are leaving.

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Hating on JPC is just a classic example of Australia's finest tradition - Tall Poppy Syndrome.
As JPC slide (there are no sport scholarships - unless you are a Rugby Union player :-) and BSHS or BBC continue to rise I am pretty sure people will move their hate to them & there was already evidence of that during the boys' final on the weekend with substantial crowd support for Mountain Creek (with only BSHS parents & friends cheering for BSHS).

Considering the top age player exodus from Mountain Creek JPC, BSHS & BBC will more than likely be the three dominant teams for the next few years with all three teams containing exciting young players including Nick Chia, Steve Fogarty & Cade Towers (among others at BSHS), Roger (and Junior) Morris, Dylan Desmarchelier & Matt Denman (among others at JPC) and Jarrod Eustace & Luke Pittle (among others at BBC). JPC should see the return of Matt Wook & Sam Wallace & the Bergen twins will be back at BBC. So while BSHS looks the most likely, you should not rule out JPC & BBC in the years to come.

Then there's the Gold Coast teams which look to be getting much stronger with Hillcrest, Helensvale & PBC looking like they will also challenge in the years to come. So while 2010 may be the end of an era for a lot of teams there is certainly some good ballers coming through the ranks to replace those that are leaving.

Love to have Nich Chia next year but he is not doing year 12 twice.

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you all Obviously dont no nothing about JPC if you can say that. keep your stupid comments to yourself

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No. They were lucky to win their second. That shit never happens twice in a row.

#21 from the ipswich school that has jason ralph, what is his name?

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Is it true JPC don't offer sports Scholarships just the horizon program ? and is it fair kids older than 17 (because of the horizon) play against school kids of course they will be stronger there 18 there classed as adults

JPC offer half scholarships for girls basketball & boys rugby. They stopped offering half scholarships for boys basketball when the new principal came in. There are still some boys left on half scholarships for boys basketball. Anyone doing year 12 over 2 years is automatically red shirted their 1st year of college ball, that is if they chose to go to college.

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Mountain Creek boys have won three state titles this year alone, Classics, Regionals and champion schools. Add to that the three classics before this year and an amazing record for some of those guys. Question. can they top off the perfect year with the big one? How will they go at Nationals?
Will they represent QLD well and what are their chances of bringing the title back to QLD

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JPC offer half scholarships for girls basketball & boys rugby. They stopped offering half scholarships for boys basketball when the new principal came in. There are still some boys left on half scholarships for boys basketball. Anyone doing year 12 over 2 years is automatically red shirted their 1st year of college ball, that is if they chose to go to college.

This is not correct, no one is automatically redshirted. A student athlete normally has 5 years to complete a 4 year sholorship. A player who does senior over 2 years now has only 4 years to complete their sholorship. This is a general rule and every international sholorship holder is individualy judged on it's own merit. Technically this is the rule, you do year 12 over 2 years you basicially lose a year, making some payers less attractive to US schools.

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This is not correct, no one is automatically redshirted. A student athlete normally has 5 years to complete a 4 year sholorship. A player who does senior over 2 years now has only 4 years to complete their sholorship. This is a general rule and every international sholorship holder is individualy judged on it's own merit. Technically this is the rule, you do year 12 over 2 years you basicially lose a year, making some payers less attractive to US schools.

You shouldn't listen to hearsay and contact NCAA Clearing House as I have.

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Mountain Creek boys have won three state titles this year alone, Classics, Regionals and champion schools. Add to that the three classics before this year and an amazing record for some of those guys. Question. can they top off the perfect year with the big one? How will they go at Nationals?
Will they represent QLD well and what are their chances of bringing the title back to QLD

yes they can like any team there they have a chance but to beat the top vic schools stacked with reps etc it isnt likely. May finally meat their match Chance - 10%

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#21 from the ipswich school that has jason ralph, what is his name?

who cares

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You shouldn't listen to hearsay and contact NCAA Clearing House as I have.

Ha ha ha you got the wrong clearing house mate no one is made to redshirt. It is exactly like i said, you do senior over 2 years you got 4 years eligibilty left, not 5. you may appeal for special consideration and each interantional student athlete is judged on its merit. You said they would be made to red shirt their first year, that is not correct. Maybe you need to call again and ask the question, cause your advise is incorrect.

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I spoke with Colin Donovan on the weekend, he is the Guy that gets players to collage from the Australia and is very powerfull.

He explained to me to be elligable for the Collage system you have 4 years to complete grades 9-12 so that means no repeating any grades.

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I spoke with Colin Donovan on the weekend, he is the Guy that gets players to collage from the Australia and is very powerfull.

He explained to me to be elligable for the Collage system you have 4 years to complete grades 9-12 so that means no repeating any grades.

Derr I think you all need to relise it depends when your birthday is. The US education calender is Sept to Aug not Jan to Dec like ours, so if you birthday is after Sept 1 you can have the extra year as long as you haven't already repeated preschool because you were young in your year level then....

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yes they can like any team there they have a chance but to beat the top vic schools stacked with reps etc it isnt likely. May finally meat their match Chance - 10%

It would be tough because the creek boys are 16 and 17 playing against 18 and 19 year olds

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Derr I think you all need to relise it depends when your birthday is. The US education calender is Sept to Aug not Jan to Dec like ours, so if you birthday is after Sept 1 you can have the extra year as long as you haven't already repeated preschool because you were young in your year level then....\\

Wrong again

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It would be tough because the creek boys are 16 and 17 playing against 18 and 19 year olds

IT IS THE YEAR OF THE CREEK. YES 2 BOYS 16 THE REST 17 THEY KNOW HOW TO WIN AND PLAY AND THEY ARE COACHED BY A TOP OUTFIT.QLD 80%

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next years allschools state team should be pretty exciting.
Chia and cade from state hi,
bergens and eustace from bbi,
wallace and wook from jpc,
And jamoen from creek.


Be a strong team going into nationals. I reckon they could have a chance at winning in 2011

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Nick Chia finishes year 12 this year

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so nickys not there next year, wb Ian Burns?

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next years allschools state team should be pretty exciting.
Chia and cade from state hi,
bergens and eustace from bbi,
wallace and wook from jpc,
And jamoen from creek.


Be a strong team going into nationals. I reckon they could have a chance at winning in 2011

Has the guy said above Nick is gone so is Jim Wallace or the other Wallce guy too but surely you would not have been talking about him?

Don't forget Matt Strybos is also doing year 12 again next year, he would be at the top of the list.

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Has the guy said above Nick is gone so is Jim Wallace or the other Wallce guy too but surely you would not have been talking about him?

Don't forget Matt Strybos is also doing year 12 again next year, he would be at the top of the list.

the other wallace: Sam Wallace remains back to do his second year of year 12, and he is one of the best if not 'the' best defending seinor point guard. But definately agree with Matt Strybos. Potedntial leader of this group too

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Has the guy said above Nick is gone so is Jim Wallace or the other Wallce guy too but surely you would not have been talking about him?

Don't forget Matt Strybos is also doing year 12 again next year, he would be at the top of the list.

And Dave from IGS he dropped like 30 on stryboss. He will make it.

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First V
1. Jason Ralph
2. Jamaal Robateau
3. Ben Bergen
4. Michael Demertze
5. Cade Towers

Second V
6. Sam Wallace
7. Jacob Wilson/Jared Eustace
8. Beau Bergen
9. Matt Strybos
10. Jarrod Gamble

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First V
1. Jason Ralph
2. Jamaal Robateau
3. Ben Bergen
4. Michael Demertze
5. Cade Towers

Second V
6. Sam Wallace
7. Jacob Wilson/Jared Eustace
8. Beau Bergen
9. Matt Strybos
10. Jarrod Gamble

Weak spot is the 5 man. So could always rotate matt into the five. He is probs better inside than beau. Beaus the better defender/perimeter player.

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the other wallace: Sam Wallace remains back to do his second year of year 12, and he is one of the best if not 'the' best defending seinor point guard. But definately agree with Matt Strybos. Potedntial leader of this group too

Sam Wallace is 19 yo next year, how can he possibly play school ball? Please explain??

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First V
1. Jason Ralph
2. Jamaal Robateau
3. Ben Bergen
4. Michael Demertze
5. Cade Towers

Second V
6. Sam Wallace
7. Jacob Wilson/Jared Eustace
8. Beau Bergen
9. Matt Strybos
10. Jarrod Gamble

what about jake stalder from bbc he is better than jaryd eustace and jacob wilson

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Sam Wallace is 19 yo next year, how can he possibly play school ball? Please explain??

he is still elligible for met east and queensland schools teams, and end of year nationals. I think it may change for CBSQ though, someones gonna need to confirm this. I know there have been players who are up to 20 playing div 2, but does the max age change to 18 for div 1?

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First V
1. Jason Ralph
2. Jamaal Robateau
3. Ben Bergen
4. Michael Demertze
5. Cade Towers

Second V
6. Sam Wallace
7. Jacob Wilson/Jared Eustace
8. Beau Bergen
9. Matt Strybos
10. Jarrod Gamble

how bout this team:

Starters:
Sam Wallace
Jamaal Robateau
Matt Strybos
Ben Bergen
Cade Towers

Bench:
Justin Shultz
Jared Eustace
Beu Bergen
Michael Demertze
Matt Wook

This team here has an even spread of everything and are flexible. All the guards can run either spot, can all shoot, and are good drivers. Conversely, all the forwards are also flexible with the exception of Cade who is a big unit and probably wouldnt move off Center, however the others are athletic and all have different guard/forward skills.

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how bout this team:

Starters:
Sam Wallace
Jamaal Robateau
Matt Strybos
Ben Bergen
Cade Towers

Bench:
Justin Shultz
Jared Eustace
Beu Bergen
Michael Demertze
Matt Wook

This team here has an even spread of everything and are flexible. All the guards can run either spot, can all shoot, and are good drivers. Conversely, all the forwards are also flexible with the exception of Cade who is a big unit and probably wouldnt move off Center, however the others are athletic and all have different guard/forward skills.

I would have Steve Fogarty over Shultz he had an awesome schools tournament.

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I would have Steve Fogarty over Shultz he had an awesome schools tournament.

Neither were as good as ralph who definitely deserves a spot. Wook not as good as Gamble. Demertze to start in place of strybos. He was easily one of the strongest players in the competition.

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Neither were as good as ralph who definitely deserves a spot. Wook not as good as Gamble. Demertze to start in place of strybos. He was easily one of the strongest players in the competition.

Gamble probably is better than Wook. but you look at their play styles, the likes of the Bergens, Demertze and Stryboss, they are shooting forwards, so where does that leave Gamble? Wook on the other hand was one of the more athletic 3/4 men in the schools league and a better rebounder and slasher (& inside scoring 1on1.) i think in the event that a nationals team were picked that Wook would get used more than Gamble, even though Gamble is a better shooter and a more consistent scorer, only from the perspective that Stryboss and the Bergen twins play the same game style as him, but are ultimately better players.

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Who in their right mind would suggest Matt Wook or Jarrod Eustace? Come on, seriously?

I'm not saying they are bad players, but to even suggest them on the bench, let alone as starters...

There are even players in 2nd div this year who would perform better, like Prasser from Columbans and Luke Pittle from Southern Cross (or BBC next year), that's before you even look at the rest of 1st div - Steve Fogarty from BSHS (who I thought really missed his impact off the bench in the final), Nick Dickinson (if Churchie bother to play), Roger Morris & Dylan from JPC, Oscar from SLC, Hoani Walker-Tepania from St James, Ian Burns (wherever he is), Keenan from Runcorn, the list goes on - in my opinion any of these players would offer more than Wook or Eustace... Schultz is also a bit borderline as far as I'm concerned, though he did have a very solid school's tournament.

Also Gamble over Towers in a heartbeat, Cade is huge & solid inside but still too raw. Gamble is a stone-cold shooter with almost endless range, has a very effective inside game & is far less likely to put a team in foul trouble.

But then again, none of us are picking the team, so it will probably be the same names that always pop up...

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My question is why are all of these kids doing senior over 2 years? Are their external commitments that big that they need to spread year 12 or are players and schools just using it as an opportunity to play an extra year of school basketball. If that is the case then that is a very sad situation.

The only commitment I could see that would be worth doing senior over 2 years for many of these basketball kids would be the opportunity to train with an NBL team and unless they are on the Gold Coast this is not happening. QBL and SEABL programs are part time as are state commitments and many players have juggled these with 1 year of senior.

It just seems to me that the quality of athlete doing senior over 2 years now has dropped significantly from players looking to go NBL or Division 1 to guys simply wanting an extra year of high school ball and that is very sad. Hope I am wrong.

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My question is why are all of these kids doing senior over 2 years? Are their external commitments that big that they need to spread year 12 or are players and schools just using it as an opportunity to play an extra year of school basketball. If that is the case then that is a very sad situation.

The only commitment I could see that would be worth doing senior over 2 years for many of these basketball kids would be the opportunity to train with an NBL team and unless they are on the Gold Coast this is not happening. QBL and SEABL programs are part time as are state commitments and many players have juggled these with 1 year of senior.

It just seems to me that the quality of athlete doing senior over 2 years now has dropped significantly from players looking to go NBL or Division 1 to guys simply wanting an extra year of high school ball and that is very sad. Hope I am wrong.

Kids not wanting to grow up have these kids been selected for any state or aus teams been noticed by AIS . Cade Towers Josh Dersen and Tiana have been selected for Australia teams the future of basketball and only in year 10. There just hoping to be looked at still, just hope there grades are good if they haven't been reconized by now.

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Who in their right mind would suggest Matt Wook or Jarrod Eustace? Come on, seriously?

I'm not saying they are bad players, but to even suggest them on the bench, let alone as starters...

There are even players in 2nd div this year who would perform better, like Prasser from Columbans and Luke Pittle from Southern Cross (or BBC next year), that's before you even look at the rest of 1st div - Steve Fogarty from BSHS (who I thought really missed his impact off the bench in the final), Nick Dickinson (if Churchie bother to play), Roger Morris & Dylan from JPC, Oscar from SLC, Hoani Walker-Tepania from St James, Ian Burns (wherever he is), Keenan from Runcorn, the list goes on - in my opinion any of these players would offer more than Wook or Eustace... Schultz is also a bit borderline as far as I'm concerned, though he did have a very solid school's tournament.

Also Gamble over Towers in a heartbeat, Cade is huge & solid inside but still too raw. Gamble is a stone-cold shooter with almost endless range, has a very effective inside game & is far less likely to put a team in foul trouble.

But then again, none of us are picking the team, so it will probably be the same names that always pop up...

Just to let u no cade made the australian team so he can't be to bad

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Just to let u no cade made the australian team so he can't be to bad

what aus team did cade make? he went to a camp...so yes not too bad, but long way off making a team.

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Gamble probably is better than Wook. but you look at their play styles, the likes of the Bergens, Demertze and Stryboss, they are shooting forwards, so where does that leave Gamble? Wook on the other hand was one of the more athletic 3/4 men in the schools league and a better rebounder and slasher (& inside scoring 1on1.) i think in the event that a nationals team were picked that Wook would get used more than Gamble, even though Gamble is a better shooter and a more consistent scorer, only from the perspective that Stryboss and the Bergen twins play the same game style as him, but are ultimately better players.

BBC boys are the most athletic and the best slashers in the league so why would they put wook in there? Everytime he went one on one with them in their game he got it thrown back at him. Need Gamble to rebound and pass in the post.

Who in their right mind would suggest Matt Wook or Jarrod Eustace? Come on, seriously?

I'm not saying they are bad players, but to even suggest them on the bench, let alone as starters...

There are even players in 2nd div this year who would perform better, like Prasser from Columbans and Luke Pittle from Southern Cross (or BBC next year), that's before you even look at the rest of 1st div - Steve Fogarty from BSHS (who I thought really missed his impact off the bench in the final), Nick Dickinson (if Churchie bother to play), Roger Morris & Dylan from JPC, Oscar from SLC, Hoani Walker-Tepania from St James, Ian Burns (wherever he is), Keenan from Runcorn, the list goes on - in my opinion any of these players would offer more than Wook or Eustace... Schultz is also a bit borderline as far as I'm concerned, though he did have a very solid school's tournament.

Also Gamble over Towers in a heartbeat, Cade is huge & solid inside but still too raw. Gamble is a stone-cold shooter with almost endless range, has a very effective inside game & is far less likely to put a team in foul trouble.

But then again, none of us are picking the team, so it will probably be the same names that always pop up...


Agree with some of what you said. Dont agree with Prasser, Luke Pittle, Steve Fogarty, Nick Dickinson, Roger Morris & Dylan, Hoani Walker-Tepania and especially not Keenan from Runcorn.

Oscar Lin and Ian Burns would make good additions in the place of eustace. Luke Pittle would be the next choice.

Also look at that team and tell me it needs another scorer/shooter haha. Gamble will stay on the bench and come off to rebound and post up when Cade is in foul trouble.

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My question is why are all of these kids doing senior over 2 years? Are their external commitments that big that they need to spread year 12 or are players and schools just using it as an opportunity to play an extra year of school basketball. If that is the case then that is a very sad situation.

The only commitment I could see that would be worth doing senior over 2 years for many of these basketball kids would be the opportunity to train with an NBL team and unless they are on the Gold Coast this is not happening. QBL and SEABL programs are part time as are state commitments and many players have juggled these with 1 year of senior.

It just seems to me that the quality of athlete doing senior over 2 years now has dropped significantly from players looking to go NBL or Division 1 to guys simply wanting an extra year of high school ball and that is very sad. Hope I am wrong.


My understanding is there are 2 primary reasons whys athletes choose to do this and many secondary reasons.

It is not just Basketballers doing year 12 over 2 years or as some sports see it, doing years 11/12 over 3 years.

I know many swimmers and other athletes who have chosen to balance the passion for their sport (or ambition) and their academic commitments by extending their time at school by an extra year.

This enables an athlete to better balance both Sport wise and Academically.

Example:
• individual skills development,
• team training schedules, (those in team sports often participate in more than one team (eg. School, Club, District/Representative, State and/or Nationals),
• physical/strength development,
• etc...

and they have a reduced academic schedule (eg. 3 subject each year rather than 6 in one year) The benefits achieved from this can be;

• quality study time (fewer subjects each year),
• quality time to complete assignment - (fewer subjects each year),
• better able to balance other school commitments.

A primary aim is to achieve a higher education (OB score) than what is most likely achievable if trying to satisfy all sporting and educational obligations in this final year of school.

So, it’s not all about playing basketball, but balancing the passion of a Sport and reducing any compromise on their education.


One other thing... Most Queensland student’s graduate secondary school aged 17yr whereas in most if not all other Australia States, students graduate aged 18. This is also typical overseas. So, many QLD Students finish their schooling one year younger - physically and mentally...

Food for thought.

I hope this answers you question.

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Everything you say is true and yes most know exactly what the direct benefits are for those kids who chose to do it. What I am saying is that many of the players currently doing it over the extra year are not of the calibre to have such commitments that need to be balanced.
Some of these kids are not in state programs or even ABA players so pretty much are balancing school ball and rep ball (not even this in their final year). If the decision is purely academically driven then that provides merit though lets face reality, if these kids were so poor academically that they needed the extra year then why are they allowed to represent their school in the first place?
I certainly would not question the merit of a top level junior athlete doing 11 and 12 over 3 years to balance things out if they have commitments at many levels, which I beleive was the original intent of such situations. This however is not the case for many of the athletes being mentioned through this site only a minority - I cannot comment in regards to other sports but suspect a similar trend.

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Everything you say is true and yes most know exactly what the direct benefits are for those kids who chose to do it. What I am saying is that many of the players currently doing it over the extra year are not of the calibre to have such commitments that need to be balanced.
Some of these kids are not in state programs or even ABA players so pretty much are balancing school ball and rep ball (not even this in their final year). If the decision is purely academically driven then that provides merit though lets face reality, if these kids were so poor academically that they needed the extra year then why are they allowed to represent their school in the first place?
I certainly would not question the merit of a top level junior athlete doing 11 and 12 over 3 years to balance things out if they have commitments at many levels, which I beleive was the original intent of such situations. This however is not the case for many of the athletes being mentioned through this site only a minority - I cannot comment in regards to other sports but suspect a similar trend.

Everyone should just face the facts
1. The kids are chasing championships
2. The schools are chasing championships / making their school more attractive to full paying customers
3. If the schools are handing out half scholarships & the kids do 3 instead of 2 years the scholl gets 1.5 of money instead of 1 year.

What is the age limit for championship schools?

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what aus team did cade make? he went to a camp...so yes not too bad, but long way off making a team.

under 17 australian team thats going to new caledonia next month

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next years allschools state team should be pretty exciting.
Chia and cade from state hi,
bergens and eustace from bbi,
wallace and wook from jpc,
And jamoen from creek.


Be a strong team going into nationals. I reckon they could have a chance at winning in 2011

what is all schools state team, never heared of it?

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Screw next year I want to hear about this years tournament
Best Dunk
Best Block
Best play
Funniest play
worst play
best game
worst game
coolest team
coolest player
coolest coach

and any others worth mentioning

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Screw next year I want to hear about this years tournament
Best Dunk
Best Block
Best play
Funniest play
worst play
best game
worst game
coolest team
coolest player
coolest coach

and any others worth mentioning

it's school basketball... none of the above ever happens

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the best dunk probs go to sam cabrera from mountain creek over two BBC guys was ridiculous

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St James (I think thats the name) Had a dunkfest on Mountain Creek Two handed put back in traffic
alley oops to a guard and a few others plus some awsome blocks. That was my favourite game both teams running and lots of action.
Seth had a real nice two hander off a steal in the same game that sam got his
Bris States win over JPC was a great game as was Mt Cks quarter and semi with huge wins over top teams

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the best dunk probs go to sam cabrera from mountain creek over two BBC guys was ridiculous

Or to one of the Bergens that got a two handed alley to start the game aganst St Pats

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Rupa Durr pbc - most dunks in tourny plus a 360 breakaway one hander v hillcrest

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Rupa Durr pbc - most dunks in tourny plus a 360 breakaway one hander v hillcrest

Come on, it's Hillcrest.

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best block would have to be that engels kid from cent heights pinning a dunk attempt by a bergen almost above the rim

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First V
1. Jason Ralph
2. Jamaal Robateau
3. Ben Bergen
4. Michael Demertze
5. Cade Towers

Second V
6. Sam Wallace
7. Jacob Wilson/Jared Eustace
8. Beau Bergen
9. Matt Strybos
10. Jarrod Gamble

Jamaal is not good.

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Rupa Durr pbc - most dunks in tourny plus a 360 breakaway one hander v hillcrest

sick name tho....

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Jamaal is not good.

wasn't he in the top 10 scorers?

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Jamaal is not good.

Yea you are right. He isn't that good. Not close to top players like Nick Chia.

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Yea you are right. He isn't that good. Not close to top players like Nick Chia.

He is much stronger on offence than Chia, not as good on defence though. Depending on what a selector was looking for I wouldn't be surprised if he was taken over Chia

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He is much stronger on offence than Chia, not as good on defence though. Depending on what a selector was looking for I wouldn't be surprised if he was taken over Chia

Chia is just an average player, with a good basketball IQ.

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Jamaal is not good.

jealous?

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jealous?

definately not jealous.

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He was one of the leading scorers at champion schools as a year 11 and played a starting role on the best team he must be pretty good or you just have exceptionally high standards.
He is definitely the best year eleven player this year in the state

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He was one of the leading scorers at champion schools as a year 11 and played a starting role on the best team he must be pretty good or you just have exceptionally high standards.
He is definitely the best year eleven player this year in the state

Jamal is good and if he continues to woirk hard he should be a lock for the state team this year in the real BBall.

However to say he is the best year 11 kid in the state is a stretch. Probably the best player credential wise is Carins player Michael Demertize, he is tuff and can flat out play. Jarrod Gamble has made 2 state teams in a row, so he would have to be considered.

Jamal is up there but he is not "definately" the best kid in yr 11 in the state.

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Good points I was referring to form at the champion schools tournament where his numbers and performance do certainly support the argument as opposed to past performances

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Nick Chia finishes year 12 this year

Nick Chia's hot haha

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Nick Chia's hot haha

No more faggs on this page thanks, are you from JPC btw???

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No more faggs on this page thanks, are you from JPC btw???

lol no hes probably from BBC

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Any regional team lists for u18 state titles